IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 10-8-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 10-8-19
Chattels Sporadic demonstrations in Baghdad and the atmosphere of tension over the Iraqi capital
Huner Ahmed
spankie maybe riots or the pm removed will help- lol
Chattels David M. Witty @DavidMWitty1 Scattered protests in Baghdad, especially Sadr City. Journalist sees security forces firing on protesters as they try to move to Tahriir Square. Protester says snipers on roofs in Sadr City fire on protests.
chattels Video: Abdul Mahdi pledges to bring those who attacked the demonstrators to justice Special Sumerian 2019-10-07 |
chattels Babylon 2019/10/07 12:02:17 The security media cell announced on Monday the arrest of those involved in firing at demonstrators.
spankie just what happened to maliki for the genocide and all the chaos he caused - nada
chattels Joel Wing @JoelWing2 Overall looks like govt repression has all but silenced the protest movement for now except for Sadr City https://twitter.com/JoelWing2
IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 10-8-19
Chattels Sporadic demonstrations in Baghdad and the atmosphere of tension over the Iraqi capital
https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/middleeast/iraq/0710201915 Huner Ahmed
spankie maybe riots or the pm removed will help- lol
Chattels David M. Witty @DavidMWitty1 Scattered protests in Baghdad, especially Sadr City. Journalist sees security forces firing on protesters as they try to move to Tahriir Square. Protester says snipers on roofs in Sadr City fire on protests. https://twitter.com/DavidMWitty1?lang=en
chattels Video: Abdul Mahdi pledges to bring those who attacked the demonstrators to justice Special Sumerian 2019-10-07 | LINK
chattels Babylon 2019/10/07 12:02:17 The security media cell announced on Monday the arrest of those involved in firing at demonstrators. LINK
spankie just what happened to maliki for the genocide and all the chaos he caused - nada
chattels Joel Wing @JoelWing2 Overall looks like govt repression has all but silenced the protest movement for now except for Sadr City https://twitter.com/JoelWing2
chattels The House of Representatives will discuss the demands of the demonstrators tomorrow
Monday 07 October 17:45 2019 Baghdad / Nina / The Presidency of the Council of Representatives decided to allocate a session on Tuesday to discuss the demands of the demonstrators and find solutions to them. https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=791221
xyz Tebow Frank: The protesters gave them 2 weeks…...the deadline is the 15th...we're looking at the 2nd week right now..
There is a possibility that the Monetary Reform will soon dominate more than the protesting in the streets…There is a possibility we will see what we are looking for somewhere around Sat.or Sun.…….
3 days ago the CBI told WalkingStick’s firm with 6 banks that on the 14th of Oct…..they are to have the new currency (LD’s) .... To be followed by FILS..(coins)
chattels Legal measures to be taken against killers of protesters: Iraq judiciary Mohammed Rwanduzy
https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/071020191
chattels Government did not order ‘crime’ of protester killings: Iraq President
https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/071020192
Mohammed Rwanduzy7 Oct 19, 11:12 PMchattelsThe President announced steps to be implemented in the short term, including the “opening of a judicial investigation” into the violence, as announced earlier today by Iraq’s Supreme Judicial Council.
“Special authorities, without a doubt, have to hold those responsible for spilling Iraqi blood responsible.”
The President also voiced support for a suggestion by Ayatollah Sistani, the highest Shiite religious authority of Iraq, for forming a committee composed of independent, qualified Iraqis to engage with protesters to present a “roadmap” for reform.
As a third step, the President suggested discussions between Iraq’s political blocs to “form a national parliamentary bloc” to support and oversee reform, the fight against corruption, and the provision of services.
To tackle state corruption – one of the main sources of protester grievance – Salih suggested “activating the role” of integrity courts, supporting their independence and taking corruption cases to them with no “immunity” for anyone.
chattels Another committee ?
chattels Iraqi human rights commission condemns use of deadly force in protests
https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/08102019
chattels Iraq protests exacerbate testing times for PM Abdul-Mahdi
https://www.rudaw.net/english/opinion/08102019
chattels Eight years into the toppling of Saddam Hussein, the people of Iraq started to wage demonstrations simultaneous to those of several other Arab countries under the influence of the wave of the Arab Spring. They protested a lack of basic services, unemployment, injustice and corruption.
The Iraqi government, at the time under the reign of Nouri al-Maliki, was given a 100-day ultimatum by Muqtada al-Sadr to carry out reform. Many other hundred-day spells have passed since then, yet nothing has been done and the situation continues to worsen.
chattels The people of Iraq are fed up, and can no longer bear most of the brunt of the worsening economic conditions that have haunted them. According to the International Transparency Index, Iraq is ranked the 12th most corrupt of 180 countries. We can therefore label Iraq as a failed state.
chattels Undoubtedly, ongoing protests will become a golden opportunity for any side wishing to see the collapse of Abdul-Mahdi's government and replace him. It is not improbable that if protests continue, Mahdi will resign, as he is known as a leader whose resignation is always on the table and not as one ready to remain in a position where he becomes worthless. In the past, he withdrew from the posts of vice president of Iraq and oil minister.
chattels ' In the past, he withdrew from the posts of vice president of Iraq and oil minister."
chattels i DO NOT THINK THAT HE WANTED THE JOB UNDER ALL OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES TO BEGIN WITH.
chattels Sorry, cap lock, too lazy to retype.
chattels The " failed state " phraseology is a common one for the Kurdish independence minded. While I think that Rudaw is as transparent and unvarnished a news source as may be available in Iraq, it is arguably biased toward the Kurds.
chattels At the same time, there is reason to think that these may be the dying days of this Iraqi state.
chattels One guru now has the object of the protests to be an increase in the value of the dinar. I would like to see that in black and white with a link, but I suspect that it is the stale and tired failed narrative of " RV anytime and everyday ".
chattels I have confirmation and a link for the " report " that seven ministers tendered their resignations to Mahdi.
chattels Report US Amb to Iraq thought PM Abdul Mahdi would resign US military disagreed With protests dying down pressure on PM might lesson as well http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/10/govt-repression-working-against-iraqs.html …
chattels Joel Wing @JoelWing2
Iraq might have escaped revolutionary situation via repression but still not addressed causes What does it mean for Iraqi democracy that govt was willing to gun down so many people & politicians were so incapable in face of crisis? https://twitter.com/JoelWing2
chattels A " blast from the past ". URGENT: 7 year prison sentence given to Central Bank head, Sinan al-Shabibi
by Amre Sarhan Sep 4, 2014, https://www.iraqinews.com/features/urgent-7-year-prison-sentence-given-central-bank-head-sinan-al-shabibi/
chattels " The source told IraqiNews that the Judiciary in Iraq has issued a ruling against the former governor of the Iraqi Central Bank today on Thursday, based on the case filed about his administration.
Iraqi High Judiciary Council declared on 19 Oct 2012 that an arrest warrant against the Central Bank governor Sinan al-Shabibi was issued on charges of corruption during his administration of the bank, whilst Shabibi was in Tokyo attending an annual world conference."
chattels Where were you on 19 Oct 2012 ?
chattels Hard to believe that we are approaching the seventh anniversary of the sudden and surprising end to Shabbibi's governership at the Central Bank, eh ?
chattels We are also approaching the fifth year of the following. Iraqi Dinar revaluation postponed by Central Bank for 5 years says MP Noura al-Bajari, by Amre Sarhan, Oct 29, 2014, https://www.iraqinews.com/features/iraqi-dinars-project-postponed-5-years-says-central-bank/
chattels The reason, ............ al-Bajari said, “The policy to delete zeros from the Iraqi currency is ready to be executed by the Central Bank, however, its implementation will be delayed by 5 years on the basis of the extreme security and political situation of the country.”
chattels " ............. delayed by 5 years on the basis of the extreme security and political situation of the country.”
chattels What is the current security and political situation in the country ?
chattels It was reported in February of 2013 that “The Iraqi Government thinks that changing the dinar needs suitable and stable circumstances,” https://www.iraqinews.com/business-iraqi-dinar/iraqi-cabinet-rules-out-replacing-or-omitting-zeros-from-iraqi-currency/
chattels The purpose, or definition, of deleting the zeroes is to reduce the currency in circulation we were told by Majida al-Timimi, member of the Parliamentary Finance Committee ( She is now the Chairperson I believe. ) in 2012. https://www.iraqinews.com/business-iraqi-dinar/finance-committee-ground-not-suitable-to-delete-zeros-from-iraqi-currency/
chattels I decried yesterday the guru notion that deleting the zeroes / increasing the value of the dinar is a panacea for Iraq's economic crisis. See
chattels The Central Bank of Iraq, earlier, announced that cancelling the zeros is within a plan to develop monetary policies in the country.
One of the difficulties facing is Iraq is withdrawing 30 trillion Iraqi dinars ( It is now more.) from Iraq’s market at the present time and to replacing it with new currency.
Earlier, the ministry of finance ruled out the idea of cancelling the zeros in 2013 because the federal budget was based on the current currency. https://www.iraqinews.com/business-iraqi-dinar/iraqi-dinar-3-zeros-canceled-by-central-bank-of-iraq-cbi/
chattels Iraqi government seems powerless against protesters even as 'unknown' snipers take toll Ali Mamouri October 8, 2019
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-pmu-iran-us.html#ixzz61lM9hwYH
chattels Doug_W Been walking down memory lane with the dinar this morning.
chattels Thousands of young people, mostly teenagers, kept up demonstrations for the seventh day in a row. Nothing — not government promises, military threats, religious advice nor anything else — has been able to convince them to return home yet.
They have nothing to lose. They are jobless, feel humiliated due to Iraq’s weak position in the region, despair about the political system and have little hope for the future.
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-pmu-iran-us.html#ixzz61lMTDNRw
Chattels Unsurprisingly, not only Americans but also Iranians supported Abdul Mahdi against the unarmed protesters. Iran and the United States have been cooperating in forming and supporting almost all of the Iraqi governments after 2003.
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-pmu-iran-us.html#ixzz61lMjcuPG
chattels “PMU factions are ready to intervene to prevent any coup or insurgency in Iraq, should the government request,” Fayadh added.
The PMU factions are already in the streets taking part in confronting the protesters.
Continuation of the protests will likely lead the prime minister and his government to rely on the PMU more than ever, which would allow the PMU to further increase its influence in the Iraqi government.
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-pmu-iran-us.html#ixzz61lN6mdnY
chattels Parliament officially votes to freeze the work of provincial councils
Tuesday 08 October 14:56 2019 | BAGHDAD / NINA / The House of Representatives officially voted to freeze the work of the provincial councils.
It also voted on the recommendations of the parliamentary committee charged with considering the demands of the demonstrators https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=791367
chattels It appears that the Iraqi Parliament managed to obtain a quorum for today's business.
Zig "chattels" "Where were you on 19 Oct 2012?"...................I was most likely in some forum/chat room hearing that we were close to being rich..... :yes:
chattels Zig A similar pedigree here and a continuing hope against all better judgment and prior experience.
chattels On the ground with Sadr City protesters, wearied and enraged
https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/081020191
Doug_W Silver:$17.65
chattels And that's the way that it is, and was, from the news that I read out of Iraq on this Tuesday, October 8, 2019. Have a fine day all.
Young_SC The opening of the Green Zone after the Stability LINK
Doug_W Silver:$17.83
Chocolatiere chattels Thank you for your time 😃 and all the reports .. Iraq 's withdrawal of the currency from the market place and replacing it with a new currency doesn't sound good 😖 .. hopefully , hopefully the next few weeks things may turn around .. the reason those countries do better with a dictator is that they can't seem to be able to govern themselves
Dave find it interesting given the situation ...they can only muster 212 out of 364 to parliament
Dave at least Quorum.....
Dave protesters should focus on CBI.....and push the button......???????
Dave Right Young-SC?
Young_SC Dave GOI is responsible for most of what they ask for. Cbi is in charge of the financial being of things
Young_SC GOI=Corruption
Young_SC I agree with the protesting against the GOI
Dave need a coup......
Dave more yadda yadda from GOI
Dave A warning shot....between the eyes of Maliki......could speed things up?
Dave 9 more days...as per protesters demands for arrest warrants still in effect?
IQD CALLS Chat Monday Night 10-7-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Monday Night 10-7-19
Portmagaland The Four October Surprises Dave Hodges you tube video
Portmagaland https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6hZT2dSaEj8
Doug_W Portmagaland why do U listen to that JUNK?
Portmagaland Doug_W If you listen to CNN or any MSM, I have the same question for you?
Doug_W I do NOT
Portmagaland Doug_W Ok, that's good, I'm just searching for the truth.
Zig Heard from Vic of "The Gatekeepers"....he may come into chat to say hello.....also may be doing another call soon.....
Zig Vic was part of "The IQD Team" before he left to start "Gatekeepers"
Xyz US diplomat: Iraqi PM's resignation 'inevitable' amid deadly protests
In the wake of escalating civil unrest and a wave of violent protests across Iraq, the American ambassador to the country has warned that the resignation of the prime minister may be imminent.
IQD CALLS Chat Monday Night 10-7-19
Portmagaland The Four October Surprises Dave Hodges you tube video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6hZT2dSaEj8
Doug_W Portmagaland why do U listen to that JUNK?
Portmagaland Doug_W If you listen to CNN or any MSM, I have the same question for you?
