IQD Calls Chat With Kaperoni 9-2-19

IQD Calls Chat With Kaperoni  9-2-19

Monday Night:

 madness   hope everyone is having a good labor day

Zig   "Baxter"    "So Guru Jeff says there's no funding in this from Iraq. It's a simple basic currency swap. Anyone care to comment ? I will comment... he doesnt know what the heck he is talking about"......I will send this to Jeff and hopefully he will come in and address it or send me a reply to post...

madness   the way it was explained to me, is the treasury dept. will take our dinar and in put it in there reserves and in turn use that currency to buy iraq oil at a discount price, think he told me it had something to due with the war as pay back for the money we spent getting saddam out of the there

madness   slow in here right now

xyz   madness maybe cause there has been false prophets preaching about LOP

madness   looks like as of late everyone on board this thing is in a 50/50 split

madness   yeah well trying to look at it logically there value is 1190 that is due to us putting sanctions on them, now they want to go international, well if they went international with a low program rate like that they would be the laughing stock of the currency world

madness   heck I know think the imf would allow that to happen, it may not come out at 4 dollar like the gurus are saying but it sure as hell is not going to come out globally with a value of toilet paper, that just does not make sense either

madness   I think about 6 or more months ago, iraq was audited, that audit I think was to get an idea of their value, so I think they already have a value in mind when there currency goes international

Kaperoni   Parliament has a value. It's at 1 to $1 and it's a LOP. lol Reducing 42 trillion to 42 billion.

Kaperoni   There can never be a substancial RV or RI with over 42 trillion dinar in circulation. Impossible for Iraq to support such an amount.

xyz   Kaperoni and float can?

Kaperoni   Everyone on this board should be hoping that come the first of the year, the laws are passed and international investors are lined up to bring money into Iraq to rebuild and support a market economy.

Kaperoni   yes xyz

Kaperoni   If that happens, the CBI can get off the peg and float the dinar to counter the pressure created on the financial system from this large influx of capital. As a result they can begin to reduce the money supply and allow the dinar to appreciate in value.

Kaperoni   That is the only hope

xyz   Kaperoni what's the difference if the floating take an year to 1000%, which you call gradual vs 1000% in a month?

Kaperoni   otherwise its a LOP and no gain...maybe some appreciation but not like we want.

xyz   Kaperoni I understand numbers better than keywords like float, lop, rv

xyz   Kaperoni please explain

Kaperoni   xyz, technically there is no difference but the pace and rate is set by the CBI. I don't know if they could reduce the money supply that fast.

Kaperoni   I think 6 months is realistic at a min.

xyz   Kaperoni according to you, float will be gain in value as a factor of longer period

Kaperoni   huh?

xyz    Kaperoni but you appear to agree that 6 months is enough to accomplish 1 to 1 through floating in 6 months

xyz   Kaperoni please work with me here

directly related to the amount of capital and pressure created by that through the CBI's Capital Account.

Kaperoni   Nothing the CBI does is random so to speculate on a time frame is silly. The rate and pace is directly related to the investment and pressure it creates.

xyz   Kaperoni assuming you are correct, cbi should be able to reduce 42trillions to 42 billions as long as it takes at least 6 months

xyz   Sorry on mobile device

Kaperoni   Many have talked about the billions waiting to come into Iraq. Some even say Iraq will be the next Wild West as far as investment. Time will tell.

xyz   Kaperoni sorry but sounds like you are preaching and not helping me understand

Kaperoni   What don't you understand?

Kaperoni   Think of Iraq's banking system as a slow running facet of water

Kaperoni   as more money comes into Iraq the water begins to run faster and faster...

xyz   Kaperoni never mind ... I understand you hypothesis but you have never explain the time factor.

Kaperoni   when it starts to back up, the CBI takes action to relieve the pressure.

Wilder   A lop would require a new currency?

Zig   Kap, after the float would start the money supply would have to gradually be reduced as the rate increased, correct??

Kaperoni   Wilder, yes and parliament has stated such.

Kaperoni   yes Zig

xyz   Kaperoni finance committee recently said reused coins. Am I dreaming?

Wilder   And we would have to trade in plus a fee

Kaperoni   Wilder, at some point yes, but the CBI stated years ago they would let both exist up to 10 years.

Kaperoni   xyz coins are only useful of they either reduce the currency and raise the value or LOP and introduce them as part of the new notes/coins

Zig   Kap. so there is a chance of a Lop??

Kaperoni   If Iraq did some overnight event, it would not be good for us.

xyz   A float in seconds vs at least 6 months (to make Kaperoni feel better) is a float. Shorter period is what I call rv

Wilder   If if your theory is correct. We will take a beating on initial investment tii whenever matures?

Kaperoni   Zig anything is possible..but I do not think the CBI would do such a thing, especially under the guidance of the IMF as trustee.

Zig    Kap, Jeff (Dinar Investor) recently joined the chat room.....would you be willing to have a discussion with him here?

Kaperoni   Zig, I will talk to anyone who knows what they are talking about.

Zig   So that means no??....lol

Kaperoni   Wilder what does matures mean to you?

xyz   6 months float is still an rv

Wilder   Increase in value

Kaperoni   Zig, I will talk to anyone who knows what they are talking about.

Zig   So that means no??....lol

Kaperoni   Well Wilder as an Investor, 1x or 2x my return is garbage.

Kaperoni   Zig yes, no I do not believe a LOP is coming.

Wilder   I agree

Zig   Kaperoni : I meant No as far as Jeff goes....

Kaperoni   I said it on Twitter today as well, why would Iraq be working so hard to create a market economy and get private investment if they did not plan to follow the IMF directive to float the dinar?

xyz   Kaperoni z will buy you coffee if it float for an to attain 1 to 1

Kaperoni   Zig I never turn down talking to anyone. how long it lasts is yet to be seen

Kaperoni   xyz I dont drink coffee

xyz   Kaperoni ok moonshine

Zig   1:1 could take forever.....

Kaperoni   Zig it all depends on investment

xyz   Zig exactly and Michael theory is ...

Kaperoni   if they come to the party it could go up fast. If not, then it won't

Kaperoni   one thing is sure...Iraq expects 70 billion from private investors in 2020

Kaperoni   We know that because they are building that expense into the budget

Kaperoni   And if they spend it and don't get it, it could be a mess. Wiping out most if not all the CBI reserves

Zig   That would be good.....showing that much interest in Iraq's future......

Kaperoni   It's interesting situation for sure. Pressure is on them

Wilder   At what possible rate would you think for a start?

Wilder   On a float

Kaperoni   I saw today two articles...one said 140 laws to pass before end of year.

Wilder   Guess

Kaperoni   and another said Oil and Gas law is one of them

Kaperoni   Wilder I have always stated the CBI rate is the rate it is. And if they get off the peg and float will be at whatever that rate is at that time.

Kaperoni   So it could start at at 1190 and go up

Zig   No small bump up prior to the start of a float?

Kaperoni   Anything is possible Zig, but you have to keep in mind the rate and pace and decided by the CBI. And they would be foolish to not profit from it all the way up

Kaperoni   Remember, the CBI makes commissions off the sale of currency. Every transaction has a 6 dinar spread

Kaperoni   I believe that is why we have not seen the CBI do anything as of yet. The conditions for the float are not in place...meaning the laws and investment

Zig   I will just say that most people out there disagree with Kaperoni.....right, Kap??

Wilder   We could pull our dinars together and go over and open uo a barbeque pork restaraunt

Kaperoni   Come early next year, if the laws are passed and the budget is passed we will see something.

Kaperoni   Zig most people have a pie in the sky mentality and want some overnight event. In doing so. overlook the facts and realistic expectations.

Kaperoni   People tell me all the time...We don't trust the IMF. Or what proof do we have the IMF is in charge. etc.

Kaperoni   Well my question is..when has the IMF been wrong with Iraq? When has Iraq not done what they IMF asked?

Zig   Ultimately isn't it the CBI that makes the decisions??

Kaperoni   If you cannot prove that they are wrong, then you must accept the directive.

Kaperoni   Zig, yes and no

Kaperoni   Yes the CBI has to do it. But no because Iraq has to follow the Stand By Agreements they signed in exchange for loans over the years with the UN, IMF and WB

Zig   I see....thanks

Kaperoni   Those directives are binding.

Kaperoni   Even when Shabibi was kicked out..the World Bank came out and stated..just because you got rid of Shabibi does not mean agreements will not go forward.

Zig   Kaperoni mostly hangs out at https://dinaralert.webs.com/

Kaperoni   This is a great article that is in the Research Library at DinarAlert...

 http://documents.worldbank.org/curated/en/722151468038689300/pdf/ISR-Disclosable-P113337-12212012-1356109721447.pdf 

Kaperoni   From the World Bank after Shabibi was run out...

Zig   Kaperoni's Tweets and recorded calls https://www.iqdcalls.com/kaperoni.html

Kaperoni   There has been a major change in CBI management with the appointment of a new Governor. On October 14, 2012 an Iraqi judiciary issued an arrest warrant against the Governor of CBI, Dr. Sinan Al-Shabibi. Consequently, the Iraqi government appointed Dr. Abdul-Baset Turki, the Head of BSA, as an Acting Governor of CBI, after the court ruling ordered then removal of Dr. Shabibi from his post. The World Bank has received an official letter dated October 21, 2012, notifying management of such a change, since the CBI is the implementing entity of this project.

Kaperoni   Dr. Shabibi, who is currently out of the country, and more than a dozen other officials at the institution are being investigated for misleading monetary policies, as well as alleged improprieties involving capital requirements for local banks and foreign-currency auctions overseen by the central bank.

It is worth noting that the replacement of the Governor of CBI by the Head of BSA, could affect project implementation, and possible delays with the change in management. Following this decision, the team has met the Iraqi authorities, to ensure irreversibility of the reform program, and smooth implementation of the project.

Kaperoni   Good stuff there

Kaperoni   Following this decision, the team  has met the Iraqi authorities, to ensure irreversibility of the reform program, and smooth implementation of the project.

Kaperoni   Maliki thought he could get away with that crap.

Kaperoni   lol

Kaperoni   He slowed it down, but cannot stop it

Kaperoni   Zig, that is why I said Yes and No. These agreements are binding

Kaperoni   And the IMF became the Trustee of the CBI in Dec 2015 per agreement signed. Therefore, I see the IMF directives going forward.

Zig   Many people will just say that most of what you put out are just your opinions....just another Guru.....

Kaperoni   And if you look at the success of the CBI since Dec 2015 their has been several successes including reducing the spread to within 2%, maintaining a stable exchange rate for over a year, and significant progress on money laundering

Kaperoni   Zig, was that my opinion? I have never been about speculation or opinion. I research this investment 24/7 for the last 10+ years

Zig   You can't blame people for thinking that as they get hit with all kinds of opinions from many people out there.....

Kaperoni   Newbies maybe. But people that know me know I research.

Wilder   Zig it doesn't matter. Who's right when it happens? Your going to run with it and not look back. Thats my plan .

Zig       Wilder : LOL.....True.....

Kaperoni   I got into this not to convince anyone. Just to prove the idiot gurus were liars lol

Zig   I don't care how it gains value as long as something happens!!

Kaperoni   Well hopefully it will start in the next 3-6 months

Zig   That would be awesome....

Kaperoni   70 trillion USD is a lot of potential pressure for the CBI.

Wilder Yep. O s heart attack couple years ago. Im bot getting aby younger

Kaperoni   oops

Zig   You mean billions

Kaperoni   error

Kaperoni   yes

Kaperoni   70 Billion USD

Kaperoni  delete that

Kaperoni   lol

Kaperoni   I will never hear the end of that typo

Zig   The mod will delete it......

Kaperoni   Correction - 70 billion USD is a lot of potential pressure for the CBI.

Kaperoni   when you get old, you slip up once in a while

Kaperoni   well I need to eat dinner.

Wilder   Thanjs Kaperoni

Zig   Kaperoni : ;good-pm

Kaperoni   You all have a good night. Pizza on me tonight! ;pizza;

Wilder   Credit card?

Zig   Thanks, Kap.....now watch for the criticisms......LOL.....

Wilder   A nickel bump I'll be cashed out and gone

Zig   Me too....well a bit more maybe......lol

Wilder   Depending on how the taxes go might have to hold out

Kaperoni   Oh, I just wanted to clarify something...the link to the WB status update was just an example of the binding nature of the agreements. This may or may not have anything to do with directives related to the market economy and CBI monetary policy.

Kaperoni   But those could be under other agreements.

Kaperoni   Ok night.

Wilder   Nte

Wilder   @617659we0|Kaperoni if you can find the article about a new currency in conjunction with the the current bills. When u have time

Kaperoni   Wilder....

Kaperoni   LINK

Kaperoni   Ok night.

Portmagaland   Just watched rethinkingthedollar's chat earlier. Argitina is putting a capital transfer limit of 10k a month out of country. Argitininians who have mo ey are transferring it here.

Looks like the entire world is about to eat some major @#$%. I respect Myladies, Kap, and Skelfa's take as they seem the most practical historically speaking.

However, I choose to see the glass half full and will therefore, defy their logic and say that Trump and the other Global leaders are going to do debt forgiveness, which we have seen indicators with Chase in Canada, the 100% disabled vets getting their student loan forgiven and I believe theres more coming down the pipeline based multiple sources like Robert David Steele, who is on record saying that Trump is going to hydrate from the bottom up.

The debt simply cant be paid back. Then the next move or simultaneously a GCR will kick in. The alternative is scary and all this global misery and debt is the responsibility of a select few that think we are all useless eaters. and it's about time We the People take back what's ours and that's our personal sovereignty. Slaves no  more!

madness   well be interesting to see what the iraq gov. they are back to work sept. 3 tomorrow

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IQD Calls Chat Monday Evening 9-2-19

IQD Calls Chat Monday Evening 9-2-19

Zig   Dave : People with that opinion are free to post here as well....

Dave   never said they could not

Sparky   Dave ... appears flat to me...and we're spinning at 1000 mph...

Dave   Big difference between facts/laws and theories......

Dave   24 hrs a day makes sense

Dave   appears flat to me too

xyz   Sam I Am is ...

Dave   no longer invested?

Sparky   Dave ... gravitational force is a good thing, and one of the four forces known to man...

Dave   Just dont stray to the Dark Side......

xyz   Never as he want you to believe... he is onto naked reserves per boots on the ground

Sparky   ... keeps me grounded...

Zig   FYI: Jeff, AKA "Dinar Investor," is now a member of this chat room....he posts as "Dinar Investor"......his videos may be found at https://www.iqdcalls.com/Dinar-Investor.html

Sparky   ... what a quiet bunch of dinar hopefuls...Labor Day... this may be our ticket out of 9 to 5, Or, as I do it, 6 to 2...nice dream... possibility is realistic...

Sparky   ... never let anyone steal your dreams... Im optimistic, just a waiting game... good things about to happen in our lives...get ready for blessings about to come our way...

Sparky   ...not necessarily dinar, but other aspects... seek, and you shall find...

Wilder   What did i miss?

Sparky   .. Wilder ... nothing impotent...lol..

Sparky   Wilder ... still waiting on the rate change...

Sparky   ...3 day holiday... thought this might be the one...then, I woke up...

Wilder   Ake a nap. And try again.

Young_SC   Coins automatically change the value of your dinar mathematically. Not sure why people have a hard time seeing that. Fils coins do not match up to a 1190 rate

 Young_SCAnd Iraq is going to bring out coins just now for the citizens to have their purchasing power. Like i said this revaluation is for Iraq and not aimed for us. We just hold onto the bills where we exchange once the rate changes

Sparky   Young_SC what if they bring out 250, 500, 1000 dinar coins ?

Zig   Sparky : This whole investment hinges on "What If"......lol

  xyz   Zig I know ... a discussion

xyz   Pleass Answer my question

xyz   And I shall feel great

Zig  Why would a pagan be a member of a church?.....for appearances??

xyz   Zig why you a naysayer that doesn't believe in iqd revaluation be doing in iqd room?

xyz   Appearances?

Zig   Well you can be invested in something but not be totally sure about it....so you want to see what others think about it.....does not mean you are giving up on it but that you have your doubts.......

xyz    Zig absolutely but Sam is not invested.

Zig   I am sure that many people in here do not think that this is a "Sure Thing".......

Zig   xyz    : Sam was invested.....

xyz   Zig that's ok but trying to convince others to sell is like satan preaching to believers

Zig   Anyone can come in here and post.....the Mod does no screening......so people who no longer think this is a good investment are free to say so......

xyz   Zig was ... then sold ... he maybe a rooster

Zig   Until the Mod changes that you will have to deal with it......

xyz   Zig ;crying;

Zig   Do you want the Mod to start kicking out those who are naysayers??

xyz   Zig nope but they should tagged as such

Doug_W   xyz how woulkd U do that?

Zig   It is prettu obvious when someone is a naysayer......

