IQD CALLS Chat Saturday Night 10-12-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Saturday Night 10-12-19
Zig Kaperoni : Does the IMF have final say?.....or just strong "influence".....
Sergio The only reason the CBI is following The USA was to take out Isis because they were about to lose their country
Sergio Influence
Kaperoni Zig I can only go by the definition of trusteeship. Because that was the word that was used in the agreement
Kaperoni And subsequently if you look back over the last two years tremendous progress has been made within the banking system including the 2% compliance, the introduction of several banking reforms all things that Iraq seem to not be able to do on their own which were accomplished in very quick order
Zig One definition I found of trusteeship: "supervisory control"
Sparky Sergio ...Isis not until 2014, when Maliki created the chaos...after losing pm..
Kaperoni Sparky keep in mind when oil prices dropped Iraq was unable to meet their budget. And they knew it. So they needed substantial loans to fill the Gap just so that they could pay their people and those loans came with conditions known as stand by agreements. The CBI also signed one at that time as well due to the reforms that were necessary with the banking system
Sergio Backing troops out put Iraq in danger
IQD CALLS Chat Saturday Night 10-12-19
Zig Kaperoni : Does the IMF have final say?.....or just strong "influence".....
Sergio The only reason the CBI is following The USA was to take out Isis because they were about to lose their country
Sergio Influence
Kaperoni Zig I can only go by the definition of trusteeship. Because that was the word that was used in the agreement
Kaperoni And subsequently if you look back over the last two years tremendous progress has been made within the banking system including the 2% compliance, the introduction of several banking reforms all things that Iraq seem to not be able to do on their own which were accomplished in very quick order
Zig One definition I found of trusteeship: "supervisory control"
Sparky Sergio ...Isis not until 2014, when Maliki created the chaos...after losing pm..
Kaperoni Sparky keep in mind when oil prices dropped Iraq was unable to meet their budget. And they knew it. So they needed substantial loans to fill the Gap just so that they could pay their people and those loans came with conditions known as stand by agreements. The CBI also signed one at that time as well due to the reforms that were necessary with the banking system
Sergio Backing troops out put Iraq in danger
Kaperoni I wish I had more time but Zig had sent me a message telling me to comment so I did but I really have things to do this afternoon so I'm sorry this is an interesting topic but I can't participate anymore today have a good day everyone
Sergio Kaperoni thanks for the chat
Sergio As always we wait
Sparky ...pulling out of Syria, and at the same time sending more troops to the gulf... fascinating...
Crazycrypto one thing i learned is their is more to life than this dinar
Sparky ... Israel , Saudi about to take out Iran... while Turks stomp Kurds...
Crazycrypto some really need to re evaluate their time spent on something we cant control
Zig Crazycrypto : Right.....it has become too much of an obsession for many people......including myself.....lol
Sparky Crazycrypto ...go find another hobby if you don't like this one...
Dave Demonstrators in Baghdad and the provinces plan to hold a large demonstration on Friday, 25 October, to continue to demand legitimate rights, fight corruption and hold accountable spoilers.
Issued activists important points for these demonstrations , including
1 - raising images of Imam Hussein , peace be upon him , and the banner of Ya Hussein , being a symbol of the revolution
2. raise the Iraqi flag
3. Each graduate wearing the uniform of his profession
4. Each craftsman wearing the uniform of his craft
5. Our demands raised means media formerly the first of toppling the government
6. There are no leadership for the demonstrations is the leader of the people are the same
7- present the absent knows the date of demonstrations
8. all the provinces in their regions ... and all areas of Baghdad , heading to Tahrir Square on 25/10
9. repeat our demands , we announced the first of previously reported claim the homeland
10. is not allowed for any point of partisan or political revolution ride
11. taking caution and caution and follow Olaimat safety of tear bombs and firing live and other instructions that we've noted previously reported.
Dave thought they gave them 2weeks .........10 days ago......
Dave they care little about partisan politics...... all about jobs and the get those corruptors........
Francis AlbertI see whee Kaperoni states that oil credits as I have posited could never happen. I see no evidence to support that conjecture. if these alleged credits are in the $30 range, as I believe they may be, Iraq can get oil out of the ground for about $11 a barrel.
Kap will say it cost more, I believe it's this low for Iraq. Kuwait and Saudi oil. Countries "claim" it cost more and then they put $50 in the budget which leaves lots of room to skim dollars, which JP Morgan/NY Mellon skims. This, IMO is where all the stolen money has come from. Plus, all countries lie and cook the books over actual costs.
Sparky Francis Albert ... to get oil out of ground depends...$2 tops anywhere in Iraq.
Francis Albert And again, which Kap probably has not seen. Even IF the oil credit scenario is bogus...(and it's possible it is), I don't have secret sources. Even if it is a fantasy.
Bit picture we must understand that the big banks who own the FED, IMF, World Bank, BIS are the ones who initiate these "wars".
Thus, every bank in the FED system can monetize IQD, (create the dollars) because all currencies are debt instruments just like a mortgage or car loan) they can monetize the IQD and have up to 10 years to have Iraq take them back...and/or they can simply destroy the IQD if it serves their interest to have Iraq be stable, w/o revolution etc. and happy people who don't see the magic going on with Invaders slurping up their oil at cheap prices for years and years.
Sparky Francis Albert ...best , cleanest oil...imo... maybe a little sulfer...still premium grade, for minimal extraction cost...
Francis Albert I've not seen $2 cost Sparky, where do you get that?
Francis Albert So, the last two posts, I believe, renders Kap's long time argument that with all the Dinar out there a significant rise in the value is not possible.
Sparky Francis Albert ... read it years ago,...dudes stepping through oil fields...as always, jmo...
Francis Albert Remember, Central Banks don't need money. They create it. Their mission is to stay in control, don't expose the light of day to what they do. They often extinguish assets (paper) at their choosing. And, again to Kap's 40 Trillion Notes out there. That may be a close number.
But, can he tell us who has all these Dinar? No. No one can. But, I think a reasonable answer is Central Banks, which have total discretion if, when and how to use them.
Sparky Francis Albert ...hope I can accumulate more, 4 this goes down...4x...
Francis Albert Remember. Their goal was to get to use the U.S. to do the dirty work, in exchange for Dinar to trade for cheap oil and to establish Iraq as a solid base of operations to look after their "National Interests" in the Middle East: Oil, gas, WATER, rare earth minerals and massive amounts of fertile soil. When you have the vision of controlling the entire World...this is what they do.
Sparky Francis Albert ... excellent post...imo...
Francis Albert So, if they can help Iraq be International, fat and people happy, it is to their advantage to make the Dinar exchanges work financially for Iraq. In every crime the first question is who benefits?
Sparky Francis Albert ... except slightly backwards...
Sparky ...US took over energy producing nations...and also pulled a war, boom, bust economy here in the States...
Sparky ...ie Middle East...and, we ain't leavin'
Sparky Francis Albert ...key word water... Francis Albert ...think CBIs can make changes... absolutely...
biff Big Mass protest on the 19th October New York and around the country. They want trump and pence out. ;secret;
Sparky biff ... wonder why ?
Sparky biff took
Sparky... too greedy...
Sparky biff ...or just two buffoons... trying to get straight after wards...
Sparky ... greatest tax relief... turned into more taxes... wtf ?...Wake up...Trump almost destroyed our country...let's not let him finish the job...
Sparky ... unofficial end of monologue...
Sparky ...Trump U best me for a thousand...liar, and theif mf...
Sparky ...in cohorts with rich man, poor man author...
Sparky ...Kyosaki...?...(sp )...
sandyf @Dave 1000 dinar for a coke in IRAQ
Around 80 to 100 thousand for a beer in Vietnam. My flight is hand baggage only, no room for the wheelbarrrow, how on earth will I manage.
sandyf @Dave TWWIII look at the UAE did in a few decades ......from nothing
A large part of the infrastructure in the UAE was built by the British army. I was stationed with the RAF just outside Dubai in 1970, known then as the Trucial Oman States. Before the smell of oil drifted to the USA.
sandyf @Zig The decimal point is in the wrong place.....error.....
Unlikely - many financial institutions post to 4 significant digits and to get the most accurate information they quote in terms of 1 thousand rather than just 1. There has been many false alarms over the years due to this.
sandyf @Zig Kaperoni : "Sergio" As some of those who know me on here, know I have spoken to the IMF and was told flat out that the currency rate of any country is in the hands of that counties central Bank"
That is true as far as it goes in respect of currency. What people fail to appreciate is the difference between the currency and the monetary unit. Any change to the monetary unit would require an act of parliament and that would be the case with a redenomination. Introducing another currency with a new ISO code, as opposed to a new series, is a change to the monetary unit.
Matt Bitcoin BTC Price $8,374.24
Sparky sandyf ... hello
Sparky ... Scotsman are famous for having grit...
Sparky ...also recognize you are a traveler, allowed to see what is not allowed in USA media coverage...
TWWIII Sparky On the other side of the coin, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait can pump a barrel of oil for less than $10, on average. Iraq can produce oil for about $10.70 per barrel. https://money.cnn.com/2015/11/24/news/oil-prices-production-costs/index.html
Sparky ...$8.70 to corruption...$2 out of ground...
TWWIII In the United States, production costs are $36 a barrel -- still below the trading price.
Sparky ...ppb...
Sparky TWWIII ...all oil prices manipulated...as is stock exchange, indexes, and all else... etcetera...
TWWIII Sparky that goes with out saying yet itz true
Sparky TWWIII ... Just gotta get lucky, and catch the wave...imo...
TWWIII Sparky I have hit plenty nice waves in my dayz bk home
TWWIII b bk in a few, gotta light up
Sparky TWWIII ... regardless of anyone s opinion,... I like my investment... albeit slow ride...
TWWIII Sparky yes I too love my entire investments
TWWIII I have made very good returns in the past buying/selling/trading currencies, silver, gold, coins diamonds etc. So investing in different currencies is nothing to me. Trends is something to really good to follow
TWWIII **Nothing new to me
TWWIII gezzz I need to proof read before posting
Sparky TWWIII ...no, your ok...I understand...
Sparky TWWIII ... trends...key...
TWWIII Sparky what part of the country do u live
Sparky TWWIII ...ne coast... Boston area...
Sparky TWWIII ... actually, just outside of Boston.... why do you ask ?
Sparky ... guess I scared chicken...
Sparky ...anywho... large gas field s just discovered...lol...only half of Iraq ever surveyed...
Sparky ...the probability of this endeavor losing is very slim... imo...
Sparky ...at least triple my investment, even with a lop...
Sparky ...it goes 1:1...oh my gosh...yaughts, hookers, and casinos...be broke in 3 years if I do it right...
Sparky ... pretty good poker player...fyi...
Sparky ... that's why I got electric LLC...
biff Sparky lol
Sparky biff ...roll with me, we'll have fun for a minute...
Sparky biff ... or, be conservative, and have boring generational wealth...
Sparky ...rather have fun now... kids can make their own way ...
Sparky biff ... what's happening in the big easy ?
biff ok im back
biff a nomad
biff south
Sparky biff mad no... madman, ...
PM biff no
PM biff good man
PM biff the saint
Sparky biff ... think I can ever get my money out of Warka ?
Sparky ... heard seals en route...
Sparky ... sesquipedalian...
Sparky ...means talk about talk... circular logic.
Sparky ...good night now...
IQD CALLS Chat Early Saturday 10-12-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Early Saturday 10-12-19
sandyf @Kaperoni Egypt flooded their currency about a year-and-a-half ago under the guidance of the IMF and an article yesterday talked about how their GDP in Egypt is up to 6% as foreign investment continues to come in the result will be significant including the appreciation of their currency they are a good example even though they don't have anywhere near the oil Iraq has.
The question is - How long will it take Egypt to recover the 50% it lost overnight?
Egypt has floated its currency in a move that has reduced its value by almost 50% against the dollar.
One US dollar is buying around 14 Egyptian pounds, up from the nine Egyptian pounds the central bank was trying to keep it at.
The country's central bank said the move was one of a list of reforms designed to strengthen confidence in the economy.
Egypt's main stock index jumped by more than 8% on Thursday.
The central bank has also increased interest rates by 3 percentage points to 14.75%.
The move is a key requirement of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), from which Egypt is asking for a $12bn loan over three years.
IQD CALLS Chat Early Saturday 10-12-19
sandyf @Kaperoni Egypt flooded their currency about a year-and-a-half ago under the guidance of the IMF and an article yesterday talked about how their GDP in Egypt is up to 6% as foreign investment continues to come in the result will be significant including the appreciation of their currency they are a good example even though they don't have anywhere near the oil Iraq has.
The question is - How long will it take Egypt to recover the 50% it lost overnight?
Egypt has floated its currency in a move that has reduced its value by almost 50% against the dollar.
One US dollar is buying around 14 Egyptian pounds, up from the nine Egyptian pounds the central bank was trying to keep it at.
The country's central bank said the move was one of a list of reforms designed to strengthen confidence in the economy.
Egypt's main stock index jumped by more than 8% on Thursday.
The central bank has also increased interest rates by 3 percentage points to 14.75%.
The move is a key requirement of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), from which Egypt is asking for a $12bn loan over three years. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-37857468
Portmagaland Sparky I've had my differences with everyone in this room just about, she wasn't my favorite, but I dont agree with censorship. Just like I dont agree with NYC fining people up to 250k for speech. Sounds a lot like how China deals with HK and the NBA, no?
Arrykn Iraq PM seeks cabinet reshuffle amid calls for resumption of demonstrations https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44254/Iraq-PM-seeks-cabinet-reshuffle-amid-calls-for-resumption-of-demonstrations
larrykn Mnuchin threatens ‘very significant’ sanctions on Turkey https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44253/Mnuchin-threatens-very-significant-sanctions-on-Turkey
larrykn MP: Abdul-Mahdi smears his hands with demonstrators' blood, must be replaced https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44251/MP-Abdul-Mahdi-smears-his-hands-with-demonstrators-blood-must-be-replaced
kevin311312 Portmagaland that is because cuomo is a dictator not a governor.
Shiva On ferates.com/visa/usd the visa exchange rate of the IQD, VND, IDR, and KRW had change with 000 less. IQD=.8403 VND= .0431 what do you thing about that? fake page??
Zig Shiva : :Welcome Only place you should check rate of IQD is https://cbi.iq/
Young_SC Clay Zig That is not a fake page That is actually legit Currency rate's
Young_SC https://ferates.com/visa/usd Shiva Clay Zig
Baxter you mean... my dimes came thru??
Zig The decimal point is in the wrong place.....error.....
Clay it isnt? what does .84 come to Clay1 to 1?
Baxter more than a dime... LOL
Baxter its probably an error..
Young_SC Clay no it's not fake
Clay Young_SC I understand....just an error
Baxter Young_SC so how can u bid... .84.... and ask .0008?
Baxter i dont believe it.. sorry
Young_SC Baxter ok
Baxter Young_SC go back to that same chart and look at mastercard... IQD is .0008
Baxter visa.. is .84...... quite a difference IMO.. its a misprint
Kaperoni Shiva zig is right. Any brokerage website that reports on the dinar is not a value at this time because the dinar is pegged to the dollar and is not a floating currency at this time. So what you're seeing when you look at these other sites if the dinar is fluctuating it is because the dollar is fluctuating
Kaperoni The only website you need to concern yourself with pertaining to the value of the dinar at this time is CBI. IQ
Kaperoni I guess I'll stop back later and see if anyone wants to chat.
Sparky Kaperoni ... hi Kap...
