IQD CALLS Chat Saturday Afternoon 9-28-19

IQD CALLS Chat Saturday Afternoon 9-28-19

Xyz   Barzani: Erbil And Baghdad Are Making Serious Efforts In The Negotiations And We Hope To Reach An Agreement

http://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=789808

BAGHDAD / NINA /- President of the Kurdistan Region, Nechirvan Barzani, expressed his hope to reach an agreement with Baghdad, calling on the Federal Council of Representatives and Iraqi political parties to visit Erbil for further talks, especially with regard to the Kurdistan oil file.

"The relations with Baghdad are good, and negotiations are continuing in a positive atmosphere," said Barzani, according to Rudaw Media Network on the sidelines of the Kurdistan University Forum in Erbil. Added ``I think Baghdad and Erbil want to solve all the outstanding problems and certainly all efforts are continuing for this purpose. ''

On the negotiations for the preparation of the 2020 budget, the President of the Kurdistan region said: "I hope to reach an agreement and we all look forward to an agreement," noting that "the parties are making serious efforts to reach solutions."

On the dialogue with the Iraqi political blocs, Nechirvan Barzani stressed "dialogue is always required with the Iraqi political parties and all political forces to achieve mutual understanding."

He added, "Unfortunately, questions and problems are often raised about the Kurdistan oil file and we have invited the Federal Parliament and political parties to send delegations to Erbil for further talks on these issues and to reach a settlement that serves Kurdistan, Iraq and their people."

Last Thursday, a delegation from the Kurdistan Parliament, arrived in Baghdad, to discuss several issues, including the share of the region of the fiscal budget law for 2020, where the delegation met with the Finance Committee in the House of Representatives, in the presence of the President of the Kurdistan Regional Representative in Baghdad, to discuss the draft budget law 2020.

Oil, budget and disputed areas remain at the top of the outstanding issue

xyz   Good news for Iraqis https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Falforatnews.com%2Fmodules%2Fnews%2Farticle.php%3Fstoryid%3D213461&sandbox=1

Sparky   xyz ...lots of good stuff going on... autonomous region sitting down with Bagdad ...that's progress...if only Iranian influence could be eliminated from the equation... corruption may diminish...to a "controllable " level...

xyz   Sparky wishful thinking... keep dreaming

xyz   Corruption is in their blood stream imho

Sparky    xyz ... corruption diminished, not eliminated...the crooks could make more with international investment... maybe that's the holdup...figuring out the new angle...

Sparky   Doug_W ... exactly, want to live the dream... but can't win if you don't play...and hang with the decision made... patience... fruition to follow...imo...

Doug_W   Sparky time Pal time~~

Sparky   Doug_W ...yes sir...the most precious commodity...

Baxter   AnyONE CAN JOIN MY DIME CLUB

Baxter   well... almost anyone... GURUS not allowed

Sparky   Doug_W ... anxious vs patience... Patience is a very good virtue, but...easier said than done...

Sparky   Baxter ...cool, dime gets me my yaught...to throw money into the ocean...but, will be great fun doing so...

Sparky   Baxter ... quarter will get me a plane also...

Sparky   ... I'll break the record for going broke quickly...lol...

Sparky   ...1:1 , I'll have a place on every continent...

Sparky   ...$3+... I'm going Tesla or Virgin to outer space...

Omonko   Sparky im with ya

Sparky   Omonko ...any thoughts you'd like to share on our endeavor ?

Omonko   Other than im ready to go. Nope lol. Got first dinar in 2010. Im ready

Sparky   Omonko ...instant windfall ?

Omonko   More than i paid. Yup

Sparky    Omonko ...oh, ok...you be in this longer than me...very good...

Omonko   Big bucks hope so. But??

Sparky   Omonko ...rate and date...who knows...but, makes logical sense to me... for positive outcome...

Omonko   I follow therory if low, investers will buy all up causing it to climb like quwait did. Then im all out/in

Omonko   I think hold up is our gov situation. War in dc must be closer to done

Omonko   I think iraq done. Just dragging feet to release until told to go

Sparky   Omonko ... interesting perspective...

Omonko    I was on phone with okie yrs ago. He said his source was dick chaney and it was going but part of our gov held it up. Been fighting it since

Omonko   Does anyone else think if low like kap says, investers will buy it all making it rise up like quwait?

Red   Happy Saturday Dinarland! Still waiting... Lol Here is a new video link if you haven't seen yet. https://youtu.be/S-WF4QDoMck?t=509

Sparky   Omonko ...in my understanding, Kuwait simply reinstated previous value... and got rid of older notes, as Saddam had stolen their plates for printing KWD...

Baxter    Sparky that is correct.... they never Rv'd.. more GURU B>>S

Omonko   Kuwait did ri. At $3.25 ish. But so many buying/investing drove forex value up to $9

Baxter   yes.. but Kuwait didnt put 42 trillion dinar out either... THAT IS THE PROBLEM

Omonko   Wow always read kap and this room. Didnt know some so soft skinned. Sry

xyz   Really guru Frank? China has over a billion people... with a B   And USA less than half a billion.  Yes it's no breaking news.. China is big. 9-28-2019   Intel Guru Frank26 .China in fact it's so big.

Zig   Omonko : Just kidding......lol

Omonko   Baxter yeah but as investers buy forex will rise

Baxter   i PRAY for a DIME

Xyz    9-28-2019 Newshound Guru Jeff ...Our current status right now...don't forget the numbers that they're discussing for the 2020 budget include monies for Articles 140 and the HCL.

This 2020 budget has post rate change monies in it...we're looking good. They're moving forward at the same pace they have throughout this entire year. Continuing to reach agreement. Continue to set the stage.

Reaching stability and everything that the CBI is seeking for the rate change. So things are progressing. Looking pretty good...

xyz   Abadi: Sadr gave the government one year and wait for a position ..