Zig   pretty obvious

Zig   I am not a naysayer but have my doubts.....should I be booted too??...... ;crying;

xyz Doug_W like Sam I Am - naysayer

xyz   Zig not booted but tagged

Zig   Well Sam has sparked some interesting discussions....but I am sure that many would prefer that he be booted out.....lol

xyz   Zig Z is tolerant

Zig   I know

xyz   Zig very few people get into my nerves but I suppose Z

xyz   Dorian weakened

Zig   xyz :    I am not easily influenced by other views, etc.....so someone like Sam does not bother me.....makes me think a bit though.....I have no problem with anyone really.....as long as he/she can discuss things in a civil manner....

xyz If The Debt Machine Was Turned Off, The US Would Immediately Plunge Into Horrifying Depression, New Study https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-02/if-debt-machine-was-turned-us-would-immediately-plunge-horrifying-depression-new

xyzA Category 6 Storm? If The Scale Went That High, Hurricane Dorian Would Be One https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-02/category-6-storm-if-scale-went-high-hurricane-dorian-would-be-one

Portmagaland   Zig Thanks Zig for posting your friend's, Mary, email. Sounds like she agrees with Skelfa's theory.

Deano   @Zig you're absolutely right. I just get tired of hearing someone bash other intel providers and want everyone to believe them.

Zig   Portmagaland : Sure....who knows....we wait.....forever.....lol

Portmagaland   Deano I agree Deno, it's not fun listening to them bash eachother, it tunes me out.

Deano   I agree with no rv overnight. Buttttt !!!! What if Iraq has been working on this for some time now preparing them for this moment ???

Portmagaland   Sparky I like the view from your window best!

Zig   xyz : 9:18 AM

Deano   They may raise their rate overnight but doesn't mean they just decided to do it. I mean when you start dating a woman you're not going to ask her to marry you the next night. You have to work on it.

Deano   @Portmagaland it just doesn't set well with me. That's why I decided to come back. I have no problem calling someone out.

xyz   Zig got it ... thanks

Portmagaland   You know, if banks/fed can essentially create money out of thin air and "loan" it to us so we all can be sharecroppers, why can"t the pendulum finally swing towards us serf?

Deano   Has @Baxter been here ?

Portmagaland   Deano So, you dont believe the derivative theory suppressing the value of the dinar?

Matt   Storm is looking a little better

Portmagaland   Deano I dug a little, on the currency swaps/dirivative, primarily using wikepedia, its complicated, confusing and It's feasible the ball bounces in that direction.

Portmagaland   Of course I dont want ot to

Deano   @Portmagaland not really. Which doesn't mean it won't happen. I'm a firm believer that there's a lot that goes on behind closed doors that we don't know. And I for one will not assume or speculate. But I certainly won't bash another intel provider just because I may not believe in it.

Portmagaland   Deano I'm with you and there is a lot that goes on behind close doors that's not necessarily about the dinar, but nonetheless, could have an effect on its outcome. Here's to the good guys prevailing.

Deano   I don't believe in Kaps theory of a float. Or Skelfla and what this person spews out. What flips my switch is when they bad mouth somebody else and say they're wrong don't listen to them listen to me. I take a lot of intel in. What doesn't taste good I spit out.

Portmagaland   I have a hard time seeing China completing the silk road and making it prosper. China needs to get a handle on HK first and if China mishandled HK and the silk road participants are watching it, might just mimic Trump's decision on the TPP. We were pretty much locked into the TOP, until Trump got elected. So, the Silk Road isnt set in stone.

Portmagaland   I understand and have heard all about Europe and the Middle East pivoting towards China, but what happens when it goes mainstream for all the muslims in the middle east that their muslim brothers/sisters in Chine, the Uighurs, are being carted off to re-educational camps and if they cant be re-educated they become donors in a bad way.

Portmagaland   The Chines government view the Muslim religion as a disease.

Portmagaland   And SandyF, knows this, man.

Deano   Yeah I'm not sure what China's deal is but I do believe it's gonna come back bite them in the you know what.

Deano   @Portmagaland how does SandyF know this ?

Portmagaland   Deano SandF lives there in Goungzhou or Shenzhen, I believe or he does extended business their. I've heard SandF boast about China, in posts awile back

Zig   SandyF lives in Thailand.....

Portmagaland   I wanted to counter SandyF's pro-China stance, but I said not worth it.

Portmagaland   Zig Thailand then, but he seems to be expert on all thing Chinese as welm.

Portmagaland Thailand's not to far from the Chinese cities I just mentioned.

Deano   Seems like this chat room is full of experts lol

Portmagaland   And expats

DeanoI haven't seen Sam I Am in here for awhile

Portmagaland   Deano I was just in, I waited till the coast was clear.

Portmagaland   He was

Zig   Deano : It's full of something, no doubt...... ;step-in-it

Portmagaland   Zig Hopefully, not useless dinar

 Deano   I made it real clear to Sam I Am when I first joined. He respected what I had to say. We started talking about music and had no issues since.

Deano   So Guru Jeff says there's no funding in this from Iraq. It's a simple basic currency swap. Anyone care to comment ?

Portmagaland   Deano Regardless, if you're down with the theory behind this chatroom and have a presence that steals the wond from its' sails, it's just not kosher

Deano   @Portmagaland I agree

Portmagaland   The only reason I half believe the derivative theory is be ause I stack silver and I've seen these same crooks play the dirty dirivative game with silver.

Deano   This is true. But I honestly believe they're working on bringing the crooks down to a minimal.

Deano   But of course we're never going to get rid of crooks. Whether in our country or someone else's. They're always going to be around.

Portmagaland   Deano So, you're a Q disciple then because that game theory runs strong in that circke.

Portmagaland   Deano we will always have crooks you're correct, it's the evil ones at the top that have essentially tially enslaved us all on different levels that need to meet their maker in Satan.

Deano   @Portmagaland not sure what a Q disciple is lol. But I do have my faith and beliefs.

Portmagaland   Deano The Q Team talks like you in this sense

Deano   Yes I think eventually one day they will have to stand in front of God. And he and only he will be the deciding factor.

Portmagaland   Deano We all will

Deano   Never heard of them. Are they a group on the internet.

Deano   Yeah I don't want to get into religion. Just like I won't get into politics. That causes to much hardship. And for the most part, from what I've seen, there are some good people in this chat room.

xyz   Baxter Jeff  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aL6IkiZm8U

xyz   LOP by Mary https://dinarrecaps.com/our-blog/delete-the-zeros-by-my-ladies

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IQD Calls Chat Early Monday 9-2-19

IQD Calls Chat Early Monday 9-2-19

Zig   ;good-am ECLECTIC ROOM!!....LOL....WOW!!....Hey I received a reply to my email that I sent to Mary of "MY LADIES".....she said I could post it so I will in a while.....she will not be coming here...... ;nice-day

Zig   Okay....I am going to post the email I received from "Mary" of "MY LADIES"......many will remember her, and "Nova" from the past as they were very active at one time.....it will take 2 posts......

Zig   Hi Zig..   Thanks for the link but I think I'll pass again. I'm not really trying to be all involved in the dinar stuff again. I guess there were a few articles recently that caused a frenzy and I had an email explosion from long time followers asking me if the nonsense the usual gurus were sputtering was true.

It was actually just easier for me to make a post than write individual emails. I put all these links and examples out few years ago too. In my opinion it's really just a common sense issue.

Some folks have it some do not. Iraq is not in a vacuum and the biggest pill to swallow is the one where we finally have to admit to ourselves that we were just foolish and uneducated and gullible and dazzled by bull**** to think we would be millionaires overnight.

Factually speaking the real money in the dinar has been being made by many gurus and Jesus praying pariahs over the past 16 years. That is one trade I was definitely on the wrong side of..LOL

But i do have a conscience and some moral fiber I guess and do not see myself taking advantage of the unknowing in the name of Jesus.

Zig, the facts remain the same they are in black and white and date back for decades. Those who choose to accept what deleting the zeros mean will be able to make a plan.

Those that do not will be most likely jumping off bridges either way I do not want to debate the issue with anyone. the facts are there the history is there and it will not be rewritten for Iraq.

Thank you for the invite Zig it is much appreciated and I wish you and members well going forward.

Thanks ....Mary

Zig   Zig, one more thing...I am not saying there is no money to be made with the dinar, and I'm not suggesting anyone get rid of it or sell it or whatever.   

I am simply saying there will not be overnight millionaires, the currency has a value and when it is excepted internationally there will be a trade to be made and the current value will be leveraged at an institutional level and a private level for those holding enough. I mean isn't that what is done with currency trading every day?

Currently the dinar sits at 1190 if the value raises against the dollar to even 1130 1140 1150 that is a good day in the currency trading arena.....  Mary

 Zig   https://www.iqdcalls.com/ladies.html A recent submission by Mary is also posted here....

 Xyz      Manar Said, a member of parliament, called on Monday, the House of Representatives to include the file of corruption and waste of Iraqi money on the agenda of tomorrow's meeting tomorrow. https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mawazin.net%2FDetails.aspx%3Fjimare%3D63103&sandbox=1

xyz   Parliamentary: tomorrow's parliament session is devoid of the file of the Ministry of Education https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mawazin.net%2FDetails.aspx%3Fjimare%3D63108&sandbox=1

 Baxter   9-1-2019 Newshound/Intel Guru Mnt Goat Article: "COINED MONEY SERVES INTERNAL BUSINESS DEALINGS" Quote: “The change of currency means that a new currency will replace an old currency, with a fixed exchange rate and the zeros of the old currency will be removed or the decimal levels are moved to the left,” he said. for financial trading to support the national economy.” ...

this article is NOT about moving to FOREX, not yet. So, when they do change the rate it will be fixed. They can not put the program CBI rate on a float. They have told this many times... ;ice-cream;

Baxter   I JUST LOVE THIS ONE: 9-1-2019 Newshound Guru Jeff How is Iraq going to fund this? There is no funding in this. It's a currency swap. Nothing more. It's real simple.

In the beginning you traded US dollars to get dinar. On the backend you're going to trade dinar back in for US dollars. No body is funding a damn thing. It's called a currency swap...there is no "funding" of anything. It's a currency swap. This doesn't cost Iraq a damn thing to do...

Baxter   ITS EASY.. Im just gonna take my 1000 dollars into a bank... and get a million dinar... then go back into the same bank.. exchange it back...and get 3 million dollars..

Baxter   and it wont cost that bank... a darn thing...

Baxter;   ice-cream;

Zig   I hope Jeff returns soon..... :yes:

Baxter   Yes.. I would love to hear his explanation on that one

Baxter   it wont cost anyone... anything... REALLY?

Zig   A conversation between Jeff and Kaperoni would be wild!!..... 'happy-dance

Baxter   WELL... between the Two... I will take Kap anyday... this guy Jeff is pulling money out of thin air...

Baxter   somebody.. somewhere... has to come up with the money...

Zig   "Sparky "Jo ...no doubt a very smart dude... appears to me, he likes controversy"............................Nah, not that smart.....lol.....Controversy?......Not really......I do like diversity, an eclectic room......different views, etc.....makes for a more interesting room IMO.....IMO a chat room filled with only "LIKE-MINDED" people is boring and too predictable and repetitive.....I know that many people will disagree with that......

Wheresmyrv?   She could be right or could be wrong

Zig   https://www.iqdcalls.com/ladies.html A recent submission by Mary is also posted here....

Sparky   Zig ... I recall her and Nova talking silk road..

Larrykn   what Zig posted could very well be the way it will come to be, but even if it did , I don't think it would take that long before we would see were we could be very happy, they have been working on bring investors into Iraq so when they do go to Art 8 that will be the lauch for the currency to start to move and I think it will move quickly. I know a lot of you don't like Kaps theory but he might have a good point, Time will tell.

Zig   SKELFLA : Well Jeff is now a member here and we would like him to return and not be scared away......lol.....would be interesting to have some civil discussions with him, etc....maybe between him and Kap.....

Baxter   larrykn I think Kap is closer than most... but that is just me

Baxter   I dont believe a float would start at 1190...

xyz   Zig can a 1000% change in iqd within seconds gonna have to wait for days or week before making profit?

spankie   if they bring out coins they will have to have more value

Baxter   spankie they may not bring out the coins till the value is there to have them

spankie   or value first then coins

Zig   xyz : Don't ask me....I know less than Baxter.....LOL

larrykn   Baxter I'm not sure about that where it will start. I still remember that article that talked about testing their rate at $1.13 to 122. why would they do that if they were going to start at 1190

Baxter   larrykn I agree... take 1190 and move the decimal to the left... you have 1.19

Baxter   I would love 1.19... sure beats my DIME

larrykn   the other thing is they are talking about bring out the coins, doing that at 1190 would mean the cost of the coins would be more then their value.

Baxter   yes.. thats true

spankie   and a wheel barrow to take to the market

Wilder   And another 14 yeare.

Sparky   larrykn yup, that would be 3 places to the left...

Sparky   ... I was thinking off the .00086, but, that works for me...

Sparky   ...mine would be to the right, and recent article negated that...

 larrykn   like Kap I do have a problem with the 44 trillion dinar out on the street. I can't see them doing that with a rate of a $1. but the removal of the 3 zeros would bring that amount down that would make more since.

larrykn   sence^

Sparky   Zig ... I meant "controversy" in a good way, differences of opinion debated in live chat... your still the best at instigating...and making this chatroom lively...

Sparky   ...if anyone heard from Dave, tell him that I'm out of mustard...

Sparky   ...and Federal Court Law is supposed to be coming up in this cycle of nonsense...

Sparky   ...let's pass the vote on crosswalks...oh, yeah, we have to build streets first... that's right...but, just throw a million USD my way,... I I'll get right on that...

Sparky   ... I'll set up a committee, to set up a committee, to set up a committee...to discuss the details...and, I'll need another million USD...

Sparky.   ..ME mafia...

Sparky   ... endless freaking cycle...

Sparky   ...but, on the bright side, they are one of the most resource rich countries on earth,...also one of the most corrupt...

Sparky.   ..it's a conundrum...

Doug_W   Sparky perplexing TOO

Sparky   ...yup... September should be interesting... :Yawn ...

Sparky.   ..all kidding aside, they are making progress... ;camel ...

Sparky   ... just hope it's in the right direction...

Doug_W   Silver:$18.60

Sparky   Doug_W ... money moving to metals...tells me recession is a possibility...

Sparky   ... stock market record highs, and metals increasing in value...strange days indeed...

Sparky   ...one of them will fall...imo

Doug_W   can't explain it myself

Doug_W   Gold:$1,527.97

Sparky   Doug_W ...feds must cut interest rate by 50 basis points....half a percent,. And soon...

Doug_W   agreed

 Sparky   Doug_W ...trade war, peeps in the know are positioned...ie. Trump clan...

Sparky   ... economics before 101...Pres of greatest country controls pricing...if know which way swing is going to go, the day before... eureka...

Sparky   ... senators come in as millionaires, go out as billionaire s... insider trading is only legal for the corrupt politicians...fact...

Sparky   ... my bet is on metals rising...slowly, until the elections...then, the bottom falls out...then, metals skyrocket...jmo...

Sparky   ...war, boom, bust... economics...

Sparky   ...ride the wave, if savy...

Sparky   ... imo, good time to sell real estate...buy back twice as much in 3 years or sooner...at auction prices...oreo's...lol...

Sparky   Wow, that Dorian is a monster...

Doug_W   4 sure Spark

Sparky   Dave ...did you see anything about the FCL recently ?

Dave   Sparky hcl.....?

Dave   10 yrs of hcl......

Dave   nexrt session

Sparky   Dave Federal Court Law... what you have been waiting on...

Dave   same with Federal courts,,Amnesty,140

Dave   Sparky yes gives the COI teeth to go after the crooks

Sparky   Dave ...lots of recent articles regarding all...

Dave   Sparky been there plenty of times

Dave   show me.......    In the Gazette......

Dave   same rhertoric for yrs.....

Sparky   Dave ... implementation is forthcoming...lol...

Dave   fingers crossed......

Sparky   Dave ... lots more articles, in the last month, than I use to see in years...

Dave   every new session they speak of this.....

Sparky   Dave ... I like 104 talks, and, obviously, Kuwait is knowring at the bit to start this shindig...

Dave   Stripping Immunity is going to be difficult

Sparky   Dave ...Polly let the big fish swim away...

Dave   or repay to avert prosecution

Sparky   Dave ...we all face our maker, one day...

Dave   Sparky wish to see a rv before meeting my maker

Sparky   Dave ..me too, my friend...

Sparky   ...Let's see how the rest of this month play's out... looking good...imo...

Dave   Sparky not yert ready to start holding my breath

Dave   heard it all to many times    esp from Gurus......

Sparky   Dave ... could happen fast...not that many pieces left to place together...

Sparky   Dave ... security and stability...with a fully seated government...

Dave   Sparky getting peeps to use the banks would be good too

Dave   get them to work.......

Sparky   Dave ... Jeff may be on to something...

Dave   do not know jeff

Sparky   Dave ...Dinar Investor...on iqdcalls

Dave   like actual news......not opinion......

Sparky   Dave ...was in here the other day...

Dave   missed that

Sparky   Dave ... I can't understand Arabish, and, no longer attempt to...

Dave   SKELFLA......taken over I thought

Sparky   Dave ...no, just a drive by...may have good knowledge though...

Dave   from CBI...?