Kaperon iHi Sparky
Zig Oh...sorry....I misread that post.....lol
Kaperoni Lol
Sparky Kaperoni ... I ,for myself, want to thank you for what you bring...
Zig Kaperoni : You should stick around.....your detractors are out of the room now.....lol
Kaperoni There's a very good article out today that I retweeted the talks about the new agreement between Iraq and China over oil. There is a significant difference between that agreement and oil at market price and the guru nonsense about oil credits which could never happen
Kaperoni Sparky thanks Sparky
Sparky Zig ... always considered Kap's theory legit...
Kaperoni Zig I had a currency trader stop in over on DA chat room the other night and he was telling me I was right on and that all this other guru RV stuff is such a nonsense. Lol
Zig Find Kaperoni Tweets at https://www.iqdcalls.com/kaperoni.html along with some float articles just above his recorded calls on the left....
Zig Kaperoni : As "RayRen" always says: "Time will tell"......lol
Kaperoni I'm really quite amazed at the progress that Egypt has made the last couple of years following the IMF. If they only had oil the potential for them would be almost as great as Iraq.
Sparky Zig ... think FrancisAlbert brought in some interesting thoughts also...
Zig Sparky : Stuff to ponder...
Sparky Zig ...yup...
Kaperoni Some people look at Egypt when they floated in how the currency depreciated is being a negative I'm sure it was but they don't have nearly the assets that Iraq has so I don't expect the outcome to be the same
Sparky Kaperoni ...when Iraq refines all gas flare offs,...will be another bonanza...imo
Zig Sparky : I keep an open mind as do you.....
Kaperoni Definitely big business
Kaperoni My internet friend dr. Bakri from Iraq surface yesterday if anyone happened to see the article he wrote to the government of Iraq? It's very good and of course talks about the urgency to launch the market economy
Sparky Zig ... I honestly see nothing but blue sky with this endeavor...
Zig Kaperoni : Why the URGENCY?
Sparky Kaperoni ... nice...
Kaperoni Zig, Iraq needs to diversify and create a market economy for many reasons primarily to rebuild and put people to work they just don't have the money to do it on oil alone.
Kaperoni But there are many other reasons including dependence on oil is not a good idea as it is such a commodity
Sparky Kaperoni ...if they could only mitigate corruption... market economy could begin... imo... after checking 7 release, and acceptance of Art 8...
Kaperoni And I thought building a good portion of the market economy expenses into the 2020 budget was a good way to expedite getting this endeavor off the ground. But now with these recent protest I'm reluctant to think that things are going to move forward in the next few months but time will tell
Sparky Kaperoni ... apparently chaos keeps status quo...but, eventually the corruption will be addressed...and they will prosper as a united country...imo...
Kaperoni Sparky they are making progress ever so slowly
Sparky Kaperoni ...yes, but I believe they are making progress...ever so slowly...
Sparky Tebow ... Kap's theory is a possible positive outcome for us... simply not overnight...
Sergio Hello I do not think Kap knows anything about the CBI
Sergio Even before Husain came back into power the IQD was about 2.80 and all they had was oil
Young_SC Sparky i already posted articles from the finance minister from Iraq stating thd opposite of what Kap tells you everyday
Sergio So saying they can’t just use oil to RV is not true.
Sparky Sergio ..." Heyday of the '70's '... Shabbibi...
Young_SC Sparky Once you LOP the currency that is a big failure
Sergio Sparky yup
Young_SC Iraq is not in the position of a LOP their economy is the opposite
Young_SC So where is KAP getting his info from?
Young_SC An economist?
Tebow Young_SC lops are for countries with failing economies
Young_SC Tebow Exactly
Sergio Point 2 the only reason the rate is what it’s at now is because the CBI took a program rate from the IMF
Sparky Young_SC ... we'll still make $...
Portmagaland Kap gets his info from the IMF and the IMF is 100% above the table, right?
Tebow Sergio yes it was change to a program rate, it can be changed back.
Sergio The IQD was never traded by Banks in its history
Young_SC Sparky why do you think the citizens are protesting? And you think the GOI will come out and LOP the currency??? I dont mean to be rude but it is common sense knowing that is a huge disaster
Young_SC Im not sure if you guys understand what a LOP is besides TEBOW AND DAVE
Sparky. ..no brainer for me... unless things go completely sideways... I'll still only lose what I put in...
Sergio As for those who think the IMF is controlling the CBI they are flat out wrong
Young_SC Sparky Kap makes a LOP sound like its a stroll in the park
Sparky Tebow ... currency supply skyrocketed... not the same...
Sparky Young_SC ...get this...they could lop, then float...for accounting purposes...
Tebow Young_SC the 25K note is roughly $26 USD. If they lol it's worth goes to $.026 cents, talk about riots
Young_SC Tebow lolol
Sergio As some of those who know me on here, know I have spoken to the IMF and was told flat out that the currency rate of any country is in the hands of that counties central Bank
Young_SC Sparky no
Young_SC What are you talking about
Young_SC That makes no sense what you just stated
Young_SC LOP currency and then float it back up to a dollar lolol
Young_SC Come on man really?
Tebow Sergio yes, IMF only gives adviceice
Sparky Young_SC ...yup...
Young_SC My goodness you guys confused
Sergio All the Krap that these people come up with holds no water
Sparky Sergio ...IYO, what is our exit strategy ?
Sergio We hold pat. There is no harm in keeping what we got.
Sergio Things can change on a dime and as with anything could be for good or bad
Sparky Sergio ... wise words...
Sergio I bought in 2011 and still holding pat as you can see I check in here from time to time
Sparky Sergio ... I accumulate while I wait...
Sergio Sparky just don’t go to far lol
Sparky Sergio ... potentially better than Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple... combine...
Sergio Sparky yes but Amazon was a hard one to swallow when I could got it 10 bucks a share
Sparky Sergio ...yes...but we are in on this one...
Sergio I am in it to win it
Sparky Sergio ...got in in Bitcoin at $60...but lost it in e-coins platform...
Sparky Sergio ... I value your opinion, and thanks for sharing...
Zig Kaperoni : "Sergio" As some of those who know me on here, know I have spoken to the IMF and was told flat out that the currency rate of any country is in the hands of that counties central Bank"
Zig Comment??
Kaperoni Sergio generally speaking you are correct. But if you go back and read the documents from the last couple of years you will see that in late 2015 the IMF got involved with the CBI with some standby agreements do to Iraq's substantial debt.
As well Iraq was unable to maintain a stable exchange rate and the CBI agreed to give trusteeship to the IMF. So in essence the IMF is controlling the CBI.
And you will see subsequently many accomplishes have been made over the last 2 years as a result including a stable exchange rate within 2%, implementation of many banking mechanisms such as anti-money laundering, etc
Zig Thanks, Kap.....
Kaperoni People also need to realize the connection between the IMF the World Bank in the UN. They're all one entity with the UN being the oversight and when countries are members of the UN they agree as part of the charter to follow those subsequent directives.
Zig I know Sergio....if he says he has spoken to the IMF you can believe him....
Kaperoni Oh I'm sure he may have and technically he is correct that the IMF in their Article IV Consultations is only giving guidance. But with the agreement in late 2015 for trusteeship things changed with Iraq
Sparky Zig ...ok, cool...
Kaperoni It's very easy for these kinds of things to occur when you don't study it every single day and don't read every single document you miss out on a lot and so opinions come into play a lot more than facts. That is why I've told many many people that I read and study this every single day and I find it difficult that anyone knows more about it than I do and that's not an ego thing that's the truth ...who reads more than I do?
Sergio True in part Kap but it had a lot to do with the The Coalition Provisional Authority
Zig Sergio : Hey Serg....read my post above?.....I emailed Butter.....she is well....
Kaperoni Sergio explain
Zig "The Coalition Provisional Authority".......what is that exactly?
Kaperoni That's what I want to know. I know what it is but I want to know what Sergio thinks it is or how it relates to what we were talking about?
Sergio At that time Iraq just got sacked by the US there was really no one to run the country or The CBI. Remember the dictator controlled the CBI at the time. Now that he was gone the US had the controls of everything
Kaperoni Sergio Sergio that has nothing to do with 2015 when Iraq was in Dire Straits financially as a result of low oil prices and the CBI also having issues with maintaining stability ultimately signing an agreement with the IMF to turn over trusteeship
Sergio We decided for Iraq what was going to happen to their currency
Kaperoni You seem to be talking about two different things the CPA was involved in 2003 yes on the transition and the introduction of the Iraqi dinar. But your comments that I responded to we're talkin about the CBI and how the IMF doesn't have any control over them. And my statement simply was in 2015 that changed
Zig Kaperoni : Does the IMF have final say?.....or just strong "influence".....
Sergio The only reason the CBI is following The USA was to take out Isis because they were about to lose their country
Sergio Influence
Kaperoni Zig I can only go by the definition of trusteeship. Because that was the word that was used in the agreement
Kaperoni And subsequently if you look back over the last two years tremendous progress has been made within the banking system including the 2% compliance, the introduction of several banking reforms all things that Iraq seem to not be able to do on their own which were accomplished in very quick order
Zig One definition I found of trusteeship: "supervisory control"
Sparky Sergio ...Isis not until 2014, when Maliki created the chaos...after losing pm...
Sergio Kaperoni I am on a I phone and can not see right away what you are posting, plus I am a slow typer
Kaperoni Sparky keep in mind when oil prices dropped Iraq was unable to meet their budget. And they knew it. So they needed substantial loans to fill the Gap just so that they could pay their people and those loans came with conditions known as stand by agreements. The CBI also signed one at that time as well due to the reforms that were necessary with the banking system
Sergio Backing troops out put Iraq in danger
Kaperoni I wish I had more time but Zig had sent me a message telling me to comment so I did but I really have things to do this afternoon so I'm sorry this is an interesting topic but I can't participate anymore today have a good day everyone
Sergio Kaperoni thanks for the chat As always we wait
Sparky Kaperoni ...thanks Kap... enjoy the weekend...
Sparky Sergio ... thank you for very interesting input...
Sergio See you can have a opinion disagree and leave it at that.
IQD CALLS Chat Friday Night 10-11-19 Part 2 of 2
.IQD CALLS Chat Friday Night 10-11-19 Part 2 of 2
Kaperoni In order to shed light on the history Iraqi currency was hired to study integrated worked on writing the responsible engineer Mahmoud Shaker al-Rubaie, who was able to document the history of the dinar in this country since its inception and so far,
which stated: - Talking about the Iraqi currency and a broad and large is linked political circumstances unstable experienced by Iraq, which led to the entry foreign currency of the policy of the occupied country, when Iraq was under Ottoman control,
the (Majidi) is the currency traded in the deal has been named this currency rate to the Sultan Abdul Majeed's father Sultan Abdul Hamid, and parts Majidi is (Alaqچh and righteous ) and continued deal Ottoman Palmgide until the entry Englishmen in 1917 and extract the country from Ottoman control was introduced with the British (Indian Rupee) as an alternative currency in dealing and trading and parts (Anna) and usual that the new currency expel the old currency ..
So ended the trading currency Ottoman having entered wild Indian to the Iraqi market and the reason for making the trading Barabah Indian instead lb English due to most troops English territories are Indians Sikhs and Alkirkh.
Having crystallized when the British idea of a (Kingdom of) in Iraq and became talk about A boys Sharif Hussein to rise this task has happened in 23 / August / 1921 as crowned Faisal Ibn Sharif Hussein king of Iraq must be of this political shift that is reflected at all levels and to find him there in the currency change.
It began pumping Iraqi currency called a new (penny) and this word is out of Byzantine and consists of a small circle of copper in the middle category number and below the word fils and around the circle Kingdom of Iraq and on her right Hijri and to the left Gregorian date other side image of King Faisal I written on it King of Iraq on the right and Faisal I on the left.
Dave fils toooooo?
IQD CALLS Chat Friday Night 10-11-19 Part 2 of 2
Kaperoni In order to shed light on the history Iraqi currency was hired to study integrated worked on writing the responsible engineer Mahmoud Shaker al-Rubaie, who was able to document the history of the dinar in this country since its inception and so far,
which stated: - Talking about the Iraqi currency and a broad and large is linked political circumstances unstable experienced by Iraq, which led to the entry foreign currency of the policy of the occupied country, when Iraq was under Ottoman control,
the (Majidi) is the currency traded in the deal has been named this currency rate to the Sultan Abdul Majeed's father Sultan Abdul Hamid, and parts Majidi is (Alaqچh and righteous ) and continued deal Ottoman Palmgide until the entry Englishmen in 1917 and extract the country from Ottoman control was introduced with the British (Indian Rupee) as an alternative currency in dealing and trading and parts (Anna) and usual that the new currency expel the old currency ..
So ended the trading currency Ottoman having entered wild Indian to the Iraqi market and the reason for making the trading Barabah Indian instead lb English due to most troops English territories are Indians Sikhs and Alkirkh.
Having crystallized when the British idea of a (Kingdom of) in Iraq and became talk about A boys Sharif Hussein to rise this task has happened in 23 / August / 1921 as crowned Faisal Ibn Sharif Hussein king of Iraq must be of this political shift that is reflected at all levels and to find him there in the currency change.
It began pumping Iraqi currency called a new (penny) and this word is out of Byzantine and consists of a small circle of copper in the middle category number and below the word fils and around the circle Kingdom of Iraq and on her right Hijri and to the left Gregorian date other side image of King Faisal I written on it King of Iraq on the right and Faisal I on the left.
Dave fils toooooo?
Kaperoni With the passage of (Iraqi penny) continued (Indian Rupee) trading until the first of October 1932 deal was canceled.
After the issuance of (penny) issued a coin is (two mites) and with the same specifications penny but larger than a little then appeared (pubic), a four fils a reward currency English (brown),
one of the parts pound continued to issue categories in ascending appeared ten fils a copper then Twenty penny called (the Koran) and the dirham and equal to 50 fils after emerged percent fils then two hundred fils and called (Rial) and equivalent (shilling) currency English which is made of sterling silver and a picture of King Faisal I on the one hand and the other three palms engraved on the thick branch of a tree which large size relatively.
and ten years after the coronation of King Faisal I was established Iraq Currency Board in London in 1931 and a law 44 of the same year by which printed paper currency in the sixteenth of March 1932 saw the light first Iraqi dinars bearing an image of King Faisal I on right and the name Kingdom of Iraq at the top and category number in the middle which is written in English and the second in English,
where the company (Dollarroa) British print dinar also been printed in small denominations of paper (quarter and half) in India and began the Iraqi dinar expelled wild Indian, according to the rule referred to even end the deal in October 1932.
Kaperoni The Iraqi dinar equals 1,000 fils also been printed Order of five dinars and ten dinars and then was put carpaccio% Royal dinars.
Kaperoni With the development of political events, specifically on 26 / November / 1934 appeared new dinar He holds a picture of King Ghazi has happened after the departure of King Faisal I quickly changed this picture to be replaced by a picture of King Faisal II in late 1939, when the departure of King Ghazi.