BAGHDAD, Sept. 28, 2019 (AFP) - Former prime minister and head of the Shi'ite Alliance, Haider al-Abadi, said on Saturday that the leader of the Sadrist movement, Muqtada al-Sadr, has given the government of Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi, one year, to implement the promised government program .

Abadi said during an interview at the Rafidain Forum for Security and Economy in Baghdad, "Sadr expressed his dissatisfaction with the government of Abdul-Mahdi recently," stressing: "We are waiting for him a position after a year after the formation of the government."

Al-Rafidain Forum for Security and Economy kicked off in Baghdad on Saturday, September 28, 2019 with the participation of a group of Iraqi, Arab and foreign personalities specialized in the fields of politics, security and economy.

In the view of the participants that the Forum is an important opportunity for Iraq in strengthening its relationship with its regional and international partners.

Highlights of what Dr. Haider Al-Abadi spoke during a meeting of leaders at the Rafidain Forum on Saturday evening 28-9-1919.    LINK

Sparky   xyz ... isn't that why Abadi distancd himself from DAWA... to be next PM... after a short recess...Sadr and Abadi are buds...imo... and, can get along with Barzani...

xyz   Erbil, Baghdad could reach deal on oil, budget in October: Oil Minister https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/280920192

Sparky   xyz ... also doesn't hurt that Abadi was previously finance minister, and... former PM... Abadi knows what s up...as does Sadr...guess Iranian influence, is something that we have to deal with...Shia bros...

Sparky   ...SOL is Maliki corruption machine... Abadi left, right ?... lol...yeah he did... good Shi ite happen ing these dayz...

xyz   Sparky If you mention Maliki 3 times in a night then dinar will never RV

Sparky   xyz ...ok...is twice as Nice...?

Sparky   xyz ... Iran may need IQD uptick, to survive... may be good for us profiteers...

Sparky   ...JP Morgan awards Iraqi trade bank award for excellence in direct transactions... wow...JP on top of everything...even missing billions from 2003... that would buy many yaught...and, keep my bong lit...

Sparky   ... maybe JP controls the rv button...

sandyf   @chattels Increasingly my thinking is that Iraq just has too many problems for our liquidity event to happen.

That would be true if the event is perceived as solitaire. That is not the case, IQD/USD is a relationship between more than one entity but some are only prepared to focus on one side of the equation.

Yet at the same time people are looking to one outcome,"exchange".

If "no one knows" then nothing can be ruled out and more consideration should be given to the bigger picture. People should reflect on how the hype on the IQD started in the first place.

There was no factual basis but we all got sucked in on the possibility of some return, early doors it was 10 cents by 2010. The whole thing morphed into something else and we can only hope that factors away from Iraq will come into play.

Sparky    sandyf ... come on dude... logic says yes to this event...slow, or fast... it's inevitable my friend...imo..m

Sparky   sandyf ... simply look at their resources... which all the NE Africa needs badly... silk road is not a fallacy...it's going on...today...Wake up...

Sparky.   .. SE Asia be needing fuel, about now...ie...silk road initiative... China... directly east... .once that is completed and, on line...we rich...imo.... many, many peeps in India and China...

Sparky   ... energy generation must go green...to last... Solar system and wind generation... forget fossils... Iraq best wake up, before the train leaves... maybe 10 years tops...and we go green energy...as it is abundant, and, earth friendly...imo...

Sparky   *although       sandyf ...re reading your statement, I concur....

Sparky   sandyf ... but, differ in outcome...

Sparky   xyz ...in my understanding, silk road is not only oil pipeline, but a chance for trade throughout Eastern continents... just hope, we don't get left behind...

Sparky   xyz ...4x will put IQD in check, once it goes live...imo...

Sparky   ... their currency value, will be what the world determines it's value to be...end, or, beginning of story...

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IQD CALLS Chat Early Saturday 9-28-19

IQD CALLS Chat Early Saturday 9-28-19

Xyz   Blame Maliki for delay...   9-28-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni ...technically we were very close 6-7 years ago under Shabibi...Shabibi clearly prepared, held the dinar within 2% for 14 months or so and announced he was ready to move forward.

As well the World Bank launched an extensive campaign on behalf of the CBI to inform citizens. For whatever the reasons, Maliki stopped him. Everyone is aware of that.

Zig   Saint Kaperoni Tweets.....HOT OFF THE PRESS!!......Read all about it!!!..... ;read; ...... @kaperoni...........

"If we're lucky and Iraq succeeds in launching a market economy around the first of the year, and we see the significant transition built into the budget for 2020, then we should see the Central Bank move off the peg and begin to float the currency next year. But time will tell."

"I don't care if people that follow me believe the research that I've done. But I do want people to understand there could never be a significant overnight RV of the currency despite with the Gurus say everyday. There's too much currency in circulation for such an event."

xyz   Zig 9-26-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni ...I am 100% positive of what I say

Xyz   Iraqi parliamentary delegation to visit Kurdistan to discuss financial, legal and oil files

An Iraqi parliamentary delegation will visit the Kurdistan region early next week to discuss a number of issues with officials of the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) in the Iraqi parliament, Mohammed Shaker said Thursday.

Mohammed Shaker said that the delegation consists of members of the committees of legal, oil, gas and finance, pointing out that there is a good rapprochement between Erbil and Baghdad.

This visit comes at a time when a delegation from the Kurdistan Parliament headed by Deputy Speaker Heiman Hawrami, on Thursday, to Baghdad, and in this regard said the Chairman of the Committee on Energy and Natural Resources in the Kurdistan Parliament in a press statement that the delegation explained during the meetings The two sides live in a single state. The only way for them is to solve problems through dialogue.   LINK

 hattelsBaghdad / Nina / Foreign currency markets in Baghdad, on Friday, stabilized at the exchange rate of the US dollar against the dinar.

