IQD CALLS Chat Friday Night 10-4-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Friday Night 10-4-19
Dave just really really really hope these protests this time will finally have some teeth....
Dave so lets talk about whats happening in the real world?
Dave find it strange the news reported all thosse killed yesterday on our news,but nodda from Iraq?
Young_SC Dave hmm interesting
Young_SC I wonder why
Dave direct from Badghdad too...
Dave 38 killed ??????
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Sparky ...funny. .. now, Sadr and Sistani trying to calm down milineal (sp) protestors...if, my interpretation is correct...
Sparky ... average age of an Iraqi is what...25 ?... the fog's are dead or in underground prisons.
Sparky eman4u55 ... thinking the young protestors got a whiff of Hong Kong rebellion... social media may help our endeavor ?
Sparky ...at last, I see a useful purpose for tweeting, and twerking...
SparkyId have to ask someone above my pay scale...but, I believe Iraq is less than half surveyed for underground resources... Wednesday article about huge gas find... must add significantly to potential GDP...imo...
IQD CALLS Chat Friday Night 10-4-19
Dave just really really really hope these protests this time will finally have some teeth....
Dave so lets talk about whats happening in the real world?
Dave find it strange the news reported all thosse killed yesterday on our news,but nodda from Iraq?
Young_SC Dave hmm interesting
Young_SC I wonder why
Dave direct from Badghdad too...
Dave 38 killed ??????
Dave https://globalnews.ca/news/5990098/iraq-protests-explained/
Matt Dow Jones Industrial Average INDEXDJX: .DJI 26,573.72 +372.68 (1.42%)^
Sparky ...funny. .. now, Sadr and Sistani trying to calm down milineal (sp) protestors...if, my interpretation is correct...
Sparky ... average age of an Iraqi is what...25 ?... the fog's are dead or in underground prisons.
Sparky eman4u55 ... thinking the young protestors got a whiff of Hong Kong rebellion... social media may help our endeavor ?
Sparky ...at last, I see a useful purpose for tweeting, and twerking...
SparkyId have to ask someone above my pay scale...but, I believe Iraq is less than half surveyed for underground resources... Wednesday article about huge gas find... must add significantly to potential GDP...imo...
Sparky ...to be very clear... I'm down with a thousand fils for a coke...at 1:1, would be a buck...
Sparky ...or, 1 IQD...one deenarz... ... approximately correct...
Xyz Abadi joins Sadr and demands the resignation of the government and early elections https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mawazin.net%2FDetails.aspx%3Fjimare%3D67506
Sparky xyz ... that's why Abadi left SOL... correct ?
Sparky xyz ...Abadi next pm...pick up where he left off...
Sparky xyz ...Abadi was also former Finance minister...as well as former PM...
Sparky ...the "Hong Kong " of democracy...very fragrant...and, potentially lucrative...
Sparky ...live the dream...like we have a chance to here in the good ol' USA...
Sparky ... unofficial end of rant...
Crazycrypto seems mahdi is on the run
Crazycrypto mahdi confirmed an iranian puppet
Crazycrypto the people want him gone!!
Crazycrypto we shall see what comes of this all
Sparky Crazycrypto ...Iran has had Iraq in their pocket for almost two decades... just in case they need bank...imo...
sandyf All currency is issued against collateral and in the case of Iraq that collateral is in the form of foreign investment and currency reserves. If Iraq has a billion dollars in a foreign bank, it does not matter what people would like to think, that asset will always be worth a billion dollars.
Collateral for the US dollar can be found in Table 6. https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h41/current/h41.htm#h41tab11
6. Collateral Held against Federal Reserve Notes: Federal Reserve Agents’ Accounts
Millions of dollars
Federal Reserve notes and collateral Wednesday
Oct 2, 2019
Federal Reserve notes outstanding 1,931,285
Less: Notes held by F.R. Banks not subject to collateralization 213,812
Federal Reserve notes to be collateralized 1,717,473
Collateral held against Federal Reserve notes 1,717,473
Gold certificate account 11,037
Special drawing rights certificate account 5,200
U.S. Treasury, agency debt, and mortgage-backed securities pledged1,2 1,701,236
Other assets pledged 0
Memo:
Total U.S. Treasury, agency debt, and mortgage-backed securities1,2 3,767,788
Less: Face value of securities under reverse repurchase agreements 277,288
U.S. Treasury, agency debt, and mortgage-backed securities eligible to be pledged 3,490,499
Note: Components may not sum to totals because of rounding.
1. Includes face value of U.S. Treasury, agency debt, and mortgage-backed securities held outright, compensation to adjust for the effect of inflation on the original face value of inflation-indexed securities, and cash value of repurchase agreements.
2. Includes securities lent to dealers under the overnight securities lending facility; refer to table 1A.
xyz Death toll climbs to 100 in Iraq as protests spread
More than 2,500 people also injured since protests began on Oct. 1 https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/death-toll-climbs-to-100-in-iraq-as-protests-spread/1602753#
chattels Iran's influence seen in transfer of Iraqi war hero
READ IN: Mustafa Saadoun October 4, 2019
chattels Iraq is a complicated and tangled web.
chattels Corruption, deceit, fear and loathing.
chattels Iraqi Parliament fails to convene emergency session to discuss protests due to absence of MPs. Speaker of Parliament meets with 50 person delegation representing protesters & receives demands. Over 100 killed in protests. http://mobp.as/fa6Tp
chattels Amir Abdollahian of Iranian Government: there is a foreign hand in the unrest in Iraq, Zionists & those who protect takfiiri terrorists.
chattels Baghdad Operations Command announced on Saturday its attempt to arrest a sniper targeting demonstrators in the capital. LINK
chattels Sadr said his Sairoon bloc would boycott parliament He and Abadi called for govt to resign and new elections Speaker Halbusi invited protesters to parliament to voice their demands https://twitter.com/JoelWing2
chattels PM Abdul Mahdi continued feckless statements to protestors Said he was committed to fighting corruption and called for reform. Ayatollah Sistani's Friday sermon seemed very establishment & as bad as Abdul Mahdi's Said violence should stop and parliament and courts should carry out reforms. https://twitter.com/JoelWing2
chattels Protest in Najaf broken up by gunfire Governor & police chief said saboteurs infiltrated protests and causing violence Similar rhetoric used last yr to discredit demos in Basra and justify repression. https://twitter.com/DavidMWitty1?lang=en
IQD CALLS Chat Early Friday 10-4-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Early Friday 10-4-19
chattels Iraqi PM Abdel-Mahdi to the nation: we have a choice in front of us today, a nation or no nation. My government will not make empty promises. There are no magical solutions. A government cannot achieve all national aspirations in one year.
chattels This round of protests in Iraq seen as different from previous due to size & demand for fall of regime vs. reform & anti-corruption. Security forces use live fire after water canons & tear gas fail. Security forces prevent storming of Green Zone.
chattels In protests in Iraq, protestors raise pictures of Lieutenant General Sa’idi who was transferred out of the CTService. Pictures of Sa’idi include slogans, “he won the love of the people & the hatred of politicians” & “no place for patriots in Iraq.”
chattels Iraqi PM establishes phone numbers so protesters can call in their demands.
chattels Iraqi Defense Ministry says some unknown infiltrators have fired on protesters & security forces. Accusations that some unknown 3rd party is trying to exploit the ongoing protests in Iraq because of Iraq’s opposition to the deal of the century.
Chattels This is PM Abd al-Mahdi's speech from last night. A few comments to follow.
chattels AAM is clearly proud of what he has achieved in removing Baghdad neighborhood barriers and moving the PM's office. Not many people seem to think this is so impressive.
chattels The most immediate policy response is a new welfare program that will provide payments to families without a breadwinner (min 4). As an economist he knows this isn't going to change anything, & Iraq doesn't have the money for this & everything else.
IQD CALLS Chat Early Friday 10-4-19
chattels Iraqi PM Abdel-Mahdi to the nation: we have a choice in front of us today, a nation or no nation. My government will not make empty promises. There are no magical solutions. A government cannot achieve all national aspirations in one year. LINK /
chattels This round of protests in Iraq seen as different from previous due to size & demand for fall of regime vs. reform & anti-corruption. Security forces use live fire after water canons & tear gas fail. Security forces prevent storming of Green Zone.
http://iraqnewsapp.com/1/Article/2244/186450864#.XZUstSUpCEc …
chattels In protests in Iraq, protestors raise pictures of Lieutenant General Sa’idi who was transferred out of the CTService. Pictures of Sa’idi include slogans, “he won the love of the people & the hatred of politicians” & “no place for patriots in Iraq.” https://www.bbc.com/arabic/middleeast-49921809
chattels Iraqi PM establishes phone numbers so protesters can call in their demands. LINK -
chattels Iraqi Defense Ministry says some unknown infiltrators have fired on protesters & security forces. Accusations that some unknown 3rd party is trying to exploit the ongoing protests in Iraq because of Iraq’s opposition to the deal of the century. http://mobp.as/caPTp
Chattels This is PM Abd al-Mahdi's speech from last night. A few comments to follow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ksbVorGTYM
chattels AAM is clearly proud of what he has achieved in removing Baghdad neighborhood barriers and moving the PM's office. Not many people seem to think this is so impressive.
chattels The most immediate policy response is a new welfare program that will provide payments to families without a breadwinner (min 4). As an economist he knows this isn't going to change anything, & Iraq doesn't have the money for this & everything else.
chattels AAM says "some measures" have been taken to fight corruption but admits progress has been minimal (min 6). After entering office he (unconstitutionally) centralized control of all corruption offices in his "Supreme Council for Combatting Corruption." Power = responsibility
chattels AAM says security forces have "followed international standards in maintaining order" (min 8). I wonder if he is referring to something he learned during his recent trip to China.
chattels AAM: parliament needs to empower PM to complete his cabinet & change some ministers now in office (min 9). Nothing keeps him from firing them himself but with no coalition AAM must beg parl't for approval. Problems w several ministers have been in the Iraqi media for months.
chattels AAM: We inherited all these problems, we didn't create them (min 11). Maliki and Abadi were such failures, I've only had a year.
I don't think this sells bc everyone knows AAM is part & parcel of the political class. It is hard to escape that.
chattels https://twitter.com/UticaRisk
chattels As anti-Iran sentiments rise, protests erupt in Iraq Ali Mamouri October 2, 2019
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-violence-dignity.html#ixzz61NOEJnGI
chattels Iraq on fire as protests spread across the south Ali Mamouri October 3, 2019
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-iran-us.html#ixzz61NOKS3Y9
chattels It is expected that Ayatollah Ali Sistani's spokesman will express the ayatollah's position regarding the ongoing protests during Friday prayer Oct. 4.
But it is very unlikely that Sistani's words will influence the protesters.
The majority of protesters are teenagers under the age of 20. They are not religiously conservative and therefore cannot be influenced by religious authorities.
Rather, they are emotional, angry, looking for fast solutions, raising extreme demands such as changing the constitution, changing the parliamentary system to presidential and replacing Abdul Mahdi with dismissed counter-terrorism head Abdul Wahab al-Saidi.
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-iran-us.html#ixzz61NOhvWw4
chattels The crowds of young protesters seem to not have anything to lose. They move toward the security forces bravely, embracing live bullets, batons and tear gas. This makes them a dangerous force, ready to become extreme easily and quickly.
Although several figures — including Muqtada al-Sadr, who led protests for a long time — have tried to mediate between the protesters and the government in order to calm the streets, the protesters are not keen on any initiative leading them to evacuate the streets.
In such circumstances, the only thing that would calm the street is the resignation of the prime minister, which will become more realistic over time if the protests continue.
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-iran-us.html#ixzz61NOwkzKI
chattels And that's the way that it is from the news that I read out of Iraq on this Friday, October 4, 2019. Have a fine day all.
Whitelions good morning all has you seen that there is no real news coming out of Iraq for 2 days now because of the demonstrations the dume and glume gurus must be going crazy lol with delite and I told you so's
Francis Albert Hello, new here. I may have some potentially useful insights into the massive Dinar count and Kaperoni's argument etc...You all know when he usually comes by? thank you
Zig Francis Albert : It varies as to when Kaperoni visits....but he does read this chat and will see your post.....
Francis Albert Excellent...open to conversing with him
Francis Albert My pleasure. I'll check in from time to time. Hope to chat it up with Kap. I think the reason why so, so many people who have Dinar go through emotional ups and downs is because they have never been taught some of the history, the geo politics, the banking system and deep down are unsure if they did the right thing investing. And thus grab on to hopium and it's hard on them when they do this
Zig At 1:06:......"Francis Albert" "OK. Backdrop, I've studied the financial system for 25 years with a currency historian as mentor. I do understand how Central Banks work. They are all, (less Russia, China, Iran and South Korea), controlled by the people who control Dollar Inc. i.e. big banks, who own the central banks, IMF, BIS, U.N. you understand."
Zig Francis Albert : Does that "Currency Historian" that mentored you have Dinar??
Tebow Francis Albert I've heard the deal Bush made for the oil. I have never seen any proof, but it's been out there for years. Bush did say they would pay for the war. Who knows.
Tebow Also believe they will come out .86 to 1 USD the float in the market.
Francis Albert Tebow..if I was on a game show and "had" to come up with an answer for the new car, I would guess .86 and float the boat as well. And No, my mentor in the world of money did not think Iraq would revalue the currency. I think he's wrong..
Dave they are really ramping up the protests.....getting nasty like we have not seen in yrs
Dave Mahdi figures he cant fix all the problems in a yr........?
Dave same problems for over a decade
Baxter THEY are hopping Mad because they havent produced BAXTERS DIMES
Dave hopping mad may be an understatement.......
Baxter where did you see this dave
Dave Baxter National news last night......searching 4 dinar news site
Baxter oh..ok
Dave 30 some killed yesterday?
Baxter wow
Dave shut down green zone too
4 Oct 19, 03:37 PM Baxter I havent heard a thing about it
Dave tanks in the streets
Dave The head of the State of Law Coalition, Mr. Nuri al-Maliki today called on the deputies of parliament to assume responsibility and attend the sessions of the parliament a quorum in order to find legal exits for the demands of peaceful demonstrators.
Dave LINK
Dave like thats going to gain any traction
Baxter Maliki.... ggeez
Dave 13 days left for arrest warrants.....to be issued against prominent officials......as per protest leaders.....
Dave looking for that article.....from a few days ago
Dave the list of their demands....
Dave BAGHDAD / Al-Masalla: The opposition front announced its full solidarity with the legitimate demands of the demonstrators.
