IQD CALLS Chat Thursday Evening 10-3-19

 IQD CALLS Chat Thursday Evening 10-3-19

Young_SC   10-3-2019 Newshound Guru Jeff ...Historically they [Iraq] had a 3+ value...notice how they keep telling you they're trying to come out with lower denoms and then back in August and September they put out all those articles telling you coins...

so yes they will be coming out with coins and lower denoms at an increased rate...clear back into the early 1970's they had a 3+ value...the article from yesterday said $3.37 as of 1973.

That's before I was even born. I was born in '75. That tells me Iraq is the wealthiest country in the world. So when you come out and tell me, 'Oh yeah we think the rates gonna go to 1+', I laugh in your face because Iraq is the wealthiest country in the world and back in '73 they were holding a rate of $3.37. That's huge...

Zig   I have invited Jeff to return.....now that SKELFLA isn't here to harass him.....lol......also have invited Tony Breitling to return as he was here once.......

Xyz   Zig 10-3-2019 Intel Guru FRANK26 IF YOU THINK THINGS ARE NOT LOOKING GOOD DUE TO THE DEMONSTRATIONS, DON'T... I AM VERY EXCITED BECAUSE OF WHAT TEAMS ARE TELLING ME!!!

Kaperoni   I'll say it again, I visit several sites, several chat rooms, I own no websites. I have nothing to do with any website other than posting or visiting. If you have problems with a site that I visit take it up with the site not me.

Kaperoni   Some people deserve to be insulted. In my opinion those that use this chat room to learn and educate themselves have constructive conversations and it benefits everyone

xyz   Kaperoni who is the GURU? 10-2-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni Iraq's Parliament announced today the 2020 budget will be submitted around middle of October for review/voting.

Kaperoni   You would probably be surprised how many people would come forward in this chat room that are not registered to have a legitimate conversation if they didn't feel that they would be harassed

Kaperoni   And after all that's what this is all about to help as many people as possible

Kaperoni   Zig oh, you got my message I'm assuming?

Zig   Kaperoni : Do you have a problem with people who disagree with you in a respectful manner??

Dave   never answer my questions........for 10 yrs

Kaperoni   Nooo

Kaperoni   Dave there is no answering your question because you don't like the answers

Kaperoni   The first misnomer I bought the dinar is that everyone says it's worthless. It's not worthless it has value it's used everyday in Iraq. Just like other countries that have currencies with zeros they use them everyday to conduct commerce

Zig   Like Vietnam.....

Kaperoni   Stupid voice translation screwed up the first sentence whatever that was supposed to mean LOL

Dave  with wheel barrows

Kaperoni   Zig exactly..or Iran

Dave   Zig every one else gets it except for kap

xyz   Zig as he can preach with impunity

Kaperoni   The other misnomer is that people think everyone would buy up Iraq if they flooded the currency. That's total nonsense the Central Bank of Iraq controls the money supply just like every other Central Bank controls their money supply. And central banks all around the world float their currencies

Kaperoni   Floated..not flooded

Zig   xyz : Well everyone can say what they wish in here.....Kap is no different.....Sparky also preaches.....lol

Dave   yes for the 10000000 time ...thats what Russia did

Zig   No rule about going on a long rant in here.....

xyz   Zig but Kaperoni get away with name calling and severe insults. He feels like he is a lord

Kaperoni    The IMF wants central banks to float their currency. The the Middle East for example has three or four countries in the last three years that have floated their currencies

Kaperoni   But I don't care if no one listens to me. There's only one point that ever needs to be made and that one point is the Central Bank of Iraq has said itself that there is an excess of 40 trillion dinar outside the banking system. That means they have no control over it but yet they're liable for it.

And there's no way they could ever RV the currency with that much dinar outside the banking system that alone should tell anyone or everyone that the idea of an RV is a myth

Dave   Kaperoni funny you said 20t the other day

Dave   which is it

Kaperoni   No I said it could be any amount from 2 trillion to 60 trillion it doesn't matter it's too much I was just using it as an example. But the article I posted in here about a week ago clearly stated the amount was 45 trillion I believe

Doug_W   Dave Always

Dave   you said at least 20t ...verbatim

Kaperoni   David doesn't matter it's too much you cannot RV that much currency

Kaperoni   XYZ you're talking about two different things and RV is an RV going to a float it's a different exchange rate regime

Dave   funny i read 45 t printed yrs back

Kaperoni   Dave and it's probably gone up substantially because they cannot reduce the dinar in circulation as long as the dollar is prevalent. The currency auctions are a balance between dinar and dollar in order to maintain stability. And as everyone knows the CBI has maintained stability for the last 16 months within 2% / IMF requirements so we know there's a balance that is how the auctions work

Dave   Kaperoni yes...cbi takes in 4t a month at auctions.......you state cbi pays govt employees in cash from that

Kaperoni   A change from a peg to a float is a different exchange rate regime and the purpose of it is a monetary tool. That tool is used to combat inflationary pressure created in this case by an influx of substantial Capital through the financial system.

Anyone will tell you that if you put a ton of money into a financial system you have to have tools in place to combat that pressure that is created otherwise you'll lose control over the financial system.

Therefore if they're going to have a market economy and have billions of dollars come in to rebuild which I think we all can agree is what they're trying to do we know they're going to float because that is a must

Kaperoni   Dave they also pay out salaries in dinar so to think that they're taking in dinar off of the auctions you're fooling yourself

Dave   those Q cards for NOT....LOL

Kaperoni   By zig

Kaperoni   The problem with a good percentage of you in this chat room is you don't understand how central banks work, their tools and the necessary requirements of a central bank over the financial system it is their number one job to maintain stability. That is why you'll never see an RV because that would absolutely throw the entire system into chaos I assure you. It's all Guru nonsense

Young_SC   Kaperoni why are you so presistent to get your point across to a bunch of people who disagree with your opinions?  Lol   I dont understand

Kaperoni   But you guys Keep On Believing because you like the guru nonsense I guess. Young the answer is very simple I've been in this 10 years and I have seen hundreds of people getting hurt losing everything being led down the wrong path. And I have a skill at researching and if I can help a little bit to educate those I do so. People that have known me know that's what I'm about

Young_SC   You have some will and some wont but i find that you are very presistent for unknown reasons

Dave    Kaperoni    funny your the only guru i try to follow

Young_SC   If i were to tell someone my opinion and they disagree i would leave it alone and not bother but with you i find that you just keep digging digging digging

Kaperoni   I don't care if people follow me or listen to me I just find facts and I present those facts and you can do what you want with them or you can listen to the moron gurus

Young_SC   Kaperoni why are your intentions?

xyz   Young_SC clergy forces everyone to be converted. I conversion to a float = a possible $7.95 subscription. Its business sales pitch call FLOAT there

Young_SC   What*

Kaperoni   Young_SC I already stated my intentions to help people understand nothing more

Kaperoni   Everyone is entitled to their opinion but there are facts and there are made up stories and I'm just giving you the facts there's too much money in circulation to ever significantly RV

Young_SC   No disrespect but i just find it odd

Young_SC   Kaperoni i brought 3 articles into this room on numerous occassions from the CBI and Finance minister stating the opposite of your opinion but yet you avoided the articles

Young_SC   Kaperoni howcome?

Kaperoni   Young_SC there were a lot of people when I started back 10 years ago that did the same thing including Bond lady, the guy that started Dinar Detectives, Etc they've all passed on so the amount of people still providing facts to the dinar community has dwindled. But if someone doesn't do it the guru's win and they continue to propagate the lies everyday of some overnight riches to scam people

Dave   Kaperoni Total disregard for CBI

Young_SC   Kaperoni You still havent addressed the articles i posted

Kaperoni   Young_SC I doubt that you brought three articles in but you probably just misinterpreted them because anything that's come out in the last several months or years that talks about Parliament and coins is a Lop

Young_SC   KAP ITS IN PRINT FROM THE CBI BUT YET YOU SAY IT IS INCORRECT

Kaperoni   Young_SC once again you have to understand if Parliament is involved in monetary policy there's only one reason for it. And that is substantiated by any other country who has Parliament get involved in their currency they want to change the physical value of it and that requires a law. If the CBI was going to RV they have full control to do so they don't need Parliament

Dave   translation error with the word NO???????

Young_SC   Kap i will post it again

Young_SC   In addition to the results achieved on the scope of monetary policy applications internally and convince global financial organizations, the most important official reports issued by them confirmed the success of the policy of the Central Bank to achieve an important transition to the Iraqi economy and achieve stability in the exchange rate and the recovery of the Iraqi dinar and raise its purchasing power, one of the objectives of strengthening the economy.

Dave   Young_SC and again and again and again and again and again

Young_SC  http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17644

Young_SC   https://www.mawazin.net/Details.aspx?Jimare=61023

Young_SC   Kap for you  Read them man

Kaperoni   That is too general of a statement. If they lop and then raise the value from their clearly they're increasing the purchasing power and that is the intent of Parliament.

Young_SC    From the direct source  No economist

Young_SC   FROM THE CBI AND FINANCE MINSTER

Kaperoni   People need to realize that if Parliament has their way and they Lop and then they raise the currency afterwards that is an increase in purchasing power.

Then some will say what why would they lie because they needed to reduce the money supply so that is the reason why Parliament wants to be involved they want to reduce trillions to billions and then raise the value after that which again you will never make much money if such an event occurs

Young_SC   Kaperoni Why do you keep saying LOP  Where is the LOP word in those articles    Show me

Kaperoni   So we don't want Parliament involved. We want them to do what I have been saying for years now and that is to float the currency from where it is right now and there are several articles that I have given two zig who gave to the moderator who posted on this website the call for a direct float.

That makes the most sense especially when they're working feverishly to bring in billions of dollars to rebuild their economy via a private sector. Because they will need a tool to counter the pressure that is Created from the influx of capital

Tebow   no influx of investment at the current rate with a float

Young_SC   I DONT UNDERSTAND WHERE ARE YOU SEEING LOP

Young_SC   KAP DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT A LOP IS

Young_SC   DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HORRIBLE A LOP IS FOR THE CITIZENS

Kaperoni   Tebow you have no idea what you're talking about Investors aren't coming to a country because of the exchange rate of the dinar they're coming to the country to rebuild and make money by creating a private sector. It has nothing to do with the exchange rate

Kaperoni   And as the GDP of the country grows so will the currency Young_SC

Kaperoni   Young_SC young I don't have to show you anything but if Parliament is involved they want to pass a law that is all you need to know because there would be no need for them otherwise use your head

Dave   Young_SC out of luck their

Young_SC   Kaperoni you say random things and you dont want to show us or prove it

Kaperoni   There cannot be any significant RV of the Iraqi dinar. That's all anyone needs to know there's too much currency in circulation I don't care about anything else that in itself is enough once you understand that then you have to look for alternatives

Kaperoni   Young_SC I have shown and proved it over and over and over again you just refuse to look

Kaperoni   But I got to go I got things to do so bash away enjoy your day

xyzIraqi parliament announces its intention to discuss the legitimate demands of the demonstrators

https://www.sana.sy/?p=1028429

Baghdad and a number of Iraqi provinces today witnessed the emergence of sporadic demonstrations demanding better services and job opportunities, while a parliamentary source confirmed that the Iraqi parliament will discuss the demands of the demonstrators at its next meeting on Saturday.

The Iraqi News Agency conscious of the Iraqi Joint Operations Department as saying that the security situation under full control despite the presence of some gatherings of demonstrators.

The agency said that the curfew came into force in Baghdad and several provinces to block the way for engineers who want to distort peaceful demonstrations, noting that the imposition of curfew also entered into force in the provinces of Babylon and Diwaniya.

For his part, a parliamentary source said that the Iraqi Council of Representatives will discuss at its meeting next Saturday demonstrations witnessed in Baghdad and several provinces and said that the meeting will also discuss the demands of the demonstrators and ways to meet the legitimate ones.

Meanwhile, an informed source said that representatives of the demonstrators expressed their readiness to meet the invitation of Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi to discuss the legitimate demands.

"The prime minister's office has received many contacts in this regard and things augur well," the source said, adding that the contacts came after the prime minister's office allocated the numbers to be contacted by the protesters' representatives.

The Information Office of the Iraqi Prime Minister announced the continuation of continuous contacts with representatives of peaceful demonstrators to consider legitimate requests.