The market price in Baghdad today 1203 dinars per dollar, or 120 thousand and 300 dinars for one hundred dollars.

https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=789678

xyz   French "Spiderman" arrested after climbing a building in Germany https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Falforatnews.com%2Fmodules%2Fnews%2Farticle.php%3Fstoryid%3D213402&sandbox=1

chattels   BAGHDAD / NINA / The leader of the conquest Alliance, Hadi al-Amiri, said he wants Iraq on its own and can not be the tail of anyone.

https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=789779

chattels   They can be their own " tail ".

Tebow   xyz good question

chattels   BAGHDAD / NINA / Financial expert Safwan Qusay said that the process of economic reform in Iraq needs to adopt a new approach to combat corruption.

https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=789803

xyz   Tebow and the answer is?

chattels   Increasingly my thinking is that Iraq just has too many problems for our liquidity event to happen. Lack of security, instability and corruption remain constant companions for Iraq.

chattels   But, who knows ?

chattels   Have a fine day all.

chattels   Removal of Iraqi CTService’s Lieutenant General Abdel-Wahab al-Sa’idi said to be at request of CTS Director General Talib Shaghati Kenani after 200 “ghost soldiers” were discovered in Sa’idi’s Command. https://www.eremnews.com/entertainment/legal-cases/1982526

Tebow   chattels no one knows

Zig   chattels: "But, who knows?"............That pretty much sums up this whole venture........

Tebow   Zig no one

Xyz   Barzani: Erbil And Baghdad Are Making Serious Efforts In The Negotiations And We Hope To Reach An Agreement

http://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=789808

BAGHDAD / NINA /- President of the Kurdistan Region, Nechirvan Barzani, expressed his hope to reach an agreement with Baghdad, calling on the Federal Council of Representatives and Iraqi political parties to visit Erbil for further talks, especially with regard to the Kurdistan oil file.

"The relations with Baghdad are good, and negotiations are continuing in a positive atmosphere," said Barzani, according to Rudaw Media Network on the sidelines of the Kurdistan University Forum in Erbil. Added ``I think Baghdad and Erbil want to solve all the outstanding problems and certainly all efforts are continuing for this purpose. ''

On the negotiations for the preparation of the 2020 budget, the President of the Kurdistan region said: "I hope to reach an agreement and we all look forward to an agreement," noting that "the parties are making serious efforts to reach solutions."

On the dialogue with the Iraqi political blocs, Nechirvan Barzani stressed "dialogue is always required with the Iraqi political parties and all political forces to achieve mutual understanding."

He added, "Unfortunately, questions and problems are often raised about the Kurdistan oil file and we have invited the Federal Parliament and political parties to send delegations to Erbil for further talks on these issues and to reach a settlement that serves Kurdistan, Iraq and their people."

Last Thursday, a delegation from the Kurdistan Parliament, arrived in Baghdad, to discuss several issues, including the share of the region of the fiscal budget law for 2020, where the delegation met with the Finance Committee in the House of Representatives, in the presence of the President of the Kurdistan Regional Representative in Baghdad, to discuss the draft budget law 2020.

Oil, budget and disputed areas remain at the top of the outstanding issue

xyz   Good news for Iraqis https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Falforatnews.com%2Fmodules%2Fnews%2Farticle.php%3Fstoryid%3D213461&sandbox=1

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IQD CALLS Chat Friday 9-27-19

 IQD CALLS Chat Friday 9-27-19

Zig   Kaperoni Tweet: @kaperoni.......   "The CBI and Parliament are working feverishly to create a market economy. With the intent of putting as much as $70 billion dollars into the 2020 budget. If this succeeds launching a market economy the CBI will move to a float and allow the currency to gradually appreciate."

Zig   @EricB: SandyF answered you.....not sure if you will be reading this evening but I will post it shortly......

Zig   From EricB...............@sandyf:  "My questions are this: Would the CBI be able to manipulate the stated quantity of currency electronically and discreetly?

Did past govts that redenominated have these electronic technology/tools at the time they redenominated? Thank you".........

SandyF's answer posted yesterday:........  "No the CBI would not be able to manipulate what is in the accounts. They have independent auditors and also the IMF watching every move,

As for these so called tools, that depends on how far back you want to go but recent redenominations would certainly have had the same level of technology available. Zambia published detailed guidelines on their redenomination and it is available online, worth a read."

Dave   Zig any source or link?

Zig    No....ask Kap if he comes tonight......

sandyf   As we head into 2020 everything that comes out of Iraq is being taken as a precurser to the mythical RV. In that respect not a lot has changed in the last 13 years.

"In regards to the latest actions of the Central Bank of Iraq, we have seen a 10 percent increase in value of the Dinar since the middle of November.

The Dinar is now 1325 to 1, where it had been about 1480 for the last two years. The Central Bank has also made statements that they plan on increasing the Dinar to the point that it is stronger and more widely used than the dollar.

These statements, along with the fact that most all of our fellow Dinar dealers are no longer selling, and that all of the major sources for Dinar has dried up, leads us to believe that we are looking at a very bright 2007 for the Dinar.

Is it going to happen on the 1st? That’s hard to say, but the Central Bank of Iraq has made a statement that they are no longer going to hold auctions and they will keep the rate of the Dinar at 1325 until the close of business on Sunday, January 7th. Why did they make this statement, and what is going to happen on the 8th? There is a lot of speculation and since it’s only about a week away, we will know soon."

Davei see that the dinar IS gradually appreciating

Xyz   Joseph Wilson, U.S. diplomat and Iraq war intelligence skeptic, dies

https://www.latimes.com/obituaries/story/2019-09-27/joseph-wilson-iraq-valerie-plame-dead

Joseph Wilson, the former ambassador who set off a political firestorm by disputing U.S. intelligence used to justify the 2003 invasion of Iraq, died Friday in Santa Fe, N.M. He was 69.

