IQD Calls Chat Friday Night 9-6-19

IQD Calls Chat Friday Night   9-6-19

xyz   Pompeo: "Century deal" may be announced within weeks

http://alforatnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=210275

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said on Friday he believed the Trump administration would reveal in the coming weeks details of the long-delayed peace plan between the Palestinians and Israel.

Asked after a speech at the University of Kansas, Pompeo said: "I think we will announce our vision in the coming weeks."

White House envoy Jason Greenblatt said last week the United States would not reveal the political part of the plan ahead of Israel's September 17 elections.

Sparky   ... anyone familiar, or have glanced at 'The future of Iraq Project"...,. besides Whitelions.?

Sparky   *Project of

Sparky   ...last pages come down to banking...

Sparky   ...hope Vic1, Debbie, Diana, Mike, or LJ comes in this room to clarify...

Sparky.   ..or, Whitelions...

Baxter   is it good or bad news

Sparky   Baxter ...good...

Baxter   good to hear.. thx

Sparky   ... remember an article out of CBI..."the appearance of "...stating different denoms... including 1, 2 coins...and less dinar denoms, also fil categories.....amoung others...

Sparky   ... including 25 dinar... paper...

Baxter   Im ready anytime Spanky.....

Baxter   Let me guess... they are going to RV on 9-11.. again this year.... comes up every year..

Baxter   9-6-2019 Newshound/Intel Guru Mnt Goat Article: "IRAQ HAS DECIDED TO APPROVE THE RATING AGENCIES THAT HAVE THE CRITERIA ECAI" Quote: "The Board of Directors of the Central Bank of Iraq has decided to approve the rating agencies that have the criteria ...(ECAI) emanating from the decisions of Basel, to classify the financial institutions in Iraq, namely: Standard & Poor; Moody's; Fitch Ratings; Capital Intelligence" ...this is a WOW! article and tells so much about how they now view their banking system. Folks they are about to compete with other international currencies on the open global trading platforms. Why else would they be so concerned about their ratings from these four agencies? How many times have they told us already this is the plan?..

Sparky   ...S&P...b-..., nothing investment wants...risky business... and, make sure, you have 20% cash, on the down low...

Young_SC   Sparky answer the question i asked Baxter

 Sparky   ...yeah, but let's pop out at 3 bucks...the world are suckers... we got the oil...

Young_SC   Sparky ahh so thats how you think it works ehh

Sparky   Young_SC ...and, what question is that ?

Young_SC   Sparky scroll up and you will see

Sparky   Young_SC ... realize, trillions, to billions...

Sparky   ... zeros burnt up by the Sun...?

Dave   Sparky still just stuck on note count now.....?

Sparky   Dave ... monetary strategy goes into effect soon...time will tell...

Dave   still just stuck on note count now.....?

Sparky   Dave ...yup...

Dave   strategy?

Sparky   Dave ...delete the zeros... from where?

Dave   Sparky oops forgot CBI uses all the money they take in to pay all govt employee with enevelopes stuffed with cash

Dave   So Much for those Qi cards.......

Sparky   Dave ...but, how do they manage cash flow ?

Young_SC   Sparky monetary policy changed during leglaslative term for the next term as stated per GOI. Statement in article that came out in March

Young_SC   Remember or no?

Sparky   Young_SC ...paying in electronic money ?

Young_SC   Sparky ;ice-cream;

Dave   Cash/Dinar in CBI belongs to CBI........If they wish to burn it ....thats fine too

Young_SC   Follow the source or no

Young_SC   Kap outweighs the GOI/CBI?

Dave   Young_SC YOU got It!

Sparky   Young_SC ... I didn't realize a difference...

Dave   Sparky IMF runs CBI>>>>Forgot....lol

Young_SC   Dave lol

xyz   Dave per senior guru kaperoni

Sparky   Dave ... now, your start in to catch up...

Dave   AMEN

Zig   Kaperoni Tweets https://www.iqdcalls.com/kaperoni.html

Sparky   Young_SC ...does PM Abadi ring a bell ?

Sparky   Young_SC ...Abadi knows the deal...

Sparky   Young_SC ...any clue who Mohammed Seleh is ?

Sparky   ...hint, I already told...

Sparky   Young_SC ...as I thought, you know no history...

Young_SC   Sparky nope i dont know Saleh, Abadi, Sadr, Allak, Shabbi. I do not know anyone whatsoever young fellow so please enlighten me

Young_SC   Sparky Sparky could you please enlighten me about Saleh since i have no clue

  Young_SC   And Abadi     And while you are at it tell me about Sadr   Alak    Shabbi   Etc etc

 Young_SC   Oh and the current PM as well

Sparky   Young_SC Mohamed Saleh, was vice Governor of the CBI under Shabbibi..., After Shan's was shut out of town,...in comes Turkey...as CBI governor... Mohamed Seleh went to work with Abadi, (former head of Finance minister s ), , as his financial consultant...

Sparky   ...(Turki did sign a series of 25 k notes, some that I own )...

Sparky   ...Both, Turki and Alak were appointed by former PM Maliki...

Sparky   Young_SC you with me so far ?   ... didn't think so...

Xyz   IMF expert guru .... 9-6-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni If you go back and look at the IMF Article IV Consultation from this year that came out in June, the IMF encouraged the CBI to begin more training programs. We are now seeing an abundance these types of training or seminars throughout Iraq.

Xyz   GOP Trump Challengers Cry Foul As States Move To Cancel 2020 Primaries, Caucuses https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-06/gop-trump-challengers-cry-foul-states-move-cancel-2020-primaries-caucuses

xyz   BUILD THE WALL ...

Between Kuwait and Iraq: the solution to the separation wall? https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=ar&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.al-akhbar.com%2FIraq%2F276020%2F0&sandbox=1

Xyz   THERE GOES Z RV per gurus ....

Iraqi parliamentarian to Kuwait: You are a small country and you can not enter a conflict with us LINK

xyz   Iraq signs a memorandum with the Arab League to forgive the debt of the support funds by 75% http://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=785684

xyz   Iraq protests: Thousands of graduates demand jobs from government

Government says not enough done to tackle Iraq's jobless rate and investment climate affected by decades of war.   by Charles Stratford

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/iraq-protests-thousands-graduates-demand-jobs-government-190905103347165.html

Thousands of university graduates in oil-rich Iraq are protesting outside government ministries in Baghdad, demanding jobs.

Unemployment for young adults stands at 22 percent and the government admits it has not planned for the large numbers of students coming into the job market every year.

Years of conflict have hollowed out the country's economy.

Al Jazeera's Charles Stratford reports from Baghdad.

Sparky   ...very interesting...

Sparky   ...absorb the new graduats into the government, for no show jobs,...or...let the entrpenuers abound...into Iraqs new order...

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IQD Calls Chat Early Friday 9-6-19

IQD Calls Chat Early Friday  9-6-19

Loren   Have you noticed Sadar's tweak this morning, "end of the Iraqi government"?

Baxter   no i didnt   I hear he has pancreatic cancer..

Doug_W   I saw it Loren    wonder what that means tho?

Loren   I honestly believe after watching this after all of these years, that the cleric is and has always used poverty to control the citizens. I have seen this over and over. You also see the sane thing in Iran.

I have known Iranians over the years and they say that the cleric controls them and stops any progress in joining the rest of the world's ecomy. I believe that this what we are seeing in Iraq right now.

Baxter   supposedly Sadr wants this money thing to happen...

Loren   I have not read that, that sounds very encouraging!

Baxter   yes... that has been going on for quite a while... he is supposedly "for the people"

Loren   How can introducing instability in the gov encourage monetary reform?

Baxter   not a clue.... sorry..

Loren   Everything I have been told by Iraqi's & Iranians says, that the cleric is interested in maintaining their position of power and not much more than that.

Loren   The average age of Iraqi's is around 35, it is also a majority of young people in Iran. They are ready to join the 21st century, the cleric stands in the way of that.

Loren   I have been all over Iraq, we think of the desert as what we see in AZ and N.M. this not the case. Everything is dry and dead, even getting clean drinking water can be a major problem.

Loren   The difference between Kuwait and Iraq is startling. While there in the rural areas they where selling fuel out of 5 gallon cans side of the road, food the same way. This why they are trying to encourage foreign investment to come in.

Loren   Think about Sadam did, he diverted the river from Southern Iraq so that it would go around his Palace. Leaving hundreds of miles of irrigation systems dry and useless.

I have talked Kuwaiti farmers that say if Iraq starts farming again that they would not be to compete with them. Iraq has many sources of income, the touristy is one of them You would not believe biblical history that is there, that the articlogists can't wait to get access to.

A example of what I am talking about is Egypt, their major source income is tourism. So when I hear that Iraq can not sustain a RV, I say that they can not afford not to.

xyz   ZIM UPDATE ....  Robert Mugabe, Zimbabwe's strongman ex-president, dies aged 95 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-49604152

Loren   Than again the Iraqi's that I knew, are waiting in excitement to join us in 21st century. It is the cleric that is keeping them out. The power that cleric has in that part of world is astounding.

You should hear the call to prayer that takes place everyday that can even be heard when you are inside. Believe me you do not even want to hear how women are treated over there.

I could tell you horror stories that would keep you up at night.. I have never been able to figure out why any woman would want to go over there and become part of that?

Young_SC   Zig people disagree with kap because the float could take a year or a few years just to reach a dollar

Young_SC   Zig So tell me how is that logical for its citizens and the country itself???

Young_SC   Thats why CBI stated no float they prefer fix rate

Zig   Young_SC : Don't ask me, I know nothing.....LOL

Young_SC   And if they ever did float it would start from a dollar and go upwards to that set rate

Dave   Young_SC who said that?

Zig   I just loiter :na; here causing trouble....

Tebow  Young_SC that's what I believe

Young_SC   Zig cue in the PURCHASING POWER for its citizens as IRAQ HAD STATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN

Tebow   How can Iraq do any economic planning against other currencies/trading/import goods when you don't know what the rate will be in the near future.

Dave   Tebow million dollart question....\

Tebow   Dave What I won? LOL

Dave   Tebow Hope so?

xyz   Zig

Dave   Tebow DID SUGGEST to be competitive with other currencies

Dave   .00086 not to competitive

Tebow   Yes and Iraq did come out and say they would be one of the strongest currencies in the ME

Tebow   And Iraq is going the investors determine what the rate to their currency is according to Kap

Dave   Tebow but CBI suggested that was NOT to be....

Whitelions   You all know cr** baises his belief that the imf made iraq sign a contract saying they would float BUT THEY CAN'T DO THAT BY INTERNATIONAL BANKING LAWS they can only hammer out how repayments re made

Dave   Whitelions Sparky AWAITING CLEARANCE FOR TAKE OFF

Whitelions   Dave Kap said that the imf told iraq they would loan them money only if they floated their currency when they rved .but thet cant tell a country how to handle their money they can only recommend and then reach repayment agreements

Sparky   ...what's this stuff about forgiveness of 75% of Iraqi debt to Arab s...?

Dave   Whitelions LET ME FIND THE FABREZE

Whitelions   Sparky thats a very good thing because if iraq had to pay everything they owe they may never rv but the arib states are betting they will make 10 fold there money back if they forgive the debt

Sparky   ... also don't understand AMF...ISX...Nasdaq article...

Sparky   Whitelions ah, ok... thanks...that makes sense...

Dave   Sparky I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT BALSAMIC SAMMUELLESON EFFECT EITHER

Whitelions   And they want better working relationships for trade both in and out

Dave   Whitelions THAT MAKES RTOO MUCH SENSE?

Sparky   Whitelions ...start at clean slate?

Whitelions   Abadi said they want to be the center and the peace keepers of the me and thats what he has worked for but most cant see past malki to trust hi

Whitelions   Sparky yes

Whitelions   Him

Dave   JUST wonder where all that cash is from that Kuwaiti donor conference

Sparky Whitelions ...things certainly appear more, secure and stable these days also... with government almost fully seated...

Dave   Sparky 10 yrs of almost for me

Sparky   Dave ... allocated yet ?

Whitelions   In the bank dont worry Dave. They have that under controal the world watches

Dave   Sparky look at Mosul

Whitelions   Sparky yes we are at the end of this road now we have to be ready to make the most of what it will give us

Dave   Whitelions dead end coming up?

Sparky   Dave ...pledged 80 billion at the conference... need twice that much for entire country rebuild...

Dave   Sparky look at rthe UAE out of nothing

Sparky   Whitelions thanks...chat later...

Tebow   Whitelions what to you believe might be a rate?

Sparky   Whitelions ... I'll have to wait at least a week, to get my act together...

Dave   definitely worth more than the costs to mint new currency in the form of LDs Tebow

Tebow   Dave yes

Dave   that would be the starting point then?

Sparky   Dave ...any thoughts on actual LD'... denominations ?

Dave   Sparky just opinion

Dave   less 3 zeros

Dave   and coins

Sparky   Dave ... that's ok, throw it out there...most of my stuff is opinion...

Dave   derived from kap

Tebow   Sparky it's all opinion

Sparky   Dave ...ah...fils... nice...!

Dave   CBI's opinion too?

Dave   Sparky like coins

Dave   not the 1000 or 10000 dinar coins so much

SparkyTebow ... bong is usually correct...

Sparky   Tebow 1:1 would be lovely...

Sparky   ... does seem everyone is playing nice with Iraq... must be a good reason...

Sparky   ... except Israel dosn't appreciate Iran moving their WMD into Iraq... to mess with them...

Young_SC   Sparky i already stated to you it would be 1 to 1 start but you laughed at me when i stated that to you

Sparky   Young_SC no, I never laugh at possibility...

Portmagaland   Good morning all, when this pops, I'm moving to Hawaii and the f out of Oregon.