Earlier in the day, the Iraqi government announced a curfew in Baghdad from 5 a.m. until further notice on the back of the violence that accompanied the demonstrations in the capital and some ot

xyz   Abdul Mahdi's speech addresses the Iraqi people http://www.steppress.net/?p=23902

xyz   33 dead after Iraqi protesters defy curfew in 3rd day of unrest https://globalnews.ca/news/5987228/irqa-anti-government-protests-deaths/

xyz   Iraq's PM calls for talks as thousands of protesters defy curfew https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/iraq-pm-calls-talks-thousands-protesters-defy-curfew-191003161024820.html

Xyz   10-3-2019 Intel Guru Frank26 I think Alaq is going to say a lot tomorrow...They moved 12 trucks, gigantic armored trucks out of the green zone. They were escorted by Blackwater and whoever else...

they escorted these 12 armored trucks and Alaq went on television and he told the citizens, 'we are moving these 12 armored vehicles to undisclosed destination.' He told the people the trucks were loaded with funds.

There's no doubt these are the lower denoms because the day before he told them, 'I'm going to give you the lower denoms.' And now he's telling them, 'look I'm moving them.'

But he's not telling them what funds they are...it's possible they are either going to show them tomorrow the pictures of the lower denoms or Saturday...I really think this week they are going to show it to them...

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IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 10-3-19 Part 2 of 2

 IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 10-3-19 Part 2 of 2

madness   well my theory has been if I was a country leader, happy new year and come out with a bang, but now you have riots 7 dead over 400 wounded not looking good for us

Young_SC   Every day its the same people complaining about this or about that well then to solve the problem

Young_SC   Cash Out

madness   lol cash out where?

Young_SC   Young_SC go cash out your dinar at the bank to get your money bank

Young_SC   Or exchange currency

madness   you must mis interpret what im saying, the dinar is going, I just think this could be a major set back for all us holders GET IT

Young_SC   Did people ever think that at its most horrible moment that finally the citizens will get what they want from the GOI based on the list of demands

Young_SC   madness major set back in what way?

Young_SC   madness if you read the news then you will know why they are protesting

madness   that is a good assumption and I hope your are right

Young_SC   You do know why they are protesting right?

madness    they may have to finally move quick to RI, so im hoping for the best on that

madness   yes they are pissed off of the corruption

Young_SC   madness exactly

madness   cant blame them

Young_SC   Bingo

Young_SC   You should inform Chattels too

Young_SC   On why they are protesting

madness   but giving people purchasing power when they have no job to even make money is really stupid, you have to make money to spend it

madness   I would be pissed too

madness   guess its better to be pissed off than pissed on

Young_SC   madness unemployment is one of the reasons for the protesting aswell

madness   yes exactly they have 7 demands, they also want the currency auctions to stop, they have promised those poor people so much and have not delivered squat

Young_SC   madness and that is why tbey are protesting

Young_SC   So are you sure it will be a smart thing for the GOI to tell the citizens they have to wait 3 to 6 more months for their demands?

madness   well it could go both ways for us holders, fingers crossed the GOI grows a half a brain and does the right thing, but this is iraq were talking about

Young_SC    GOI will get replaced if demands are not delivered aswell

madness   no I agree with you, there about to have a dam major war on there hands, they better step up to the plate and do the right thing

Young_SC   madness bingo

madness     im worried we the US might have to step in as well

Young_SC   madness US is already there

Young_SC   Always have been

madness   they were doing so good too I was getting a little proud of them, then nope lets be idiots and not follow through on anything that would help the people

madness   I know

madness    well one thing is for sure there is no turning back, there at a break point now

madness   its called fight phuuck or hit the fence, wonder what there going to do

Young_SC   This protest came for a reason

Young_SC   And now the citizens will be taken seriously

madness   yeah all the politicians are stealing the entires countrys wealth

madness   guess I cant throw stones I dont like politics but we have a gaggle of idiots here in the US too

Young_SC   Like i said, the whole reason for this investment is directly for the citizens of Iraq to receive their purchasing power it is not directly for us. We just benefit because we bought the dinar at a low rate and will prosper when they change their rate. That is all

Young_SC   People like Kap forget

Young_SC   And most do

madness    kap is hell bent on convincing every person this will never happen

Young_SC   We here in North America are the ants

Young_SC   When it comes to this matter with Iraq

madness   but with that said one must ask, if your so hell bent on that idea, what the hell are you doing with all your time this far out

Young_SC   madness what do you mean

madness    I call them trolls, if you think its never going to happen, then fine thanks for the advice and move on, why spend so much time saying the same krap on dinar sites, let us wallow in our sorrow if it does not happen, my research tells me different

Young_SC    madness i thought the samething to

Young_SC   That is a key question

madness   yeah you must have one damm lonley life to spend this much time convincing people this is never going down, hell if he spent half the time doing this bs and maybe go find a nice lady he might get ahead in life, there is always an angle,

madness   not you young I meant krappy

Young_SC   madness lolol

Young_SC   And Kap is soo presistent about it too

Young_SC   Which to me is a mystery

madness    matter of fact if I wanted any krap from him I would squeeze his head, my buddy who brought me into this thinks he is a troll plant, there to try to get people to unload there dinar, taking a step back kind of seems that way

madness   no he has an agenda where not that stupid, he may think we are,

Young_SC   I find that there is a lot of confusion being placed out there to confuse people and misdirect them

Young_SC   Kap created the narrative of Iraq falling into a LOP to bring it to 1 to 1 and then float

madness   yep, sure is and what a waste of space, Hey jerk off were not selling our dinar, even it never goes, it was still a fun ride

Young_SC   What in the world does that mean      LOL  that   is insane

Young_SC   What kind of nonsense is he saying

Young_SC   LOP is decreasing the value your money

madness   well he does say the opposite of what the cbi says, so thats a clue right there

Young_SC   The dinar is worth nothing now

madness   lol yeah how take you take nothing from nothing

madness   in the words of raw eddie murphy nothing form nothing leaves nothing lol

Young_SC   Lolol

madness   now rumor is companies are trying to buy back your dinar go figure

biff   Happy Independence Day Iraq!!!

madness   even if he was right about some of the stuff he says, just boggles the mind how a person spends or expends so much darn energy on something he believes nothing about. ????

madness   what a trip, some people have too much time on there hands

Andrewetoldthem   1st of dinar investor i like to say thank you for being honest about saying the nasdaq contract with iraq begun on 10/1 but now my question is do you think before you speak or you just blurr out your answers like a kid thats in 3rd grade

 how could nasdaq only promote software for another country when nasdaq is a * software it self now 3rd i taught you say the 2020 budget was post rate change now you saying they not ready to change the rate

now i want to be clear on something iraq only have 4 phase not more then 4 in phase 4 its to go internationally they are international just not fully international yet they will be when they revalued their country and money thats why you hear them talk about mobile banking etc

thats international phase and they became international 10/1 when their 5 year contract with nasdaq begun now i know i never say that would of change the rate i just say it begin then and has a business person would you want to promote me for free when your company its 1 of the biggest company in new york?

 now not for not least in the demonstration why you think the protester speak about abdul mahdi ? the rate will change and they will go fully international when abdul mahdi government its complete thats why all the protesters speak of him letting the government know they better get the education ministry voted and sworn in or they got another thing coming

 but me i think everytime they revealed the date when the education ministry will be voted in and sworn in that means its already done and that should be done on 10/5 and that happens then we get or revaluation and they will be fully international 2 on 10/24 them joinning the WTO BEgins now ask yourself that question can they join the WTO with a worthless money ?

madness     bro that was a long post, and NO you cant join the wto with a worthless currency, matter of fact it would be an insult, but with the riots going on well have to see how this plays out

Andrewetoldthem   madness lol but thank you buddy i was just tired of dinar investor keep insulting frank26 vital brad and his video not only he expose his self but he say the dummie reasons to justify it like a dems but since sept 21 his been piss off because he taught his calculation thats when the education ministry would of been sworn in aNd the fact when abdul mahdi and the parliament reveal everything after i told him and here that would of happen after the UN GA his been mad at the world then but anyways this say it all for him

Andrewetoldthem   that video of iraq tells you they was going to be able to have the isx live on nasdaq that day it became live it didnt say nothing about nasdaq promoting a damn software for them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnRRruPe_EE

Andrewetoldthem   and this their government youtube videos that show you everything getting done in iraq

Andrewetoldthem   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4NdpAYltpp4mq-e4I9HIHg

Andrewetoldthem   this tell you their accession of WTO and then im going to post another link that tell you how a country joins the WTO

https://unctad.org/en/pages/PublicationWebflyer.aspx?publicationid=2384

Andrewetoldthem   https://www.thebalance.com/how-does-a-country-become-a-wto-member-3306362

Andrewetoldthem   it was all pressure to push them to get things done because they speak of peace and doing right by their citizens that push them to get it done then

Three Presidencies in Iraq: Launching a Comprehensive National Dialogue

Last Updated: Thursday 03 October 2019 KSA 05:40 – GMT 02:40

Published Date: Wednesday 02 October 2019 KSA 20:35 – GMT 17:35

Source: Dubai-Arabic

Mohammed Halbousi and Barham Saleh and Adel Abdul Mahdi

The three presidencies in Iraq (the state, parliament and government) announced the formation of an official committee to deal with the demands of the demonstrators, launch a comprehensive national dialogue, as well as initiate the implementation of the Social Security Law.

AndrewetoldthemAbdul Mahdi receives the names of education candidates and revealed the date of arrival to Parliament

(Baghdad: Euphrates News) Revealed a member of the Education Committee of the House of Representatives Huda Jarallah, the handover of the names of candidates for the post of Minister of Education to Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi.

The MP

Jarallah said in a press statement, “The Parliamentary Education Committee sent the names of candidates for the post of the Federal Ministry of Education to the Presidency of the Council of Ministers, likely to have other names.”

madness   well I thought while the GOI is well for a lack of better words incompetent, its the cbi that has to pull the trigger and I think the US treasury has a say too, so many players in the game makes it so convoluted

Andrewetoldthem   madness THE CBI was clear on it when they say they have to form a fully gov before they able to do anything thats why the protestors had demand on it and the 2 most important 1s was to fully form their gov then revalued their country and money

Andrewetoldthem   Halbousi invites coordinators of demonstrations to attend the session on Saturday

Halbousi invites coordinators of demonstrations to attend the session on Saturday

Andrewetoldthem   Iraqi Prime Minister announces curfew in Baghdad until further notice

Andrewetoldthem   we get the education ministry voted and sworn in then we get the revalued because theirs only 4 phase thats 1 and 2 to stop the madness and 3 then they will be fully stable

Andrewetoldthem   even if sparky narcisse disagree and wont to see us fail even him he know better that nasdaq doesnt promote no damn software when they already a *software itself

Andrewetoldthem   well i post all the truth now its time to see iraq keep their truth and promise protest finish at 2pm today thats almost morning over there when we a sleep they awake

madness   well lets hope for the best, off to work be safe

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IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 10-3-19 Part 1 of 2

 IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 10-3-19 Part 1 of 2

Portmagaland   Deano The majority in here think it's going to RV that's why we all got into this game, so there's the answer to your poll

Deano   @Portmagaland I certainly agree

Portmagaland   Deano TWWIII said he negotiated a 1% fee with his bank when this pops and made and then made it sound like his bank knows about the RV. This is something the TNT crew talks about, their bank stories, so I was wondering about TWIII, is a TNT crew member?

Tebow   xyz they can't reduce the money supply. Iraqis like us are not going to turn in their large notes.

Deano   How much is in circulation 34 trillion ???

Tebow   Deano no one knows

Dave   wish we chatted more about the relevant events going dpwn in Iraq rather this Kap/guru bashing

Dave   posted o few cool articles .......no response

Dave   Demonstrations ,shutting down green zone, 15 days for arrest warrants to be issued to prominent corrupt officials......

Tebow   Dave anything they do to get action in Iraq is good, they're doing something

Dave   used to chat about what is actually happening

sandyf   @Zig Dave : 20 trillion.....40 trillion.....what's a few trillion among friends??......lol..... :na;

It not so much about the actual amount. The CBI has an IQD denominated liability in respect of the currency that has been issued. This liability is underpinned by assets but the bulk of the assets are foreign currency denominated.

If the IQD were to rise in value the liability would increase but the asset value would remain the same. There is only about 8% equity in the CBI accounts so it would not take much of a rise in the value of the IQD for the CBI to be bankrupt.

Xbruster69   Eddie Cross reveals when NEW Zimbabwe currency will be released, heaps praises on Mnangagwa..

Xbruster69   https://www.myzimbabwe.co.zw/news/53387-eddie-cross-reveals-when-new-zimbabwe-currency-will-be-released-heaps-praises-on-mnangagwa.html?fbclid=IwAR26ThgYV-tTXOD9iyX5jWC7cgTLNKbP42m-ZNY7yYPyglqAKAPl-wOBG5U

 Madness   wow things are heating up

larrykn   Iraqi protests turn deadly as security forces open fire on demonstrators https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44104/Iraqi-protests-turn-deadly-as-security-forces-open-fire-on-demonstrators

larrykn   Heavy security in Baghdad day after 2 protesters killed https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44107/Heavy-security-in-Baghdad-day-after-2-protesters-killed

larrykn   UN expresses concern over violence in Iraq protests https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44110/UN-expresses-concern-over-violence-in-Iraq-protests

mo fo   hope the riots help the iqd and the citizens- but like before just talk from gov

larrykn   mo fo does seem that the people are getting tired of not having anything.