Wilson died of organ failure, said his former wife, Valerie Plame, whose identity as a CIA operative was exposed days after Wilson’s criticism of U.S. intelligence that Saddam Hussein was attempting to purchase uranium.

Sparky   xyz ... wow, you do bring it Z !...Also threw Gen Colin Powell under the bus...

Sparky   ...WMD ?...or just a reason to control oil producing countries...such as IQD...

Sparky   ...no Uranium purchase, no WMD... simply greed and corruption... wonder why many countries despise the good 'ol USA...

Sparky   ...Iraq took a page out of our book, and the dictators line their pockets...imo...

Sparky   ... I m just waiting for crumbs to fall off the table...

Tebow   The Halabja chemical attack (Kurdish: Kêmyabarana Helebce کمیابارانی ھەڵەبجە), also known as the Halabja Massacre or Bloody Friday,[1] was a massacre against the Kurdish people that took place on March 16, 1988, during the closing days of the Iran–Iraq War in the Kurdish city of Halabja in Iraq.

The attack was part of the Al-Anfal Campaign in northern Iraq, as well as part of the Iraqi attempt to repel the Iranian Operation Zafar 7. It took place 48 hours after the fall of the town to the Iranian Army. A United Nations (UN) medical investigation concluded that mustard gas was used in the attack, along with unidentified nerve agents.

xyz    Tebow right

Tebow   Ask the Kurds!

xyz   Tebow 1988 is not 2003

Tebow   xyz Sadamn had them until we went in

xyz   Tebow ok if you say so

Tebow   xyz I was in the business back

Sparky   Tebow ...'93 Desert Storm...?

Sparky   Tebow ...and or 9 11 ...?

Tebow   Sparky yes, also Iraqi Freedom, and Desert Shield.

Sparky   Tebow ...ok... good man, thanks for clarifying...

Tebow   After things switch to Afghanistan.

Tebow   Worked with CIA guys but never knew their real names.

Sparky   Tebow ... could you please tell me why we went into Iraq after 9 11...? Should have gone into Saudi, Afghan, or Turkey...or, Pakistan...

Tebow   Turkey - NATO member.

Sparky   Tebow ... Afghanistan...or probably, Iran...

Tebow   Saudi - friendly to US we had bases there

Sparky   Tebow ...ok, got you on those two, makes sense...but why not directly into Pakistan or Afghanistan...?

Tebow   Pakistan bad as Afghanistan, we had people there

Sparky   Tebow ...but, why Iraq...only thing that makes sense to me, is oil... energy control...

Tebow   we have been in AF since 9/11, Paki somewhat help but also helped the terrorist.

Tebow   Sparky they were helping the terrorist after 9/11

Sparky   Tebow ...and, to my knowledge, we still subsidize Pakistan... with my taxes...over a million a year...?

Tebow   Sparky we didn't take any of Iraqs oil,we could have but main aim was to get rid of Sadamn and his party.

Tebow   Sparky we subsidize pretty much everyone, I guess as a way to control. I don't agree with it.

Sparky   Tebow GB Sr, set all those ducks up ...when he was head of CIA...

Tebow   If we didn't China/Russia would step in and give countries support.

Sparky    Tebow ... they don't like petro dollar...they take dirt naps...

Tebow   Look at China and Africa

Sparky   Tebow ...silk road coming...averting petro dollar...

Sparky   Bricksa gonna split up...imo...

Tebow   Petro dollar will always be King unless the Socialist here take over

Sparky   Tebow ...petro dollar non allegiance,...sure way to a quick grave...

Sparky   Tebow ..." Golden Dinar "... electronic or otherwise... will not happen...in my lifetime...imo... forget Cryptos for Middle East...imo...

Sparky   ...sorry, off point statement...

Sparky    Tebow ...agree with king dollar...

Sparky   ...king too strong today...for manufacturing countries to provide us with consumer goods...

Tebow   Remember years ago when Japan was booming and buying buying up everything here in the US. People here were mad. Why they bought many building in NYC, but they aren't going anywhere.

Sparky   ... cheap, disposable, throw away culture...

Sparky   Tebow ... good point...they will never take our real estate home with them... joke is on them...

Tebow   China has trillion of our debt. So what, they have to come back here and one day but our goods or they're just sitting on a bunch of paper we sold them.

Sparky   Tebow ... Fiat...lol... fools lose...

Tebow   Yes

Sparky   Tebow ...real property stays here.

Sparky   Tebow ..." full faith and confidence " ...

Tebow   yes and if it got really really bad, do what other countries do nationalize everything

Sparky   Tebow ... send them back to the sweatshop, when we decide to...

Sparky   Tebow ... they own too much, concentration camps may be in order...lol... not my way... but, possible...

Sparky   Tebow ...war, boom, bust economic theory...

Tebow   Sparky too many guns here, no worries

Sparky   Tebow ... agreed... we manufacture war...

Tebow   sometimes war is necessary

Sparky   Tebow ... economics only... for the most part...

Sparky   Tebow ...imo...

Tebow   best investment you can make these days are guns and ammo

Sparky   Tebow ...we can easily take out the fools...but, not as profitable...

Sparky   Tebow ... Jefferson...

Sparky   Tebow ... domestic, yes... government is out of control...imo...

Tebow   Sparky only getting worst, one day SHTF

Sparky   Tebow ... government supposed to be for the people... that train left 3 decades ago...

Sparky   Tebow ... actually 4 decades...pre movie star ... Reaganomics... trickle down b*...

Sparky   Tebow ... Goldman Sachs puppet...

Sparky   Tebow ... wish I could go back to the '70s... when times were better... even with the fake gas crisis...

Sparky    Tebow ... simpler times...sans technology...

Sparky   Tebow ... Nixon took us off the gold standard, and Kissinger was Sec of State... when all this and *bs began...

Sparky   Tebow ...Iran Contra...Gen North ring a bell ?