Doug_W I do NOT
Portmagaland Doug_W Ok, that's good, I'm just searching for the truth.
Zig Heard from Vic of "The Gatekeepers"....he may come into chat to say hello.....also may be doing another call soon.....
Zig Vic was part of "The IQD Team" before he left to start "Gatekeepers"
Wilder https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Turkey-attacks-Kurds-SDF-in-Iraq-Syria-as-US-withdraws-604010
Xyz US diplomat: Iraqi PM's resignation 'inevitable' amid deadly protests
In the wake of escalating civil unrest and a wave of violent protests across Iraq, the American ambassador to the country has warned that the resignation of the prime minister may be imminent.
xyz The cancellation of a mutual visit between the delegations of the region and Baghdad because of the demonstrations https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ikhnews.com%2Findex.php%3Fpage%3Darticle%26id%3D199938
Young_SC 10-6-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni They've been using wheelbarrows for years what's the difference if they have to use them a few more? They're either going to do one of two things they're either going to Lop first to get to 1 to $1 exchange rate reducing the money supply from trillions to billions.
And then float the currency allowing it to rise. Or they're going to just float it from the beginning and allowed to gradually increase over time allowing them to reduce the money supply we don't know that answer yet but it's not going to RV
Young_SC Lmao lol LOP the currency to get to 1 to 1
Young_SC Lolol lol
Young_SC Pure rubbish that makes no sense
Young_SC Am i reading that correctly?
chattels Sporadic demonstrations in Baghdad and the atmosphere of tension over the Iraqi capital 19 minutes ago https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/middleeast/iraq/0710201915
Huner Ahmed
spankie maybe riots or the pm removed will help- lol
chattels David M. Witty @DavidMWitty1
Scattered protests in Baghdad, especially Sadr City. Journalist sees security forces firing on protesters as they try to move to Tahriir Square. Protester says snipers on roofs in Sadr City fire on protests. https://twitter.com/DavidMWitty1?lang=en
chattels Video: Abdul Mahdi pledges to bring those who attacked the demonstrators to justice Special Sumerian
2019-10-07 | LINK
chattels Babylon 2019/10/07 12:02:17
The security media cell announced on Monday the arrest of those involved in firing at demonstrators. LINK
spankie just what happened to maliki for the genocide and all the chaos he caused - nada
chattels Joel Wing @JoelWing2
Overall looks like govt repression has all but silenced the protest movement for now except for Sadr City https://twitter.com/JoelWing2
chattels The House of Representatives will discuss the demands of the demonstrators tomorrow
Monday 07 October 17:45 2019 Baghdad / Nina / The Presidency of the Council of Representatives decided to allocate a session on Tuesday to discuss the demands of the demonstrators and find solutions to them. https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=791221
xyz Tebow Frank: The protesters gave them 2 weeks…...the deadline is the 15th...we're looking at the 2nd week right now..
There is a possibility that the Monetary Reform will soon dominate more than the protesting in the streets…There is a possibility we will see what we are looking for somewhere around Sat.or Sun.…….
3 days ago the CBI told WalkingStick’s firm with 6 banks that on the 14th of Oct…..they are to have the new currency (LD’s) .... To be followed by FILS..(coins)
chattels Legal measures to be taken against killers of protesters: Iraq judiciary
1 hour ago https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/071020191
Mohammed Rwanduzy
chattels Government did not order ‘crime’ of protester killings: Iraq President
19 minutes ago | https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/071020192
Mohammed Rwanduzy
chattels The President announced steps to be implemented in the short term, including the “opening of a judicial investigation” into the violence, as announced earlier today by Iraq’s Supreme Judicial Council.
“Special authorities, without a doubt, have to hold those responsible for spilling Iraqi blood responsible.”
The President also voiced support for a suggestion by Ayatollah Sistani, the highest Shiite religious authority of Iraq, for forming a committee composed of independent, qualified Iraqis to engage with protesters to present a “roadmap” for reform.
As a third step, the President suggested discussions between Iraq’s political blocs to “form a national parliamentary bloc” to support and oversee reform, the fight against corruption, and the provision of services.
To tackle state corruption – one of the main sources of protester grievance – Salih suggested “activating the role” of integrity courts, supporting their independence and taking corruption cases to them with no “immunity” for anyone.
chattels Another committee ?
IQD CALLS Chat Early Monday 10-7-19
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Chattels Sunday, October 6, 2019 Govt Violence Reducing Number Of Protests In Iraq
chattels When the protests originally began on October 1 they occurred across every southern province. That is shrinking in the face of the all the lie fire, dead, and wounded.
That showed that the government’s violent tactics were working somewhat. Still, places like Nasiriya and Diwaniya appear to be out of control once people gather. Basra on the other hand, appears to be relatively subdued with the security forces having learned their lessons from last year.
It also shows that all the gunfire is unnecessary if the police had been more pro-active and arrested crowds before they could even march on places like Tahrir Square or the government buildings. This is a lesson being missed by Baghdad.
chattels Officials continued to be ineffective in their responses. Speaker of Parliament Mohammed Halbusi yesterday invited activists to meet with him and go over their demands. That happened October 5, but then people in the streets said whoever met with the speaker did not represent them.
Parliament was also supposed to have an emergency session, but there was no quorum due to the boycott of the Sairoon bloc led by Moqtada al-Sadr.
The weakness of the Abdul Mahdi administration from the start was that he had no party behind him, but rather was elected due to a deal between two rival factions Sadr on one side, and Badr’s Haid Amiri on the other. Parliament would do nothing if it met as a result.
The prime minister has been feckless during his entire time in office as well, and his weak speech saying he couldn’t do anything and that it was the people’s fault for getting killed just showed that he will do nothing substantive about the protests politically and rely upon the police instead in the hopes to put them down.
This is a very dangerous move as it is pushing many people towards revolution and wanting the entire elite to be brushed aside.
IQD CALLS Chat Early Monday 10-7-19
Chattels Sunday, October 6, 2019 Govt Violence Reducing Number Of Protests In Iraq http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/10/govt-violence-reducing-number-of.html
chattels When the protests originally began on October 1 they occurred across every southern province. That is shrinking in the face of the all the lie fire, dead, and wounded.
That showed that the government’s violent tactics were working somewhat. Still, places like Nasiriya and Diwaniya appear to be out of control once people gather. Basra on the other hand, appears to be relatively subdued with the security forces having learned their lessons from last year.
It also shows that all the gunfire is unnecessary if the police had been more pro-active and arrested crowds before they could even march on places like Tahrir Square or the government buildings. This is a lesson being missed by Baghdad.
chattels Officials continued to be ineffective in their responses. Speaker of Parliament Mohammed Halbusi yesterday invited activists to meet with him and go over their demands. That happened October 5, but then people in the streets said whoever met with the speaker did not represent them.
Parliament was also supposed to have an emergency session, but there was no quorum due to the boycott of the Sairoon bloc led by Moqtada al-Sadr.
The weakness of the Abdul Mahdi administration from the start was that he had no party behind him, but rather was elected due to a deal between two rival factions Sadr on one side, and Badr’s Haid Amiri on the other. Parliament would do nothing if it met as a result.
The prime minister has been feckless during his entire time in office as well, and his weak speech saying he couldn’t do anything and that it was the people’s fault for getting killed just showed that he will do nothing substantive about the protests politically and rely upon the police instead in the hopes to put them down.
This is a very dangerous move as it is pushing many people towards revolution and wanting the entire elite to be brushed aside.
chattels It appears that governance in Iraq may require an authoritarian figure. Likely a military one. I hope they get a " good " one.
chattels The only thing happening at banks in Iraq this month is that protestors are burning them.
Doug_W as do I chattels
chattels The Guru notion that an increase in the exchange rate will be a panacea for Iraq's problems is as misguided now as when I first heard them advance such a theory years ago and at various troubled times since then. It is a foolish notion, IMO.
chattels A good economy is a reflection of good governance and not a cure for what ails the government.
Doug_W and a strong economy too
Doug_W ooops I mis read your last
chattels We are hearing again that the next budget is the watershed occurrence for our liquidity event. How many times has one heard that bovine scatology ?
chattels Iraq needs a functional government rather than a " completed " government.
chattels I read above where xyz posted an article about the resignation of cabinet ministers, but the link was bad for me. Anybody seen/read such an article ?
chattels It is a " sourced " article so it may not be reliable, but I cannot locate it anywhere else.
chattels larrykn ?
chattels Iraq military admits ‘excessive force’ used in deadly protests https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/07102019
larrykn seems to me as long as they protest we sit
chattels So, the mystery sniper does not explain the government's violent response.
chattels larrykn larrykn larrykn Good Morning
larrykn they better watch out the people will take over the govenment if they keep this up
chattels “Excessive force outside the rules of engagement was used and we have begun to hold accountable those commanding officers who carried out these wrong acts,” the military said.
chattels larrykn Not likely the " people ", but the military.
larrykn once you start killing your own people nothing good will ever come out good for the country
larrykn I think most of the people have their own weapons. this could get nasty
chattels " On Monday, Abdul-Mahdi said he discussed the recent events and reform plans in a phone call with US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, without providing further details.
And Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov landed in Baghdad to meet top officials."
chattels Plans to reform and committees to study and prepare may not be enough this time.
chattels People need relief and that requires action.
chattels Unfortunately Sadr has disabled an already dysfunctional Parliament with the boycott of his Sairoon Bloc, so Mahdi is left to his own limited executive powers to act.
chattels There are matters in Iraq unfolding before our very eyes, as the Gurus say, but it does not appear to be a substantial increase in the value of the dinar.
chattels And that's the way that it is from the news that I read out of Iraq on this Monday, October 7, 2019. Have a fine day all.
Young_SC chattels The substantial increase from the dinar has to mentioned to the citizens from the CBI Chattels. Technically that is not the GOI job to do so
Young_SC Doug_W GOOOOOOD MORNING SWEEEET AMERICA HOME OF THE FREE
Doug_W Canada is free too
Andrewetoldthem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuvOQ0YoEJs
This clown turn off its comment because only he get to spread his lies but nobody could say anything HAHAHAHAHAHAHA CURRENCY365 A JOKe
Andrewetoldthem I Wonder what happened to their impeachment inquiry its easy for them to say it and scream about it but they cant get it done IT seems like Abadi maliki with an I its on the same track and Iran
#* you demsThe perfect plans WELL KEEP FIGHTING FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN !!! Then..............
Andrewetoldthem Even the legit way wasnt easy Thinking you find a way out your people would of been proud of you they prefer to hate on youits ok we finally going to be able to play offense the dems chain its breaking nn when it do break Abadi Maliki with an i And Iran will finally realize the only way out this situation its to either A big win for every body or they loose kuz we aint going no where but they are soon
BNL NEWS@BreakingNLive JUST IN: Rep. Debbie Dingell, a Democrat, revealed that she was pressured to support impeachment against President Trump. She was targeted by Tom Steyer and MoveOn.
Andrewetoldthem https://www.foxnews.com/media/democrat-dingell-impeachment-pressure
Andrewetoldthem Doug_W GOOD MORNING WE GOT THIS WE FINALLY GOING TO BE ABLEE TO PLAY OFFENSE
Andrewetoldthem WE ALREADY IN PHASE 4 IRAQ ITS ALREADY international !!!!
JUST the revalued left be4 they fully formed internationally and thats why ABDUL MAHDI pushing hard for parliament to give him the power to finish its cabinet and sworn in the education ministry for the C.B.I CENTRAL BANK OF IRAQ TO FINALLY HAVE THEIR COUNTRY REVALUED AND REINSTATED NN THEIR MONEY
IDK wHY THEY STILL resisting instead of winning we aint going no where they either get it better for every 1 or make it worse on their self
Andrewetoldthem Doug_W its because of the dems the abadi maliki iran and their believers thats why we cant revalued the dems fell they all do bkuz the dems make them believe they could beat trump thats why they havent gave up
Clay Andrewetoldthem international?
Andrewetoldthem Clay yes with the 5 year nasdaq contract thats when they went international thats why with the riot every news was talking about it
Clay Andrewetoldthem never seen where they have gone international
Portmagaland Andrewetoldthem I hope you're correct. Just saw GE is freezing 20,000 pensions and GE is going to do 5 billion in pension buyouts on 7 billion of liability. It's going to get real scary here as well. 900,000 people in India could not get their cash, as well as, some ATMs in Honk Kong not having cash as well. Then all this rioting in Iraq. The world is in meltdown mode. Prayers.
Andrewetoldthem Clay https://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/nasdaq-and-the-iraq-stock-exchange-sign-new-market-technology-agreement-2019-07-19-0
Portmagaland Back to work
Andrewetoldthem Portmagaland no hong kong protest started because of a mask ban dont believe the lies
Andrewetoldthem https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/protesters-charged-first-use-hong-kong-s-new-mask-ban-n1063111
Andrewetoldthem Iraqi PM Demands Parliamentary Support to Reshuffle Cabinet After Deadly Unrest
By Reuters
Andrewetoldthem https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2019/10/03/world/middleeast/03reuters-iraqi-protests-government.html
Andrewetoldthem Doug_W no problem thats what family do we look out for each other hiron sharpen hiron
Crazycrypto Seems Mahdi is already offering a reform package tuesday
Doug_W in the cumming days
Crazycrypto dude is in full panic mode
Clay lol coming days
Baxter S O O N .............