Sparky   Young_SC ... or, even probability...

Young_SC   Sparky That so called possibilty is what IRAQ has told us many times

Young_SC   Im going by factual info

Young_SC   Not OPINIONS

Sparky   Portmagaland hey, enjoying your vacation...good man

Portmagaland   Sparky Yep, I know you have you eye on Portugal, when it pops and Portugal is nice, but you just cant beat this weather.

Sparky   Young_SC ... so, your sure, it's coming out at 1:1 ?

Portmagaland   My old bones love it and I just float in the water on my back, dont even need to swim.

Sparky   Portmagaland ...haha, you said "float'... jk...

Portmagaland   I dont want to cash out on Oregon, they'll take more than their share, so I've got to find a good state to cash out in. Washington has no state income tax, I could go across the river into Vancouver, Washington.

Dave   in consideration of minting costs alone a dime sounds very reasonable place to start

Portmagaland   Sparky Iraq couldn't float my fat a** if they tried

6 Sep 19, 01:16 PM Sparky   Portmagaland ...yes, the tax man will be the next adversary when this happens...

Portmagaland   Loving this 1 to 1 talk people, keep it up.

Dave   Portmagaland 100,000% ROI

Doug_W   Portmagaland U will need a residence other than oregon to NOT pay teh taxes

6 Sep 19, 01:18 PM Sparky   Dave ...ha, we finally agree on something, maybe Zig will re instate our program...

Dave   Sparky Na...I am his NEMISIS now?

Dave   low ratings....

Sparky   Dave ... I'll settle for 1000. %, roi...

xyz   Pompeo: "Century deal" may be announced within weeks

http://alforatnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=210275

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said on Friday he believed the Trump administration would reveal in the coming weeks details of the long-delayed peace plan between the Palestinians and Israel.

Asked after a speech at the University of Kansas, Pompeo said: "I think we will announce our vision in the coming weeks."

White House envoy Jason Greenblatt said last week the United States would not reveal the political part of the plan ahead of Israel's September 17 elections.

Portmagaland   Sparky I second that

Dave   Sparky will cost more to m int....pay attention!

Sparky   Dave ...oh well, we had a good run...

Doug_Wxyz "in the coming weeks" where have we heard that b4?

Dave   next session......

Dave   Sparky you ought to go check out actual minting costs for currency particularly for coins

Dave   then consider fils......

Sparky   Dave ...then, "shelf" life...

Sparky   Dave ...found a 1944 penny the other day...

Dave   notes still cost 4-5 cents each .....coins double that

Dave   Sparky find 1894 Barber s dime for me please

Dave   then i will go away>>>>>>>

Sparky   Dave ...when I see articles about fils...1000ths of a Dinar, I'll get excited...

Sparky   Dave ...funny you mention that, I have been finding dimes for decades...still wondering why...

Dave   missing my point......

Dave   CBI aint going to mint coins that would be worth less than scrap metal

Sparky   Dave ... again, in what denominations ?

Dave   not 25K coins......

Doug_W   xyz all over Iraq's plans will be in the coming weeks

Dave   no purpose in deleting 3 zeros then

Sparky   Dave ... good point...touche...

Zig   Okay....sent "Vic" of Gatekeepers an email.....asked him to either drop by or to send me something to post here if he so desires......

Young_SC   Sparky brother what does purchasing power sound like to you man lol

Young_SC   Its not what i say its what they say

Dave   Young_SC scrap metal worth more i suppose

Sparky   Zig ...cool... always like Vic1...and, think he may have Iranian descent...and speaks Farsi... anyhow, cool dude, and very positive and informative in our journey...

Young_SC   You are so quick to listen to opinions but not what Iraq/CBI says

Young_SC   People asking Guru Jeff if a deal between China and US in Trade is the delay of the RV

 Portmagaland   X22 Spotlight posted an interview with Bix Weir this morning and Bix is a silver/crypto guy, not into dinar at all. However, Bix is into the whole system crashing globally and a lot of what he talks about in the interview, is tied into our thing here.

Bix too, is saying watch out for 9/11 next week like some in the Dinar world have suggested. It's just cool to see sources from different financial worlds/theories touching on common denominators: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qjbJ4N01GJE

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IQD Calls Chat Thursday Night 9-5-19

IQD Calls Chat Thursday Night   9-5-19

Xyz   Sadr announces the end of the Iraqi government https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.alsumaria.tv%2Fnews%2F-%2F317554%2F0%20&sandbox=1

Matt   Market Summary > Dow Jones Industrial Average

INDEXDJX: .DJI   26,728.15 +372.68 (1.41%)^  Sep 5, 5:01 PM EDT

Matt   Silver Price per Ounce $19.38 €17.67

Matt   Gold: $1,522.20    Bitcoin $10,574.15     Ethereum $174.88    Litecoin $65.50

Baxter   ANYONE KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE:    9-5-2019 Newshound Guru MilitiaMan The AMF is complete in launching a special Index database for Iraqi Securities. They have it ready, as they calculated the index as being from 07/31/2019...

They showcased the ISX with the NASDAQ months ago, yet to see a live connection and today we see the AMF having completed the calculation and the database for the financial markets with Iraq.

The NASDAQ has rules and for stocks (securities) to trade on the platform need to be north of $2.00 USD in value and that requires when under $4.00 being standard. So, imo they cannot do it at any rate.. jmtc. When they go live we will be happy campers...

Foxmulder   Baxter Hey BAX it would be all over like wildfire ! I recall something about the stock market. Months ago ..

Baxter   so you dont think its true?  I havent a clue

Baxter   I am wondering about this: The NASDAQ has rules and for stocks (securities) to trade on the platform need to be north of $2.00 USD in value and that requires when under $4.00 being standard. So, imo they cannot do it at any rate.. jmtc. When they go live we will be happy campers...

foxmulder   Baxter what's AMF . (AMF) (English: "Financial Markets Regulator") is the stock market regulator in France. The AMF is an independent public body that is responsible for safeguarding investments in financial instruments and in all other savings and investment as well as maintaining orderly financial markets.

Matt   Market Summary > Nasdaq Composite

INDEXNASDAQ: .IXIC   8,116.83 +139.95 (1.75%)^   Sep 5, 5:15 PM EDT ·

Baxter   well what would France have to do with it?

foxmulder   Baxter maybe in the early AM I'll take a look on the Nasdaq

Baxter   Ok...

Zig   Baxter : Wait until other Gurus see that.....lol.....frenzy time.....

foxmulder   Baxter well that's what the AMF is

Baxter   Fox.. I know..but what would France have to do with Iraq

Wilder    Full text: Bin Laden's 'letter to America' https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver

Young_SC   Baxter Arab Monetary Fund launches a special index for the Iraqi Stock Exchange

Young_SC   LINK

Young_SC   Baxter Yes it is true

  Dave   Really hope Zig invites Beny.......that would be FUN!

Zig   Dave : :hamer h

Dave   Zig headache .......yes you mentioned something to that effect

Dave   Bring Em!   BENY is hilarious.....

Young_SC   Zig did you read what i posted zig?

Young_SC   Iraq reveals reserves of foreign currency and excludes the float of the dinar

 Tuesday, December 26, 2017

Young_SC  LINK

Wilder   Tuesday, that the bank's reserves of hard currency amounted to 48 billion dollars, noting that Iraq will not resort to float currency

Dave   Wilder thought it was more?

Wilder   From his post just now Young_SC

Dave   Unless they paid Kuwait out

Zig   Interesting but that article is almost 2 years old.....

Dave   Zig wow paying attention now......

Zig   I really don't care what they do....as long as it is something.....

Wilder   Yep. I just seen that. 2017

Dave   no float works for me

Zig   Anything works for me.....

Dave   obviously.....invite Beny yet?

Wilder   Send that to Kap

Zig   Kap reads this chat....he will comment if he wishes.....

Wilder   Its all good. Kaps a good guy

 Dave   Wilder ever listen to Beny?

Dave   Matt would not waste time trying to figure out who

Wilder   No. Never heard of him

ilder   Matt Kaperoni . something like that

Wilder   Dave who is Benny

Wilder   Beny

Wilder   Qq Dave ???

Dave    Wilder Qi cards?

Dave   Wilder Oh Guru......No.....

Wilder   Beny

Dave   Wilder Made me laugh out load

sandyf   @Chattels We have participated in a great adventure. Will we experience awe and mystery or disappointment in the outcome ?  After 15 years I just want to live long enough to see an outcome.

sandyf   @xyz Kaperoni never mind ... I understand you hypothesis but you have never explain the time factor.

Ssandyf   If the IQD was to float from the current value and appreciate at 10 percent per month, in 2 years the rate would be about 100/USD, at 3 percent per month the rate would be about 600/USD.

No economy could withstand those levels for any length of time, I think the largest recorded was China at 7% in a year. Normal appreciation is in fractions of a percent.

Dave   sandyf Pip Pip........

Young_SC   Wilder Zig Yes as i stated over and over again 2 years ago the CBI stated no float

Young_SC   And they stated the reason why a float does them no good

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IQD Calls Chat Early Thursday 9-5-19

IQD Calls Chat Early Thursday  9-5-19

Larrykn   Central Bank to join official monetary and financial policy forum

Central Bank of Iraq   Banks   Economy News – Baghdad   On Thursday, the Central Bank announced that it is taking steps to join the Official Forum of Monetary and Financial Institutions (OMFIF), an independent global think tank for central banks, pension funds and financial institutions with $36.2 trillion in investment assets.

"Membership in this forum provides insight into key investment topics with two integrated channels in analysis and meetings, through high-level practical exchanges and content, as well as participation in meetings conducted in cooperation with The International Monetary Fund, the Bank of England and the German Central Bank."

"The accession process benefits from capacity-building opportunities for mid-level and senior staff, with OMFIF developing dedicated member projects in London, Singapore, Washington and other global financial centres," he said.

larrykn   http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17666

madness   all this action cbi is doing yet no action for us, im hopeful for oct. 1st

larrykn   Al-Rafidain announces the authorized granting of advances electronically to employees and retirees

Economy News – Baghdad   Al-Rafidain Bank announced Thursday that its branches are the only ones that grant advances to employees and retirees.

"The granting of advances to retirees and civil servants of the home country is through its branches, which are the only authorized entity for grants," the bank's information office said in a statement seen by Economy News.

The bank warned against "dealing with any entity that claims to give advances in return for certain amounts and is not responsible for any entity that lends the employee or retiree."

He called on the bank to "not believe the rumors and false news promoted by some social networking sites regarding the granting of advances to a particular category and the approval of the bank's social networking sites to see the bank's activities and news regarding the release of advances and loans". http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17671  

madness   this is getting really shaky, it all comes down to the zeros on the currency

larrykn   Rafidain explains the mechanism of granting loans of 100 million for the purchase of housing units

Economy News _ Baghdad  Rafidain Bank on Sunday announced a 100-million-dollar loan mechanism for housing purchases.

"A 100-million-dinar loan, which is granted at a maximum limit to employees to purchase housing units in investment projects, should cover 50 percent of the employee's total salary and monthly interest," the bank said in a statement.

"These loans have been set by the most important conditions for the employee to be permanent owners and continue to serve with a letter of support from his department, preferably from those whose salary has been settled with the bank, in addition to not having received a residential loan from any bank," he  said.

100 million loan will be for vertical or horizontal residential investment projects," he  said. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17625   

  larrykn   Central Bank establishes banking relationship with RAMP program

Economy News _ Baghdad

The Central Bank of Iraq announced Tuesday that it is continuing to establish a banking relationship with the World Bank's Ramp Reserve Management Advisory Program, indicating that the relationship included investing in its bonds.

"The relationship involved investing in the bonds it issues," the bank said in a statement received by Economy News.

"Through the Department of Foreign Investments and Remittances, a plan has been prepared to cooperate with the World Bank on the side of reserve management, and to invest in dollar-denominated bonds, with at least $300 million," the bank added.

The World Bank's Ramp Reserve Management Advisory Program is a platform for advising on the development of asset and reserve management in developing countries and international institutions to enable them to maximize their financial resources. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17645

Chattels   Iraqi opposition parties form shadow government

Adnan Abu Zeed September 4, 2019

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/iraq-shadow-government-opposition.html#ixzz5yeDRCuwV  

larrykn   Rafidain launches additional supplementary advances to state employees through MasterCard

Economy News – Baghdad  Al Rafidain Bank announced on Tuesday the launch of additional supplementary advances for employees of state departments ranging from (5, 10, 15, 20, 25) million dinars and estimated salary of the employee, through the international MasterCard card and their salaries are home to the bank.

"The double advance spoofed twice as much as the employees of the state departments to more than 11,500 employees who have already been granted personal advances and who have submitted the second additional advance and were disbursed to them by MasterCard," the bank's press office said in a statement.

"The disbursement of this advance was made through the customer's fingerprint and then informed the employee by sending him a text message notifying him of his advance, after he completed all the legal procedures to give it to him and spend it through electronic payment tools to which the financial balance was filled," the statement said. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17637

larrykn   Parliamentarian predicts a wave of change to the birth of a new political trend on its way to Iraq

Baghdad-In  A member of the Strategic Planning Committee MP Mohammed Iqbal al-Saedi, on Wednesday, said that there are clear signs of the birth of a new political trend, and the destruction of political blocs each other is to avoid the drift generated by the next wave of change.

"In Iraq, the conflict is taking shape on a daily basis, and clear signs of the birth of a new political trend, based on an audience that has begun to break restrictions and break down legacies that have been deposited with the new political system," he said in a tweet.