Guesswho   Sparky Bush Sr ran that operation and they posted up in Mena Arkansas

Sparky   Guesswho ...yup...

Guesswho   Then the crack cocaine epidemic took off like wild fire destroyed our inner cities and created the prison industrial complex to support the military industrial complex

Sparky   Guesswho ...you a spook ?

Guesswho   Romney helped clean the money in off shore bank accounts

Guesswho   Sparky Nope, it's a bird ......

Guesswho   It's a plane ......

Guesswho   It's Portmagaland

Sparky   Guesswho ...hahhh...knew it was someone that knows what they are talking about...

Sparky   Guesswho ...CIA... heroin, Coke...then rock to the inner povereshed neighborhood s...

Sparky   *impoverished

Sparky   Guesswho ...mind control...101...

Sparky   Guesswho ...began with Burma triangle...Hong Kong...( sweet aroma of opium for tea from Britain, may have preceded )... was a fish port...

Sparky   Tebow ... should have blown up Iran back in 1979, when the USMC soldiers were held hostage... Jimmy Carter tried, but messed up...sand doesn't favor desert landing...lost two Blackhawks, if memory serves...

Sparky   ... at the US embassy, no less...

Sparky   *Navy Sea Stallion helicopters...3...not Blackhawk missles...

Tebow   Sparky Carter was/is a wimp. Could have stopped Iraq in one hour. See US embassies are consider US soil. Carter should have told Iran you have one hour to released our people and return our embassy, otherwise this city in Iran will cease to exist. Then Iran would have a choice, feel the full force or cave. If they didn't and we drop the bomb, then another offer, release on now pick another city. They would have saved and we wouldn't have the problems we have now.

Tebow   Guesswho they can track you

Tebow   Iran^

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.IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 9-26-19

IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 9-26-19

Xyz   The Economic Council reveals a move that will encourage investors to enter their companies to the country

https://alforatnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=213106

BAGHDAD (Al-Furat News) - A member of the Iraqi Economic Council, Ghadeer Al-Attar, said on Thursday that opening the road to Baghdad International Airport will generate positive images with the eyes of investors.

Al-Attar said in a statement received (Euphrates News) a copy, that "opening the road to Baghdad International Airport for passengers without entering into the former security controls will generate positive images of the Iraqi environment."

Al-Attar explained that "the positive image will be due to the security situation that has made the way of the international airport open to travelers and this is reflected to the foreign investor who is looking for a safe environment to invest his money."

"The positive picture relates to the economy as the opening of the airport road will stimulate the entry of investment companies to Iraq after being convinced of the availability of a safe environment for Iraq," Attar said.

The Secretary of Prime Minister Mohammed al-Bayati announced the opening of the road to Baghdad International Airport for all citizens from three o'clock in the afternoon until six in the morning and allow entry to the car for the purpose of travel or reception as of Thursday.

xyz   Banknotes for small groups

To / all licensed banks (banknotes for small categories) ... for briefing.   September 26, 2019

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xyz   Islamic Banking Supervision Department Loa Rio

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Lg: Cah Yeh / Rahi  To / all licensed banks   M / banknotes for small categories

For the purpose of preserving the objectives of withdrawing the damaged currency in circulation and to cover the market need from New banknotes for small denominations (000: 5500010000) JD »and what is required for banknotes counting Damaged for those categories of time and effort because of the difficulty of counting in counting machines.

Therefore, the cancellation of the shortage that may appear in your deposits will be limited to small categories for a limited period.  - Mining.   0 0 Mandar Abdul Qader Sheikhli   Deputy Governor Agency

6-1 / 5/10 ' https://www.newocr.com/download.php?u=fbe569327611f885e08e049beeb827aa-ara-1-0-6-0-497-0-700

Original PDF: https://cbi.iq/static/uploads/up/file-156947828593182.pdf

xyz   http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newocr.com%2Fdownload.php%3Fu%3Dfbe569327611f885e08e049beeb827aa-ara-1-0-6-0-497-0-700&sandbox=1

foxmulder    xyz opened all the links , cant see what denominations are posted .. is there a description of these notes ... did I miss something in writing ?

madness   lots of good news coming out of iraq, your dime is looking better everyday

Baxter   Really... I havent heard

chattels   "ISIS still exists despite its military defeat, but it is in western Iraq and in the vicinity of Mosul and Kirkuk," Amin told Rudaw News Network. "ISIS has small groups or is sometimes active."

He pointed out that they "can attack the security forces and therefore now the ground and air forces and all Iraqi security institutions are working jointly through the joint operations command."

Amin explained

"Coalition forces are major forces and work with us on a daily and continuous basis. They have a very large role, whether by air, land or training, and we need them and they are in agreement with the Iraqi government."

https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/middleeast/iraq/2509201911

chattels   Number of displaced returning dramatically down in 2019 due to lack of jobs services security fears of persecution Mahdi govt doesnt seem to care as shown by expulsions from Ninewa http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/09/iraq-trying-to-end-displacement-crisis.html

chattels   Seems like Mahdi govt wants to expel IDPs close camps & claim displaced crisis over Ex of valuing image over substance & not caring about its citizens http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/09/iraq-trying-to-end-displacement-crisis.html   …

chattels   It has long been my observation that Iraqi politicians were all born without a sense of irony. Now Nuri al-Maliki criticizes the Abd al-Mahdi govt for its harsh response to peaceful protests in Baghdad. https://twitter.com/UticaRisk  

chattels   BAGHDAD ( NINA ) - Parliamentary cafeteria witnessed sharp protests among deputies from different blocs over the refusal to pass a vote on the proposed law to reinstate the members of the ministries of defense and interior who do not have a study certificate.

https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=789569  

chattels   ‘Entire world in talks with Iraq to solve PMF issue’: Saudi diplomat https://www.rudaw.net/english/world/250920191  

chattels   PMU under pressure to integrate into Iraqi state

Ali Mamouri September 25, 2019 

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/09/iraq-pmu-shiite-militias-iran.html#ixzz60dOyTkjt

chattels   Have a fine day all.