Dave   INTEL lol

Sparky   Dave ...so claimed...not yet verified...

Dave   Sparky so INtel then.....Lol

Sparky   ... interesting theories...

Sparky   ...makes this chatroom More enjoyable, with differing opinions...

Dave   there are theories and then we also have laws......

 Zig    @Sam I Am.....Hi....long time no see....been wild in here....lol.....you missed it!!

Sam I Am   Zig Hi

Sam I Am   I just check in from time to time to see if any more have dropped out

Zig   Sam I Am : Did you read all that stuff by that guy SKELFLA?

Sam I Am   just a bit

Sam I Am   Gotta run .... see you guys later

Sam I Am   Good luck to all on the East Coast

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IQD Calls Chat Sunday Evening 9-1-19 Part 2 of 2

IQD Calls Chat Sunday Evening 9-1-19 Part 2 of 2

 Sparky   ...whoever asked about dates on notes, CBI governor signature is on the front of the notes, should give you reasonable time of issue...

Sparky   ...but, personally not sure if that matters...

 Sparky    ... most of mine were signed by Shabbibi... easy to.tell his signature, he signs with a "heart "

Sparky   xyz ... you have gained lots more respect with me, as Whitelions vouched for your knowledge in this endeavor...sorry for any previous disrespect...

 Vizo   Hi Sparky...regarding the print date...that would be me...I see a heart at the bottom of the tree...is that what you are referring to? If so, do you know what the print date might be...? Thanks..

Wilder   Sparky whats your thoughts on all of this? I'm not sure I'm buying into all of this. If this institutional stuff should be. Soneone stands to get the short end of the stck. Just like all this tier1 tier2 and the 800#s.

Sparky   Dave ...saw something about Federal Court Law coming up in next session...

 Dave   Sparky heard that with every session in the last ten yrs

Dave   same with hcl 140 etc

Sparky   Vizo ... only know it was while he was CBI governor...and should be just fine to cash in when the time comes...

Vizo   @Sparky...thanks...

Deano   So where do we stand right now ???

Dave   Deano on a earth that apparently is flat for some

Deano   @Dave good point. Appreciate the sense of humor

Deano   Anyone here care to give their thoughts about the coins they've been talking about ?

Sparky   Deano ...metals cost more to make, and last longer... just don't know the denominations..

Deano   @Sparky but do you think they have to have a new rate before they introduce these coins?

Sparky   Deano ...my personal opinion is yes... historically, they went down to fils...1000ths of a Dinar... leading me to believe the value must increase if brought into circulation ...

Sparky   ... depending on denominations, of course...

 Deano   I also agree with that. The $64,000 question is when will they release these coins. Not asking you in general. Just speaking out loud.

SKELFLA   Sparky if my theory is correct about the IQD being used as the base currency for a derivative for trade along the one belt one road initiative it won't be a derivative in the classical sense. More an alternative reserve currency that the Chinese can use and leverage without the trade having an impact on their Yuan .... I read a white paper given to me by an economist from China that alluded to just such a thing it didn't name the currency but the way it was written suggested it was the IQD they had in mind.

Sparky   SKELFLA ... therefore making Iraq a "donar" country ? As, opposed to rentier ?

SKELFLA    Sparky I always thought that what ever the objective is that bits and pieces have leaked out over the years and the gurus have taken these leaks and embellished them. That's why even the most outlandish statements can sometimes be based on fact. Unbeknownst to the gurus because they are without a single exception too stupid to decipher it.

SKELFLA   Sparky I don't know what you mean..

Portmagaland   Good afternoon all, just getting caught up a little on the convo and citing Bush JR. or any Bush for that matter to give your side of the debate weakens your position based on, "Read my lips .......... Iraq has weapons of mass destruction". You all like how I just merged Sr. and Jr.'s lies into one. Admit it, pretty cleaver.

SKELFLA   Sparky But at the same time I'm pretty sure certain central banks as well as the IMF will need to be involved... In fact I believe they have to be.

Portmagaland   So, with that said, I take any Bush statement about anything with a grain of salt. I do believe Sr. Did not lie when Sr. pitched us on the New World Order, that for sure seems to be playing out.

Sparky   SKELFLA ... I have read numerous articles over the years, that they want Iraq to be a "donar" country, as opposed to borrowing money from whatever entity that is willing to allow them to borrow...ie. world currency reserve...

SKELFLA   Sparky Ah sorry... Yes. Well then that would definitely fit into the theory. I will try to get you an invite into a discord channel ...where the members have verified everything I have said. Interested?

Sparky   SKELFLA sure...

SKELFLA   Sparky Okay I'll get on it... You see I enjoy theorising about the IQD unfortunately too many people here just don't get it. And they will continue to squabble over the most mundane b*... Never getting to the guts of the matter...

Sparky   Portmagaland ...making Col Powell the fall guy...

Portmagaland   Sparky Yep, Powell's not dumb, he was probably compensated

Red   Hello in Dinarland....been a reader of your chat room, but never posted.

Thought you might be interested to know.... the currency exchange office(Canadian), where I purchased iqd in the past and more recently, have not been able to receive any in the last 3 weeks.

They've tried to order from their broker, but it's not available, ...according to their office. At least, that's what they are telling me. Just thought you might want to know that tidbit. Cheers!

Sparky   Portmagaland ...maybe, but lost a lot of credibility...

Portmagaland   Red I'm going to check the the Washington Square Mall currency exchange right now.

Sparky   Portmagaland ...maybe, but lost a lot of credibility...

Portmagaland   Red I'm going to check the the Washington Square Mall currency exchange right now.

Deano   @Red. Appreciate that. But before you get attacked by some sharks is their any proof ? I mean this in respect. I know how some of these guys are lol.

Portmagaland   Sparky Not with the powers that hold all those summits, he probably gained more "street" cred with those folks.

Red   @Portmagaland yes would be curious to know. I still see it sold on US ebay.

Portmagaland   Red checking now

Dave   Red TRY toronto dinar exchange.....

Red   @Deano no proof...besides the receipts I have for purchase.I was trying to buy some more.....you know...as a speculative investment... :)

Portmagaland   Red https://order.ceifx.com/store/washington-square/currency/43-Iraq-Iraqi-Dinar

Deano   @Red. I get it. Just trying to help you out. But at least you can be honest about not having any proof.

Red   @Dave will check that one out. I'm in BC and the 3 exchange franchises were the only ones I knew of that didn't advertise they were selling it.

Portmagaland   That's where I buy in Portland Oregon metro and they still selling. I included the link, so you can check whenever

Portmagaland   They sell it, but they wont buy it back.

Dave   http://torontodinarexchange.com/   

Portmagaland   Same with Dong due to both being speculative investments

Deano   May get beat up for this but it's ok. Anyone here think this could be the month ? And if so, why?

Red   @Portmagaland Thx. US ->Can exchange rate is a little high for my budget though. If the $$ drops though...

Portmagaland   Dave Sweet Dave Canada is selling the Riyal still, good to know, just on case, I have to drive to Vancouver for some strange reason.

Portmagaland   Red who pays more for Dinars, Canadians or Americans?

Dave   Portmagaland pegged to usd

Red   @Portmagaland You'd definitely get more bang for your US bucks

Dave   25%

Portmagaland   Dave We pay less for something, yeaeaeaea

Red   @Portmagaland I was paying $1300 per 1M so about the same on US ebay sites with conversion.....though prices are going UP!

Dave   Red ouch.....

Dave   paid no more than700ish 10yrs ago ish

Red   @Dave Yup. but I didn't have to deal with customs or mailing and I had it in my hot little hands right away Lol

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Dave   live in BC

Portmagaland   1,048,000 IQD for 1,000.84 USD

Portmagaland   At that mall in the link above

Deano   I'm on ebay right now. You can get half a million for $580.00

Portmagaland   I should just buy from my spot and sell on ebay, but ebay taxes so not worth the hassle

Red   @Dave I'm a newbie in this speculative investing... I figured I'd give it a shot. Prices on ebay are going up fast.....possibly due to the news coming out of Iraq and supply vs demand

Dave   Red try the link i sent

Red   @Deano That's US$ add 30% for Canadians

Deano   @Red oh ok. Sorry didn't really realize that. Was gonna say that prices look the same to me.

Portmagaland   I just checked Ebay, funny on one seller, looks like they created a certificate of Authenticity with the computer, made me laugh.

Deano   @Portmagaland I seen that too.

Red   @Dave That toronto link...buy now button gets error on all 3 currencies showing

Dave   Hmmm......?

Portmagaland   Red Bummer maybe the Rial is illegal in Canada after all

Red   @Portmagaland Canada doesn't have sanctions against Iran, but US putting pressure on. I've bought some on ebay...but if they lop well ...I won't be out of pocket too much.

Portmagaland   Silver made a nice jump last Sunday, but it's still showing Fridays closing price?

Deano   So I'll ask this again. Anyone think that this month could be the month that @Baxter gets his dime?

Portmagaland   Deano I dont know about a dime, but a possible answer

Deano   Lay it on me

Portmagaland   If I felt stronger I'd go down in our favor the street to the mall and get another 250k

Deano   I'm thinking about purchasing another $50,000

Sparky   ...only risking 30% tops...imo...

Portmagaland   I'm looking to see what Trumps say on 9/11, there are rumors, but the 4th turned out to be a big letdown

Portmagaland   Sparky 30% tops? What do you mean?

Red   I will try again this week at local exchange to see if they received any more IQD, but from the sounds of the last phone call, they've been cut off.

 Wilder   Nickel im retiring. Comes in at 1 to 1. Might let wife retire

Sparky   Wilder ...lol...

Red   @Portmagaland 3 BOOMS supposedly for Sept 10th. Waiting for IMF to announce gold standard....

Portmagaland   I cant pay off my house at a nickel, but I'd still take it with a smile

Deano   @Wilder I can't retire at either one.

Portmagaland   Red I'm starting to question X22, why hasnt his channeled been pulled on YouTube like so many others?

Deano   Now 1 to 1 will pay off my home, student loans and buy new home. And maybe a new home and truck. Or new truck and new drum set. Can't make up my mind.lol

Portmagaland   Deano 1 to 1 buys me a banana plantation in Hawaii

Sparky   Deano ...new home in western Carolina hills ?

Deano   @Sparky at 1 to 1 no. That will buy my wife's new home here in Florida and leave me dreaming about my log cabin home in the mountains.

Red   @Portmagaland Don't know...could be attached to WH? ...don't watch it that often...too many other research tabs open. Watch Abel Danger.

Portmagaland   Red I watch Abel Danger, but I question their pitch on the Zim

Baxter    DID SOMEONE MENTION MY DIMES????

Deano   @Baxter I admit it was me.

Red   @Portmagaland I question everybody's pitch. Will wait and see.

Deano   @Baxter you say dime I say quarter. We'll split the difference lol

Baxter   This is Fact... 20 dollars of dimes..is ONE POUND.. One Million Dollars in Dimes... is 50,000 pounds... or A Semi Tractor Trailer Full...

Portmagaland   On a brighter not Portland PD raised one Antifa members house and the county DA just pressed charges against 13 more.

Red   @Portmagaland Hope they sweep up the mayor too. Office needs a good cleaning. Lol.

Portmagaland   So, my call scaring the mayor Wheeler of Portland, office and having them send a police officer to my house may have done the trick.

Red   @Portmagaland (thumbs up) Lol

Deano   Wouldn't do me any good to have a run in with any Antifa morons

Portmagaland   I told the cop, get Antifa off the streets and you wont hear from our side again and boom!

Sparky   Portmagaland ... yup, that would do it...

Portmagaland   The cop was a Marine, so we are brothers, I'm sure he told Mayor Wheeler I said get rid of Antifa, we are a national joke because of Wheekers lack of leadership

Sparky   Portmagaland ... social media will get them to whatever place, to do battle...

Portmagaland   With the recent arrest and then the 13 being charged here in Portland gives me hope that the commi's running shotgun in Portland are over

Portmagaland   The Money GPS says the Fed is going to go into negative interest rates, I wonder what that will do to silver?

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IQD Calls Chat Sunday Evening 9-1-19 Part 1 of 2

IQD Calls Chat Sunday Evening 9-1-19 Part 1 of 2

Dave ask google?

Baxter   I will

Dave   answers All my questions.......

Zig   Dave : Ask it if we will profit from this???

Dave   CBI has nEVER stated date or rate...so cant comment?

Dave   Google not GURU....

Dave   Zig CBI has stated when the situation is right......

Dave   Delete 3 Zeros, Restore the purchasing power...now the talk of coins is really all we have to run on.........?

Dave   oh and the going global part.....

Dave   coins at the nominal rate.........?

Dave   ...and no free float.......heard that numerous times

Dave   outside of that what more do we have to run on.....?

Zig   "Vizo" "Hi SKELFLA...what would you consider a "nominal" return as mentioned above?"

 SKELFLA    Zig yes zig

SKELFLA   Vizo something along the lines of a gradual increase no greater than a few basis points per annum at best... There may be the odd surge every few years but nothing earth shaking.

Dave   Zig Wheel barrows and the price of a coke come to mind?

Vizo   Would this return be able to be realised by the average investor...meaning someone like myself with no financial institution connections...I am not very familiar with basis points...could you help me understand what that would mean on 1M dinar so that I can multiply that by the amount I possess...thank you.

Dave   Vizo lol

Dave   SKELFLA Will we ever see coinage?

SKELFLA   Vizo Basis points are less than a percent. For example half a percent is 50basis points. Yes the average speculator would benefit from such an increase but nothing too substantial.

But a derivative that has been engineered to leverage even a 5 basis point increase could make hundreds or millions if not billions in gains...

A derivative can be leveraged and packaged in such a way a it is geared to make huge returns on even the slightest fluctuation irrespective if the currency is internationally accepted or not. Tie the derivative into a trading reserve for something like the belt & road initiative and the potential returns grow exponentially....

Dave   Sounds like KAP?

1 Sep 19, 01:42 PM SKELFLA   Dave no Kap doesn't see the big picture....

Dave   Coins in the picture? SKELFLA

SKELFLA   Despite Markz *** *** *** he is onto one thing there is a major shift in the global monetary season coming and probably sooner than most people think....

Its my opinion that some institutions are going to use some form of a dinar derivative to offset these changes ... What form that takes and the exact mechanics behind how that develops I do not know....

All I do know is these institutions are not in the habit of losing money and their returns are effectively guaranteed.

Vizo   Thank you SKELFLA...I guess its above me...just trying to figure out, based on what you are writing what it potentially means to the average person currently holding dinar...best scenario...as you see it..

Dave   SKELFLA Coinage in the picture?

SKELFLA   Dave Possibly.... I don't know. I suspect they could be as coins are an important part of Arab heritage the prophet himself had his own coins... So I could see a coin coming into play.

JoeSchmoe   this dude sounds more like sandyf than anyone else

Dave   SKELFLA Oh your on the premise no coins

SKELFLA   Vizo I'm hesitant to state a best case for the average investor... It will draw to much flak from the numerous clowns that visit this board.

Vizo   Okay SKEFLA..

Dave   JoeSchmoe No sense in going any further......

JoeSchmoe   Dave am I right

 JoeSchmoe   just here to try and create doubt

JoeSchmoe   when, in fact, it creates more positivity for me

 SKELFLA   Vizo You see Dave's last comments ? Perfect case in point.

Zig   Vizo : I consider all scenarios....that is why nobody who comes in here ever upsets me.....to me this is no sure thing.....speculative.....so I will hold on and wait......

 JoeSchmoe    This guy has responded to questions the EXACT way SandyF responds to them

Vizo   Thank you...SKEFLA...sorry the rest of us can't have this conversation...

JoeSchmoe   Vizo just don't make any decisions on what to do with your dinar based on what this guy tells you

Vizo   Thank you Zig...    Thank you JoeSchmoe...

SKELFLA   Vizo There is one left field option for the average investor .... Its a long shot but something to consider ...remember its a long shot but the recent comments by the outgoing Governor of the BOE made some recent statements that lessened the odds a little bit.

The BEST case scenario would be for the IQD to become fully exchangeable for the EDINAR... Then the average investor could potentially see some significant returns...

 SKELFLA   Vizo no problem all is good. And contrary to what these clowns are saying I'm not advising you to buy or sell dinar. I'm just telling you what I know which is a heck of a lot more than the majority of people on this board... As I've stated before I'm neutral on the long term prospects of the Dinar.

But I am confident of one thing and that is there will not be no overnight RV. Anyone who believes that is just naive ( being polite) or a scammer guru.

Doug_W   SKELFLA there are many of them out there 4 sure

Vizo   Thank you SKELFLA...not looking for alot... understanding this is speculative...

SKELFLA    Vizo very much so... Life is one big speculation. Its people like you who I hope do very well.... Most of the scamming gurus don't even hold currency. Read the court transcript during TNT Tony's sentencing he admitted under oath he held NO FOREIGN CURRENCIES!!!

Vizo   Hi Young_SC....just for bringing his point of view forward...I appreciate SKELFLA's point of view...thank you...

SKELFLA   Vizo You're welcome... And I appreciate your courtesy when questioning me. I hope you do well!