"The disruption of political leaders and the destruction of each other is an attempt to run forward to avoid the drift generated by the next wave of change," he  said.

http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=83455  

madness   which way you think this will pan out, do they delete our 3 zeros from the 25k note and we break even or do they delete the 3 zeros from the exchange rate that being 0.00084? then it would be 0.84 and let market forces take over?

chattels   madness I do not know.

chattels   And I am less than impressed with anyone who purports to know.

madness   I dont either but it would be nice to know, be a bummer if people have wasted the last 15 years to come down to the wire and get shafted

larrykn   Kuwaiti mp attacks Iraq over complaint: Kohl with the eye of the ramming loss

A Kuwaiti mp on Tuesday attacked Iraq over his complaint against Kuwait at the UN Security Council, saying it was "a loss."

"This is Iraq's long-standing approach... I'm not going to do that. Kohl with the eye of the sand is a loss."

Mp Osama al-Shaheen said that "the Government of Iraq's complaint against Kuwait is provocative behavior that is not surprising to the neighbor of the north," calling on the government to "respond practically and objectively, as well as take full security and diplomatic precautions."

Iraq sent a letter to the Security Council accusing Kuwait of pursuing a policy of imposing a fait accompli by making geographical changes in the maritime border between the two countries after mark 162 in Khor Abdullah by strengthening a shallow area [Fashet al-Ayj] and establishing a unilateral edifice of a square structure on it. "This has no legal basis in the joint plan to regulate maritime navigation in Khor Abdullah," she said.

http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=83449  

larrykn   Ok back to your regular programing lol

larrykn   madness I really wouldn't worry about a LOP that is just not going to happen , its been in many articles someone is just trying to stir the pot.

larrykn   chattels good luck my friend , take care

chattels   larrykn “ There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume.

If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear.

We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to – The Outer Limits. ”

madness   ok so a LOP would be knocking our 3 zeros off the 25k note and in effect making it 25 correct

chattels   madness I have always argued / allowed for the possibility of a " lop ".

madness   if they lop were basically up the creek with no paddle then

chattels   madness It is a recurrent notion, indeed there will be rumors and the possibility of a " lop " until there is a definitive event of some type, eh ?

xyz   9-4-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni ...why would Iraq be working so hard to create a market economy and get private investment if they did not plan to follow the IMF directive to float the dinar?

I believe that is why we have not seen the CBI do anything as of yet...The conditions for the float are not in place...meaning the laws and investment. ...People tell me all the time...We don't trust the IMF.

Or what proof do we have the IMF is in charge. etc. Well my question is...when has the IMF been wrong with Iraq? When has Iraq not done what they IMF asked?

chattels   madness I have abandoned any worries regarding events over which I have no control.

madness   I would have to say chattels smart move

madness   on the bright side, the cbi did say they did not want to lop, they want a fixed rate and peg

chattels   The persistent debate regarding " lop " or " float " or " RV " have become tedious. I am invested and will stay the course at this point for better or worse.

madness   they also said they did not want to float, but kap keeps bringing that krap in dinar land, it funny cause it goes against exactly what the cbi is stating

madness   im in it too, I drank all my dinar

chattels   Assuming one even has a reliable translation, perhaps, but who can believe the accuracy of any information out of Iraq ?

chattels   madness It is all " madness " ! :)

madness   my dinar is collecting dust, I have not looked at it in a while, but was getting giddy about breaking out the monopoly board with some dinar dong and zim and having fun

Chattels   We have participated in a great adventure. Will we experience awe and mystery or disappointment in the outcome ?

foxmulder   chattels it would be nice to really find out , one way or another.

foxmulder   chattels that's good news

chattels   " I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel." - Quote by Maya Angelou:

madness   I dont know chattels, people that have been in this 15 years, it my go haywire, im worried after all that time some my become suicidal knowing they just got shafted, others will become severely depressed, who knows it could be bad, I have not been in that long, but its something to ponder for some folks, or hopeful everything works out for the better and its a happy day

chattels   madness Adulthood or " manhood " requires more of us.

chattels   " If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;

If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;

If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster

And treat those two impostors just the same; .................. Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,"

chattels   We have dreamed the dream and thought the thoughts.

madness   well just saying, my aunt was a stock broker and its not uncommon if they lose everything to take a header out the window, thats why its disconcerting i* gurus posting gibberish to stir the pot and play with peoples emotions

chattels   madness Understood.

chattels   madness Money will not guarantee any of us happiness, but it is more comfortable crying in a Mercedes than on a bicycle, eh ?

madness   there is one thing I think though that people have not taken into consideration our treasury holds dinar, I dont think they would take to kindly of iraq lopping off 3 zeros and in effect devaluing there currency, the back flack from the US gov. would not be nice.

madness   and lol on the mercedes

foxmulder   madness is that for certain the treasury does

madness   we logic would dictate of course our gov. has dinar in there reserves

Foxmulder   madness well they regulated the sale of dinar ..so who knows

madness   I heard rumors they are running out of dinar to sell, thats a first

foxmulder   madness have not heard that

Baxter   You can buy mine for a DIME

madness   yeah and iraq has placed laws on how much dinar can come in and out of the country

Foxmulder   Be nice to see them stop , along with the auctions

madness   no go im holding out for more than a dime, I would like 1 to 1

Madness   here is a trip, that zim note is now 35 dollars on ebay, 6 months ago it was selling for 165 dollars, so much for the zim note

Baxter   worthless..... not worth my dime

madness   yep, I only own 2 I never had any faith in it

madness   from the looks of it, not even worth your nickel which is half a dime

Baxter   worth zip

Baxter   what are you gonna do with it... banks wont take it.... it was demonitized over ten years ago

madness   im going to wait till the gurus pump it up again and then ebay it

Baxter   might as well

Whitelions   The Central Bank Begins Steps to Join the Official Monetary and Financial Policy Forum (OMFIF)

The Central Bank of Iraq has ....Public auction to rent restaurant CBI staff.....Gold prices in Iraq markets.....Monthly Rates (Base Price)....Daily Rates (Base Price)....Daily Iraqi Dinar Exchange Rates against Major Currencies and Gold (Buy, Sell)....Rates of foreign and Arab currencies against the dollar for the period (1995-2019)

»Rates of...Monthly rates of the Iraqi dinar exchange rate against the US dollar in the Iraqi markets

»Monthly Rates of Iraqi Dina.....Daily rates of the Iraqi dinar exchange rate against the US dollar in Iraq.....Daily exchange rates of the dinar against the US dollar in the window of buying and selling foreign currency

»Daily dinar exchange rates against the US

.Whitelions   I have not got the all posted yet but I'm working on it they are from the cbi site

Whitelions   those are the titles of the news releasese

Baxter   looks good.. thx

Baxter   something will happen someday.....

Baxter   Dimes will be a flying... LOL

Xyz   Syrian pound falls to record level https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.alsumaria.tv%2Fnews%2F-%2F317516%2F0  

Doug_W   Clay are U thinking of silver again??? Silver:$18.84

Tebow   - TNT: Natok: (Late Wed. Night) OM bank story this morning: Someone had someone that went to bank, the WF that was told that they had training on exchanging small currency (Zim) been in 12 years.

So he showed the bank member that he had 10,000 and I amthink 20,000 Zim's and was told they were waiting for the go ahead at any time.

She told him they would be exchanging the 50 & 100T notes, she would be giving him a 50T note! told him the 800's will be out soon.

During today's TNT call I got a cal Il from A friend that is a Senior mgr at a tier 2 bank. She got a call at 8 AM this morning and was notified that the 800#'s will be released over the weekend and for her to be ready. She was also told that the plan was to complete all tiers by 9/10 and you will

Baxter   UH OH.... both silver and gold are really down today.... silver down almost a dollar...

5 Sep 19, 02:25 PM Baxter   gold down 32 dollars

Xyz   Baxter so is Syrian Lira ;ice-cream;

Baxter   I saw that...

Baxter   good for them..

Doug_W   Silver:$18.84-0.74

Doug_W   Gold:$1,520.97-36.64

Baxter   wow..

Baxter   dropping like a rocket..

Baxter   that hurricane is doing worse damage in the carolinas than florida

Clay   yep

Tebow   China/US agree to trade meetings

Tebow   markets calm a bit

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IQD Calls Chat Wednesday Evening 9-4-19

IQD Calls Chat Wednesday Evening 9-4-19

Sparky   Baxter ...Kap brought in an op ed about coins, and a quote from CBI position saying their not ready yet, and he was attacked... by blue sky dreamers..

Sparky   ...may have been from Finance committee member... talking about coinage...

Doug_W   Silver:$19.55

Sparky   ... after all this time invested, why would anyone discount a very possible and positive scenario...baffles me...float...vs flat line...vs b* pie in the sky pipedream...

Zig   Kaperoni does have thick skin....he will be back.....nothing intimidates him.....give him credit for that.....this is not the friendliest place for someone like Kap........

Sparky      ... don't get me wrong, would love to see it come out at $1 plus out of the gate...and, I don't know enough, to know that it won't... just seems improbable to me...jmo...

Sparky   Dave ...had a talk with Kap yesterday, I read...

Sparky   Dave ... Kap stands on Art 4 consultations...IMF prerogative...was right on the 2% spread...yes ?

Dave   Like inventing this note count..........

Dave   Or so Kap did not obviously spin this coin stuff?

Sparky   Dave ... his analysis of the note count / auctions...to balance the spread, seems logical to me... balance... to keep spread under 2%

Dave   Sparky yes Iraq has been compliant for a long while....AND?

Sparky   Dave ...Kap called that 2 years ago...and, it still holds...

Clay   so wheres my RV then lol

Clay   JK

Sparky   Clay ...in the new market...

Dave   IMFs rules yes ....not Kaps rules missed your point

Sparky   Dave ... is IMF in charge of CBI...caretaker..?

Dave   Sparky ASKED kap about the auctions and where all those notes were.......enjoyed his response...thought it EPIC

Sparky...CBI couldn't get their head out of their arse, after Shabbibi...

Dave   Sparky IMF caretakes of all currencies in the world......

Dave   Its up to iraq NOT IMF.......GEEZE.....

Sparky   Dave ... one in the same, now... thank goodness...

Dave   maybe according to some Guru

Sparky   Dave ...how, all of a sudden, they are able to control the spread ?

Dave   Sparky IRAQ has been compliant......for over a yr now i think

Baxter   Dave.... I read how Kap told you how the currency auctions work... that Dinar is not taken out of the system like you think it is...

Dave   Baxter yes because all GOVT employees get envelopes stuffed with cash........

Baxter   and... the CBI... gave the IMF absolute control of the Dinar over two years ago... when the CBI couldnt get into the 2% spread... they gave it to the IMF to handle... they got it done in less than six months

Dave   So Says Kap......

Sparky   Dave ...yup, 18+ months...after IMF took receivership from the know nothing puppet...Also, soon to be head if Arab bank...? That's Maliki machine radio broadcasting that crap...

Baxter   he is correct

Dave   IRAQ is in RECEIVERSHIP?

Sparky   Dave ...IMF has had enough of the corruption...

Doug_W   Silver:$19.68

Wilder    This jeff guy. Video about chapter 7 or something. Anybody listen to it? I have not. The replies were showing excitement

Sparky   Dave ... from what I take, he simply brought in a quote from some CBI source, saying CBI is not ready for coins yet... I think the op ed was from a Finance minister...but, as always, I could be wrong...

Dave   Sparky GOT the Story ENTIRELY WRONG.....!!

Sparky   Dave ...that's what I get from speed reading...tell me the jist...

Clay   me too

Dave   Sparky Kap spun it 180 degrees.....

Dave   should still be in the logs

Clay   what article

Dave   Clay The Coin talk

Clay   oh ok

foxmulder   Clay he has his opinion and outlook on this . That's fine . We will see how this all plays out .

Clay   coins need an increased value IMO

Sparky   Dave ...love to be knocked out, at 1:1 out of the gate...

Dave   Sparky dime will work too

Clay   dinar will never be used if less than 1 to 1

Dave   they still like all those usd.....

Clay   because of value

Sparky   Dave ..imo...USD can be brought in quickly...like a balloon... whatever they want to put on the street...

Dave   i guess.......after getting paid in Cash/Dinar they go running to exchange it for usd

Sparky   xyz ... right 3 off 86 ?

Sparky   ...or left 3...off 1190...equates to almost the same...

Dave   Sparky Has CBI ever mentioned delete 3 zeros,talk of LDs and coinage?

Dave   LDs at the nominal rate would bankrupt them in minting/printing costs alone

Sparky   Dave ...recall reading new versions of currency...same illustration s, just no 3 zeros... circa..."the appearance of " Saleh...vg, of CBI...2012...

Dave   Sparky recollect coins that were never released either

Dave   Like coins.....

Dave   cost more than twice to mint over notes

Sparky   Dave ...yes, in what denoms, is the question...

Dave   3 zeros offf difficult to comprehend

Sparky   Dave ...we see fils, were into something good...

Dave   Sparky thats what they have been talking about

Sparky   Dave ... haven't seen any info about denoms, just " coins "...

Dave   CBI has mentioned LDs

Sparky   Dave ...lds have been mentioned many times...250,500,1000...

Sparky   Dave ... now, if that means 5 cents,...or, any fraction of a Dinar... Im going to smoke my stash..

Dave   then you wont care.....

Dave   think cbi is going to advertise the new 1 dinar coin?

Sparky   Dave ... not concerned, I'll have a few minutes...

Sparky   Dave no, not until operational...

Xyz   Tebow 9-4-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni People want to associate me with some float theory. It's not a theory it's what the IMF has specifically asked the CBI to prepare for in 2013. That is a fact and subsequently the CBI has been making significant changes with monetary policy and economic conditions to accommodate such a move. That is a fact. That is not my theory.

spankie   all money floats up and down every day--question is where they going to start the float at ?

spankie   best theory is move the decimal point to the left

Sparky   spankie ...now that's " Bingo "...