Has Council continued the Iraq Currency printing Iraqi currency until the Act No. 43 of 47 and under which was established (National Bank of Iraq), and specifically on the twentieth of July 1947 to adopt Multi printed Iraqi currency and the existence of this bank has been dispensed currency board and its Abolition in 1949, and after several years, specifically in the first of July 1956 a law was passed 72 under which changed its name National Bank of Iraq to (CBI).
has not changed form the Iraqi currency and continued printing until the Republic of Iraq in 1958 and the emergence of leader Abdul Karim Kassem in his time occurred many amendments on the currency notes and coins
It raised the pictures of the three kings of all currencies were replaced (slogan Republican) new and in the eighth of July 1958 and get a lot of variables on a coin as canceled class (Filsin) and added fils to (pubic) to become (five fils) and Hausa popular salutes leader his work is (lived leader who Zaid pubic . fils ..) as well as canceled (the Koran),
a twenty fils replaced (twenty five fils) while retaining Dirhams and percent fils and cancel (Rial) which is equal to 200 fils, the terms of paper currency,
the class percent dinars were canceled and keep the rest of the categories of paper with the addition of symbols Iraqi her like (Palm filling Darbandikhan filling Dukan and Fort Phaenicia and Daura and waterfall entirely on your beacon humpback and Basrah silo and Helicobacter and bull winged and Lion of Babylon and ascend Kut and harp and obelisk of Hammurabi has changed shape currency only a slight change until the revolution of the seventeenth of July 1968 and began to raise the banner
Dave 1000 fils for that coke?
Kaperoni With the beginning of the eighties of the last century began to appear a coin to replace bank notes small Fezhrt 250 fils compared to quarter dinars and 500 fils, compared to half dinars and 1000 fils against the dinar also issued CBI alloy of gold to the categories (gold dinar and five dinars and ten dinars gold) and sold rate prevailing gold for a short period,
and in the mid-eighties of the last century began (feminine) size paper currency from quarter dinars and end Balashr dinars and more characteristic of this phase is the emergence of the Order of the ten dinars and has a picture of the world the great Hassan Ibn al-Haytham that Ohmt people that this currency is not Iraqi!!
With the deterioration of the political situation and falling exchange rate of the dinar against the dollar proceeded government to print new class bearing the number 25 dinars and on his face the first image of Arabian horses and the other side is for the coin was then put a picture of former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein instead of Arabian horses were printed this category in Russia.
Kaperoni At second of August 1990 got evolution in Iraqi politics overshadowed the dark on the country in general and the currency, especially by imposing (policy economic blockade) by America and its allies, which led to the disappearance of original currency for each category and the emergence of currency printed locally Bmtaba newspapers and journals which lean and devoid of controls applicable universally. . With advancing years siege increased print size and say the dinar exchange rate against the dollar even arrived in 1995 to 3000 dinars to the dollar, which produced tons of currency printed locally.
That monetary policy is losing its balance due (currency prosthetic) For the purpose of controlling inflation large began printing classes undefined earlier, such as the fifty and one hundred dinars, carrying a picture Unknown Soldier new Baghdad clock hand and a picture of former President Saddam Hussein from th
Kaperoni After more than thirteen years on the policy of blockade and the advent of the CPA and the occupation of the country by the United States and set the civil governor Paul Bremer, who began amending Iraqi laws as it deems is if adopted the Law on the Central Bank No. 73 of 2004 amended,
which provides for printing Iraqi currency new currency and rely on dinar Republican in terms of shape and change the category to be consistent with what the corresponding currency printed locally if adopted form quarter dinars to become 250 dinars and half becomes 500 dinars dinar becomes 1000 dinars,
as well as five and ten dinars become five thousand and ten thousand dinars with the introduction of class new (25000) dinars to absorb hyperinflation in cash which are of red dye was also an instrument of coins from class 100 dinars and 50 dinars and 25 dinars,
but has not been activated widely because of the conditions of inflation and price increases have begun replacing the currency from 01/10/2004 until 28/02/2005 and continuing currency trading referred to above to the present day and talk about the intention of the government remove three zeros from the Iraqi dinar to reach levels comparable with the exchange rates of foreign currencies dry Iraqi dinar back to glory and weighs a healthy beautiful green color.
http://www.nahrainnews.net/print.php?artclid=2277
Dave 1000 fils for a coke
biff I wish Iraq used the Kuwait model with 1/2 and 1/4 dollar notes.
biff along with fils
Kaperoni think that a good article long but good.
Zig Kaperoni : You are gonna cause an avalanche with all those long posts......lol.......
Dave would cost 70.00usd to mint enough fils to buy that coke
Kaperoni sorry long article. first paragraph key
Dave Kaperoni expensive coke yeh?
Kaperoni gotta go
biff lata Kap
Zig Dave : You're like a broken record.....LOL
Zig Fils.....skip.....Fils....skip.....wheel barrow.....skip.....wheel barrow.....skip.....skip.....
Dave Zig easiest question one could ever have to answer.....that i Have asked ........1000xs Never gets answered
Young_SC Kaperoni howcome you never answer Dave's question?
Dave Young_SC consider the size of those ATMs//
Dave sorry that I may be very simple.....but some understand my broken record.....wish i could get Kap to answer.....?
Zig Just kidding, Dave.....keep trying......LOL.....maybe if Kap and you just chatted alone without others you would get an answer.....
Dave could get into how hyper inflationary it would be with the release of the LDs considering the minting costs with no rate change......
Dave notes cost 3-5 cent each coins about double
Dave expensive coke?
Zig Dave : With no rate change they would not need those coins....nor LDs......right??
Dave Zig talking 3zeros gone LDs out
TWWIII Dave r the LD's out now
TWWIII Dave yea Dave itz me asking
Dave havent checked
TWWIII Zig my friend email today that there r a lot of uSA reserves here in the gulf now, a lot
Baxter TWWIII you mean troops?
Dave TWWIII Planning an invasion of Canada?
TWWIII Baxter Army, navy reserve troupes
Baxter nuttin in canada we want
TWWIII They are going thru Kuwait for briefings then being deployed from there to other gulf countries
Baxter oh..ok
TWWIII As I have said for yrs here, Kuwait is the key for the IQD
Zig TWWIII : How so??
TWWIII Look at Kuwait in 1991 & what they did with their currency
Dave TWWIII look at the UAE did in a few decades ......from nothing
TWWIII Yes Dave
Dave Iraq has soooo much more
Dave raw minerals gold sulferetc etc agriculture....
TWWIII More clients coming in the door, today is funding day L8TRS
Zig On a side note.....The irony is that I actually like XYZ.....and will miss her......lol
Dave Zig i guess i will have to step it up a notch then when Kap shows
JoeSchmoe do we have cause to be happy, excited, or down about this thing today?
JoeSchmoe just stagnant I gues.....
Dave protests on going........about time?
JoeSchmoe Dave yea, but mixed emotions around dinarhea about that being good or bad for us
Dave peeps want jobs and an end to corruption
JoeSchmoe what will that do for the increase in value tho
JoeSchmoe unless they are protesting wanting more wheelbarrows?
Dave Stability.......the polititcians make out like bandits and the peeps get squat
JoeSchmoe sounds like what we get too
Dave JoeSchmoe have AC?
Dave a job?
JoeSchmoe air conditioning?
JoeSchmoe oh them
Dave yes
Dave reliable electricity
JoeSchmoe ah well, gues since we aint pumped about dinar today, I'm out
Zig Dave : Let it go.....lol.....we will know what happens when it happens.....if it happens.....whatever may happen......then we will know who has guessed right...... ;chill
Dave Zig guessing what?
Zig Everyone is guessing exactly how this will turn out.....if you know I suggest selling everything you own and buy Dinar......
Dave Zig got into to this by what CBI had to say...........Not Kap!
Wilder From 5 years ago. Revaluation of Iraqi Dinar is Not Too Far: Kaperoni. http://www.iraqidinar123.com/revaluation-iraqi-dinar-far-kaperoni/
Crazycrypto ART OF THE DEAL: President Trump SURPRISE China Trade Deal Phase 1
Crazycrypto https://ytcropper.com/cropped/WW5da107158204c
Francis Albert making predictions is difficult, especially when it involves the future.
Crazycrypto talks have been near completed about foreign currency exchanges
Crazycrypto hmmm
Baxter Crazycrypto thats between china and the U S Im afraid
Crazycrypto no more manipulation from China?
Wilder Be careful what you should e er say. Cant hide from Mrs . Google
Crazycrypto i know that baxter
Crazycrypto just thought it was good news
Baxter I think it is good news
Crazycrypto also may play into the dong lets hope so
Baxter could be
Francis Albert All countries manipulate their currency. Value lowers when more is printed and value is raised when people have more confidence in the currency, which of course, has many factors affecting confidence.
Baxter I dont know how china gets away with it without going thru the IMF
Crazycrypto Francis doesnt make it right
Crazycrypto it seems many got too comfy with corruption
Francis Albert Baxter..good question. They own their own Central bank unlike U.S.
Crazycrypto now its coming to an end
Francis Albert Nothing right or wrong about manipulating currencies. It's all part of the game. All currencies are based on the dollar's price.
Crazycrypto anyways have a good evening seems deals have been finalized China caved in
Crazycrypto knew they would so did Trump
Francis Albert China doesn't have debt. They create Yuan when they go short Yuan. The U.S. borrows dollars from the private FED when they need cash.
Francis Albert FED announced they will be buying 60 Billion of U.S. debt per month, at least through March 2020. Why doesn't anyone ask "Why doesn't the UST just create the dollars rather than borrow them from a private banking cartel and owe interest?"
Zig Baxter : Kap said he believed it would RV when he first started in this.....before he researched it.....
Baxter Trump is going to louisiana tonight for a rally.... and the championship little league team for louisiana.... is on Air Force One with him.... can you imagine those kids.... wow
Francis Albert Well, if it goes on FOREX higher than the present rate, it will IMO trade up to $3.00 range fast. So, it's the same thing..just not as dramatic as a classic RV
Wilder Francis Albert when? We need to know.
Francis Albert And I believe that is the scenario we'll see. Could be wrong, but don't think I am
Francis Albert Wilder. Predicting is difficult when it involves the future
Francis Albert AT leas most in this room realizes the whole GCR, Republic, Gold backed stuff is non sense.
Francis Albert The most important thing I believe is work hard, cover your bases, take care of your family and expect the best.
Sparky Zig ... please tell me Z is not banned for more than a day... I really appreciate her...!
Baxter wow.. I missed that.... what happened now
sandyf @Kaperoni Egypt flooded their currency about a year-and-a-half ago under the guidance of the IMF and an article yesterday talked about how their GDP in Egypt is up to 6% as foreign investment continues to come in the result will be significant including the appreciation of their currency they are a good example even though they don't have anywhere near the oil Iraq has.
The question is - How long will it take Egypt to recover the 50% it lost overnight?
Egypt has floated its currency in a move that has reduced its value by almost 50% against the dollar.
One US dollar is buying around 14 Egyptian pounds, up from the nine Egyptian pounds the central bank was trying to keep it at.
The country's central bank said the move was one of a list of reforms designed to strengthen confidence in the economy.
Egypt's main stock index jumped by more than 8% on Thursday.
The central bank has also increased interest rates by 3 percentage points to 14.75%.
The move is a key requirement of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), from which Egypt is asking for a $12bn loan over three years. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-37857468
Portmagaland New York fines people $250 for saying illegal alien now.
Portmagaland https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/01/new-york-city-bans-use-illegal-alien-fines-259-k/3836672002/
Portmagaland People can be fined up to 250k Wow!
Portmagaland Tell me we aren't on the slippery slop to 1984
Portmagaland So, should I buy more currency tomorrow or silver? I'm leaning towards silver.
Sparky Portmagaland ...yes... IQD...imo...but, I'm just a pumper...
Sparky Portmagaland . . did you catch FrancisAlbert posts earlier ? ... good stuff...
Portmagaland Sparky Thsnks for the feedback, yeah, I've been watching Francis' posts and I like his vibe.
Portmagaland You see Iran let women go watch soccer for the first time in 40 years? Remember the movie with Bill Murray, What About Bob? Baby steps and Iran just made one.
Portmagaland Sparky I've had my differences with everyone in this room just about, she wasn't my favorite, but I dont agree with censorship. Just like I dont agree with NYC fining people up to 250k for speech. Sounds a lot like how China deals with HK and the NBA, no?
IQD CALLS Chat Friday Night 10-11-19 Part 1 of 2
. IQD CALLS Chat Friday Night 10-11-19 Part 1 of 2
Francis Albert Baxter, IMO while the Oil Credits may be, and I believe are, an important factor. If they are an illusion, then that leaves no real avenue for U.S. to profit from the war..which was the whole point.
And secondly, you may want to scroll up and look at some postings I did earlier about the banking system in general. All banks can and do monetize debt instruments. (create the dollars), and all currencies are debt instruments. So, if the banks so desired, they can make this work for Iraq with taking up to ten years for Iraq to pony up.
Baxter I believe the oil credits will go thru our government... maybe after ten years or so
Francis Albert If they are real, yes, they would end up the UST
Spankie Bush sr said it will pay for itself
Francis Albert Politicians say a lot of things LOL
Baxter yep for sure
spankie he meant something
spankie oil credits would be the only way to recoup losses
IQD CALLS Chat Friday Night 10-11-19 Part 1 of 2
Francis Albert Baxter, IMO while the Oil Credits may be, and I believe are, an important factor. If they are an illusion, then that leaves no real avenue for U.S. to profit from the war..which was the whole point.
And secondly, you may want to scroll up and look at some postings I did earlier about the banking system in general. All banks can and do monetize debt instruments. (create the dollars), and all currencies are debt instruments. So, if the banks so desired, they can make this work for Iraq with taking up to ten years for Iraq to pony up.
Baxter I believe the oil credits will go thru our government... maybe after ten years or so
Francis Albert If they are real, yes, they would end up the UST
Spankie Bush sr said it will pay for itself
Francis Albert Politicians say a lot of things LOL
Baxter yep for sure
spankie he meant something
spankie oil credits would be the only way to recoup losses
Baxter I agree spankie... about the only way they could ever pay for this
Francis Albert President Trump has been against the Iraq war quite publicly over the years. But, it will be easy enough for him to say...We've been working with Iraq the past few years to help them get back on their feet, so upping the value of their currency is being done with our help blah blah.
spankie right now they can sell everything to china but w oil credits---
Francis Albert Disagree. You all haven't looked at the earlier posts about banking in general, and the Dollar Inc people can pull this off with out blinking an eye and still fulfill their mission.
Francis Albert IMO the Oil Credits I believe are real, but if they are not...we'll there's always a way
spankie agreeing w u francis
Francis Albert thanks, but agreeing with me is not important. What may be valuable is to help others look at the big picture and possibilities. Things are not all black an white talking in a chat room
spankie well kaps lop makes sense tooo
Francis Albert Not to me. Who benefits? Not the invaders
spankie also .00086 to .86 makes more sense lop does nada
Francis Albert Right, and remember if they launch at .86 on Forex, a Dinar is still just a Dinar in Iraq and they just adjust prices.
spankie there is like 195 trillion yuan out there- numbers
Francis Albert And Iraq will always sell the most important asset, Oil, in dollars. Always
Francis Albert Wouldn't doubt it. About 30 Trillion Dollars
Francis Albert sorry...30 Trillion, our best guess, are circling the globe. 95% are digital.
spankie I think global there is about 250 tril in all currency
spankie derivitives going to pop the bubble gotta go - thx francis
Francis Albert Spankie, I've never been a crash a holic for the Dollar. Folks have been predicting the end of the Dollar for 50 years. IMO the only way it ends is if they run out of zeros.
Francis Albert great Spankie..my pleasure
Doug_W they can have a few from me 00000000000000000000000000
spankie lol- sorta like all those tracking #s at ups
Doug_W free too
Francis Albert Zim had so many zeros they ran out of paper LOL
Zig Baxter : What is PTR Dan, Gary, and crew saying these days?.....any minute?.....lol
Zig @Young_SC: I agree with you that most conference calls are a waste of time.....though entertaining......just opinions.....