 Doug_W   smaller denoms bills

Doug_W  https://www.facebook.com/groups/1582913105081064/?multi_permalinks=2509741649064867%2C2509730779065954%2C2509728522399513&notif_id=1569500884965115&notif_t=group_activity    

Doug_W   foxmulder that is in answer to you Q to Z earlier

Andrewetoldthem   the whistleblower complaint transcript its out and the director of NSI its testifying again this morning another democrats socialist peep show its hard for them to take a defeat now the chairman jerry nadler

its being thrown out his seating position they replace him with adam schiff another clown to run the peep show  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/whistleblower-complaint-declassified-version-of-complaint-released-by-house-intelligence-committee-ahead-of-dni/  

Andrewetoldthem    https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/read-the-whistleblower-complaint-regarding-president-trump-s-communications-with-ukrainian-president-volodymyr-zelensky/4b9e0ca5-3824-467f-b1a3-77f2d4ee16aa/    

Andrewetoldthem    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es2JMbiEZQA  

Andrewetoldthem   its a joke another peep show damn when would they get it they lost we won we in control they turn a biden scandal to a trump scandal they dont know about reverse psychology or mouse trap they just know about how to point fingers at the president and they are always wrong

Mr Critica   lDoug_W Hey Doug,bank around the corner from me was held up yesterday. 

Doug_W   I heard that on FB

Mr Critical   When by as it was happening so many police cars

Doug_W   not FB but a local awareness group called "next door digest"

Mr Critical  Doug_W  it was reported on local TV yesterday.

Doug_W   missed that

Doug_W   Otown or Tampa?

Mr Critical   they only able to Rob 2 employees and not the bank.

Doug_W   those poor ppl

Mr Critical   Both

 Mr Critical   picture showed 2 employees held at gunpoint

Andrewetoldthem   1 thing i hate its when some one that claim they on our side but consistently try to make us look bad  --- i think most of this people see the articles probably dont even read it only read the title meaning then go make youtube video about it  ----

now im going to post everything about the nasdAq and iraq agreement websites etc.... for people like currency 365 dinar investor to get a better understanding of the agreement  ---

nasdaq wouldnt do business with a country that would remain worthless so in the agreement you here they talk about 15 trillion U.S. $ NOT DINAR so i wont it to be last day today to give your updates until its time to come back and scream victory when the education ministry its sworn in for iraq  --- 

to be fully completed succeed form government to go international at last because they should ask their self this why is the president of iraq screaming we ready and we going international

Andrewetoldthem     http://www.rs.iq/  

Andrewetoldthem    Nasdaq and the Iraq Stock Exchange Signs New Market Technology Agreement

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July 19, 2019 02:00 ET | Source: Nasdaq, Inc.

STOCKHOLM, Sweden and BAGHDAD, Iraq, July 19, 2019 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Nasdaq Inc. (Nasdaq: NDAQ) and the Iraq Stock Exchange (ISX) have signed a new agreement to extend their market technology relationship.

As part of the agreement, Nasdaq will continue providing ISX with matching engine and central securities depository (CSD) technology. This new agreement marks the next chapter of a technology partnership between Nasdaq and ISX which originated in 2007.

“We are pleased to build on our successful partnership with Nasdaq,” said Taha A. Abdulsalam, CEO, Iraq Stock Exchange. “Using Nasdaq’s market technology is a clear indication to investors, regulators and other exchanges that Iraq will bolster its efforts into becoming an important financial center for regional and global businesses.”

Andrewetoldthem   https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2019/07/19/1885113/0/en/Nasdaq-and-the-Iraq-Stock-Exchange-Signs-New-Market-Technology-Agreement.html

Andrewetoldthem   22nd July 2019 in Investment

Nasdaq Inc. (Nasdaq:NDAQ) and the Iraq Stock Exchange (ISX) have signed a new agreement to extend their market technology relationship.

As part of the agreement, Nasdaq will continue providing ISX with matching engine and central securities depository (CSD) technology. This new agreement marks the next chapter of a technology partnership between Nasdaq and ISX which originated in 2007.

Taha A. Abdulsalam, CEO, Iraq Stock Exchange, said:

“We are pleased to build on our successful partnership with Nasdaq. Using Nasdaq’s market technology is a clear indication to investors, regulators and other exchanges that Iraq will bolster its efforts into becoming an important financial center for regional and global businesses.“

Michèle Carlsson, Managing Director, Nasdaq in the Middle East and Africa, said:

Andrewetoldthem   https://www.iraq-businessnews.com/2019/07/22/nasdaq-signs-new-agreement-with-iraq-stock-exchange/   

Andrewetoldthem   https://www.nasdaq.com/about  

Andrewetoldthem   By Shobhit Seth   Updated Dec 5, 2018   Simply put, Nasdaq helps companies raise money and helps investors make money — but all of that help comes at a cost. The pioneer of the world’s first electronic stock market, Nasdaq manages 90 different markets and exchanges across 50 countries.

In fact, approximately 10% of the world's security transactions occur on Nasdaq systems. Nasdaq is home to more than 4,000 listed companies with a market cap of $15.43 trillion and more than 10,000 corporate clients. Nasdaq has helped tech giants Apple, Inc (AAPL), Microsoft Corp. (MSFT), and Intel, Corp. (INTC) become what they are today.

 These companies used Nasdaq during their early days to raise the much-needed capital in a timely manner, enabling them to become billion-dollar enterprises.

On Dec. 4, Nasdaq acquired Quandl, one of the biggest "alternative data"

Andrewetoldthem   How Nasdaq Makes Money

Andrewetoldthem   https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/050515/how-nasdaq-makes-money.asp   

  Andrewetoldthem   PRESIDENT SALIH: It’s an opportunity, Mr. President, to reaffirm our gratitude to the United States and the international coalition that has come to help us overcome the tyranny of ISIS and terrorism.