“It is regrettable that the country has witnessed a marked decline in the situation and the spread of popular protests in most areas of Baghdad and the provinces,” the statement said.
He added, “While we call on the demonstrators from our people to take peaceful methods of demonstrating and expressing their protest and the preservation of public and private money and not to allow engineers to enter their ranks to miss the opportunity on their trainees and achieve the desired objectives of demonstrations and sit-ins.”
The opposition front announced today “its full solidarity with the legitimate demands of the demonstrators and we believe that all the declared demands are true and can be implemented with deliberate steps within a short period of time.”
It demanded the following:
1 – We call the Presidency of the House of Representatives to convene an emergency session and the presence of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces devoted to discuss security events and the development of legislative solutions and obligate the government to implement them.
2 – Compensation of the victims who died as a result of the recent demonstrations, whether civilians or security forces, and hold the negligent.
3- Providing job opportunities for our young people by operating factories and factories that are stopped after they are invested and withholding the privileges of special grades and presidencies and turning them into job grades for the unemployed.
4 – The Government to open the door of investment and overcome all obstacles and red tape that prevents the bringing of capital and technology to the country and give priority to the employment of local labor, especially in oil companies and dispensing with foreign workers.
Young_SC Dave Ask Tebow to post it
5 – Referring all those who claim the economic work of the parties and committing the Supreme Council against Corruption to submit large corruption files to the judiciary and names and within a period not exceeding 15 days.
6 – Require the ministries of higher education to operate the degree holders by requiring universities to work on a system of separation of morning and evening.
Young_SC Dave you think the citizens are demanding the GOI to Float the currency
Young_SC Lol OR LOP IT? Per Kap
Dave Young_SC putting the cart ahead of the horse me thinks
Young_SC I dont think kap understands the meaning of a LOP and what it will do to the country
Dave Young_SC never has
Dave show me laws........
Young_SC When your economy has gone to S*** is when the currency is a LOP
Young_SC not sure if Kap understands that
Dave peeps cant understand me......oh well
Dave facing a Coup....RV next week?
Young_SC Dave when things seem at its worst imo anything can happen
Young_SC Citizens are demanding things
Dave Young_SC they just opened up the Green Zone after yrs....shut down again
Young_SC LOP the currency and then let it Float as what kap says lolol i dont think it works like that Kap
Dave i like simple explanations
Dave usually have simple answers
Dave i figure we dead in the water if they cant figure this mess out
Dave not really concerned about lop float etc..........not ready given the current climate imo
Dave not even close
Young_SC Dave well look at it this way Why are they protesting ??
Young_SC Corruption, unemployment, free market, purchasing of power etc etc
Dave Young_SC you do not read the news
Young_SC Dave what do you think will happen if you do not give their demands?
Dave Young_SC before Sunni vs SHia...with the militias
Dave now peeps against the Polititicans
Young_SC Dave yes as expected
Young_SC Based on what they want
Young_SC Politicians screwed the citizens
Dave Young_SC CTV last night 38 peeps killed
Young_SC Dave But Dave what do you think will happen if you do not give what the citizens want?
Dave Sadr is pissed
Dave cancel parliament
Young_SC I dont blame Sadr
Dave https://search4dinar.wordpress.com
Dave check it.......
Dave good news source
Young_SC There was 12 big armed trucks coming out of the green zone the other day there was an article about it
Young_SC I wonder what was up with that
Dave just really really really hope these protests this time will finally have some teeth....
IQD CALLS Chat Thursday Night 10-3-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Thursday Night 10-3-19
Woke AF The Iraqi prime minister will deliver a keynote speech shortly and expect to announce his resignation
Xyz Iraqi PM speech started about 1.47am Iraq time.. location is strange, not usual office. Reminiscent of udnerground speeches of leaders under siege, but unclear where he is
xyz ! People expected him to resign and he comes on to talk about guidelines to prevent violence and blaming protesters for escalations! Man people’s brains are splashed all over the city due to your forces and guards attacking them and you talk about guidelines? #baghdad #iraq foxmulder xyz thanks. .couldn't get it to copy
xyz IRAQ PM SAYS GOVERNMENT TO VOTE ON LAW TO GRANT POOR FAMILIES A BASIC WAGE -STATE TV
Sam I Am Kaperoni: And as the GDP of the country grows so will the currency
Sam I Am It doesn't work that way, Kap
Sam I Am Currency isn't stock
Sparky Sam I Am ...tell us, how does it work ?
Sam I Am The way it works is countries try to maintain stability with their exchange rates. As their country is stabilized and their economy is growing they tend to slowly lower the value to encourage foreign purchases of their exports. This is what Vietnam has been doing for years and their economy has grown exponentially
IQD CALLS Chat Thursday Night 10-3-19
Woke AF The Iraqi prime minister will deliver a keynote speech shortly and expect to announce his resignation
Xyz Iraqi PM speech started about 1.47am Iraq time.. location is strange, not usual office. Reminiscent of udnerground speeches of leaders under siege, but unclear where he is https://twitter.com/AlOraibi/status/1179892642571804672
xyz THIS IS LIVE UPDATE .... https://twitter.com/AlOraibi/status/1179892642571804672
foxmulder https://twitter.com/thestevennabil/status/1179894864848158720?s=09
xyz ! People expected him to resign and he comes on to talk about guidelines to prevent violence and blaming protesters for escalations! Man people’s brains are splashed all over the city due to your forces and guards attacking them and you talk about guidelines? #baghdad #iraq https://twitter.com/thestevennabil/status/1179894864848158720?s=09
foxmulder xyz thanks. .couldn't get it to copy
xyz IRAQ PM SAYS GOVERNMENT TO VOTE ON LAW TO GRANT POOR FAMILIES A BASIC WAGE -STATE TV
Sam I Am Kaperoni: And as the GDP of the country grows so will the currency
Sam I Am It doesn't work that way, Kap
Sam I Am Currency isn't stock
Sparky Sam I Am ...tell us, how does it work ?
Sam I Am The way it works is countries try to maintain stability with their exchange rates. As their country is stabilized and their economy is growing they tend to slowly lower the value to encourage foreign purchases of their exports. This is what Vietnam has been doing for years and their economy has grown exponentially
Dave So There!
Sam I Am xyz xyz I guess I am technically because I still have some dinar
Zig Sam I Am and RamblerNash of Dinar Daily recorded a call in August......If you have interest it can be found at https://www.iqdcalls.com/Iraq_Currency_Watch.html
Sam I Am xyz I'm holding on for the collector's value
John Like the Zim
Dave 42T out .....not going to ever be collectible
Sam I Am I have 50s
xyz Sam I Am how much do you have?
Sam I Am and 250s and 500s they're worthless so I just hang on to them
xyz Sam I Am total
Sam I Am 100k or so
John I traded my 50's in before they pulled them
Dave dont think one can lop off3 zeros off a 500 note.......
Dave Zig Some are extra SPECIAL
Sparky Sam I Am ...but, I m thinking Iraq needs imports for Reconstruction, and a higher rate would be beneficial...
Sam I Am the three zeros are lopped from the exchange rate and reflected in the new currency
Sam I Am $.00085 becomes $.85 and the 10k note becomes 1
Sam I Am oops ... becomes 10
Dave with wheel barrows.......
Dave no rate change though
Sam I Am Dave The rate change is 1200:1 to 1.2 :1
Sparky Sam I Am ...even if it looks, I will make 300. %...
Sam I Am that's how that works
Sparky *lops
Dave Sam I Am oh you know the rate
Sam I Am Dave I know the current rate, and that's what I'm using in my example
Dave familiar with minting costs Sam I Am ?>
Sam I Am Dave irrelevant
Sam I Am money is always being reprinted and recoined
Dave 1000 fils for that coke?
Sam I Am because it wears out
Dave low denoms
Sparky Zig ...all opinions are valuable...
Zig No way do I think that this is a sure thing......
John Right before the 50's where pulled, I exchanged in a mall exchange kios my 50's (100 of them) in for a 5k note so they did not charge me anything for that exchange
John As I knew they were getting rid of the 50 note
Young_SC Dave its obvious that sam nor kap can answer the 1000 fils for coke question
Young_SC Lol
Dave 1 coke costs1000 dinars.........low denoms out.......lop.......no rate change ......would cost 5cents to print each note 10 for coinage....
Dave expensive coke
Young_SC Dave kap nor sam dont understand
Sparky Zig I accumulate while I wait, because I believe that I will still prosper, even if they lop...lol...300%+...
Zig I stopped buying long ago.....
Dave 1 dinar coin????? 10 cents to mint each......1000 dinar for a coke.....100 bucks to mint......
Xyz Zig 10-3-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni I am very confident with all of the economic activities going on in Iraq that they certainly will launch a market economy and receive private investment to rebuild the infrastructure next year. They must open the banking system for that to succeed and float the currency.
Sam I Am Dave How much does it cost to mint a penny?
Dave Sam I Am 5 cents
Sam I Am lol, more like 1.67 but you get my point
Tebow Sam I Am $.00085 becomes $.85 and the 10k note becomes 1..... Seems your math or thinking is wrong.
Sam I Am Tebow I corrected that I meant 10
Tebow On must have missed that
Dave Sam I Am so 100 notes for that coke......i know notes cost 3-5 cents each to mint
Dave gosh 1000 notes to buy a case
Tebow Dave dump trucks
Sam I Am Dave This might be hard for you to comprehend, but central banks don't create policy based on your obsession with cokes
Tebow Sam I Am really
Dave bubble gum then
Dave or better yet 10000 dinar for a beer
Sam I Am Every country that has redenominated as Iraq is proposing has had to absorb the cost of the changeover to the new currency and printing/minting costs
Sam I Am That doesn't change the fact that it's a neutral event
Portmagaland https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wxUGlXp0qTs James Munder talking about Iraq's 24hr curfew
Portmagaland Crazy stuff going on all over the world, it's about to ramp up quickly here. That's when Kim Clement said this will pop.
Young_SC Sparky you also dont need articles from the cbi because a person not from the direct source is the trusted source
Sparky Young_SC ... I accept and contemplate any and all possible outcome..
Young_SC Sparky There is no such thing as different outcomes
Young_SC If you been following the news and know why the protest in iraq is going on you will know why i state that
Young_SC 1 of them involving the currency
Young_SC Purchasing power
Sparky Young_SC ...lol...10 %...20%...100%...1000%...3000%...lol...
Young_SC But yet you believe in false info narrative of a LOP
Young_SC now can you please pull up a article quoting a LOP
Young_SC try telling the citizens that
Sparky Young_SC ...how do you know what I believe ?
Red Hey everyone did you see this..?? Iraqi Minister to make a speech shortly re; his resignation. BQQM https://twitter.com/MethaqAlFayyadh/status/1179869491087511559
Red translated tweet The Iraqi prime minister will deliver a keynote speech shortly and expect to announce his resignation
Portmagaland Red BQQM!
Young_SC Sparky i prefer facts then opinions
Red Portmagaland What we've all been waiting on.... YAAS!
Portmagaland Red https://rsbnetwork.com/2019/09/live-president-donald-trump-rally-in-fayetteville-nc-9-9-19/ That's in Fayetvill NC home of the 82nd Airborne and they waited 48hrs to her Q+ Speak
Sparky Young_SC ..in that case, your chatting with the wrong guy..
Red Riots in Equador streets. India & Zimbabwe banks limiting cash outs.
Red Don't keep your money in the bank. If they go down, you'll never see it.
Sparky Young_SC ..also, appreciate your perspective...
John Red So where do you keep it
Red John I don't have much so I keep it where I can access it without any electronics... Lol
Red Some are saying the Iraq riots are Iranian backed... That wouldn't surprise me with their hard hit sanctions while Iraq goes international the NASDAQ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/least-7-dead-embassies-sealed-iraq-protests-rage-police-use-live-fire
Sparky Red ...you know it bro... chaos...
Sparky Red ... Iran is desperate...
indiana holder How does the Resegnation play with the RV
Red Sparky Yup Beny posted this video of people swarming banks in India. The banks won't allow them to take out more than $14 a day. Zimbabwe banks at $100 max https://twitter.com/Benywilson7/status/1178726319703515136
Portmagaland Red I heard they were Irian backed as well.
Portmagaland Red I googled India banking crises after Benny's video it pulled up 2018, did you confirm Benny's India story?
Portmagaland I couldn't find anything with that date Benny put that video out.
Red I confirmed the Zimbabwe one. Let me take a look. there could be a black out on it.
Portmagaland I heard it's going to be bad hear starting the 15th when those bank repos are over. Got 600 more dimes just in case
Sparky Portmagaland ... Israel going * to the wall vs Iran...imo..m
Portmagaland Sparky And the Saudi Huthis popping off
Sparky Portmagaland ...Yeman
Sparky Portmagaland ...hash d Poppin off...imo...
Red This from Bloomberg I think is a heads up. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-03/crisis-among-india-shadow-banks-pushes-up-funding-costs-overseas but this youtube title speaks volumes.
"The Reserve Bank of India has put limitations on the withdrawal of amount by account-holders of the Mumbai-based Punjab.. I don't understand Punjabi though ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9Af1ck1dyk
Sparky Portmagaland . either way, Iran about to get checked...
Red Found this on India Bank crisis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv8rTPOpiS4
Sparky ...Israel will kick their *..and...we will watch...
Dave Mahdi ......toast//?????
Red Sparky this tweet from Saudis https://twitter.com/rwoafalsoain/status/1179470554073616385 translation " My speech to the Iraqi brothers in Mesopotamia, where Iran is rife with corruption, you have the right to demonstrate and others to clean up your country from the clutches of Khomeini and his followers in the Green Zone: Iran caused you death, hunger, homelessness and destruction."
Sparky Red ...good post...
Red Lots on #Iraq on twitter ....also Watching riots on #Ecuador
Red Dave Did you know Trudeau signed off on legislation letting Canadian banks take your money if a crash were to hit?? He needs to be run out of office...and jailed.
Red Say WHAT?? https://twitter.com/kurdistannews24/status/1179909462116552704 3hrs ago BREAKING news Iraq news update
Iranian Revolutionary Guards surround Iraqi prime minister Abdul Mahdi 's house in #المنطقة_الخضراء green ZONE
Baghdad post report https://twitter.com/kurdistannews24/status/1179907732956016640
#BREAKING NEWS VIDEO - #IRAQ UPDATE situation has gone worse in #Iraq soon after
The #Iraqi prime minister ended his speech thanking the security forces after more than 31 deaths and thousands of injuries around the country ;angry ....I guess he didn't resign??
Portmagaland Red They're called bank bail ins
Portmagaland What Trudeau signed, its law here as well. If you dont hold it, you dont own it.