Baxter Zig yep... they are really on the oil credit scenario......
Sam I Am spankie Bush never said the war would pay for itself. That's guru BS
Kaperoni Hi sam, zig
Sam I Am Hi Kap
Sam I Am Where's my pizza?
Kaperoni hmm nothing happen yet. so we wait. but today is a good day for a pizza :)
Zig Kaperoni : Are you sorry that you ever heard about the Dinar??.....lol
Sam I Am So is there no panic over the protests in Iraq?
Dave Sam I Am protests good.........
Sam I Am Dave how so?
Dave Sam I Am Try listening to DP call.......
Kaperoni Sam I Am Bush didn't but a member of US Senate Committee did..
Kaperoni https://www.foreign.senate.gov/hearings/iraq-the-challenging-transition-to-a-civilian-mission
Kaperoni 95 min mark
Dave Kaperoni now we are splitting hairs....
Dave what sanctioned country allowed to sell currency abroad?
Kaperoni Zig probably lol
Kaperoni Dave you talking about 13303? I wrote about that in 2013 I break down what it really means. worth reading...
Francis Albert Kaperoni, in your opinion what would the process look like, work etc. for IQD to post on Forex at a higher rate than they have now?
Kaperoni Executive Order 13303
Protecting the Development Fund for Iraq and Certain Other Property in Which Iraq Has An Interest
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2003/05/print/20030522-15.html
Part 1...
The first part is the order related to the DFI which must be renewed.
This order is the protection of Iraq’s money (known as the DFI fund) which is where all proceeds go from the sale of Iraqi assets such as petroleum and petroleum products, etc. The purpose of this order then allows the revenue to be used in an orderly reconstruction of Iraq, the restoration and maintenance of peace and security in the country.
This is scheduled to expire May 22nd 2013. Since this would expire, Iraq would have to be in a position to fully manage their financial obligations or fall risk to unresolved creditor and debts.
As an example, the Paris Club debt agreement with many countries totaling 100 billion in debt relief was conditional. In order for the debt to be forgiven, each country negotiated acceptable resolutions and terms with Iraq.
Much of this is known as “benchmarks” that Iraq must achieve to fulfill those obligations, thus granting the debt relief. Those terms were incorporated into the recent IMF Stand by Agreement that expired February 23rd, 2013 (after extension).
If Iraq failed to meet those “benchmarks” these funds could be at risk and subject to seizure once EO 13303 expires. This part of EO 13303 must be renewed every year until Iraq is self sufficient or risks asset seizure.
Part 2...
The second part of 13303 terminates previous Executive Orders (restrictions)
This part requires no review or extensions. It does not expire, and it would take another Executive Order to reinstate. This is the part that, as a result, gives US citizens the right to invest and do business in Iraq.
This order EO 13303 simply terminates three other orders… Executive Orders 12722, 12724, or 13290 that were already in effect pertaining to Iraq.
biff Kap I have investments in Iraq ( bank accounts ISX Brokerage Accounts) how this affect me with the 40 trillon in circulation. You seem to have knowledge about this subject. ;c-ball ;$$$
Kaperoni Part 2...
The second part of 13303 terminates previous Executive Orders (restrictions)
This part requires no review or extensions. It does not expire, and it would take another Executive Order to reinstate. This is the part that, as a result, gives US citizens the right to invest and do business in Iraq.
This order EO 13303 simply terminates three other orders… Executive Orders 12722, 12724, or 13290 that were already in effect pertaining to Iraq.
As a result, investment in the new Iraq is then guaranteed under the Presidential Order 13303 because it removed previous orders which were blocking investment and trade.
13303 in essence, by the termination of these three previous EO’s allows for a restructuring of the banking system in Iraq. And US citizens to invest in Currency, Stocks, Bonds, Real Estate and do Business in Iraq. This was a discrete and indirect way of lifting and canceling previous orders on Iraq giving each of you the right to own the New Iraqi Dinar.
Since Iraq is opening up to the global economy and integrating with the world, there is no need to consider or impose any such future orders limiting or preventing investment.
133303 terminated the following previous three Executive Orders…
Executive Orders 12722 – blocking iraqi government property and prohibiting transactions with iraq
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Documents/12722.pdf
Executive Orders 12724 – blocking iraqi government property and prohibiting transactions with iraq
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Documents/12724.pdf
Executive Orders 13290 – Confiscating and Vesting Certain Iraqi Property
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/WCPD-2003-03-24/pdf
Dave USA allowed Dinar to be trade-able abroad.....no other ch7 nation allowed to do so?
Francis Albert Those EO's memorialize what Countries do when they invade and take their stuff
Sam I Am Kaperoni I'm not hearing it
Dave Kaperoni doing research.......
Sam I Am nothing about the war paying for itself
Dave hear air force 1 is loaded with Dinar
Kaperoni well Sam it is there. Not listened to it in a long time but it there.
Kaperoni US Senate Committee Video Hearing: Iraq -The Challenging Transition to a Civilian Mission (states cost of war will be paid by Iraq @ 95 min mark)
Baxter TRUMP and CHINA have just tentatively agreed on a 50 billion dollar trade deal.... on fox news
biff Hey Kaperoni what happend to the guy on your Ernest ;pizza;
Francis Albert Kap, in your opinion, what would the scenario look like for investors if IQD goes in FOREX at a higher rate than today?
Sam I Am 95 minutes meaning 1 hr 25 min?
Sam I Am 35
Kaperoni Francis Albert my belief it would go on at whatever the current rate is and rise from there.
Kaperoni Sam I Am I assure you it is in there.
Dave Kaperoni lots of wheel barrows flooding the streets.....
Francis Albert What if they were to delete the zeros on the echange rate as CBI has said they are going to do?
Kaperoni Dave what are you talking about? Do you live in the world of nonsense?
Dave yes your world
Kaperoni xyz you should now too
Kaperoni lol
Sam I Am Kaperoni ahhh ... you're referring do Sen. Menendez (D)
Sam I Am he wasn't part of the Bush administration
Kaperoni I just bring the facts from documentation. you can do what you want with it.
Kaperoni Sam I Am yes
Dave wallets of wheelbarrows?
Kaperoni sam i didnt say he was..i said.. US Senate Committee
Dave easy question.....
Sam I Am Kaperoni right, but the other guy claimed Bush said that
Francis Albert KAP...CBI has talked about for years deleting the zeros off of the exchange rate. They could go on FOREX at .86 in that model
Sam I Am Francis Albert deleting zeros means LOP
Dave Sam I Am wheel barrows or wallets?
Francis Albert Not necessarily. Off of the exchange rate and currency are different in my understanding... Could be wrong.
Kaperoni I choose to think there is a couple different perspectives. One of which is a float and the other is parliament passing a law to LOP.
Dave Kaperoni wheel barrows or wallets?
Francis Albert Who would benefit from a LOP KAP?
Kaperoni Francis Albert If they LOP they reduce the money supply from trillions to billions and make the dinar similar to other world currencies without zeros
Dave Kaperoni wheel barrows or wallets
Kaperoni That being said, I think it also could have significant ramifications
Dave Kaperoni wheel barrows or wallets
Francis Albert Kap, Say the Dollar Inc. people would lOP the Dollar. Dollars with a zero or two are still currency that has to be honored.
Dave Kaperoni wheel barrows or wallets?
biff 1.20 kaperoni ;pizza;
Kaperoni Francis Albert Iraq benefits
Dave with wheel barrows lots of them? Kaperoni ?
Francis Albert See above post on Dollar please
Kaperoni Francis Albert hard to follow with these clowns in here
Dave 1000 of them fils for that coke?
biff Kaperoni I saw a document print out in 2005 in Kuwait from CBI. The printout had calculated that the Iraq Dinar would be revalued at 1.20.
Dave Francis Albert SAME easy question for how many yrs now?????
Francis Albert Sorry Dave, don't understand
Kaperoni biff not true. you are miss stating what was really said. I am sure the goal is to get to a dollar but nowhere did it ever say it would get there overnight
Dave LDs out.....no rate change....with fils .... Francis Albert 1000 Dinar for that Coke?
Dave Francis Albert oops
biff 750 fil for soda in kuwait
Kaperoni Alright i got to go. maybe another time. See ya all later.
Sam I Am biff They use a period where we use a comma. That article probably means a redenomination to 1.2 dinar to the dollar which would be about 86 cents
Zig It is indeed a problem when some just disrupt.....and others wish to chat......there is a better way to voice objections than to just spoil others' conversation attempts....wait until the conversation stops......
biff ok Kap
Dave 1000 dinar for a coke in IRAQ
biff If its a dollar inside of Iraq what will it be outside of Iraq 3.22 Kaperoni.
Dave Francis Albert easy question?
Kaperoni He is a great older article but the link don't work no more...
Kaperoni Reveal the intentions of raising the value of each Iraqi dinars to equal one dollar ---- Added by two rivers News
A source at the Central Bank of Iraq for four companies currently competing to win a draft print the new Iraqi dinar, which will generate graceful after deleting three zeros from him, while Samay central bank to raise the value of the dinar against the dollar gradually down to the day to start replacement where the value will be in the absence of a fluctuating one Iraqi dinars equivalent to U.S. dollars one.
Kaperoni The source said the bank and after remarking that blockbuster buy hard currency from the auction, which is supervised by the Central deliberately to sell the dollar worth less than the previous by 3.4 points, with the imposition of conditions buy to prevent the exploitation market meet the demands of neighboring countries,
which suffer from sanctions economic and devaluation of their national currencies, all of this to re-balance the local market, which saw the result of what male fluctuate rapidly in prices dinar,
adding that everyone knows that the central bank succeeded actually raise the value of the dinar is thoughtful and intelligent since 2003 until now that the price of the dollar equivalent to 240 dinars,
but now price tag rose to 1120 per dollar, and this is one of the most important tasks of the central bank, which is responsible for monetary policy in the country, and one of the most important endeavors is to raise the value of the national currency to achieve a higher purchasing power of the Iraqi citizen.
The Central Bank of Iraq announced, yesterday, doing the buying and selling dollar at 1166 dinars during the auction, which is evaluated daily with the participation of 23 banks, after it was sell it and buy it at the price of 1170 dinars to the dollar.
Kaperoni The deputy governor of the Central Bank of the appearance of Mohammed Saleh in statements to the media », that« the bank to work on raising the prices of the Iraqi dinar against the dollar during its sessions for the sale and purchase of foreign currency by four dinars and by 3.4% to reach to 1166 dinars to the dollar »,
indicating that« dinar nominal is not commensurate with the purchasing power to him or the real price of the exchange rate of the dinar against the dollar.
Saleh added that «the current account of payments Iraq where a large surplus relative to GDP and by 5-8%», stressing that «the surplus is the signal strength and not vice versa as well as the presence of large reserves of the Bank».
Saleh pointed out that «the dollar exchange rates in the Iraqi market which recently experienced a slight increase will be affected by the decision of the Central Bank of Iraq, saying that «the Iraqi dinar will be attractive in the Iraqi market.
The Deputy Governor of the Central Bank of the appearance of Mohammed Saleh earlier this year for efforts to obtain the approvals executive and legislative authority to ask three major categories after deleting three zeros from the Iraqi dinar, pointing out that the process of replacing the currency will take two years.
As Saleh announced in (January 6 2012) from higher reserves the Iraqi Central Bank foreign currency to $ 60 billion, for the first time in the history of Iraq, while stressing its ability to curb inflation if arrived at two places decimal places, considered that current levels do not raise anxiety.
Kaperoni Noteworthy that the CBI is being daily sessions for the sale and purchase of foreign currencies with the exception of public holidays during which depends on those auctions.
And Zkrmzar Mohammed Saleh, said that the size of the money supply, which will be printed soon consist of 28 30 billion dinars, with calculation of the currency in circulation now reaches more than 32 trillion dinars, and you measure the size of Limbering which dominated the national currency, and the size of the benefits that will befall this project where withdraw monetary inflation and reduce the amount of cash and other.
He revealed that the shape of the new currency would be like a mirror reflecting the history of Iraq and specifications will be even better than printing the dollar, and are impossible with falsified, and will be charged properties technical and aesthetic features of an Iraqi national tells the story of civilization and achievements since the dawn of history, as well as she would Arabic and Kurdish as the constitutional text on This addition to the English language as a global system in place in all countries of the world.
He said the groups would be equal between the metal and paper issued class (25, 50, 75 and 100) dinars metal and there are groups of 5, 10 and 25, 50 and 100 dinars paper.
Dave Kaperoni So.....wheelbarrows or wallets>?
IQD CALLS Chat Friday Afternoon 10-10-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Friday Afternoon 10-10-19
Larrykn Repercussions of Internet interruption .. Losses in millions of dollars a day
Economy , 2019/10/11 Baghdad - Iraq today: The ICT Platform released a statement on the economic implications of Internet service interruption in Iraq, urging the government to refrain from interrupting it and finding new technology solutions.
The Center said in its statement that the procedures of interrupting the Internet service in Iraq have had negative repercussions on more than one level. ”
Although there are no exact figures for Iraqi economic losses due to Internet interruption, they are estimated to be in the millions of dollars a day according to COST figures.
He pointed out that the Internet in Iraq is negatively affecting many economic and commercial sectors, including the subject of more than three million salaries. K-Card smart cards for their salaries, as well as about 1 million IDPs receiving government subsidies in the same way.
Many remittance companies, travel and tourism companies, and the retail sector, in addition to the damage of the business of small companies and individuals who rely on social media to promote and market their products.
IQD CALLS Chat Friday Afternoon 10-10-19
Larrykn Repercussions of Internet interruption .. Losses in millions of dollars a day
Economy , 2019/10/11 Baghdad - Iraq today: The ICT Platform released a statement on the economic implications of Internet service interruption in Iraq, urging the government to refrain from interrupting it and finding new technology solutions.
The Center said in its statement that the procedures of interrupting the Internet service in Iraq have had negative repercussions on more than one level. ”
Although there are no exact figures for Iraqi economic losses due to Internet interruption, they are estimated to be in the millions of dollars a day according to COST figures.
He pointed out that the Internet in Iraq is negatively affecting many economic and commercial sectors, including the subject of more than three million salaries. K-Card smart cards for their salaries, as well as about 1 million IDPs receiving government subsidies in the same way.
Many remittance companies, travel and tourism companies, and the retail sector, in addition to the damage of the business of small companies and individuals who rely on social media to promote and market their products. LINK
larrykn Over 60,000 Syrian Kurds Displaced by Turkish Offensive: Monitor
More than 60,000 Syrian Kurdish civilians have escaped their homes during the first 36 hours of a massive cross-border operation by the Turkish army and Ankara-backed ISIS a monitoring group said.
Turkey announced the operation on Wednesday, which aims at wiping out the Syrian Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG) from the border areas.
“Displacement continues from different parts of the eastern Euphrates region due to the Turkish military operation in the area, where the Syrian Observatory monitored the rise of the number of displaced to more than 60 thousand civilians within less than 36 hours, for fear of the Turkish military operation, as Al-Darbasiyah city and Ras Al-Ain city are almost empty of its inhabitants,” the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.
“Turkish forces bombed areas around the villages of Zuhairiyah and Jam Sharaf in the countryside of al-Malikiyah. Also, the SDF shot down a reconnaissance aircraft in the skies of “Qasr Deep” in Malikiyah countryside,” the report provided more details. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44247/Over-60-000-Syrian-Kurds-Displaced-by-Turkish-Offensive-Monitor
larrykn Turkish warplanes begin bombing northeast Syria
Turkish warplanes and artillery have begun shelling Syria’s predominantly Kurdish northeastern town of Serekaniye, Mustafa Bali, the spokesperson of the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), said on Wednesday.