This was an amazing battle. And Iraqis were in the forefront of this battle, but your support has been absolutely crucial, and we appreciate it. Now, the task of rebuilding Iraq, reconstructing Iraq, affirming the sovereignty of Iraq, and being a partner in the neighborhood for a more stable Middle East is a hope and an aspiration that we look for the help of the United States and the help of the international community.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, I understand. And it has been a great achievement. We took 100 percent of the caliphate from ISIS. And ISIS — now we have thousands and thousands of people that we’ve captured.

These people have done a lot of destruction, not only in that area, in a lot of other areas. But, as you know, we have thousands of people. We’ll talk about that also because we’re going to have to do something — put them on trial, et cetera, et cetera.

But we’ve captured thousands of ISIS fighters and taken back 100 percent of the caliphate. And when I first became President, it was a mess. It was a big mess. And we — we all worked together and we got it done, but it was a great achievement, so we appreciate that. And we look forward to our discussion.

Thank you. Thank you very much.

Q Thank you. Mr. President, good to see you. Iraq has declared that it won’t allow its territory to be used as a launching pad against its neighbors. Can you assure us that you can control all the rogue elements, especially with the (inaudible), especially that we have two rockets landing?

PRESIDENT SALIH: It’s our sovereign responsibility. It’s our sovereign responsibility to abide by our constitution, not — Iraq not to be used as a base for any threat against our neighbors. It is work in progress, and Iraq has been a constructive player in the

Andrewetoldthem   not once in those statement they say oh 2020 the contract of nasdaq will begin so the million $ question is where do they get the 2020 from when the president of iraq is saying other wise are they the president O.M.G they like the democrats socialist they see things people dont see

Andrewetoldthem   they should learn how to read study their history and when they dont understand something they highlight it and search the meaning of it its ridiculous .......

Wilder   Andrewetoldthem    thanks. Keep us informed.

Andrewetoldthem   PRESIDENT SALIH: It’s our sovereign responsibility. It’s our sovereign responsibility to abide by our constitution, not — Iraq not to be used as a base for any threat against our neighbors. It is work in progress, and Iraq has been a constructive player in the neighborhood, trying to assure all our neighbors that the stability and sovereignty of Iraq is a common interest.

And a lot of things, in that regard, is happening, and I’m looking forward to talking to the President about it.

Andrewetoldthem   now would i give a date no would i give a rate no but ill tell you what i can give is to let you know its the only education ministry left for them to be fully formed government and stable and then its a wrap would it happen 2020 no but i could tell you this remenber when the mArket crash before election now they say trump reversing everything obama and bush did together so then you should know when that reverse will occured

Andrewetoldthem   slow economy iraq market crash they blame iraq what that tell you iraq is a very important country and its allies need it not to go to another market crash and recession

Andrewetoldthem   and trump is not stupid thats all bye got to go if they want to make us look bad be on the dems socialist side not under our side trying something they know they going to be wrong about its coming and when it comes trump will be right and the dems will be wrong again like he say in his own words they screaming for recession another market crash a war just like obama and bush to use against me because they cant beat me

Andrewetoldthem   Fox News, Trump, accuse media of trying to cause a recession

by Yvonne Zacharias · August 20, 2019

Fox News guests and hosts have accused the media of deliberately trying to cause a recession to undermine President Donald Trump’s re-election prospects. Stocks plummeted last Wednesday after the U.S. bond market fired off a warning sign with an inverted yield curve, which reflects long-term interest rates on bonds dropping below short-term interest rates.

An inversion of the yield curve indicates that bondholders are spooked by the prospects of short-term bonds and are instead putting their money into long-term bonds, and has preceded every U.S. recession since World War II.

For its part, the Trump administration is downplaying fears of a possible recession, which is defined by negative GDP growth for two consecutive quarters.

“We have the strongest economy by far in the world. The tariffs have caused nothing, or very little. I don’t see a recession. The world is in a recession right now … China is doing very poorly,” Trump said to reporters in New Jersey on Sunday, referring to the tariffs his administration has levied on foreign imports from China.

Trump has gone so far as to even suggest to aides that the Federal Reserve Bank, the media and other countries are all conspiring against him to cause a recession specifically to target him, The New York Times reported.

However, research has shown that the media have little influence on the economy.

Andrewetoldthem   the million$ question why would iraq push for failure before even on getting started? with all those debts etc...... will you get more loan if you knew you were not able to pay off your loan and plus get sanctions and bill collector keep calling to pay off your debts? and the answer was answer by them

Andrewetoldthem   In figures .. an important statistic about the banks of Iraq and huge debts

Andrewetoldthem   The Central Bank of Iraq announced the establishment of a database for the banking system (ICBS) in its branch in Erbil in a move to consolidate the main database in Baghdad and other branches.

A statement to inform the Central Bank received a copy of the agency (Euphrates News) that “this bank confirmed that it is possible to carry out financial transfers in the system of payments (RTGS) by banks to their accounts in the branch of Erbil and Basra directly and in real time.”

He pointed out that the accounting department in this bank is currently working towards linking the database with the Mosul branch and it is hoped to be completed before the end of this year.

Andrewetoldthem   keyword before not after just like this one right here to announce the first amendment of controls Entered or ejected across the Iraqi border, published in the Iraqi newspaper Al-Waqa’eq (4551) on 19/8/2019 before entering into force in February 2020, in order to spare citizens and travelers legal accountability for the violations stipulated in these controls during the transfer of funds through Limit D “.anthy

Andrewetoldthem   now im done bye have a great day my teacher always told me re read everything more then once until you understand it and if you dont highlight the ones you dont understand and search the meaning and if you still dont understand it put yourself in their position and ask yourself that question and see if you were in business would you of made that mistake ?