Red Just found this...guess he didn't resign...uptick in riots https://1buv.com/iraqi-pm-demands-parliamentary-support-to-reshuffle-cabinet-after-deadly-unrest-middle-east-monitor/
Sparky Portmagaland ...gotz to watch your $..
Red Portmagaland We didn't have that before. We barely felt the 2008 crash because of banking regulations
Portmagaland Sparky I've got 24hr security, big safe and guns, I need to get a dog, but wife doesnt want to pick up poop
Red Portmagaland Yup I got the same, but I also have 2 bull mastiffs. They eat more than I do.$$ Lol
Portmagaland Red I didnt feel the 2008 crash because I was in China and I saw the transfer of wealth that our previous administrations handed over to China, so they could live like Malaki.
Sparky .. . tough crowd...
Red Sparky Ruff...
Portmagaland You take credit away from Americans and we are Iraq
Portmagaland Be no difference
Red Portmagaland Canadians are asleep and the UN is parked in our yard.
Portmagaland Only we have guns, Iraqis dont and they getting beat down by a government that sold them out, too
Portmagaland Red UN is here as well Wish they weren't
Red Portmagaland I thought Trump kicked out UN military..?
Portmagaland Red The New World order was planned out before I was born and when Daddy Serf or Serph started the CIA
Portmagaland The pivot to China was no accident
Portmagaland Trumps only been in office for not even three years going to take more time. We've been flooded with jihadis and there's caches of weapons all over the U.S. Think Fast and the Furuious
Portmagaland Plus all those billions of rounds DHS bought, where are they?
RedPortmagaland ....and then we have this... ;frying-pan-smash https://twitter.com/FuctupMike/status/1179957633484234754 I don't know if you can see that link or not... what a messed up world we live in.
IQD CALLS Chat Thursday Evening 10-3-19
. IQD CALLS Chat Thursday Evening 10-3-19
Young_SC 10-3-2019 Newshound Guru Jeff ...Historically they [Iraq] had a 3+ value...notice how they keep telling you they're trying to come out with lower denoms and then back in August and September they put out all those articles telling you coins...
so yes they will be coming out with coins and lower denoms at an increased rate...clear back into the early 1970's they had a 3+ value...the article from yesterday said $3.37 as of 1973.
That's before I was even born. I was born in '75. That tells me Iraq is the wealthiest country in the world. So when you come out and tell me, 'Oh yeah we think the rates gonna go to 1+', I laugh in your face because Iraq is the wealthiest country in the world and back in '73 they were holding a rate of $3.37. That's huge...
Zig I have invited Jeff to return.....now that SKELFLA isn't here to harass him.....lol......also have invited Tony Breitling to return as he was here once.......
Xyz Zig 10-3-2019 Intel Guru FRANK26 IF YOU THINK THINGS ARE NOT LOOKING GOOD DUE TO THE DEMONSTRATIONS, DON'T... I AM VERY EXCITED BECAUSE OF WHAT TEAMS ARE TELLING ME!!!
Kaperoni I'll say it again, I visit several sites, several chat rooms, I own no websites. I have nothing to do with any website other than posting or visiting. If you have problems with a site that I visit take it up with the site not me.
Kaperoni Some people deserve to be insulted. In my opinion those that use this chat room to learn and educate themselves have constructive conversations and it benefits everyone
xyz Kaperoni who is the GURU? 10-2-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni Iraq's Parliament announced today the 2020 budget will be submitted around middle of October for review/voting.
Kaperoni You would probably be surprised how many people would come forward in this chat room that are not registered to have a legitimate conversation if they didn't feel that they would be harassed
Kaperoni And after all that's what this is all about to help as many people as possible
IQD CALLS Chat Thursday Evening 10-3-19
Young_SC 10-3-2019 Newshound Guru Jeff ...Historically they [Iraq] had a 3+ value...notice how they keep telling you they're trying to come out with lower denoms and then back in August and September they put out all those articles telling you coins...
so yes they will be coming out with coins and lower denoms at an increased rate...clear back into the early 1970's they had a 3+ value...the article from yesterday said $3.37 as of 1973.
That's before I was even born. I was born in '75. That tells me Iraq is the wealthiest country in the world. So when you come out and tell me, 'Oh yeah we think the rates gonna go to 1+', I laugh in your face because Iraq is the wealthiest country in the world and back in '73 they were holding a rate of $3.37. That's huge...
Zig I have invited Jeff to return.....now that SKELFLA isn't here to harass him.....lol......also have invited Tony Breitling to return as he was here once.......
Xyz Zig 10-3-2019 Intel Guru FRANK26 IF YOU THINK THINGS ARE NOT LOOKING GOOD DUE TO THE DEMONSTRATIONS, DON'T... I AM VERY EXCITED BECAUSE OF WHAT TEAMS ARE TELLING ME!!!
Kaperoni I'll say it again, I visit several sites, several chat rooms, I own no websites. I have nothing to do with any website other than posting or visiting. If you have problems with a site that I visit take it up with the site not me.
Kaperoni Some people deserve to be insulted. In my opinion those that use this chat room to learn and educate themselves have constructive conversations and it benefits everyone
xyz Kaperoni who is the GURU? 10-2-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni Iraq's Parliament announced today the 2020 budget will be submitted around middle of October for review/voting.
Kaperoni You would probably be surprised how many people would come forward in this chat room that are not registered to have a legitimate conversation if they didn't feel that they would be harassed
Kaperoni And after all that's what this is all about to help as many people as possible
Kaperoni Zig oh, you got my message I'm assuming?
Zig Kaperoni : Do you have a problem with people who disagree with you in a respectful manner??
Dave never answer my questions........for 10 yrs
Kaperoni Nooo
Kaperoni Dave there is no answering your question because you don't like the answers
Kaperoni The first misnomer I bought the dinar is that everyone says it's worthless. It's not worthless it has value it's used everyday in Iraq. Just like other countries that have currencies with zeros they use them everyday to conduct commerce
Zig Like Vietnam.....
Kaperoni Stupid voice translation screwed up the first sentence whatever that was supposed to mean LOL
Dave with wheel barrows
Kaperoni Zig exactly..or Iran
Dave Zig every one else gets it except for kap
xyz Zig as he can preach with impunity
Kaperoni The other misnomer is that people think everyone would buy up Iraq if they flooded the currency. That's total nonsense the Central Bank of Iraq controls the money supply just like every other Central Bank controls their money supply. And central banks all around the world float their currencies
Kaperoni Floated..not flooded
Zig xyz : Well everyone can say what they wish in here.....Kap is no different.....Sparky also preaches.....lol
Dave yes for the 10000000 time ...thats what Russia did
Zig No rule about going on a long rant in here.....
xyz Zig but Kaperoni get away with name calling and severe insults. He feels like he is a lord
Kaperoni The IMF wants central banks to float their currency. The the Middle East for example has three or four countries in the last three years that have floated their currencies
Kaperoni But I don't care if no one listens to me. There's only one point that ever needs to be made and that one point is the Central Bank of Iraq has said itself that there is an excess of 40 trillion dinar outside the banking system. That means they have no control over it but yet they're liable for it.
And there's no way they could ever RV the currency with that much dinar outside the banking system that alone should tell anyone or everyone that the idea of an RV is a myth
Dave Kaperoni funny you said 20t the other day
Dave which is it
Kaperoni No I said it could be any amount from 2 trillion to 60 trillion it doesn't matter it's too much I was just using it as an example. But the article I posted in here about a week ago clearly stated the amount was 45 trillion I believe
Doug_W Dave Always
Dave you said at least 20t ...verbatim
Kaperoni David doesn't matter it's too much you cannot RV that much currency
Kaperoni XYZ you're talking about two different things and RV is an RV going to a float it's a different exchange rate regime
Dave funny i read 45 t printed yrs back
Kaperoni Dave and it's probably gone up substantially because they cannot reduce the dinar in circulation as long as the dollar is prevalent. The currency auctions are a balance between dinar and dollar in order to maintain stability. And as everyone knows the CBI has maintained stability for the last 16 months within 2% / IMF requirements so we know there's a balance that is how the auctions work
Dave Kaperoni yes...cbi takes in 4t a month at auctions.......you state cbi pays govt employees in cash from that
Kaperoni A change from a peg to a float is a different exchange rate regime and the purpose of it is a monetary tool. That tool is used to combat inflationary pressure created in this case by an influx of substantial Capital through the financial system.
Anyone will tell you that if you put a ton of money into a financial system you have to have tools in place to combat that pressure that is created otherwise you'll lose control over the financial system.
Therefore if they're going to have a market economy and have billions of dollars come in to rebuild which I think we all can agree is what they're trying to do we know they're going to float because that is a must
Kaperoni Dave they also pay out salaries in dinar so to think that they're taking in dinar off of the auctions you're fooling yourself
Dave those Q cards for NOT....LOL
Kaperoni By zig
Kaperoni The problem with a good percentage of you in this chat room is you don't understand how central banks work, their tools and the necessary requirements of a central bank over the financial system it is their number one job to maintain stability. That is why you'll never see an RV because that would absolutely throw the entire system into chaos I assure you. It's all Guru nonsense
Young_SC Kaperoni why are you so presistent to get your point across to a bunch of people who disagree with your opinions? Lol I dont understand
Kaperoni But you guys Keep On Believing because you like the guru nonsense I guess. Young the answer is very simple I've been in this 10 years and I have seen hundreds of people getting hurt losing everything being led down the wrong path. And I have a skill at researching and if I can help a little bit to educate those I do so. People that have known me know that's what I'm about
Young_SC You have some will and some wont but i find that you are very presistent for unknown reasons
Dave Kaperoni funny your the only guru i try to follow
Young_SC If i were to tell someone my opinion and they disagree i would leave it alone and not bother but with you i find that you just keep digging digging digging
Kaperoni I don't care if people follow me or listen to me I just find facts and I present those facts and you can do what you want with them or you can listen to the moron gurus
Young_SC Kaperoni why are your intentions?
xyz Young_SC clergy forces everyone to be converted. I conversion to a float = a possible $7.95 subscription. Its business sales pitch call FLOAT there
Young_SC What*
Kaperoni Young_SC I already stated my intentions to help people understand nothing more
Kaperoni Everyone is entitled to their opinion but there are facts and there are made up stories and I'm just giving you the facts there's too much money in circulation to ever significantly RV
Young_SC No disrespect but i just find it odd
Young_SC Kaperoni i brought 3 articles into this room on numerous occassions from the CBI and Finance minister stating the opposite of your opinion but yet you avoided the articles
Young_SC Kaperoni howcome?
Kaperoni Young_SC there were a lot of people when I started back 10 years ago that did the same thing including Bond lady, the guy that started Dinar Detectives, Etc they've all passed on so the amount of people still providing facts to the dinar community has dwindled. But if someone doesn't do it the guru's win and they continue to propagate the lies everyday of some overnight riches to scam people
Dave Kaperoni Total disregard for CBI
Young_SC Kaperoni You still havent addressed the articles i posted
Kaperoni Young_SC I doubt that you brought three articles in but you probably just misinterpreted them because anything that's come out in the last several months or years that talks about Parliament and coins is a Lop
Young_SC KAP ITS IN PRINT FROM THE CBI BUT YET YOU SAY IT IS INCORRECT
Kaperoni Young_SC once again you have to understand if Parliament is involved in monetary policy there's only one reason for it. And that is substantiated by any other country who has Parliament get involved in their currency they want to change the physical value of it and that requires a law. If the CBI was going to RV they have full control to do so they don't need Parliament
Dave translation error with the word NO???????
Young_SC Kap i will post it again
Young_SC In addition to the results achieved on the scope of monetary policy applications internally and convince global financial organizations, the most important official reports issued by them confirmed the success of the policy of the Central Bank to achieve an important transition to the Iraqi economy and achieve stability in the exchange rate and the recovery of the Iraqi dinar and raise its purchasing power, one of the objectives of strengthening the economy.
Dave Young_SC and again and again and again and again and again
Young_SC http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17644
Young_SC https://www.mawazin.net/Details.aspx?Jimare=61023
Young_SC Kap for you Read them man
Kaperoni That is too general of a statement. If they lop and then raise the value from their clearly they're increasing the purchasing power and that is the intent of Parliament.
Young_SC From the direct source No economist
Young_SC FROM THE CBI AND FINANCE MINSTER
Kaperoni People need to realize that if Parliament has their way and they Lop and then they raise the currency afterwards that is an increase in purchasing power.
Then some will say what why would they lie because they needed to reduce the money supply so that is the reason why Parliament wants to be involved they want to reduce trillions to billions and then raise the value after that which again you will never make much money if such an event occurs
Young_SC Kaperoni Why do you keep saying LOP Where is the LOP word in those articles Show me
Kaperoni So we don't want Parliament involved. We want them to do what I have been saying for years now and that is to float the currency from where it is right now and there are several articles that I have given two zig who gave to the moderator who posted on this website the call for a direct float.
That makes the most sense especially when they're working feverishly to bring in billions of dollars to rebuild their economy via a private sector. Because they will need a tool to counter the pressure that is Created from the influx of capital
Tebow no influx of investment at the current rate with a float
Young_SC I DONT UNDERSTAND WHERE ARE YOU SEEING LOP
Young_SC KAP DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT A LOP IS
Young_SC DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HORRIBLE A LOP IS FOR THE CITIZENS
Kaperoni Tebow you have no idea what you're talking about Investors aren't coming to a country because of the exchange rate of the dinar they're coming to the country to rebuild and make money by creating a private sector. It has nothing to do with the exchange rate
Kaperoni And as the GDP of the country grows so will the currency Young_SC
Kaperoni Young_SC young I don't have to show you anything but if Parliament is involved they want to pass a law that is all you need to know because there would be no need for them otherwise use your head
Dave Young_SC out of luck their
Young_SC Kaperoni you say random things and you dont want to show us or prove it
Kaperoni There cannot be any significant RV of the Iraqi dinar. That's all anyone needs to know there's too much currency in circulation I don't care about anything else that in itself is enough once you understand that then you have to look for alternatives
Kaperoni Young_SC I have shown and proved it over and over and over again you just refuse to look
Kaperoni But I got to go I got things to do so bash away enjoy your day
xyzIraqi parliament announces its intention to discuss the legitimate demands of the demonstrators
https://www.sana.sy/?p=1028429
Baghdad and a number of Iraqi provinces today witnessed the emergence of sporadic demonstrations demanding better services and job opportunities, while a parliamentary source confirmed that the Iraqi parliament will discuss the demands of the demonstrators at its next meeting on Saturday.