Zig   Courtesy....have not seen much of it in this room of late.....

SKELFLA   Zig Lol very true!

Young_SC   Vizo PMVizoWould this return be able to be realised by the average investor...meaning someone like myself with no financial institution connections...I am not very familiar with basis points...could you help me understand what that would mean on 1M dinar so that I can multiply that by the amount I possess...thank you.

Vizo   Thank you for your patience...SKEFLA...

SKELFLA    Vizo Out of interest what denomination bills do you hold and what year? I don't need to know how much..just the year and denomination

Dave   SKELFLA    i got a boat load of 50s

Vizo   SKELFLA...mine are all 25K...I will look for the year...I have to dig them out...be right back...thanks...

Dave   SKELFLA Will sell them cheap to your investors

Dave   no premium added lol

Truthseeker99   Vizo year doesn't matter

SKELFLA   Vizo I ask because the institutional transactions are very particular about the denomination and print run (year) specifically pre a certain year. May not mean anything but nonetheless its an interesting prerequisite.

Xbruster69   https://www.banknotenews.com/files/tag-iraq.php  check here on note valitity..

Vizo   SKELFLA...thanks..have them out in front of me...sorry...I guess I'm missing where the date is...

Truthseeker99   Vizo date is in ARABIC!!!!!!!

SKELFLA       I can read Arabic try to take a picture of one of your notes... Arabic numerals are very similar to English numerals ...

SKELFLA   Vizo  .. Don't worry too much 25k notes are a good start.

Vizo    Hi SKELFLA...but...I bought the majority of my currency in 2012 if that helps..

SKELFLA   Vizo Not really there is a certain printing period that for some reason is a prerequisite...

Vizo   Okay SKELFLA...I took a picture of one note front and back how do I upload it for you to see?

SKELFLA   Vizo good question... I don't want to give out my email address for these clowns... Let me open a new email address and I will give you that later .... Next time you're on let me know.

SKELFLA    I enjoy answering polite questions by people who have the courtesy of being respectful...

larrykn    GA all   are we talking about our lovely gurus again lol

new   Dave..........agreed. There are other areas to pay attention to as well

larrykn    I found its better to go find your own news and make your own mind up as to what is going on, I don't listen to any of them , good or bad

Dave   larrykn WORDS direct from CBI?

larrykn   well that is one place I read :)

SKELFLA    larrykn makes sense. Seems a logical starting point.

Dave   then cvomes the spin

larrykn   I've learned a long time ago that is the only way to keep your sanity

Deano   @SKELFLA I'm calling you out

Deano   No response???

SKELFLA   Deano Go ahead...I'm waiting

 Deano   I've sit back long enough reading what you have to say. Bashing other people while you're flapping your gums. I've seen a few people asking you to back up who you are and what you spew out. And you've done nothing but send Baxter a resume.

SKELFLA   Deano Not correct, I've offered to provide more on numerous occasions. But to people I can pallet ...

EricB   SKELFLA If you come across additional information regarding the derivatives or the convertibility of IQD to edinar please share. Thank you.

SKELFLA   EricB The derivative play will be a closed shop event only accessible to those institutions who have been behind there structuring and implementation.

The theory regarding covering fiat dinar into EDINAR was just a theory I gave when a poster requested a "best case scenario" although as I stated preciously it became less far fetched after the outgoing Governor of the BOE made those comments recently.

Deano   Provided by email with the promise they don't give that info out.

EricB    SKELFLA Understood, thanks again.

SKELFLA   Deano I'm neither interested nor do I care about what you think. You are just your typical delusional dinarian who has little if any knowledge on how things work on a macro level ... I suspect you have little understanding of even a foot in reality. You will be ignored from now on.

mod   Deano Refrain from bashing and name calling, Respect gets Respect.

SKELFLA    *their structuring

EricB   SKELFLA Do you think US banks would be one of those institutions involved in the derivatives?

Deano   Running away just like you said Jeff was doing. You can suspect all you want. You can assume all you want. But I accomplished what I set out to do. So how about you just disappear or start your own chat room so you can have whoever else wants to be just like you.

SKELFLA   EricB No problem and in the unlikely event I get more info I will post. But my understanding is these trades are earmarked for completion before the end of the 1st Qtr of 2020 at which time I'm very confident they will have been made public ..

And thus there will be no disputing them or the reasoning behind them... The only thing I think that will be up for debate will be how much of a profit the active participants made... But they will be substantial.

Deano   @Mod, I can't and won't respect anyone who won't and doesn't have respect for others in this chat room.  But I will keep the name calling on the down low. At least I'll respect the rules.

EricB   SKELFLA Interesting stuff

SKELFLA    EricB I do think they are ... Maybe not banks in the traditional sense of the word but financial institutions nonetheless. So far I can only confirm the geographic location of the ones I am aware of, in that I have first hand knowledge of and they are located in the Far East, Europe and as I preciously stated ( At least I think I did) I know of a single Israeli institution that is involved.

EricB    SKELFLA JPMorgan Chase would seem like a potential player, they have their hands in everything it seems.

SKELFLA    EricB Saying that I am aware of one American trade which wasn't a bank but very much a major US Institution. Whether that successful transaction was for the same reason as the ongoing transactions involving the other institutions and I can not answer that. All I know is it happened as I had an associate present during the negotiations.

SKELFLA   EricB Yes, but they are a bank. The one US institution I am aware of is not a bank. But if other US banks and or institutions were to be involved I would say JP Morgan would be a good bet!

Sparky    SKELFLA ...hedge fund ?

EricB   SKELFLA Thanks, I'm out. Gotta do some hurricane stuff.

SKELFLA   Sparky No. In sorry I new this would open me up for abuse... I won't add more than I already have... Other than it was not a hedge fund. And it was a direct negotiation between two counter parties.

 SKELFLA   One in the US the other obviously in Iraq.... I'm out.

Sparky   SKELFLA ... Israeli outfit partaking is certainly interesting...

Zig   SKELFLA : You lost me somewhere along the way....lol....what is the main purpose behind all these so-called trades that you keep mentioning??

 Sparky   ...as Iraq and Iran are Shiite brothers...

SKELFLA   Sparky Yes, but the Israelis did not pay as much a premium as the other institutions and it was for a lesser amount. Large but no where as significant as the other institutions.

 SKELFLA   Sparky 100% yes. To the Shiite question.

SKELFLA   Zig Come on ZIG I think I've been pretty clear ...I have theories most of which I have covered here at one time or the other.

Sparky   SKELFLA ...silk road initiative derivative theory also intrigues me...

SKELFLA   Sparky You would be surprised how close KSA and Qatar are with the Israelis..

SKELFLA   Sparky It intrigues me too! Lol

Deano   How close ???

SKELFLA   "A poor mans reserve currency" for a specific economic group !

 SKELFLA   Sparky I have to admit when all of this finally comes out in the wash in the not too distant future and if one of my theories turns out to be correct ... I'm going to enjoy rubbing it in the noses of a few individuals here! Lol

Deano   So I'm going to assume this SKELFLA individual is a woman???

Sparky   SKELFLA ... just not sure how , or why we would be shut out on the play...small potatoes, probably don't even care one way or another...imo

Sparky   SKELFLA ... I don't really understand derivatives...

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IQD Calls Chat Early Sunday 9-1-19 Part 2 of 2

 IQD Calls Chat Early Sunday 9-1-19 Part 2 of 2

madness   it seems as of late, there are 2 sides on the fence, one side says this is going this way and a profit will be made and then there is the other side just flat out saying this is never going to go and no profit to be made, its getting down to the wire this year to find out who is really going to be correct

Zig   Mary of "My Ladies" has been in chat before....I will email her and invite her to return and discuss her latest musings.....

xyz   Zig she got a very strong opinion.

madnessmy friend who got me into this says, yeah there going to delete the 3 zeros, but its going to be IN country only, hopefully for our sake, a dinar equals a dinar

madness   no matter what the rate

Zig   "xyz" "SKELFLA is Sam I Am in disguise"..................Well we could compare fingerprints I suppose.....LOL

SKELFLA   Zig If that's the best they can claim then good luck with that I'm not Sam.

SKELFLA   madness " Drop the ZEROS in country only " ?!?! LOL Now that's a stretch!

madness   or maybe what they are trying to say cause they also word it " lifting the 3 zeros" is getting the bigger notes off the streets and going to smaller denoms

SKELFLA   madness who ever this person is has a sound theory. And just imagine if you have wrapped a ton of IQD into a complex trading derivatives prior to its redomination effectively protecting those holdings from the subsequent LOP... Imagine the return you would get! Think about that!

madness   well lets look at it at another angle, iraq owes US trillions for the war, one might surmise that do you think the US treasury who is holding alot of dinar for oil credits to pay for the war is just going to let iraq just say ok, guess what uncle sam your 25000 dinars are now worth 25 dinars now come get some oil credits.

SKELFLA   madness First of all, there is no such thing as oil credits. That is a complete myth. I have traded in crude for over 10 years as a side venture. Oil credits is a total fantasy propagated by gurus.

Let me repeat that THEY are a myth. Secondly, whose to say the UST (Assuming they hold IQD) which is very much up for debate isn't going to use a similar derivative to hedge their holdings against a LOP...

You see its always the big boys such as the institutions who are always miles ahead than the average speculator and they have the financial tools and mechanisms to leverage their positions in ways the average person can't even comprehend.

Zig   SKELFLA : Have you heard the rumor that President Trump has a lot of Dinar??......Billions.....

madness   well bush did say there are oil credits and he also said iraq oil will pay for the war, I remember that day cause I was cussing my * off and a gallon of gas was at $5.65 a gallon, that was loooong before I ever heard of what a dinar is. plus the CBI has stated they are not going to do a lop, they are going to due a fixed rate and peg.

xyz   Zig hehehe scammer can distort fingers linings ... just thinking out loud

Zig   xyz : LOL....you are something else.....

SKELFLA   madness wow! Literally everything you just posted is a complete myth propagated by gurus. Bush never said that about oil credits and the like! NEVER

xyz   Zig do you disagree with my hypothesis?

Zig   xyz : Ya think??.....LOL

SKELFLA   Zig Yes, which is another guru myth... And even it was true its not a good sign contrary to popular belief Trump is not an investment genius he is quite the opposite...

madness   umm yes he did, cause I was so broke I remember it on tv, I had only enough money to get 1 gallon of gas in my car so hell yes he said that, just thinking about it pisses me off to this day, thats why I posted it

madness   plus how else is iraq going to pay us back for the war, with there good looks?

xyz   SKELFLA are you a genius too like Trump?

SKELFLA   madness Your memory does not serve you correctly. If he has said such a thing (which he didn't) it would be pegged on every dinar board on the internet! Which it isn't ! Be used he never said that.

madness   one thing is for sure, the little guy as is us dinar holders always gets screwed maybe this one might work out or not

SKELFLA    I'm no genius and neither is Trump.

madness   well we would have to take a time machine but I remember him saying that in the news interview while im cussing up a storm cause he said oh gas will be 99j cents gallon, yeah dam politicians

SKELFLA   madness Yes that is true... That's why I believe whether the institutions are doing unfortunately won't translate into a profit for the average speculator...I hope I'm wrong but history suggests otherwise.

madness   well guess thats why they call this a speculative investment worse case we at least would get our money back, as in break even

xyz   SKELFLA here are someone of the OPPOSITE of genius - which one describe ya? goon, dummy, blockhead, meathead, fool, jerk, ...

SKELFLA   madness It's called "selective memory" we all suffer from it from time to time... You could swear he said it but he didn't.

madness   no I have selective memory when im drunk, I was not drunk I was pissed, I know what he said. plus maybe if the dinar does not work out maybe in time the dong will raise in value and we might get lucky there

SKELFLA   As soon as anyone claims Trump is playing 4D chess i discount everything they say from that moment on. In no liberal but Trump is well out of his depth...

xyz   SKELFLA 9-1-2019 Newshound Guru Jeff if they're telling you two currencies will coexist that means they stand valid and legit...it doesn't mean a 25k became a 25...

They flat out told you the two currencies will coexist. That means the large notes are still valid. And the small denoms after the rate change are still valid. There is no other direction you can go with this...because they're different sized notes that have different values.

A 25k note still is a 25k...a 25 note is just that, it's a 25. There is no grey areas...as an example, if the USD value...was $3 then it's very simple. A 25k times $3 is now worth $75,000 and a 25 times 3 is worth $75. It's that simple.

Wilder      LINK 

SKELFLA   xyz LMAO Jeff is so wrong in so many ways I couldn't begin to pull apart his litany of uneducated b*.

Matt   Fake news CNN nuff said

xyz   SKELFLA b*?

xyz   Z is watching CNN --- my mind is no faked

madness   I think there was an article put out by iraq gov. that the notes would co exist for 10 years, you too remember alot of iraq's have those larger notes buried in there mattress so its a transition to get the larger notes turned in and out with the smaller

madness   thats not going to happen over night

1 Sep 19, 11:19 AM xyz   "One day you will kiss a man you can't breathe without and find that breath is of little consequence." -Karen

SKELFLA   madness I still think when this is all said and done people will find out that certain institutions did make significant profits from speculating on the dinar but these profits were generated through the adoption of complex derivatives which protected their holdings from a lop. Subsequently resulting in huge gains. You heard it here first!

xyz   SKELFLA It is illegal to wear a fake moustache that causes laughter in church. http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/alabama

SKELFLA   xyz The fact you reference Jeff is enough for me to discount everything you post. Jeff literally hasn't got a clue about even the most basic economic principles.

xyz   SKELFLA forks luv motivator but sternly reject naysayer - go figure

madness   well im not into derivatives and this does not have to be complex, matter of fact it might be simple, either they devalue our 25k notes by knocking off the zeros or we get what price a dinar per dinar is dont think anyone can foresee what the real outcome will be, one can only hope it works out good for the little holders too

madness   plus you have to remember in the grand scheme of things, there are not that many dinar holders, gee maybe 10 million out of a country with 350 million thats a small percentage in the big picture

Matt   SKELFLA All you say is your opinion and speculation mostly

SKELFLA   Matt correct with one exception I have first hand knowledge of large ongoing institutional transactions involving the IQD.

So I'm in a far better position to speculate on what the end game is. Which is a lot more than the majority of people propagating economical and mathematical fallacies such a Jeff and others when it comes to the Dinar.

madness   funny if I had first hand knowledge of large ongoing companies that was doing that, I would not be in a chat room talking about it, I would be getting inside intel and getting paid big time,

xyz   WHAT IF SKELFLA first hand knowledge of large ongoing institutional transactions involving the IQD and ..

Matt   SKELFLA Ok so you are speculating what is your agenda you sound like you have better things to do than be here he obviously you have some sort of agenda?

SKELFLA   madness I've already stated on several occasions why I'm here... And I do get paid from these transactions.. The INTEL facet is out with my remit.

Dave   Good Morning all.

madness   well I dont watch jeff I try and see what the CBI and GOI are saying and go from there, and thats ruff enough as it is. key points, iraq is out of for the most part all sanctions, iraq wants on the global market, iraq is a very or like ahbai I spelled that wrong, WE ARE THE RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, and last iraq wants to go international. now hopefully with some luck we might get a crumb or two

SKELFLA   Matt if i do have agenda then its exposing idiots on both sides of the spectrum as from Sam, to Kap through to Jeff they all have it wrong some more than others.

Dave   SKELFLA add me to your list

SKELFLA   madness The only thing I can add to that is that I am a proponent of the theory that Iraq has the largest and best quality reserves of crude in the world. Far greater than Saudi and obviously their crude is of far better quality than Venezuela produces. If that helps.

SKELFLA   Dave What list is that dave? :)

Dave   you idiot list

Dave   you

SKELFLA   Dave Copy that !

Matt   No agenda? Well you're spending a lot of time here on your weekend. lol you must have a boring life

madness   lol an idiot list never heard of someone having that before

SKELFLA   Matt I do currently ...I'm in Ecuador closing on a petroleum project... I don't dispute that its boring! Hence my presence here!

madness   and its not just there oil, hell they have a crap load of gold, they can produce tons of wheat, other sectors, if they could just get the crap together, then yeah I could see a profit for dinar holders small or big

xyz   SKELFLA 9-1-2019 Newshound/Intel Guru Mnt Goat Article: "NEWS: ON IRAQ'S ACCESSION TO THE WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION (WTO)." Yes, Iraq will need a currency to join the WTO. Oh – but they have a currency now. But can it be used easily in trade? NO! That is the problem here.

This is why they need to reinstate it. So they DO NOT need to be on FOREX but it sure helps in trading globally to be able to tie into the currency exchanges electronically to get the current exchange rate for the conversion...

xyz   SKELFLA another oilman guru

madness   here is a FACT, not you nor jeff nor any idiot guru, all of us here know how this is going to play out, that could be a safe assumption

madness   the only thing we have to concern ourselves with is making sure baxter gets his dime, he gets his dime we all get dimes

SKELFLA   madness The gold theory if true means nothing... Ask your self why Fiji has one of the most valuable currencies in the world but no resources of any consequence! Why is that ? You don't need to be an economist to know and it pretty much puts everything in perspective when it comes to the underlying theme of why currencies are valued and how they obtain that value.... I'll leave it to you to research.