3 Oct 19, 06:31 AM larrykn   Social media users: Green Zone will fall by Iraqi youth https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44113/Social-media-users-Green-Zone-will-fall-by-Iraqi-youth

larrykn  Fire breaks out inside Engineers Syndicate in Dhi Qar https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44116/Fire-breaks-out-inside-Engineers-Syndicate-in-Dhi-Qar

larrykn   Defense Ministry orders troops to be on high alert as protests continue https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44124/Defense-Ministry-orders-troops-to-be-on-high-alert-as-protests-continue

larrykn   Gunfights breakout in southern Iraq as protests spread nationwide https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44120/Gunfights-breakout-in-southern-Iraq-as-protests-spread-nationwide

mo fo   GO Iraqies

larrykn   Hundreds demonstrate in airport road, 15 persons injured in Baghdad https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44121/Hundreds-demonstrate-in-airport-road-15-persons-injured-in-Baghdad

larrykn   Iraq Gov’t Cuts off Internet Nationwide amid Fears of mass Massacre https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44127/Iraq-Gov-t-Cuts-off-Internet-Nationwide-amid-Fears-of-mass-Massacre

mo fo   Sadre is behind all this

larrykn   this should get the attention on the govenment. they better get going or the whole govenment will collapse. This might be the turning point for Iraq.

larrykn   The people will only put up with so much before they react, seem they have hit that point now.

larrykn   mo fo they say the youth, so I'm not sure if this is Sadre or not

Foxmulder   Well same situation as in past yrs . Have an election...then protest . Anddddd repeat yr after yr . Clown show !!

mo fo   foxmulder it is hard being a corrupt gov-

mo fo   stop corruption is one of demands from protests

mo fo   with Maliki running free says something about the gov

madness   Iraq declares curfews as gunfights rage and protests spread nationwide

madness   that does not sound like stability to me

foxmulder   madness not at all

larrykn   madness no but it looks like the govenment will have to get things done and stop putting things off. which is good for us

Doug_W   I totally agree madness

madness   well they have 7 dead and 400 wounded

Madness   either they give the people purchasing power or kick the can down the road

madness   I think baxters dime just got tear gassed which is a bummer

foxmulder   No services, constant electricity... jobs ... it's a mess . Same ole same ole situation

foxmulder   madness LOL

madness   yeah and fox they even cut off the internet great way to make people happy

foxmulder   madness oh I know ! Just great .

Madness   you cut off my internet and I cant play my games, you would have a war on your hands too

madness   iraq better do something quick and real quick this cant keep up, if you were an investor what would you be thinking, ummm think I will take my money somewhere else till you all get your krap together. hence bad news for us

madness   and that poor dime

mikexx   This gives a really good incite. This is the real Iraq https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5d4qodBtNs

mikexx   Guys, watch what i just posted

mikexx   Hi Doug, it's about the protests and corrupt Iraqi government, very interesting

Madness   wow excellent video, geez we are so screwed, still keeping my iqd but damm this is not looking good for us at this point in time, seems to me what good is giving people purchasing power if they dont have a darn job, how can you spend money if you cant make it??

Chattels   There is a lot of foolishness to go around already. The need of some people to call others out as fools seems useless to me.

chattels   Iraqi authorities close Baghdad’s Green Zone since it is a possible target of demonstrators. https://hathalyoum.net/articles/2155306-بغداد-تعيد-إغلاق-المنطقة-الخضراء-حتى-إشعار-آخر-جراء-

chattels   Iraqi MP from Sairoon Coalition: we are with the protesters 100%.

Iraqi Human Rights Commission: protests in 9 provinces. 4 killed, 294 injured, & 120 arrested. https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/middleeast/iraq/0210201917

chattels   Renewed demonstrations in Dhi Qar .. The death toll has risen to 120 dead and wounded

https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/middleeast/iraq/031020197

chattels   Iraq: Death toll rises as protests escalate https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/middleeast/iraq/031020195

Chattels   Abdul Mahdi announces a curfew in Baghdad until further notice https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/middleeast/iraq/03102019

chattels   Things are looking good, eh ?

Doug_W   not really "C"

chattels   The Iraqi Economic Council calls for diversifying the sources of the national economy by revitalizing the tourism sector

https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/business/02102019

chattels   Ah, there is the answer, eh ?

chattels   I am lining up to go over there right now. NOT.

foxmulder   chattels Good Morning.. it's as dysfunctional as it gets !

chattels   Halbousi calls for the presence of representatives of the demonstrators to the parliament building to discuss their demands

https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/middleeast/iraq/0310201912

chattels   The Parliament can make a lot more promises and the protestors will go away. Quite a plan.

Chattels   Iraqi protesters say they will not stop until they arrive at Green Zone in Baghdad and remove corrupt officials. US & Arab nations warn their citizens in Green Zone. LINK

chattels   Maybe they can form another " high level committee ".

chattels   Baghdad / Nina / Foreign currency markets in Baghdad, on Wednesday, a slight rise in the exchange rate of the US dollar against the Iraqi dinar.

 The market price in Baghdad today 1204 dinars per dollar, or 120 thousand and 400 dinars for one hundred dollars after it was yesterday 1203 dinars per dollar.

https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=790692

chattels   For those who have declared that Iraq has done away with the position(s) of vice president, read the following.

chattels   Nouri al-Maliki, a former vice president and prime minister who now serves in parliament, said in a radio interview at the end of August that he wanted to be vice president again and that the delay of President Barham Salih in choosing his deputies is “a clear violation of the constitution.”

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/iraq-parliament-mps-maliki.html#ixzz61IF2znDK

chattels   " ............ others who were elected to parliament, including Maliki, former Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, former Interior Minister Qasim al-Araji, Basra Gov. Basra Assad al-Aydani and acting Kirkuk Gov. Rakan al-Jabouri, continue to refuse to take the oath of office and take up their legislative functions in the legislature. It appears that most if not all of them are seeking through this maneuver to keep their political options open for as long as they can."

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/iraq-parliament-mps-maliki.html#ixzz61IFVc4Ov

Doug_W   Urgent .. US Embassy calls on its employees to leave Iraq immediately

chattels   The Iraqi Constitution and the parliament's protocol have no deadline for the swearing-in of people elected to parliament. In addition, the parliament's presidency committee has blocked Article 18 of the protocol, which calls for the publication of the names of the legislators who have attended parliament and those who have not.

Article 18 reads, "In the event of repeated absence without a legitimate excuse five consecutive or 10 non-consecutive times during the annual session, a written warning shall be sent to the absent member inviting him to commit to attend. In case of noncompliance with the [parliamentary] presidency, the matter shall be submitted to the council [parliament] at the request of the committee.”

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/iraq-parliament-mps-maliki.html#ixzz61IFnFsAV

chattels   “Parliament needs to amend the current laws but there is no real desire in this direction during the new legislative term. There are other laws and interrogations of ministers on the agenda.”

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/iraq-parliament-mps-maliki.html#ixzz61IFvMrs7

chattels   When Abadi was prime minister in 2015, he decided to abolish the posts of vice president and deputy prime minister as part of his “reform package” in response to the demands of popular protests during the previous parliament session. There were three vice presidents and three deputy prime ministers at the time.

 The Supreme Court, however, overturned Abadi’s decision in 2016, deeming it “unconstitutional,” especially since the constitution stipulates in Article 69 that the “law shall regulate the provision of selecting one or more vice president.”

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/iraq-parliament-mps-maliki.html#ixzz61IG9rwEf

chattels   “The Iraqi parliament is in the process of redrafting its rules of procedure and interpreting the paragraphs on constitutional oath to lift any confusion regarding the refusal to attend the parliamentary session for political reasons or for other reasons," legislator Hussein al-Oqabi told Al-Monitor. “Several ideas and proposals are being considered regarding the new draft rules of procedure, most notably in relation to setting a time limit for taking the constitutional oath and the allowed number of absences for each member of parliament.”

It seems unlikely that the current parliament will amend the laws that have brought about this situation. The political blocs that dominate the political scene do not want to lose the benefits provided by the legislation in force. In the meantime, the blocs that formed the government (Sairoon and Fatah) are busy pondering the future of Abdul Mahdi because of doubts that he will complete his constitutional mandate.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/iraq-parliament-mps-maliki.html#ixzz61IGTGtqa

chattels   D - Y - S - F - U - N - C - T - I - O - N - A - L.

chattels   And that's the way that it is from the news that I read out of Iraq on this Thursday, October 3, 2019.

Madness   guess its safe to say, unless they get the iran corrupt idiots out of there, well will never see baxters dime

madness   we were so focused on US vs Iran now look, they have in one week destabilized the whole country, there is no way an RI or rv or anything coming soon, bet the gurus say oh hey everything is ok send more donations, too bad thought for a moment this was going to be a good month for dinar holders, well guess its for sure maybe and thats a BIG maybe 2020

Young_SC   madness well then cash out

Young_SC   And where are you getting 2020 from

madness   lol no I have to go to work dont have time plus I drank my iqd long ago

Young_SC   CBI GOI never gave a date

Young_SC   So im wondering for those who say 2020

Young_SC   Its simple if no one see's this investment going in tbe positive way then cash out

Young_SC   The*

Young_SC   Then*

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IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Evening 10-2-19

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Zig   To access "FLOAT ARTICLES" sent to me by Kaperoni please go to https://www.iqdcalls.com/kaperoni.html  also found on that page are Kaperoni's archived calls and his Tweets....IF you have interest...... :)

Kaperoni   The document i sent with articles and the links. But most of the links come from media sites that may or may not exist any longer but who cares the article is still there to read. Media sites come and go all the time. That does not make the information any less credible or not.

Kaperoni   Again, with excess of 42 trillion dinar outsife the banks which the cbi is liable for there can never be an overnight significant rv

Young_SC   Kaperoni In addition to the results achieved on the scope of monetary policy applications internally and convince global financial organizations, the most important official reports issued by them confirmed the success of the policy of the Central Bank to achieve an important transition to the Iraqi economy and achieve stability in the exchange rate and the recovery of the Iraqi dinar and raise its purchasing power, one of the objectives of strengthening the economy.

Kaperoni   The articles i sent range from 2018-2015 i think

Kaperoni   Much of what you guys are posting you misinterpret when they talk about stability of the dinar they're talkin about a period of time. Time the IMF requires in order to get acceptance into Article VIII.

 And if you go back and read the IMF Article IV Consultations you will see that they all mentioned stability because that is what they're doing at this time but that isn't long-term in fact it can't be long term because if they're going to get an influx of capital into the economy it's going to create significant inflationary pressure in which an alternative tool is necessary

Kaperoni   One of the articles I sent about the float is even more specific where it talks about the timing wasn't right in 2015 to float but once the conditions are in place and investment comes into the country then the conditions are ripe for a float so my point is these articles that you're reading or not absolute

Kaperoni   Zig unfortunately you have a bunch of people in here that are very very naive either they're new to the dinar or they're just outright * and want to believe but they're in for a wake-up call when they realize that they'll never get rich overnight.

It might take him a year or two more but eventually they're going to realize that there's just too much money in circulation for any kind of an overnight RV and more importantly it's just not how things are done. The CBI is a professional organization and uses tools to control the economy in the in Iraq they would never just significantly RV the currency

Zig   Dave : 20 trillion.....40 trillion.....what's a few trillion among friends??......lol..... :na;

Kaperoni   Look it's okay to accept the fact that you got taken by a con man. You fell for his BS religious nonsense and fall for his crap everyday that is fake including his contacts that are fake but the fact is better that you know now than later that you're never going to get rich overnight

Kaperoni   Zig exactly Ziggy doesn't matter anything over 2 trillion is too much

Young_SC   In addition to the results achieved on the scope of monetary policy applications internally and convince global financial organizations, the most important official reports issued by them confirmed the success of the policy of the Central Bank to achieve an important transition to the Iraqi economy and achieve stability in the exchange rate and the recovery of the Iraqi dinar and raise its purchasing power, one of the objectives of strengthening the economy.

Kaperoni   They've been using wheelbarrows for years what's the difference if they have to use them a few more? They're either going to do one of two things they're either going to Lop first to get to 1 to $1 exchange rate reducing the money supply from trillions to billions.