The Iraqi News Agency conscious of the Iraqi Joint Operations Department as saying that the security situation under full control despite the presence of some gatherings of demonstrators.
The agency said that the curfew came into force in Baghdad and several provinces to block the way for engineers who want to distort peaceful demonstrations, noting that the imposition of curfew also entered into force in the provinces of Babylon and Diwaniya.
For his part, a parliamentary source said that the Iraqi Council of Representatives will discuss at its meeting next Saturday demonstrations witnessed in Baghdad and several provinces and said that the meeting will also discuss the demands of the demonstrators and ways to meet the legitimate ones.
Meanwhile, an informed source said that representatives of the demonstrators expressed their readiness to meet the invitation of Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi to discuss the legitimate demands.
"The prime minister's office has received many contacts in this regard and things augur well," the source said, adding that the contacts came after the prime minister's office allocated the numbers to be contacted by the protesters' representatives.
The Information Office of the Iraqi Prime Minister announced the continuation of continuous contacts with representatives of peaceful demonstrators to consider legitimate requests.
Earlier in the day, the Iraqi government announced a curfew in Baghdad from 5 a.m. until further notice on the back of the violence that accompanied the demonstrations in the capital and some ot
xyz Abdul Mahdi's speech addresses the Iraqi people http://www.steppress.net/?p=23902
xyz 33 dead after Iraqi protesters defy curfew in 3rd day of unrest https://globalnews.ca/news/5987228/irqa-anti-government-protests-deaths/
xyz Iraq's PM calls for talks as thousands of protesters defy curfew https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/iraq-pm-calls-talks-thousands-protesters-defy-curfew-191003161024820.html
Xyz 10-3-2019 Intel Guru Frank26 I think Alaq is going to say a lot tomorrow...They moved 12 trucks, gigantic armored trucks out of the green zone. They were escorted by Blackwater and whoever else...
they escorted these 12 armored trucks and Alaq went on television and he told the citizens, 'we are moving these 12 armored vehicles to undisclosed destination.' He told the people the trucks were loaded with funds.
There's no doubt these are the lower denoms because the day before he told them, 'I'm going to give you the lower denoms.' And now he's telling them, 'look I'm moving them.'
But he's not telling them what funds they are...it's possible they are either going to show them tomorrow the pictures of the lower denoms or Saturday...I really think this week they are going to show it to them...
IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 10-3-19 Part 2 of 2
. IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 10-3-19 Part 2 of 2
madness well my theory has been if I was a country leader, happy new year and come out with a bang, but now you have riots 7 dead over 400 wounded not looking good for us
Young_SC Every day its the same people complaining about this or about that well then to solve the problem
Young_SC Cash Out
madness lol cash out where?
Young_SC Young_SC go cash out your dinar at the bank to get your money bank
Young_SC Or exchange currency
madness you must mis interpret what im saying, the dinar is going, I just think this could be a major set back for all us holders GET IT
Young_SC Did people ever think that at its most horrible moment that finally the citizens will get what they want from the GOI based on the list of demands
Young_SC madness major set back in what way?
Young_SC madness if you read the news then you will know why they are protesting
IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 10-3-19 Part 2 of 2
madness well my theory has been if I was a country leader, happy new year and come out with a bang, but now you have riots 7 dead over 400 wounded not looking good for us
Young_SC Every day its the same people complaining about this or about that well then to solve the problem
Young_SC Cash Out
madness lol cash out where?
Young_SC Young_SC go cash out your dinar at the bank to get your money bank
Young_SC Or exchange currency
madness you must mis interpret what im saying, the dinar is going, I just think this could be a major set back for all us holders GET IT
Young_SC Did people ever think that at its most horrible moment that finally the citizens will get what they want from the GOI based on the list of demands
Young_SC madness major set back in what way?
Young_SC madness if you read the news then you will know why they are protesting
madness that is a good assumption and I hope your are right
Young_SC You do know why they are protesting right?
madness they may have to finally move quick to RI, so im hoping for the best on that
madness yes they are pissed off of the corruption
Young_SC madness exactly
madness cant blame them
Young_SC Bingo
Young_SC You should inform Chattels too
Young_SC On why they are protesting
madness but giving people purchasing power when they have no job to even make money is really stupid, you have to make money to spend it
madness I would be pissed too
madness guess its better to be pissed off than pissed on
Young_SC madness unemployment is one of the reasons for the protesting aswell
madness yes exactly they have 7 demands, they also want the currency auctions to stop, they have promised those poor people so much and have not delivered squat
Young_SC madness and that is why tbey are protesting
Young_SC So are you sure it will be a smart thing for the GOI to tell the citizens they have to wait 3 to 6 more months for their demands?
madness well it could go both ways for us holders, fingers crossed the GOI grows a half a brain and does the right thing, but this is iraq were talking about
Young_SC GOI will get replaced if demands are not delivered aswell
madness no I agree with you, there about to have a dam major war on there hands, they better step up to the plate and do the right thing
Young_SC madness bingo
madness im worried we the US might have to step in as well
Young_SC madness US is already there
Young_SC Always have been
madness they were doing so good too I was getting a little proud of them, then nope lets be idiots and not follow through on anything that would help the people
madness I know
madness well one thing is for sure there is no turning back, there at a break point now
madness its called fight phuuck or hit the fence, wonder what there going to do
Young_SC This protest came for a reason
Young_SC And now the citizens will be taken seriously
madness yeah all the politicians are stealing the entires countrys wealth
madness guess I cant throw stones I dont like politics but we have a gaggle of idiots here in the US too
Young_SC Like i said, the whole reason for this investment is directly for the citizens of Iraq to receive their purchasing power it is not directly for us. We just benefit because we bought the dinar at a low rate and will prosper when they change their rate. That is all
Young_SC People like Kap forget
Young_SC And most do
madness kap is hell bent on convincing every person this will never happen
Young_SC We here in North America are the ants
Young_SC When it comes to this matter with Iraq
madness but with that said one must ask, if your so hell bent on that idea, what the hell are you doing with all your time this far out
Young_SC madness what do you mean
madness I call them trolls, if you think its never going to happen, then fine thanks for the advice and move on, why spend so much time saying the same krap on dinar sites, let us wallow in our sorrow if it does not happen, my research tells me different
Young_SC madness i thought the samething to
Young_SC That is a key question
madness yeah you must have one damm lonley life to spend this much time convincing people this is never going down, hell if he spent half the time doing this bs and maybe go find a nice lady he might get ahead in life, there is always an angle,
madness not you young I meant krappy
Young_SC madness lolol
Young_SC And Kap is soo presistent about it too
Young_SC Which to me is a mystery
madness matter of fact if I wanted any krap from him I would squeeze his head, my buddy who brought me into this thinks he is a troll plant, there to try to get people to unload there dinar, taking a step back kind of seems that way
madness no he has an agenda where not that stupid, he may think we are,
Young_SC I find that there is a lot of confusion being placed out there to confuse people and misdirect them
Young_SC Kap created the narrative of Iraq falling into a LOP to bring it to 1 to 1 and then float
madness yep, sure is and what a waste of space, Hey jerk off were not selling our dinar, even it never goes, it was still a fun ride
Young_SC What in the world does that mean LOL that is insane
Young_SC What kind of nonsense is he saying
Young_SC LOP is decreasing the value your money
madness well he does say the opposite of what the cbi says, so thats a clue right there
Young_SC The dinar is worth nothing now
madness lol yeah how take you take nothing from nothing
madness in the words of raw eddie murphy nothing form nothing leaves nothing lol
Young_SC Lolol
madness now rumor is companies are trying to buy back your dinar go figure
biff Happy Independence Day Iraq!!!
madness even if he was right about some of the stuff he says, just boggles the mind how a person spends or expends so much darn energy on something he believes nothing about. ????
madness what a trip, some people have too much time on there hands
Andrewetoldthem 1st of dinar investor i like to say thank you for being honest about saying the nasdaq contract with iraq begun on 10/1 but now my question is do you think before you speak or you just blurr out your answers like a kid thats in 3rd grade
how could nasdaq only promote software for another country when nasdaq is a * software it self now 3rd i taught you say the 2020 budget was post rate change now you saying they not ready to change the rate
now i want to be clear on something iraq only have 4 phase not more then 4 in phase 4 its to go internationally they are international just not fully international yet they will be when they revalued their country and money thats why you hear them talk about mobile banking etc
thats international phase and they became international 10/1 when their 5 year contract with nasdaq begun now i know i never say that would of change the rate i just say it begin then and has a business person would you want to promote me for free when your company its 1 of the biggest company in new york?
now not for not least in the demonstration why you think the protester speak about abdul mahdi ? the rate will change and they will go fully international when abdul mahdi government its complete thats why all the protesters speak of him letting the government know they better get the education ministry voted and sworn in or they got another thing coming
but me i think everytime they revealed the date when the education ministry will be voted in and sworn in that means its already done and that should be done on 10/5 and that happens then we get or revaluation and they will be fully international 2 on 10/24 them joinning the WTO BEgins now ask yourself that question can they join the WTO with a worthless money ?
madness bro that was a long post, and NO you cant join the wto with a worthless currency, matter of fact it would be an insult, but with the riots going on well have to see how this plays out
Andrewetoldthem madness lol but thank you buddy i was just tired of dinar investor keep insulting frank26 vital brad and his video not only he expose his self but he say the dummie reasons to justify it like a dems but since sept 21 his been piss off because he taught his calculation thats when the education ministry would of been sworn in aNd the fact when abdul mahdi and the parliament reveal everything after i told him and here that would of happen after the UN GA his been mad at the world then but anyways this say it all for him
Andrewetoldthem that video of iraq tells you they was going to be able to have the isx live on nasdaq that day it became live it didnt say nothing about nasdaq promoting a damn software for them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnRRruPe_EE
Andrewetoldthem and this their government youtube videos that show you everything getting done in iraq
Andrewetoldthem https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4NdpAYltpp4mq-e4I9HIHg
Andrewetoldthem this tell you their accession of WTO and then im going to post another link that tell you how a country joins the WTO
https://unctad.org/en/pages/PublicationWebflyer.aspx?publicationid=2384
Andrewetoldthem https://www.thebalance.com/how-does-a-country-become-a-wto-member-3306362
Andrewetoldthem it was all pressure to push them to get things done because they speak of peace and doing right by their citizens that push them to get it done then
Three Presidencies in Iraq: Launching a Comprehensive National Dialogue
Last Updated: Thursday 03 October 2019 KSA 05:40 – GMT 02:40
Published Date: Wednesday 02 October 2019 KSA 20:35 – GMT 17:35
Source: Dubai-Arabic
Mohammed Halbousi and Barham Saleh and Adel Abdul Mahdi
The three presidencies in Iraq (the state, parliament and government) announced the formation of an official committee to deal with the demands of the demonstrators, launch a comprehensive national dialogue, as well as initiate the implementation of the Social Security Law.
AndrewetoldthemAbdul Mahdi receives the names of education candidates and revealed the date of arrival to Parliament
(Baghdad: Euphrates News) Revealed a member of the Education Committee of the House of Representatives Huda Jarallah, the handover of the names of candidates for the post of Minister of Education to Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi.
The MP
Jarallah said in a press statement, “The Parliamentary Education Committee sent the names of candidates for the post of the Federal Ministry of Education to the Presidency of the Council of Ministers, likely to have other names.”
madness well I thought while the GOI is well for a lack of better words incompetent, its the cbi that has to pull the trigger and I think the US treasury has a say too, so many players in the game makes it so convoluted
Andrewetoldthem madness THE CBI was clear on it when they say they have to form a fully gov before they able to do anything thats why the protestors had demand on it and the 2 most important 1s was to fully form their gov then revalued their country and money
Andrewetoldthem Halbousi invites coordinators of demonstrations to attend the session on Saturday
Halbousi invites coordinators of demonstrations to attend the session on Saturday
Andrewetoldthem Iraqi Prime Minister announces curfew in Baghdad until further notice
Andrewetoldthem we get the education ministry voted and sworn in then we get the revalued because theirs only 4 phase thats 1 and 2 to stop the madness and 3 then they will be fully stable
Andrewetoldthem even if sparky narcisse disagree and wont to see us fail even him he know better that nasdaq doesnt promote no damn software when they already a *software itself
Andrewetoldthem well i post all the truth now its time to see iraq keep their truth and promise protest finish at 2pm today thats almost morning over there when we a sleep they awake
madness well lets hope for the best, off to work be safe
IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 10-3-19 Part 1 of 2
.QD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 10-3-19 Part 1 of 2
Portmagaland Deano The majority in here think it's going to RV that's why we all got into this game, so there's the answer to your poll
Deano @Portmagaland I certainly agree
Portmagaland Deano TWWIII said he negotiated a 1% fee with his bank when this pops and made and then made it sound like his bank knows about the RV. This is something the TNT crew talks about, their bank stories, so I was wondering about TWIII, is a TNT crew member?
Tebow xyz they can't reduce the money supply. Iraqis like us are not going to turn in their large notes.
Deano How much is in circulation 34 trillion ???
Tebow Deano no one knows
Dave wish we chatted more about the relevant events going dpwn in Iraq rather this Kap/guru bashing
Dave posted o few cool articles .......no response
Dave Demonstrations ,shutting down green zone, 15 days for arrest warrants to be issued to prominent corrupt officials......
Tebow Dave anything they do to get action in Iraq is good, they're doing something
Dave used to chat about what is actually happening
sandyf @Zig Dave : 20 trillion.....40 trillion.....what's a few trillion among friends??......lol..... :na;
It not so much about the actual amount. The CBI has an IQD denominated liability in respect of the currency that has been issued. This liability is underpinned by assets but the bulk of the assets are foreign currency denominated.
If the IQD were to rise in value the liability would increase but the asset value would remain the same. There is only about 8% equity in the CBI accounts so it would not take much of a rise in the value of the IQD for the CBI to be bankrupt.
IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 10-3-19 Part 1 of 2
Portmagaland Deano The majority in here think it's going to RV that's why we all got into this game, so there's the answer to your poll
Deano @Portmagaland I certainly agree
Portmagaland Deano TWWIII said he negotiated a 1% fee with his bank when this pops and made and then made it sound like his bank knows about the RV. This is something the TNT crew talks about, their bank stories, so I was wondering about TWIII, is a TNT crew member?
Tebow xyz they can't reduce the money supply. Iraqis like us are not going to turn in their large notes.
Deano How much is in circulation 34 trillion ???