Sparky   spankie ... hopefully, it goes right...play on words...

spankie   lopping 3 zeros does nothing

4 Sep 19, 08:53 PM spankie   hope we see something real soon - tired of the ride

Spankie   kuwait has mostly alll income from oil- they r way up there on value

Sparkys  pankie ...where can you go, and spend a few grand, and get comedy's like this...?

spankie   true dat

spankie   kinda liked skelfla- got banned

Sparky   Young_SC ...baaahha ha...

Young_SC   spankie go figure on the oil ehh hmm sounds familar

 Young_SC   On top of many other things

Young_SC   But ohh lets just continue with the same ol narrative of not accounting for dinar in circulation  

Young_SC   Lets just pretend that a top 3 rich country in the world who has no clue on their own assets can never account for the 40 trillion dinar as quoted by guru kap?  

Young_SC    xyz sparky can answer it for us since he vouched for guru kap

Sparky   Young_SC :sick

spankie   they need high value to purchase an entire infrustructure plus housing for the peeps and article 140 payouts- they r in trouble where they r now- toilet paper- thats why 40 some odd tril in circulation?

Young_SC   Remember that even Qatar and Saudi Arabia's currency is worth more then Iraqs at this moment lol

Young_SC   QATAR!!!!!!

Sparky   Young_SC .. B's, not t's...lol...

Sparky   Young_SC ... wow... Nativity abounds...

Sparky   *naivety...

 .Whitelions   Hi all can someone remind crap strongly that the CBI SEID NO FLOTE and then give him this link explaining how the IMF WORK'S

Whitelions   https://www.imf.org/external/index.htm

Portmagaland   Hawaii is  amazing, I get it now.

Portmagaland   When this thing pops, you all might want to look at hawaii for your new home

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IQD Calls Chat Early Wednesday 9-4-19

IQD Calls Chat Early Wednesday 9-4-19

Doug_W   Silver:$19.35

Doug_W   Silver:$19.38

Doug_W   Silver:$19.42

Foxmulder   Doug_W  gee looks like I will be back to where I bought silver from 2 yrs ago LOL

Doug_W   it is rising 4 sure

foxmulder   Doug_W hey I'm making money now LMAO

Doug_W   don't spend it ALL in one place then

foxmulder   Doug_W LOL could buy a six pack of beer !

foxmulder   Doug_W more dinar ??? ......... NOT

Baxter   its a new day.....  

larrykn   I see Kap has a different way of thinking lol

Baxter   Now what?

Larrykn   I've always wondered what will the e-currency do to the money supply of Iraq. it is a good question

larrykn   Central Bank establishes banking relationship with RAMP program

Economy News _ Baghdad  The Central Bank of Iraq announced Tuesday that it is continuing to establish a banking relationship with the World Bank's Ramp Reserve Management Advisory Program, indicating that the relationship included investing in its bonds.

"The relationship involved investing in the bonds it issues," the bank said in a statement received by Economy News.

"Through the Department of Foreign Investments and Remittances, a plan has been prepared to cooperate with the World Bank on the side of reserve management, and to invest in dollar-denominated bonds, with at least $300 million," the bank added.

The World Bank's Ramp Reserve Management Advisory Program is a platform for advising on the development of asset and reserve management in developing countries and international institutions to enable them to maximize their financial resources. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17645

larrykn   Trebil achieves a daily revenue of nearly 2 billion dinars and a quarter

Money and business   Economy News _ Baghdad   The General Customs Authority announced Tuesday that the Trebil border customs center is investigating a daily revenue of nearly two billion and a quarter of a billion dinars.

"Yesterday, the Trebil customs center achieved a daily revenue of nearly 2.5 billion dinars in a series of qualitative jumps achieved by these centers and most of the centers scattered at border crossings," the authority said in a statement received by The Economy News.

"The continued increase in revenue rates achieved in most of its customs centers is a natural result of the efforts of its staff working there as well as the outstanding management during the current period," she said.

"Its realized revenues are included in the Ministry of Finance's account with the Central Bank of Iraq, which is subject to audit by the Financial Supervisory Office and thus is the highest revenue to raise the state budget after oil revenues despite the challenges, constraints and severe shortages in numbers," she said. Qualified employees and lack of minimum requirements, means and customs work equipment." http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17643

larrykn   Is ISIS a real threat or a pretext for foreign forces to remain in Iraq?

Political | 02:46 - 04/09/2019

Baghdad :  The international coalition against ISIS has confirmed that the group's cells have regrouped.

It has carried out operations in a number of Iraqi areas, and these cells continue to pose a serious threat in these areas, and constitute an obstacle to the return of displaced persons to their homes, pointing out the importance of coordination between peshmerga forces and Iraqi forces to counter the threat of this organization, where the factors that led to Isis has begun carrying out terrorist activities in a number of areas, posing a serious threat to its population.

"The intelligence services of the international coalition have the information, capability and ability to use advanced devices, through which they have been able to penetrate and monitor the organization," said Imad Alou, deputy director of the Republican Center for Security and Strategic Research.

"There are reports and information from within ISIS, and that information indicates that the group is actually regrouping its capabilities, and this is evident through its terrorist operations and various movements both inside Iraq and inside Syria."

"ISIS continues to acquire weapons, explosives and materiel, and is clearly logistically supported, as it is used as a pretext for U.S. and coalition forces to remain in Iraq."

larrykn   "These statements always coincide with demands for the removal of Us forces from Iraq, or when the law to remove American forces from Iraq is to be passed, so the international coalition as well as the American forces try to suggest that the organization continues to pose a threat to stability in Iraq."

Iraq, therefore, considers this issue to be an excuse for the survival of The United States forces, given Iraq's need for advisers and the air support provided by the coalition in the Iraqi army's operations against the terrorist organization."

https://www.mawazin.net/Details.aspx?jimare=63450

larrykn   Baghdad Mawazine News

mp Ahmed Masher al-Jubouri revealed wednesday the real problem with the 2020 budget.

"The real problem with next year's budget is the debt to be paid, which is very large and is starting to be worth to Iraq, and this will weigh the budget in 2020," al-Jubouri said.

"The financial deficit comes at a time when the country needs more urgently to rebuild and stabilize areas liberated from ISIS," Hesseh said.

"The government should not harm citizens' salaries and reconstruction projects and rehabilitate liberated areas," he said. https://www.mawazin.net/Details.aspx?jimare=63448

larrykn   Al-Maliki: I was surprised that Saleh did not send my candidacy book for the post of Vice President of the Republic

Baghdad: The leader of the State of Law coalition, Nouri al-Maliki, said Friday that President Barham Saleh had not sent his candidacy to be his deputy.

"The failure to appoint a vice president is a constitutional violation because the constitution stipulates that the president should have one or more deputies," al-Maliki said in an interview.

Al-Maliki expressed surprise that President Barham Saleh did not take the decision to send his nomination book( Al-Maliki) to the house of representatives for a vote on it, despite the fact that Saleh spoke more than once about his desire to be the head of the coalition state of law Al-Maliki mp for his first. https://www.mawazin.net/Details.aspx?jimare=62627

spankie   Maliki – delusional

Madness   I was thinking this is going to go 2 ways, either they erase the 3 zeros off our 25k note, bad... or they erase the 3 zeros from the exchange rate, good... exchange rate being 0.00084 then it would be 0.84

Clay   would be great

madness   I think there going to go the 84 route and then let the market raise it from there

Madness   was reading another post from another site and the guy made a good point. here it is A lop is the last thing iraq wants to do...a lop shows weakness, screws over their own citizens and sends a bad signal to investors...iraq cares about whats  their own borders.

[an increase won't make them any richer, would it?] they get the purcashing power and their lives back...we get rich...they care about their country and their citizens...

iraq is filthy rich we are nothing to them...['we' are nothing, what 'we' hold.] yep. we will find out soon.

[but would you agree that we have been here before? expectng to find out] no they are bringing out the fils/coins...we havent had that.

foxmulder   madness at this point in time , I would be happy to see them just make , a major move .

EricB   Kaperoni Thank you

madness   alot has been said this week about us being foolish and not seeing a return on the iqd, well one could also sit back and shake there head and say, well gee it would also be foolish to try and come on the international market with a currency worth toilet paper

madness   well fox they did take another 10 days off, those iraqs and there holidays geez

foxmulder   Just want to witness the rate go on a positive climb , we have no control . And all the opinions and statements made do not make a bit of differance , until Iraq changes it's current status..

madness   with all the holidays its amazing there even able to get oil out of the country

Madness   yeah I think common sense would say when they do make a move, it will be an change to the exchange rate not dropping the 3 zeros off the currency

madness   well fox they want the 25k notes off the streets, but I think the 3 zero thing is the rate factor, a dinar is hopefully worth a dinar

foxmulder   madness it was discussed that they would drop the zeros off the notes AND exchange rate

madness   yeah thats were it gets shaky exchange rate good for us, exchange rate and notes bad for us

madness   but then lets say our treasury is holding dinar in there reserves, that would in effect be devaluing there currency and I think the treasury would be pissed if they tried that, I know I would be

madness   lol matter of fact the treasury is already pissed off of many countries lowering the value of the their currency, I hopeful they will not let iraq do the same thing, we have a much stronger foot hold on them, they did that to us we could jack them up pretty good

spankie   they need purchasing power- devalue currency is good for places like china or india that sell everything- iraq needs the opposite - purchasing everything

madness   good point and God knows they have the oil gold and wealth to do it

spankie   oil they sell - not much else- kuwait is the same selling oil is 90% of revenue

madness   well I think they want to branch out into agriculture too and build an high speed internet structure too

Spankie   they need everything- banks are set up for this

Clay   yes theyb are come on Iraq

spankie   why all the banking changes- for a lop-? could have done that way back

Clay   yep   no lop     no Kap

spankie   if they are doing coins then there will be a change in value- imo --the coins are heavy - imagine buying a car w coins at todays value

Clay   heck yeah  tons

spankie   baxters always talking semi load of dimes

Doug_W   Silver:$19.46

EricB   Kaperoni Morning, one last thought if you will. If the majority in Iraq are dependent on the govt for income, together with the average business person, city, county, state, federal employees if you will, plus the various unions, teacher, trucking etc it would seem the banks would have a good handle on the large notes in Iraq.

Surely the banks aren't handing out cash for govt services or salaries to the citizens right? What segment of their society would be getting cash? So aside from typical ATM use, assuming its similar to here in the US with daily limits, the large notes should be under control, no?

Deano   Here's a question that I presented two nights ago. Should have posted last night with Kap, but was concentrated on other things with him.

Deano   Who believes they can or cannot rv overnight?

Zig   Deano : I no longer believe that is possible...at least not a major move as many are hoping it does....I do not care how it increases in value, just hoping it eventually does so....

Doug_W   I say NO overnight

Deano   Ok appreciate your answers. And I agree with a no overnight. But what if Iraq has been preparing this to happen overnight. They've been working on the logistics to do what we as well as their citizens have been waiting for. they have been dotting the i's and crossing the t's.

Deano   No takers on my little theory? Fair enough.

Clay   Deano just want 1 to 1

Deano   @Clay I get it. My point is everyone agrees to no overnight rv. But it is my opinion that they've been working on this for quite some time.

Clay   agree   its not overnight by any means

futuremoney   Deano Im at the point that I don't even know if what we have been waiting on even exists..

Deano   If they were going to just flip the switch they would have done this a long time ago. But they didn't. They opened this box of a puzzle and started putting the pieces together.

Deano   @futermoney never give up hope. I believe we're a lot closer than what some think.

Deano   I get it and I understand. You guys have been in this a lot longer than I have. But he who is patient will prosper.

Loren   Has anyone here ever been on dinar speculator, with Medic?

Clay   heard of him but no

Loren   I was wondering whatr happen to him, I followed him while I was Iraq

Loren   The last that I heard from him, his health wasn't real good. But that has been years ago.

Clay   I remember

Loren   Hey I really need to get something off of my chest.

Clay   go ahead

Loren   I spent time in Kuwait also, while was there I discovered that the Kuwaiti's get paid a oil bonus according to the percentage of Kuwaiti that they have. Another words the higher the percentage of Kuwaiti that they are, the higher the amount of oil bonus they receive. Kuwait is taking care of its citizens and their understructure, Their town and roads compete with what we have here.

Clay   I have a patient that teaches school there   knows nothing of the dinar

Loren   To my point, Iraq has more oil than most of the Middle East. On top of that I am reading that they also have 96 tons of gold to back up their currency. Which in my layman calculations works out be somewhere just south of $5T. Now it seems to me that if Iraq wants to set a rate that they have the capital to back it up?

futuremoney   Loren agree

Clay   question is why arent they

futuremoney   issue most have is the note count..

Clay   not me never believed in it

futuremoney   Clay you dnt believ in the note count?

Clay   no

Portmagaland   Good morning all. This isnt going to happen "overnight", huh? I'm guessing those of you who have been in this game for ten to fifteen years can already vouch for this, but I get the "overnight" naysayers meaning, however, for some of you 10 to 15 years is 3652 to 5478 nights, no?

futuremoney   Clay you think its false info from Iraq?

Clay   yes

Loren   I have look at that too, I figure that its somewhere around 50t.

Clay   dont know why

spankie   keeps speculators away

futuremoney   possibility...in order to hide what they want to do

Clay   could be spank  could be future

future   moneyClay how do you account for the UN saying what the note count is?

Clay   no idea why they would

future   moneynot guru stuff

Clay   true I guess

Loren   I will say this, in ten years that I have been following this. That I have never seen advertisements wanting to buy Dinar?

spankie   with the worthless dinar they will continue to to have high note count

Clay   spankie agree

Futuremoney   Loren yes its in my facebook and email s quite constant

Clay   its currency and currency sells   useless today maybe not tomorrow

Loren   Yes but they are not selling they are buying. My best question would be, do you know of anyone selling?