And then float the currency allowing it to rise. Or they're going to just float it from the beginning and allowed to gradually increase over time allowing them to reduce the money supply we don't know that answer yet but it's not going to RV

Young_SC   Kap that statement was from the CBI

Zig   Just say, Kap, I disagree with you and let it go.......

Zig   Peeps get too worked up about all this.....we will either profit "somehow" or we will not......simple.....

Kaperoni   You better off putting your time and energy into figuring this out on your own then listening to those morons. I've given you some good reading material through Zig you should all read it and then do some additional research to find out as much as you can about the transition to a market economy because that is the key to the success of the dinar. This is not some random event

Kaperoni   What do you think they're talking about when Parliament gets involved? They're talking about taking the zeros off the notes it's in print it's in the Articles themselves they were added back in 2003 because of the significant inflation the currency is that a point now where they can remove them where they just simply take them off and introduce a new currency

it's a neutral event nobody makes any money and if the dinar appreciates beyond that then you would make money. But you're talking about maybe doubling your money at best or tripling your money certainly not the significant game that the gurus are perpetuating

Dave   Kaperoni Sanctions killed their rate

Dave   we bombed them into obscurity

Kaperoni   But we don't want Parliament involved. And I'm pretty sure the IMF is told Iraq they don't want Parliament involved. And I think Iraq is figured out for themselves that they don't want to remove the zeros off the notes as Parliament as insisted.

So what we're hoping for is a significant amount of capital to come through the financial system and allowing the CBI then to float the currency which would allow the currency to go up drastically over months or years.

Dave   but that is what Russia Turkey Belarus Mexico Kuwait did.....

Kaperoni   And certainly it's not in Iraq's best interest to do that for their reputation internationally

Kaperoni   Look I'm a dinar investor and I want to make money but I want to also know the truth I don't want to sit on the edge of my seat every day to some BS about it's going to happen today or tomorrow or this stage is done or other nonsense these gurus makeup. So I researched this investment and find the truth

Kaperoni   Many of you think a float is just some kind of a idea or thought. But it's not its monetary policy. It's a tool and it's what most countries do. Most countries float and there's a reason for them doing what they do. And the CBI is creating the conditions now so that they can float the currency.

How do I know that? Because they've stated so. We're seeing a ton of effort put into the creation of a market economy and efforts to launch that which will create a substantial amount of capital in the country.

The result of all of that money flowing through the financial system will create inflationary pressure on the financial system and they must float to offset that pressure or they will lose control over the stability

Dave   1000 fils for that coke,......lol

Kaperoni   So this is not some opinion or random thought this is well documented. This is what central banks do they don't do anything arbitrarily

Dave   not hyperinflationary

Kaperoni   So what I did today was give Zig a bunch of float articles many of the links probably don't work anymore but that's because the media companies no longer exist but the article does.

So educate yourself and read all of those and learn about monetary policy and creating the conditions you will feel much better about this investment

Deano   rate comes out at $3.91 and floats up to $6.00. I can handle that.

Dave   Deano weeha

Zig   https://www.iqdcalls.com/kaperoni.html   link to articles above archived calls..needs downloading, etc

Kaperoni   Deano   There's / 42 trillion dinar they can't RV at a dime and support that.

Dave   Kaperoni yes you mentioned that cbi pays govt employees in sacks stuffed with cash

Kaperoni   They have to reduce the money supply and they can't do under the current daily auction program. The only way they can do it is to reduce it gradually as they get people to bring the dinar into the banking system. Remember the CBI stated clearly that in excess of 45 trillion existed outside the banking system

Kaperoni   Even if all of the money was electronic in the financial system and there wasn't any money outside the financial system they still couldn't just make the zeros go away because that would be a lop and anyone who held physical currency would be taking advantage. So they have to be treated equal both electronic currency and physical currency

Dave   Kaperoni cash went to pay salaries

Dave   cBI pays govt employees now....?

Kaperoni   But the problem is like I've already said the CBI has already come out and stated clearly that there's an excessive 45 trillion outside the banking system. whatever the amount is it's it's a lot it's more than the world's money supply. And they need to reduce that before they could ever add any significant value to the currency.

Kaperoni   So they either Lop, and Parliament gets their way. Or they reduce the money supply gradually and Float the currency

Dave   I've already said the CBI has already come out and stated clearly that there's an excessive 45 trillion outside the banking system.

Dave   show me pretty please

Kaperoni   I just hope people that are in this chat room start getting their heads on straight and not listening to the guru nonsense because it's all fake. There is no overnight significant RV but I have to go so have a good day

Kaperoni   Dave I posted in this chat room so you'll have to go back a few days and the link is already there I don't have time to find that article again but it's a direct published article of information from the CBI

Deano   @Kaperoni It’s either this week or next week where they are actually going to come out with [Lower Denom] pictures IMO. It will be Allaq…to come out and say we’re ready to distribute the lower denoms. But before that, pictures and explanations of these lower denoms.om Frank26

Dave   Kaperoni yes read it......printed was my take

Dave   translation difficulties again i suppose

Deano   Now what does those three initials stand for? And can you provide proof that this is wrong? I've asked Frank26 if he can provide any confirmation.

Dave   even added braille

Dave   printed 45 T to replace those old ones yrs back

Dave   If wheel barrows and 1000 fils for a coke make the most reasonable sense from an economic perspective....... I really need to join up with TNT et-al

Zig   None of the people out there have any control over this.....so take it all with that proverbial "Grain of Salt"......all we can do is either wait or quit.....

Xyz   Zig 10-2-2019 Intel Guru Frank26 ...It's either this week or next week where they are actually going to come out with [Lower Denom] pictures IMO...It will be Allaq...to come out and say we're ready to distribute the lower denoms...But before that, pictures and explanation of these lower denoms...

Dave   I just hope they ramp up the protests...read 15 days to issue warrants for the corruptors...or ????

Dave   (BAGHDAD: Euphrates News) The parliamentary opposition announced its full solidarity with the legitimate demands of the demonstrators.

"It is regrettable that the country has witnessed a marked decline in the situation and the spread of popular protests in most areas of Baghdad and the provinces, and we express our deep regret over the deaths of demonstrators and security forces," the statement said.

He added, "While we call on the demonstrators from our people to take peaceful methods of demonstrating and expressing their protest and the preservation of public and private money and not to allow engineers to enter their ranks to miss the opportunity on their trainees and achieve the desired goals of demonstrations and sit-ins."

The opposition front announced today "its full solidarity with the legitimate demands of the demonstrators and we believe that all the declared demands are true demands and can be implemented with deliberate steps within a short period of time."

It demanded the following:

Zig   Hey FLOATING is better than SINKING ya know......lol

Dave   1 - We call the Presidency of the House of Representatives to convene an emergency session and the presence of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces devoted to discuss security events and the development of legislative solutions and obligate the government to implement them.

2 - Compensation of the victims who died as a result of the recent demonstrations, whether civilians or security forces, and hold the negligent.

3- Providing job opportunities for our young people by operating factories and factories that are stopped after they are invested and withholding the privileges of special grades and presidencies and turning them into job grades for the unemployed.

4 - The Government to open the door of investment and overcome all obstacles and red tape that prevents the bringing of capital and technology to the country and give priority to the employment of local labor, especially in oil companies and dispensing with foreign workers.

5 - Referring all those who claim the economic work of the parties and committing the Supreme Council against Corruption to submit large corruption files to the judiciary and names and within a period not exceeding 15 days.

6- Obliging the two ministries of higher education to operate the degree holders by requiring universities to work on a system of separation from morning to evening.

 https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=2&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&u=http://www.alforatnews.com/

Deano   @Young_SC I'm not going to look down on anyone who does research. Hell I research topics and documents for school all the time lol. But I'm not going to bash anyone because I think I'm right and they're wrong

Young_SC   Once the lower denoms come out for the citizens as quoted by the CBI a few times then the rate does have to change

Young_SC   Lower notes do not line up with the 1190 rate right now

Young_SC   Mathematically

Young_SC   Deano That is why i told a few people including Baxter that honestly i think people should be paying attention to what Frank is saying

Doug_W   Silver:$17.65

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IQD CALLS Chat Early Wednesday 10-2-19

IQD CALLS Chat Early Wednesday 10-2-19

Kaperoni   Since Tebow likes economist Peace Sumaisem so much here is a much better article from her on the Iraqi economist website. lol

Kaperoni   LINK

Kaperoni   The important part....

Kaperoni   The financial market is a necessary condition for completing the conditions of the market economy.

The stock market “according to the laws of the market economy” needs a set of measures in order to do its part, including:

1_ moving interest rates in banks according to the volume of trading of shares and other securities in the market,

(Ii) the freedom to enter and remove foreign currency;

3_ float the national currency exchange rate,

4_ and the freedom of foreign capital to invest in this market

Kaperoni   I am putting about 20 articles together from Iraq experts and will email to Zig. He then can email any of you who still think your going to get rich overnight.

Kaperoni    later.

Doug_W   Silver:$17.35

chattels    Baghdad protests turn violent, killing 1, injuring 200 https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/01102019

Doug_W   what a mess

chattels   Iraq removes military commander who defeated ISIS on the ground https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/28092019

chattels   Erbil, Baghdad could reach deal on oil, budget in October: Oil Minister https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/280920192

chattels   Iraq’s oil revenue stable for September https://www.rudaw.net/english/business/02102019

chattels   Iraq 'needs a rest' from conflict: President Barham Salih https://www.rudaw.net/english/interview/01102019

chattels   u met with US President Donald Trump. What was your main demand from him?

He commended Iraq’s progress. He spoke about US-Iraq relations, how to make efforts to improve such relations, and about building on Iraq’s progress. We spoke about the situation in the region post-Daesh [Islamic State].

He greatly praised victory over Daesh (Islamic State), describing it as a big achievement. Yet we will need to work to guarantee that terrorists do not come back to Iraq, and to the region as a whole. However, it needs a lot of work in terms of security, economy and politics.

chattels   " it ( IRAQ ) needs a lot of work in terms of security, economy and politics."

Doug_W   4 sure

chattels    Iraqi Security Media Cell: there were protests today demanding better government services & work opportunities in Baghdad & a number of provinces. The protests were accompanied by violence. 1 dead & 200 injured, including 40 from security forces.

chattels   After protests today in Iraq with some violence, Iraqi PM Abdel-Mahdi announces investigation into the causes. http://mobp.as/DNbTp

chattels   Reported video of Iraqi Security Forces firing on protesters in Baghdad’s Tahriir Square today.

LINK

chattels   Breaking: Protest waves erupting in several neighborhoods in #baghdad #iraq , it is 3:21 AM and people are still taking to the street, using violence against the protesters increased their numbers by ten folds or more , Iraqi government made a critical miscalculation

chattels   Sadr City earlier tonight, government forces shot and killed a young protester from the city, his entire tribe, friends, neighbors etc came out to mourn him, armed to the fullest. The PM has dug himsf in a deep hole

chattels   https://twitter.com/JoelWing2

chattels   https://twitter.com/thestevennabil  

chattels   Baghdad / Nina / Foreign currency markets in Baghdad, on Wednesday, a slight rise in the exchange rate of the US dollar against the Iraqi dinar.

 The market price in Baghdad today 1204 dinars per dollar, or 120 thousand and 400 dinars for one hundred dollars after it was yesterday 1203 dinars per dollar.

https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=790692

chattels   Tariq Harb calls for the formation of a high-level investigative committee to find out everything related to the ongoing demonstrations in Baghdad and a number of provinces

Wednesday 02 October 09:30 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=790670

chattels   No electricity, no jobs and no money except for the corrupt elite for starters.

chattels   Just what Iraq needs - another commission, but a high level one. This has become a sad tale and a bad joke.

chattels   Have a fine day all.

larrykn   One killed three injured in Baghdad`s demonstrations https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44101/One-killed-three-injured-in-Baghdad-s-demonstrations

larrykn   Iran sentences man to death for spying for the CIA https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44102/Iran-sentences-man-to-death-for-spying-for-the-CIA

larrykn   Iraq’s parliament calls for UN action on attacks on Popular Mobilization Forces https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44103/Iraq-s-parliament-calls-for-UN-action-on-attacks-on-Popular-Mobilization-Forces

larrykn   Military intelligence kill ISIS leader, four aides in Salahuddin https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44106/Military-intelligence-kill-ISIS-leader-four-aides-in-Salahuddin

larrykn   Iraqi protests turn deadly as security forces open fire on demonstrators https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44104/Iraqi-protests-turn-deadly-as-security-forces-open-fire-on-demonstrators

larrykn   Heavy security in Baghdad day after 2 protesters killed https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44107/Heavy-security-in-Baghdad-day-after-2-protesters-killed

larrykn   Iraqi protests enter second day after clashes with security forces https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44109/Iraqi-protests-enter-second-day-after-clashes-with-security-forces

Larrykn   UN expresses concern over violence in Iraq protests https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44110/UN-expresses-concern-over-violence-in-Iraq-protests

larrykn   8 Iraqi injured in second day of protests https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44111/8-Iraqi-injured-in-second-day-of-protests

Young_SC   futuremoney Clay do you agree with kap that it will take 20 years lol

Clay   no way

Clay   Iraq will be gone by then if they dont move on with the rest of the world

Clay   and the protesting would turn very violent

Clay   a civil war

Young_SC   Lolol

Young_SC   Clay some people prefer to make up theories or go by old testimonies thinking what was appropriate 10 or 6 years ago is not appropriate now because of conditions or circumstances

Young_SC   Some cannot grasp onto that instead they get emotional and hold on to outdated information proclaiming that they are always correct while everyone else's opinion is beneath them

Clay   agree

Clay   Iraq needs to rejoin the world

Clay   not be left behind

Clay   and 4 US security we need to make sure they do

Clay   dont need more radicals

Deano   So I have a question for Kap. These documents you're going to email to Zig, how old are they? 5-10 years? 10-15 years?