Tebow Deano no one knows
Dave wish we chatted more about the relevant events going dpwn in Iraq rather this Kap/guru bashing
Dave posted o few cool articles .......no response
Dave Demonstrations ,shutting down green zone, 15 days for arrest warrants to be issued to prominent corrupt officials......
Tebow Dave anything they do to get action in Iraq is good, they're doing something
Dave used to chat about what is actually happening
sandyf @Zig Dave : 20 trillion.....40 trillion.....what's a few trillion among friends??......lol..... :na;
It not so much about the actual amount. The CBI has an IQD denominated liability in respect of the currency that has been issued. This liability is underpinned by assets but the bulk of the assets are foreign currency denominated.
If the IQD were to rise in value the liability would increase but the asset value would remain the same. There is only about 8% equity in the CBI accounts so it would not take much of a rise in the value of the IQD for the CBI to be bankrupt.
Xbruster69 Eddie Cross reveals when NEW Zimbabwe currency will be released, heaps praises on Mnangagwa..
Madness wow things are heating up
larrykn Iraqi protests turn deadly as security forces open fire on demonstrators https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44104/Iraqi-protests-turn-deadly-as-security-forces-open-fire-on-demonstrators
larrykn Heavy security in Baghdad day after 2 protesters killed https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44107/Heavy-security-in-Baghdad-day-after-2-protesters-killed
larrykn UN expresses concern over violence in Iraq protests https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44110/UN-expresses-concern-over-violence-in-Iraq-protests
mo fo hope the riots help the iqd and the citizens- but like before just talk from gov
larrykn mo fo does seem that the people are getting tired of not having anything.
3 Oct 19, 06:31 AM larrykn Social media users: Green Zone will fall by Iraqi youth https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44113/Social-media-users-Green-Zone-will-fall-by-Iraqi-youth
larrykn Fire breaks out inside Engineers Syndicate in Dhi Qar https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44116/Fire-breaks-out-inside-Engineers-Syndicate-in-Dhi-Qar
larrykn Defense Ministry orders troops to be on high alert as protests continue https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44124/Defense-Ministry-orders-troops-to-be-on-high-alert-as-protests-continue
larrykn Gunfights breakout in southern Iraq as protests spread nationwide https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44120/Gunfights-breakout-in-southern-Iraq-as-protests-spread-nationwide
mo fo GO Iraqies
larrykn Hundreds demonstrate in airport road, 15 persons injured in Baghdad https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44121/Hundreds-demonstrate-in-airport-road-15-persons-injured-in-Baghdad
larrykn Iraq Gov’t Cuts off Internet Nationwide amid Fears of mass Massacre https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44127/Iraq-Gov-t-Cuts-off-Internet-Nationwide-amid-Fears-of-mass-Massacre
mo fo Sadre is behind all this
larrykn this should get the attention on the govenment. they better get going or the whole govenment will collapse. This might be the turning point for Iraq.
larrykn The people will only put up with so much before they react, seem they have hit that point now.
larrykn mo fo they say the youth, so I'm not sure if this is Sadre or not
Foxmulder Well same situation as in past yrs . Have an election...then protest . Anddddd repeat yr after yr . Clown show !!
mo fo foxmulder it is hard being a corrupt gov-
mo fo stop corruption is one of demands from protests
mo fo with Maliki running free says something about the gov
madness Iraq declares curfews as gunfights rage and protests spread nationwide
madness that does not sound like stability to me
foxmulder madness not at all
larrykn madness no but it looks like the govenment will have to get things done and stop putting things off. which is good for us
Doug_W I totally agree madness
madness well they have 7 dead and 400 wounded
Madness either they give the people purchasing power or kick the can down the road
madness I think baxters dime just got tear gassed which is a bummer
foxmulder No services, constant electricity... jobs ... it's a mess . Same ole same ole situation
foxmulder madness LOL
madness yeah and fox they even cut off the internet great way to make people happy
foxmulder madness oh I know ! Just great .
Madness you cut off my internet and I cant play my games, you would have a war on your hands too
madness iraq better do something quick and real quick this cant keep up, if you were an investor what would you be thinking, ummm think I will take my money somewhere else till you all get your krap together. hence bad news for us
madness and that poor dime
mikexx This gives a really good incite. This is the real Iraq https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5d4qodBtNs
mikexx Guys, watch what i just posted
mikexx Hi Doug, it's about the protests and corrupt Iraqi government, very interesting
Madness wow excellent video, geez we are so screwed, still keeping my iqd but damm this is not looking good for us at this point in time, seems to me what good is giving people purchasing power if they dont have a darn job, how can you spend money if you cant make it??
Chattels There is a lot of foolishness to go around already. The need of some people to call others out as fools seems useless to me.
chattels Iraqi authorities close Baghdad’s Green Zone since it is a possible target of demonstrators. https://hathalyoum.net/articles/2155306-بغداد-تعيد-إغلاق-المنطقة-الخضراء-حتى-إشعار-آخر-جراء-
chattels Iraqi MP from Sairoon Coalition: we are with the protesters 100%.
Iraqi Human Rights Commission: protests in 9 provinces. 4 killed, 294 injured, & 120 arrested. https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/middleeast/iraq/0210201917
chattels Renewed demonstrations in Dhi Qar .. The death toll has risen to 120 dead and wounded
https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/middleeast/iraq/031020197
chattels Iraq: Death toll rises as protests escalate https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/middleeast/iraq/031020195
Chattels Abdul Mahdi announces a curfew in Baghdad until further notice https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/middleeast/iraq/03102019
chattels Things are looking good, eh ?
Doug_W not really "C"
chattels The Iraqi Economic Council calls for diversifying the sources of the national economy by revitalizing the tourism sector
https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/business/02102019
chattels Ah, there is the answer, eh ?
chattels I am lining up to go over there right now. NOT.
foxmulder chattels Good Morning.. it's as dysfunctional as it gets !
chattels Halbousi calls for the presence of representatives of the demonstrators to the parliament building to discuss their demands
https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/middleeast/iraq/0310201912
chattels The Parliament can make a lot more promises and the protestors will go away. Quite a plan.
Chattels Iraqi protesters say they will not stop until they arrive at Green Zone in Baghdad and remove corrupt officials. US & Arab nations warn their citizens in Green Zone. LINK
chattels Maybe they can form another " high level committee ".
chattels Baghdad / Nina / Foreign currency markets in Baghdad, on Wednesday, a slight rise in the exchange rate of the US dollar against the Iraqi dinar.
The market price in Baghdad today 1204 dinars per dollar, or 120 thousand and 400 dinars for one hundred dollars after it was yesterday 1203 dinars per dollar.
https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=790692
chattels For those who have declared that Iraq has done away with the position(s) of vice president, read the following.
chattels Nouri al-Maliki, a former vice president and prime minister who now serves in parliament, said in a radio interview at the end of August that he wanted to be vice president again and that the delay of President Barham Salih in choosing his deputies is “a clear violation of the constitution.”
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/iraq-parliament-mps-maliki.html#ixzz61IF2znDK
chattels " ............ others who were elected to parliament, including Maliki, former Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, former Interior Minister Qasim al-Araji, Basra Gov. Basra Assad al-Aydani and acting Kirkuk Gov. Rakan al-Jabouri, continue to refuse to take the oath of office and take up their legislative functions in the legislature. It appears that most if not all of them are seeking through this maneuver to keep their political options open for as long as they can."
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/iraq-parliament-mps-maliki.html#ixzz61IFVc4Ov
Doug_W Urgent .. US Embassy calls on its employees to leave Iraq immediately
chattels The Iraqi Constitution and the parliament's protocol have no deadline for the swearing-in of people elected to parliament. In addition, the parliament's presidency committee has blocked Article 18 of the protocol, which calls for the publication of the names of the legislators who have attended parliament and those who have not.
Article 18 reads, "In the event of repeated absence without a legitimate excuse five consecutive or 10 non-consecutive times during the annual session, a written warning shall be sent to the absent member inviting him to commit to attend. In case of noncompliance with the [parliamentary] presidency, the matter shall be submitted to the council [parliament] at the request of the committee.”
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/iraq-parliament-mps-maliki.html#ixzz61IFnFsAV
chattels “Parliament needs to amend the current laws but there is no real desire in this direction during the new legislative term. There are other laws and interrogations of ministers on the agenda.”
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/iraq-parliament-mps-maliki.html#ixzz61IFvMrs7
chattels When Abadi was prime minister in 2015, he decided to abolish the posts of vice president and deputy prime minister as part of his “reform package” in response to the demands of popular protests during the previous parliament session. There were three vice presidents and three deputy prime ministers at the time.
The Supreme Court, however, overturned Abadi’s decision in 2016, deeming it “unconstitutional,” especially since the constitution stipulates in Article 69 that the “law shall regulate the provision of selecting one or more vice president.”
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/iraq-parliament-mps-maliki.html#ixzz61IG9rwEf
chattels “The Iraqi parliament is in the process of redrafting its rules of procedure and interpreting the paragraphs on constitutional oath to lift any confusion regarding the refusal to attend the parliamentary session for political reasons or for other reasons," legislator Hussein al-Oqabi told Al-Monitor. “Several ideas and proposals are being considered regarding the new draft rules of procedure, most notably in relation to setting a time limit for taking the constitutional oath and the allowed number of absences for each member of parliament.”
It seems unlikely that the current parliament will amend the laws that have brought about this situation. The political blocs that dominate the political scene do not want to lose the benefits provided by the legislation in force. In the meantime, the blocs that formed the government (Sairoon and Fatah) are busy pondering the future of Abdul Mahdi because of doubts that he will complete his constitutional mandate.
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/iraq-parliament-mps-maliki.html#ixzz61IGTGtqa
chattels D - Y - S - F - U - N - C - T - I - O - N - A - L.
chattels And that's the way that it is from the news that I read out of Iraq on this Thursday, October 3, 2019.
Madness guess its safe to say, unless they get the iran corrupt idiots out of there, well will never see baxters dime
madness we were so focused on US vs Iran now look, they have in one week destabilized the whole country, there is no way an RI or rv or anything coming soon, bet the gurus say oh hey everything is ok send more donations, too bad thought for a moment this was going to be a good month for dinar holders, well guess its for sure maybe and thats a BIG maybe 2020
Young_SC madness well then cash out
Young_SC And where are you getting 2020 from
madness lol no I have to go to work dont have time plus I drank my iqd long ago
Young_SC CBI GOI never gave a date
Young_SC So im wondering for those who say 2020
Young_SC Its simple if no one see's this investment going in tbe positive way then cash out
Young_SC The*
Young_SC Then*
IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Evening 10-2-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Evening 10-2-19
Zig To access "FLOAT ARTICLES" sent to me by Kaperoni please go to https://www.iqdcalls.com/kaperoni.html also found on that page are Kaperoni's archived calls and his Tweets....IF you have interest...... :)
Kaperoni The document i sent with articles and the links. But most of the links come from media sites that may or may not exist any longer but who cares the article is still there to read. Media sites come and go all the time. That does not make the information any less credible or not.
Kaperoni Again, with excess of 42 trillion dinar outsife the banks which the cbi is liable for there can never be an overnight significant rv
Young_SC Kaperoni In addition to the results achieved on the scope of monetary policy applications internally and convince global financial organizations, the most important official reports issued by them confirmed the success of the policy of the Central Bank to achieve an important transition to the Iraqi economy and achieve stability in the exchange rate and the recovery of the Iraqi dinar and raise its purchasing power, one of the objectives of strengthening the economy.
Kaperoni The articles i sent range from 2018-2015 i think
Kaperoni Much of what you guys are posting you misinterpret when they talk about stability of the dinar they're talkin about a period of time. Time the IMF requires in order to get acceptance into Article VIII.
IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Evening 10-2-19
Zig To access "FLOAT ARTICLES" sent to me by Kaperoni please go to https://www.iqdcalls.com/kaperoni.html also found on that page are Kaperoni's archived calls and his Tweets....IF you have interest...... :)
Kaperoni The document i sent with articles and the links. But most of the links come from media sites that may or may not exist any longer but who cares the article is still there to read. Media sites come and go all the time. That does not make the information any less credible or not.
Kaperoni Again, with excess of 42 trillion dinar outsife the banks which the cbi is liable for there can never be an overnight significant rv
Young_SC Kaperoni In addition to the results achieved on the scope of monetary policy applications internally and convince global financial organizations, the most important official reports issued by them confirmed the success of the policy of the Central Bank to achieve an important transition to the Iraqi economy and achieve stability in the exchange rate and the recovery of the Iraqi dinar and raise its purchasing power, one of the objectives of strengthening the economy.
Kaperoni The articles i sent range from 2018-2015 i think
Kaperoni Much of what you guys are posting you misinterpret when they talk about stability of the dinar they're talkin about a period of time. Time the IMF requires in order to get acceptance into Article VIII.
And if you go back and read the IMF Article IV Consultations you will see that they all mentioned stability because that is what they're doing at this time but that isn't long-term in fact it can't be long term because if they're going to get an influx of capital into the economy it's going to create significant inflationary pressure in which an alternative tool is necessary
Kaperoni One of the articles I sent about the float is even more specific where it talks about the timing wasn't right in 2015 to float but once the conditions are in place and investment comes into the country then the conditions are ripe for a float so my point is these articles that you're reading or not absolute
Kaperoni Zig unfortunately you have a bunch of people in here that are very very naive either they're new to the dinar or they're just outright * and want to believe but they're in for a wake-up call when they realize that they'll never get rich overnight.
It might take him a year or two more but eventually they're going to realize that there's just too much money in circulation for any kind of an overnight RV and more importantly it's just not how things are done. The CBI is a professional organization and uses tools to control the economy in the in Iraq they would never just significantly RV the currency
Zig Dave : 20 trillion.....40 trillion.....what's a few trillion among friends??......lol..... :na;
Kaperoni Look it's okay to accept the fact that you got taken by a con man. You fell for his BS religious nonsense and fall for his crap everyday that is fake including his contacts that are fake but the fact is better that you know now than later that you're never going to get rich overnight
Kaperoni Zig exactly Ziggy doesn't matter anything over 2 trillion is too much
Young_SC In addition to the results achieved on the scope of monetary policy applications internally and convince global financial organizations, the most important official reports issued by them confirmed the success of the policy of the Central Bank to achieve an important transition to the Iraqi economy and achieve stability in the exchange rate and the recovery of the Iraqi dinar and raise its purchasing power, one of the objectives of strengthening the economy.
Kaperoni They've been using wheelbarrows for years what's the difference if they have to use them a few more? They're either going to do one of two things they're either going to Lop first to get to 1 to $1 exchange rate reducing the money supply from trillions to billions.