Doug_W   Loren I have gotten a lot of mine off Ebay

Clay   I have sold needed the $

Loren   When?

Clay   recently  not like my finances were 9 years ago

Loren   When did you buy, recently?

Clay   hopefully Doug

Doug_W   not in a couple years now no

Clay   9 years ago

Loren   Has anybody been paying attention to Iraqi dinar auctions? I have heard that they have stopped selling dinar?

futuremoney   Loren still selling

Loren   Shoot! that would be a major indicator .

futuremoney   yep

futuremoney   Clay you plan on re buying?

Clay   no

Loren   I am going to leave my reaction as shoot, however my disappointment is much deeper than that.

Loren   Maybe I will go to Ameritrade, maybe things look better there?

Zig   Loren : Do you keep in touch with anyone in Iraq?......Would be interesting having someone in chat who lives there, etc....

Sparky   Baxter ...Kap brought in an op ed about coins, and a quote from CBI position saying their not ready yet, and he was attacked... by blue sky dreamers..

Sparky   ...may have been from Finance committee member... talking about coinage...

Doug_W   Silver:$19.55

Sparky   ... after all this time invested, why would anyone discount a very possible and positive scenario...baffles me...float...vs flat line...vs b* pie in the sky pipedream...

Zig   Kaperoni does have thick skin....he will be back.....nothing intimidates him.....give him credit for that.....this is not the friendliest place for someone like Kap........

Sparky   ... don't get me wrong, would love to see it come out at $1 plus out of the gate...and, I don't know enough, to know that it won't... just seems improbable to me...jmo...

https://www.iqdcalls.com/chat/

IQD Calls Chat With Kaperoni 9-3-19

IQD Calls Chat With Kaperoni  9-3-19

Late Tuesday Night:

xyz   FLOAT = RV per guru @kaperon ...

Xyz    Kaperoni  what's the difference if the floating take an year to 1000%, which you call gradual vs 1000% in a month?

Kaperoni    xyz, technically there is no difference but the pace and rate is set by the CBI. I don't know if they could reduce the money supply that fast.

Kaperoni    I think 6 months is realistic at a min. https://dinarrecaps.com/our-blog/iqd-calls-chat-with-kaperoninbsp-9-2-19  

xyz   Zig MarkZ: "I am Excited About This Week" https://dinarrecaps.com/our-blog/markz-tuesday-5pm-est-chat-9-3-19-i-am-excited-about-this-week  

xyz   I wish and pray that guru @kaperoni can come here and answer all my questions honestly -- without floating agenda ...

Dave   xyz he has never answered any of my questions either

Dave   evade or divert......

Dave   xyz CBI has been lying to us for yrs?

Dave   Kap has a better plan.......and these are his reasons

9-3-2019 Newshound/Intel Guru RVAlready We can see CBI educating people and preparing to release this. Progress is certainly being made...

Dave   mentioning coins though.......that cant be bad?

Dave   unless we get the 25k coins........????

Dave   someone mentioned 1000 dinar coins

Dave   but they already have that ...in a note......so almost delete 3 zeros.......

Zig   xyz Young_SC : Float with Kaperoni and me.....Come on!.....Very soothing.....Float your stress away......Ahhhhhhhhhhhh......

Zig   xyz: "maybe @Zig might drag his xxx here"....... ;oh; ...Oh my.....

xyz   Zig wow is that sr. Guru kaperoni?

Young_SC   Dave xyz lolol

Zig   .....A few lurkers have recently become active....Join the fun!.....Chat with Kap!.....lol.....Register and post today!.....It is simple as no email is required.....Follow the yellow lines for instructions.....located above/below the chat box....you can be posting in a minute.....What are you waiting for?...... ;dont no;

Zig   Kaperoni is here, Z   Ask your questions....

xyz   Zig no .. and am on mobile yet again

Kaperoni   There still is a lot of people on here that just don't get it. I could care less what they do but those articles are talking about a LOP

xyz   Zig ask your buddy @kaperoni to answer my questions without floating ideas jejeje

Kaperoni   And those that want to believe the CBI over everything else should discount those articles 100% because those articles clearly say when they talk about the coins that the CBI is against it

Zig   Oh....the CBI disagrees, huh?

Kaperoni   Yes. Zig   Here is a quote from one of them...

Kaperoni   Alkdo expressed surprise at the "policy of the Central Bank, which does not favor the introduction of coins for circulation in the Iraqi market."

Zig   Someone made the comment that you are fixated on stuff from many years ago....and are not current.....

Kaperoni   But it is almost comical now that there are so many that just believe in an RV, and have absolutely no understanding of how they're going to account for 42 trillion dinar. It's just not possible with an RV

Tebow   Kaperoni No you don't get it! Many in here do not care what you have to say or your opinion.

Zig   Kaperoni : Well that's true, Kap.....many here do not care what you bring here.....LOL.....Oh well...

Kaperoni   It's funny if you want to contribute to the conversation you should actually contribute I coming up with a concept, or an idea or away for Iraq to afford your mythical RV

xyz   Kaperoni hey Zig buddy ... wonna try answering my questions fairly with bias?

Kaperoni   XYZ what is your question now?

xyz   Kaperoni Please take time with me as I am slow

xyz   Kaperoni Can you please define FLOAT concept?

Kaperoni   Again if Tebow actually had something to contribute he would come up with a solution for 42 trillion dinar but he won't he just bashes everybody who doesn't fit his agenda

Deano   And @Kap you don't ???

Zig   Funny.....Kap is not negative so I do not understand why some have a problem with him.....he is far from a Sam.....lol

Kaperoni   Deano no I support everything I say with provable facts

xyz   Kaperoni Can you please define FLOAT concept?

Kaperoni   XYZ, the definition of a float is a type of currency regime. They're currently in a peg which is fixed when they switch to a float that is a different type of regime which allows the currency to appreciate. You know that Google works right?

Kaperoni   I should say I appreciate or depreciate depending upon the momentum

xyz   Kaperoni ... allows the currency to appreciate ... what is the time line for appreciation and/or depreciation?

Deano   @Kap I don't have a problem with what you bring. You may be right. You may be wrong. As other intel providers bring what they bring. It's when you call them names or bash if you will and say they're wrong I'm right. Don't listen to them listen to me.

Kaperoni   XYZ you asked that question yesterday and I answered it to you

Dave   Kaperoni is that TRUE?

Zig   Kaperoni : If the CBI thinks the float is making the currency gain/lose value too fast it can step in and control it, right??

Kaperoni   Yes Zig no matter who the central bank is if there currency is floating ultimately they have the right to step in and control the pace and rate if necessary

Dave   Alkdo expressed surprise at the "policy of the Central Bank, which does not favor the introduction of coins for circulation in the Iraqi market."

Dave   Whos ALKDO? Maybe it means not right now?

Dave   need how much a coke cost in fils and how much to mint those fils again? Kaperoni /?

xyz   Kaperoni am gonna restart what you said last night ... please correct me if I am off the rails

Kaperoni   Al-Qadu expressed his surprise at the "policy of the Central Bank, which does not favor the introduction of coins for circulation in the Iraqi market."

Deano   @Kaperoni are you still basing your opinions from what the cbi stated 7-9 or maybe 10 years ago ?

Kaperoni   That is the name of a member of parliament who is being quoted in the article

Dave   Kaperoni ! MP.......not CBI ok......lol

Deano   So all the pictures and educating the citizens on the coins is false ?

Kaperoni   Deano I base information that I provide to anyone who wants to learn on facts that are uncovered whether it's professional documents, from the IMF, World Bank, UN or any other along with news articles and reports

Deano   @Kaperoni based on what year? Now? Or years ago?

Kaperoni   Deano some information is Newsome as old it all depends on where it came from and the validity of it.

Dave   Recollect that coke convo talk Kaperoni ?

Kaperoni   Dave no Dave

xyz   Kaperoni You agreed that a 1000% floating of minimum of 6 months determined by cbi is what you theorem is about

You also agree 1000% in a month are the SAME. I also state that I refer both as RV. Do you agree with me? If not why?

Deano   So why doesn't your info match the info from other providers ?

Dave   Fils ever in the pic?

Kaperoni   Deano because they're not providing Intel they're providing b* and trying to pump the sale of currency. But I am providing is factual research based on professional documents as I stated and news articles which contradicts everything the gurus say

Dave   with disregard to the words of cbi

Kaperoni   Dave Dave I just quoting an article that included a statement from the CBI that says they're not interested in coins so that contradicts your own nonsense that I disregard the CBI

Dave   Kaperoni WHAt does the CBI do with the dinar from its auctions?

Dave   Kaperoni Maybe just not right now?

Dave   Al-Qadu Whos that?

Deano   I can honestly say that I've not had one intel provider convince me to buy currency

Kaperoni   Dave it is put back into the marketplace through payroll Etc I know what you're getting at that they would somehow be collecting it but it's not possible because you have to understand how auctions work. Auctions are a balance between dinar and dollar that is how you create stability of the currency.

A shortage of one currency or the other creates demand and potentially affects the exchange rate therefore they cannot reduce Dinars or dollars in the marketplace under this technique substantially because it will cause the dinar or dollar to get out of balance. And we all know the CBI has boasted for over a year how they maintain the stability of the currency

Kaperoni   Deano No

xyz   Kaperoni 1 + 1 = 10 and Z can prove it

Dave   Okay employees get envelopes stuffed with Dinar....

Deano   So @Kap are you saying that their will never be an rv ? Or they won't rv overnight ?

Kaperoni   People want to associate me with some float theory. It's not a theory it's what the IMF has specifically asked the CBI to prepare for in 2013. That is a fact and subsequently the CBI has been making significant changes with monetary policy and economic conditions to accommodate such a move. That is a fact. That is not my theory

Deano   Yes but that's 6 years ago

Kaperoni   Deano there can never be a significant RV, RI because there's too much currency in circulation to support it. So the answer is yes

Dave   PIP PIP for Kap,,,,,LOL

Dave   wheel barrows instead of wallets for these folks

Kaperoni   Dave Dave maybe not Dave if they LOP

Dave   how much fior a coke then?

John   Kaperoni "Fact" As you see them

Kaperoni   A directive from the from the IMF is not fake. That would be saying the 2% spread is fake, Article VIII is fake, etc

Kaperoni   John facts are facts there's no way to interpret any other way a fact.

Deano   @Kaperoni is the cbi using article VIII tools ?

Dave   Post lop how much for that coke at the nominal rate Kaperoni ?

Kaperoni   You know it's comical that you back something that I proved is factual from legitimate documentation. But you don't go after the gurus who constantly make up nonsense everyday to prove what they say. How come? How come no one's ever asked Frank 26 or TNT Tony, or this Jeff m* to prove what they say? Because they can't, it's not real

John   Kaperoni Allot of miss interpretation happens Just like in the Bible? No?

xyz   Kaperoni Is it your position that you based your dissertation on an IMF directive that you can't even factually defend?

Kaperoni   John the Bible is subject to interpretation on many things a direct statement from the IMF to create the conditions which would allow the currency to gradually appreciate cannot I be interpreted any other way

Deano   @Kaperoni that's false. I have asked Frank26 and I got my answer.

Kaperoni   Deano Lol

xyz   Kaperoni has agreed that flotation is FAKE

Kaperoni   Well you all have fun in your Dreamland have a great day I'm going back to studying documents now

Deano   @Kaperoni you made the statement and I called you out on it. But then you want to laugh about it. You're a hypocrite

Dave   but you have yet to answer my question wheel barrows or wallets post lop?

Deano   I just don't understand how someone can base their theories on something from 2013.

Deano   The CBI has even said their would be no float. But yet he says they're going to float. Am I missing something here ?

Dave   still not sure on that ALKIDO dude either

Deano   I haven't seen anything about no coins

Dave   Deano Kap claimed a source

Deano   @Dave that's what I meant. I haven't seen that come from any source. Not saying it didn't happen. Just haven't seen it.

Dave  Whos Alkido ????

Dave   just a dude?

Dave   So now Kap claims no to coins?????

Deano   I just did a search and nothing comes up.

Deano   Wait I found it. Give me a minute

Deano   The member of the finance committee Hanin al-Qadu, Monday, that the use of metal categories and lowered for trading gives a notion value of the currency. He added, "The use of metal categories and their descent for trading gives a notional value to the currency." Cash, especially in small categories."

Dave   translational errors me thinks   Save that for Zig.....

Dave   good job.........give yourself a treat.........;o;   lol

Deano   For his part, a member of the Finance Ministry Majid al-Waeli, "the readiness of the Commission for any legislation required by the Central Bank, which could BENIFIT the ECONOMY and the IRAQI MARKET, including Circulation of The Coins "

Deano   @Dave I knew their was more to that.

Dave   researcher.........you win Deano

Deano   One last one and then I believe I proved a point here.

Deano   "The committee respects the independence of the central bank and its monetary policy. " Waeli said, stressing that "the bank has technical autonomy by decision regardless of administrative affairs, which determines the USEFULNESS of the move to use the coin."

Wilder   When?

Wilder   Oh. Sawy

Dave   Dinar taken in at auction used to pay employees in cash.......that definitely get people to banks.......lol

Dave   stuffed in envelopes.......great transparency

Deano   Fro what I'm seeing Iraq has 45 billion in circulation. Not trillions like he was saying.

Dave   Deano How much of that is CBI sitting on.......?

Dave   Deano you may be wrong there.....

Deano   @Dave doesn't really say but I am doing a search

Deano   @Dave if I am then I'll admit it. Just giving what I found in a search.