Clay scarey if true
Wilder Clay supposively U.N. and Fema on alert as well.
Clay omg this is getting bad
Clay Dems want to take over like a dictator
Wilder Fast forward this video to 21 00. https://youtu.be/vooB8spORwc . paul Begley from last night
Wilder The plot thickens. Trump throws Rick Perry under the bus involved with the Ukraine deal. Hillary to announce that she is going to run again.
Doug_W what a freak show
Doug_W xyz Yes I agree Z
Portmagaland Good afternoon guys, I've been paying attention to all the chatter about Marines, U.N. and Fema being activated.
Portmagaland Take what I am about to say with a grain of salt
Portmagaland The Trump activatingvthe marines story is not going away, it's intensifying as it is apparently a counter move. Before Obama left office and after Trump win, in December of said timeframes. Obama signed a law allowing U.N. Troops to post up in U.S. The marines are Trumps counter move to U.N. troops. Both U.N. and Fema were activated prior to Trump activating Marines. There is chatter that Calexit might go live and hence all this craziness. Just be prepared, pray and stay alert.
Portmagaland I hope it's all be
Portmagaland Bs
Doug_W I am 70 and all my life I have heard "that" in one form or another all of it
Clay settling down a bit I guess
Wilder Portmagaland with a little pepper too. Signs of the times.
Portmagaland https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6hZT2dSaEj8
Doug_W Portmagaland why do U listen to that JUNK?
Portmagaland Doug_W If you listen to CNN or any MSM, I have the same question for you?
Doug_W I do NOT
Portmagaland Doug_W Ok, that's hood, I'm just searching for the truth.
IQD CALLS Chat Sunday Night 10-6-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Sunday Night 10-6-19
Deano what's happening all
Young_SC Deano Guru Jeff said we are waiting for the formation of the government
Baxter Young_SC I think he should have said... waiting for a New Government.. this one isnt working obviously
Sparky Baxter ...you read an article said Mahdi is all done ?
Baxter nope whats all done.. the riots?
Sparky Baxter oh, ok... Sorry...
Baxter oh... I read that he is stepping down..yes we will see I guess
Sparky Baxter yeah, that's what I thought...
Baxter just like Maliki... he is still around 5 years later
Sparky Baxter ...hard to get rid of them... once they are on the payroll..
Baxter I know it
Wilder Marines ordered to active duty for civil authorities.
So says this preacher Paul Begley
IQD CALLS Chat Sunday Night 10-6-19
Deano what's happening all
Young_SC Deano Guru Jeff said we are waiting for the formation of the government
Baxter Young_SC I think he should have said... waiting for a New Government.. this one isnt working obviously
Sparky Baxter ...you read an article said Mahdi is all done ?
Baxter nope whats all done.. the riots?
Sparky Baxter oh, ok... Sorry...
Baxter oh... I read that he is stepping down..yes we will see I guess
Sparky Baxter yeah, that's what I thought...
Baxter just like Maliki... he is still around 5 years later
Sparky Baxter ...hard to get rid of them... once they are on the payroll..
Baxter I know it
Wilder Marines ordered to active duty for civil authorities.
So says this preacher Paul Begley. https://youtu.be/pS8eHpt_YBg
Crazycrypto quick question it seems Mahdi resigned or is going to shortly some gurus believe he already has
Crazycrypto what do u think is gonna happen?
Xyz Crazycrypto has not resigned and no concrete evidence otherwise. It's a guru made up crap
Crazycrypto oh ok sorry just what i have heard i read an article today saying Sadr has told Mahdi to resign along side his whole cabinet
Xyz Crazycrypto yes sadr and abadi plus others did. Some ministers submitted resignations but ...
xyz Source: 7 ministers submitted their resignation, but Abdul Mahdi refused to maintain the government https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=ar&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.alghadpress.com%2Fview.php%3Fcat%3D218558&sandbox=1
Crazycrypto seems mahdi maybe willing to die for that position
Crazycrypto i know the protestors and sadr want him gone
xyz"Gang of monkeys" stir terror in India! https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.alsumaria.tv%2Fnews%2F_%2F320810%2F0&sandbox=1
xyz Must read
Chocolatiere Peewee ! Iraq is a screwed up country thanks to the distabilizing globalist elites .. They create wars and chaos .. they for sure do not want people like us to be wealth .. wealth means power .. I think that they are so missed up they may Lop a float sounds good right now , blessings ..
Sparky Wilder ... only Dinarians and Ukrainian s on my crew..
Wilder chocolatiere Cmon now. Give me something better than that to sleep on
sparky...make agenda...fool the masses... achieve agenda...
chocolatiere Sparky Hi ! What are your thoughts on what has been happening ? Feeling sorry for those young people who have died in Iraq .. Right now praying for the poor people there ...
chocolatiere Sparky yes it's the Hegelian dialectic agenda ..
Sparky chocolatiere ... protesters necessary...for change... could be a delay, but... good for Iraqis...
Young_SC Lol@ this chat room saying LOP nonsense
Young_SC Dont you guys who say float follow on whats going on
Young_SC And what a LOP IS
Sparky chocolatiere ...you know what s up girl...
Young_SC chocolatiere why do you think they are protesting lolol
chocolatiere Sparky they did the same with WWII , then after The war they said ( we have the answer so these atrcities
Sparky chocolatiere ...war...boom...bust economic theory...
Sparky Young_SC ...we export... for that reason only...fact..
Sparky *war
chocolatiere Sparky after WWII these global cabal came forward and said ( we have the answer so that those attrocities never happen again ! K
Sparky chocolatiere ... revolving door..
Wilder Do you think anyone will step in if this keeps going on?
Wilder U.N.?
chocolatiere Sparky shoot my phone is all screwed up .. and being rebellious ! Sorry .. After the war they offered the U.N and everyone said yes !
Sparky Wilder ...no...
Sparky Wilder ..." Sovereign nation "...
Sparky Wilder ...can lead a horse to water, but can't make the horse ( camel ) ;camel drink
chocolatiere Young_SC Thank you for all your input and questions .. I do not know , only looking at what is common Sense feasible and what is not but I love this chat .. and I'm grateful to be allowed to participate .. Thank you all Aloha
Sparky chocolatiere ...imo... glad you participate in our endeavor...be blessed...
chocolatiere Wilder Hi Wilder .. The U N is one of the NWO elites organization .. there agenda 21 and 2030which can be checked on their website ,is for a unification of all nation's into one world GOVERNMENT and now they're working on the unification of religions .. 😵
chocolatiere Sparky Thank you much ..
Sparky chocolatiere ... won't happen in our lifetime....imo...it's all about love.
Wilder chocolatiere Thanks
Sparky chocolatiere ...higher frequency...
Wilder Abbas Najm, a 43-year-old unemployed engineer who was part of a rally on Saturday. “We are not afraid of bullets or the death of martyrs. We will keep going and we won’t back down.” https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/06/iraq-protests-un-demands-end-to-violence-as-death-tolls-nears-100
Wilder It's sad.
Sparky Wilder USA rocks... period
Sparky Wilder ... I wake up to birds chirping...
Wilder Like whats going on in Washington now. Yes. We are still blessed. Odten times our gov't is a joke.
Sparky Wilder ... Republican or Democrat president... basically status quo for me... notwithstanding investment z..
IQD CALLS Chat Early Sunday 10-6-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Early Sunday 10-6-19
Chattels With the body count growing due to government sanctioned violence, the likely appearance of Hashd groups adding to the repression, and the inability of the elite to come up with suggestions that can engage the street the turmoil across Iraq is likely to continue.
The south should be especially important to watch, because if less people show up due to the killings that would be a huge hit. Baghdad however seems embroiled in rage and fury for the foreseeable future.
chattels Fri Sadr ordered his Sairoon list to boycott parliament Abdul Mahdi to resign & new elections Frm PM Abadi also called for new vote & suspending provincial councils …
chattels An emergency session of the Council of Ministers Saturday 05 October 21:27 2019
Baghdad / Nina / Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi chaired an emergency session of the Council of Ministers to discuss the developments of the demonstrations.
6 Oct 19, 04:52 AM chattels The Council of Ministers issues the first package of the decisions of its extraordinary session
chattels " The Council also decided to discuss the second package of resolutions related to reforms and the demands of the demonstrators at the next session, and to continue taking the necessary decisions in the subsequent sessions."
IQD CALLS Chat Early Sunday 10-6-19
Chattels With the body count growing due to government sanctioned violence, the likely appearance of Hashd groups adding to the repression, and the inability of the elite to come up with suggestions that can engage the street the turmoil across Iraq is likely to continue.
The south should be especially important to watch, because if less people show up due to the killings that would be a huge hit. Baghdad however seems embroiled in rage and fury for the foreseeable future. http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/10/have-iraqs-protests-reached-tipping.html
chattels Fri Sadr ordered his Sairoon list to boycott parliament Abdul Mahdi to resign & new elections Frm PM Abadi also called for new vote & suspending provincial councils http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/10/have-iraqs-protests-reached-tipping.html …
chattels An emergency session of the Council of Ministers Saturday 05 October 21:27 2019
Baghdad / Nina / Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi chaired an emergency session of the Council of Ministers to discuss the developments of the demonstrations. https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=791145
6 Oct 19, 04:52 AM chattels The Council of Ministers issues the first package of the decisions of its extraordinary session
Sunday 06 October 07:34 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=791151
chattels " The Council also decided to discuss the second package of resolutions related to reforms and the demands of the demonstrators at the next session, and to continue taking the necessary decisions in the subsequent sessions."
chattels Halbousi: We need 400 trillion dinars to create 100 thousand housing units
Saturday 05 October 22:36 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=791147
chattels 400 trillion dinars ??????????????
xyz "Pompous*" Romney 'No Good For Republicans', Trump Blasts
"If Mitt worked this hard on Obama, he could have won. Sadly, he choked!" https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-slams-pompous-ass-romney-claims-hes-bad-republicans
Larrykn Gunmen attack TV offices in Baghdad amid popular unrest https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44159/Gunmen-attack-TV-offices-in-Baghdad-amid-popular-unrest
larrykn 19 Iraqis killed in protests on Saturday despite calls for calm https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44160/19-Iraqis-killed-in-protests-on-Saturday-despite-calls-for-calm
Baxterjust reading up on the violence over there....not good for my dimes
Doug_W that may not be the case this MAY stir them to real action Bax
Baxter lets hope
Doug_W yes Sir fingers crossed
Spankie they need to hang Maliki in the town square to show they are fighting corruption
Young_SC spankie Mahdi about to join him
spankie he is a slacker-
spankie the last presedente showed some strength but I think Maliki money corrupted him
Xyz 10-5-2019 Intel/Newshound Guru Frank26 ... CBI is going to bring out the pictures of the lower denoms/smaller notes.
biff Sparky I was in the desert ( Kuwait & Iraq 2005-2008) as a Contractor. Thats how I found out about the Iraqi Dinar.
Sparky larrykn ...they always like to take out the media...when bad agenda begins...
Sparky ... young Iraqis rattling the cage now...
Sparky ...young, smart...agile...mobile...and hostile...will create change... just waking up to their possible future...
xyz Iraqi Prime Minister Mahdi Agrees to ... R... https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201910061076974186-iraqi-prime-minister-mahdi-agrees-to-cabinet-reshuffle/
xyz Source: 7 ministers submitted their resignation, but Abdul Mahdi refused to maintain the government https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=ar&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.alghadpress.com%2Fview.php%3Fcat%3D218558&sandbox=1
Sparky ... Mahdi "magic "... eliminating corruption... easier said than done...
Sparky ...and in comes Abadi... reforms begin...
Sparky ...again...this time... for real...imo...
spankie whole lotta hot air- mahdi agrees to reforms---
Sparky ...Kurd Arabs... Sunni Muslims, and Shiites... triangular ...
Sparky spankie ... Mahdi gotta go...he has nothing...lame duck...no affiliation to back him...
Sparky ... good dude... wrong position in Iraqs government...he is no leader...imo
Sparky ... even with Sadr...and Sistani back ing him,... dud didn't get it done
spankie getting Mahdi is like picking someone off the streets-- Abadi was way better but changed half way thru
Sparky ... Suadi Sunnis will sort them out, if they stall any longer... with help from Israel and US... Iran about to feel the heat...imo...
5 more dead in the iraq protest
madnss dont know what to say except I feel this is not looking good for us as holders
Sparky madness ... I have a feeling we may need to take a step back, before we go forward...
madness yeah and now there saying there not going to activate article 140 that cant be good either, darn I thought we were so close you could almost taste it
Sparky madness ... store doesn't open until noon...
madness noon? wow how do they stay in business opening that late
Sparky madness ...only in Sunday...noon to 7... otherwise 8 to 11...
Sparky *on
madness Sparky oh ok my store and I live the middle of no where now opens at 6 am
Sparky madness yup...if I owned a store, and maybe I will, I would be open as long as law allows...
madness well im in cali, our stores can stay open 24/7 if they choose too
Sparky madness . In Massachusetts, can't sell until 8 am...
madness just cant buy beer from 2am to 6am
madness on the iraq issue I read they told all embassy employees to get out of the country, weather is cool and calm, thank god I hate when its a 100 plus degrees
madness Young_SC Good Morning young and that is at least good news on the embassy
Young_SC Sparky about People in people in the US embassy to evacuate
madness what is a trip is those iraqs are so pissed off there not even listening to there religious leaders even
Francis Albert Correction from post I made yesterday...saw it on recaps. The Iraqi Oil Trust was run by Bank of New York Mellon, not J.P. Morgan as I stated. Sorry.