And then float the currency allowing it to rise. Or they're going to just float it from the beginning and allowed to gradually increase over time allowing them to reduce the money supply we don't know that answer yet but it's not going to RV
Young_SC Kap that statement was from the CBI
Zig Just say, Kap, I disagree with you and let it go.......
Zig Peeps get too worked up about all this.....we will either profit "somehow" or we will not......simple.....
Kaperoni You better off putting your time and energy into figuring this out on your own then listening to those morons. I've given you some good reading material through Zig you should all read it and then do some additional research to find out as much as you can about the transition to a market economy because that is the key to the success of the dinar. This is not some random event
Kaperoni What do you think they're talking about when Parliament gets involved? They're talking about taking the zeros off the notes it's in print it's in the Articles themselves they were added back in 2003 because of the significant inflation the currency is that a point now where they can remove them where they just simply take them off and introduce a new currency
it's a neutral event nobody makes any money and if the dinar appreciates beyond that then you would make money. But you're talking about maybe doubling your money at best or tripling your money certainly not the significant game that the gurus are perpetuating
Dave Kaperoni Sanctions killed their rate
Dave we bombed them into obscurity
Kaperoni But we don't want Parliament involved. And I'm pretty sure the IMF is told Iraq they don't want Parliament involved. And I think Iraq is figured out for themselves that they don't want to remove the zeros off the notes as Parliament as insisted.
So what we're hoping for is a significant amount of capital to come through the financial system and allowing the CBI then to float the currency which would allow the currency to go up drastically over months or years.
Dave but that is what Russia Turkey Belarus Mexico Kuwait did.....
Kaperoni And certainly it's not in Iraq's best interest to do that for their reputation internationally
Kaperoni Look I'm a dinar investor and I want to make money but I want to also know the truth I don't want to sit on the edge of my seat every day to some BS about it's going to happen today or tomorrow or this stage is done or other nonsense these gurus makeup. So I researched this investment and find the truth
Kaperoni Many of you think a float is just some kind of a idea or thought. But it's not its monetary policy. It's a tool and it's what most countries do. Most countries float and there's a reason for them doing what they do. And the CBI is creating the conditions now so that they can float the currency.
How do I know that? Because they've stated so. We're seeing a ton of effort put into the creation of a market economy and efforts to launch that which will create a substantial amount of capital in the country.
The result of all of that money flowing through the financial system will create inflationary pressure on the financial system and they must float to offset that pressure or they will lose control over the stability
Dave 1000 fils for that coke,......lol
Kaperoni So this is not some opinion or random thought this is well documented. This is what central banks do they don't do anything arbitrarily
Dave not hyperinflationary
Kaperoni So what I did today was give Zig a bunch of float articles many of the links probably don't work anymore but that's because the media companies no longer exist but the article does.
So educate yourself and read all of those and learn about monetary policy and creating the conditions you will feel much better about this investment
Deano rate comes out at $3.91 and floats up to $6.00. I can handle that.
Dave Deano weeha
Zig https://www.iqdcalls.com/kaperoni.html link to articles above archived calls..needs downloading, etc
Kaperoni Deano There's / 42 trillion dinar they can't RV at a dime and support that.
Dave Kaperoni yes you mentioned that cbi pays govt employees in sacks stuffed with cash
Kaperoni They have to reduce the money supply and they can't do under the current daily auction program. The only way they can do it is to reduce it gradually as they get people to bring the dinar into the banking system. Remember the CBI stated clearly that in excess of 45 trillion existed outside the banking system
Kaperoni Even if all of the money was electronic in the financial system and there wasn't any money outside the financial system they still couldn't just make the zeros go away because that would be a lop and anyone who held physical currency would be taking advantage. So they have to be treated equal both electronic currency and physical currency
Dave Kaperoni cash went to pay salaries
Dave cBI pays govt employees now....?
Kaperoni But the problem is like I've already said the CBI has already come out and stated clearly that there's an excessive 45 trillion outside the banking system. whatever the amount is it's it's a lot it's more than the world's money supply. And they need to reduce that before they could ever add any significant value to the currency.
Kaperoni So they either Lop, and Parliament gets their way. Or they reduce the money supply gradually and Float the currency
Dave I've already said the CBI has already come out and stated clearly that there's an excessive 45 trillion outside the banking system.
Dave show me pretty please
Kaperoni I just hope people that are in this chat room start getting their heads on straight and not listening to the guru nonsense because it's all fake. There is no overnight significant RV but I have to go so have a good day
Kaperoni Dave I posted in this chat room so you'll have to go back a few days and the link is already there I don't have time to find that article again but it's a direct published article of information from the CBI
Deano @Kaperoni It’s either this week or next week where they are actually going to come out with [Lower Denom] pictures IMO. It will be Allaq…to come out and say we’re ready to distribute the lower denoms. But before that, pictures and explanations of these lower denoms.om Frank26
Dave Kaperoni yes read it......printed was my take
Dave translation difficulties again i suppose
Deano Now what does those three initials stand for? And can you provide proof that this is wrong? I've asked Frank26 if he can provide any confirmation.
Dave even added braille
Dave printed 45 T to replace those old ones yrs back
Dave If wheel barrows and 1000 fils for a coke make the most reasonable sense from an economic perspective....... I really need to join up with TNT et-al
Zig None of the people out there have any control over this.....so take it all with that proverbial "Grain of Salt"......all we can do is either wait or quit.....
Xyz Zig 10-2-2019 Intel Guru Frank26 ...It's either this week or next week where they are actually going to come out with [Lower Denom] pictures IMO...It will be Allaq...to come out and say we're ready to distribute the lower denoms...But before that, pictures and explanation of these lower denoms...
Dave I just hope they ramp up the protests...read 15 days to issue warrants for the corruptors...or ????
Dave (BAGHDAD: Euphrates News) The parliamentary opposition announced its full solidarity with the legitimate demands of the demonstrators.
"It is regrettable that the country has witnessed a marked decline in the situation and the spread of popular protests in most areas of Baghdad and the provinces, and we express our deep regret over the deaths of demonstrators and security forces," the statement said.
He added, "While we call on the demonstrators from our people to take peaceful methods of demonstrating and expressing their protest and the preservation of public and private money and not to allow engineers to enter their ranks to miss the opportunity on their trainees and achieve the desired goals of demonstrations and sit-ins."
The opposition front announced today "its full solidarity with the legitimate demands of the demonstrators and we believe that all the declared demands are true demands and can be implemented with deliberate steps within a short period of time."
It demanded the following:
Zig Hey FLOATING is better than SINKING ya know......lol
Dave 1 - We call the Presidency of the House of Representatives to convene an emergency session and the presence of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces devoted to discuss security events and the development of legislative solutions and obligate the government to implement them.
2 - Compensation of the victims who died as a result of the recent demonstrations, whether civilians or security forces, and hold the negligent.
3- Providing job opportunities for our young people by operating factories and factories that are stopped after they are invested and withholding the privileges of special grades and presidencies and turning them into job grades for the unemployed.
4 - The Government to open the door of investment and overcome all obstacles and red tape that prevents the bringing of capital and technology to the country and give priority to the employment of local labor, especially in oil companies and dispensing with foreign workers.
5 - Referring all those who claim the economic work of the parties and committing the Supreme Council against Corruption to submit large corruption files to the judiciary and names and within a period not exceeding 15 days.
6- Obliging the two ministries of higher education to operate the degree holders by requiring universities to work on a system of separation from morning to evening.
Deano @Young_SC I'm not going to look down on anyone who does research. Hell I research topics and documents for school all the time lol. But I'm not going to bash anyone because I think I'm right and they're wrong
Young_SC Once the lower denoms come out for the citizens as quoted by the CBI a few times then the rate does have to change
Young_SC Lower notes do not line up with the 1190 rate right now
Young_SC Mathematically
Young_SC Deano That is why i told a few people including Baxter that honestly i think people should be paying attention to what Frank is saying
Doug_W Silver:$17.65
IQD CALLS Chat Early Wednesday 10-2-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Early Wednesday 10-2-19
Kaperoni Since Tebow likes economist Peace Sumaisem so much here is a much better article from her on the Iraqi economist website. lol
Kaperoni The important part....
Kaperoni The financial market is a necessary condition for completing the conditions of the market economy.
The stock market “according to the laws of the market economy” needs a set of measures in order to do its part, including:
1_ moving interest rates in banks according to the volume of trading of shares and other securities in the market,
(Ii) the freedom to enter and remove foreign currency;
3_ float the national currency exchange rate,
4_ and the freedom of foreign capital to invest in this market
Kaperoni I am putting about 20 articles together from Iraq experts and will email to Zig. He then can email any of you who still think your going to get rich overnight.
Kaperoni later.
IQD CALLS Chat Early Wednesday 10-2-19
Kaperoni Since Tebow likes economist Peace Sumaisem so much here is a much better article from her on the Iraqi economist website. lol
Kaperoni LINK
Kaperoni The important part....
Kaperoni The financial market is a necessary condition for completing the conditions of the market economy.
The stock market “according to the laws of the market economy” needs a set of measures in order to do its part, including:
1_ moving interest rates in banks according to the volume of trading of shares and other securities in the market,
(Ii) the freedom to enter and remove foreign currency;
3_ float the national currency exchange rate,
4_ and the freedom of foreign capital to invest in this market
Kaperoni I am putting about 20 articles together from Iraq experts and will email to Zig. He then can email any of you who still think your going to get rich overnight.
Kaperoni later.
Doug_W Silver:$17.35
chattels Baghdad protests turn violent, killing 1, injuring 200 https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/01102019
Doug_W what a mess
chattels Iraq removes military commander who defeated ISIS on the ground https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/28092019
chattels Erbil, Baghdad could reach deal on oil, budget in October: Oil Minister https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/280920192
chattels Iraq’s oil revenue stable for September https://www.rudaw.net/english/business/02102019
chattels Iraq 'needs a rest' from conflict: President Barham Salih https://www.rudaw.net/english/interview/01102019
chattels u met with US President Donald Trump. What was your main demand from him?
He commended Iraq’s progress. He spoke about US-Iraq relations, how to make efforts to improve such relations, and about building on Iraq’s progress. We spoke about the situation in the region post-Daesh [Islamic State].
He greatly praised victory over Daesh (Islamic State), describing it as a big achievement. Yet we will need to work to guarantee that terrorists do not come back to Iraq, and to the region as a whole. However, it needs a lot of work in terms of security, economy and politics.
chattels " it ( IRAQ ) needs a lot of work in terms of security, economy and politics."
Doug_W 4 sure
chattels Iraqi Security Media Cell: there were protests today demanding better government services & work opportunities in Baghdad & a number of provinces. The protests were accompanied by violence. 1 dead & 200 injured, including 40 from security forces.
chattels After protests today in Iraq with some violence, Iraqi PM Abdel-Mahdi announces investigation into the causes. http://mobp.as/DNbTp
chattels Reported video of Iraqi Security Forces firing on protesters in Baghdad’s Tahriir Square today.
chattels Breaking: Protest waves erupting in several neighborhoods in #baghdad #iraq , it is 3:21 AM and people are still taking to the street, using violence against the protesters increased their numbers by ten folds or more , Iraqi government made a critical miscalculation
chattels Sadr City earlier tonight, government forces shot and killed a young protester from the city, his entire tribe, friends, neighbors etc came out to mourn him, armed to the fullest. The PM has dug himsf in a deep hole
chattels https://twitter.com/JoelWing2
chattels https://twitter.com/thestevennabil
chattels Baghdad / Nina / Foreign currency markets in Baghdad, on Wednesday, a slight rise in the exchange rate of the US dollar against the Iraqi dinar.
The market price in Baghdad today 1204 dinars per dollar, or 120 thousand and 400 dinars for one hundred dollars after it was yesterday 1203 dinars per dollar.
https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=790692
chattels Tariq Harb calls for the formation of a high-level investigative committee to find out everything related to the ongoing demonstrations in Baghdad and a number of provinces
Wednesday 02 October 09:30 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=790670
chattels No electricity, no jobs and no money except for the corrupt elite for starters.
chattels Just what Iraq needs - another commission, but a high level one. This has become a sad tale and a bad joke.
chattels Have a fine day all.
larrykn One killed three injured in Baghdad`s demonstrations https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44101/One-killed-three-injured-in-Baghdad-s-demonstrations
larrykn Iran sentences man to death for spying for the CIA https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44102/Iran-sentences-man-to-death-for-spying-for-the-CIA
larrykn Iraq’s parliament calls for UN action on attacks on Popular Mobilization Forces https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44103/Iraq-s-parliament-calls-for-UN-action-on-attacks-on-Popular-Mobilization-Forces
larrykn Military intelligence kill ISIS leader, four aides in Salahuddin https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44106/Military-intelligence-kill-ISIS-leader-four-aides-in-Salahuddin
larrykn Iraqi protests turn deadly as security forces open fire on demonstrators https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44104/Iraqi-protests-turn-deadly-as-security-forces-open-fire-on-demonstrators
larrykn Heavy security in Baghdad day after 2 protesters killed https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44107/Heavy-security-in-Baghdad-day-after-2-protesters-killed
larrykn Iraqi protests enter second day after clashes with security forces https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44109/Iraqi-protests-enter-second-day-after-clashes-with-security-forces
Larrykn UN expresses concern over violence in Iraq protests https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44110/UN-expresses-concern-over-violence-in-Iraq-protests
larrykn 8 Iraqi injured in second day of protests https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44111/8-Iraqi-injured-in-second-day-of-protests
Young_SC futuremoney Clay do you agree with kap that it will take 20 years lol
Clay no way
Clay Iraq will be gone by then if they dont move on with the rest of the world
Clay and the protesting would turn very violent
Clay a civil war
Young_SC Lolol
Young_SC Clay some people prefer to make up theories or go by old testimonies thinking what was appropriate 10 or 6 years ago is not appropriate now because of conditions or circumstances
Young_SC Some cannot grasp onto that instead they get emotional and hold on to outdated information proclaiming that they are always correct while everyone else's opinion is beneath them
Clay agree
Clay Iraq needs to rejoin the world
Clay not be left behind
Clay and 4 US security we need to make sure they do
Clay dont need more radicals
Deano So I have a question for Kap. These documents you're going to email to Zig, how old are they? 5-10 years? 10-15 years?
Zig To access "FLOAT ARTICLES" sent to me by Kaperoni please go to https://www.iqdcalls.com/kaperoni.html also found on that page are Kaperoni's archived calls and his Tweets....IF you have interest...... :)
Kaperoni The document i sent with articles and the links. But most of the links come from media sites that may or may not exist any longer but who cares the article is still there to read. Media sites come and go all the time. That does not make the information any less credible or not.