Dave   all we have are the words from CBI..... nothing more

Dave   no rate or date......

madness   ok well iraq was pegged to the british pound at 3 bucks, iraq has held give or take a 3 dollar value against the US dollar, oops then war broke out, devalue, so it might be safe to say at some point they will hopefully reach that value again

xyz   Dave Finance Committee that's NOT cbi

Dave   Finance Committee runs CBI

Dave   ?

Dave   oh oh missed rthart boat too

SKELFLA   madness Use Fiji as your template its not hard to ascertain why there currency is valuable then extrapolate that to Iraq and you will realise why it's a mathematical and economical impossibility to have an overnight RV of the Dinar, or Domg and don't get me started with the b* about officially demonetised ZIM notes.

madness really thought the CBI is the central bank of iraq and is an independent body

Dave   SKELFLA Not Russia Turkey Mexico Belarus Iran?

madness   I have no zero faith in the zim, but fiji is a small island, iraq is or could be a wealthy power house, so one might not have nothing to do with the other, iraq might be a different animal

SKELFLA   madness You just don't get it... You don't know the basics on how currencies obtain their value... Use the Fiji dollar case study as a reference point... It clearly shows you why Iraq will never achieve even parity with the dollar unless they lop and reduce their MONEY supply. Sorry to burst your bubble but this is macro economics 101....

madness   and as far as the dong is concerned, the US treasury is on there arse for having such a low value on there currency so we will see how that plays out

madness   ok well then skefla we should just say hell with it break out the monopoly board get drunk off our arses and play with dinar and dong notes

Dave   madness bingo

madness   I get the car piece on the board

Dave   i want Park ave and Board walk

madness   umm no dave thats a first come first serve basis and dont be rigging the dice either

SKELFLA   There are certain factions in this world who are on the verge of making some serious money on the IQD.. Unfortunately it is my believe that this "event" will not translate into the average investor / speculator making anything but a nominal return. We will see..

The good news is I also believe this event will take place by of before the 1st QTR 2020. So we don't have that long to see who was right.

Dave   SKELFLA yes in Reno

xyz   Dave Nope --- cbi does not report to finance committee --- Z's opinion   Its like claiming our congress run UST/FED

Dave   SParky you need any Mustard yet?

Dave   xyz good you lost me for a second

xyz   Dave hopefully shall find sooner LoL .... cbi is not run by finance committe

Dave   xyz i agree

madness   well it could go this way, 25k holds is value pay day, 3 zeros off the 25k valued at $3 will then not so good, or we can create a new monopoly game with zim iqd dong and have a kick butt board game, well call it gurus monopoly edition, well have to have more get out of jail free card though

Dave   do not collect 200 dollars......

madness   no dave lol do not collect 25000 dinars

madness   well have to have a space on there it will be kap ave. thats were you lose all the zeros and your bankrupt and have to give up park place

Dave   madness lol

Dave   I knew this Dinart was going to be good fort something

jsst  Dinar Round Table Call -- What happened to the Info and the Call they do ??? - Please Reply

madness   I think one of there members had a heart attack or something serious medical

Doug_W   jsst because some people became mean and demanding "K" suspended them until further notice

 madness   well thats good to hear, they are pretty grounded in this thing

Truthseeker99   xyz I see the MOD is back to selective banning. Rules are only for some. You can get called names in here but can't respond back. Hmmmmm Well if it gets me banned so be it. I don't take * from LOSERS who have no proof. Just another delusional guru who wants to feel important! She'll never be people see thru the b*!

jsst   Bring them back...Bring Them Back... All Information is worth Having.

1 Sep 19, 12:14 PM Dave   With no proof or ammo just yadda yadda....empty words to me

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IQD Calls Chat Early Sunday 9-1-19 Part 1 of 2

IQD Calls Chat Early Sunday  9-1-19 Part 1 of 2

Xyz   9-1-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni I still do not believe the CBI will make any monetary change until after the economic laws are in place and the budget is passed for 2020.

One thing I'm very certain is Article VIII is coming because that has been well laid out in the IMF Art IV Consultations and more importantly Iraq wants to activate the TIFA Agreement with the United States. Freedom of movement of capital is a necessity.

Xyz   The Central Bank adopts the international rating agencies classification of Iraqi banks

https://baghdadtoday.news/news/94739/0

 The Central Bank decided, (September 1, 2019) the adoption of international rating agencies classification of Iraqi banks.

A statement of the bank, "The Board of Directors of the Central Bank of Iraq decided to adopt rating agencies that have criteria (External Credit Assessment Institution) (ECAI) emanating from the decisions of Basel, to classify financial institutions in Iraq."

"Agencies are: Standard & Poor , Moody's , Fitch Ratings , Capital Intelligence, " he said.

He stressed that "the bank will consider requests made by other rating agencies."

The bank required the availability of credit rating from one of the four agencies above for banks operating in Iraq that wish to conduct the following banking operations:

- Fixing credits for exporting Iraqi crude oil through the Oil Marketing Company ( SOMO ).

- Opening government documentary credits up to $ 50 million.

- Issuing and accepting letters of guarantee for the benefit of government departments.

The Board of Directors of the bank pointed out that "this decision is effective in 2020 when banks complete their readiness and receive a credit rating that qualifies them to practice the above mentioned banking operations at any time."

 xyz   The Central Bank approves international rating agencies to classify banks operating in Iraq   https://cbi.iq/news/view/1248  

September 01, 2019   The Central Bank approves international rating agencies to classify banks operating in Iraq

The Board of Directors of the Central Bank of Iraq (CBI) has decided to adopt the rating agencies that have the criteria of (External Credit Assessment Institution) (ECAI) emanating from the decisions of Basel, to classify the financial institutions in Iraq, namely :

Standard & Poor   Moody's   Fitch Ratings   Capital Intelligence

He stressed that the bank will consider the requests made by other rating agencies, and that it will require the availability of credit rating from one of the four agencies above for banks operating in Iraq, which wish to conduct the following banking operations :

- Fixing credits for exporting Iraqi crude oil through the Oil Marketing Company (SOMO).

- Opening government documentary credits up to $ 50 million .

- Issuing and accepting letters of guarantee for the benefit of government departments .

The Bank's Board of Directors also noted that this decision is effective in 2020 when banks complete their readiness and receive a credit rating that qualifies them to practice the above mentioned banking operations at any time.   Central Bank of Iraq   information Office September 1, 2019

xyz   Deputy: Parliament intends to legislate controversial laws with Erbil to zero crises https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ikhnews.com%2Findex.php%3Fpage%3Darticle%26id%3D197949&sandbox=1

xyz   Woman taking her horse on a US plane LINK

SKELFLA   What a coincidence that Dinar Investor(Jeff) posts a video claiming a currency swap is the answer to the big flaw in his theory about how an overnight RV is both economically and mathematically will take place despite it being an utter IMPOSSIBILITY.

He used this after I sighted currency swaps between China and some nations. Wow stupidity has no limits with this guy. This is NOT HOW currency swaps work!!!! This is mind bogglingly

SKELFLA   Crazy! https://youtu.be/h65CEvxzs9g

SKELFLA   This is why this community will never come to a viable theory on the future prospects of the IQD. Because people like this have zero understanding of the mechanics behind currency. Jeff just went to the top of the lost when it comes to absolutely outlandish statements that have zero basis in reality.

SKELFLA   *list... Top of the list! This video makes ** look insightful! Lol

Whitelions   The Central Bank approves international rating agencies to classify banks operating in Iraq https://cbi.iq/news/view/1248

Baxter    Now a cat 5 hurricane....winds 160 mph

Baxter   that will devastate the bahamas..

Doug_W   we here in central Fl really dodged a bullet

Baxter   it has to turn first...im praying

Doug_W   http://www.myfoxhurricane.com/storm3_models.html

 Baxter   winds at 160... there wont be anything left standing..

Doug_W   the two most reliable models both have it off fl coast but Ga and SC might be in trouble

Doug_W   Baxter and its there for almost 48 hrs too

Baxter   thats whats bad

Baxter   Zig... I see Jeff was in here.... I fell asleep.... oh well

Zig   I will send Jeff (Dinar Investor) another email...... will advise him to return when SKELFLA isn't in the room.....LOL

Baxter   that would be a good idea from the way it looks last night

Zig   It was wild....lol....like the old days before all you DU peeps came.....

Whitelions   Baxter Good morning you can help stop SKELFLA tieraid and just shut hi or her up by posting the videos he clam's to have sent you proving everything he clam's he is . Do you have them?

Zig   I think he sent Baxter his resume.....

Baxter   Whitelions he did send me his resume... I havent seen any such videos

1 Baxter   He asked me not to share it... so I wont...till I hear different

Whitelions   Baxter Thanks so anybody can write a resume now we have proof he/ she is just another fake

Baxter   whether true of fake.. I have no way in knowing....

JoeSchmoe   Whitelions Baxter what is this guy claiming to be?

Baxter   all I want is my dam Dime

JoeSchmoe   as indicated by his resume

Whitelions   JoeSchmoe an insider at the cbi clams to have given speaches to them

Baxter   JoeSchmoe I dont have a clue who he is claiming to be...

JoeSchmoe   Whitelions oh yea, I read that :laugh didn't think he was serious

JoeSchmoe   how outragous is that

Baxter   Whitelions really? well.. I have no clue

Whitelions   Baxter yes and so much more lol

Baxter   yes.. I read what went on in here last night...

JoeSchmoe   think about this then.....IF IF IF he IS what he claims to be, then why would he come in here to try and discourage us??? HUMMMMM?

Whitelions   Baxter he clams the cbi has no idea what they are doing

Baxter   Whitelions I hope they do

JoeSchmoe   so either this really is going go pop soon, or this guy is the newest baffoon at this chat

Whitelions   Baxter they do they are bankers first and last

Baxter   Im sure

Whitelions   ok back to work bbl

JoeSchmoe   why would someone come in HERE to gain info on what is going on with this? We are all just specuaators

JoeSchmoe   real info

spankie    skelfla said that the cbi is not run as well as the oil sector

spankie   I believe the person is telling the truth but everyone here last night was tearing the person down- skelfla prolly wont come back- can u blame them? If that person has inside info on this I would like to know---

spankie   claiming to have insider info on large blocks of iqd sales -- hmmm- like to see what pays out

Matt   Remember MR all CAPS skelfla saud it was all hix opinion and he is jut Speculating

Zig   spankie : "skelfla prolly wont come back"...............Oh I am sure he'll be back.....he has thick skin from what I have observed....

Zig   Hi "wdave1"......long time no see.....

JoeSchmoe   I don't believe this SKEFLA person is who he claims to be. Why in the world would anyone in that position come in here? What do we know that he wouldn't??? Us a litle bit of common sense

JoeSchmoe   prolly just some random person trying to mess with people

JoeSchmoe   you wouldn't believe the lengths some people would go to in order to mess with them

SKELFLA   Baxter appreciate you honouring our agreement. My assumption about you was correct. To the others I never claimed to have sent videos to Baxter. I stated that Baxter could contact me and I would provide further verification if he wanted. Pretty simple really.

 larrykn   Think tanks says Iraqi gov't relying on fragile Parliament https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/43865/Think-tanks-says-Iraqi-gov-t-relying-on-fragile-Parliament

SKELFLA   Matt Im not speculating about large transfers of IQD.... I know that as fact. I'm speculating about the reasoning behind these transfers.

larrykn   Head of pro-Iran militia threatens Americans in Iraq https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/43853/Head-of-pro-Iran-militia-threatens-Americans-in-Iraq

Tebow   Anyone can write whatever they want in a resume. Means nothing here when your afraid to show any proof to ones claims. A resume is proof of nothing!

larrykn   Oil: More than 111 million barrels of Iraq's oil exports for The Month of August

Economy News _ Baghdad   Iraq's oil exports for August amounted to more than 111 million barrels, the Oil Ministry said Sunday, citing revenues of more than $6 billion.

"The total oil exports for August, according to the preliminary statistics issued by the Iraqi oil marketing company Somo, amounted to 111 million 706,000 and 151 barrels," said Oil Ministry spokesman Assem Jihad in a statement received by Economy News,

adding that "the total oil exports for the month of August, according to the preliminary statistics issued by the Iraqi oil marketing company Sumo, amounted to 111 million 706 thousand and 151 barrels,"

pointing out that "revenues from these Exports amounted to $6.341 million and $553,000, while the average price per barrel was $56,770."

"The total amount of crude oil exported last August from oil fields in central and southern Iraq amounted to 107 million, 520,000 and 44 barrels,

while kirkuk fields through the port of Ceyhan amounted to 3 million, 253,000 and 665 barrels,

while the quantities exported from the field of Ceyhan amounted to 3 million, 253,000 and 665 barrels, while the quantities exported from the field of Ceyhan amounted to 3 million  253 ,000 and 665 barrels,

while the quantities exported from the field Qayyara is 928,963 barrels, while the quantities exported to Jordan amounted to 3,479 barrels."

larrykn   He pointed out that "the total daily rate of exports was 3 million and 603 thousand barrels, where the daily rate of export from basra ports was 3 million and 468 thousand barrels, and from Ceyhan the daily average was 105 thousand barrels, while the daily average of qayyara field was 30 thousand barrels and the daily rate exported to Jordan was 0.112 barrels."

Iraq exports most of the crude oil from the southern ports of Basra, and some quantities from the northern port of Kirkuk oil fields. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17622

larrykn   Report: Cost of living in Switzerland 200% higher than In Iraq

Money and business   Economy News _ Baghdad   A report published on the website "Nombio", which deals with the standard of living of the countries of the world, revealed that the cost of living in Switzerland is 200% higher than in Iraq.

According to the latest update in August, "the cost of living in Switzerland is 210.42% higher than in Iraq for all cities," the report said, adding that "this percentage did not take into account the cost of rent."

"The rent in Switzerland is 352.35 percent higher than in Iraq," he said.

"The cost of living in the Swiss city of Geneva is 188.04% higher than in Baghdad, and the cost of living in the Swiss city of Zurich is 200 percent higher than in Baghdad," the report said.

Nombio is one of the sites launched in 2009 and is considered a source by many international newspapers and magazines including BBC, Time, The Forex, Forbes, The Economist, Business Insider, San Francisco Chronicle, New York Times, The Telegraph, The Edge, The Sydney Morning Herald, For China Daily, The Washington Post, USA Today and dozens of other websites and media. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17621

larrykn   have a good day all

SKELFLA   Tebow That she did. And she was correct.

SKELFLA   Zig ZIG if you arrange a discussion between Kap and Buff head Jeff I give you my word I will stay out of it. I don't agree with everything Kap concludes nevertheless he has enough in his repertoire to put Jeff and his moronic theories firmly to bed!

Zig   SKELFLA : I told Kaperoni that Jeff is here now....lol....we'll see.....

spankie   SKELFLA hang in there - this is a tough crowd

spankie   Zig that was some chat last night - WOW

spankie   SKELFLA do not sink to lower levels

Zig   spankie : Yup....wild.....lol

SKELFLA   spankie Like Baxter you seem a reasonably rounded individual... You're welcome to contact me offline.

spankie   sam i am and kap get attacked in all the time- why they come back - dunno

Tebow   ;love

Zig   Tebow : Now that's nice....lol

SKELFLA   spankie They are both insightful individuals... But I believe they are equally wrong in their conclusions.

spankie   u r right- we all have opinions- but good contacts – no

Xyz   Tebow 9-1-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni I still do not believe the CBI will make any monetary change until after the economic laws are in place and the budget is passed for 2020. One thing I'm very certain is Article VIII is coming because that has been well laid out in the IMF Art IV Consultations and more importantly Iraq wants to activate the TIFA Agreement with the United States. Freedom of movement of capital is a necessity.

madness   dont know if anyone has read this from iqd chats buts its most dis concerning https://www.iqdcalls.com/ladies.html  if there is any validity to this were screwed. on the flip side the country she refers too does not have the wealth that iraq has and nor do they owe us oil credits.

xyz   madness she never been right ... was preaching that stuff years back ... used to have CC. She is just an opinionated dinarian ... doesn't qualify as guru in Z's book

madness   ok well thats good to know

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IQD Calls Chat With Dinar Investor Jeff 8-31-19

IQD Calls Chat With Dinar Investor Jeff  8-31-19

Xyz   Zig Who is @Jeff.... a guru or deep rooted source?

Zig   xyz : a Guru but more grounded than most.....IMO.....lol

Zig   @Dinar Investor: Is that you, Jeff??

Dinar Investor   It is I.

Dinar Investor   Where's my BFF Kaperoni?

Tebow   Dinar Investor he selling his $9.95 RV notification package

SKELFLA   Dinar Investor Jeff, I have corrected several of your videos which you subsequently withdrew... Yet never acknowledged that they were patently incorrect.

xyz   Dinar Investor Jeff?

Zig   Dinar Investor :Welcome

Dinar Investor    how are you guys

missme   Dinar Investor Kap is a floater....