Dave Francis Albert Forgiven!
Sparky Francis Albert ...JP was in first...
Francis Albert Maybe so...as I stated..but I know Mellon ran it for years..thanks..probably still do
Dave Dave 40 Hail Marys
Sparky Francis Albert ... Citi also tight...
Dave Wish I had a huge Chase credit card debit......
madness citibank is the only bank selling dinar right now, only other way is to go to a currency seller usually by the airport
Dave They forgave all debit to Canadians
Sparky Dave ...lol... Canucks... forgiven...
madness and this out you have to have an account for 30 days before can buy WTF?
Sparky madness ...CCI...buy today with cash...
madness cheaper at the bank or currency center
Sparky *CXI...
madness yeah we have an cxi out there too
Dave Who would buy Dinar.......looks like civil war down there
madnessa bout 950 per million iqd
Sparky madness ...that's your huckleberry...
madness im not buying any dinar its collecting dust, plus I already drank it
Dave madness yeah the events occuring really encourage foreign investment
madness Dave well think about it, if you were a foreign investor would you be like, oh hey I think I want to put some money in your country, ummm NOT this is not rocket science
Dave hehe no doubt
Sparky Dave ...think future...and,vbe patient...
madness yeah I dont see this going anytime soon now, or maybe I could be wrong, remember its iraq, maybe the cbi says go international and give the people some wealth before a full out war breaks out
Dave No Stability
madness yeah and they had stability but there greed ruined it all
Dave new elections.........yrs to seat a new GOVT.......?
Young_SC Dave madness Remember why they are protesting
Young_SC Dave CBI MAKES THE DECISIONS
Dave CORRUPTION?
Dave Young_SC you think?
Young_SC Dave Yes Dave
madness young I know why there protesting, but the question is will the poor citizens get what they want? its a crap shoot
Dave thought kap did
Madness I think some people have been waiting 15 years plus, im a noob cant imagine this all going down how they are feeling, baxters poor dime is on life support to boot
biff some investments are longer
Dave Young_SC Those crooks are smart
Sparky biff ...yup...
Dave divert and delay ....they know how it works
biff When I was in Iraq I put of my dinar Banks and ISX
madness the crooks in iraq are not smart, its just the citizens dont have guns so they can roll right over them and not care, bet gun sales go through roof from neighboring countries if this goes the distance
Sparky Dave ... chaos is the foundation of the Maliki machine...
Dave Young_SC been waiting for a few laws...... the only thing that has yet to happen are these laws
Sparky biff ...Warka ?
biff Yes Warka
madness dam sparky said I should go into the shovel business, too bad im not in the gun running business in iraq right now
Dave madness wheel barrows next?
biff and Credit Bank of Iraq too
madness Dave LOL
biff I dont think is good to be in lots of cash
Sparky biff ...cool.. I have an account there also...
Dave sadr militia has guns
biff The CBI has taken Warka under there wing
Dave wonder how many militias...........
madness Dave well then now might be a good time to use them or the threat of using them, put those in parliament in check
biff many sunni and shia groups
Dave Peshmerga......the only real army?
Sparky biff ...6.5 % interest...if, I can ever get it out... I'm thinking MC...
Dave think if they got invilved
madness bottom line with all this world attention on them now, I dont see the cbi coming out and saying welcome to iraq were going international come in and bring money
Dave biff used to be about Shia vs Sunni ...now they are after the Govt
biff They still pay interest
Sparky biff ...yup...
madness darn I hope I am wrong but logic does not dictate that
biff little more shia
biff Has anyone seen the movie " The devil double"
biff devils double
madness hey in your guys all opinion do you think if the cbi did flip the switch and brought a little value to there currency it would calm the people down?
biff no
madness oh great so were screwed
biff 1.20
Sparky madness ...of course...
Dave madness RAPID Changes on the horizon 10 more days?
madness Sparky well at least biff told the truth did not even hesitate
Sparky Dave ... months...
biff Do they have a new govt ready?
Dave Sparky months what?
Dave biff Talk of new elections
biff I will be back. Game Time !
Sparky Dave ..rate and date...10 months...we be better...
Young_SC Dave lolol@ waiting for a few Laws
Young_SC So i guess laws are in the way of citizens receiving purchasing power? Lol
Young_SC Jeff : They still have two major things to do before the rate can change. This is based on current facts. What I'm telling you can change through time but as where we're at right now with current facts - the two things remaining are they have to finish the formation of the government and approve the budget...then they can change the rate.
That's exactly where we're at. The facts are unfolding right before your eyes...
Young_SC UNFOLDING RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYES FOLKS
Baxter Young_SC WHATS THAT?
Deano what's happening all
Young_SC Deano Guru Jeff said we are waiting for the formation of the government
IQD CALLS Chat Saturday Evening 10-5-19 Part 2 of 2
.IQD CALLS Chat Saturday Evening 10-5-19 Part 2 of 2
Red Dave I'm watching the hashtags on twitter. It's a mess.
Dave Why not just pass the laws tomorrow?
Francis Albert Chaos could be a good time to get creative with their currency scheme..or not. Politics is a strange beast regardless of the Country
Francis Albert I am virtually certain the Dollar Inc. crowd controls the CBI, and has since the
Francis Albert "liberation"
Dave Francis Albert CBI likes Poliical stability?
Francis Albert Oh who knows Dave what they like. Central banks make money when things go up and when things go down.
Dave CBI has done very well
Red Many people are gonna need these lessons cause they gave up and sold their dinar. Or they didn't believe and mocked it
IQD CALLS Chat Saturday Evening 10-5-19 Part 2 of 2
Red Dave I'm watching the hashtags on twitter. It's a mess.
Dave Why not just pass the laws tomorrow?
Francis Albert Chaos could be a good time to get creative with their currency scheme..or not. Politics is a strange beast regardless of the Country
Francis Albert I am virtually certain the Dollar Inc. crowd controls the CBI, and has since the
Francis Albert "liberation"
Dave Francis Albert CBI likes Poliical stability?
Francis Albert Oh who knows Dave what they like. Central banks make money when things go up and when things go down.
Dave CBI has done very well
Red Many people are gonna need these lessons cause they gave up and sold their dinar. Or they didn't believe and mocked it. https://youtu.be/wCS2ci29jD0 :popcorn
Sparky biff ... you in the sand ?
Francis Albert And if we are waiting on "political stability" in the Middle East, we may as well sell our Dinar and go to the track with a fist of cash.
Dave Bahrain UAE Saudi Kuwait pretty clm
Dave calm
Sparky Francis Albert ... relatively stable... hopefully will make greed take over... for outside investment...
Francis Albert All Central Banks have big balance sheets, because they create "money" and monetize debt instruments the FED has 3.7 Trillion their balance sheet. They monetize debt, that's all they do.
Francis Albert We know for certain The Iraqi Oil trust was initiated upon invasion, run by J.P. Morgan to "look after" the oil revenues. Still going on.
Francis Albert Sparky...to your good point. The world is salivating to come into Iraq..Oil, fertile land and water...lots and lots of water
Francis Albert Which is why the U.S. came in and set up these massive bases.
Francis Albert And I believe that is where the funding for Dinar investors will come from. The monetization of debt. All currencies are debt instruments. Central Banks can and do "monetize" debt instruments.
That's what they do for a living. You bring your Dinar into Wells Fargo some day, they create the Dollars, take the Dinar, take a cut, work with the FED, who takes a cut for running the war, Treasury ends up with the Dinar to trade with Iraq for probably $30 a barrel. Till the end of time.
Francis Albert Ah..the spoils of war
Francis Albert And this is the piece that this fellow Kap, I believe is missing. I may be wrong, but don't think I am.
Sparky Francis Albert ... wow...good stuff...still trying to process all that... I remember JP involved initially...
Francis Albert Kap continues to argue that with Trillions of Dinar out there, the value could not go up because Iraq would have to come up with the Dollars to exchange...it is not that simple.
Francis Albert Yes, research it. The Iraqi Oil Trust
Francis Albert This whole thing, IMO, was well planned out. The bankers, the Neo Cons..the Cheney crowd. Make up the WMD thing, go in and take over the Central Bank. Same thing in Libya...Iran is next
Sparky Francis Albert 43 T IQD in circulation.. how does that reconcile with 1.8 USD in circulation..at 1:1 ?
Francis Albert Sparky...sorry..don't understand please 1.8 USD in circulation?
Dave Sparky 43 T show me please
Sparky Francis Albert ... you are on point my friend...
Francis Albert Well, banks say a lot of stuff. We have no idea of how many Dinar are in "circulation" and where they are etc...the important details.
Sparky Francis Albert .. how much USD in circulation ?
Sparky ...or, I am starting to see your point...hmm...
Francis Albert Good question. "They" stopped putting out real numbers M1, M3 and L in the late 90's, but I had a dear friend who taught me this stuff for 25 years...he's was on it...and best estimate about 30 Trillion Dollars in circulation, and 96% of it is digital, not paper.
Dave can you show me 43 T.........PLEASE?
Dave i can show you want was printed yrs back to replace those 2003 notes
Sparky Francis Albert ... interesting... please continue...
Francis Albert And then when you add in potential money, or what we call P....derivatives about 2.5 quadrillion of those rascals floating around
Sparky Francis Albert ...and potential of Iraq.. ?
Dave Francis Albert based on a 1 to 1 rate......?
Francis Albert Which is why, IMO, all this gold backed stuff for U.S. is just non sense.
Francis Albert Don't understand Sparky what you mean potential at 1 to 1 rate?
Dave 2.5 quaddrillion from 30 trillion
Sparky Francis Albert ... sorry... simply asking your thoughts on potential value of Iraq ... resources...
Francis Albert The only real value is gold, silver, oil, water, land for agriculture. The "money" is just fiat stuff. The word fiat is cool. It is when something is given a value by fiat. So, a bunch of people decide what currency's are worth every day by how much they print and how much they suck out of circulation.
Dave usd to dinar
Francis Albert yes, a quadrillion is a thousand trillion. Estimates are 2.5 quadrillion in derivatives. Just bets on this or that..in dollars.
Sparky Francis Albert ... and Tigrus and Euphrates...
Dave Sparky 43 T ......still waiting????
Sparky Francis Albert ... thank you for your thoughts my friend...very interesting indeed...
Dave Sparky tick tick tick..........
Sparky Dave ...go to IMF, article 4 consultations, and click on the tab that says Kap...
Francis Albert My pleasure. I've just seen some of Kap's postings on Recap, so thinking I would come in here and chat about his main point he keeps bringing up.
Dave Sparky not there....send a link please
Sparky Francis Albert ... thanks... looking forward to your chat with Kaperoni... brought some very good stuff... I appreciate you...
Sparky Dave IMF.org
Dave Sparky nothing from Kap though
Dave just thast little bit...43T?
Sparky Dave ...you know that I don't do links... everything I type, is imo...you know that. .
Francis Albert I think that with out a deeper understanding of the big picture, folks tend to hang on to some gurus selling hopium, and it's a shame really...they believe these people.
Sparky Francis Albert ... I value all thoughts...
Sparky ...and so does my bong...bong sayz FA is knowledgable...
Dave Sparky aint there thats why https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2019/07/26/pr19301-iraq-imf-executive-board-concludes-2019-article-iv-consultation-with-iraq
Sparky Dave ... click on the tab that starts with Kap...
Dave Sparky oh ...okay just not quite in your dimension yet
Sparky Dave ... oh, ok..., still good with 1000 fils for a coke though...1 Deenarz....
Sparky ...1:1...
Dave funny i have asked Kap numerous times to show me........43T still waiting.....
Sparky Dave ... you know why?...they don't tell outsiders...ie non central bank clique...
Francis Albert I think there' s been may numbers thrown out Dave on Dinars out there. And again, where they are, whatever the number is, an who has control over them no one knows. You can't audit Central Banks, they are private
Dave oh Kap never said it was leaked to him......
Francis Albert sorry ...many numbers...
Sparky IMF...and all central banks... are a clique...imo...
Dave Sparky and they okay doky who enters
Francis Albert UST could have, could have tons of Dinar...which they could burn, if it would serve their purpose
Sparky Dave ...false numbers...
Dave looong pullllllll
Sparky Dave ... We are not insiders,... therefore know Jack...
Dave Sparky Kap Knows!
Francis Albert Central Banks "extinguish" money all the time.
Sparky Dave ...lol... good one...
Sparky ... just his opinion...let it go...
Dave Sparky He must be greedy ....wont ever share that tidbit
Sparky Dave ... don't worry...my bong and me have a good feeling about this...
Dave Sparky After the Revolution?
Sparky Dave .. yup... apparently, that is what It is going to take...