A source in Serekaniye told The Baghdad Post that four warplanes are hovering over the town, and there is heavy artillery shelling the silos near the border.
According to local media, the Turkish warplanes are bombarding Safeh village, located five kilometers on the western outskirts of Serekaniye. It added that Turkish artillery shelled the Mahatta and Malla Darwish main streets in Serekaniye.
Waves of people in Serekaniye began to leave their homes on Wednesday to flee the Turkish shelling. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44224/Turkish-warplanes-begin-bombing-northeast-Syria
larrykn Halbousi says situations in Iraq 'dangerous'
Parliament Speaker Mohamed al-Halbousi has described the ongoing situations in Iraq as ‘dangerous’, amid protests that swept through the capital Baghdad and other provinces.
During the parliament session, Halbousi said “We are now at the crossroads. Either to be with the people who demand their rights, or stand with our interests.”
The parliament called for freezing the provincial councils and considering the victims of the protests as martyrs. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44221/Halbousi-says-situations-in-Iraq-dangerous
Matt Dow Jones Industrial Average INDEXDJX: .DJI 26,947.75 +451.08 (1.70%)^ Oct 11, 11:23 AM EDT ·
Francis Albert There are more "loose particles" that are ostensibly good arguments why Kap's opinion that 40 Trillion Dinar "out there" make it impossible for any significant up tick in IQD is not a show stopper. The main one is the argument I have posted that oil credits, which are not just guru non sense IMO, will soak up a bunch of Dollars/Dinar. Also 3 zero notes will have a 10 year shelf life and banks can manipulate how quickly they cash in.
Francis Albert Here's the thing. IMO Banks, all big banks that are owned by the Dollar Inc. Boys where at the top of the food chain to even do this "war" with Iraq. They drive the agenda for most things.
Remember these are the very same that run the IMF, World Bank, BIS and U.N. And the people they meet and sit with are also big players in defense etc. The people who love war.
Francis Albert So, on the Dinar and outstanding Dinar IMO the big banks want Iraq to succeed because they are in there with bases, protecting their oil and they are salivating over fertile land and water in Iraq.
They will do all they can to keep Iraq peaceful and yes, happy and financially successful. So, since banks just create money, money is not an issue for them. It is about control and protecting Dollar Inc.
Kaperoni I'm not worried about the dinar that's outside Iraq. Economic advisor Saleh stated many years ago that he wanted the dinar to be held as a hard currency around the world for a very long time.
So I don't think the dinar that's outside Iraq is ever planning to go back it'll end up in central banks. What concerns me is the abundance of dinar that's outside the Iraqi banking system that's still in Iraq, held and mattresses, under couches Etc that is currency the central bank is responsible for and it is in the trillions. Which makes any significant RV impossible.
Francis Albert Kap may be close to the 40 Trillion outstanding, I don't know..would not be surprised if that's accurate. But, you can't look at something in a vacuum. Who owns the notes? What is their agenda? It is like looking at an organ of the body without looking at the whole person
Francis Albert Ah...Kap...we finally meet. Hello Sir. Ah, I hear you. So, you are saying they could be Trillions upon trillions in Iraq stashed?
Kaperoni Not to mention an RV is Guru speak it's not how central banks do business and it's not monetary policy. It circumvents all of the tools that central banks use to control the stability of the financial system and would send the entire Financial system into chaos if any kind of significant RV occurred.
The IMF is very clear on floating currency as a tool to offset pressure created by significant investment. Egypt flooded their currency about a year-and-a-half ago under the guidance of the IMF and an article yesterday talked about how their GDP in Egypt is up to 6% as foreign investment continues to come in the result will be significant including the appreciation of their currency they are a good example even though they don't have anywhere near the oil Iraq has
Kaperoni I posted an article in here a couple of days ago that specifically had the numbers from the Central Bank of Iraq in excessive 40 trillion outside the banking system I don't know how much of that is in Iraq versus outside of Iraq but it clearly states it's outside the banking system
Francis Albert Agree, the idea of a bump from .00086 to $3.50 is not going to happen, because of what you just said. Have they not been sucking as many 000 notes out the last five years inside iraq? How can we conjecture that there's "too" many? We just don't know
Francis Albert Agree. and 40 Trillion is a reasonable number at the current value
Kaperoni Unfortunately this is just kind of a drive-by visit cuz I've got things to do but I'll try to come back later. The most important thing is that a significant RV is not only not possible oh, it's just not what central banks do because it contradicts the tools that they use control inflationary pressure.
Not to mention commissions Etc by buying and selling. Iraq is clearly working towards having an fx Market oh, there's been several articles in recent months about the progress being made that in itself should tell everyone that there won't be any significant RV.
Francis Albert So, what if the delete zeros on the exchange rate to say .87 and let traders trade it up from there?
Baxter I would not rule out the idea of oil credits either....especially since what went on with CHina just yesterday... these so called oil credits..are not immediate payment.. these oil credits will not be due for at least ten years.. maybe even up to 20...
Kaperoni Take care. Ill come back later
Francis Albert Yes Sir..indeed. To be continued....
Francis Albert Well, and that adds to my argument that these Countries will in some way make it doable for Iraq to deal with some increase. What's the point of bankrupting them?
Francis Albert It is possible that inside Iraq they will make up their own rules on cashing out 25,000 IQD notes. They have to have a workable plan for doing all the things they've done the past few years, all the announcements about the changes coming. They have a plan that will work for them.
Francis Albert Central Banks and governments make up new rule all the time. in 1933, Roosevelt says give me your gold ..it's against the law to own gold. We'll give you $20 in paper notes for your gold.
And at the same time people outside the Country cold exchange dollars for gold, up until Nixon closed the gold window in 1971
Francis Albert People brought in their gold, got $20 in paper. And some months later, they raised the price of gold to $35. Priceless.
Doug_W @Baxter what a great day here mid 80's light breeze NO humid full sun
biff Kap I have investments in Iraq ( bank accounts ISX Brokerage Accounts) how this affect me with the 40 trillon in circulation. You seem to have knowledge about this subject. ;c-ball ;$$$
Zig @Sam: Hi....any comments about above discussion??
Sam I Am Zig Hi. As you might imagine I disagree with Kap
Sam I Am and most everybody else here
Zig Sam I Am : What about what Francis Albert posted??
Zig Oil Credits??
Sam I Am Zig Including PA
Zig Francis Albert : Sam I Am is a well-known person in the Dinar Community who does not think this is a worthwhile venture......
Sam I Am The idea of revaluing to 85 cents is slightly less absurd than revaluing to $3
biff xyz I hope so
Sam I Am it's like saying you can flap your arms and fly to the moon as opposed to flapping your arms and flying to Mars
IQD CALLS Chat Early Friday 10-11-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Early Friday 10-11-19
sandyf Back in the early day many were optimistic about possibility of The IQD gaining value through reconstruction in Iraq. Even incompetence from the US administration and the death of the UN envoy Sergio Vieira de Mello did little to dampen the optimism and the years went by with only some small increase.
About 2009/10 along came the modern day gurus like Terryk and dinarland moved to fantasyland with talk of 3 dollars plus and the GCR. People should reflect on the timing of this, shortly after the financial crisis of 2008.
It is not out of the question that the financial crisis gave birth to a plan to restructure the global financial situation. Should such a plan exist it could be that over the years misinformation has been allowed into the pubic domain to satisfy a particular agenda.
I find it a bit strange that more aggressive steps have not been taken to shut down the speculation if it was doomed to failure in its entirety.
There may well be some return on the Iraqi dinar but one thing is for sure, it is not going to come from anything that Iraq does. The three zeros project is a redenomination and nothing more than a distraction in the bigger picture.
IQD CALLS Chat Early Friday 10-11-19
sandyf Back in the early day many were optimistic about possibility of The IQD gaining value through reconstruction in Iraq. Even incompetence from the US administration and the death of the UN envoy Sergio Vieira de Mello did little to dampen the optimism and the years went by with only some small increase.
About 2009/10 along came the modern day gurus like Terryk and dinarland moved to fantasyland with talk of 3 dollars plus and the GCR. People should reflect on the timing of this, shortly after the financial crisis of 2008.
It is not out of the question that the financial crisis gave birth to a plan to restructure the global financial situation. Should such a plan exist it could be that over the years misinformation has been allowed into the pubic domain to satisfy a particular agenda.
I find it a bit strange that more aggressive steps have not been taken to shut down the speculation if it was doomed to failure in its entirety.
There may well be some return on the Iraqi dinar but one thing is for sure, it is not going to come from anything that Iraq does. The three zeros project is a redenomination and nothing more than a distraction in the bigger picture.
Clay amazing how after all Iraq has been through they treat their people so poorly
Clay why the protests
Doug_W thus rioting in the streets
Clay cant blame them
Doug_W not 1 bit
Xyz Parliament votes on Suha Khalil as Minister of Education http://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=791736
xyz WoW impeached
Xyz 10-10-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni Article: "Finance Committee in the Iraqi Council of Representatives announced on Monday (19-August-2019) the government direction to reinstate the currency and delete zeros from paper currency in order to strengthen the national economy" You better hope that doesn't happen because they're talking about a lop it's clear as day..."I want to remove the zeros off the paper"...meaning lop them
Xyz ZIM update for GCR nutters ....
The Return Of Hyperinflation In Zimbabwe https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/return-hyperinflation-zimbabwe
xyz Donald to take down the Republican Party and the Clinton dynasty to destroy the Democratic Party. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/will-clintons-destroy-democratic-party
Larrykn Repercussions of Internet interruption .. Losses in millions of dollars a day
Economy , 2019/10/11 Baghdad - Iraq today: The ICT Platform released a statement on the economic implications of Internet service interruption in Iraq, urging the government to refrain from interrupting it and finding new technology solutions.
The Center said in its statement that the procedures of interrupting the Internet service in Iraq have had negative repercussions on more than one level. ”
Although there are no exact figures for Iraqi economic losses due to Internet interruption, they are estimated to be in the millions of dollars a day according to COST figures.
He pointed out that the Internet in Iraq is negatively affecting many economic and commercial sectors, including the subject of more than three million salaries. K-Card smart cards for their salaries, as well as about 1 million IDPs receiving government subsidies in the same way.
Many remittance companies, travel and tourism companies, and the retail sector, in addition to the damage of the business of small companies and individuals who rely on social media to promote and market their products.
larrykn Over 60,000 Syrian Kurds Displaced by Turkish Offensive: Monitor
More than 60,000 Syrian Kurdish civilians have escaped their homes during the first 36 hours of a massive cross-border operation by the Turkish army and Ankara-backed ISIS a monitoring group said.
Turkey announced the operation on Wednesday, which aims at wiping out the Syrian Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG) from the border areas.
“Displacement continues from different parts of the eastern Euphrates region due to the Turkish military operation in the area, where the Syrian Observatory monitored the rise of the number of displaced to more than 60 thousand civilians within less than 36 hours, for fear of the Turkish military operation, as Al-Darbasiyah city and Ras Al-Ain city are almost empty of its inhabitants,” the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.
“Turkish forces bombed areas around the villages of Zuhairiyah and Jam Sharaf in the countryside of al-Malikiyah. Also, the SDF shot down a reconnaissance aircraft in the skies of “Qasr Deep” in Malikiyah countryside,” the report provided more details. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44247/Over-60-000-Syrian-Kurds-Displaced-by-Turkish-Offensive-Monitor
larrykn Turkish warplanes begin bombing northeast Syria
Turkish warplanes and artillery have begun shelling Syria’s predominantly Kurdish northeastern town of Serekaniye, Mustafa Bali, the spokesperson of the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), said on Wednesday.
A source in Serekaniye told The Baghdad Post that four warplanes are hovering over the town, and there is heavy artillery shelling the silos near the border.
According to local media, the Turkish warplanes are bombarding Safeh village, located five kilometers on the western outskirts of Serekaniye. It added that Turkish artillery shelled the Mahatta and Malla Darwish main streets in Serekaniye.
Waves of people in Serekaniye began to leave their homes on Wednesday to flee the Turkish shelling. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44224/Turkish-warplanes-begin-bombing-northeast-Syria
larrykn Halbousi says situations in Iraq 'dangerous'
Parliament Speaker Mohamed al-Halbousi has described the ongoing situations in Iraq as ‘dangerous’, amid protests that swept through the capital Baghdad and other provinces.
During the parliament session, Halbousi said “We are now at the crossroads. Either to be with the people who demand their rights, or stand with our interests.”
The parliament called for freezing the provincial councils and considering the victims of the protests as martyrs. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44221/Halbousi-says-situations-in-Iraq-dangerous
IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 10-10-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 10-10-19
Chattels Abdul Mahdi announces a reshuffle and the date of submission of the names of special grades and positions
chattels The date of submission of the names of special grades and positions appears to be the last week of this month as best I can determine form reading the foregoing article.
chattels " ................ we will give before the twenty - fourth of the month , our listings to end grades ......."
chattels Abdul-Mahdi: We will issue a list of the top corrupt in the coming hours
chattels Hopefully the phrase " coming hours " bespeaks a time sooner than " coming days ".
chattels " Coming days " is now several years time.
chattels Protest investigation, job and housing reform tabled in emergency govt meeting: Iraq PM
chattels Iraqi PM Abdel-Mahdi: tomorrow, Parliament will vote on making ministerial changes, amending the constitution, & changing election laws. We want to make real reform. 10/9/2019 AM 11:34:05 a.m. http://mobp.as/zBoVp
IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 10-10-19
Chattels Abdul Mahdi announces a reshuffle and the date of submission of the names of special grades and positions
Release date:: 9/10/2019 21:56 https://alforatnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=214444
chattels The date of submission of the names of special grades and positions appears to be the last week of this month as best I can determine form reading the foregoing article.
chattels " ................ we will give before the twenty - fourth of the month , our listings to end grades ......."
chattels Abdul-Mahdi: We will issue a list of the top corrupt in the coming hours https://www.almirbad.com/detail.aspx?Jimare=27818&fbclid=IwAR2Vd-EFCSoBFAkgnl2SmRME6MoAdpLNODTb3aHQIDoJqe647ooaIOW1IPU
chattels Hopefully the phrase " coming hours " bespeaks a time sooner than " coming days ".
chattels " Coming days " is now several years time.
chattels Protest investigation, job and housing reform tabled in emergency govt meeting: Iraq PM
https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/10102019
chattels Iraqi PM Abdel-Mahdi: tomorrow, Parliament will vote on making ministerial changes, amending the constitution, & changing election laws. We want to make real reform. 10/9/2019 AM 11:34:05 a.m. http://mobp.as/zBoVp
chattels "There will be a vote on Thursday on cabinet reshuffles," he said
chattels Today, Thursday is the tomorrow according to Abdul-Mahdi. We shall see what Parliament does.
Chattels Joel Wing @JoelWing2 As soon as protests ended IS went back to work They've done this during previous demonstration periods https://twitter.com/JoelWing2
chattels Joel Wing @JoelWing2
PM Abdul Mahdi's speech: I never told anyone to shoot the protesters but now that approx 165 are dead I'll give you a few days to mourn while I talk about reforms that won't change anything https://twitter.com/JoelWing2
chattels Does Parliament have a quorum today ?
chattels Alliance / others: committed to boycott the sessions of parliament so far
Thursday 10 October 13:38 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=791677
chattels If there is a quorum it is difficult to vote on a " ghost cabinet."