Dave   know cbi is selling 200millionish usd 24 times a month for the last 1.5 yrs

Dave   tons of dinar

Dave   from dinar

Deano I can't find anything

Deano   Alright good people. Gonna call it a night. Gotta prepare for this big hurricane that's not going to affect us.

EricB   Kaperoni Is it reasonable to assume the paper IQD that is/has been collected thru the auctions is destroyed and later reissued as needed thru the ecards?

Wilder   Ecards?

EricB   Wilder Bank cards, credit cards, debit cards, etc. Point being electronic versus paper.

Red   Hi y'all, thought you might be interested in a different kind of intel for a change. FYI; It's ALL connected. ;secret; https://youtu.be/cbnJD2h_w9c?t=2048

Kaperoni   EricB that is a valid question. What you're really asking is can they convert paper money to electronic money and maintain the money supply until an appropriate time.

Kaperoni   I don't know if that is possible or not. As well I don't know if the CBI documents a difference between emoney and paper money. The question is legitimate and it is worth investigating but there may be other factors that come into play as well.

Kaperoni   The first thought that comes to my mind is if they're going to LOP e-money they would also have to LOP paper money I do not believe there can be a difference it must be treated the same.

Kaperoni   But they could technically probably just eliminate the emoney which would reduce the money supply.

Kaperoni Goodnight

sandy   f@Portmagaland Deano SandF lives there in Goungzhou or Shenzhen, I believe or he does extended business their. I've heard SandF boast about China, in posts awile back

Like many others you hear what you want to hear and jump to conclusions. I have been retired for over 10 years, have never boasted about China and do not have any pro Chinese stance, unless of course you believe that comes automatically being married to someone part Chinese.

My wife's niece studied medicine at Sun Yat Sen for 6 years and I will challenge garbage from those that have probably never heard of the place far less been there.

Senator McCarthy was discredited but obviously his views live on. There is a communist community in a village near where I grew up in the north of Scotland called the Findorn Foundation that has been funded by wealthy Americans, should they also be eradicated?

There are several communist countries in this area but the US is only anti any economy that is large enough to be a challenge, we see the same rhetoric directed towards the EU.

sandyf   @xyz Kaperoni never mind ... I understand you hypothesis but you have never explain the time factor.

If the IQD was to float from the current value and appreciate at 10 percent per month, in 2 years the rate would be about 100/USD, at 3 percent per month the rate would be about 600/USD.

No economy could withstand those levels for any length of time, I think the largest recorded was China at 7% in a year. Normal appreciation is in fractions of a percent.

sandyf   @JoeSchmoe future skefla has a very sandf..ish feel to him

The only thing we have in common is that we have both been to Sharjah, I was in the military there 10 years befor he went to school. Apart from that he is a lot better informed than I am.

I had cataract surgery on Sunday and it is even clearer you like to make things up.

sandyf   @Loren When Sadam took over the Iraqi government, 1 dinar was $3.22. Why is it not possible to believe that it can not revaluate the same way except inverse?

Apart from the currency in circulation issue, there are rules against asset appreciation. Depreciation is another matter and routinely carried out everywhere.

Some years ago Iraq had to get permission from the IMF to revalue some assets that had been acquired during the Saddam era, but many seem to think there is no problem randomly revaluing assets.

 https://www.iqdcalls.com/chat/

IQD Calls Chat Tuesday Evening 9-3-19 Part 2 of 2

IQD Calls Chat Tuesday Evening 9-3-19 Part 2 of 2

 JJ   I have mixed feelings, we have to remember that most of all transactions are going to be an electronic transfer, not many will be handed millions in cash! LOL

xyz   :popcorn

Clay   no but Bax doesnt buy all this

Zig   QUOTA, Z.....this is just a reminder.....

Young_SC   Clay bax listens to kaps nonsense

Dave   Young_SC Lured to the DARK SIDE by kap

ClayYoung_SC true

Clay   I dont

Zig   Young_SC : No harm in "listening" to everything..........

Clay   JJ true

JJ   I try to read it all,still forming my own opinion as in I don't have one

Young_   SCAnd now this SKEFLA person comes in and has sheep now lolol

Clay            all electronic

xyz   Zig really can even welcome JJ

Zig   xyz : ;Thud

Clay   Young_SC dont know who that is

Young_SC   All Kap talks about is float, investment and one of the richest countries can not swallow up the amount of dinar out in circulation

JJ   @dave ive not heard about the wheel barrows. LOL

Young_SC   Nothing more

Daveno    Wheel Barrows......you must be new!

Clay   lol

Clay   be nice

JJ   new to chat rooms, been invested in this for 15yrs

Clay   wow

Clay   me only 9

Dave   Clay Should I?

Clay   yes

Young_SC   Zig this is beyond opinions now. Kap preaches telling people the opposite of Iraq

Clay   if u prefer

Clay   lol

JJ   worst case it'll make a great wall paper

xyz   Young_SC aha @kaperoni is a preacher jejeje

Dave   Young_SC should I......or the cost of a coke?

Young_SC   Clay Iraq has already come out and told people what they want to do. Not sure people cant grasp onto that

Clay   yes seen that

Cla   yme neither

Dave   or spin it......

Young_SC   Dave He spins it big time     Him and Sam   Not sure why

JJany   one follow vital brad on uoutube

Clay   attention

Dave   half truths......omit the other portion which states HOWEVER

JJ   youtube

 JJ   claims to be texting with the Iraq peeps

Clay   dont know of Brad

xyz   Nobody can ask a preacher a question during a sermon --- hence @kaperoni gave a sermon and was unhappy with questions  Yes I finally said it   Reverend @Kaperoni

JJ   actually shows text messages on the video, but i doubt it's real

JJ   LOL

Dave   xyz KNOW Rev Jim

Dave   Taxi....

Wilder   Vital Brad is another one. He's into himself.

Clay   never heard of him

Dave   xyz BINGO

Wilder   Clay youtube him up

Clay   will look

Clay   any good or more b*

Wilder   Been awhile . he r3ads bews artickes and comments on them

Wilder   NEWS    Bitcoiner too

Dave   Got in on this 10 yrs ago.........CBI...delete 3 zeros....increase/restore purchasing power...........and their wealth. More recently alot on coins

Dave   When the time is right....do we really have anything more than that

Dave   oh yeah no float......

WilderWe have this chat . Rumble Jungle. Dave

Clay   no float

Clay   CBI told us that

Young_SC   Clay Dave Exactly

Clay   thats y I cant see where Kap is going with that

Clay   must have lost his mind

Young_SC   Purchasing power is one thing KAP NEVER MENTIONS and now why is that??

 Clay   who knows    like I said he likes the atterntion  thats all   attention

Young_SC   And purchasing power is the main reason for everything

Clay   yep

Dave   Young_SC yep   with out wheel barrows.....

Young_SC   Like i said this RV is not for us it is ONLY FOR IRAQ. We just benefit from it because we buy the currency at a cheap rate and benefit when they change the rate. THAT IS ALL

Clay   yep

Wilder   I could see this at when rv happens. Our gov't holding back on dinars redeemed as to not overwhelm iraq all at once. iMO

Clay   and thats all I want

Young_SCKAP speaks as if this whole scenario is directly for us

Clay   he knows nothing

Clay   like most

Dave   Wilder CBI ...ten yrs to redeem

Wilder   Ok. I forgot that

Dave   Countries hold foreign currency esp if worth something

Dave   you get your Pesos to go to mexico.......Banks do not order it in for you

Young_SC Dave and now in one of his statements Kap says ohh Iraq will LOP when they delete the 3 zeros when 2 weeks ago he stated the monetary policy is a success in Iraq when Iran it failed that's why Iran devalued their currency so now all of a sudden to Kap Iraq could LOP????

Young_SC   Didnt anybody catch onto that??

Young_SC   Lol

Young_SC   Kap is playing people for dummies

DaveYoung_SC S   Ame story for yrs........

Dave   or sorry theorems

Young_SC   Zig wonders why i make fun of Kap lol

Dave   We do not provide enough CLARITY?

Young_SC   Dave not enough indeed

Young_SC   And then you have the other one who again makes no sense whatsoever Sam

Dave   BASMLMIC SAMUELSSON EFFECTS.........WOWSERS

Clay   Sam is a trouble maker

Young_SC   Im not gonna bother with him because i can go all day ripping Sam

Young_SC   Dave lool

Clay   dont know y he even comes in here   more attention I guess   like Kap

Clay   never ever listened to Kap

Young_SC   I posted an article 2 weeks ago directly from the GOI on increasing its value of the dinar and our of no where Sam with his ohhh no that means LOP

Young_  SC   LOL

Dave   Clay where have you been?

Dave   Cokes and Wheel barrows directed to who?

Clay   working   no Kap for me lol  not wasting my time

Dave   Should have a census on that.....

Red    Oh   ..L@@KEE this... conspiracy no more...the QFS is real... I'm telling you guys...you're looking at the wrong news. ALL Central Banks are going down including the private FED.

Gold WILL destroy the FED. Trump is doing what JFK was murdered trying to do. Bringing the gold standard back worldwideand putting every country on the same playing field. GCR!

There will be no more banks...only financial service centers. Why do you think so many banks are closing their doors??

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-establishing-national-quantum-initiative-advisory-committee/?fbclid=IwAR0nsZZH4Yv9nGjxzklbWfI3W9V26eUmSNe1LFISo8tgV4-9QEN2xygvV00

Clay   wow

Clay   some thought

Dave   Clay HEARD FORT KNOXX is EMPTY......

Clay   heard the same  said US sold its gold

Daveoh    oh

Clay   yep   scarey thought

Dave   Would not WORRY!

ClayI thin   k most sold to China

Red   Bushes stole the gold in the towers before they brought them down. Trump EO seizing assets from corrupt players...WORLDWIDE. Besides US sitting on 8 tons of gold

Dave   Red only 3 billion usd worth

Dave   IRAQ 9 tons

Red   Russia, China, Kazakstan Jordan Colombia biggest purchasers of gold last 8 months

Clay   India too I believe

Clay   maybe not last 8 months though

  hear Melania is even more powerful financially than Trump....possibly something to do with Adnan Sakli

 ...Trusts containing more than Quadrillions

Dave   happens all the time....trade war ,market uncertainty ......gold goes up

Red   metals have fluctuated due to markets. WHO controls the markets..it's all rigged.

Dave   Red USA consumes 25% of what the WORLD produces

Dave   less than 5% of the population

Red   Dave That's why Trump is bringing manufacturers back to US. China gonna lose 13% of them very soon as the tariffs grow

Dave   worked out well for us when we paid the Asians 10 cents/hr

Wilder   What would that do to the stock market? Gold standard.

Red    Dave Only because inflation is what has driven prices up due to printing fiat currency. When gold becomes the asset, inflation will drop considerably. So will real estate, etc

Red   There won't be a stock market. It's also run by central bankers. they have controlled the crashes and everything else when they took gold away 1930s

Dave   as long as i do not require a wheel barrow over my wallet do not care

Wilder   Need some muscle to carry your gold dinar

Dave   coca cola microsoft aint going anywhere

Red   I had posted this earlier... it's a good analogy of the dying system gasping it's last breath... Lol http://www.paulstramer.net/2019/09/jackson-hole-and-you.html

Dave   Wilder now your talkin......

Wilder   : )

Dave   Red drive a hungry V8........

Red   maybe...just maybe...Iraq will go first, followed by US, and then other countries.

Dave   Red or maybe drive off the edge of the earth

Red   Dave like the Thelma & Louise final scene.... Hahahha

Dave   in my Porsche loaded with golden dinar

Red   Treasury list of frozen assets....and growing. Trump ain't messing around.. https://www.treasury.gov/ofac/downloads/sdnlist.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2xEiidb_fer1yoCLyUYYrbTNHdKXgbMUecERZ9K91xtXGNt0xT2P4iLM4

xyz   Red planet

Dave   Red FAMILIAR with the frozen assets CBI is sitting on?

Dave   sorry meant COI......

Dave   Integrity Commission......

Red   All assets seized, going through Treasury (including foreign assets) see .PDF ... & QFS is worldwide controlled by US like the Swift system was/is running parallel. I believe Marines have recovered a lot of the gold stolen. Once Head of IMF steps down next week, I think we will see some action

Dave   Dave TALKING TO MYSELF AGAIN

Wilder   Sign of age. Dave

Dave   Wilder nothing from Iraq is Relevant

Wilder   Only a few things in life is.

Dave   Wilder got 9 holes in today....good Day!

Wilder   Good job. Under par?

Dave   Wilder no but a few 300 yrd drives

Dave   nailed it ....3putted more than not

Doug_W   my truck drives thousands of miles so PFFFTTT on 300 yards

Doug_W   :laugh

Wilder   Thats a poke. I've not played in years.

Dave   Wilder jealous he cant golf

Wilder   Lol.

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IQD Calls Chat Tuesday Evening 9-3-19 Part 1 of 2

IQD Calls Chat Tuesday Evening 9-3-19 Part 1 of 2

FLAZON   @Sam I Am How are you Sam?

Sam I Am   FLAZON Good thx

Zig   Do you know Sam from elsewhere?

Sam I Am   They all know me

FLAZON   No... Followed his postings. Would like a discussion with him of he is open to one.

Sam I Am   Just like they all know Lex Luthor

Sam I Am   FLAZON sure

FLAZON   Sam I Am What is your take on these supposed institutional transactions that have been taking place? I suspect you think it's all conjecture to put it politely.

Sam I Am   FLAZON I don't know anything about them

Zig    A few new people have joined the chat recently.....Why not join in the fun?.....Simple to register and post as no email is required.....just follow the yellow lines above/below the chat box.....Come on!!!.....What are you waiting for??......We welcome all opinions here.....diversity keeps a room interesting...... :yes:

 Zig   Sure....you may discuss anything at any time with anybody.....no formality here.....just do it!!