Sparky Dave ... could be a smokescreen while Abadi had a time out...who really knows...?
indiana holder Question.... The one thing my friend never told me .... what to do with the currency when it does pop off
Matt indiana holder That is up to you but I will Exchange it or at least some of it for USD
Matt BTC / Bitcoin $8,151.13
indiana holder I only have 50,000 Dinar
IQD CALLS Chat Saturday Evening 10-5-19 Part 1 of 2
. IQD CALLS Chat Saturday Evening 10-5-19 Part 1 of 2
Larrykn Saleh, al-Halbousi call for maintaining community security of protestors
larrykn Arab League voices concern over unrest in Iraq
larrykn Baghdad`s protests death toll rises to 100 and injuries to 4000
larrykn Iraq refutes reports claiming Salih headed for KRG amid protests
madness well I did read something that the protestors are giving them 15 days, if this does not go by the end of the month and some reform is done, well just have to keep baxters dime on life support and see what happens, maybe it might get them to move there butts and do something for the people
Young_SC madness not sure why people are focused on instabilty. Give the citizens what they want and everything will be stable again
Young_SC Yes protest will cause ruckus that is the point of the protest
Francis Albert I believe the entire revaluation process was set up by first Invading, second take over the CBI, third hammer the IQD to .00086, fourth control the Country, fifth, set up U.S. bases, and finally revalue the currency so Treasury ends up with Dinar to trade for oil at super low cost till the end of time. The spoils of war
Francis Albert So, to expect that the current "turmoil" doesn't have U.S. fingerprints all over it, IMO, is well, naive.
Francis Albert And if the Iraqi's get a little of their purchasing power back...well, so much the better..keep them happy under a foreign invader
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Larrykn Saleh, al-Halbousi call for maintaining community security of protestors https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44147/Saleh-al-Halbousi-call-for-maintaining-community-security-of-protestors
larrykn Arab League voices concern over unrest in Iraq https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44149/Arab-League-voices-concern-over-unrest-in-Iraq
larrykn Baghdad`s protests death toll rises to 100 and injuries to 4000 https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44146/Baghdad-s-protests-death-toll-rises-to-100-and-injuries-to-4000
larrykn Iraq refutes reports claiming Salih headed for KRG amid protests https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44151/Iraq-refutes-reports-claiming-Salih-headed-for-KRG-amid-protests
madness well I did read something that the protestors are giving them 15 days, if this does not go by the end of the month and some reform is done, well just have to keep baxters dime on life support and see what happens, maybe it might get them to move there butts and do something for the people
Young_SC madness not sure why people are focused on instabilty. Give the citizens what they want and everything will be stable again
Young_SC Yes protest will cause ruckus that is the point of the protest
Francis Albert I believe the entire revaluation process was set up by first Invading, second take over the CBI, third hammer the IQD to .00086, fourth control the Country, fifth, set up U.S. bases, and finally revalue the currency so Treasury ends up with Dinar to trade for oil at super low cost till the end of time. The spoils of war
Francis Albert So, to expect that the current "turmoil" doesn't have U.S. fingerprints all over it, IMO, is well, naive.
Francis Albert And if the Iraqi's get a little of their purchasing power back...well, so much the better..keep them happy under a foreign invader
Francis Albert Zig..been wanting to connect with Kap here some time to talk about the note count he often mentions and why I believe it is not an issue because of the way I believe the funding will happen.
Tebow the current "turmoil" is totally from Iraq not moving forward. Iraqis are tired of their government doing nothing
Murray What is going on in Iraq?
Young_SC Tebow Exactly
Dave had green zone closed for yrs for that reason
Dave Coup time????? hopefully the peeps are finally fed up......
Sparky Dave ... apparently...and, necessary...
Dave yrs of chasing their tail all the current leaders ...corrupt sadly i believe things will get much worse before better.......so says my crystal ball Maliki buddy buddy now......
Sparky Dave ... agree... necessary, and my bong agrees also... hopefully short term delay...2021...
Dave what a soap opera These leaders are some of the richest folks in the world
Dave agreed\ yrs of calm ...now this.......worse than before
Sparky ... I must admit, I do like our position...and the drama...lol...
Dave 12 days left for arrest warrants 1 of the demands of protesters or was it 11?
Sparky Dave ...the wealth of that nation... coupled with the greed of enormous proportions...on both ends...un f',n believable...
Dave Mahdi states its too much........in 1 yr
SparkyDave ...HOT seat...pm...
Dave Sparky Call it Immunity........you folks may becoming familiar with this term
Sparky Dave ...Abadi in before end of '19...bong sayz...
Dave Mahdi set up ,,,,ran as an independent no party affiliation ....ergo no teeth
Sparky Dave ...yup...thought Sadr would help things along...but so far...dormant...
Dave Sparky more corrupt officials than not
Sparky Dave ... Maliki machine...is alive and well...
Dave Allawi Najaffi etc etc
Sparky Dave ...coup is necessary...imo...
Sparky thinking that too
Sparky Dave ... Barzani...etc... list goes on and on...70 %...
Dave to the tune of almost 1 T usd
Dave 1,000.000,000,000 usd
Sparky Dave ...5th richest...12th most corrupt...and their people are starving, and living in cemeteries...?
Dave Sparky 12th....thought 5th?
Dave close enough....192 countries ish
Sparky Dave ...take all the ministry...and let them go the way of Saddam...
Dave Sparky folks did much better with Saddam than now
Sparky Dave ...read today 12th...but...man is that disgraceful...what a statistic...
Dave Sparky given their wealth ....you think
Sparky Dave ...hang them all...let God sort them out...they all have their fingers in the cookie jar...
Dave look at what the UAE did....with nodda....except for oil
Sparky Dave ... I recall your time elapsed video...can you repost that please...
Sparky ...desert to city...lots of crane action... lickety split...UAE...got it done...
Sparky ... demonstrates what oil money can do, if used correctly...
Sparky ... below ground...to above ground... transition...and, for their citizens...
Sparky UAE citizens aren't hurtin...
Sparky ... anywho... I think YoungSC and I are pretty much on the same page... basically...simply differ on route to positive outcome...
Dave yeah...00086 outcome lol 1 dime ok...... less......LOP
Baxter looks like we have plenty of time with all the ruckus going on over there..
Dave just hope it has teeth this time
Sparky ...Sadr and Sistani trying to calm the protestors... a little late for that I think...best get those reforms going... before fit hits the shan...and gets worse...
Dave And now M aliki posturing himself as a saint
Young_SC Sparky lolol
Young_SC I agree
Young_SC I think its getting to a point where they have no choice now
Young_SC Maliki trying to make himself look good
Dave Young_SC thought that for yrs now
Young_SC Dave Its getting worst now
Dave yep.....
Young_SC The citizens are very loud now
Dave 11 days???
Young_SC Dave hmm I wonder what Kap thinks
Dave Exacctly
Young_SC Lol
Dave thought all the newly elected technocrats were going to change things
Young_SC Dave nope
Young_SC Not unless they feel the pressure
Dave Young_SC Maliki still in Baghdad?
Young_SC Corrupt politicians living good while the citizens struggle
Young_SC It will get worse if the citizens are not given what they want
Young_SC It will not stop
Sparky Young_SC ... Mahdi is lame duck...no affiliation with any majority... and running scared...like chicken...Z...
Young_SC Indeed
Young_SC While Iran making them their puppets
Dave Maliki not going down without a fight......?
Young_SC The corrupt has had their hands in the pots for way too long now
Sparky Z not scared, just referring to a late night post a few days ago...
Young_SC It needs to stop
Sparky Young_SC ... Abadi has been posturing for comeback to pm for last 6 months... separation from DAWA party...was inevitable...as, that is Maliki / Iran machine...
Sparky ...SOL sux...imo...
biff Biff Border Wars
Young_SC Sparky indeed
Dave Sparky Think a big Coup would work faster?
Sparky Dave ... I m starting to think so...
Dave These dudes aint going down without a fight....
Sparky Dave .. status quo could go on forever...need a kick in the arse...to get a little giddy up in their get along...
Dave Sparky About time?
Dave new elections all over again another few yrs to form a Govt?
biff The protest must get to the Greenzone
Dave biff Closed now.....
Sparky biff Maliki loves chaos...
biff he's day will come lol
Dave Sparky Status QUO
biff yes
Dave create another crisis....good at that
Dave delay tactics
biff If Obama would have sign the SOFA Agreement iran would not br there
Sparky Dave ...and steal all the money with his left hand...
Dave most of them?
Dave much better transparency now......it about passing laws.....immunity etc
Dave thats what they are scared of
Red 15 mins ago - https://twitter.com/AAlsalman91/status/1180596515397464065
Former Prime Minister of #Iraq has said that the current #Iraqi government has lost all legitimacy and must step down immediately.... Abadi tweet translated –
"Demanding the government has lost the capacity to run the government, I ask the country's leaders to set an initial date for early elections. Ensuring free and fair elections with broad public participation is a testimony to the seriousness of the political forces to respond to the calls for reform demanded by the people. Information Office Haider Abadi 2019/10/5"
Dave yes.... then await for another 3-4 yrs for them to form a new Govt..........
Francis Albert I think Abadi is just throwing hail Mary passes at this point. New elections? Not going to happen IMO
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xyz Death toll climbs to 100 in Iraq as protests spread
More than 2,500 people also injured since protests began on Oct. 1
chattels Iran's influence seen in transfer of Iraqi war hero
READ IN: Mustafa Saadoun October 4, 2019
chattels Iraq is a complicated and tangled web.
chattels Corruption, deceit, fear and loathing.
chattels Iraqi Parliament fails to convene emergency session to discuss protests due to absence of MPs. Speaker of Parliament meets with 50 person delegation representing protesters & receives demands. Over 100 killed in protests. http://mobp.as/fa6Tp
chattels Amir Abdollahian of Iranian Government: there is a foreign hand in the unrest in Iraq, Zionists & those who protect takfiiri terrorists.
chattels Baghdad Operations Command announced on Saturday its attempt to arrest a sniper targeting demonstrators in the capital
IQD CALLS Chat Early Saturday 10-5-19
xyz Death toll climbs to 100 in Iraq as protests spread
More than 2,500 people also injured since protests began on Oct. 1 https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/death-toll-climbs-to-100-in-iraq-as-protests-spread/1602753#
chattels Iran's influence seen in transfer of Iraqi war hero
READ IN: Mustafa Saadoun October 4, 2019
chattels Iraq is a complicated and tangled web.
chattels Corruption, deceit, fear and loathing.
chattels Iraqi Parliament fails to convene emergency session to discuss protests due to absence of MPs. Speaker of Parliament meets with 50 person delegation representing protesters & receives demands. Over 100 killed in protests. http://mobp.as/fa6Tp
chattels Amir Abdollahian of Iranian Government: there is a foreign hand in the unrest in Iraq, Zionists & those who protect takfiiri terrorists.
chattels Baghdad Operations Command announced on Saturday its attempt to arrest a sniper targeting demonstrators in the capital. LINK
chattels Sadr said his Sairoon bloc would boycott parliament He and Abadi called for govt to resign and new elections Speaker Halbusi invited protesters to parliament to voice their demands https://twitter.com/JoelWing2
chattels PM Abdul Mahdi continued feckless statements to protestors Said he was committed to fighting corruption and called for reform. Ayatollah Sistani's Friday sermon seemed very establishment & as bad as Abdul Mahdi's Said violence should stop and parliament and courts should carry out reforms. https://twitter.com/JoelWing2
xyz Guru saint @kaperoni, what are imf documents stating about DAMANDING cbi as the own them? ..... 10-5-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni These Iraqi protests have gone on now for several days. This is not what we as investors want to see happen. Delays in reform and investment will be the result. Not good...They need to get investment and companies to come in and put people to work, that is what will raise the value of the currency.
chattels Protest in Najaf broken up by gunfire Governor & police chief said saboteurs infiltrated protests and causing violence Similar rhetoric used last yr to discredit demos in Basra and justify repression. https://twitter.com/DavidMWitty1?lang=en
madness well hate to be the bearer of bad news, but they have 100 dead 4000 wounded in iraq, there just went your stability of iraq, I for dont see an ri/rv coming soon now, put that iqd back in your safe and collect more dust, its going be awhile, unless im wrong and I hope I am, but not feeling it now,
madness or maybe by some miracle they do meet there demands, but I wont hold my breath, I think could go into full blown war with the citizens
Baxter madness I think you are correct... no stability..no RV
Madness yeah what a bummer it seemed like it was coming to a head and them boom this blows up
Baxter its always something
Baxter Maliki is grinning ear to ear
madness its cool I am a noob so I got into this a year ago with a 5 year plan, now if this iqd krap does not rv in that time frame then yes, its ebay time
Baxter geez.. i said that ten years ago and here I am
madness feel bad for your dime, its been tear gassed and now it might be on life support
Baxter I know.... I still have my fishin poles...
madness well on the good side I will always stop in and say hello, so get to meet people, iqd cant buy me that
Larrykn Saleh, al-Halbousi call for maintaining community security of protestors https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44147/Saleh-al-Halbousi-call-for-maintaining-community-security-of-protestors
larrykn Arab League voices concern over unrest in Iraq https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44149/Arab-League-voices-concern-over-unrest-in-Iraq
larrykn Baghdad`s protests death toll rises to 100 and injuries to 4000 https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44146/Baghdad-s-protests-death-toll-rises-to-100-and-injuries-to-4000
larrykn Iraq refutes reports claiming Salih headed for KRG amid protests https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44151/Iraq-refutes-reports-claiming-Salih-headed-for-KRG-amid-protests
madness well I did read something that the protestors are giving them 15 days, if this does not go by the end of the month and some reform is done, well just have to keep baxters dime on life support and see what happens, maybe it might get them to move there butts and do something for the people
larrykn I hope they can settle the people down soon , this can be either good or bad for the country, they will either get off the pot or stall. we shall see.
madness well we went from 3 dead to 7 to now 100, with 4000 wounded, not looking good for us at all
madness think if you were an investor and its your money, oh heck know if what you might say, I will go somewhere else till you get your affairs in order
Baxter madness thats about the size of it
larrykn madness greed sets in, if there is money to be made , they will come no matter what.
madness well then they better do something fast and real fast this is already out of control
madness one thing we might watch is will this lower the value now of the iqd, OR? will it go up in value, getting to be a real sticking situation
Young_SC madness lower the value of the iqd???