House of Representatives: resumes of candidates for the reshuffle have not yet arrived
Thursday 10 October 14:16 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=791685
Doug_W Dinar Perspective Roundtable Pre-Recorded Call w/ Pat, Mark, and Bobby Replay https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com/wall/recorded_audio?audioRecordingUrl=https%3A%2F%2Frs0002.freeconferencecall.com%2Fstorage%2FsgetHD%2FD9RMW%2Fnxvt
chattels Scratch two. BAGHDAD / NINA / Al-Nasr bloc said that the ministers of transport and electricity are likely to be excluded from the new cabinet reshuffle that Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi intends to make, and that they will be replaced later by two new candidates.
https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=791681
chattels BAGHDAD / NINA / A parliamentary source revealed: "A ministerial reshuffle will soon include the ministries of agriculture, industry, health, transport and communications." https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=791657
chattels The central bank sells more than $ 114 million at a currency auction
Thursday 10 October 13:26 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=791670
chattels Considerably less volume than recent weeks. Whatever such may mean, if anything.
Chattels Iraq, China launch 'oil for reconstruction' agreement Salam Zidane October 10, 2019
chattels When Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi led a delegation to China in September, Baghdad and Beijing activated an "oil for reconstruction" and investment program. Under the arrangement, Chinese firms work in Iraq in exchange for 100,000 barrels per day.
Iraq has said it needs more than $88 billion to develop and mend its rickety infrastructure after three years of combating the Islamic State (IS).
Speaking to the press, Abdul Mahdi said that, including this new deal, about 20% of Iraq’s daily oil production is being exported to China.
xyz What IF the reshuffle auction with RV!
chattels Perhaps Iraq can avoid the OPEC limitations / quota through the foregoing deal ?
chattels Certainly is a different means of monetizing oil or bartering oil for desperately needed services that Iraq cannot arguably otherwise afford.
Doug_W its time 4 Iraq to put on it's "big boy" pants and step OUT
chattels The foregoing would appear to contradict the following post from Kaperoni. 10-8-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni Oil credits and reduced prices for oil is all... nonsense...Iraq could never sell oil in exchange at a reduced price...because the budget is 90% dependent on Iraq's oil exports.
Doug_W chattels its crazy what all is out there I sure wish we knew the truth
chattels Doug_W Ain't dat da truth ! :)
chattels And that's way that it is from the news that I read out of Iraq on this Thursday, October 10, 2019. Have a fine day all.
Clay cant believe Trump pulled troops out of Syria
Clay hes lost his freakin mind
Baxter yep.. he did
Clay the Kurds are gonna get slaughtered
Clay and 11,000 ISIS fighters are gonna escape
Baxter thats the bad part they ought to just shoot them
Clay coming here and Europe you bet
Clay I would
Clay why fight them again
Baxter i know
Clay and Turkey OMG
Clay big deal Trump will impose sanctions
Baxter we should have never gone into the Middle east anyways... you cant fight stupidity
Andrewetoldthem They wondering why Donald J Trump withdraw the troops from Syria Iraq and Etc....
Few Words: ARE YOU READY 4 THE RV!!!!!.............
Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump....IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY! We went to war under a false & now disproven premise, WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. There were NONE! Now we are slowly & carefully bringing our great soldiers & military home. Our focus is on the BIG PICTURE! THE USA IS GREATER THAN EVER BEFORE!
Andrewetoldthem REFORM RESTORE REVALUED TRIPLE R"S........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZooukaRJPI
Zig biff : Are you looking for trouble??.....lol..... ;oh;
Andrewetoldthem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZooukaRJPI
Andrewetoldthem Spirituality Reform Restore https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlmorl1Kg3o
Andrewetoldthem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlmorl1Kg3o
ARE WE READY FOR THIS REVALUATION (RV)!!!.......
# I GOT RICH ON THAT COUCH
Government of Iraq - الحكومة العراقية@IraqiGovtOther measures announced by @AdilAbdAlMahdi include:- Expediting the allocation of plots of land, free of charge, to low income groups - Instituting economic, social and public service reforms - Submitting a proposal to Parliament to reform the electoral system
Andrewetoldthem good morning i see dinar investor love frank 26 always got something to say about him
Zig @Sam: Hi.....so, how 'bout that "Oil Credits" scenario?.....we have heard that before......
Andrewetoldthem Clay thats why the troops are with drawing got the media going crazy again saying trump did just like obama trump bAD trump this but they dont know half of the story we do
biff Zig no Zig I used to go to his site. I almost signed up for the alert service for revaluation but I did not. Seem to be a good guy. ;sip
Andrewetoldthem Clay this video tells you the R.V. only suppose to take 2 years or 2 years in the half not more why you think since after the demonstration and the protest all youve been hearing about is reform
Andrewetoldthem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZooukaRJPI
Andrewetoldthem this video explain it all
Andrewetoldthem the time is now and its coming from the old president of the central bank of iraq 2
Andrewetoldthem everything is scripture couldn't tell you all until it was time 2
Andrewetoldthem everything is plan and i came and say it at the right time and when the troops are withdrawing to explain why
Andrewetoldthem i post my last 5 post before the R.V. ITS COMING FAST AND HOT THEY CALL IT RED OCTOBER
REMEMBER KUWAIT HAD REVALUED THEIR DINAR BKUZ OF THE WAR THEN NOW WE SEEKING 4 PEACE AND ITS POWER 2 GOD POWER 2 US AND POWER 2 HIS PEOPLE THEY NEED IT A REASON 2 SPEED FAST
and they got it and a day after i told you when the protest will stop and the riots trump tweet withdrawing the troops and the media went crazy on his decision
Zig Can't wait to be rich....it's coming according to Andre.....Yeah!!...... 'happy-dance
Andrewetoldthem Zig lol got to go not according to me according to god and the prophecy according to the great leaders and donald j trump All i did was give you the facts with proof bye now see your on the other side WE WILL RISE REFORM REVALUED RESTORE
Zig Andrewetoldthem : Bye....we hope you are right.....eventually someone will be right.....lol.....
Clay yep
IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Night 10-9-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Night 10-9-19
Wilder mod what are your thoughts on this? Surely you have sone opinions on this matter.
mod Wilder Anytthing is possible but not making it my plan A
Wilder Well that sure helped
mod It is always good to be diversified
Wilder Yep
mod I bought m first IQD in 2004 and did not look at it for years
Wilder About the same here.
Mod It's all speculation but at one time IQD was over $3 so that is what made some sense to me yrs back. I don't like vegas type gambling but did this.
Mod Zig LIke I always say anything is possible
IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Night 10-9-19
Wilder mod what are your thoughts on this? Surely you have sone opinions on this matter.
mod Wilder Anytthing is possible but not making it my plan A
Wilder Well that sure helped
mod It is always good to be diversified
Wilder Yep
mod I bought m first IQD in 2004 and did not look at it for years
Wilder About the same here.
Mod It's all speculation but at one time IQD was over $3 so that is what made some sense to me yrs back. I don't like vegas type gambling but did this.
Mod Zig LIke I always say anything is possible
Francis Albert Sounds like Kap was having a tussle here. Sorry I missed him. KIds, no need to get snarky about this stuff, we are just exchanging ideas. From the cheap seats in the bleachers it is clear that many who have been hanging on the "any day" for years, have a hard time even listening to contrarian ideas.
I believe that Iraq is certainly going to do something significant with their currency. Any one including Kap, who doubts that, simply is not, or doesn't want to pay attention.
Zig Francis Albert : Kap adds life to this room!!!.....LOL
Francis Albert I know...life is good
Francis Albert Now how it is all going to play out is up for fun talk
Francis Albert One of my key arguments of why I believe the banks/FED will monetize, (create dollars) for IQD is that is how UST will end up with them and exchange for cheap oil. Which, IMO, was and is the whole point of the invasion of Iraq. What's the point of invading if you don't take their stuff?
Xyz Zig he keep fighting me with 40 trillion --- and i do have numbers that don't agree with his. I could be wrong but hey ... this is a speculation --- Z is speculating that DOW is gonna be down tomorrow
Francis Albert What is his theories on float...could be lots of variances here?
Zig Francis Albert : Hopefully you and Kaperoni will be in the chat at the same time eventually to have a real time talk.......
Francis Albert I don't think the money supply matters in the whole scheme of things. USD has about, we can only conjecture, but I think this is close...30 Trillion floating around the World. So 40 Trillion Dinar at .00086 doesn't sound like ridiculous number.
xyz Francis Albert float by kaperoni definition --- gradual increase over time
Z claims that time factor is the key. Assuming that time is LESS than a day, then Z call it RV but Kaperoni that I am crazy and outta of my mind
mod I never bought reserves and only boought outright what I could afford to loose and did not get greedy with it
Zig mod : Same with me....
Wilder Francis Albert but if you take that at 3 to 1 then where are you wuth that?
Baxter Answer me this... there is about 2.7 trillion USD in the world... and the U S is over 22 Trillion in debt that we know of... so how could the USD be worth what it is now... if the money supply mattered
xyz mod Am a pure dinarian jejeje ...... did lots of those NAKED reserves and lost a lot. I enjoyed it though and I was always looking forward to the hour before it EXPIRED hahaha
Francis Albert Well, if it goes on Forex at any rate from .10 to .87 ( I think it will be .87) then it gets traded up from there by buyers and sellers.
xyz Used to stand by the window waiting for the FEDex haha
Francis Albert XYZ....Sir, you are way off at 2.7 Trillion. It is more like 30 Trillion. Just trust me on this. We don't know exact numbers as the discontinued publishing M1, M2 and L etc. about twenty years ago. Yet smart people, like mentor stayed on top of it.
Zig Francis Albert : Was Baxter, not Z
Baxter thats even worse
xyz Francis Albert check some of unusual stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiCv6KTJs50
Francis Albert U.S. has 22 Trillion in bonded debt. Money owed to investors in Treasures. From China to Ireland, private parties, pension funds, hedge funds, mom and pop, and The FED has a pile, the FED's books are open and you can see how much U.S. debt they hold.
xyz Francis Albert OMG I never claimed 2.7 trillion -- that's a lie
Francis Albert Sorry, mis read...Baxter stated 2.7 T my apologies
Baxter I thought I read thats what it was
Francis Albert Ah..no worries Baxter...lots of numbers, not a big deal, just thought I would correct so some kind of reliable info gets posted here.
xyz Baxter someone has to loose
Baxter not this bad
xyz Or a repeat is demanded
Wilder Francis Albert atleast you are positive about this. No ridiculous numbers either way. Thanks for your input
Francis Albert But, Baxter to your point of money supply and debt. The total debt of U.S. is about 40 trillion. Not a made up number....unfunded liabilities, all sorts of stuff. And the debt of the world in dollars far, far out weighs the dollars in circulation...that keeps its value up.
xyz @Tebow 10-9-2019 Intel/Newshound Gurus Frank26 & Walkingstick ...Notice there has been no effect on the Iraqi dinar exchange rate due to the protesting. Not one pip movement of the Iraqi dinar exchange rate. Because it is not unstable. It is not off track. It is a process moving forward and I'm excited about Monday [October 14th].
Wilder How much U.S. currency is in circulation?
There was approximately $1.70 trillion in circulation as of January 31, 2019. This figure includes Federal Reserve notes ($1,655.2 billion), U.S. notes ($0.2 billion), currency no longer issued ($0.2 billion), and coins outstanding ($47.2 billion). https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12773.htm
Baxter Wilder thats less than I thought... thx... thought it was 2.7... well at least its not 22 trillion
Wilder However. Put debt with that figure. What's rhe difference. Other than not a physical trade out
Francis Albert Right...I saw that. 1.7 Trillion in paper currency. about 95% of dollars are digital.
Wilder Francis Albert I agree
Xyz Francis Albert How much U.S. currency is in circulation?
There was approximately $1.70 trillion in circulation as of January 31, 2019. This figure includes Federal Reserve notes ($1,655.2 billion), U.S. notes ($0.2 billion), currency no longer issued ($0.2 billion), and coins outstanding ($47.2 billion). https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12773.htm
Francis Albert So, if you want some homework. Do the math on what 1.7 Trillion is 5% of what number and that will give you a close count of total dollars in circulation. The 5% in paper is about the World's average of paper to digital.
Francis Albert Xyz...best estimate about 30 Trillion
Wilder Just go to iraq and marry one of them and cash out.
Sparky ...bet Kurds are ** their pants...
Sparky ...best make up with central government... else...they cash their ticket...imo...
Wilder It's a ness over there . always has been.
Sparky Wilder ...like herding cats...
Sparky Wilder ... I personally like Israeli play now...with Suadi... eradicate the head of the snake...
Sparky ...Turks about to run over Kurds...if they play their cards wrong...imo...
Wilder Still won't change. We know hiw it's going to end. Just kicking the can till it crushes.
Sparky Wilder ...lots of pressure on Iran...
Sparky Wilder ... now we put pressure on Kurdistan...to smarten up...and play nice..
Sparky Wilder ...idle threat by Trump...imo...
Sparky Wilder ... militarily sound location...we don't leave... building more bases...
Wilder Thought we were pulling out
Sparky Wilder ...idle threat...imo...he would make to be more stupid, than even I give him credit...
Sparky *have
Wilder Brb. Plbg call
Zig I sent a message to the owner (Brandon) of Dinar Alert where Kaperoni posts............here is his reply: "I have taken over the website about a year-and-a-half ago for my father who passed away... He started the website 10 years ago... Not interested in any other sites but this is my website now... Kaperoni is a mod here only." "Brandon"
Sparky ...Iraq finally figuring out they can make more from gas...?... instead of flaring...
Sparky Zig ... thanks Zig...not news to me...but, nice clarification...
Sparky ...Kap makes zero dollars from DA...imo...
Whitelions Abdul Mahdi announces a reshuffle and the date of submission of the names of special grades and positions http://www.theiqdteam.com/
Sparky Whitelions ... listened and note count...hard to reconcile 43 Trillion dinar...to USD... impossible...
Sparky Whitelions ...at 1:1...
Tebow Sparky so basically any guru can tell you something and you'll believe him
Whitelions Sparky but how do you know he is telling the truth when the CBI said so different than what he tells you on so meny points
Whitelions Sparky ok what do you think 1 to 1 means ?
Sparky Whitelions ...IYO...how much IQD in circulation ?
Sparky Whitelions 1 IQD : 1 USD...
Whitelions Sparky I dontknow or care this is a exchange only and we as privet people have 2 years to turn in where as the banks of the world have 10 years ether Iraq can ask the banks to turn in as they need or the banks can turn in as the rate changes at a penny or 2 we will take our dinar to the banks and they will deal with the cbi from there .so you think 1 to 1 is a dollar or 3.65 witch is the going rate for the dollar ?
Dave thought banks held foreign currencies
Sparky Whitelions ... hopefully the later...as I don't know sh it...
Whitelions Sparky you have not explained how you know he is telling you the truth
Sparky Whitelions ...good reason for that... I don't...
Whitelions Sparky but we do know the CBI has told us how they will handle the dinar its on their web site
Dave like your bank is going to exchange for cash
Whitelions Dave for the banks of the world yes for us and all the people taking it to the banks 2 years
Sparky Whitelions CBI has said several things over the years...
Dave yes numerous times no float
Whitelions Sparky it's in writing you have been listing to gurus to long tell a lie long enough and people will believe it thats what gurus count on
Tebow Dave what?
Dave Tebow cbi.....
Dave nyet!
Dave to float
Tebow Dave yep
Sparky Whitelions ...lol...you said gurus...
xyz Whitelions 10-9-2019 Intel Guru MarkZ [How long will we have to exchange?] I understand we will have about 10 days to make our appointments and about 30 days to do our exchanges
Sparky Whitelions ...10 years banks... probably always good if taken to the source...even 50's..