Tebow   Dinar Investor like your calls

Dinar Investor   thanks

Zig   Dinar Investor This is Jeff who does these videos https://www.iqdcalls.com/Dinar-Investor.html

Dinar Investor   Ive seen Kaps posts for many years and not real fond of his work.

Tebow   Zig duh!

Dinar Investor   doesn't back his claims with facts

missme   Floating the currency is downright silly...

Dinar Investor   Iraq will be structred like kuwait pegged to the SDR basket and the rate will be market driven

Zig   Dinar Investor : I hope Kaperoni comes in sometime while you are here....would be fun....lol

SKELFLA   Dinar Investor But Jeff, you have taken down several videos after I highlighted that they were patently incorrect...do you remember?

SKELFLA   Dinar Investor Try me ! PLEASE! I've already forced you to take down videos after I highlighted them as being completely wrong.

Dinar Investor   Skefla I don't remember, I see to many posts.

Zig   Dinar Investor's (Jeff) videos can be found at https://www.iqdcalls.com/Dinar-Investor.html

missme   SKELFLA Give it up....

Dinar Investor   Skefla your name doesnt look familiar

SKELFLA   Dinar Investor Come on Jeff... You don't remember having to remove videos, blocking me after I pointed out they were COMPLETELY wrong?

Dinar Investor   i block rude people Skefla your starting to sound a little like that

Matt   Dinar Investor SKELFLA Is just speculating and watches CNN

Dinar Investor   your personality is abrasive

Matt   Just Opinions

SKELFLA   Dinar Investor Not being rude... But you must remember having to remove videos recently after a poster highlighted that they were patently wrong...

Dinar Investor   i dont i've removed many rude people and trolls

Dinar Investor   oh the liberal news network

Matt   Dinar Investor corrupt News Network

Dinar Investor   every one has been wrong bro

Whitelion    Zig I cant believe you just did that xyz has different way of expression but her knowledge of what is happening in Iraq is spot on she i well read .

Tebow   Dinar Investor bingo

SKELFLA   Dinar Investor Are you telling me you have never removed a video after posting when you have been shown by me as being completely incorrect?

Dinar Investor   if your so sharp why arent you running your own channel proving everyone wrong?

SKELFLA   Dinar Investor I've proved you wrong on several occasions forcing you to quickly remove videos... I'm happy to start with that !

Dinar Investor    ive removed videos with incorrect information in respect to my followers so theyre not mislead out of respect

Dinar Investor    skefla if your so intelligent start your own channel and prove every one wrong

SKELFLA    Dinar Investor Not true... You have been forced to remove videos after I highlighted you were COMPLETELY wrong!

Dinar Investor    no one has ever forced my to do anything, i respect others your quite ignorant I must say

Zig   Dinar Investor : I knew if I bugged you enough you would come here.....lol.....hope you visit often.....

SKELFLA         I'll start with one example where you claimed that salaries were being cut and you claimed that was a reflection of the coming "RV" I read the original article in Arabic and pointed out it was the complete opposite... Even the translated article was clear. I could go on these have been SEVERAL instances...

Dinar Investor   Skefla i work 70-80 hours a week and didnt have time to read that article in entirety. That was my mistake and thats why I deleted.

Whitelions   Dinar Investor Hi your on point but calling date is bad business

Zig   Dinar Investor : Busy?......Understand......whenever you have time or maybe when you see Kaperoni in chat.....lol

Whitelions   Zig starting crap clling names thats what your setting up

Matt    Dinar Investor You Keeps it simple and mostly real Thank You

Zig   Whitelions : I'm an instigator.....what can I say?...... :naNa

xyz   Kaperoni acknowledged rv

SKELFLA   Dinar Investor Shall I continue ? That's just one example! There are many more! How about the time I pointed out the fact you couldn't tell the difference from 42000 Billion equating to Trillions? That's a major mistake which you subsequently removed... I'll keep going if you like

Dinar Investor   Skefla your so noisy you sound like a narcissit needing to yourself talk

Dinar Investor   Skefla you should join Kaperoni's ignorance club and share intel and be extra noisy together

Sue   Dinar Investor ;hello Like your style Thank You

SKELFLA   Dinar Investor I'm waiting to be shredded ! I respect you only for the fact you haven't monetised your b* yet like the so called gurus but I don't like the fact you propagate utter baseless b* to gullible people who have zero understanding of monetary policy much like yourself.

Dinar Investor    how can you guys stand listening to his noisy insane individual.

31 Aug 19, 09:53 PM Tebow   Dinar Investor we don't

sue   Dinar Investor We can't

Dinar Investor   Im out you guys can keep your idioit's, best of luck

SKELFLA   Dinar Investor I'm still waiting to be "shredded" so far its been one sided... Unfortunately for you , you can't block me here... Time for me to call out your b*!

SKELFLA   Well Jeff kind of showed himself up! Lol I enjoyed that.... Please bring more gurus on... All of them without exception have nothing... When he realised I was the one who had been exposing his b* for several months he ran away !

EricB   SKELFLA, a poster named sandyf suggested that a redenomination would be a bad look for Iraq at this time, as they are trying to attract investors. Agree with this opinion?

SKELFLA   EricB I would agree with that.... But that's not to say they won't do it... But yes it would be detrimental to foreign direct investment

Zig   Dinar Investor : Please come back again.....preferably when Kap is here...

SKELFLA   Zig He won't come back... Lol next! Lol

Tebow   Zig thanks for inviting him,

Zig   SKELFLA : I don't think Jeff scares easily....he will be back.....

EricB   SKELFLA Thanks

SKELFLA   Zig I just counted how many videos he had to remove after I highlighted how wrong he was... 12 videos! I know this because I had to start a new YouTube account each time as he would block me and then remove the videos... Trust me he won't come back... He knows I'm the one who has been exposing his b* ...he wasn't expecting it! Lol love this place. Bring on some more...

Whitelions   SKELFLA ycan you prove that

SKELFLA   Zig But don't worry ZIG I've always wanted to go up against sam... I might agree with him that it can't RV overnight but Sam is patently wring on a number of other things...

Tebow   Zig has no worries

Zig   SKELFLA : Sam will be a formidable opponent.....would be interesting.....he won't back down......

SKELFLA    Whitelions Well I just did ! I reminded him of two videos he had to remove because they were completely wrong ! And he ran away! What does that tell you? Seriously ! Wow

Whitelions   SKELFLA the eternal question wht o you get out of this ?

Whitelions   SKELFLA Thats only proof in your mind not our

EricB   SKELFLA One of the gurus has a guy in Iraq that says he has been asked to keep multiple ledgers on USD-IQD at 1 to 1, 1 to 2, etc over the last couple years. Do you know what the purpose of that would be?

Zig    I do hope Jeff returns....maybe when SKELFLA is out of the room......lol

Whitelions    SKELFLA I want tangible proof not your say so

Tebow   Zig yes

SKELFLA   Whitelions believe it or not I have a huge disdain for gurus who are just complete morons and also for those who sit on the other side such as Sam who can't see that something is in the works ..... Think of me as someone who sits on the fence destroying each end of the paradigm.... I know for a fact something is in play.... And both sides will turn out to be wrong!

Zig   SKELFLA : But we don't want you chasing everyone away!!......Jeez......lol

SKELFLA   EricB Well without knowing more my first response would be b*... Why would you adopt such an accounting practice? Can you elaborate ?

Whitelions   SKELFLA No thank you your no better that okie tony or te worst of the con people both en and women

Tebow   I know for a fact, yet can not provide any facts, delusional!

Zig   Whitelions : Doesn't this remind you of the good old days in here??......lol

SKELFLA   Whitelions lol you going to have to work on your English there buddy I have no idea what you are trying to say...lol

Tebow   Zig I love the good old days. When was that?

Whitelions   SKELFLA We do the news every day and thats ll we do jeff has come the closest to what is going on in years so you keep doing what you do we will keep doing what we do with people like you

Zig   Tebow : A few years ago.....fights daily.....crazy times.....

Tebow   Zig has really?

SKELFLA   Whitelions come closest? Are you serious ? Wow you haven't just drunk the kool aid you are literally drowning in it! Lol

Zig   Whitelions was in the middle of every fight back then.....lol

Whitelions SKELFLA    yep. I drink the koolaid everyday. And. I finely like where we are. You on the other hand hav no clue the longer you type the lmore you show your ignorance

xyz   SKELFLA ignorance has no defense

EricB   SKELFLA Well supposedly he owns a few private banks or exchange companies and was asked to keep these ledgers. The guru is an idiot but the guy with the banks always seemed reasonable. That's all I have, wish I could remember more.

SKELFLA   So far Kap has been a disappointment... And Jeff ran away like a you know what... When it dawned on him who I was...

Whitelions   SKELFLA Omg tell us who you are lol

Whitelions   Are you someone we will know in lets say Iraq politics higher up so we know your the real deal

SKELFLA   EricB Well..... Let's assume there was going to be an overnight RV. Even then you wouldn't adopt an accounting practice that forecasted a RV for transactions that concluded before the rate change. Makes absolutely no sense. There is no reason why anyone especially a bank would adopt such a practice. I call b*.

Whitelions   Bla bla bla

 EricB   SKELFLA It was explainedNever made any sense to me.

SKELFLA   But I would have enjoyed Kap having ago at Jeff... It was too easy... Jeff really has issues with even the most basic economic principles or even general common sense. But at least Jeff hasn't monetised his b* (yet) but he will eventually...they all do.

EricB   SKELFLA The way it was explained is that he kept 2 sets of books, one documenting their day-to-day transactions and another documenting the same transactions at a different rate. Anyway, that's the story. Was wondering if that was a common practice by the GOI or CBI.

Whitelions   New player inthe room

SKELFLA   EricB There's no reason to do that unless you were back in the 1800s where different ledgers were used for different types of book keeping purposes. In this day and age you don't keep different ledgers you can pro actively change things whether as a forecasting mechanism or the like.. Sorry but that's b*. Typical Guru b*.

Whitelions   SKELFLA your spouting bull and when you called out you try to throw people off by attacking others that are not here tostand up for them selfs

SKELFLA   Whitelions Examples please...

 EricB   SKELFLA Well, I'm not sure what

Whitelions   Every thing you have posted here is you versis them and when not inline with you You atttick

EricB   SKELFLA Well, I'm not sure what technology they used by that was a general principle. Thanks.

 SKELFLA   Whitelions What? Goof ball Jeff ran away... And couldn't put together one single counter argument. See the problem with this "community" is you guys have been played for so long you are punch drunk from all the b*. That's why this thing will come and go and none of you will be any the wiser. But as is always the case the big boys will have cleaned up nicely...

Whitelions   mudder Well said

SKELFLA   mudder Great analogy.... Just a shame that it would appear that I'm the only one who is actually making money on the dinar... Hmmmm whilst you clowns keep dreaming about it!

xyz   SKELFLA why are so many gotta anger to you guru?

SKELFLA   xyz Isn't it obvious?

xyz   SKELFLA no worries Tebow luv ya

Whitelions   SKELFLA Ill just be glad when your gone I dont know what your getting out of your bull except maybe interactions in your life but you have no clue how the. momentary system works inside Iraq

SKELFLA    Whitelions Really? Well how about I show you a video where I'm giving a speech to the CBI five years ago in Arabic? I shared it on discord .... Was received very well....

SKELFLA   Whitelions You can barely string together a structured sentence but you claim I don't know how things work in Iraq? Okay good luck with that train of thought...

Whitelions   SKELFLA I'll just be glad when your gone I know what you get outof this bull except interactions ith people because you have no clue how the monetary system works in Iraq no matter how you try to convince us

Whitelions   SKELFLA ok where do I fined this video

Tebow   Whitelions that would be a video of someone anyone could claim to be, pure b*!

SKELFLA   Whitelions you really need help with your English. You should take some extra classes or at least slow down and think a little before spewing nonsensical rubbish

SKELFLA   Tebow Really, I sent my credentials to Baxter and offered more... He hasn't come back yet and said anything negative or to the contrary...

spankie   too much competitiveness and anger

SKELFLA   Baxter has the means to contact me for further verification. I'm old fashioned in that I provide stuff to those who are courteous rather than .. Well just ignorant. I'll come back to the board before the end of the year when its proven than there was an ongoing play on the dinar by certain institutions and was concluded and subsequently the average speculator was none the wiser. I look forward to that day in the not too distant future.

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IQD Calls Chat Saturday Night 8-31-19

IQD Calls Chat Saturday Night 8-31-19

Xbruster69   He added that “currency change leads to greater confidence in local currency and credibility, and when there are a large number of zeros in the local currency people lose their confidence, especially those with transactions in wholesale markets and importers, as they will replace the local currency with stable international currencies such as the dollar or the euro, which deepens The phenomenon of dollarization in the domestic economy, which weakens monetary authority and reduces the effectiveness of policy

Cash https://search4dinar.wordpress.com/2019/08/31/specialized-minted-coins-serve-internal-business-transactions/

Dave   Howdy Folks....

Dave   silver nearing 20.00

Dave   13.00 a yr ago....    Specialized: minted coins serve internal business transactions

Dave   There have been recent parliamentary voices calling for the reintroduction of coins (coinage) and reintroduction into circulation, as well as reconsideration of the project to delete the three zeros from the Iraqi currency, at a time when economists regarded it as part of the great economic reform process in the country.

There have been recent parliamentary voices calling for the reintroduction of coins (coinage) and reintroduction into circulation, as well as reconsideration of the project to delete the three zeros from the Iraqi currency, at a time when economists regarded it as part of the great economic reform process in the country.

Dave   Strategic Plan

Economist Dr. Essam Mohamed Hassan said that “the Central Bank decided earlier to develop a plan to create coins as part of a restructuring plan that requires the approval of the House of Representatives as a strategic plan will contribute to support the value of the Iraqi dinar in trading

“The change of currency means that a new currency replaces an old currency, with a specified replacement rate, and removes the zeros of the old currency or moves the decimal places to the left,” he said. Financial support for the national economy. “

Hassan said that “the coin project, launched in 2004 did not succeed in the absence of comprehensive economic reforms to support the financial value of the dinar in the global market,” explaining that coins will be one of the important intermediate currencies that will be used for trading

“Deleting zeros and reintroducing coins has to do with economic reforms because coins, because of their durability, are longer than coins that are quickly damaged,” he said. In 2004, “indicating that this requires the dissemination of a culture to educate the public about the economic feasibility of the minted currency.”

Delete the zeros

Dr. Abdul Hussein Al-Ghalbi, an economist at the Faculty of Business and Economics, University of Kufa, said: “The process of changing the currency is not limited to deleting zeros, but it can be done by adding a number of zeros or moving the decimal places to the right, as happened in South Africa in 1961,

but the situation Prevailing over the past 50 years in most countries is the elimination of zeros because of the hyperinflation witnessed by many countries, which obliges to add zeros to their currencies in those circumstances, and then get rid of zeros at the end  

Al-Ghalbi stressed that “changing the currency does not affect productivity, as well as that this change does not affect the purchasing power of money, because the power comes from the increased demand for money against the money suppl

Dave   Multiple benefits

“Changing currency and deleting zeros brings multiple benefits,” said Al-Ghalbi. Public”.

He said that “after the change of currency will occur a serious reduction in the volume of transactions with less amount of money, which facilitates all parties to deal with, especially Accountants. “

Dave   Monetary deception

Al-Ghalbi said that “currency change reduces the phenomenon of monetary deception experienced by people with a large number of zeros that are pushing towards generating inflationary pressures. Of inflation Untamed. “

He added that “currency change leads to greater confidence in local currency and credibility, and when there are a large number of zeros in the local currency people lose their confidence, especially those with transactions in wholesale markets and importers, as they will replace the local currency with stable international currencies such as the dollar or the euro, which deepens The phenomenon of dollarization in the domestic economy, which weakens monetary authority and reduces the effectiveness of policy Cash.

Dave      LINK   

Dave     So........?    Bax coin talk........Direct from IRAQ too.....

Dave   just at what rate?;   ice-cream; Sorry for the redundancy then.....

Dave   no one bothered to chime in on this.......I liked it......

Dave   Iraq aint like other countries which faced inflation

Dave   KAp and SandyF will comment soon........ Tebow

Dave   their chunky money currently contributes to inflation so lds will help........accounting durability in coinage........and confidence.......

xyz   Dave shorter link http://alsabaah.iq/13192/-

Tebow   Dave sure they will

Dave   will Tebow what?

Dave   Kap will attempt to spin this

Dave   though this not from cbi....talk of change of currency and COINS.......like it

31 Aug 19, 05:39 PM xyz   8-31-2019 Newshound/Intel Guru Mnt Goat Article: "HOW MUCH CURRENCY IS ALLOWED UNDER NEW RULES TO ENTER AND EXIT IRAQ?"

Quote: "One of the decisions stipulates that "the entry and exit of amounts exceeding (1,000,000) (one million Iraqi dinars) is prohibited even if they have been declared, and the amount is withheld and legal proceedings are taken."

Oops they spilled the beans in this last paragraph of the article…

Now why in heck would they be restricting 1 million dinars when this is only about $1,000 USD? They just told us anything below $10,000 USD is not restricted in an earlier paragraph.