Young_SC They are already protesting about not having anything
madness no im saying watch the market on our side, will it go up or down were we stand right now
Young_SC madness not sure if it can decrease much more if its not worth much to begin with on the market side
madness good point
Young_SC Outside of the borders you cant do anything with it technically
Young_SC Its not traded its not on the world stage yet its not being used yet
madness well you do have 1 ply toilet paper and 2 ply, we have 2 ply hope it does not become 1 ply
Young_SC Imo i think the protest are good. It had to happen
Young_SC To meet the demands of its people
Madness well if they meet the demands hell I think we might fair out in this, then we can take baxters dime off life support
Young_SC Exchange centers and redemption center LOL
Young_SC madness i think they do not have a choice
Young_SC Iran is making some of those politicians their puppets
Young_SC And the citizens if Iraq know
madness yeah young its getting ugly, im just worried about the harm to people and now the instability its causing
Zig TNT: "Tony".........."They are still manning the exchange centers. They truly believe we are on the verge of this happening."...
Madness lol at exchange centers, who? the heck is paying all these people to so called man exchange centers, I want to know how to I apply for that job,
Young_SC madness not sure why people are focused on instabilty. Give the citizens what they want and everything will be stable again
Young_SC Yes protest will cause ruckus that is the point of the protest
madness and I sure agree with that theory but you have think in the back of your mind, darn its iraq
Young_SC madness If you think its bad now what will happen if the GOI avoids the demands
Young_SC Continues to avoid the demands*
Young_SC You notice how the protest is against the GOI but not the CBI
madness its already out of control and now they even are not listening to there so called holy leaders, oh boy this could go side ways if they get guns in there hands.. makes your wonder God bless our 2nd amendment or our idiots in gov. would do the same to us, this should be a good learning thing
Young_SC madness the next step will attempt to kill their political leaders
madness yeah its not against the cbi, but seems the cbi cant move cause of the corrupt idiots in the goi so where does that put everyone
Young_SC madness indeed
Young_SC Mahdi is pro Iran
madness lol yeah I read there under heavy security, good maybe they need to clip a couple of them to get the rest of there attention
Young_SC madness So like i said give what the citizens want
Young_SC Mahdi wants to milk all the money he can get that is the main reason why he does not care for the citizens
madness young fingers crossed, you all have waited so long for this, for it to come to a head like this is not cool,
madness I wonder if we the US will have to step in, plus like I said its really not looking good if you were an outside investor trying to come in and rebuild the country
Young_SC Reports of a resignation to be submitted by Abdul-Mahdi before Saturday noon
- Parliament is determined to re-consider the demonstrators after a speech by President Mohammed Halbousi and news of a number of important decisions during Saturday's session
- Associated Press: An Iraqi policeman fired a bullet at the leg of a demonstrator talking to Iraqi journalists near Tahrir Square. The number of demonstrators near the area was about 1000 people and security forces opened fire in the surrounding streets to prevent the arrival of more demonstrators.
- Lifting curfew in Iraq starting from five dawn Saturday and the Washington Post quoted a spokesman for the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights Ali al-Bayati:
(Arrest of 35 people from hospitals in Baghdad And Nasiriyah).
Source: Ministry of Health: Victims of demonstrations in Iraq exceeded 100 Said and 1100 wounded
- Statement of Abadi:
* Abadi rejects the method of treason demonstrators and demands a national declaration of the right to peaceful protest, and have mercy on the martyrs.
* Abadi calls for early elections to avoid the pains of government failure and blocking the horizon of the political process.
* Abadi calls for freezing the provincial councils and consider their governments caretaker governments.
* Abadi calls for a fair election law and fair election mechanisms under wide supervision to ensure its integrity and not to repeat the violations of 2018 that distorted political life.
* Abadi calls on the government and political forces official pledges to ensure freedom from quotas, weapons, corruption and swallow the state.
* Abadi provides a vision for the current and next stage puts the government and political forces in front of options to test the seriousness and credibility to get out of the current impasse.
Young_SC LINK
madness nice post, guess well see what happens, seems to be a pattern and that is there is too many iranians calling the shots and the citizens are pissed, cant blame them, time to run them out, dont see any form of them going international until that happens, hope im wrong but well see
Young_SC The iranian influence needs to go away 100%
Young_SC And by protesting is how it will happen
madness yeah but if the protest ends up in a civil war, there goes your stability and there goes going global and there goes the iqd of doing anything for a while
Young_SC Lol@ civil war
Young_SC It wont get to that brother
Young_SC Angry citizens going against its GOI
madness I hope not but you do have 100 dead and probably counting and 4000 wounded, that does not seem like trying to be a stable country
Young_SC That is sad the death of people protesting
Young_SC Things will turn for the better
madness yeah so lol this could go full borders and then we wont be saying lol well saying this sucks, plus were going to have to chip in funds to keep baxters dime on life support so I hope you are right
Baxter just read where Mahdi has resigned..
madness oh well cool that is good news
madness dont worry baxter your dime has full medical coverage, and a 24 hour nurse watching its back, were all behind you all the way
Baxter thank you...
Young_SC madness Remember this investment is for the iraqi citizens first and foremost with the purchasing power. They do not cater to us citizens need to get what they are protesting. We only benefit when they change the rate, that is all. We here in North America are not catered to
madness I fully understand that, but if all fairness you can say if those iraq idiots GOI had done what they said they would do, it would not have come done to this in the first place, just saying.....
Young_SC madness That is very true
Young_SC Money is the root of all evil
Young_SC Drastic measures need to happen to cut off the corrupt and you are seeing it now
Young_SC Corrupt GOI love the money and willing to steal it away from its own iraqi citizens
madness well were all sitting on the sidelines, all we can hope for is the best, and yes I believe in drastic just so bad so many people have to pay the price
Francis Albert I believe the entire revaluation process was set up by first Invading, second take over the CBI, third hammer the IQD to .00086, fourth control the Country, fifth, set up U.S. bases, and finally revalue the currency so Treasury ends up with Dinar to trade for oil at super low cost till the end of time. The spoils of war
Francis Albert So, to expect that the current "turmoil" doesn't have U.S. fingerprints all over it, IMO, is well, naive.
Francis Albert And if the Iraqi's get a little of their purchasing power back...well, so much the better..keep them happy under a foreign invader
Zig @Kaperoni.....If you happen to be around reading here today Francis Albert would like to converse with you sometime..... :)
Francis Albert Zig..been wanting to connect with Kap here some time to talk about the note count he often mentions and why I believe it is not an issue because of the way I believe the funding will happen.
Tebow the current "turmoil" is totally from Iraq not moving forward. Iraqis are tired of their government doing nothing
Murray What is going on in Iraq?
Young_SC Tebow Exactly
Dave had green zone closed for yrs for that reason
Dave Coup time?????
Dave hopefully the peeps are finally fed up......
Sparky Dave ... apparently...and, necessary...
Dave yrs of chasing their tail
Dave all the current leaders ...corrupt
Dave sadly i believe things will get much worse before better.......so says my crystal ball
Dave Maliki buddy buddy now......
Sparky Dave ... agree... necessary, and my bong agrees also... hopefully short term delay...2021...
Dave what a soap opera
Dave These leaders are some of the richest folks in the world
Sparky Dave ...you can't make this sh ite up... non fiction...
Dave agreed\
Dave yrs of calm ...now this.......worse than before
Sparky ... I must admit, I do like our position...and the drama...lol...
Dave 12 days left for arrest warrants
Dave 1 of the demands of protesters
Dave or was it 11?
Sparky Dave ...the wealth of that nation... coupled with the greed of enormous proportions...on both ends...un f',n believable...
Dave Mahdi states its too much........in 1 yr
Sparky Dave ...HOT seat...pm...
Dave Sparky Call it Immunity........you folks may becoming familiar with this term
Sparky Dave ...Abadi in before end of '19...bong sayz...
Dave Mahdi set up ,,,,ran as an independent no party affiliation ....ergo no teeth
Sparky Dave ...yup...thought Sadr would help things along...but so far...dormant...
Dave Sparky more corrupt officials than not
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Dave just really really really hope these protests this time will finally have some teeth....
Dave so lets talk about whats happening in the real world?
Dave find it strange the news reported all thosse killed yesterday on our news,but nodda from Iraq?
Young_SC Dave hmm interesting
Young_SC I wonder why
Dave direct from Badghdad too...
Dave 38 killed ??????
Matt Dow Jones Industrial Average INDEXDJX: .DJI 26,573.72 +372.68 (1.42%)^
Sparky ...funny. .. now, Sadr and Sistani trying to calm down milineal (sp) protestors...if, my interpretation is correct...
Sparky ... average age of an Iraqi is what...25 ?... the fog's are dead or in underground prisons.
Sparky eman4u55 ... thinking the young protestors got a whiff of Hong Kong rebellion... social media may help our endeavor ?
Sparky ...at last, I see a useful purpose for tweeting, and twerking...
SparkyId have to ask someone above my pay scale...but, I believe Iraq is less than half surveyed for underground resources... Wednesday article about huge gas find... must add significantly to potential GDP...imo...
IQD CALLS Chat Friday Night 10-4-19
Dave just really really really hope these protests this time will finally have some teeth....
Dave so lets talk about whats happening in the real world?
Dave find it strange the news reported all thosse killed yesterday on our news,but nodda from Iraq?
Young_SC Dave hmm interesting
Young_SC I wonder why
Dave direct from Badghdad too...
Dave 38 killed ??????
Dave https://globalnews.ca/news/5990098/iraq-protests-explained/
Matt Dow Jones Industrial Average INDEXDJX: .DJI 26,573.72 +372.68 (1.42%)^
Sparky ...funny. .. now, Sadr and Sistani trying to calm down milineal (sp) protestors...if, my interpretation is correct...
Sparky ... average age of an Iraqi is what...25 ?... the fog's are dead or in underground prisons.
Sparky eman4u55 ... thinking the young protestors got a whiff of Hong Kong rebellion... social media may help our endeavor ?
Sparky ...at last, I see a useful purpose for tweeting, and twerking...
SparkyId have to ask someone above my pay scale...but, I believe Iraq is less than half surveyed for underground resources... Wednesday article about huge gas find... must add significantly to potential GDP...imo...
Sparky ...to be very clear... I'm down with a thousand fils for a coke...at 1:1, would be a buck...
Sparky ...or, 1 IQD...one deenarz... ... approximately correct...
Xyz Abadi joins Sadr and demands the resignation of the government and early elections https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mawazin.net%2FDetails.aspx%3Fjimare%3D67506
Sparky xyz ... that's why Abadi left SOL... correct ?
Sparky xyz ...Abadi next pm...pick up where he left off...
Sparky xyz ...Abadi was also former Finance minister...as well as former PM...
Sparky ...the "Hong Kong " of democracy...very fragrant...and, potentially lucrative...
Sparky ...live the dream...like we have a chance to here in the good ol' USA...
Sparky ... unofficial end of rant...
Crazycrypto seems mahdi is on the run
Crazycrypto mahdi confirmed an iranian puppet
Crazycrypto the people want him gone!!
Crazycrypto we shall see what comes of this all
Sparky Crazycrypto ...Iran has had Iraq in their pocket for almost two decades... just in case they need bank...imo...
sandyf All currency is issued against collateral and in the case of Iraq that collateral is in the form of foreign investment and currency reserves. If Iraq has a billion dollars in a foreign bank, it does not matter what people would like to think, that asset will always be worth a billion dollars.
Collateral for the US dollar can be found in Table 6. https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h41/current/h41.htm#h41tab11
6. Collateral Held against Federal Reserve Notes: Federal Reserve Agents’ Accounts
Millions of dollars
Federal Reserve notes and collateral Wednesday
Oct 2, 2019
Federal Reserve notes outstanding 1,931,285
Less: Notes held by F.R. Banks not subject to collateralization 213,812
Federal Reserve notes to be collateralized 1,717,473
Collateral held against Federal Reserve notes 1,717,473
Gold certificate account 11,037
Special drawing rights certificate account 5,200
U.S. Treasury, agency debt, and mortgage-backed securities pledged1,2 1,701,236
Other assets pledged 0
Memo:
Total U.S. Treasury, agency debt, and mortgage-backed securities1,2 3,767,788
Less: Face value of securities under reverse repurchase agreements 277,288
U.S. Treasury, agency debt, and mortgage-backed securities eligible to be pledged 3,490,499
Note: Components may not sum to totals because of rounding.