Whitelions Sparky yes I did I'mnot a guru no matter what some call me because I dont care what you think I dont want followers I just post the news and give you and others a chance to deside for your selfs with out spin .
Sparky Whitelions ... however, do like your thoughts of close to ports of Kuwait value...for importation...
Sparky Whitelions ... just a big stretch...to support and sustain...
Sparky ... absolutely no necessity to persuade me... I m all in... catch the wave...no difference how we get there...
Dave Sparky no Tsumami for you!
Whitelions Sparky this is really close the demastrations have set it back a little the ports are set so dont worry about them ,we see more the the avriage iraqi on the street they are to busy trying to sivervie to watch what is happening in the banking system or what the gov. is doing to improve there lives thats why you are seeing them protest if they had waited a little longer it would have been different Trump pulling our troupes may push it he did it because Iraq told him to shove it where Iran is conserend so he started kaouse in Turkey
Sparky ... I figure I'll at least triple my investment...
Whitelions Sparky I agree
Dave almost doubled mine.....
Dave thanka to cdn crashing
Dave thats with no rv......
Tebow Whitelions anyone ever said you write like Andre
Sparky Whitelions ... appreciate your last post...
xyz Tebow yes you just said it
Whitelions Tebow I dont dought it my spelling is so bad and at this time aof night its worse cocktails are no help lol
Dinar Perspective Roundtable Pre-Recorded Call w/ Pat, Mark, and Bobby Replay LINK 49 mins
IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Evening 10-9-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Evening 10-9-19
Dinar Perspective Roundtable Pre-Recorded Call w/ Pat, Mark, and Bobby Replay 49 mins
Portmagaland Just got done listening to Silver Doctors podcast and they were saying on Monday that China is going to be allowed to play in the COMEX sandbox regarding gold futures.
Sounds like China will be to gold what JP Morgan is to silver. They will manipulate the price and make tons of money when gold goes up and when gold goes down. Those of us who think we will get a fair shake before we die live in fantasyland apparently.
Baxter Portmagaland I can believe that
Portmagaland Baxter So, let's see how China opens up on the COMEX Monday. It'll be interesting.
Baxter I was born poor... looks like I will die poor the same way..
Doug_Walso DP did a call yesterday link shortly (USA short not iraq)
IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Evening 10-9-19
Dinar Perspective Roundtable Pre-Recorded Call w/ Pat, Mark, and Bobby Replay LINK 49 mins
Portmagaland Just got done listening to Silver Doctors podcast and they were saying on Monday that China is going to be allowed to play in the COMEX sandbox regarding gold futures.
Sounds like China will be to gold what JP Morgan is to silver. They will manipulate the price and make tons of money when gold goes up and when gold goes down. Those of us who think we will get a fair shake before we die live in fantasyland apparently.
Baxter Portmagaland I can believe that
Portmagaland Baxter So, let's see how China opens up on the COMEX Monday. It'll be interesting.
Baxter I was born poor... looks like I will die poor the same way..
Doug_Walso DP did a call yesterday link shortly (USA short not iraq) LINK
Baxter yeh.. bring it in
Portmagaland I used to listen to TNT long time ago and they always had the same staged callers. Sounded more like a sitcom with paid actors than a real informative news show.
Portmagaland Baxter Me too dying poor.
Baxter kids today dont know what a dollar is... thats for sure
Baxter its sad...
Portmagaland Baxter Eventually, they'll find out, join Antifa and riot on the streets just like Iraq.
Portmagaland Ok, back to work. Just wanted to share the China joint the Comex on Monday and as they say in China, bu hao, not good.
Kaperoni Young_SC if you're going to quote me at least quote me accurately. If they Lop which is a neutral event it'll reduce the money supply from trillions to billions in the physical zeros will be removed so what 25,000 note will become 25. They can float the dinar after that and it can appreciate in value.
Some believe it could rise to 2 or 3 to 1. That is what I said. But I'm hoping that Parliament doesn't get involved in pass a law executing such an event
Kaperoni My believe still is that they will just simply float the dinar from 1190 and if the investment comes in to create a market economy / private sector the CBI can allow the currency to rise as pressure is created through the financial system from the influx of capital. This would allow a much more substantial gain.
But it wouldn't happen overnight like I've said before there is no such thing as an RV for the Iraqi dinar You're simply is too much currency in circulation for such an overnight event to occur
Kaperoni There is simply too much currency in circulation. As already stated in the article I posted a couple of times here there's an excessive 40 trillion
Kaperoni In excess of 40 trillion dinar outside the banking system
Kaperoni Okay I'm out of here have a good day
Young_SC Kaperoni hello
Young_SC The "Finance Committee in the Iraqi Council of Representatives announced on Monday (19-August-2019) the" government direction to reinstate the currency and delete zeros from paper currency in order to strengthen the national economy
Young_SC https://www.mawazin.net/Details.aspx?Jimare=61023
Young_SC Kap take a look and enjoy an ice cream ;ice-cream;
Young_SC In addition to the results achieved on the scope of monetary policy applications internally and convince global financial organizations, the most important official reports issued by them confirmed the success of the policy of the Central Bank to achieve an important transition to the Iraqi economy and achieve stability in the exchange rate and the recovery of the Iraqi dinar and raise its purchasing power, one of the objectives of strengthening the economy.
Young_SC http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17644
Clay still too much in circulation omg
Doug_W Clay amt in cir means nothing IMO
Clay agree
Doug_W look how much USD is "out there"
Clay thats my point
Clay yep
Doug_W electronig money now
Baxter Turkey is invading Syria... which is Iraqs neighbor... not good... not good at all
Baxter there goes my DIMES
Clay they want to destroy the kurds
Dave Abdul Mahdi: We will issue a list of the top corrupt in the coming hours
October 9, 2019 Walter Policy, security and economy
Dave we shall see....maybe?
spankie M should be top-- #1
Dave yep followed by Allawi....Naijafi talabanis on and on
Dave "where did you get that?"
Dave richest politicians in the world.....
Dave fingers crossed
Kaperoni9 Oct 19, 02:43 PM Young_SC The "Finance Committee in the Iraqi Council of Representatives announced on Monday (19-August-2019) the" government direction to reinstate the currency and delete zeros from paper currency in order to strengthen the national economy
Baxter Hi Kap...
Kaperoni You better hope that doesn't happen because they're talking about a lop it's clear as day I want to remove the zeros off the paper meaning lop them
Wilder Kaperoni when?
Baxter Kap... I am about to the point... I really dont care anymore... I just want to know..
Kaperoni Xyz you think the number of dinar outside the banks that exceed 40 trillion is a lie? Lol it is confirmed by the imf as well as thw cbi's independent auditor. Why would they all lie? Lol
Kaperoni Baxter Know what?
Xyz Kaperoni you numbers are distorted and without merits
Wilder Who can prove any different.
Baxter whether its going to lop..or be worth something
Kaperoni Xyz i posted yesterday the numbers. They are the facts
xyz Kaperoni nope and I read all of your writing ... I got tied of FACTS that have not be proven.
Kaperoni Baxter.. my hope is the CBI is going to follow the directive of the IMF in float the currency and allow it to gradually rise based on the influx of capital as a result of significant investment to create a market economy.
But as a backup it seems that Parliament wants to pass a law to Simply lock the zeros off the notes and create a one-to-one exchange rate, as well as reducing the currency from trillions to billions.
I believe that would have significant impact on there economic potential if they executed such an event. But it seems like it is possible because they continue to talk about it. But I assure you if Parliament gets involved that's what they will do
Baxter thx Kap
Xyz Kaperoni stating and restating 'something' doesn't make it.
Kaperoni Lop not lock
Kaperoni Xyz you find another credible source then and prove its not in excess of 40 trillion
xyz Kaperoni do US all a favor -- always prove anything you claim as a fact.
Kaperoni I already did. I dont repeat myself
Kaperoni That facts are clear.
Kaperoni Go back to yesterday and read my post
Kaperoni We have to hope iraq succeeds in launching this market economy.
xyz Kaperoni If I were you, would stick with FLOATing theory and leave FACT alone
Kaperoni Whatever xyz. These organizations dont lie. You just dont want to accept it. Well thats fine. Dream away on your rv lol
xyz Kaperoni I wish you were open minded as I believe you are a smart guru unlike hammerman
Kaperoni I think i have signifcantly researched this for 10 years. I think I know a little bit more than you on the subject
xyz Kaperoni Really? wow kap ...
xyz Kaperoni and I for 8yrs
Kaperoni Sitting out here in chat rooms and not reading every single piece of material available doesn't mean crap. I spend all of my time reading every document I can find I am probably the most knowledgeable person on this investment in the dinar community whether you want to believe that or not I've read more material than anyone else I'm sure of that
Xyz Kaperoni unlike you, I don't inject my person opinion and demand others take it as facts.
xyz Kaperoni reading and intelligently interpreting are totally different
Kaperoni I've always said to anyone to prove anything that they can and I'm more than willing to listen but so far all I've seen it in this chat room if people bringing me articles that are talking about a lop
xyz Kaperoni proving is left to those with big mouth that want everyone else to believe them.
Kaperoni Lol
xyz Kaperoni no?
Kaperoni People want the truth. They want the facts. They dont want your bs
Wilder Baxter Flip your dime. kaps is heads xyz tails for who is right.
Kaperoni You can sit here all day and dream about your magical RV that will never happen because it's not how monetary policy works for one thing and it's total BS from the guru's for another
Kaperoni Once you realize that you'll realize in there must be something else that's going to occur and then maybe you'll start reading instead of making up crap and insulting people that have nothing to do with another website
xyz Kaperoni what's truth? HYPOTHESIS: earth is cubic. Prove otherwise
Doug_W @Baxter here ya go Pal
Wilder mod what are your thoughts on this? Surely you have sone opinions on this matter.
mod Wilder Anytthing is possible but not making it my plan A
Wilder Well that sure helped
mod It is always good to be diversified
Wilder Yep
mod I bought m first IQD in 2004 and did not look at it for years
Wilder About the same here.
Mod It's all speculation but at one time IQD was over $3 so that is what made some sense to me yrs back. I don't like vegas type gambling but did this.
IQD CALLS Chat Early Wednesday 10-9-19
IQD CALLS Chat Early Wednesday 10-9-19
chattels Iraq Parliament votes on laws to address protest demands: 1) work of provincial councils ended, district & local councils canceled; 2) financial grants for unemployed; 3) financial grants for students & poor; 4) compensation for protest victims; & more.
chattels Iraqi official numbers put protest victims at 110 killed & more than 6000 injured. MP from Nasr Coalition says these numbers are not accurate. In visit to one hospital alone there were 100 killed.
chattels Iraqi PM Abdel-Mahdi’s office says an agreement has been reached with protest coordinators to suspend protests until after Arba’iin visits on 20 October. Protest demands include resignation of PM.
IQD CALLS Chat Early Wednesday 10-9-19
chattels Iraq Parliament votes on laws to address protest demands: 1) work of provincial councils ended, district & local councils canceled; 2) financial grants for unemployed; 3) financial grants for students & poor; 4) compensation for protest victims; & more. http://mobp.as/DC4Up
chattels Iraqi official numbers put protest victims at 110 killed & more than 6000 injured. MP from Nasr Coalition says these numbers are not accurate. In visit to one hospital alone there were 100 killed. https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/middleeast/iraq/081020197
chattels Iraqi PM Abdel-Mahdi’s office says an agreement has been reached with protest coordinators to suspend protests until after Arba’iin visits on 20 October. Protest demands include resignation of PM. http://mobp.as/G45Up
chattels When is Arbaeen? Arbaeen is a national holiday in Iran.
It is observed on Safar 20 or 21, the 40th day after Ashura, the martyrdom anniversary of Imam Hussein, the grandson of Prophet Mohammad, in 680 AD.
History of Arbaeen -- Arbaeen is one of the most important ceremonies in the Shi'ite Muslim calendar.
Arbaeen, means forty in Arabic as forty days is the traditional length of mourning after the death of a family member or loved one in Muslim traditions.
Imam Hussein was killed at the Battle of Karbala in central Iraq on 10 October 680 AD.
Around 20 million pilgrims will gather in Karbala on Arbaeen, making it the world’s largest annual human gathering. Many of the pilgrims travel barefooted from across Iraq and more than 50 countries.
chattels Arba'een Pilgrimage HTTPS://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arba%27een_Pilgrimage
chattels Arba'een 2019 will begin in the evening of Saturday, October 19 and ends in the evening of Sunday, October 20 Dates may vary.
chattels tman23 Hello. Any reason to be hopeful about any return on our investment in the IQD according to your sources ?
chattels Near term, longer term, never - ever term ?
chattels Tens of Iraqis begin to request unemployment grants which Iraqi Parliament approved today. https://twitter.com/DavidMWitty1?lang=en&lang=en
chattels Arguably just another form of payout / payoff to a limited class or segment of Iraqi society.
chattels Pompeo laments 'tragic loss' of Iraq protester lives, urges Baghdad’s ‘maximum restraint’
chattels Tuesday, October 8, 2019 Are Iraq’s Protests Coming To An End?
Pres Salah gave speech condemning violence against protesters and offering more promises of reform (Al Mirbad)
http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/10/are-iraqs-protests-coming-to-end.html
chattels Iraqi politicians continued to be out of touch with the seriousness of the situation. President Barham Salah gave a speech where he said that the shooting of protesters was unacceptable and an investigation would be launched Then he promised reforms like fighting corruption, which is what officials have been saying for years now with no follow up ever happening.
Even worse, National Security Adviser Falah Fayad claimed that the demonstrations were part of a plot to bring down the government, which had failed. He said the perpetrators would be punished. This mirrored comments made in Iran about enemies of the two countries leading the demonstrations.
Finally, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo called the prime minister and said that that Washington believed in the government and the Iraqi forces. President Salah was the first high official to criticize the security forces for gunning down people in the streets. The rest of his remarks were empty promises.
Security Adviser Fayad repeated rhetoric made last year about the riots in southern Iraq, which attempted to discredit the popular discontent by claiming they were being manipulated. Finally, Secretary of State Pompeo was basically supporting the government’s repression.
This was a revolutionary moment, where popular anger boiled over, made worse by the shootings by the state. It leaves the future of Iraq largely up in the air. What will happen with the upcoming provincial elections? What kind of credibility will the government have?