So why then tell us in a later paragraph that 1 million dinars is restricted when the equivalent exchange in only equal to $1,000 USD? To me it should be acceptable if the rate was going to remain as it is today.

Right? Am I missing something here? So maybe the rate is going to go to at least a busk [buck?] or more. Get it? This is one of those revealing articles.

REF: http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17587

xyz:   popcorn

xyz    Parliamentary Finance: The imminent entry of the oil and gas law into the legislation .. And reveal its political dimensions

http://alforatnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=209470   

A member of the Finance Committee revealed that the imminent entry into force of the oil and gas law.

Committee member Sherwan Mirza said in a press statement, "One of the recommendations made by the Finance Committee to the Presidency of the House of Representatives after hosting the Minister of Finance is the legislation of the oil and gas law during the new legislative term."

He added, "The oil and gas law has political dimensions as it is linked to relations between the Kurdistan region and the federal government and the province of Basra and Baghdad and all oil-producing provinces in addition to Kirkuk."

Mirza pointed out that "the legislation of the oil and gas law will address some of the outstanding problems between the region and the center, in addition to addressing the problems of oil-producing provinces;

eman4u55   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCJrvSZHbBw&t=219s

SKELFLA   Portmagaland Hi. Yes you are correct I don't personally own IQD but I do make money from all the transactions involving the institutions.

Although I am not a believer in an overnight "RV/RI" I'm also haven't completely discounted that whatever the ongoing play is on the IQD it will not eventually translate to a profit for the average speculator.

That's why I am curious to establishing the reasoning and strategy behind these substantial transactions. The fact they are covert suggests a lot of things but nothing I have been able to substantiate.

As you know I have theories... But they are just theories. From an investment perspective I'm positive on any & all things graphene related , upstream & downstream. I also speculate on oil rights in developing nations.

SKELFLA   Zig Make it happen ... I know of Sam I Am... Happy to have a convo

xyz   Active shooter in TX

xyz   Multiple active shooters reported in Midland, Odessa https://www.kvue.com/article/news/crime/odessa-shooter/269-17dbe2e0-4b2b-487e-91a8-281a4e6aa3b8

Zig   SKELFLA : Okay.....I let Sam know......Watch for him as he comes in here from time to time.....

xyz   SKELFLA is Sam

xyz   Shooter dead

John   xyz Sounds like it what is this guys agenda? if he is so smart why does he care what we think? Just his Opinion and says he is speculating so are we accually

Wilder   xyz are you saying Skelfla is Sam?

John   Maybe Zig is Sam and Skelfla Ha! Why doe he use all caps i his name?

Wilder   John Lol. What a rat race. I'll settle for a nickel.

xyz   Sam in disguise

John   Wilder I never have counted on anything just diversifying and made since it could happen but have not change anything in my life activities becouse of just buying some

John   xyz Sam is a disguise

missme   @Whitelions When are you guys going to do a call? Straight talking Mike, LJ and the crew?

John   @Whitelions I vote yes to missme post

Zig   xyz : ;eye roll;

Wilder   John wise choices. I could sure use this tho

missme   Sam, Skelfla, Sandy are irrelevant....seriously

John   missme Agree

John   They have an agenda of some sort

xyz   missme names start with S .... aka scammer

missme   xyz Absolutely! They all conjure up their own narratives....

missme   Skelfa admitted his theories and also admitted he doesn't know what the CBI is doing or will do! Why bother?

SKELFLA   missme Because I obviously have a superior intellect than likes of you. And I have nothing to gain from b* and or dreaming up inconsequential trollop.

missme   SKELFLA Superior intellect! Based on what? Your opinions and admission you don't know! lol!

missme   SKELFLA You are misguided my friend! All of us are speculating! You're in the same boat! How are you superior on a chat?!!! lol!

Whitelions   SKELFLA give it up when you have to tell people how smart you are we all know your not .

xyz   SKELFLA name calling is a no no

SKELFLA   xyz Really? Funny that coming from someone who just called me a scammer.

missme   SKELFLA The issues lie with you in your knowledge claims which is no knowledge!

xyz   SKELFLA scammer is a fact not name calling

Whitelions   SKELFLA it's only obvious to you your statments in this chat (because its the only one I go to are all self sirvering and no I cant spell worth the darn lol

missme   SKELFLA You are grounded in your own ignorance!

xyz   SKELFLA hey name calling ought to beneath an all knowing guru jejeje

Whitelions   SKELFLA see there you go you have no idea that xyz is one of the most informed and off the wall people in this room lol but you have not been here long enough to know that .

missme   SKELFLA Who cares what you think....

xyz   SKELFLA dinar speculator not English student

Whitelions   SKELFLA thank you for that ;cheers

xyz   SKELFLA requirements for a dinar speculator, can afford buying iqd. And for misguided wannabe guru, depression

missme   SKELFLA I love the haters... ;;NA_NA

SKELFLA   missme Me too. That's something we have in common.

xyz   SKELFLA is Sam

missme   xyz I think you're right SKELFLA is Sam

Whitelions   where do I get in line for one of xyz idiot troups I'd rather be there than just spout crap

xyz   Z hypothesis: Sam is SKELFLA

missme   SKELFLA You shouldn't be so hard on yourself....

Whitelions   SKELFLA O ya didn't I read back where some one asked you for proof of what you say and we are still waiting

missme   Whitelions He has no proof! Just another hater....

Whitelions   missme I know lol

missme   Whitelions I believe we are close with what is going on...how close? That i'm not sure....what are your brief thoughts?

Whitelions   missme I'm with you I saw xyz posted a good article that just brings hope to my hart I don't like that Jeff has called it but I \have to say he is good on his timeing

mod   @SKELFLA Please read above chat box Refrain from bashing and name calling, Respect gets Respect. etc...

missme   Whitelions Indeed! To all my fellow dinarians: Keep the faith! Don't let the naysayers steal your dream! Prepare to do much good!

Whitelions   missme yes and I have to say First you take care of yourself aitch gives you the power to care of others .

missme   Whitelions Absolutely! Great advice!

Portmagaland   xyz Sam cant be Skelfa as Sam has never said he speaks both Arabic and Farsi nor did same state he went to school in the Middle East. Until someone proves Skelfa is the schill their claiming shelfa to be, I'm taking Shelfa at his word, just like I take you all at your word.

missme   Portmagaland Skelfa said he has aplenty of theories! Skelfa said he doesn't know what the CBI is doing or is going to do! Is that the words you are taking? We are not impressed with his academia!

He said there cannot be an overnight RV and then claimed he doesn't know what the CBI is going to do! That's called self-contradiction! Now wil you still hold to his word???

xyz   Portmagaland have you ever met Sam or SKELFLA? If not, then I assume you are not easily deceived by wannabe gurus claims

Portmagaland   SKELFLA Skelfa I heard Zimbabwe is loaded with Graphine, so the mining companies gearing up to start mining Zimbabwe would be a good investment, but I believe those are going to be Chinese mining companies and when the Chinese are done with Zimbabwe, well just look how polluted both China's water and air is and that's how the Chinese take care of their own home.

Anyways, you said you were a speculator and you came in this chat seeking Kap because you wanted Kaps opinion on the reasoning and strategy behind the those substantial transactions. What were you expecting Kap to say?

Portmagaland   missme I'm just trying to figure out if these dinar dirivatives in vast quantities are in fact at play. If so, I am concerned as every silver stacker knows, this same game has been played with silver and kept the price artificially down.

However, theres going to come a time with silver where silver will break through on it's own and on it's own .... silver through supply and demand will shatter its manipulators because silver has intrinsic value, so this falsehood of silver dirivatives will eventually be rectified, whereas. the dinar is just paper printed up and has no intrinsic value like silver. But, if Skelfie is Sam, then I've been had and that would make Sam the super duper ultra troll, which I dont think Skelfie is Sam as Zig wouldn't let that slide, right Zig?

Portmagaland   xyz I've never met either, Sam I'm no fan of and Skelfue hooked me with his currency dirivative idea because some months back I read in a thread that same concept, so that's two different sources tied to banking that appear to have insight on this dinar dirivative scheme being set up by global bankers supposedly and I dont like bankers for obvious reasons.

Whitelions   omg just let Iraq do what they have to do and stop over thinking it they are going to revalue their money take what they offer when it happens question the spread here at our banks ,depending on how much you have the better the spread they will give you and do the best with what you have .

Portmagaland   I'm a layman at best, I've only been watching financial markets for the past year, prior to that I was your average ignoramus American into all things that truly dont matter. I listen to and read up on a wide range of opinions regarding two things specifically the dinar and silver that's it.

Wilder   Whitelions tell them to hurry up already..

Portmagaland   Whitelions I like your positivity, it's just hard in a world where all we get fed is negativity

missme   Portmagaland When someone tells me they dogmatically knows that there will be no overnight RV and then contradicts that claim by saying he doesn't know what the CBI is doing or going to do, that settles it with me sofar as their credibility lies! That's called self-contradiction!

missme   We don't have to be scholars to understand Iraq intentions....they have told us...those who are listening! Everything else is just fillers because of our impatience!

Portmagaland   missme How do you know a politician is lying, their lips are moving and the people talking from the CBI are politicians on another level. I know what they are saying, I just havent seen the action that will prove what they are saying is true.

It does appear the dust might settle this coming month regarding our venture. I just hope if it doesnt go our way that silver and gold dont take off and we're priced out after we get our money back from our dinar. They say prepare for the worst and hope for the best, while Bad Santa said poop in one hand and wish in the other and tell him what fills up first.

missme   Portmagaland You sound like a reasonable person...in all seriousness, do you really think the CBI is going to show their hand to speculators concerning their currency? But I do know the likes of Skelfa who comes in here to dissuade those of us who do believe!

And when someone makes so-called knowledge claims that are contradictory, I'm quick to cok an eyebrow at what is said! I'm not drinking his Kool-aid (I prefer orange) and nonsensical claims! Neither so you! Enjoy the ride my friend! And keep hope alive!

Portmagaland   missme I dont believe the CBI will show their hand and I believe it will happen, but in a way none of us saw coming.

SKELFLA   missme I don't know why I bother responding to really stupid statements... But would you claim someone was contradicting themselves if they said they don't know what Trump will do tomorrow but they do know he won't grow wings and fly to the moon as being contradicting?

missme   SKELFLA And that is suppose to be analogous with what you claimed? You are steep into foolishness!

missme   Portmagaland You may be right! And then it may happen just like we thought! Does it really matter?

SKELFLA   Portmagaland The world is not short of graphene so miners may not be the best play.. There is a few miners who have adopted some vertical integration into their business models including R&D. I find those the most interesting.

SKELFLA   missme That's exactly the same thing. There are things in life called a statistical improbabilities ... An overnight RV goes even further its a mathematical & economical IMPOSSIBILITY. You also claim I said I didn't know what the CBI was going to do...

Not correct... I stated the CBI doesn't even know what they are going to do. They are in disarray ...have been for many years. You haven't worked in Iraq or even the ME. I have.

SKELFLA   Portmagaland Think of having the foresight to invest in plastic companies in the 1950's which grew to become conglomerates in less than a decade. I believe that to be the same opportunity we find now with graphene but to a factor of 10.

Zig   Please don't take those kinds of posts by "XYZ" seriously.....LOL....She likes to play games.....Once wrote that Kaperoni and I were the same person......lol.....I highly doubt that Sam and SKELFA are the same person.....lol.....From what I know about Sam he has no time to play those kinds of games.....

SKELFLA   I'm not Sam... I can assure of that.

Zig   LOL

missme   SKELFLA Listen to your rhetoric! "Statistical improbabilities" Because you say so? Mathematical & economical impossibilities! Because you say so? Who are you to make such dogmatic claims!

You do not know what you think you know! It is all conjecture on your part! And you have the unmitigated gall to call out those who do believe! You did claim you didn't know what the CBI was doing or going to do! Check the record! And now, of all things, you calim the CBI does not know what they are going to do!

That is an incredible, unbelievable claim! Do you think these men and women over there are a bunch of ignoramuses? Seriously! So, according to your logic, if a person hasn't worked in Iraq or the ME, then they cannot listen to Iraq and its intentions! How absurd! Your credibility is flawed and shot!

SKELFLA   missme Yes, because I have had and continue to have contact with senior people both in the CBI, Ministry of Finance and the Oil Ministry and a few banks and financial institutions in Iraq and I can say with complete confidence that they are poorly managed (being polite) And nepotism continues to rot away at their core.

The oil ministry is a bit of an anomaly as it has been and continue to be well run in comparison to other industries and institutions in Iraq.

I suspect that is due to the fact that with the post war power change from Sunni to Shia for some reason the Sunni fractions retained most of the important positions in the oil ministry thus they were able to maintain semblance of normality..

Tebow   missme let it go, just another worthless guru seeking attention

missme   SKELFLA And?

SKELFLA   missme will I think I've been quite clear... If you can't see that then I suggest you go back to your fantasy world. Where Trump grows wings and flies to the moon.

missme   Tebow That's why I'm calling him out! I'm tired of people coming in here spewing their dogmatic views....It's one thing to give your honest opinion; it's another to demean those who do believe....

SKELFLA   missme Go ahead and believe! Fly fly away! Lol

missme   SKELFLA Right back where we were....you have no proof! Everything you claim and say is pointless!

SKELFLA   missme Actually I began to send Baxter some proof... But I was invited to a discord server where I have sent proof you would not believe! With people who have been extremely appreciative. Genuinely educated and thoughtful people.

missme   SKELFLA What is your agenda? You said you came here to engage Kap...well, you were not satisfied with his conclusions...now you're left with dinarians who do believe in this....so what's your point?

missme   SKELFLA Proof of WHAT??!!! lol!

SKELFLA   My point has been clear from the start...

SKELFLA    missme Proof of everything I have claimed from the start on this thread.

Missme    SKELFLA   You proof was you do not know what the CBI is doing or going to do! It's in print!

xyz   SKELFLA evening

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IQD Calls Chat Early Saturday 8-31-19

IQD Calls Chat Early Saturday 8-31-19

Doug_W   Silver:$18.46

Xyz   Parliamentary Economic: Kurdistan got the highest percentage in its history of the budget

The Committee on Economy and Investment Alnababip, on Saturday, to exceed the share of the Kurdistan region in the federal budget for the current year more than 17%, indicating that the region exceeded its highest share of history .

Committee member Nada Shaker Jawdat said in a statement followed by 'orbit' “The budget ended without Baghdad getting any financial resource from Erbil. Despite the prior agreement, which makes the share of Kurdistan rise to more than 17% of the federal budget .

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.almadarnews.org%2Findex.php%3Fpage%3Darticle%26id%3D64333&sandbox=1

xyz   US official: Israeli attacks may lead to the expulsion of our troops from Iraq

http://www.almadarnews.org/index.php?page=article&id=64321  

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Recent Israeli attacks on Iraq may lead to the expulsion of US troops from Iraq, a US official warned on Saturday, in a move that shows how divided Washington and Tel Aviv are.

"Israel is escalating through strikes and such attacks may lead to the expulsion of US troops in Iraq," the English-language Times of Israel said in a report.

"The US revelations point to an internal debate between military officials who are directly confronted with the fallout of such strikes and hawks in the Trump administration - who support the most aggressive policy of fighting Tehran's regional influence," the newspaper said, noting that "US officials acknowledge Israel's involvement in air strikes."

In Iraq, after a short silence and denial of US responsibility for these strikes, is linked to American frustration with the actions of Tel Aviv.

"Iraq is not Syria, where Israel has carried out hundreds of airstrikes since 2011. In Iraq, US forces could become targets of resistance factions. If this happens and the Trump administration decides to withdraw its troops from Iraq, this step will create a vacuum that will likely fill it." Forces less interested in Israeli interests. ”

"Despite the tough words of the Pentagon statement in which it affirmed its support for Iraq's sovereignty, the Middle East analyst and the former Zionist Union, Ksenia Svetlova, rejected the possibility that the US statement would be a condemnation of the Israeli raids. ”

She added that “Washington fully understands Israeli concerns and has seen the Pentagon statement as a perfect statement to please the Iraqis, not a real denunciation of Israeli actions.”

foxmulder   xyz well a bit of good news! The Kurds must be happy..

 foxmulder   Doug_W hey there how is everything

SKELFLA   Portmagaland seems we have someone who has a valid theory.

Baxter   Good Morning Dinar World.... another weekend is upon us.

Baxter   8-31-2019 Newshound/Intel Guru Mnt Goat I have to tell everyone right now it appears that everything is on track to move ahead with the project to delete the zeros and launch the smaller category coins and maybe some notes too. We are about to move to the next and final stage... ;ice-cream;

foxmulder   Baxter final stage again? LOL

Baxter   yep... wonder how many of those there are

foxmulder   Baxter we wont benefit from it BAX even if it does get finished.. so says a few people

Baxter   I dont believe that... sorry

Baxter   currency is currency

foxmulder   It's not for us little people

Baxter   if its international... its just like any other international currency

foxmulder   Not according to some !! But hey I agree with ya ...

Baxter   it will be exchanged just like any other currency... problem is... banks dont have to exchange it...