Zig   To access "FLOAT ARTICLES" sent to me by Kaperoni please go to https://www.iqdcalls.com/kaperoni.html  also found on that page are Kaperoni's archived calls and his Tweets....IF you have interest...... :)

Kaperoni   The document i sent with articles and the links. But most of the links come from media sites that may or may not exist any longer but who cares the article is still there to read. Media sites come and go all the time. That does not make the information any less credible or not.

Kaperoni   Again, with excess of 42 trillion dinar outsife the banks which the cbi is liable for there can never be an overnight significant rv

Young_SC   Kaperoni In addition to the results achieved on the scope of monetary policy applications internally and convince global financial organizations, the most important official reports issued by them confirmed the success of the policy of the Central Bank to achieve an important transition to the Iraqi economy and achieve stability in the exchange rate and the recovery of the Iraqi dinar and raise its purchasing power, one of the objectives of strengthening the economy.

Kaperoni   The articles i sent range from 2018-2015 i think

Young_SC   http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17644

Young_SC   Kap what i just posted is from the CBI

Young_SC   take some time to read it

Young_SC   https://www.mawazin.net/Details.aspx?Jimare=61023

Zig   https://www.iqdcalls.com/kaperoni.html  To access articles sent to IQD Calls via me today from Kaperoni.....link is above archived calls

Young_SC   Kaperoni the second one is from the Finance Minister

Young_SC   Kap none of your articles comes the CBI nor from the Finance Minister

Young_SC   I do not care for an economist report

Deano   @Kap. And what gives you the right to say Frank26 or anyone else for that matter is dead wrong? I'm not choosing sides because I'll call anyone out. But you say everyone is wrong and you're right.

Young_SC   Deano LOL

Kaperoni   Much of what you guys are posting you misinterpret when they talk about stability of the dinar they're talkin about a period of time. Time the IMF requires in order to get acceptance into Article VIII.

 And if you go back and read the IMF Article IV Consultations you will see that they all mentioned stability because that is what they're doing at this time but that isn't long-term in fact it can't be long term because if they're going to get an influx of capital into the economy it's going to create significant inflationary pressure in which an alternative tool is necessary

Kaperoni   One of the articles I sent about the float is even more specific where it talks about the timing wasn't right in 2015 to float but once the conditions are in place and investment comes into the country then the conditions are ripe for a float so my point is these articles that you're reading or not absolute

Young_SC   Kaperoni Ahhhh so what i posted is translation error ehhh

Young_SC   Always a translation error

Dave   Kaperoni you just mentioned the note count was more than 20 T in your opinion.......back to 42 T today i see????

Kaperoni   Xig unfortunately you have a bunch of people in here that are very very naive either they're new to the dinar or they're just outright stupid and want to believe but they're in for a wake-up call when they realize that they'll never get rich overnight.

It might take him a year or two more but eventually they're going to realize that there's just too much money in circulation for any kind of an overnight RV and more importantly it's just not how things are done. The CBI is a professional organization and uses tools to control the economy in the in Iraq they would never just significantly RV the currency

Young_SC   Kaperoni Did you take 20 seconds to look at the two articles i just posted?

Zig   Dave : 20 trillion.....40 trillion.....what's a few trillion among friends??......lol..... :na;

Kaperoni   Look it's okay to accept the fact that you got taken by a con man. You fell for his BS religious nonsense and fall for his crap everyday that is fake including his contacts that are fake but the fact is better that you know now than later that you're never going to get rich overnight

Kaperoni   Zig exactly Ziggy doesn't matter anything over 2 trillion is too much

Young_SC   In addition to the results achieved on the scope of monetary policy applications internally and convince global financial organizations, the most important official reports issued by them confirmed the success of the policy of the Central Bank to achieve an important transition to the Iraqi economy and achieve stability in the exchange rate and the recovery of the Iraqi dinar and raise its purchasing power, one of the objectives of strengthening the economy.

Kaperoni   They've been using wheelbarrows for years what's the difference if they have to use them a few more? They're either going to do one of two things they're either going to Lop first to get to 1 to $1 exchange rate reducing the money supply from trillions to billions.

And then float the currency allowing it to rise. Or they're going to just float it from the beginning and allowed to gradually increase over time allowing them to reduce the money supply we don't know that answer yet but it's not going to RV

Young_SC   Kap that statement was from the CBI

Zig   Just say, Kap, I disagree with you and let it go.......

Zig   Peeps get too worked up about all this.....we will either profit "somehow" or we will not......simple.....

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IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Night 10-1-19

IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Night 10-1-19

Dave   as banking is no where in Iraq ...CBI needs to make money somehow?

Dave   any of you folks familiar with fractional indexing used by banks?

Wilder   Dave couldn't find indexing. Fractional banking. Fractional reserve banking is a banking system in which banks only hold a fraction of the money their customers' deposit as reserves.

This allows them to use the rest of it to make loans and thereby essentially create new money. This gives commercial banks the power to directly affect the money supply

Dave   and leverage each loan up to 1000times

Wilder   And not including collateral.

Dave   Cbi makes 9 % on each loan a bank writes

Tebow   wish I could make 9%

Dave   just over 20% of the pop use banks currently......

Tebow   we go to negative rates in the states, that will be here

Dave   Wilder suspect SandyF will give us an education on this

Wilder   They need to do just like our country here. Just keep the printing presses running. Raise the rate backed with nothing.

Xyz   From well respected Iraqi economist back in march 2015.. Kaperoni were you sleeping in March 2015?

ء Economy  Thursday, March 5, 2015 06:10 PM

Expert: delete the zeros supports the national currency and reduce inflation in the country

BAGHDAD / ... confirmed an economic expert d. Peace Sumaisem, on Thursday, on the importance of the subject of the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi dinar, considering it as a support of the national currency, and a reduction of inflation in the country.

Sumaisem said, in a statement to "Ein Iraq News", " delete the zeros includes two basic objectives, the deletion of zeros, and the restructuring of the Iraqi currency, instead of the $ 100 equals 120 000 Iraqi dinars, after deleting three zeros become a $ 100 equals 100 Iraqi dinars, which is equal to the dollar and the dinar This means strengthening the Iraqi currency. "

"The country suffers deficit as Iraq does not it can support its currency unless received grants from third parties, and whether this possible implementation it is important, reframes the value of the currency indirectly supporting the national currency, and when structuring currency returned it reduces inflation Iraq ". Finished / 13

http://aynaliraqnews.com/index.php?aa=news&id22=33283

Wilder   xyz and the crowd goes wild. Applause with a standing ovation.

Tebow     Guru xyz strengthening the Iraqi currency. Thank you for that!

TWWIII   My CCU MGR call me at noon to see if I could come down today. She said there may be an event we've discussed. This pertains to another branch meeting Friday.. They wanted me to talk abt a Certification of Trust-WA.I was asked to bring my report (not my currencies) of what I have. They would like, when it happens, to do my exchanges. They agreed with me at only a 1% exchange fee.

TWWIII   They have had many many training sessions. I mentioned I have hired The Protection Group LLC.

Dave   1% thats good.....

TWWIII   Dave What a long talk today we had.

HOT PEPPER   you know, you are still going to have to pay the Capital Gains Tax, no way around it

TWWIII   HOT PEPPER Yes on the interest

HOT PEPPER   and pricpal also

Wilder   TWWIII rate?

HOT PEPPER   Princpal*

TWWIII    Wilder rate, ????

HOT PEPPER   why tie up your money ? get it out there in circulation, make money with it Guys

Tebow   HOT PEPPER lt's going to be taxed as income not capital gains

TWWIII    Wilder They do not have a rate, at least she said they don't yet

HOT PEPPER   same thing

HOT PEPPER   different name

HOT PEPPER    theres no difference

Wilder   TWWIII Never mind. I misread. Sorry

HOT PEPPER   just being honest and straight forward with it

TWWIII    HOT PEPPER You have no idea of our humanitarian plans we have.We will be putting a large amt of money in circulation.

HOT PEPPER   Oh I do Know

HOT PEPPER   I got 15 of them

Dave   what if you just travelled around your city and exchange a few notes a day at the different forexes

HOT PEPPER   one rate

TWWIII   Not sure

HOT PEPPER   unless you make a deal with the Bank for a higher rate , but the Bank decides why your money goes

HOT PEPPER   where*

TWWIII   HOT PEPPER Sorry dude, u weren't there with me

HOT PEPPER   TWWII , I been in this since before Frank

HOT PEPPER   2002

TWWIII   SO

HOT PEPPER   I know what they are doing

Wilder   Invest in Wilder bank then I'll file bankruptcy and leave the ****ry.

HOT PEPPER   but hey no skin oiff my chin

TWWIII   I have been buying, selling & trading medals & currencies since the 80's

HOT PEPPER   Naw , don't leave guy, there are some really super good oppertunitues ahead of you

HOT PEPPER   well anyone can do that WWII

HOT PEPPER   the trick is where is it going ?

HOT PEPPER   futures

HOT PEPPER   inside track

HOT PEPPER    that you don't know my friend

TWWIII   U have no clue abt me sir & my family nor our foundation

Dave   Deano been torpedoed too many times

HOT PEPPER   TwwII, look im not here to get in a pissing match with you

HOT PEPPER   you have followed the trend that has been going on for 200 years

TWWIII   Nor am I

HOT PEPPER   all that is about to change, a new way of thinking

HOT PEPPER     sso lets learn from one another

Tebow   HOT PEPPER 2002 hummmm The current Iraqi dinar did not come out until sept 2003

HOT PEPPER   right, but I knew about it ahead of time

HOT PEPPER    the areas of a good program will be in areas of Housing, Food ,Water and Medical, and Energy

Dave   xyz   From well respected Iraqi economist back in march 2015.. Kaperoni were you sleeping in March 2015? ....

ء Economy   Thursday, March 5, 2015 06:10 PM

Expert: delete the zeros supports the national currency and reduce inflation in the country

BAGHDAD / ... confirmed an economic expert d. Peace Sumaisem, on Thursday, on the importance of the subject of the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi dinar, considering it as a support of the national currency, and a reduction of inflation in the country.

Sumaisem said, in a statement to "Ein Iraq News", " delete the zeros includes two basic objectives, the deletion of zeros, and the restructuring of the Iraqi currency, instead of the $ 100 equals 120 000 Iraqi dinars, after deleting three zeros become a $ 100 equals 100 Iraqi dinars, which is equal to the dollar and the dinar This means strengthening the Iraqi currency. "

"The country suffers deficit as Iraq does not it can support its currency unless received grants from third parties, and whether this possible implementation it is important, reframes the value of the currency indirectly supporting the national currency, and when structuring currency returned it reduces inflation Iraq ". Finished / 13 http://aynaliraqnews.com/index.php?aa=news&id22=33283

Wilder    xyz and the crowd goes wild. Applause with a standing ovation.

Doug_W   I second that Wilder

Tebow   well respected Iraqi economist. 1 to 1 ...... That's not a float

Dean   ooh but @Tebow they're going to float for sure

Wilder   Dave you can scrap your wheelbarrow now.

Dave   Wilder Kap;s not mine.....

Dave   1000 fils for that coke though....??;

Dave   if that aint hyper-inflationary.....

Wilder   If it's 1 to 1. I'll buy a case

Dave   no at .00086 and gradually raise it

Dave   a case would take one of Baxs semis

Wilder   No float

Xyz    Tebow 10-1-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni The Iraq government is striving to create a market economy with private investment. Doing so would bring substantial money into the country.