Will anyone listen to the prime minister after some leaders like Moqatda al-Sadr and Haidar Abadi came out for his removal? Abdul Mahdi was already seen as being ineffective. His standing has dropped to as low as it can go right now. Yet, the Iraqi political system continues with all of its institutional deficiencies as if killing over 100 of its own people was no big deal.
chattels " This was a revolutionary moment, where popular anger boiled over, made worse by the shootings by the state. It leaves the future of Iraq largely up in the air.
chattels ................ the Iraqi political system continues with all of its institutional deficiencies ..............."
chattels Joel Wing @JoelWing2
Parliament met today and voted on a number of measures like suspending provincial councils Setting up jobless fund Would take actual legislation to go into effect Comes too little too late & shows business as usual Govt handouts https://twitter.com/JoelWing2
chattels " business as usual Govt handouts "
chattels See above .............. Tens of Iraqis begin to request unemployment grants which Iraqi Parliament approved today. https://twitter.com/DavidMWitty1?lang=en&lang=en
chattels Arguably just another form of payout / payoff to a limited class or segment of Iraqi society.
chattels Joel Wing @JoelWing2 Massive govt repression huge loss of life and wounded Cutting off Internet to stop organizing might have finally silenced the Iraqi streets https://twitter.com/JoelWing2
chattels https://twitter.com/JoelWing2
chattels Reidar Visser posted for the first time in months. See Reidar Visser https://twitter.com/reidarvisser
chattels To wit : Thread on continuing protests in #Iraq which in terms of casualties seem to be some of the most serious spontaneous grassroots protest against the post-2003 order so far
chattels Many of the grievances of the #Iraq activists concern chronic problems in the post-2003 period like unemployment, bad public services and housing problems. The problem of party loyalists getting jobs at expense of professionals have come to the fore repeatedly lately.
chattels There's talk about "changing the system" in #Iraq but it's noteworthy that the current problems of political party quota-sharing is not really dictated by the Iraqi constitution and a revised constitution would likely not prevent a determined elite from persisting with it
chattels In Sept 2018 during similarly themed protests more locally in Basra, the established parties decided PM Abadi would have to go whereas they came up with some younger figures in the new cabinet to placate the clergy's demand for "new faces".
chattels This year the Shia clergy in Iraq has demanded a "committee" (in order to be seen to be doing something); the Fatah coalition has said it might look into that (in order to be seen to be listening to the clergy). The committee may never be seated or never get to have any influence
chattels Even talk of fresh elections in #Iraq is predicated on an initiative either by PM + prez or third of MPs, then absolute majority of current parliament voting to lose their own jobs. Unrealistic perhaps.
chattels Maybe a more realistic ambition of #Iraq protests would be to vote out the established parties in the forthcoming scheduled local elections in April 2020.
chattels Many events in Iraq seem cyclical and repetitive. Increasingly at the end of the day, everyday, Iraq is a failed state and society. I fear that we have and continue to waste our time and treasure on a false illusion, a mythical monetary event.
chattels Positive illusion can be a force that sustains us or deceives us.
chattels Will it be laurels for us as survivors and victors in the end or laughs for us as foolish participants ?
chattels Tune in tomorrow, and the next day and the next.
Baxter this is gonna be a long month..and Nov will be worse...
Doug_W it is totally baffling why they have not done this YET
JoeSchmoe Doug_W done what?
Doug_W increased value
JoeSchmoe Doug_W doesn't booby give all you guys at Dinar Perspective a good way to think about it,albeit not fun?
JoeSchmoe isn't he always saying it will be yet a long while away?
JoeSchmoe I think you should invite him over to this chat, and see how he fares with tebow and co
Doug_W JoeSchmoe that's OK I happen to like Bobby thank you
JoeSchmoe imo, he is just like kap and sam. They are right until this happens. So they would rather be right until this happens, instead of being wrong until this happens like other gurus
JoeSchmoe because in the end, who will care who is right or wrong
JoeSchmoe was
Doug_W agreed
JoeSchmoe that's why I don't go to DP. Why feel down
Doug_W I do not get Up OR Down
JoeSchmoe because you don't listen to what people say about this
JoeSchmoe that is the only way one can be anywhere
spankie guy in here last night talking oil credits- very positive
Young_SC spankie kap says oil credits is nonsense
spankie kap knows all
futuremoney never read any evidence for oil credits
Spankie they surely would not put things like that on paper- already too many investing
futuremoney if someone has anything stating in writing about oil credits in any way ,I would like to change my mind
futuremoney I write it up to guru bunk
Zig Young_SC : All the people at DP have been invited via a post I gave to Doug a long time ago.....Doug, please invite them again.....one of the leaders has been here in the past under a different name....
Doug_W ok Zigfeld will do
Doug_W Silver:$17.93
Young_SC Where is kap
Young_SC I want to hear his LOP the currency and then shortly rise it to a Dollar nonsense LOL when someone says nonsense like that it clearly shows he knows nothing
Young_SC Does kap have idea what a LOP is?
Young_SC And the amount of damage it will do to its citizens and the economy
Wilder I'm ate up with non-sence. Is there any nedication for that?
Young_SC And then out of no where they gonna rise it to a dollar right after lolol
Wilder Young_SC When?
Zig Young_SC : You can't fool me....you are trying to bait Kaperoni into coming back here again soon.....you love it.....lol..... :na;
Young_SC Zig LOL
Btutt Can we attend the exchange with a friend if we have already been to the appointment?
Young_SC Wilder That is kaps logic
Young_SC Btutt what do you mean
Young_SC Zig lol what is he asking?
Young_SC Go to an appointment with a friend?
Btutt My question is about abiding by the NDA. If I have been to the exhcange and had my appointment, can I attend a friends appointment and not be in violation of the NDA?
Zig Btutt : Who told you that you will need to sign an NDA??
Btutt So no NDA? That's great news
Young_SC Whats a NDA?
Clay Btutt absolutely not
Zig Non Disclosure Agreement..... :censor:
Clay there are some out there that lie to keep people coming back to their sites
IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Night 10-8-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Night 10-8-19
Dave find it interesting given the situation ...they can only muster 212 out of 364 to parliament
Dave at least Quorum..... protesters should focus on CBI.....and push the button......???????
Dave Right Young-SC?
Young_SC Dave GOI is responsible for most of what they ask for. Cbi is in charge of the financial being of things GOI=Corruption I agree with the protesting against the GOI
Dave need a coup...... more yadda yadda from GOI
Dave A warning shot....between the eyes of Maliki......could speed things up?
Dave 9 more days...as per protesters demands for arrest warrants still in effect?
Francis Albert This is out today The World Gold Council announced on Tuesday that Iraq has maintained its global position with the largest reserves of gold, which represents 7% of the rest of its currencies
IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Night 10-8-19
Dave find it interesting given the situation ...they can only muster 212 out of 364 to parliament
Dave at least Quorum..... protesters should focus on CBI.....and push the button......???????
Dave Right Young-SC?
Young_SC Dave GOI is responsible for most of what they ask for. Cbi is in charge of the financial being of things GOI=Corruption I agree with the protesting against the GOI
Dave need a coup...... more yadda yadda from GOI
Dave A warning shot....between the eyes of Maliki......could speed things up?
Dave 9 more days...as per protesters demands for arrest warrants still in effect?
Francis Albert This is out today The World Gold Council announced on Tuesday that Iraq has maintained its global position with the largest reserves of gold, which represents 7% of the rest of its currencies
Francis Albert I was trying to come up with Dinar "out there' and did all the math, tons of gold, ounces X $1,500 and that number is 7 % of what number...which is 60 Billion Dollars. World Gold Council is saying Iraq has 60 Billion $ of currencies in the bank.
They must have loads of dollars for if it were all Dinar it would be 70 Trillion Dinar. We must know how many Dollars CBI holds? anybody. I was going to try to get a number close to what KAP talks about, but then got that this is what is in the vault at the CBI. So, I did lots of math and my head almost exploded and didn't learn much
Francis Albert IMO, if you believe an investment is worth investing in, during uncertain times, one buys more, not sells what they have. When the Dinar goes up "significantly" (.10 to 1.00) then watch the people who want to buy it.:)
Francis Albert People buy more of something when it is going up, opposite of the "best" move.
Baxter Francis Albert DIMES PLEASE
Dave Dinar remains stable......?
Zig Francis Albert : Sure....most people have no interest in something until it starts making a big move.....then they want to jump on the moving train.....human nature.....
Dave i like fire sales...... coke shares tanked.....id be buying......
Zig Francis Albert : BTW Kaperoni replied to my email.....said he had not read your posts.....hopefully you two will eventually have a chance to chat.....
Wilder Im waiting for the dinar scratch and dent sale
Francis Albert Zig...yes, I suspect so..thank you, Sir.
spankie like u said trade back for oil credits
Francis Albert Right spankie...the only place the dollars can come from
Tebow Again no one knows how much is out there. And Iraq doesn't have to cover all of it. And on top you think Iraq is worth more than 2T.
spankie what do u think of a lop
Francis Albert anything is possible, but that doesn't full fill the whole mission of the invasion for the U.S. to get a cheap supply of oil till then end of time
spankie i have heard that before- smart for usa
Francis Albert Well, it makes sense at any rate. The neo cons, the Cheney crowd had this thing all planned out for years IMO
spankie trillions of usd and lives for that war
Francis Albert Right. All is fair in love and war. Countries have been stealing stuff from each other since Countries were created. Greed and power
Francis Albert So, maybe if we end up with some extra dollars though all of this we can balance some of the bad karma out a bit doing good things to help others.
spankie soup kitchen for the homeless
Francis Albert Our start a business and put them to work
spankie sounds best but takes doing and know how
Francis Albert Understand. But that is how we learn stuff, by doing. I've had successful business and one that went bankrupt. That't the only way we learn our way. Just try.
spankie appreciate the positive discussion on the iqd - lot here r losing hope w all that's not happenedd and now riots
spankie Francis Albert u seem more informed / educated than many about this - thx--
Francis Albert I understand. Work on letting go of the day to day. Do your life spankie, take care of your self and your family and make sure you will be just fine, if nothing happens with this investment.
Francis Albert My pleasure. Take care. You're doing good.
Zig 6:16 PM @Kaperoni: Please read what "Francis Albert" wrote starting there and comment when you have time. Thank you
Kaperoni Central: The cash mass outside the banks is more than 39 trillion dinars
2019-06-17 07:11 The Central Bank of Iraq revealed on Monday the amount of cash mass outside the Iraqi banks, pointing out that it is more than 39 trillion dinars.
The bank said in an official statistic it was briefed by Alsumaria News that "the amount of currency outside the banks amounted in January of 2019 by 39 trillion and 796 billion and 700 million dinars," noting that "this amount fell from the month of December of 2018, which amounted to 40 Trillion and 498 billion and 67 million dinars. "
The bank added that "the highest level of currency outside banks during the past three years was in December 2016, where it reached 42 trillion and 75 billion dinars, while the lowest level of currency during the month of February of 2004, which amounted to 5 trillion and 431 million Dinar".
The Central Bank in 2011 put forward a project to delete the zeros for the structure of the currency, which the bank considered it would transfer Iraq from the country of trillions to billions, that the project was met with great opposition by the specialists and politicians in parliament. LINK
Kaperoni Execute Order 13303 has been misrepresented by the gurus. I did a report on this years ago...These are the facts...
Kaperoni Executive Order 13303
Protecting the Development Fund for Iraq and Certain Other Property in Which Iraq Has An Interest
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2003/05/print/20030522-15.html
Part 1...
The first part is the order related to the DFI which must be renewed.
This order is the protection of Iraq’s money (known as the DFI fund) which is where all proceeds go from the sale of Iraqi assets such as petroleum and petroleum products, etc. The purpose of this order then allows the revenue to be used in an orderly reconstruction of Iraq, the restoration and maintenance of peace and security in the country.
This is scheduled to expire May 22nd 2013. Since this would expire, Iraq would have to be in a position to fully manage their financial obligations or fall risk to unresolved creditor and debts.
As an example, the Paris Club debt agreement with many countries totaling 100 billion in debt relief was conditional. In order for the debt to be forgiven, each country negotiated acceptable resolutions and terms with Iraq. Much of this is known as “benchmarks” that Iraq must achieve to fulfill those obligations, thus granting the debt relief. Those terms were incorporated into the recent IMF Stand by Agreement that expired February 23rd, 2013 (after extension).
If Iraq failed to meet those “benchmarks” these funds could be at risk and subject to seizure once EO 13303 expires. This part of EO 13303 must be renewed every year until Iraq is self sufficient or risks asset seizure.
Kaperoni Part 2...
The second part of 13303 terminates previous Executive Orders (restrictions)
This part requires no review or extensions. It does not expire, and it would take another Executive Order to reinstate. This is the part that, as a result, gives US citizens the right to invest and do business in Iraq.
This order EO 13303 simply terminates three other orders… Executive Orders 12722, 12724, or 13290 that were already in effect pertaining to Iraq.
As a result, investment in the new Iraq is then guaranteed under the Presidential Order 13303 because it removed previous orders which were blocking investment and trade.
13303 in essence, by the termination of these three previous EO’s allows for a restructuring of the banking system in Iraq. And US citizens to invest in Currency, Stocks, Bonds, Real Estate and do Business in Iraq. This was a discrete and indirect way of lifting and canceling previous orders on Iraq giving each of you the right to own the New Iraqi Dinar.
Since Iraq is opening up to the global economy and integrating with the world, there is no need to consider or impose any such future orders limiting or preventing investment.
133303 terminated the following previous three Executive Orders…
Executive Orders 12722 – blocking iraqi government property and prohibiting transactions with iraq
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Documents/12722.pdf
Executive Orders 12724 – blocking iraqi government property and prohibiting transactions with iraq
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Documents/12724.pdf
Executive Orders 13290 – Confiscating and Vesting Certain Iraqi Property
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/WCPD-2003-03-24/pdf
Zig Kaperoni : Did you read Francis' posts above starting at 6:16?
Kaperoni part of it
Kaperoni that is why i posted the article about how much dinar is out of the banks
Kaperoni So there are the facts zig
Zig LOL....Thanks, Kap....
Kaperoni 13303 is an interesting read. I recommend it
Xyz Kaperoni 10-8-2019 Intel Guru MarkZ ... Frank [Guru Frank26] had big news yesterday from [Guru] Walkingstick who is a bank owner...LD’s and Fils expected on the 14th...Close to what I just received from a number of sources in Iraq.
xyz Kaperoni 10-8-2019 Intel Guru MarkZ A military contact says this will be done/wrapped up between Nov. 4-15th
chattels Iraq Parliament votes on laws to address protest demands: 1) work of provincial councils ended, district & local councils canceled; 2) financial grants for unemployed; 3) financial grants for students & poor; 4) compensation for protest victims; & more. http://mobp.as/DC4Up
chattels Iraqi official numbers put protest victims at 110 killed & more than 6000 injured. MP from Nasr Coalition says these numbers are not accurate. In visit to one hospital alone there were 100 killed. https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/middleeast/iraq/081020197
chattels Iraqi PM Abdel-Mahdi’s office says an agreement has been reached with protest coordinators to suspend protests until after Arba’iin visits on 20 October. Protest demands include resignation of PM. http://mobp.as/G45Up
chattels When is Arbaeen?
Arbaeen is a national holiday in Iran.
It is observed on Safar 20 or 21, the 40th day after Ashura, the martyrdom anniversary of Imam Hussein, the grandson of Prophet Mohammad, in 680 AD.
History of Arbaeen
Arbaeen is one of the most important ceremonies in the Shi'ite Muslim calendar.
Arbaeen, means forty in Arabic as forty days is the traditional length of mourning after the death of a family member or loved one in Muslim traditions.
Imam Hussein was killed at the Battle of Karbala in central Iraq on 10 October 680 AD.
Around 20 million pilgrims will gather in Karbala on Arbaeen, making it the world’s largest annual human gathering. Many of the pilgrims travel barefooted from across Iraq and more than 50 countries.
chattels Arba'een Pilgrimage HTTPS://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arba%27een_Pilgrimage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arba'een_Pilgrimage
chattels Arba'een 2019 will begin in the evening of Saturday, October 19 and ends in the evening of Sunday, October 20 Dates may vary.
chattels tman23 Hello. Any reason to be hopeful about any return on our investment in the IQD according to your sources ?
chattels Near term, longer term, never - ever term ?
chattels Tens of Iraqis begin to request unemployment grants which Iraqi Parliament approved today. https://twitter.com/DavidMWitty1?lang=en&lang=en
chattels Arguably just another form of payout / payoff to a limited class or segment of Iraqi society.