Kaperoni Again, with excess of 42 trillion dinar outsife the banks which the cbi is liable for there can never be an overnight significant rv
Young_SC Kaperoni In addition to the results achieved on the scope of monetary policy applications internally and convince global financial organizations, the most important official reports issued by them confirmed the success of the policy of the Central Bank to achieve an important transition to the Iraqi economy and achieve stability in the exchange rate and the recovery of the Iraqi dinar and raise its purchasing power, one of the objectives of strengthening the economy.
Kaperoni The articles i sent range from 2018-2015 i think
Young_SC http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17644
Young_SC Kap what i just posted is from the CBI
Young_SC take some time to read it
Young_SC https://www.mawazin.net/Details.aspx?Jimare=61023
Zig https://www.iqdcalls.com/kaperoni.html To access articles sent to IQD Calls via me today from Kaperoni.....link is above archived calls
Young_SC Kaperoni the second one is from the Finance Minister
Young_SC Kap none of your articles comes the CBI nor from the Finance Minister
Young_SC I do not care for an economist report
Deano @Kap. And what gives you the right to say Frank26 or anyone else for that matter is dead wrong? I'm not choosing sides because I'll call anyone out. But you say everyone is wrong and you're right.
Young_SC Deano LOL
Kaperoni Much of what you guys are posting you misinterpret when they talk about stability of the dinar they're talkin about a period of time. Time the IMF requires in order to get acceptance into Article VIII.
And if you go back and read the IMF Article IV Consultations you will see that they all mentioned stability because that is what they're doing at this time but that isn't long-term in fact it can't be long term because if they're going to get an influx of capital into the economy it's going to create significant inflationary pressure in which an alternative tool is necessary
Kaperoni One of the articles I sent about the float is even more specific where it talks about the timing wasn't right in 2015 to float but once the conditions are in place and investment comes into the country then the conditions are ripe for a float so my point is these articles that you're reading or not absolute
Young_SC Kaperoni Ahhhh so what i posted is translation error ehhh
Young_SC Always a translation error
Dave Kaperoni you just mentioned the note count was more than 20 T in your opinion.......back to 42 T today i see????
Kaperoni Xig unfortunately you have a bunch of people in here that are very very naive either they're new to the dinar or they're just outright stupid and want to believe but they're in for a wake-up call when they realize that they'll never get rich overnight.
It might take him a year or two more but eventually they're going to realize that there's just too much money in circulation for any kind of an overnight RV and more importantly it's just not how things are done. The CBI is a professional organization and uses tools to control the economy in the in Iraq they would never just significantly RV the currency
Young_SC Kaperoni Did you take 20 seconds to look at the two articles i just posted?
Zig Dave : 20 trillion.....40 trillion.....what's a few trillion among friends??......lol..... :na;
Kaperoni Look it's okay to accept the fact that you got taken by a con man. You fell for his BS religious nonsense and fall for his crap everyday that is fake including his contacts that are fake but the fact is better that you know now than later that you're never going to get rich overnight
Kaperoni Zig exactly Ziggy doesn't matter anything over 2 trillion is too much
Young_SC In addition to the results achieved on the scope of monetary policy applications internally and convince global financial organizations, the most important official reports issued by them confirmed the success of the policy of the Central Bank to achieve an important transition to the Iraqi economy and achieve stability in the exchange rate and the recovery of the Iraqi dinar and raise its purchasing power, one of the objectives of strengthening the economy.
Kaperoni They've been using wheelbarrows for years what's the difference if they have to use them a few more? They're either going to do one of two things they're either going to Lop first to get to 1 to $1 exchange rate reducing the money supply from trillions to billions.
And then float the currency allowing it to rise. Or they're going to just float it from the beginning and allowed to gradually increase over time allowing them to reduce the money supply we don't know that answer yet but it's not going to RV
Young_SC Kap that statement was from the CBI
Zig Just say, Kap, I disagree with you and let it go.......
Zig Peeps get too worked up about all this.....we will either profit "somehow" or we will not......simple.....
IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Night 10-1-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Night 10-1-19
Dave as banking is no where in Iraq ...CBI needs to make money somehow?
Dave any of you folks familiar with fractional indexing used by banks?
Wilder Dave couldn't find indexing. Fractional banking. Fractional reserve banking is a banking system in which banks only hold a fraction of the money their customers' deposit as reserves.
This allows them to use the rest of it to make loans and thereby essentially create new money. This gives commercial banks the power to directly affect the money supply
Dave and leverage each loan up to 1000times
Wilder And not including collateral.
Dave Cbi makes 9 % on each loan a bank writes
Tebow wish I could make 9%
Dave just over 20% of the pop use banks currently......
Tebow we go to negative rates in the states, that will be here
Dave Wilder suspect SandyF will give us an education on this
Wilder They need to do just like our country here. Just keep the printing presses running. Raise the rate backed with nothing.
IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Night 10-1-19
Dave as banking is no where in Iraq ...CBI needs to make money somehow?
Dave any of you folks familiar with fractional indexing used by banks?
Wilder Dave couldn't find indexing. Fractional banking. Fractional reserve banking is a banking system in which banks only hold a fraction of the money their customers' deposit as reserves.
This allows them to use the rest of it to make loans and thereby essentially create new money. This gives commercial banks the power to directly affect the money supply
Dave and leverage each loan up to 1000times
Wilder And not including collateral.
Dave Cbi makes 9 % on each loan a bank writes
Tebow wish I could make 9%
Dave just over 20% of the pop use banks currently......
Tebow we go to negative rates in the states, that will be here
Dave Wilder suspect SandyF will give us an education on this
Wilder They need to do just like our country here. Just keep the printing presses running. Raise the rate backed with nothing.
Xyz From well respected Iraqi economist back in march 2015.. Kaperoni were you sleeping in March 2015?
ء Economy Thursday, March 5, 2015 06:10 PM
Expert: delete the zeros supports the national currency and reduce inflation in the country
BAGHDAD / ... confirmed an economic expert d. Peace Sumaisem, on Thursday, on the importance of the subject of the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi dinar, considering it as a support of the national currency, and a reduction of inflation in the country.
Sumaisem said, in a statement to "Ein Iraq News", " delete the zeros includes two basic objectives, the deletion of zeros, and the restructuring of the Iraqi currency, instead of the $ 100 equals 120 000 Iraqi dinars, after deleting three zeros become a $ 100 equals 100 Iraqi dinars, which is equal to the dollar and the dinar This means strengthening the Iraqi currency. "
"The country suffers deficit as Iraq does not it can support its currency unless received grants from third parties, and whether this possible implementation it is important, reframes the value of the currency indirectly supporting the national currency, and when structuring currency returned it reduces inflation Iraq ". Finished / 13
Wilder xyz and the crowd goes wild. Applause with a standing ovation.
Tebow Guru xyz strengthening the Iraqi currency. Thank you for that!
TWWIII My CCU MGR call me at noon to see if I could come down today. She said there may be an event we've discussed. This pertains to another branch meeting Friday.. They wanted me to talk abt a Certification of Trust-WA.I was asked to bring my report (not my currencies) of what I have. They would like, when it happens, to do my exchanges. They agreed with me at only a 1% exchange fee.
TWWIII They have had many many training sessions. I mentioned I have hired The Protection Group LLC.
Dave 1% thats good.....
TWWIII Dave What a long talk today we had.
HOT PEPPER you know, you are still going to have to pay the Capital Gains Tax, no way around it
TWWIII HOT PEPPER Yes on the interest
HOT PEPPER and pricpal also
Wilder TWWIII rate?
HOT PEPPER Princpal*
TWWIII Wilder rate, ????
HOT PEPPER why tie up your money ? get it out there in circulation, make money with it Guys
Tebow HOT PEPPER lt's going to be taxed as income not capital gains
TWWIII Wilder They do not have a rate, at least she said they don't yet
HOT PEPPER same thing
HOT PEPPER different name
HOT PEPPER theres no difference
Wilder TWWIII Never mind. I misread. Sorry
HOT PEPPER just being honest and straight forward with it
TWWIII HOT PEPPER You have no idea of our humanitarian plans we have.We will be putting a large amt of money in circulation.
HOT PEPPER Oh I do Know
HOT PEPPER I got 15 of them
Dave what if you just travelled around your city and exchange a few notes a day at the different forexes
HOT PEPPER one rate
TWWIII Not sure
HOT PEPPER unless you make a deal with the Bank for a higher rate , but the Bank decides why your money goes
HOT PEPPER where*
TWWIII HOT PEPPER Sorry dude, u weren't there with me
HOT PEPPER TWWII , I been in this since before Frank
HOT PEPPER 2002
TWWIII SO
HOT PEPPER I know what they are doing
Wilder Invest in Wilder bank then I'll file bankruptcy and leave the ****ry.
HOT PEPPER but hey no skin oiff my chin
TWWIII I have been buying, selling & trading medals & currencies since the 80's
HOT PEPPER Naw , don't leave guy, there are some really super good oppertunitues ahead of you
HOT PEPPER well anyone can do that WWII
HOT PEPPER the trick is where is it going ?
HOT PEPPER futures
HOT PEPPER inside track
HOT PEPPER that you don't know my friend
TWWIII U have no clue abt me sir & my family nor our foundation
Dave Deano been torpedoed too many times
HOT PEPPER TwwII, look im not here to get in a pissing match with you
HOT PEPPER you have followed the trend that has been going on for 200 years
TWWIII Nor am I
HOT PEPPER all that is about to change, a new way of thinking
HOT PEPPER sso lets learn from one another
Tebow HOT PEPPER 2002 hummmm The current Iraqi dinar did not come out until sept 2003
HOT PEPPER right, but I knew about it ahead of time
HOT PEPPER the areas of a good program will be in areas of Housing, Food ,Water and Medical, and Energy
Dave xyz From well respected Iraqi economist back in march 2015.. Kaperoni were you sleeping in March 2015? ....
ء Economy Thursday, March 5, 2015 06:10 PM
Expert: delete the zeros supports the national currency and reduce inflation in the country
BAGHDAD / ... confirmed an economic expert d. Peace Sumaisem, on Thursday, on the importance of the subject of the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi dinar, considering it as a support of the national currency, and a reduction of inflation in the country.
Sumaisem said, in a statement to "Ein Iraq News", " delete the zeros includes two basic objectives, the deletion of zeros, and the restructuring of the Iraqi currency, instead of the $ 100 equals 120 000 Iraqi dinars, after deleting three zeros become a $ 100 equals 100 Iraqi dinars, which is equal to the dollar and the dinar This means strengthening the Iraqi currency. "
"The country suffers deficit as Iraq does not it can support its currency unless received grants from third parties, and whether this possible implementation it is important, reframes the value of the currency indirectly supporting the national currency, and when structuring currency returned it reduces inflation Iraq ". Finished / 13 http://aynaliraqnews.com/index.php?aa=news&id22=33283
Wilder xyz and the crowd goes wild. Applause with a standing ovation.
Doug_W I second that Wilder
Tebow well respected Iraqi economist. 1 to 1 ...... That's not a float
Dean ooh but @Tebow they're going to float for sure
Wilder Dave you can scrap your wheelbarrow now.
Dave Wilder Kap;s not mine.....
Dave 1000 fils for that coke though....??;
Dave if that aint hyper-inflationary.....
Wilder If it's 1 to 1. I'll buy a case
Dave no at .00086 and gradually raise it
Dave a case would take one of Baxs semis
Wilder No float
Xyz Tebow 10-1-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni The Iraq government is striving to create a market economy with private investment. Doing so would bring substantial money into the country.
This would create inflationary pressure on the financial system, the solution is to float the currency to relieve that pressure. It also would allow the CBI to profit by controlling the currency, buying and selling making commissions. Any kind of RV would circumvent those tools. [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]
xyz 10-1-2019 Intel Guru MarkZ I am looking for a fantastic day…If news is as good as I expect…..you will be hearing from me again today...Today
Tebow xyz private investment will not come into Iraq until they have a stable rate. Private investors want to make money. With a float it can go up or down in value. Thus they will not invest.
Kaperoni There not investing in the exchange rate. There investing in the private sector.
Kaperoni The tool to float the currency is to offset pressure created by the influx of capital from investors that causes inflation.
Tebow BAGHDAD / ... confirmed an economic expert d. Peace Sumaisem, on Thursday, on the importance of the subject of the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi dinar... Sumaisem said, in a statement to "Ein Iraq News", " delete the zeros includes two basic objectives, the deletion of zeros, and the restructuring of the Iraqi currency, instead of the $ 100 equals 120 000 Iraqi dinars, after deleting three zeros become a $ 100 equals 100 Iraqi dinars, which is equal to the dollar and the dinar This means strengthening the Iraqi currency. "
Kaperoni She also said in another article that it was time to float the currency so maybe you should read all the Articles not just one that goes to your cause because the one she's talking about there is a Lop
Kaperoni Again in excess of 42 trillion dinar in circulation outside the banking system makes it impossible to RV the currency. Impossible
Kaperoni You don't have to be any kind of scientist or expert to understand 42 trillion is more money than anyone could ever significantly RV
Kaperoni Even Sandy said the other day it's impossible to RV the currency within excessive 42 trillion
Xyz Kaperoni you are making silly and ridiculous statements
Kaperoni XYZ I don't talk about things I know nothing about unlike you
Tebow Kaperoni really you know nothing
xyz Kaperoni yes you do wagging imf documents as holy grail
Kaperoni No I'm not making silly and ridiculous statements I posted an article in this very chat room about a week ago that said clearly that the central bank had released information there was an excessive 42 trillion outside the banking system.
That is backed up by the IMF documents it's also backed up by independent Consultants and if you think those three organizations are lying just so that you can get rich off the dinar your fool
Tebow Kaperoni you have a float document?
Tebow Can you provide one FLOAT document to support your opinion?
Kaperoni There are many documents to talk about floating the currency but more importantly it's how central banks work it's what they do when you have an influx of capital into the financial system it creates pressure on the financial system you have to float the currency in order to offset that pressure there's no ifs ands or buts
Kaperoni And clearly everyone knows that Iraq is preparing for a market economy and a substantial amount of investment next year in excess of 80 billion dollars that's a substantial amount of money coming through the financial system of Iraq which clearly will create pressure
JoeSchmoe Kaperoni I'm curious. Why do you continually come in here where 99% of the people think you are full *? You continually say the same things over and over again, as if if you say them enough times, everyone will all of a sudden say, "Hey Kap, you are right. Thankyou so much for never going away!" It makes no sense why someone would purposely come in here when he knows everyone will give him *?