This would create inflationary pressure on the financial system, the solution is to float the currency to relieve that pressure. It also would allow the CBI to profit by controlling the currency, buying and selling making commissions. Any kind of RV would circumvent those tools. [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

xyz   10-1-2019 Intel Guru MarkZ I am looking for a fantastic day…If news is as good as I expect…..you will be hearing from me again today...Today

Tebow   xyz private investment will not come into Iraq until they have a stable rate. Private investors want to make money. With a float it can go up or down in value. Thus they will not invest.

Kaperoni   There not investing in the exchange rate. There investing in the private sector.

Kaperoni    The  tool to float the currency is to offset pressure created by the influx of capital from investors that causes inflation.

Tebow   BAGHDAD / ... confirmed an economic expert d. Peace Sumaisem, on Thursday, on the importance of the subject of the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi dinar... Sumaisem said, in a statement to "Ein Iraq News", " delete the zeros includes two basic objectives, the deletion of zeros, and the restructuring of the Iraqi currency, instead of the $ 100 equals 120 000 Iraqi dinars, after deleting three zeros become a $ 100 equals 100 Iraqi dinars, which is equal to the dollar and the dinar This means strengthening the Iraqi currency. "

Kaperoni   She also said in another article that it was time to float the currency so maybe you should read all the Articles not just one that goes to your cause because the one she's talking about there is a Lop

Kaperoni   Again in excess of 42 trillion dinar in circulation outside the banking system makes it impossible to RV the currency. Impossible

Kaperoni   You don't have to be any kind of scientist or expert to understand 42 trillion is more money than anyone could ever significantly RV

Kaperoni   Even Sandy said the other day it's impossible to RV the currency within excessive 42 trillion

Xyz   Kaperoni you are making silly and ridiculous statements

Kaperoni   XYZ I don't talk about things I know nothing about unlike you

Tebow   Kaperoni really you know nothing

xyz   Kaperoni yes you do wagging imf documents as holy grail

Kaperoni   No I'm not making silly and ridiculous statements I posted an article in this very chat room about a week ago that said clearly that the central bank had released information there was an excessive 42 trillion outside the banking system.

That is backed up by the IMF documents it's also backed up by independent Consultants and if you think those three organizations are lying just so that you can get rich off the dinar your fool

Tebow   Kaperoni you have a float document?

Tebow   Can you provide one FLOAT document to support your opinion?

Kaperoni   There are many documents to talk about floating the currency but more importantly it's how central banks work it's what they do when you have an influx of capital into the financial system it creates pressure on the financial system you have to float the currency in order to offset that pressure there's no ifs ands or buts

Kaperoni   And clearly everyone knows that Iraq is preparing for a market economy and a substantial amount of investment next year in excess of 80 billion dollars that's a substantial amount of money coming through the financial system of Iraq which clearly will create pressure

JoeSchmoe   Kaperoni I'm curious. Why do you continually come in here where 99% of the people think you are full *? You continually say the same things over and over again, as if if you say them enough times, everyone will all of a sudden say, "Hey Kap, you are right. Thankyou so much for never going away!" It makes no sense why someone would purposely come in here when he knows everyone will give him *?

Kaperoni   If they don't float the currency they will lose control of the financial system it will become unstable inflation will go through the roof

Tebow   Kaperoni FLOAT document please?

Kaperoni   I can tell you that you should be able to find them there are at least 10 to 20 of them discussing the float not to mention the IMF request to the Central Bank of Iraq

JoeSchmoe   you may as well put your posts on a repeater, because I see the same thing from you every single time. In here, and in every recaps wanna be out there

Kaperoni   Someone has to tell the truth *********** ******8

Tebow   Kaperoni so again you do not have one

Kaperoni   Believe me I have every document ever written that came out of the Middle East or any article or research paper I have them all but I don't share with *

Kaperoni   But the dinar will never overnight RV that's a fact

Kaperoni   You should know by now I don't have opinions I have fax everything I say is facts

Kaperoni  . If the Dinars ever going to go up in value it'll go up based on sound principles and facts just like a doctor a surgeon they don't randomly go into someone I just cut them up and everything they do is based on sound factual information that's the same thing as a Central Bank of Iraq everything they do is based on sound factual information nothing is random ever

Kaperoni   Have a good night enjoy your Dreamland

Tebow     BAGHDAD / ... confirmed an economic expert d. Peace Sumaisem, on Thursday, on the importance of the subject of the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi dinar... Sumaisem said, in a statement to "Ein Iraq News", " delete the zeros includes two basic objectives, the deletion of zeros, and the restructuring of the Iraqi currency, instead of the $ 100 equals 120 000 Iraqi dinars, after deleting three zeros become a $ 100 equals 100 Iraqi dinars, which is equal to the dollar and the dinar This means strengthening the Iraqi currency. "

Tebow   I'll go with the Iraqi economic expert over Kap anyday!

Indiana holder   Tebow think will happen b4 end of year. looks like all have been waiting a long time. A friend that talked me into it says VERY SOON

Tebow   indiana holder no one knows but we wait

Xyz   As prophesied.... 10-1-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni I want to point out to critical events between now and the end of the year. One is the vote through Parliament on Special Grades, the other being the 2020 budget which the supposed to include the launching of the market economy.

Iraq is at a critical stage right now not only with an abundance of laws that still need to be passed, but they are in dire need to lure private investors in to rebuild. [post 2 of 2]

Wilder   Wished Okie was still around. He would know. Or Rangerr77. Shotgun Suzy. The General.

Wilder   Okie has been trashed so many times for calling thefalse RV's that he feels so bad about doing that. I got info from another member on another board, stating that if the RV were to come out lower than 4.40 as he has predicted for many months now, that he would make up the difference if it came out under 4.40...... sounds like a win win situation.... no need to worry about an 86 cent rv...... Okie has us all covered...... go RV wahoo...... can I get a Nuff Said, Done Deal Cash in covered by OKie....

Any other confirmation on this?  September 8, 2011

WPY   The most unfathomable concept in Dinarland : WHY do we not have a RELIABLE source of information ?

WPY   With all the ALLEGED good guys SUPPOSEDLY working for us, yet no site, blog or news source has any reliable, verifiable information on the biggest financial change the planet has likely ever seen. What's up with that ?

Kaperoni   Since Tebow likes economist Peace Sumaisem so much here is a much better article from her on the Iraqi economist website. lol

Kaperoni   LINK   

Kaperoni   The important part....

Kaperoni   The financial market is a necessary condition for completing the conditions of the market economy.

The stock market “according to the laws of the market economy” needs a set of measures in order to do its part, including:

1_ moving interest rates in banks according to the volume of trading of shares and other securities in the market,

(Ii) the freedom to enter and remove foreign currency;

3_ float the national currency exchange rate,

4_ and the freedom of foreign capital to invest in this market

Kaperoni   I am putting about 20 articles together from Iraq experts and will email to Zig. He then can email any of you who still think your going to get rich overnight.

Kaperoni   later.

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IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Afternoon 10-1-19

IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Afternoon 10-1-19

Dave   Clay read the news today about the protests......?

Clay   no not really been on not in the best of moods today

Clay   protests about what

Clay   services?

Dave   Corruption laws unemployment

Clay   still huh?

Wilder   Dave Iraq?

Clay   how about here in Congress

Clay   Bidens

Clay   no forgot they r not corrupt they are innocent collecting billions

Clay   omg

Dave   Wilder (Baghdad: Euphrates News) The government media cell announced a joint statement of the ministries of interior and health on the demonstrations today.

The statement received the agency (Euphrates News) a copy of it “witnessed the capital Baghdad and a number of provinces launch protests demanding the provision of public services and employment opportunities.”

The cell “regretted the violence accompanied by these protests, issued by a group of rioters to overthrow the real content of these demands and stripped of the peacefulness of which they came out, and that while we stand in solidarity with the freedom of expression guaranteed by the Constitution,

and based on the principle of national responsibility, we call All citizens to calm and restraint, and stress the continuation of the security services in the performance of their duties in order to ensure the security and safety of the demonstrators.

 The Ministry of Health, according to the statement, “on the continuation of its medical staff to provide treatment to the wounded who were received by health institutions, where recorded one death,

while the number of wounded 200 wounded, including 40 injured members of the security services, a number of them came out after receiving first aid, with continued Medical staff in providing health care for the remaining 50 ”

https://alforatnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=213981

Clay   dont blame the protestors

Wilder   Soros behind it?

Wilder   Or whatever his name is

Dave   Al-Madar got the demands of a demonstration tomorrow (Tuesday, October 1, 2019) that will be launched in Bashtak.

The demands are:

1- Declaring a real war on corruption and opening all files of corruption with the help of international bodies specialized in corruption cases

And legislation the law from where you get this.

2. Preventing the interference of political parties and blocs in government work, separating political entitlement from government positions and establishing the Federal Service Council.

3 – Formation of the Construction Council, which consists of specialists to be responsible for all projects and future plans of the country.

4. Really support the private sector, protect the domestic product to eliminate unemployment, move the local economy, maintain foreign currency within the country and open the door for real domestic and foreign investments.

5 – Cancellation of the currency auction and the adoption of free market policy.

 6. To confine arms to the State in a genuine manner and to abolish all armed manifestations and the militarization of society.

7- Restructuring all government sectors, especially the service ones, to be real productive sectors.

8 – Restructuring and organization of the institution of education and fast and urgent in order to produce a successful educational sector according to international standards.

9. Amending the Electoral Law to be a fair law and preserving the rights of all.

10. Repeal and amend all laws and legislations that contravene the Constitution and immediately apply the disabled paragraphs of the Constitution and abolish all special privilege laws.

■ Give an opportunity not more than 15 days to start the implementation of the above or else the ceiling of our demands next time will be higher and bigger

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Clay   hes behind everything unfortunately

Doug_W   what a mess over there

Clay   yep

Dave   nodda happening yet......?

Dave   in this session....hmmmmm?

Doug_W   they are passing laws that contradict other lawsw like that hydrocarbon law

Doug_W   what amess

Tebow   Dave like 5 – Cancellation of the currency auction and the adoption of free market policy.

Clay   canceling the auctions would be good

Clay   always heard that whether true or not

Clay   Tebow I agree

Tebow   yes free market, they would have to do something

Clay   need diar b4 this could happen

Dave   as banking is no where in Iraq ...CBI needs to make money somehow?

Dave   any of you folks familiar with fractional indexing used by banks?

Crazycrypto   seems Mahdi's back is against the wall

Dave   Crazycrypto thats why they chose an independent

Crazycrypto   hoping that no one gets killed wit the massive protests going on seems the people ave finally had enough

Crazycrypto   what do you mean dave?

Dave   protests for the same things for yrs now.......

Crazycrypto   i agree Dave but at some point something has gotta give

Dave   Madhi has no strong party affiliation

Crazycrypto   hes an agent of Iran

Crazycrypto   seems that way anyhow

Clay   they all r

Crazy   cryptotrue clay

Clay   Started with Maliki

Dave   thought just really depose able

Crazycrypto   sadly Iraqis seem they cant escape them

Clay   shocked we havent heard from sistani or whats his name

Clay   sadr

Clay   in a very long time

Crazycrypto   isnt Sadr in charge of these protest?

Dave   in the news today

Clay   probably

Clay   but hasnt said much

futuremoney   sadr sucks

Crazycrypto   i cant believe we are in the 4th quarter of 2019

Clay   he used to have a voice

Crazycrypto   seems unreal

Clay   yep

Crazycrypto   this year went by fast

Clay   another year

Crazycrypto yep

Wilder   Dave couldn't find indexing. Fractional banking. Fractional reserve banking is a banking system in which banks only hold a fraction of the money their customers' deposit as reserves. This allows them to use the rest of it to make loans and thereby essentially create new money. This gives commercial banks the power to directly affect the money supply

Dave   and leverage each loan up to 1000times

Wilder   And not including collateral.

Dave   Cbi makes 9 % on each loan a bank writes

Tebow   wish I could make 9%

Dave   just over 20% of the pop use banks currently......

Tebow   we go to negative rates in the states, that will be here

Dave   Wilder suspect SandyF will give us an education on this

Wilder   U read my mind

Wilder   They need to do just like our country here. Just keep the printing presses running. Raise the rate backed with nothing.

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IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 10-1-19

 IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 10-1-19

sandyf   @Sparky sandyf silk road is not a fallacy...it's going on...today...Wake up...

Wake up to what!!!, something that is taking place literally on my doorstep. The new routes from the Rayong industrial area to Myanmar and China are part of the silk road initiative and pass about 200 metres from my house.

sandyf   @xyz Kaperoni you don't even know what percentage is in the cbi, banks, under the mattress, etc and yet you claim that you are the smartest guru saint

It is totally irrelevant how much currency is held where, the only significant figure is the liability on the CBI that appears in their accounts. At the end of August that figure stood at over 48 trillion dinar and the IMF projection takes that figure to nearly 60 trillion over the next 5 years.