1. Includes face value of U.S. Treasury, agency debt, and mortgage-backed securities held outright, compensation to adjust for the effect of inflation on the original face value of inflation-indexed securities, and cash value of repurchase agreements.
2. Includes securities lent to dealers under the overnight securities lending facility; refer to table 1A.
xyz Death toll climbs to 100 in Iraq as protests spread
More than 2,500 people also injured since protests began on Oct. 1 https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/death-toll-climbs-to-100-in-iraq-as-protests-spread/1602753#
chattels Iran's influence seen in transfer of Iraqi war hero
READ IN: Mustafa Saadoun October 4, 2019
chattels Iraq is a complicated and tangled web.
chattels Corruption, deceit, fear and loathing.
chattels Iraqi Parliament fails to convene emergency session to discuss protests due to absence of MPs. Speaker of Parliament meets with 50 person delegation representing protesters & receives demands. Over 100 killed in protests. http://mobp.as/fa6Tp
chattels Amir Abdollahian of Iranian Government: there is a foreign hand in the unrest in Iraq, Zionists & those who protect takfiiri terrorists.
chattels Baghdad Operations Command announced on Saturday its attempt to arrest a sniper targeting demonstrators in the capital. LINK
chattels Sadr said his Sairoon bloc would boycott parliament He and Abadi called for govt to resign and new elections Speaker Halbusi invited protesters to parliament to voice their demands https://twitter.com/JoelWing2
chattels PM Abdul Mahdi continued feckless statements to protestors Said he was committed to fighting corruption and called for reform. Ayatollah Sistani's Friday sermon seemed very establishment & as bad as Abdul Mahdi's Said violence should stop and parliament and courts should carry out reforms. https://twitter.com/JoelWing2
chattels Protest in Najaf broken up by gunfire Governor & police chief said saboteurs infiltrated protests and causing violence Similar rhetoric used last yr to discredit demos in Basra and justify repression. https://twitter.com/DavidMWitty1?lang=en
IQD CALLS Chat Early Friday 10-4-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Early Friday 10-4-19
chattels Iraqi PM Abdel-Mahdi to the nation: we have a choice in front of us today, a nation or no nation. My government will not make empty promises. There are no magical solutions. A government cannot achieve all national aspirations in one year.
chattels This round of protests in Iraq seen as different from previous due to size & demand for fall of regime vs. reform & anti-corruption. Security forces use live fire after water canons & tear gas fail. Security forces prevent storming of Green Zone.
chattels In protests in Iraq, protestors raise pictures of Lieutenant General Sa’idi who was transferred out of the CTService. Pictures of Sa’idi include slogans, “he won the love of the people & the hatred of politicians” & “no place for patriots in Iraq.”
chattels Iraqi PM establishes phone numbers so protesters can call in their demands.
chattels Iraqi Defense Ministry says some unknown infiltrators have fired on protesters & security forces. Accusations that some unknown 3rd party is trying to exploit the ongoing protests in Iraq because of Iraq’s opposition to the deal of the century.
Chattels This is PM Abd al-Mahdi's speech from last night. A few comments to follow.
chattels AAM is clearly proud of what he has achieved in removing Baghdad neighborhood barriers and moving the PM's office. Not many people seem to think this is so impressive.
chattels The most immediate policy response is a new welfare program that will provide payments to families without a breadwinner (min 4). As an economist he knows this isn't going to change anything, & Iraq doesn't have the money for this & everything else.
IQD CALLS Chat Early Friday 10-4-19
chattels Iraqi PM Abdel-Mahdi to the nation: we have a choice in front of us today, a nation or no nation. My government will not make empty promises. There are no magical solutions. A government cannot achieve all national aspirations in one year. LINK /
chattels This round of protests in Iraq seen as different from previous due to size & demand for fall of regime vs. reform & anti-corruption. Security forces use live fire after water canons & tear gas fail. Security forces prevent storming of Green Zone.
http://iraqnewsapp.com/1/Article/2244/186450864#.XZUstSUpCEc …
chattels In protests in Iraq, protestors raise pictures of Lieutenant General Sa’idi who was transferred out of the CTService. Pictures of Sa’idi include slogans, “he won the love of the people & the hatred of politicians” & “no place for patriots in Iraq.” https://www.bbc.com/arabic/middleeast-49921809
chattels Iraqi PM establishes phone numbers so protesters can call in their demands. LINK -
chattels Iraqi Defense Ministry says some unknown infiltrators have fired on protesters & security forces. Accusations that some unknown 3rd party is trying to exploit the ongoing protests in Iraq because of Iraq’s opposition to the deal of the century. http://mobp.as/caPTp
Chattels This is PM Abd al-Mahdi's speech from last night. A few comments to follow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ksbVorGTYM
chattels AAM is clearly proud of what he has achieved in removing Baghdad neighborhood barriers and moving the PM's office. Not many people seem to think this is so impressive.
chattels The most immediate policy response is a new welfare program that will provide payments to families without a breadwinner (min 4). As an economist he knows this isn't going to change anything, & Iraq doesn't have the money for this & everything else.
chattels AAM says "some measures" have been taken to fight corruption but admits progress has been minimal (min 6). After entering office he (unconstitutionally) centralized control of all corruption offices in his "Supreme Council for Combatting Corruption." Power = responsibility
chattels AAM says security forces have "followed international standards in maintaining order" (min 8). I wonder if he is referring to something he learned during his recent trip to China.
chattels AAM: parliament needs to empower PM to complete his cabinet & change some ministers now in office (min 9). Nothing keeps him from firing them himself but with no coalition AAM must beg parl't for approval. Problems w several ministers have been in the Iraqi media for months.
chattels AAM: We inherited all these problems, we didn't create them (min 11). Maliki and Abadi were such failures, I've only had a year.
I don't think this sells bc everyone knows AAM is part & parcel of the political class. It is hard to escape that.
chattels https://twitter.com/UticaRisk
chattels As anti-Iran sentiments rise, protests erupt in Iraq Ali Mamouri October 2, 2019
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-violence-dignity.html#ixzz61NOEJnGI
chattels Iraq on fire as protests spread across the south Ali Mamouri October 3, 2019
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-iran-us.html#ixzz61NOKS3Y9
chattels It is expected that Ayatollah Ali Sistani's spokesman will express the ayatollah's position regarding the ongoing protests during Friday prayer Oct. 4.
But it is very unlikely that Sistani's words will influence the protesters.
The majority of protesters are teenagers under the age of 20. They are not religiously conservative and therefore cannot be influenced by religious authorities.
Rather, they are emotional, angry, looking for fast solutions, raising extreme demands such as changing the constitution, changing the parliamentary system to presidential and replacing Abdul Mahdi with dismissed counter-terrorism head Abdul Wahab al-Saidi.
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-iran-us.html#ixzz61NOhvWw4
chattels The crowds of young protesters seem to not have anything to lose. They move toward the security forces bravely, embracing live bullets, batons and tear gas. This makes them a dangerous force, ready to become extreme easily and quickly.
Although several figures — including Muqtada al-Sadr, who led protests for a long time — have tried to mediate between the protesters and the government in order to calm the streets, the protesters are not keen on any initiative leading them to evacuate the streets.
In such circumstances, the only thing that would calm the street is the resignation of the prime minister, which will become more realistic over time if the protests continue.
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-iran-us.html#ixzz61NOwkzKI
chattels And that's the way that it is from the news that I read out of Iraq on this Friday, October 4, 2019. Have a fine day all.
Whitelions good morning all has you seen that there is no real news coming out of Iraq for 2 days now because of the demonstrations the dume and glume gurus must be going crazy lol with delite and I told you so's
Francis Albert Hello, new here. I may have some potentially useful insights into the massive Dinar count and Kaperoni's argument etc...You all know when he usually comes by? thank you
Zig Francis Albert : It varies as to when Kaperoni visits....but he does read this chat and will see your post.....
Francis Albert Excellent...open to conversing with him
Francis Albert My pleasure. I'll check in from time to time. Hope to chat it up with Kap. I think the reason why so, so many people who have Dinar go through emotional ups and downs is because they have never been taught some of the history, the geo politics, the banking system and deep down are unsure if they did the right thing investing. And thus grab on to hopium and it's hard on them when they do this
Zig At 1:06:......"Francis Albert" "OK. Backdrop, I've studied the financial system for 25 years with a currency historian as mentor. I do understand how Central Banks work. They are all, (less Russia, China, Iran and South Korea), controlled by the people who control Dollar Inc. i.e. big banks, who own the central banks, IMF, BIS, U.N. you understand."
Zig Francis Albert : Does that "Currency Historian" that mentored you have Dinar??
Tebow Francis Albert I've heard the deal Bush made for the oil. I have never seen any proof, but it's been out there for years. Bush did say they would pay for the war. Who knows.
Tebow Also believe they will come out .86 to 1 USD the float in the market.
Francis Albert Tebow..if I was on a game show and "had" to come up with an answer for the new car, I would guess .86 and float the boat as well. And No, my mentor in the world of money did not think Iraq would revalue the currency. I think he's wrong..
Dave they are really ramping up the protests.....getting nasty like we have not seen in yrs
Dave Mahdi figures he cant fix all the problems in a yr........?
Dave same problems for over a decade
Baxter THEY are hopping Mad because they havent produced BAXTERS DIMES
Dave hopping mad may be an understatement.......
Baxter where did you see this dave
Dave Baxter National news last night......searching 4 dinar news site
Baxter oh..ok
Dave 30 some killed yesterday?
Baxter wow
Dave shut down green zone too
4 Oct 19, 03:37 PM Baxter I havent heard a thing about it
Dave tanks in the streets
Dave The head of the State of Law Coalition, Mr. Nuri al-Maliki today called on the deputies of parliament to assume responsibility and attend the sessions of the parliament a quorum in order to find legal exits for the demands of peaceful demonstrators.
Dave LINK
Dave like thats going to gain any traction
Baxter Maliki.... ggeez
Dave 13 days left for arrest warrants.....to be issued against prominent officials......as per protest leaders.....
Dave looking for that article.....from a few days ago
Dave the list of their demands....
Dave BAGHDAD / Al-Masalla: The opposition front announced its full solidarity with the legitimate demands of the demonstrators.
“It is regrettable that the country has witnessed a marked decline in the situation and the spread of popular protests in most areas of Baghdad and the provinces,” the statement said.
He added, “While we call on the demonstrators from our people to take peaceful methods of demonstrating and expressing their protest and the preservation of public and private money and not to allow engineers to enter their ranks to miss the opportunity on their trainees and achieve the desired objectives of demonstrations and sit-ins.”
The opposition front announced today “its full solidarity with the legitimate demands of the demonstrators and we believe that all the declared demands are true and can be implemented with deliberate steps within a short period of time.”
It demanded the following:
1 – We call the Presidency of the House of Representatives to convene an emergency session and the presence of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces devoted to discuss security events and the development of legislative solutions and obligate the government to implement them.
2 – Compensation of the victims who died as a result of the recent demonstrations, whether civilians or security forces, and hold the negligent.
3- Providing job opportunities for our young people by operating factories and factories that are stopped after they are invested and withholding the privileges of special grades and presidencies and turning them into job grades for the unemployed.
4 – The Government to open the door of investment and overcome all obstacles and red tape that prevents the bringing of capital and technology to the country and give priority to the employment of local labor, especially in oil companies and dispensing with foreign workers.
Young_SC Dave Ask Tebow to post it
5 – Referring all those who claim the economic work of the parties and committing the Supreme Council against Corruption to submit large corruption files to the judiciary and names and within a period not exceeding 15 days.
6 – Require the ministries of higher education to operate the degree holders by requiring universities to work on a system of separation of morning and evening.
Young_SC Dave you think the citizens are demanding the GOI to Float the currency
Young_SC Lol OR LOP IT? Per Kap
Dave Young_SC putting the cart ahead of the horse me thinks
Young_SC I dont think kap understands the meaning of a LOP and what it will do to the country
Dave Young_SC never has
Dave show me laws........
Young_SC When your economy has gone to S*** is when the currency is a LOP
Young_SC not sure if Kap understands that
Dave peeps cant understand me......oh well
Dave facing a Coup....RV next week?
Young_SC Dave when things seem at its worst imo anything can happen
Young_SC Citizens are demanding things
Dave Young_SC they just opened up the Green Zone after yrs....shut down again
Young_SC LOP the currency and then let it Float as what kap says lolol i dont think it works like that Kap
Dave i like simple explanations
Dave usually have simple answers
Dave i figure we dead in the water if they cant figure this mess out
Dave not really concerned about lop float etc..........not ready given the current climate imo
Dave not even close
Young_SC Dave well look at it this way Why are they protesting ??
Young_SC Corruption, unemployment, free market, purchasing of power etc etc
Dave Young_SC you do not read the news
Young_SC Dave what do you think will happen if you do not give their demands?
Dave Young_SC before Sunni vs SHia...with the militias
Dave now peeps against the Polititicans
Young_SC Dave yes as expected
Young_SC Based on what they want
Young_SC Politicians screwed the citizens
Dave Young_SC CTV last night 38 peeps killed
Young_SC Dave But Dave what do you think will happen if you do not give what the citizens want?
Dave Sadr is pissed
Dave cancel parliament
Young_SC I dont blame Sadr
Dave https://search4dinar.wordpress.com
Dave check it.......