Kaperoni If they don't float the currency they will lose control of the financial system it will become unstable inflation will go through the roof
Tebow Kaperoni FLOAT document please?
Kaperoni I can tell you that you should be able to find them there are at least 10 to 20 of them discussing the float not to mention the IMF request to the Central Bank of Iraq
JoeSchmoe you may as well put your posts on a repeater, because I see the same thing from you every single time. In here, and in every recaps wanna be out there
Kaperoni Someone has to tell the truth *********** ******8
Tebow Kaperoni so again you do not have one
Kaperoni Believe me I have every document ever written that came out of the Middle East or any article or research paper I have them all but I don't share with *
Kaperoni But the dinar will never overnight RV that's a fact
Kaperoni You should know by now I don't have opinions I have fax everything I say is facts
Kaperoni . If the Dinars ever going to go up in value it'll go up based on sound principles and facts just like a doctor a surgeon they don't randomly go into someone I just cut them up and everything they do is based on sound factual information that's the same thing as a Central Bank of Iraq everything they do is based on sound factual information nothing is random ever
Kaperoni Have a good night enjoy your Dreamland
Tebow BAGHDAD / ... confirmed an economic expert d. Peace Sumaisem, on Thursday, on the importance of the subject of the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi dinar... Sumaisem said, in a statement to "Ein Iraq News", " delete the zeros includes two basic objectives, the deletion of zeros, and the restructuring of the Iraqi currency, instead of the $ 100 equals 120 000 Iraqi dinars, after deleting three zeros become a $ 100 equals 100 Iraqi dinars, which is equal to the dollar and the dinar This means strengthening the Iraqi currency. "
Tebow I'll go with the Iraqi economic expert over Kap anyday!
Indiana holder Tebow think will happen b4 end of year. looks like all have been waiting a long time. A friend that talked me into it says VERY SOON
Tebow indiana holder no one knows but we wait
Xyz As prophesied.... 10-1-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni I want to point out to critical events between now and the end of the year. One is the vote through Parliament on Special Grades, the other being the 2020 budget which the supposed to include the launching of the market economy.
Iraq is at a critical stage right now not only with an abundance of laws that still need to be passed, but they are in dire need to lure private investors in to rebuild. [post 2 of 2]
Wilder Wished Okie was still around. He would know. Or Rangerr77. Shotgun Suzy. The General.
Wilder Okie has been trashed so many times for calling thefalse RV's that he feels so bad about doing that. I got info from another member on another board, stating that if the RV were to come out lower than 4.40 as he has predicted for many months now, that he would make up the difference if it came out under 4.40...... sounds like a win win situation.... no need to worry about an 86 cent rv...... Okie has us all covered...... go RV wahoo...... can I get a Nuff Said, Done Deal Cash in covered by OKie....
Any other confirmation on this? September 8, 2011
WPY The most unfathomable concept in Dinarland : WHY do we not have a RELIABLE source of information ?
WPY With all the ALLEGED good guys SUPPOSEDLY working for us, yet no site, blog or news source has any reliable, verifiable information on the biggest financial change the planet has likely ever seen. What's up with that ?
Kaperoni Since Tebow likes economist Peace Sumaisem so much here is a much better article from her on the Iraqi economist website. lol
Kaperoni LINK
Kaperoni The important part....
Kaperoni The financial market is a necessary condition for completing the conditions of the market economy.
The stock market “according to the laws of the market economy” needs a set of measures in order to do its part, including:
1_ moving interest rates in banks according to the volume of trading of shares and other securities in the market,
(Ii) the freedom to enter and remove foreign currency;
3_ float the national currency exchange rate,
4_ and the freedom of foreign capital to invest in this market
Kaperoni I am putting about 20 articles together from Iraq experts and will email to Zig. He then can email any of you who still think your going to get rich overnight.
Kaperoni later.
IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Afternoon 10-1-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Afternoon 10-1-19
Dave Clay read the news today about the protests......?
Clay no not really been on not in the best of moods today
Clay protests about what
Clay services?
Dave Corruption laws unemployment
Clay still huh?
Wilder Dave Iraq?
Clay how about here in Congress
Clay Bidens
Clay no forgot they r not corrupt they are innocent collecting billions
Clay omg
IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Afternoon 10-1-19
Dave Clay read the news today about the protests......?
Clay no not really been on not in the best of moods today
Clay protests about what
Clay services?
Dave Corruption laws unemployment
Clay still huh?
Wilder Dave Iraq?
Clay how about here in Congress
Clay Bidens
Clay no forgot they r not corrupt they are innocent collecting billions
Clay omg
Dave Wilder (Baghdad: Euphrates News) The government media cell announced a joint statement of the ministries of interior and health on the demonstrations today.
The statement received the agency (Euphrates News) a copy of it “witnessed the capital Baghdad and a number of provinces launch protests demanding the provision of public services and employment opportunities.”
The cell “regretted the violence accompanied by these protests, issued by a group of rioters to overthrow the real content of these demands and stripped of the peacefulness of which they came out, and that while we stand in solidarity with the freedom of expression guaranteed by the Constitution,
and based on the principle of national responsibility, we call All citizens to calm and restraint, and stress the continuation of the security services in the performance of their duties in order to ensure the security and safety of the demonstrators.
The Ministry of Health, according to the statement, “on the continuation of its medical staff to provide treatment to the wounded who were received by health institutions, where recorded one death,
while the number of wounded 200 wounded, including 40 injured members of the security services, a number of them came out after receiving first aid, with continued Medical staff in providing health care for the remaining 50 ”
https://alforatnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=213981
Clay dont blame the protestors
Wilder Soros behind it?
Wilder Or whatever his name is
Dave Al-Madar got the demands of a demonstration tomorrow (Tuesday, October 1, 2019) that will be launched in Bashtak.
The demands are:
1- Declaring a real war on corruption and opening all files of corruption with the help of international bodies specialized in corruption cases
And legislation the law from where you get this.
2. Preventing the interference of political parties and blocs in government work, separating political entitlement from government positions and establishing the Federal Service Council.
3 – Formation of the Construction Council, which consists of specialists to be responsible for all projects and future plans of the country.
4. Really support the private sector, protect the domestic product to eliminate unemployment, move the local economy, maintain foreign currency within the country and open the door for real domestic and foreign investments.
5 – Cancellation of the currency auction and the adoption of free market policy.
6. To confine arms to the State in a genuine manner and to abolish all armed manifestations and the militarization of society.
7- Restructuring all government sectors, especially the service ones, to be real productive sectors.
8 – Restructuring and organization of the institution of education and fast and urgent in order to produce a successful educational sector according to international standards.
9. Amending the Electoral Law to be a fair law and preserving the rights of all.
10. Repeal and amend all laws and legislations that contravene the Constitution and immediately apply the disabled paragraphs of the Constitution and abolish all special privilege laws.
■ Give an opportunity not more than 15 days to start the implementation of the above or else the ceiling of our demands next time will be higher and bigger
Clay hes behind everything unfortunately
Doug_W what a mess over there
Clay yep
Dave nodda happening yet......?
Dave in this session....hmmmmm?
Doug_W they are passing laws that contradict other lawsw like that hydrocarbon law
Doug_W what amess
Tebow Dave like 5 – Cancellation of the currency auction and the adoption of free market policy.
Clay canceling the auctions would be good
Clay always heard that whether true or not
Clay Tebow I agree
Tebow yes free market, they would have to do something
Clay need diar b4 this could happen
Dave as banking is no where in Iraq ...CBI needs to make money somehow?
Dave any of you folks familiar with fractional indexing used by banks?
Crazycrypto seems Mahdi's back is against the wall
Dave Crazycrypto thats why they chose an independent
Crazycrypto hoping that no one gets killed wit the massive protests going on seems the people ave finally had enough
Crazycrypto what do you mean dave?
Dave protests for the same things for yrs now.......
Crazycrypto i agree Dave but at some point something has gotta give
Dave Madhi has no strong party affiliation
Crazycrypto hes an agent of Iran
Crazycrypto seems that way anyhow
Clay they all r
Crazy cryptotrue clay
Clay Started with Maliki
Dave thought just really depose able
Crazycrypto sadly Iraqis seem they cant escape them
Clay shocked we havent heard from sistani or whats his name
Clay sadr
Clay in a very long time
Crazycrypto isnt Sadr in charge of these protest?
Dave in the news today
Clay probably
Clay but hasnt said much
futuremoney sadr sucks
Crazycrypto i cant believe we are in the 4th quarter of 2019
Clay he used to have a voice
Crazycrypto seems unreal
Clay yep
Crazycrypto this year went by fast
Clay another year
Crazycrypto yep
Wilder Dave couldn't find indexing. Fractional banking. Fractional reserve banking is a banking system in which banks only hold a fraction of the money their customers' deposit as reserves. This allows them to use the rest of it to make loans and thereby essentially create new money. This gives commercial banks the power to directly affect the money supply
Dave and leverage each loan up to 1000times
Wilder And not including collateral.
Dave Cbi makes 9 % on each loan a bank writes
Tebow wish I could make 9%
Dave just over 20% of the pop use banks currently......
Tebow we go to negative rates in the states, that will be here
Dave Wilder suspect SandyF will give us an education on this
Wilder U read my mind
Wilder They need to do just like our country here. Just keep the printing presses running. Raise the rate backed with nothing.
IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 10-1-19
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sandyf @Sparky sandyf silk road is not a fallacy...it's going on...today...Wake up...
Wake up to what!!!, something that is taking place literally on my doorstep. The new routes from the Rayong industrial area to Myanmar and China are part of the silk road initiative and pass about 200 metres from my house.
sandyf @xyz Kaperoni you don't even know what percentage is in the cbi, banks, under the mattress, etc and yet you claim that you are the smartest guru saint
It is totally irrelevant how much currency is held where, the only significant figure is the liability on the CBI that appears in their accounts. At the end of August that figure stood at over 48 trillion dinar and the IMF projection takes that figure to nearly 60 trillion over the next 5 years.
If you cannot understand that point then there is no credibility in what you say, trying to say the CBI and IMF are falsifying the accounts just does not hold water.
IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 10-1-19
sandyf @Sparky sandyf silk road is not a fallacy...it's going on...today...Wake up...
Wake up to what!!!, something that is taking place literally on my doorstep. The new routes from the Rayong industrial area to Myanmar and China are part of the silk road initiative and pass about 200 metres from my house.
sandyf @xyz Kaperoni you don't even know what percentage is in the cbi, banks, under the mattress, etc and yet you claim that you are the smartest guru saint
It is totally irrelevant how much currency is held where, the only significant figure is the liability on the CBI that appears in their accounts. At the end of August that figure stood at over 48 trillion dinar and the IMF projection takes that figure to nearly 60 trillion over the next 5 years.
If you cannot understand that point then there is no credibility in what you say, trying to say the CBI and IMF are falsifying the accounts just does not hold water.
TWWIII In light of the strategy of the Central Bank of Iraq to achieve financial inclusion, and improve digital banking services, and modern technologies, to ensure easy access to those services provided to different segments of society,
this bank directed all banks licensed to provide mobile phone application service (Mobile Banking) , ensuring the facilitation of banking service for beneficiaries
And ensure the availability of protection and confidentiality systems for them, to be implemented within a specified period of time from the date of issuance of instructions from this bank.
Central Bank of Iraq information Office 30 September 2019 https://cbi.iq/news/view/1301
foxmulder TWWIII that's interesting
foxmulder Slight progress
foxmulder Just need a rate change go with it
chattels In first, Iraq PM points finger at Israel on base attacks https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/300920191
chattels Al-Wala'i: Abdul-Mahdi's announcement that Israel was behind the bombing of the Hashd headquarters, a green light to take revenge
Tuesday 01 October 00:27 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=790344
chattels Khazali comments on Abdul Mahdi's declaration of Israel's responsibility to target the Popular Mobilization
Monday , 30 September 23:30 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=790340
chattels Iraqi PM Abdel-Mahdi says Israel is responsible for some attacks on PMF (Hashd) ammunition storage facilities in Iraq. Asa’ib Ahl al-Haqq militia says government must reserve the right to respond to this aggression. http://mobp.as/puTSp
chattels Israeli Armed Forces decline to comment on Iraqi PM’s statement that Israel has attacked PMF (Hashd) positions in Iraq. More than 5 attacks have occurred in past months. http://mobp.as/YyTSp
chattels Kurdistan and the International Coalition: ISIS threatens some areas of Iraq LINK
chattels US pushes Iraq to integrate Iran-backed PMU militias after strikes
Jack Detsch September 30, 2019
chattels The PMU consists of as many as 40 groups under Iraqi and Iranian authority, the Pentagon says, possibly totaling some 160,000 fighters. Iraq’s government issued an executive order in July to bring Iranian-backed factions of the PMU under Baghdad’s control, and the United States plans to assist with identifying elements that will be demobilized.
Mulroy, who is set to leave the Trump administration next month, called Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi’s order to reign in the group “an important step towards ensuring Iraq's future as a strong, sovereign, unified, democratic, and prosperous state.”
The Pentagon’s top Middle East policy official cautioned, however, “Implementation of the decree will be key, and we will continue to engage with the Government of Iraq on the need to enforce this Executive Order.”
chattels The difference between ideation and implementation or rhetoric and reality in Iraq. It is a chasm.
chattels And that's the way that it is from the news that I read out of Iraq on this 1st day of October, 2019.
Xyz Tebow 10-1-2019 Intel Guru Frank26 ...we're putting everyone on red alert...the lower denoms have been given the approval to be distributed among all the Iraq banks - to the citizens once the rate changes...
chattels ‘We demand rights’: hundreds protest in Baghdad’s Tahrir Square https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/01102019
chattels ERBIL, Kurdistan Region – Hundreds of Iraqis protested in Baghdad’s Tahrir Square on Tuesday to express diverse, long-brewing grievances, including, a lack of basic services, rampant corruption, and unequal treatment within the Iraqi Army.
chattels Last year’s protests dashed the hopes of previous Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi of gaining a second term in office. Current Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi was elected as an independent candidate and does not belong to a particular parliament bloc, making him vulnerable to pressure both public and parliamentary.
Chattels BAGHDAD / NINA / The Central Bank of Iraq sold more than / 205 / million dollars at an auction selling foreign currency today.
The bank said in a statement: "The total amount sold today, amounted to 205 million and 508 thousand and 950 dollars, with the participation of 30 banks and one company."
https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=790435
chattels Parliamentarians: The response to the Israeli aggression will be through a complaint to the United Nations
Tuesday 01 October 13:04 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=790428