If you cannot understand that point then there is no credibility in what you say, trying to say the CBI and IMF are falsifying the accounts just does not hold water.

TWWIII   In light of the strategy of the Central Bank of Iraq to achieve financial inclusion, and improve digital banking services, and modern technologies, to ensure easy access to those services provided to different segments of society,

 this bank directed all banks licensed to provide mobile phone application service (Mobile Banking) , ensuring the facilitation of banking service for beneficiaries

And ensure the availability of protection and confidentiality systems for them, to be implemented within a specified period of time from the date of issuance of instructions from this bank.

Central Bank of Iraq  information Office   30 September 2019 https://cbi.iq/news/view/1301

foxmulder   TWWIII that's interesting

foxmulder   Slight progress

foxmulder   Just need a rate change go with it

chattels   In first, Iraq PM points finger at Israel on base attacks https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/300920191

chattels   Al-Wala'i: Abdul-Mahdi's announcement that Israel was behind the bombing of the Hashd headquarters, a green light to take revenge

Tuesday 01 October 00:27 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=790344

chattels   Khazali comments on Abdul Mahdi's declaration of Israel's responsibility to target the Popular Mobilization

Monday , 30 September 23:30 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=790340

chattels   Iraqi PM Abdel-Mahdi says Israel is responsible for some attacks on PMF (Hashd) ammunition storage facilities in Iraq. Asa’ib Ahl al-Haqq militia says government must reserve the right to respond to this aggression. http://mobp.as/puTSp

chattels   Israeli Armed Forces decline to comment on Iraqi PM’s statement that Israel has attacked PMF (Hashd) positions in Iraq. More than 5 attacks have occurred in past months. http://mobp.as/YyTSp

chattels   Kurdistan and the International Coalition: ISIS threatens some areas of Iraq LINK

chattels   US pushes Iraq to integrate Iran-backed PMU militias after strikes

Jack Detsch September 30, 2019

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/us-push-iraq-integrate-iran-back-pmu-strikes-baghdad.html#ixzz614Vb8hhi

chattels   The PMU consists of as many as 40 groups under Iraqi and Iranian authority, the Pentagon says, possibly totaling some 160,000 fighters. Iraq’s government issued an executive order in July to bring Iranian-backed factions of the PMU under Baghdad’s control, and the United States plans to assist with identifying elements that will be demobilized.

Mulroy, who is set to leave the Trump administration next month, called Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi’s order to reign in the group “an important step towards ensuring Iraq's future as a strong, sovereign, unified, democratic, and prosperous state.”

The Pentagon’s top Middle East policy official cautioned, however, “Implementation of the decree will be key, and we will continue to engage with the Government of Iraq on the need to enforce this Executive Order.”

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/us-push-iraq-integrate-iran-back-pmu-strikes-baghdad.html#ixzz614Vo8fjj

chattels   The difference between ideation and implementation or rhetoric and reality in Iraq. It is a chasm.

chattels   And that's the way that it is from the news that I read out of Iraq on this 1st day of October, 2019.

Xyz   Tebow 10-1-2019 Intel Guru Frank26 ...we're putting everyone on red alert...the lower denoms have been given the approval to be distributed among all the Iraq banks - to the citizens once the rate changes...

chattels   ‘We demand rights’: hundreds protest in Baghdad’s Tahrir Square https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/01102019

chattels   ERBIL, Kurdistan Region – Hundreds of Iraqis protested in Baghdad’s Tahrir Square on Tuesday to express diverse, long-brewing grievances, including, a lack of basic services, rampant corruption, and unequal treatment within the Iraqi Army.

chattels   Last year’s protests dashed the hopes of previous Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi of gaining a second term in office. Current Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi was elected as an independent candidate and does not belong to a particular parliament bloc, making him vulnerable to pressure both public and parliamentary.

Chattels   BAGHDAD / NINA / The Central Bank of Iraq sold more than / 205 / million dollars at an auction selling foreign currency today.

The bank said in a statement: "The total amount sold today, amounted to 205 million and 508 thousand and 950 dollars, with the participation of 30 banks and one company."

https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=790435

chattels   Parliamentarians: The response to the Israeli aggression will be through a complaint to the United Nations

Tuesday 01 October 13:04 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=790428

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IQD CALLS Chat Early Monday 9-30-19

IQD CALLS Chat Early Monday 9-30-19

 Chattels   Khor Mor gas field production to double, surplus gas can be exported: Dana Gas CEO https://www.rudaw.net/english/business/29092019

chattels   “We are not at the moment developing the Chamchamal field. Having said that … we have now confirmed the presence of very significant gas resources in the Chamchamal field as well,” said Allman-Ward.

They are now discussing the start of production at Chamchamal with the Ministry of Natural Resources of the Kurdistan Region through an “early production facility.”

When asked if Chamchamal had the potential to match the reservoir and the potential of Khor Mor, Allman-Ward said “absolutely.”

Dana Gas have been operating in Khor Mor since 2007, and first extracted gas from the field in 2009. The field is believed to house 75 trillion cubic feet of gas.

chattels   Third coalition arises in Iraq to vie for Sunni leadership

Omar Sattar September 30, 2019

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/iraq-sunni-coalition-osama-nujaifi.html#ixzz610lBJg00

chattels   Currently, three main Sunni parties are vying for the Sunni leadership. The Iraqi Forces’ Union is led by parliament Speaker Mohammed al-Halbusi, and the National Axis Alliance is led by Khamis al-Khanjar.

Meanwhile, Osama al-Nujaifi, a former parliament speaker and a former vice president, on Sept. 14 announced the formation of the Salvation and Development Front. The front has the participation of several parliament members, parties and Sunni tribal sheikhs.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/iraq-sunni-coalition-osama-nujaifi.html#ixzz610lZHMfg

chattels   Iraq and the United States stress the importance of continuing efforts to activate the Strategic Framework Agreement

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Chattels   http://cabinet.iq/PageViewer.aspx?id=9

chattels   Strategic Framework Agreement for Friendship and Cooperation between the Republic of Iraq and the United States of America

17/11/2008

chattels   Appears to be a question of full implementation.

Izabelle Joie   We are creators.

Izabelle Joie   We are creators. How did we create this frustrating situation? Generally speaking because of our state of mind and our state of mind has been one of waiting... waiting for the exchange to create in our lives what we had not been able to create yet....It's ok.

Let's change our mindset and visualize that we have the money in our bank account now! NOW! Let's feel the gratitude!We need to create in present time...not in the future cause as we visualize our outcome in the future,it stays in the future.

Zig   Izabelle Joie : :Welcome To the chat room??.....Is this you??.....Google: "Izabelle Joie D. "Life Coach & Energy Healer."

Larrykn   I see Kap made a remark on what I had to say but then he is bring up the 2013 imf art iv. I'm reading the 2019 , I always thought its better to read what is new not old but hey what do I know.

larrykn   xyz here is the lates IMF article iv: https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2019/07/26/pr19301-iraq-imf-executive-board-concludes-2019-article-iv-consultation-with-iraq

larrykn   xyz there are several reasons why I can't see them starting a float at 1160. I can see a float and I believe they will but I believe if they want to bring out coins, and lower notes the rate will have to come out higher or they will run out of currency due to the prices of goods outside of Iraq that will be brought in once they close the Auctions. At what the rate will be I have no Idea but it seems it needs to come out at a much higher rate then 8 cents.

Doug_W   Silver:$17.16

Young_SC   larrykn well they are peg to the American dollar and they quoted many times wanting to be the central hub of the ME while giving the citizens purchasing power.

Young_SC   Iraq is filthy rich to a point that they do not even have a correct number on all their resources

Doug_W   . Young_SC and yet their people live in slums

Young_SC   Doug_W indeed that is why giving them purchasing power will help them aswell

Doug_W   Silver:$17.09

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IQD CALLS Chat Sunday 9-29-19

IQD CALLS Chat Sunday 9-29-19

 chattels   Important thing is happening in #Iraq:

In an unexpected move, PM Adil Abd Al-Mahdi today issued an order to take off all field military roles of General Abdul Wahab al-Saadi the most famous officer in the Iraqi security forces, who is popular & respected by the Iraqi people. https://twitter.com/Mustafa_Habib33/status/1177655613322616834

chattels   Wonder if Mahdi is afraid of a military strongman coup ?

chattels   Erbil, Baghdad could reach deal on oil, budget in October: Oil Minister https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/280920192

chattels   “We are close to reaching an agreement with Erbil regarding oil and the budget,” Ghadhban said on the sidelines of the RCD Security and Economic Forum. “I hope that we will reach an agreement during the month of October.”

chattels   Improvements in the relationship were noted by Jeanine Hennis-Plasschaert, UN Special Envoy to Iraq, in her quarterly briefing to the UN Security Council (UNSC) when she expressed hope that the new governments in both Erbil and Baghdad can resolve their differences now.

“This has created a positive momentum to advance negotiations between Baghdad and Erbil, also demonstrated by the establishment of a High-Level Joint Committee,” she said.

“I cannot deny: the expectations are high, in particular on key files – including Kirkuk, Sinjar, and revenue sharing,” she added.

chattels   “Iraq today is 38 million people,” he continued. “Almost 70% is below the age of 30, and quite a significant part of this population is young, unable to find meaningful jobs. … We have 307,000 graduates in Iraq that are unemployed. To me, this is a priority.

So to be diverted from the real mission of regenerating our economies and providing job opportunities for our young, for reforming our education sector, our health sector, and being diverted away by talking about another war is just madness.”

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/iraq-president-barham-salih-unga-jobs-youth-corruption.html#ixzz60uI3Cro4

chattels   Iraqi president gives priority to job opportunities for youth, calls corruption 'political economy of conflict'    Al-Monitor Staff September 28, 2019

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/iraq-president-barham-salih-unga-jobs-youth-corruption.html#ixzz60uIEzuC4

chattels   For the third week .. the dollar stabilizes in the local stock market

Sunday 29 September 10:05 2019 | Economic https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=789969

chattels   The central bank sells more than $ 249 million at a currency auction

Sunday 29 September 11:34 2019 | Economic https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=789995

chattels   Volume continues to be relatively high. Meaning ?

chattels   Economic anti-corruption campaigns are shy and modest. No action has been taken against the corrupt    https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=789961

chattels   HAVE A FINE DAY ALL.

Larrykn   Good Morning everyone

larrykn   King Salman guard Al-Fagham killed: Saudi police https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44054/King-Salman-guard-Al-Fagham-killed-Saudi-police

larrykn   Security Media Cell: 8 ISIS terrorists killed in Tikrit https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44046/Security-Media-Cell-8-ISIS-terrorists-killed-in-Tikrit

larrykn   It amazes me how everyone gets upset over what someone says, its just his or her option folks, no one will know what they will do till they do it. that is why I say we have to just wait and see. thats all we been doing for years now. take a ;chill pill

Xyz   Fire rips through Saudi’s Haramain train station https://www.arabnews.com/node/1561526/saudi-arabia

larrykn   I was just reading the imf article iv. that kaps is always talking about, I see a lot of things in there that need to get done and what they want to do. one is they want to reduce to zero the money owed to the IOC's (international oil companies) they also want to get rid of the MCP, So here is my ? .

If they get rid of the MCP how can they maintain they buying and selling rates when its at 11 60 . they do the auctions now, using the USD, when that goes away , then what?.

also the big issue I see them having was Isis. That seemed to have put a big wrench into they economy. Seems they are working on that now. but so far I have not seen where they are talking about floating a currency gradually . I see them doing other things gradually but so far and I'm still reading I don't see that about currency.

Xyz   The Ira... parliament adopts a proposal to delete 4 zeros from the national currency

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Falforatnews.com%2Fmodules%2Fnews%2Farticle.php%3Fstoryid%3D213584&sandbox=1

The Ira... Islamic Shura Council has approved a draft law to reform the monetary and banking system, including the deletion of four zeros from the national currency.

According to Iranian websites, the adoption of the draft law of the monetary and banking system came through the session of parliament on Sunday afternoon, with the approval of 124 deputies, 76 opposition and 3 abstentions.