Baxter   some chase banks... exchange foreign currency.. some dont

foxmulder   Whatever happens nothing we can control

Baxter   you are right there..

Portmagaland   Doug_W Last weekend silver stayed the same until late Sunday afternoon West Coast time. We have a holiday on Monday, so maybe they wont update the price until late Monday, however, the rest of the world doesn't havent a holiday Monday, so maybe we see some price action late Sunday afternoon again.

Portmagaland   If it goes in the same direction like last Sunday, itll go over $19 or who really knows, they can manipulate back under $17 if they wanted. I just hope more our brothers/sisters in Asia sell more gold to buy silver.

Portmagaland   Either way if negativecinterest rates are going to be a common thread globally, as well as, 50 to 100 year bonds, while the 2 year bonds are outpacing the 7 and 10 year bonds, plus once the sheep figure out that inflation isxwipping out their meager interest rates earnings in savings at their banks, IMO people will be looking for a place to park their money and metals are an oldie, but a goodie.

Portmagaland   I'm still hesitant to pull the trigger on mining stocks, but they seem to be a big discussion right now

Portmagaland   SKELFLA I'm curious, with your knowledge, what's your play? We know you aren't in the dinar as you stated such, so what are you looking at to possibly make mama happy, when all this goes down? You stated your classmates are in the CBI and other key components of the middle east financial sector, so where are they positioning themselves to hopefully, cash in?

Portmagaland   @SKELFA You stated you're building a yacht and then you're going to sail the world for ten years. A lot of us in this chat share such dreams and that's why we are in the dinar, however, you seemed to be from the school of thought that the dinar itself is the wrong boat to get us to such dreams.

With that said, it does sound like you think there might be another boat that can reach destination dreamland, when all this goes down. So, if you dont believe in the dinar, what are you seeing as a possible investment, when this all breaks?

Zig   @SKELFLA: Hi....I am looking forward to a conversation between you and "Sam I Am".....now that would be interesting IMO.....and adding Kaperoni to it, even better.

Chocolatiere   Portmagaland It takes some research to discover the existence of the Nephilims .. most people think that we are crazy when we mention them .. and it's true that they are actually involved in the ruling high positions , you can find a whole study with Patricia King and Randy Demain on U-tube

chocolatiere   I'm praying  for a miracle with the Dinar ..when I realized that most of the gurus were lying I started to appreciate people like Kaperoni , who were sober and more realistic in their approach , expecting something good to happen . Blessings

Zig   I sent Jeff one final invitation to visit.....Jeff's videos are posted at https://www.iqdcalls.com/Dinar-Investor.html This chat box, as most of you know, can also be found at iqdcalls.com on many pages...

Baxter   JEFF... OH YES..... HERES YOUR JEFF.. 8-31-2019 Newshound Guru Jeff ...the CBI said back in 2014 that their #1 thing they were seeking was political stability.

So they're telling you that the formation and complete government is the linchpin...the UN clearly announced that there's one position remaining - the Education Minister...this whole thing is scripted...

we have them attempting to complete the government in September...3 weeks ago you had them bring a ton of reconstruction money into Iraq specifically for the 2019 budget...there's only one quarter left.

Any reconstruction is post rate change event. If they're gonna use that money in Q4 then they have to walk into Q4 with a new rate in hand. That means they have to change the rate in September. It's very cut and dry... I JUST LOVE....'THE CUT AND DRY"

Zig   Baxter : We're gonna be rich next month!!!..... 'happy-dance

Baxter   LOL... Your funny

Baxter   yeh... I know... CUT AND DRY

Portmagaland   chocolatiere I know of the Nephilims Steve Quayle, David Icke that circle is deep in that rabbit hole.

Portmagaland   Zig I hope you are right about being rich Zig

Zig   Jeff....assuming you read the chat.........I hope you decide to come into chat despite the fact that some may attack you.....lol....this room is terrific in general and everyone is welcome!!.....don't be afraid!!....Stand your ground!...... ;scared

Baxter   Yeh... come visit... BAXTER will love to see ya

Baxter   or is your name... 'CUT AND DRY....

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IQD Calls Chat Friday Night 8-30-19 Part 2 of 2

IQD Calls Chat Friday Night 8-30-19 Part 2 of 2

foxmulder   Dave LOL who cares ??? let the guy talk .... searching for answers as is everyone else !

Sparky   Dave ...and, has contact s...

Dave   insider trading hmmmm....paying a premium for dinar.......We are off to the RACES!

foxmulder   Dave LMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sparky   foxmulder ... agree ! ...let em speak...

foxmulder   SKELFLA IM sorry but do not say it is not sanctioned by the Central bank of Iraq , if it was not legal or allowed by them WE COULD NOT BUY IT THROUGH THE BANKS !!

Sparky.   ..he/she has not deviated from their statements...

foxmulder   oy vey !! what a day !!

SKELFLA   I think I have been very clear. Understandable that Neanderthals like * have yet to grasp what I'm saying....but surely most of you have ?

Dave   Hope some found some humor.....

foxmulder   SKELFLA easy fella

SKELFLA   foxmulder No. It is legal to own Dinar in fact it was made legal through an executive order under bush. But that executive order did not proceed to the GOI legislation.

Foxmulder   it is a binding agreement

foxmulder   the GOI did not have to approve these are issues settled previouly

SKELFLA   foxmulder no man. There is specific legislation in place that forbids the government of Iraq from exporting the IQD for the purpose of off book speculation.

Sparky   Dave ... the line in Reno is getting longer... I'm gonna have to charge you 3 Dinarz...

Dave   TUESDAY by the sounds of things

Sparky   SKELFLA ... interesting...

Tebow   SKELFLA Please cite that specific legislation. We will wait!

SKELFLA   Anyway as the conman Markz loves to say do your research. But in your case do real genuine enhanced DD and you might just be able to put the puzzle together.

Sparky   Dave ... don't forget the bud...

foxmulder   SKELFLA and what exactly defines speculation apart from the stock exchange ? it is the same as the big folks buying large amounts of dinar you speak of . how does one separate them

Dave   Sparky COVERED!

foxmulder   so the main ?? is , are implying that the dinar we hold is illegal ??

Dave   foxmulder KINDA?

foxmulder   SKELFLA mister back off !!

foxmulder   SKELFLA your more rude than he is !!!

SKELFLA   foxmulder Think of it as the old boys club. Whatever it is they plan on doing with this dinar you can be fairly confident of two things, 1) they will make money 2) it probably won't translate into a return for the average Joe.

Foxmulder   SKELFLA your wrong its currency anyone can play

Sparky   SKELFLA ... now, there, you lost me...

Tebow   SKELFLA again, you don't know the outcome.

Dave   Hard to lose Sparky

foxmulder   SKELFLA be sure of this as soon as the dod frank bill was repealed here in the US us little people can speculate as you can ..

Dave   I am in LALA land

Sparky   Dave ...like a bad habit...

foxmulder   Dave ;chill

Dave   foxmulder why encourage it?

foxmulder   SKELFLA there ya go again ..... mister or Mrs whatever you have no Idea about me naive my * !!

Dave   thats why i prefer being pre Neanderthal

SKELFLA   foxmulder Yes, anyone and everyone can speculate. But certain financial instruments and mechanisms are closed to the average Joe. Call up JP Morgan ask for an institutional call account... Good luck with that..

foxmulder   SKELFLA this is simple currency for god when able to exchange I will ! wont need JP

Dave   foxmulder but go join up with those investors willing to pay a premium on dinar

foxmulder   Dave you first !

Dave   sounds sketchy to me......

SKELFLA   foxmulder you're still don't get it. Let's assume that one of my theories is correct. And these institutions are buying the dinar to form a complex trading derivative for the one belt one road initiative for which the participating countries respective central banks use for all cross border trades... How exactly would you benefit if these derivatives have a nominal change on the value of the IQD?

SKELFLA   foxmulder Now the institutions have benefited but you didn't .... So where does that leave you?

Dave   Sparky Hold your Position

Sparky   SKELFLA ...GCC Dinar...?

Dave   dont budge

SKELFLA   Sparky All participating GCC countries have their own respective currencies... So what do you mean?

Dave   IQN......new up and coming convo...hosted by SandyF

Sparky   Dave ... floating, can't help it...

Sparky   SKELFLA one currency for middle East... similar to Euro...

Dave   Camels aint currency

Dave   there yes   here no

SKELFLA   Sparky Yes, its possible but years away if not a good decade too much internal politics to overcome just look at Qatar & KSA ....

SKELFLA   These institutions are not purchasing the IQD in hope of converting it to a GCC currency ten years from now. That I am certain of.

Sparky  SKELFLA ...very interesting...

SKELFLA   Dave You might be surprised how much a quality camel sells for!

SKELFLA  Some go into the millions...

Dave   racing.... big business

SKELFLA   Dave Yup. And subsequently breeding

Dave   SKELFLA Invest in that then?

Sparky   Dave ;camel

Dave   makes sense

Dave   as long as it is not from Iran.......

SKELFLA   Dave lol no man. I currently have a yacht being built will be complete in 18months time.. Going sailing for a good ten years.

Sparky   SKELFLA Camel tricky derby...

foxmulder   SKELFLA one thing I have learned from today ! I will watch what happens no matter what anybody says period >> to be honest SKELFLA i have made money already off this !!! it has paid for what I have I loose nothing !!!! LOL LMAO LIFE IS GRAND LOL

Dave   foxmulder me too

SKELFLA   foxmulder Good luck with that...

foxmulder   Dave thes people have no power here

 Dave   But the Dinar we got M0....Malaki period.....ILLEGAL!

Sparky   SKELFLA ...my pocket rocket yaught, still in my dreams... cruise the east coast...

SKELFLA   Sparky Good boats! Solid long keep very safe. I contacted their yard last year they never responded.

foxmulder   SKELFLA see there you go again !! arrogant soul

SKELFLA   foxmulder It is what is.. But like I said good luck.

Dave   OH OH.....

SKELFLA   Sparky keel not keep

Sparky   SKELFLA ... twin hydro plane... surfs very fast...

Sparky   SKELFLA ... economical also, at high speeds...barely touches the water...

SKELFLA   Sparky sorry man. I thought you were meaning Island Packet

Sparky SKELFLA ... Arrow Cat...

SKELFLA   Anyway had my fun for now. Good to finally talk to Kap.. Disappointed nonetheless. Might check in later.foxmulder watch your step tonight those trailers have a lot of trip hazards! Out.

foxmulder   SKELFLA your derogatory remarks through out the day are a very good indication of who you are !

Sparky... I better start working on my Captain's license...if you think this is about to rv...

Sparky... I'll take a float today...as opposed to a rv never...

Wilder   So if my dinar is not legal. I will own 5th 3rd.

Sparky   Wilder ...not to worry ...if you black light it, it's good... Internationally...

Wilder   Yep

Sparky   Wilder ...like those 2020 budget figures...72 Trillion...as, my new friend Skelfla said..." somethings up "... institutional buy in of IQD...300 million USD is a start...as , projection cost for total re build is 80+ billion dollars...USD...

foxmulder   Sparky not accordingly to the person that was in here earlier

Sparky   foxmulder ...?

foxmulder   Sparky t] it was stated that the currency was not sanctioned to be sold out side of iraq

Sparky   foxmulder ... thought said institutional investors...of which is affiliated...are buying up to 300 billion IQD... by the end of October...

Zig   I forgot to ask if if he knew whether or not Trump has a ton of Dinar......

Sparky   Zig ... now, that would be nice to know...

Portmagaland   Skelfa seems to be on same page of a comment I read on a Ytube channel awile back. The comment went something like this. "I asked an investment banker if the dinar was going to RI/RV and the banker laughed and then proceeded to state they already had plans to wrap up the dinar in some complex derivative scheme." I wonder if that was Skelfa. It's the Guru guy who uses the magic 8 Ball to start off his videos sometimes. Tell you what, his 8-ball has been correct compared to the gurus.

Portmagaland   The magic 8 ball guy is not Skelfa just some dude who reports on dinar

Sandyf   @Kaperoni If they float, it could take months or even years to get to something that we would accept.

When Eygypt floated the currency it lost nearly 50% overnight, how acceptable would that be.

Egypt has floated its currency in a move that has reduced its value by almost 50% against the dollar.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-37857468

sandy   f@xyz Zig making the record straight. Its the % that matters - whether to call it a float or RV

That is wrong. Currencies on a floating exchange rate do not RV, they appreciate/depreciate under market forces.

sandyf   @chattels sandyf The reason I asked is that you are the first person that I have seen move the decimal points on the value of the dinar (1190 to 1.190) as opposed to the zeroes on the currency itself (25,000 to 25)

It is effectively the same thing, depends if you are talking domestic or international. Within the country concerned dual pricing would come into effect. In the case of Iraq for example, a loaf of bread would be either 1000 dinar note of IQD or a 1 dinar note of the new currency.

Internationally the IQD would no longer have any recognised value and the value of the new currency would start at 1000th of the IQD rate on the day the redenomination was implemented.

Within Iraq the IQD would retain an equivalence of 1000:1 for a specified transition period and thereafter only exchangeable at a specific banks.

sandyf   @foxmulder I do not have the documents I'll see what I can dig up but a country can have 2 different rates with their currency but I believe that has something to do with their accounting . But if there is a difference in value to the same currency it is very in significant

That is right to a certain extent but it is not official. Myanmar(Burma) had an international rate of around 6 and a domestic rate of around 900, even the government was using the domestic rate in the accounts. In 2012 the currency was floated to remove the difference.

From 2001-2012, the official exchange rate varied between 5.75 and 6.70 kyats per US dollar (8.20 to 7.00 kyats per euro).

However, the street rate (black market rate), which more accurately took into account the standing of the national economy, has varied from 750 kyats to 1335 kyats per USD (985 to 1475 kyats per EUR). The black market exchange rates (USD to MMK) decrease during the peak of the tourist season in Burma (December to January).

On 2 April 2012, the Central Bank of Myanmar announced that the value of the kyat against the US dollar would float, setting an initial rate of K 818 per US dollar.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burmese_kyat

Portmagaland   Good evening all. I do dont know about you guys, but Skelfa has my attention.

Portmagaland   I'm sticking with silver from now on. I have enough dinar and this diritave hypothesis seems legit because it's a fiat world and nothing like we are hoping for has happened. Can any of you name an instance in history where the global masses profited because they were allowed to be in the know?

Portmagaland   The Iraqi Dinar has a facebook page, it's no secret.

Portmagaland   It's crazy to think the puppet masters would allow us to have a slice of this pie. I was just hoping and praying that the world was going to change for the better and this time around instead of the too big to fail banks and auto industry being bailed out at the top, it was going to be us at the bottom that got the sunshine this time around.

Portmagaland   I still hold out hope and dont plan on abandoning ship. Plus, you guys are cool to chat with.

Matt   Man, Money, Technology, AI can not Fix this messed up world only the creator can. the fallin angles are the puppet masters thats the only thing that makes sense to me

Portmagaland   Matt https://www.taxheal.com/faq-on-equity-and-currency-derivatives.html

Portmagaland   I'm trying to figure out how they can tie the Dinar into dirivatives that could possibly F us

Portmagaland   Any thoughts?

Portmagaland   Matt I agree with you about the creator

Portmagaland   Matt I agree with the fallen Angel's being the puppet masters and if Armageddon is about to go down, let's get it on. Enough of this Evil Sh** running shotgun on us.

Portmagaland   Anyways, I know most here dont agree with us and some would prefer to leave our religious thoughts out of this, so I'll do my best to direct the convo back to this dirivative theory that sounds all too feasible to me.

Portmagaland   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_exchange_derivative 

Portmagaland  Currency derivatives are complicated and fir good reason. Most of us wont understand what hit us if this is indeed the route they use to route us. All we will be able to say is we got *, but we wont really understand how we got *.

Portmagaland   Interest rate swaps, fixed for floating tied to LIBOR, which is London Inter-bank offered Rate. We know Shabibi was given a prestigious position in Britain's banking sector. Maybe it was London that is buying up these large quantities of Dinar like Skelfie said. London seems to be the epic center of banking .... Just kicking around ideas

Portmagaland   If the Dinar ends up being tied to derivatives that originate in London, we're f'd.

Portmagaland   London is a cesspool of banking corruption.

Portmagaland   Sounds like Skelfie was talking about foreign exchange options which are agreed at set rates. So, the question earlier is why would they pay a premium for dinar compared to us, maybe the premium payer was promised something in the form of reconstruction projects, oil or you name it. Either way, this sounds more logical than than the Guru version of fantasy island.

Portmagaland   It says the foreign exchange options is the largest and most liquid market of all options and its lightly regulated, which would make it an easy mark for corruption.

Portmagaland   The last part was me interjecting

Portmagaland   Skelfie stated they were paying millions for billions, there must be an underlying agreement obviously because you dont give up millions of dollars, euros or pounds for trillions of Iraqi Dinar that has no value

Matt   Portmagaland I am not religious that is one of many things that desighned to divide us. But I believe in a creator and that is all that can save us.

Portmagaland   Matt I concur

Portmagaland   Matt Serial Brain just posted a video on YouTube

Portmagaland   Asians are selling gold and buying silver   Reports yahoo

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