FLAZON   Sam I Am so let's assume they are real and certain institutions are paying a premium well above the published rate. What if you were given undeniable "proof" that they were real and were asked to speculate why they were being executed. What would be your "theory"?

LeLe   Zig you're the BEST. You show up and show out. Love it.

John   Sam I Am Tulsa Oklahoma Homeless? lol

Sam I Am   FLAZON I have no idea

Sam I Am   Why would people pay higher than the published valuation?

LeLe   Zig it's called Keeping it Real. That's what you do.

FLAZON   Sam I Am Fair enough. On another note have you ever done an exposé on Frank26?

Zig   I think Sam has exposed them all.....lol

Red   Sam I Am My guess ...if they were looking for a specific series as would any collector...?

Red   Sam I Am Ok...I haven't seen those links... can you post or point me to them?This I gotta see. Lol

John   Zig I expose Exposers. Sam I Am I still call b* on your very misleading / CLICK BAIT video title "Iraq Dinar has Revalued" your a hypocrite and always drawing attention to yourself and your dated "blog" / website which is Monetized.  IT IS WHAT IT IS! Sam is guilty just as much as the "gurus" he hunts.

Red   Sam I Am :Thumbs-up

Zig   John : OUCH.....LOL

John   Truth Hurts

Zig   FLAZON : Your name is familiar....think I have seen you around.....

Sam I Am   2006-2009

FLAZON   Sam I Am My understanding is that its to due with quantity and some agreements between the IMF and certain institutions.

According to a poster who has now left or been banned. He claimed that there would be no overnight RV. Rather these institutions would make big returns by wrapping this dinar up in a complex derivative.

They paid a premium because of the quantity and prerequisites they insisted on for the dinar.

FLAZON   Zig Really?

Zig   FLAZON : Were you at PTR years ago?

John   Sam I Am They where at one time moniitized. "The dinar revalued" is Misleading scamer

3 Sep 19, 02:39 PM John   W Ever it isB* and we all know it.

John   Sam I Am Get a Job

John   FLAZON Another newbe? SUSPECT?

FLAZON   Zig What is PTR?

Zig   FLAZON : LOL....never mind.....a forum....

Zig  FLAZON : Do you think we, the average speculator, will ever profit from this???

Baxter;ice-cream; Im Loving it

Zig   Baxter : Shoo....Shoo!!.... ;swat

Baxter   Oh No.. I be good..

FLAZON   Zig I will be careful what I say. But no. My belief is that the average speculator will not profit from it. Unless you classify a nominal change as a profit.

Zig   FYI: I did not bring FLAZON here!!.....LOL

Zig   FLAZON : No need to be careful.....let it all out.....lol

Wilder   Can't believe i missed the revalue. That really Sucks.

Baxter   we will see what his rate is..

Baxter   by the way.... the Dinar is a profit for me... I could more than double my investment right now

Doug_W   Baxter that makes one of us LOL

Baxter   LOL

Baxter   I actually dont have a real dime in it...actually... I bought it off of profit from something else

  FLAZON   Red Aren't we intuitive! Maybe finally one of you crazy conspiracy theories is true! Who am I really ? Lol

FLAZON   @Vizo Hi Vizo

Zig   FLAZON : Hope you become a regular.....IF YOU DARE.....LOL

Zig   Kaperoni visits often.....you can chat with him.....lol

FLAZON   Zig ZIG are you really that dumb ? Lol

 Zig   FLAZON : Unfortunately.....Yes..... ;sad2;

FLAZON   Zig You're a good guy but a bit slow on the uptake... Lol

Red   FLAZON Zig I get those kind of vibes... ;thinking:

Wilder   Zig zig likes to. Promote Rumbles.

 Zig   Hmmmmmm.....maybe SKELFLA has returned as FLAZON......OMG..... ;oh;

RedZig You finally clued in. hahahaha

Zig   Red : I....AM.....SLOW

 Zig   Wilder : No...No...No....I promote discussions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Sam I Am   gotta run guys ... take care

  Zig   Zig doesn't like to be fooled.... :Really? .....lol

chocolatiere   Good morning and a big thank you to Kaperoni for taking the time to explain in detail facts that make sense , grateful for him , over the years he has been sticking to the facts ! Looking forward to af

Vizo   FLAZON Hey

Baxter   chocolatiere good afternoon... at least here it is....

Red   Zig I did try to warn you. I got my vibe as soon as saw the weird name with the capital letters, and the content in the first post. Can't change stripes to spots.

Clay   wow lots of new peeps

Red   K got my popcorn. :popcorn Please continue. Dis gettin gud,,

Wilder   Lol Red

Wilder   We on break?

Red   Well heck! ...this convo stalled ...just like Dorian.

 Red   ...churning the same waters...over and over... :rain

Red   off to twitterland...Walmart is trending. Lol. Talk soon

Clay   Red who

Red   Clay Who what?

 Clay   who was in here causing trouble

 Red   Clay no trouble...just a banned person sneaking in to tweak at Sam I am

Clay   oh ok thanks

Red   Clay Poor Zig.... gotcha moment :hamer h

Clay   too funny   how u been

Wilder   It's better than rumors. Gonna have to get institutionalised to make money. How do we?

Clay   padded room 4 me

Red   Clay waitin...waitin...waitin... same as everyone else! ;fishing;

LeLe   Clay how is things going at the new location.

LeLe   Doug_W Hopefully soon you can take many more vacations.

Clay   great thanks

Clay   lovin it

Doug_W   LeLe I sure hope so

Clay   cant be soon enough

Dave   institutionalized to make money? we do not get paid i n this Asylum

Clay   nope

Dave   thought i missed the boat on that too......

  Zig   Doug_W : How come "BKTLA" stopped posting here??.....maybe invite those other DP "leaders" again?....I know Bobby won't come but how about Pat and that Mark?....

Dave   institutionalized to make money?...NEEd that 1-800#?

Dave   Zig Called Pride maybe....?

Zig   The 800 numbers are being released soon by MarkZ......relax......

Dave   Zig time they know that they wont bet back by coming here?

xyz   Zig hey buddy ... kap disappointed Z last night. He kept preaching float verse -- why is he trying to selling it?

Zig   Dave : You don't seem to mind....LOL

Dave   xyz because he can.....

Dave   Zig Done with Kap.......

Zig   xyz : He believes it based on 10 years of research......

Dave   from 10 yrs ago.....

xyz   The Fed Is "Unable To Delay" A Recession Any Longer https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-03/peter-schiff-fed-unable-delay-recession-any-longer

Zig   Dave : No, The Article 4 Consultation was recent, etc.....

Dave   Zig Float.....lop...etc thats what Russia Did etc etc etc etc etc

xyz   Zig that's a piece of you know what. The dude refused to answer my question! Z gotta disdain gurus ;angry

xyz   Zig Z got more serious research than Micheal

Dave   xyz opinions we all have them.....

Zig   Big deal....so what?.....Kap is one person with one scenario.....don't let it bother you.....he has no input with what will occur.....

Dave   prefer words from the source

xyz   Zig am not bother --- not even one iota

 Wilder   If your a Cow Isis needs your help. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/isis-using-booby-trapped-cows-to-attack-targets-in-iraq

xyz   Zig oh dear thought Doug was real --- a rumor!

Zig   xyz : Silly....you know what I meant.....jejeje

Dave   DP peeps really admittedly opinionated ...no time for Gurus, GCR or Cabal Forces

Zig   Dave : They would be a welcome addition to balance out that "stuff"......lol

 xyz   Dave Z believe guru @sandyf is a Cabal

Dave   xyz Dont care......

xyz   Dave guru @sandyf always throws a poisonous arrow and away jejeje

Zig   Red is our resident Cabal expert......

Clay   is that red scarlet?

xyz   Zig LoL @Red ...

Zig   Young_SC is our resident Guru slayer......

Dave   when one can not back up what they say......what do you call it......

Dave   when one can not back up what they say......what do you call it......

Dave   A THEORY.......VERY POLITE

Clay   another guru

JJ   Anyone else think that MarkZ is a serious currency dealer?

Dave   or b*

Clay   nope

Clay   dealer maybe know things no

Dave We are good with the THEORIST term then?

xyz   JJ glad to step onto ya

xyz    JJ MarkZ is a jester

 xyz   JJ NOT guru jester but 'a jester' haha

Zig   He has no inside info.....NONSENSE.....puts out b*

 JJ   II had an uncle that got into this about 15yrs ago, he was one of those that would call all hours of the night to tell you it's going down right now. I agree, Mark has an agenda for somethig

Clay   he sure does

JJ   @zig totally agree

Dave   WHY listen then..........?

Clay   JJ where r ya from

Zig   JJ : Stay here....some b* seeps in but very little in comparison to other places......lol

Dave   Zig ???????

xyz   JJ even @Kaperoni as he want dinarians to think highly of him. Doesn't need to prove that one is smart if can prove your theorem. Z-Said

Zig   Dave Some.....lol

JJ   I've always thought it would be impossible to RV over night, I would love it but I think Kap is probably closest,

JJ   Arzona

Clay   oh ok me NC

Clay   I dont buy his float

Dave   JJ familiar with wheel barrows?

Zig   It is very soothing to float.....Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......lol

Clay   Iraq stated they want to come out with a strong rate

xyz   JJ I have been told that I need to go back to school and guess what by MAYBE my students jejeje

Young_SC   Dave no proof at all from certain people and it is soo easy for people to believe them

Clay   gullible    newbies

Young_S   C    That is what makes it funny

 Zig   Young_SC : "Guru Slayer"......

Young_SC   Clay Baxter, Sparky are not newbies

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IQD Calls Chat Early Tuesday 9-3-19 Part 2 of 2

IQD Calls Chat Early Tuesday 9-3-19  Part 2 of 2

 Loren   I do know that Kuwait pays it citizens a oil bonus, that makes me think that in fact that it is possible for Iraq to do the same. I have read that Iraq has 90 tons of gold to back up their currency.

JoeSchmoe   which is why my rebut about them supporting dinar in country

JoeSchmoe   paying out...which doesn't make sense

future   we will find out soon

JoeSchmoe   future that is what I am hoping with all the recent news/happenings

JoeSchmoe   but would you agree that we have been here before? expecitng to find out

future   no they are brining out the fils/ coins

future   we havent had that

Loren   George Bush JR. said that the Iraqi war would pay for its self. This is the way that I am hopping for?

future   loren that could mean anything

future   but u better bet ur bottom dollar we have lots of dinar

future   in our treasury

JoeSchmoe  Loren yea, everyone was hanging on that years ago too

JoeSchmoe   future so we have been told

future   currency swaps are common

JoeSchmoe   yes

Loren   I am hoping that it means that the treasury is hold dinar?

future   of course they are

JoeSchmoe   just anyone out there reading this chat for encouragment, just don't let the likes of sandyf or skefla or sam i am discourage you and make you sell back. We should all know soon enough our fate......i hope

Loren   Which in turn makes it good for us?

JoeSchmoe   think about what the plus of this would do for you, as opposed to losing maybe a few thousand dollars or more

future   they been around or a long time joe same crap spewed for years different user names

JoeSchmoe   wasn't answering you loren, was just expanding on my above statment

JoeSchmoe   future skefla has a very sandf..ish feel to him

future   of course

JoeSchmoe   i see it in his verbage

future   i agree

JoeSchmoe   same person most likely

Loren   I have been holding for over ten years, believe this isn't my grocery money.

JoeSchmoe   that should be the main indicator right there, if he wants to give you his credentials in order to believe him

JoeSchmoe   Loren me too on the over ten years

future   as ssoon as he said he owns no dinar lots all credibiity with me

JoeSchmoe   not grocery money, but also won't save my butt if I had to sell back. I treat is as found money

JoeSchmoe   future that too

Loren   Were you in Iraq, or did you get interested online?

future   has an agenda now

JoeSchmoe   Loren through a client

JoeSchmoe   then came online once i had, for support

JoeSchmoe   future exactly. I mean...WHY would anyone want or feel the need to come in and discourage us?

JoeSchmoe   if they don't own?

future   thats what they do joe

future   they have been doing it for years

JoeSchmoe   future exactly. Just throwing that out there for people scared of what they say

future their full of crap just like most of these gurus that call it every other weekend

JoeSchmoe   and when you ask skefla why he does it, he gives the EXACT same answer in the exact same verbage that sandyf has and does

JoeSchmoe   future it actually should encourage investors, instead of discourage

future   lmao joe i noticced that and sandy f believes that neil keenan bullcrap

Loren   To me it is like the about the lady who prayed every nite to win the Lottery. When said got to heaven she ask G;d why he never answered her? God answered, in order to win the Lotto you have to buy a ticket.

JoeSchmoe   don't know what he said about that, cuz I don't read him anymore

JoeSchmoe   sandyf

JoeSchmoe   Loren lol

Loren   That is why I dream about Dinar.

future   known sandy f since his lop days at dinar vets lmao

JoeSchmoe   what thing that does have me a bit perplexed, even though I don't like that guy, is why hasn't poopy3000 been speakinkg lately? lol

 future   what happened to BGG?

future   does he do calls anymore?

JoeSchmoe   future he still has his site

JoeSchmoe   i think

Clay   hes selling dinar

Clay  wouldnt buy mine back said I dissed him here

JoeSchmoe   Clay wow really

Clay   yes

JoeSchmoe   are you that discouraged now?

Clay   yes

JoeSchmoe   why

JoeSchmoe   just frustration taking over?

Clay   needed the $

JoeSchmoe  is there any pinpoint reason why you don't think this will happen

JoeSchmoe   Clay you must have a lot if 'most' will get you out of trouble

Clay   I do

JoeSchmoe   good for you

JoeSchmoe   whod you sell back to

Clay   wont sell anymore

Clay   safe dinar

Doug_W   @Loren are you new here?