Xyz   Chinese ships besieged US aircraft carrier "Ronald Reagan" https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Falforatnews.com%2Fmodules%2Fnews%2Farticle.php%3Fstoryid%3D213575&sandbox=1

Andrewetoldthem    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ7gv0JXl   Bo incase your miss the president of iraq GENERAL ASSEMBLY DEBATE AT THE UN here it again when that education ministry does get sworn in for real this coming up..... its over over over the president promise all the foreign leaders the stability and the revalued of their country to hopefully happen this year to move to the next step all country waiting on that to happen it aint just us

Andrewetoldthem   they the face of the GCR thats why things being putting into place for that upcoming like the change of the IMF....... the green......

xyz_  kaperoni,. OH YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND ABOUT RV? so - you now say that when you believed you were right, you were dead wrong.. but you were 100% convinced at the time. What's that tell people Kap?

That even tho you think you are 100% right on something, the next day you might change your mind and insist you were 100% wrong?

xyz   kap are you as convinced there is no RV as you were that there IS an RV 8 years ago?

xyz   Kaperoni in 2012 .... no kidding

xyz   5-31-2012 Newshound Guru Kaperoni Rather than do it all at once and now, they will do it in phases. Rate first at 1 to 1, then hope they have the investment to do the rest.

That serves a lot of purposes and again this is speculation on my part, but doing this stimulates investment and will get them into the WTO, start helping with poverty and tariffs etc. IMO the rate move will happen soon. ["continued in post 3...stay tuned"]    http://dinaresgurus.blogspot.com/2012_05_31_archive.html

xyz   Just like imf archive

Kaperoni   Xyz, 2012 was a pretty long time ago. We all have to learn and at that time I thought it was possible. But since then my views have changed. Especially when more information came out.

Kaperoni   This is for Larry. Its the 2013 IMF Article IV that talks about floating the dinar. These are done every year. Some better than others...

Kaperoni   “14. The de facto fixed exchange rate has served Iraq well. The authorities agreed that a stable nominal exchange rate provides a valuable anchor for inflation expectations in an uncertain environment, and intend to continue implementing this policy for the foreseeable future.

In the medium term, staff encouraged the authorities to consider creating the conditions which would make possible a move to a more flexible exchange rate policy.

Such flexibility could allow a predictable and gradual appreciation of the nominal exchange rate, triggered by strong oil revenues and the Balassa-Samuelson effect, to accommodate a possible real exchange rate appreciation while keeping domestic inflation low.”

Kaperoni   Later...

Xyz   WoW kaperoni admitted that z is not crazy

xyz   Kaperoni what was note count back 2012? Z has a record but wonna hear your number based on your research

xyz   I shall wait for your answer kaperoni

Lenny   Good Evening Folks, I have a question regarding the background security checks required @ the redemption center when the green light is lit?

I have a friend who has invested in Dinar & Zim Bonds, but she is actively on Parole for a crime committed years ago? Will my friend be allowed to exchange her currency while on parole? What advice can I give her? Thanks

Tebow   Lenny who provide you with that info

Tebow   Lenny there are no background security checks for currency exchange

Lenny   @ Tebow I received info that when we do go in to exchange, their will be a security background check. Is that true?

Wilder   If she has an account at a bank that handles foreign currency I wouldnt think there would be a problem. Unless hwr accounts were frozen.

xyz   Lenny z doesn't believe in GCR/nesara/redemption center/Reno. Its guru made up crap imho I travel international a lot and usual exchange at the airport. Sometimes at the bank. Z believe that this will be a transaction. Bought some iqd from Citibank a couple of years ago. I believe you could walk in with you iqd and walk ou with ysd. ZIM is for GCR believer and am not one of them.

Wilder   xyz I agree.

Lenny   @Wilder Ok. She does have active accounts at her bank. I just wanted to see if it was hogwash or not about her exchanging.

xyz   Lenny I have never gone through background in order to exchange currency. It maybe another guru made up crap

Wilder   xyz what is your thinking as to the timing of this ever happening?

xyz   Still waiting for my answers kaperoni

Wilder   Kaperoni you know Kap. Your attitude is one of a punk. You don't have to come i to this place already knowing your going to get questioned on your theories.

Kaperoni   Wilder I don't come here with theories. I come here with facts. I research. I am not a guru, just a fact finder. Believe what you want, but the facts don't lie.

Wilder   I have no problem with that. Someday one will be right and the other wrong. Hopefully all these years of this will not have been in vain. False hope.

Wilder   @Kaperoni this has probably been asked. To do a float they would have to issue a new currency.

Wilder   And if tbey should float. I think the heavy investors would load up on the new currency which would put them in the same situation.

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IQD CALLS Members & Kaperoni Chat 9-28-19

IQD CALLS Chat With Kaperoni 9-28-19

Very Late Saturday Night

Crevan   Okay, I see Zig hoping lurkers like myself join in the chat so I will do that right now. I've only been following this RV stuff for about 2 months now. I was told about it from a family member of mine who has been following it loosely since 2015.

They gave me an envelope with currency in it and said that what we are all waiting for will happen 'soon'. Out of curiosity I've asked people about the possibility of things like this happening and a lot of the time it's the answer of "that's how the rich get richer".

But here's the thing, investing 1mil into a currency that increases by $0.05 is going to get you quite a lot, in our eyes of course. Now, it does make sense that with current events, a RV in the scale of IQD, Zim, dong that we are waiting for will obviously be quite the economic boost for a large number of people, let alone, countries...but that pulls away power from those who are already at the top, right?

Wouldn't it make more sense for them to find a long and drawn out way to keep power other than a 'quick' fix? I'm not the most informed person on political events of course and that's just my common sense on what I know though. Any insight for me from those who have been following for years?

xyz   Crevan you are definitely in the right place

xyz   Crevan unfortunately most active peeps are asleep

Crevan   xyz Well, good thing the #s are coming out this Sunday, much like two Sundays ago, and last month. And the month before that. Haha. Although, it would be a nice payday if it were to happen.

Kaperoni   Crevan there can never be a significant RV of the Iraqi dinar because there's too much currency in circulation. The CBI themselves have stated in excess of 42 trillion that's three times the world's money supply. It simply cannot happen Iraq could never afford such

xyz   Crevan we all would EXCEPT gurus Sam, sandyf and saint kaperoni (who did a flotation dissertation for his ...)

Kaperoni   There's only two options on the table. Parliament has talked about doing a LOP which is a neutral event and you make no money. But if it goes up after the lap you might double your investment.

Kaperoni    Or the CBI could follow the directive from the IMF, and Float the currency. Which would allow for a gradual appreciation over several months or even years. In doing so allowing them to reduce the currency in circulation at the same time.

Kaperoni   But I assure you they'll never be a significant RV. It's just not possible

xyz   Kaperoni I assure you there will be a significant RV. It's just very possible.

Kaperoni   If you're serious about learning about your investment I would start with reading the IMF Article IV Consultations over the last several years with Iraq these are professional documents at imf.org that discuss the banking system and are done with every country in the world every year by the IMF

Kaperoni   Xyz..its not possible. But since you believe that it is why don't you prove it why don't you show us a way that that could occur. LOL

xyz   Kaperoni imf is a very small piece of the pie --- it doesn't own or control cbi

xyz   Kaperoni same way as the LOP you smartly claim

Kaperon   iOf course it does in 2015 they became the trustee of the CBI. That means they have control over the CBI. And we have seen that they have had total control over the reforms that have occurred over the last 3 years

Kaperoni   Not to mention the CBI signs standby agreements with the IMF to guarantee that progress is made as dictated by the IMF and World Bank

xyz   Kaperoni you truly believe that cbi is an affiliate of IMF? You kidding me!

Kaperoni   I don't have to believe it it's in writing go back and look in December of 2015 when the CBI sign the agreement to give trusteeship to the IMF

xyz   Kaperoni guarantee doesn't mean control

Kaperoni   And if you read any significant progress over the last three years you will see that they are following the directives of the IMF ever since that trusteeship was granted

xyz   Kaperoni I have read all imf documents but am not an imf cult member

Kaperoni   It's not hard to see all you need to do is look at what the IMF states that CBI needs to do... And then go read the CBI documents the last three years and you will see that they are clearly doing what is asked of them it doesn't take a real intelligent person to come to the same conclusion

xyz   Kaperoni have you ever ask yourself if you could be very very wrong. Don't want you to get depress to a point of suicidal

Kaperoni   But in any event it boils down to a very simple problem. There's an excessive 42 trillion IQD and circulation many reports are even higher and that is a number that is so high that they could never significantly RV and that's all anyone needs to know to realize that the whole concept of an RV is nonsense Guru hype

xyz   Kaperoni how much of that 42 trillion is in the banks?

Kaperoni   None of it the article I posted last week says that is outside the banking system meaning it's under mattresses, in homes Etc. It's not in Banks which means the CBI is accountable for it

xyz   Kaperoni then how much is banks?

Crevan   So really it just comes down to economic balance. And a significant RV would cause that balance to collapse. That's what I'm getting from Kap.

KaperoniI don't have that number right now but it doesn't matter the only number that's important is the number I'm telling you now in excess of 42 trillion

xyz   Kaperoni it does matter cause it goes to the heart of your theory

Kaperoni   Crevan any basic economic principles would tell you you are correct

xyz   Kaperoni 42 trillion printed ---- go check your source

Kaperoni   XYZ again all you need to do is prove how they can significantly RV the currency and I will believe you. But you have a huge hurdle to overcome and that hurdle is in excess of 42 trillion dinar

xyz   Kaperoni stop diverging the discussion please ....

xyz   Kaperoni am a number kinda dinarian ... let work the math

Kaperoni   The burden is on you because you're the believer of an RV. So if you believe that it is possible you must prove your theory. So go work on it and come back with a realistic Theory and I will then consider it

xyz   Kaperoni on you because your premise doesn't hold water

Kaperoni   I don't want to work any math from you. The CBI has released the numbers. The IMF has confirm those numbers. An independent auditors I've confirmed those numbers I don't think all of those agencies are lying especially when they're independently audited

xyz   Kaperoni you don't even know what percentage is in the cbi, banks, under the mattress, etc and yet you claim that you are the smartest guru saint

xyz   Its a cult-like that questions are NOT allowed

xyz   Believe me or else .... go read imf encyclopedia

xyz   Go figure

29 Sep 19, 02:18 AM Kaperoni   My premise is not made up it's the exact words from the IMF themselves. All you need to do is go read the Article IV Consultation from 2013 when the IMF specifically gave the directive to the CBI to prepare the conditions to allow the currency to begin to appreciate gradually.

Those are there words or similar they are talking about a float. Those are not my words, they're not made up it is the exact terminology the IMF used in the Article IV Consultation so believe what you want but I like to believe in facts.

Kaperoni     If it's too complicated for you to research this investment then you probably should not be in the investment because anybody who spends money on an investment should want to understand what it's real possibilities are.

And not believe some gurus who were dishwashers for a living or construction workers or professional con men that steal money from others and have been convicted felons in jail

xyz   Kaperoni Its 100% made up premise. You ignore facts cause you wonna be right so bad ---- aka an egomaniac guru

Kaperoni   LOL you don't know what you're talkin about. I don't have any theories or premises I simply provide the facts as they come in print from professional organizations if you don't want to accept those then that's your problem but I have spent the last eight to 10 years researching this and have found factual information and have simply presented it to the dinar community and you can do what you want with that information

xyz   Kaperoni you can't be Z financial adviser - still to imf crap and you will be proven wrong .. will get an F

Kaperoni   Well you can keep dreaming but it's not physically possible with 42 trillion or more than are in circulation outside the banks that's three times the world's money supply LOL

xyz   Kaperoni and I spent the last 8yrs researching ... you got stuck in the wrong hole

xyz   Kaperoni indeed you are right for the first time. Z is a dreamer

Kaperoni   Well that's all I got for the night I got things to do. XYZ good luck to you and your mythical RV. Hopefully the rest of the dinar Community will want to research and find out the truth.

But if you want to hang on to that and sit in a chatroom believing that some overnight event is going to make you rich you're dreaming but you have every right to dream so have at it

Kaperoni   Goodnight

xyz    Kaperoni RV is nothing more than a float in a very short period of time ... your theory it debunked by learned forks.

xyz   Kaperoni sleep tight and hope you get a wise dream and .... admit you have been wrong. Z shall be praying for ya buddy. We luv ya.

Crevan   I'm glad I can say I put no money into this investment and was just given currency. So I can be completely in the grey with it. I can see how Iraq can increase the value of their currency by backing it with a valuable resource like oil.

But how would that fair with the world's economy? If they back their currency with the gold standard and everyone else does it as well, that would also make economy shaky.

I mean, this is going off very little research from my end of course, but the different Nations are just different businesses relying on eachother to keep afloat. Unless they just make the RV happen and absolutely tear Iraq apart to distribute the currency to the world.

Then inflation catches up and balances out. And before it balances would be the time to make a profit. I don't know, I'm no economics major. Haha

xyz   Crevan good night

Crevan   xyz Debates make it interesting! Haha. Goodnight!

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