Dave good news source
Young_SC There was 12 big armed trucks coming out of the green zone the other day there was an article about it
Young_SC I wonder what was up with that
Dave just really really really hope these protests this time will finally have some teeth....
IQD CALLS Chat Thursday Night 10-3-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Thursday Night 10-3-19
Woke AF The Iraqi prime minister will deliver a keynote speech shortly and expect to announce his resignation
Xyz Iraqi PM speech started about 1.47am Iraq time.. location is strange, not usual office. Reminiscent of udnerground speeches of leaders under siege, but unclear where he is
xyz ! People expected him to resign and he comes on to talk about guidelines to prevent violence and blaming protesters for escalations! Man people’s brains are splashed all over the city due to your forces and guards attacking them and you talk about guidelines? #baghdad #iraq foxmulder xyz thanks. .couldn't get it to copy
xyz IRAQ PM SAYS GOVERNMENT TO VOTE ON LAW TO GRANT POOR FAMILIES A BASIC WAGE -STATE TV
Sam I Am Kaperoni: And as the GDP of the country grows so will the currency
Sam I Am It doesn't work that way, Kap
Sam I Am Currency isn't stock
Sparky Sam I Am ...tell us, how does it work ?
Sam I Am The way it works is countries try to maintain stability with their exchange rates. As their country is stabilized and their economy is growing they tend to slowly lower the value to encourage foreign purchases of their exports. This is what Vietnam has been doing for years and their economy has grown exponentially
IQD CALLS Chat Thursday Night 10-3-19
Woke AF The Iraqi prime minister will deliver a keynote speech shortly and expect to announce his resignation
Xyz Iraqi PM speech started about 1.47am Iraq time.. location is strange, not usual office. Reminiscent of udnerground speeches of leaders under siege, but unclear where he is https://twitter.com/AlOraibi/status/1179892642571804672
xyz THIS IS LIVE UPDATE .... https://twitter.com/AlOraibi/status/1179892642571804672
foxmulder https://twitter.com/thestevennabil/status/1179894864848158720?s=09
xyz ! People expected him to resign and he comes on to talk about guidelines to prevent violence and blaming protesters for escalations! Man people’s brains are splashed all over the city due to your forces and guards attacking them and you talk about guidelines? #baghdad #iraq https://twitter.com/thestevennabil/status/1179894864848158720?s=09
foxmulder xyz thanks. .couldn't get it to copy
xyz IRAQ PM SAYS GOVERNMENT TO VOTE ON LAW TO GRANT POOR FAMILIES A BASIC WAGE -STATE TV
Sam I Am Kaperoni: And as the GDP of the country grows so will the currency
Sam I Am It doesn't work that way, Kap
Sam I Am Currency isn't stock
Sparky Sam I Am ...tell us, how does it work ?
Sam I Am The way it works is countries try to maintain stability with their exchange rates. As their country is stabilized and their economy is growing they tend to slowly lower the value to encourage foreign purchases of their exports. This is what Vietnam has been doing for years and their economy has grown exponentially
Dave So There!
Sam I Am xyz xyz I guess I am technically because I still have some dinar
Zig Sam I Am and RamblerNash of Dinar Daily recorded a call in August......If you have interest it can be found at https://www.iqdcalls.com/Iraq_Currency_Watch.html
Sam I Am xyz I'm holding on for the collector's value
John Like the Zim
Dave 42T out .....not going to ever be collectible
Sam I Am I have 50s
xyz Sam I Am how much do you have?
Sam I Am and 250s and 500s they're worthless so I just hang on to them
xyz Sam I Am total
Sam I Am 100k or so
John I traded my 50's in before they pulled them
Dave dont think one can lop off3 zeros off a 500 note.......
Dave Zig Some are extra SPECIAL
Sparky Sam I Am ...but, I m thinking Iraq needs imports for Reconstruction, and a higher rate would be beneficial...
Sam I Am the three zeros are lopped from the exchange rate and reflected in the new currency
Sam I Am $.00085 becomes $.85 and the 10k note becomes 1
Sam I Am oops ... becomes 10
Dave with wheel barrows.......
Dave no rate change though
Sam I Am Dave The rate change is 1200:1 to 1.2 :1
Sparky Sam I Am ...even if it looks, I will make 300. %...
Sam I Am that's how that works
Sparky *lops
Dave Sam I Am oh you know the rate
Sam I Am Dave I know the current rate, and that's what I'm using in my example
Dave familiar with minting costs Sam I Am ?>
Sam I Am Dave irrelevant
Sam I Am money is always being reprinted and recoined
Dave 1000 fils for that coke?
Sam I Am because it wears out
Dave low denoms
Sparky Zig ...all opinions are valuable...
Zig No way do I think that this is a sure thing......
John Right before the 50's where pulled, I exchanged in a mall exchange kios my 50's (100 of them) in for a 5k note so they did not charge me anything for that exchange
John As I knew they were getting rid of the 50 note
Young_SC Dave its obvious that sam nor kap can answer the 1000 fils for coke question
Young_SC Lol
Dave 1 coke costs1000 dinars.........low denoms out.......lop.......no rate change ......would cost 5cents to print each note 10 for coinage....
Dave expensive coke
Young_SC Dave kap nor sam dont understand
Sparky Zig I accumulate while I wait, because I believe that I will still prosper, even if they lop...lol...300%+...
Zig I stopped buying long ago.....
Dave 1 dinar coin????? 10 cents to mint each......1000 dinar for a coke.....100 bucks to mint......
Xyz Zig 10-3-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni I am very confident with all of the economic activities going on in Iraq that they certainly will launch a market economy and receive private investment to rebuild the infrastructure next year. They must open the banking system for that to succeed and float the currency.
Sam I Am Dave How much does it cost to mint a penny?
Dave Sam I Am 5 cents
Sam I Am lol, more like 1.67 but you get my point
Tebow Sam I Am $.00085 becomes $.85 and the 10k note becomes 1..... Seems your math or thinking is wrong.
Sam I Am Tebow I corrected that I meant 10
Tebow On must have missed that
Dave Sam I Am so 100 notes for that coke......i know notes cost 3-5 cents each to mint
Dave gosh 1000 notes to buy a case
Tebow Dave dump trucks
Sam I Am Dave This might be hard for you to comprehend, but central banks don't create policy based on your obsession with cokes
Tebow Sam I Am really
Dave bubble gum then
Dave or better yet 10000 dinar for a beer
Sam I Am Every country that has redenominated as Iraq is proposing has had to absorb the cost of the changeover to the new currency and printing/minting costs
Sam I Am That doesn't change the fact that it's a neutral event
Portmagaland https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wxUGlXp0qTs James Munder talking about Iraq's 24hr curfew
Portmagaland Crazy stuff going on all over the world, it's about to ramp up quickly here. That's when Kim Clement said this will pop.
Young_SC Sparky you also dont need articles from the cbi because a person not from the direct source is the trusted source
Sparky Young_SC ... I accept and contemplate any and all possible outcome..
Young_SC Sparky There is no such thing as different outcomes
Young_SC If you been following the news and know why the protest in iraq is going on you will know why i state that
Young_SC 1 of them involving the currency
Young_SC Purchasing power
Sparky Young_SC ...lol...10 %...20%...100%...1000%...3000%...lol...
Young_SC But yet you believe in false info narrative of a LOP
Young_SC now can you please pull up a article quoting a LOP
Young_SC try telling the citizens that
Sparky Young_SC ...how do you know what I believe ?
Red Hey everyone did you see this..?? Iraqi Minister to make a speech shortly re; his resignation. BQQM https://twitter.com/MethaqAlFayyadh/status/1179869491087511559
Red translated tweet The Iraqi prime minister will deliver a keynote speech shortly and expect to announce his resignation
Portmagaland Red BQQM!
Young_SC Sparky i prefer facts then opinions
Red Portmagaland What we've all been waiting on.... YAAS!
Portmagaland Red https://rsbnetwork.com/2019/09/live-president-donald-trump-rally-in-fayetteville-nc-9-9-19/ That's in Fayetvill NC home of the 82nd Airborne and they waited 48hrs to her Q+ Speak
Sparky Young_SC ..in that case, your chatting with the wrong guy..
Red Riots in Equador streets. India & Zimbabwe banks limiting cash outs.
Red Don't keep your money in the bank. If they go down, you'll never see it.
Sparky Young_SC ..also, appreciate your perspective...
John Red So where do you keep it
Red John I don't have much so I keep it where I can access it without any electronics... Lol
Red Some are saying the Iraq riots are Iranian backed... That wouldn't surprise me with their hard hit sanctions while Iraq goes international the NASDAQ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/least-7-dead-embassies-sealed-iraq-protests-rage-police-use-live-fire
Sparky Red ...you know it bro... chaos...
Sparky Red ... Iran is desperate...
indiana holder How does the Resegnation play with the RV
Red Sparky Yup Beny posted this video of people swarming banks in India. The banks won't allow them to take out more than $14 a day. Zimbabwe banks at $100 max https://twitter.com/Benywilson7/status/1178726319703515136
Portmagaland Red I heard they were Irian backed as well.
Portmagaland Red I googled India banking crises after Benny's video it pulled up 2018, did you confirm Benny's India story?
Portmagaland I couldn't find anything with that date Benny put that video out.
Red I confirmed the Zimbabwe one. Let me take a look. there could be a black out on it.
Portmagaland I heard it's going to be bad hear starting the 15th when those bank repos are over. Got 600 more dimes just in case
Sparky Portmagaland ... Israel going * to the wall vs Iran...imo..m
Portmagaland Sparky And the Saudi Huthis popping off
Sparky Portmagaland ...Yeman
Sparky Portmagaland ...hash d Poppin off...imo...
Red This from Bloomberg I think is a heads up. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-03/crisis-among-india-shadow-banks-pushes-up-funding-costs-overseas but this youtube title speaks volumes.
"The Reserve Bank of India has put limitations on the withdrawal of amount by account-holders of the Mumbai-based Punjab.. I don't understand Punjabi though ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9Af1ck1dyk
Sparky Portmagaland . either way, Iran about to get checked...
Red Found this on India Bank crisis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv8rTPOpiS4
Sparky ...Israel will kick their *..and...we will watch...
Dave Mahdi ......toast//?????
Red Sparky this tweet from Saudis https://twitter.com/rwoafalsoain/status/1179470554073616385 translation " My speech to the Iraqi brothers in Mesopotamia, where Iran is rife with corruption, you have the right to demonstrate and others to clean up your country from the clutches of Khomeini and his followers in the Green Zone: Iran caused you death, hunger, homelessness and destruction."
Sparky Red ...good post...
Red Lots on #Iraq on twitter ....also Watching riots on #Ecuador
Red Dave Did you know Trudeau signed off on legislation letting Canadian banks take your money if a crash were to hit?? He needs to be run out of office...and jailed.
Red Say WHAT?? https://twitter.com/kurdistannews24/status/1179909462116552704 3hrs ago BREAKING news Iraq news update
Iranian Revolutionary Guards surround Iraqi prime minister Abdul Mahdi 's house in #المنطقة_الخضراء green ZONE
Baghdad post report https://twitter.com/kurdistannews24/status/1179907732956016640
#BREAKING NEWS VIDEO - #IRAQ UPDATE situation has gone worse in #Iraq soon after
The #Iraqi prime minister ended his speech thanking the security forces after more than 31 deaths and thousands of injuries around the country ;angry ....I guess he didn't resign??
Portmagaland Red They're called bank bail ins
Portmagaland What Trudeau signed, its law here as well. If you dont hold it, you dont own it.
Red Just found this...guess he didn't resign...uptick in riots https://1buv.com/iraqi-pm-demands-parliamentary-support-to-reshuffle-cabinet-after-deadly-unrest-middle-east-monitor/
Sparky Portmagaland ...gotz to watch your $..
Red Portmagaland We didn't have that before. We barely felt the 2008 crash because of banking regulations
Portmagaland Sparky I've got 24hr security, big safe and guns, I need to get a dog, but wife doesnt want to pick up poop
Red Portmagaland Yup I got the same, but I also have 2 bull mastiffs. They eat more than I do.$$ Lol
Portmagaland Red I didnt feel the 2008 crash because I was in China and I saw the transfer of wealth that our previous administrations handed over to China, so they could live like Malaki.
Sparky .. . tough crowd...
Red Sparky Ruff...
Portmagaland You take credit away from Americans and we are Iraq
Portmagaland Be no difference
Red Portmagaland Canadians are asleep and the UN is parked in our yard.
Portmagaland Only we have guns, Iraqis dont and they getting beat down by a government that sold them out, too
Portmagaland Red UN is here as well Wish they weren't
Red Portmagaland I thought Trump kicked out UN military..?
Portmagaland Red The New World order was planned out before I was born and when Daddy Serf or Serph started the CIA
Portmagaland The pivot to China was no accident
Portmagaland Trumps only been in office for not even three years going to take more time. We've been flooded with jihadis and there's caches of weapons all over the U.S. Think Fast and the Furuious
Portmagaland Plus all those billions of rounds DHS bought, where are they?
RedPortmagaland ....and then we have this... ;frying-pan-smash https://twitter.com/FuctupMike/status/1179957633484234754 I don't know if you can see that link or not... what a messed up world we live in.