Loren   That is another point. I am seeing all kinds of adverstments wanting to buy dinar, but none selling?

Loren   Yes

 Doug_W   Silver:$18.95

Loren   I see that as positive sign?

JoeSchmoe   question...we know we have see articles posted about an RD. Were those just opeds, or has the cbi every stated it?

JoeSchmoe   ever stated

kevin311312   raise the purchasing power is what I always remember

JoeSchmoe   kevin311312 are you answering me?

Loren    I was just looking, we said that their is 42 T out in Dinar. Lets say they reval, at a $ loosing the zeros. That changes it back to 42 b and gives us a one to one?

JoeSchmoe   I just want to know if the RD articles that we have seen are just opeds or from any from cbi

kevin311312   just throwing it out there

JoeSchmoe   Loren i just question the idea that anti gurus state they have to support what is in country...meaning pay out

JoeSchmoe  there is way more in country than out

Loren   I am reading that Iraq has 90 tons of gold plus their oil revenues?

Loren   Also Iraq has more oil than any other country. Shoot while I was there you could see the oil on the ground on base.

Loren   Plus theU.S. is not allowing Iran to sell its oil, which enhances Iraq's oil market. Another words I am hoping that we are seeing the prefect storm?

Matt   Looks like that hurricane is not gonna hit as hard as they thought that's good

Baxter   my trailer could have wound up with you in the Pacific Ocean

larrykn   I don't think I want to live in fl

larrykn   we are looking at Tenn

larrykn   they have some retirement places down there we like

Wilder   Anyone here bank with US bank. They are closing several more branches here in the Cincinnati area. Curious as to why if anyone knew. Closing many more through out the States.

Baxter   Nope... the one in lima is open....but I dont go there

Wilder   Daughter called telling us they are closing hers.

Baxter   Our Fifth Third closed down out near me...and Now I have to go into Downtown Lima.... which I dont like to do.... and it was a busy branch too... kind of surprised me

Wilder  Baxter dinar happens you open up one. Baxters Savings and Loans

Baxter   yep....

Baxter   Baxters Dimes and Savings

Wilder   Gold: $1,550.24 $18.72 Silver: $19.20. Climbing on up.

Doug_W   Silver:$19.22

 Wilder   I like it.

Dave   Go silver......

Dave   gosh i said i would sell if it hit 20.00

Dave   may stick....Doug think we see it hit over 40.00 like it did yrs ago?

Dave   Doug_W silver up almost 75% in about a yr

Young_SC   Central Bank announces strategic banking projects for the next five years

Young_SC   http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17644

Dave   Young_SC no engrish

Dave   Young_SC coins in that article?

Young_SC   You guys should read that

Dave   do not read arabic

Young_SC   Dave talks about iraqi dinar to raise

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IQD Calls Chat Early Tuesday 9-3-19 Part 1 of 2

IQD Calls Chat Early Tuesday 9-3-19 Part 1 of 2

Doug_WSilver:$18.59

Doug_W   Silver:$18.61

larrykn   Good Morning everyone

larrykn   Iraq, UN sign agreement to support reconstruction projects

Part of the signing of the agreement between the representative of the Iraqi Government and the representative of the United Nations Development Programme

Money and business   Economy News – Baghdad  Iraq has signed an agreement with the United Nations Development Programme through the government's $33 million contribution to support the activities of its reconstruction and reconstruction projects.

"With this financial contribution, it is becoming one of the top 10 UNDP donors in the area of re-stability in Iraq," the Iraqi government said in a statement.

"These projects include the rehabilitation of infrastructure and the provision of basic services, such as water, electricity, health care, housing and education, in liberated and damaged areas, particularly in Nineveh, Anbar, Salah al-Din, Diyala, Kirkuk and Basra provinces," the government said.

"This agreement reflects Iraq's commitment to strategic partnership with the United Nations, aimed at restoring stability in liberated areas, restoring displaced persons, and building and rehabilitating infrastructure in provinces that have suffered and been affected by the country's conditions," the statement said.

The UNDP's Reconstruction in Iraq project, which has completed more than 2,000 resettlement projects to date, benefits more than 8 million Iraqis.

The project was launched in June 2015 at the request of the Iraqi government and supported by the international coalition against ISIS, to support Iraq's efforts to quickly restore stability to liberated areas and to help displaced people return to their areas. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17638

larrykn   Iraq calls on Australian companies to invest in oil and energy opportunities

Economy News _ Baghdad   The Oil Ministry on Tuesday called on Australian companies to take advantage of opportunities in the oil, gas and energy sectors.

"Deputy Prime Minister for Energy Affairs And Oil Minister Thamer Abbas Al-Ghadban met with Australian Ambassador to Iraq Joanne Lundis and her delegation to discuss ways to strengthen bilateral cooperation between the two countries in the energy sector," the ministry said in a statement.

"We are concerned about the situation in the region, but we are not aware of the dangers of the situation in the region," he said.

Australian Ambassador Joan Lundis said her country wanted to strengthen joint cooperation with Iraq in all fields, particularly in the oil, gas and energy sectors. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17639

Zig   Received a reply via email from Jeff (Dinar Investor)......I will keep it private.....will only say that he will not be back.....does not like this chat room......I will leave it like that.....

xyz   Zig tell he gotta have to thicker skin to survive desperate dinarians

 mod   Competition amongst the Dinar "Gurus" astounds me ;thinking:

foxmulder   This whole endeavor astounds me after all these yrs

chattels   The post by My Ladies approximates my sense of all this dinar speculation at this point.

chattels   Newshound Guru MyLadies In my opinion it's really just a common sense issue...Iraq is not in a vacuum and the biggest pill to swallow is the one where we finally have to admit to ourselves that we were just foolish and uneducated and gullible and dazzled by bull**** to think we would be millionaires overnight...

Those who choose to accept what deleting the zeros...will be able to make a plan. Those that do not will be most likely jumping off bridges...I am not saying there is no money to be made with the dinar.

I'm not suggesting anyone get rid of it or sell it or whatever, I am simply saying there will not be overnight millionaires, the currency has a value and when it is excepted internationally there will be a trade to be made and the current value will be leveraged at an institutional level and a private level for those holding enough...currently the dinar sits at 1190 if the value raises against the dollar to even 1130 1140 1150 that is a good day in the currency trading arena....

xyz   Zig your float guru dodged my questions

Baxter   Thats a long ways from my Dime Chattels.... Good Morning

 foxmulder   chattels Good Morning ... well I not be jumping of any bridges ! Wait and see more as usual ...

Baxter   The good news is.... I think my trailer is going to stay in Florida instead of out in the ocean somewheres

chattels    Hurricane preparation today. Have a fine day all.

The Central Bank establishes a banking relationship with the World Bank's RAMP program https://cbi.iq/news/view/1259

foxmulder   xyz xyz there is no plane .. and the it seems the popular opinion is no RV either..so we got that going for ys.

Gary   $3.00-3.25 rate was just an in country rate that was set by Iraq. An artificial rate that meant nothing. Even the rate in Kuwait means nothing. Who would want to trade with Iraq when it would cost them $3.41 i.e., for every dollar - NO ONE!

There is not enough oil on the planet to cover a $3.00-$4.00 exchange rate. It will NOT happen. One day, you will be able to exchange trade the Dinar on a daily basis for small profits, but don't expect to exchange your currency for a massive amount of money!

JoeSchmoe    Gary OH Gary , THANKYOU for telling us how is it going to be!!! You are my new dinar hero!!! 'happy-dance 'happy-dance 'happy-dance

Zig   Gary : :Welcome To the chat room!!

JoeSchmoe   NOW I can relax and not expect this thing!

Baxter   yes.. you can replace JEFF.... who was here.. ONCE

Zig   ALL OPINIONS ARE WELCOME HERE, GARY......

JoeSchmoe   Baxter doesn't he have a 'kap'ish influence? lol

Baxter   slightly

Zig   Getting tired of the way new people are treated here.....

Baxter   Oh Zig... have a ;ice-cream;

JoeSchmoe   well...when it's as obvious as this

Zig   I could do something about it if I wish......

 Baxter   Kap did have some pretty good commentary in here last night...

foxmulder   Baxter people are genuinely looking for answers .. opinions abound.. most just trying to make sense of it all. We will see the outcome at some point. Hopefully !

JoeSchmoe   Baxter this?.....Kaperoni   Parliament has a value. It's at 1 to $1 and it's a LOP. lol Reducing 42 trillion to 42 billion.

Kaperoni  There can never be a substancial RV or RI with over 42 trillion dinar in circulation. Impossible for Iraq to support such an amount.

Baxter   JoeSchmoe I think that was part of it...

Baxter   No country could support that much dinar.... I believe he is correct on that..

JoeSchmoe   Baxter sounds like par for the course as far as kap is concerned, minus the lop

Baxter   he was joking on the lop part.... I hope

JoeSchmoe   Baxter I still get hung up on why they would have to support what is in country, since they won't be exchanging it for another currency

JoeSchmoe   the rate should only matter to us, right?

Baxter   I dont know Joe.. sorry

Baxter   I know there will only be one rate... this in country stuff to me.. is b*

JoeSchmoe   I just try and use our usd as a scenario for it. If we weren't the currency that everything was pegged to

Baxter   you buy canadian currency at the current rate of what ever it is... and its the same everywhere at that given time

JoeSchmoe   for those who have say, $10000....would it mean that they would have $3000 if our exchange rate multiplied by 3?

JoeSchmoe   oops 30000

JoeSchmoe   "WOULD" they lop just because of what all of us hold, and they couldn't support it?

 Baxter   I dont think so Joe.... a lop would ruin their economy

Baxter   they have no reason to lop

Baxter   they have no inflation

 JoeSchmoe   Baxter can you see my point about why would they need to support what's held inside country, when they won't be exchanging?

Baxter  JoeSchmoe yes I can

JoeSchmoe   I think everyone gets hung up on the amount of TOTAL currency in circulation, when the majority is in country

foxmulder   JoeSchmoe they have continuously said increase purchasing power , strength of the dinar against the US dollar. Does a lop accomplish that ..

JoeSchmoe   foxmulder I don't believe in LOP, to be clear. I am just trying to rebut all this talk about needing to support the amount of dinar in circulation

JoeSchmoe   trying to use whatever scenario's I can think of

Baxter   JoeSchmoe does the US Support all of our Dollars?

foxmulder   JoeSchmoe oh I know !! Just asking ...

3 Sep 19, 09:08 AM JoeSchmoe   Baxter exactly

JoeSchmoe   which is why I was using the scenario of IF we weren't the currency every other one was pegged to

foxmulder   I guess a lop doesn't make sense .to me except for the fact currency is market driven.

JoeSchmoe   if I had $1000 in my bank account, would I then have $3000 if it went up 3fold

Baxter   yes.. thats true

JoeSchmoe   not saying I believ it will go up threefold

JoeSchmoe   just as a scenario

Loren   Everything I read seems to point to a lop. Which way is the decimal point going to move, left or right? $25,000 IQd = $25. IQD or .0008459= .8459?

Loren   When Sadam took over the Iraqi government, 1 dinar was $3.22. Why is it not possible to believe that it can not revaluate the same way except inverse?

Baxter   .8459... would be to one us dollar.... .8459 divided into one dollar.. would be about 1.19 .....

Baxter   because the countries GDP...is much..much higher than that... the IMF would never accept a rate like that

Loren   I love the sound of $1.19. That is a real possibility?

Baxter   I hope so

Baxter   Loren when Sadam took over at 3.22.... there was less than 18 billion dinar in the world.... thats why

Baxter   thats a long ways from 42 trillion

Loren   Do you think that we are in the window now? I have been a holder since 2005, and I have never heard this level of excitement, have you?.

JoeSchmoe   Baxter again,and how much of that 18 billion dinar was in country vs out

JoeSchmoe   THAT is the only way I would see them 'wanting' to do some sort of lop scenario, to not have to pay 'us' out

Loren   Of course there is no way of telling, but I do not believe that Johmn Q public is paying any attention to this. The only way I know is I was a contractor in Iraq for ten years.

JoeSchmoe   Loren do you own substantial dinar?

 JoeSchmoe   Loren I just meant are you holding dinar because you want this thing to go good for us, or are you in here to try and talk us down

Loren   No Sir! Believe me I am hoping for the best.

JoeSchmoe   500k is substantial, so youre all good

Doug_W   NEVER say how much U have ever!!

JoeSchmoe  Doug_W ah thats why you erased it

Doug_W   yes

JoeSchmoe   im not saying i have 500k, just that is a substantial amount

future   A lop is the last thing iraq wants to do a lop shows weakness, screws over their own citizens and sends a bad signal to investors

Loren   Have you heard the level of exceiptment before?

JoeSchmoe   Loren no...and yes

future   joe correct iraq cares about whats in their own bordders

JoeSchmoe   future as far as j=why

JoeSchmoe   why

future   ?

JoeSchmoe   an increase won't make them any richer, would it?

Loren   In turn that begs for the question: Do you believe that it is happening now?

JoeSchmoe   just using my wacked out scenario of our usd appreciating

future   they get the purcashing power

future   and their lives back

future   we get rich

future   iraq doesnt give a crap

future   they care about their country

future   and their citizens

JoeSchmoe   future I am only trying to rebut/combat the whole 'iraq can't support the amount of dinar in circulation' talk

JoeSchmoe   imo they only have to support what we all hold

JoeSchmoe   by suppor, I mean pay out

JoeSchmoe   Loren i answer that questiong with 'who the hell knows anymore?'

future   who knows but iraq is filthy rich we are nothing to them

JoeSchmoe   future 'we' are nothing, what 'we' hold.

future   yep

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