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IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Night 9-25-19

IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Night  9-25-19

 Baxter   9-25-2019 Newshound Guru Jeff ...Iraq is back to being as busy as can be right now. Basically what this is telling me is they need the remainder of this entire year of 2019 to finish setting the stage for the rate change...they're gonna need the remainder of this year to do it.

Regarding the Education Minister, IMO, they will not even finish that until next year probably around Q1 of next year...so you might as well direct your focus to 2020.

Baxter   BOY... GURU JEFF has sure changed his tune from last week..... went from any minute.. to 2020

Young_SC   Jeff is all about the Education Minister LOLOL

xyz   US Become A Socialist Country https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/will-us-become-socialist-country

xyz   Trump Base Ignited Amid Impeachment Chaos; $5 Million Raised In 24 Hours https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-base-ignited-amid-impeachment-chaos-5-million-raised-24-hours

chocolatiere   Good morning / evening  everyone .. Just wanted to say thank you to Kaperoni for his time and patience .. for some years it's been pretty depressing trying to get info that seemed basic and that made sense in the midst of all the bla bla bla by unrealistic Gurus deceiving people and telling lies ..

it felt hopeless and kind of depressing BUT Kaperoni has been The plum line to reality .. while giving encouragement to those of us becoming negative ..I want to thank him and I hope he keeps showing up here .. so far he has been right .. I want to thank Chattels also and Sandy f God bless you all .. things are going to work out ..

Andrewetoldthem   No more dems the impeachment inquiry didnt work again from the 7th time trump release the transcript i taught they would of understand when i start it that mouse trap and they kept falling for it wow stupid gov

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

  Andrewetoldthem   in here its not about being right we are all the same its out there with the ones who hate us

Wilder   Welcome to the twilight zone. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between an illusive rv or a float, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone

Sandyf    @Tebow Doug_WCurrency issued~~~~48,589,655,939 so much for that argument, No the argument is still on. If you look at the total assets and liabilities they are the same. How can the be the same figure??????? Something is not right!!!!!

Sandyf    Tebow In a nutshell, your level of accounting expertise. Obviously never heard of "Balance Sheet"

Sandyf      @EricB @Kaperony @sandyf My questions are this: Would the CBI be able to manipulate the stated quantity of currency electronically and discreetly?

Did past govts that redenominated have these electronic technology/tools at the time they redenominated? Thank you.

Sandyf    No the CBI would not be able to manipulate what is in the accounts. They have independent auditors and also the IMF watching every move,

As for these so called tools, that depends on how far back you want to go but recent redenominations would certainly have had the same level of technology available. Zambia published detailed guidelines on their redenomination and it is available online, worth a read.

Kaperoni    xyz, technically we were very close 6-7 years ago under Shabibi so that is not an insult as you intended. Shabibi clearly prepared, held the dinar within 2% for 14 months or so and announced he was ready to move forward. As well the World Bank launched an extensive campaign on behalf of the CBI to inform citizens. For whatever the reasons, Maliki stopped him. Everyone is aware of that.

Sparky   Kaperoni ...yup, Shabbs was out of town, then, persona non Grata...and, tried to give him a criminal offence , if he returned...that's my boy... Maliki...

Kaperoni   One last thing...everyone should pay attention on Oct 24th. Parliament is set to vote on Special Grades. This is critical because the Governor of the CBI is at risk. If Parliament chooses to replace Allaq it could be a major setback. Some think otherwise..time will tell.

Kaperoni   Tebow I have nothing to do with the website other than posting and conference calls. You want to keep accusing me of of your nonsense prove it!

WPY   What reasoning person would put so much stock in a mediocre " sandbox " country like Iraq controlling a world wide event, financial or otherwise except a dunce ?

Sparky   WPY ...me...

PMWPY   Dunce number 2 then . . .

WPY   Iraq DOES NOT control this event ! Only an id*t would claim that.

Sparky   WPY ...then who does...you...?

WPY   What Dinarland has ALWAYS lacked was a forum for reporting ACCURATE information.

Sparky   WPY . ..cash me out at a buck...

WPY   Or you, Sparky ?

WPY   The overwhelming american problem is that most people are con men being trained as salesman or salesman being trained as con men.

Sparky   WPY ... again, how much IQD in circulation, vs. USD in circulation...at 1:1...huh, how does that compute in your thoughts...?

WPY   WHO CARES IF IT HASN'T REVALUED ? ?

WPY   Do you really, honestly think you are going to get accurate figures about currency in circulation ?

WPY   Iraq is full of trained liars. Try & recall the last time they said they would do something & it happened ?

Sparky   WPY ... good point, but I believe there is too much IQD in circulation, to be valued at more than a penny...to start...

 WPY   I'll save you the search -- NEVER !

WPY   YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH IS IN CIRCULATION - PERIOD.

WPY   You never have

PMWPYAnd never will

Sparky   WPY ... Maliki ran Shabbs out of town...for instance...

WPY   All of the so called " Intel " is speculation, rumor, guesswork and plain old made up BS.

Sparky WPY ...hard to argue that...

WPY   How do you know he ran Shabs out of town ?

WPY   RUMOR   SPECULATION     All hearsay

Sparky   WPY ...fact and historically proven...

WPY   The rarest commodity in Dinarland is proof of claim / evidence -- the second rarest is an accurate prediction.

WPY   So where is Shabs now ?

WPY   Where's REAL evidence, i. e., FACT ?

WPY   IT'S ALL HEARSAY ! -- HE SAID - SHE SAID

Sparky   WPY WPY ... I I'll give you accurate prediction... tomorrow...1190 per USD..

WPY   His " Theories " -- again, when has he ever been right ?     WHEN ? ?

Sparky   WPY ... sensible logic...

WPY   And your evidence / proof is ? ? ?      You don't have any, and neither does Kap

Sparky   Sparky WPY ...post Article 8...

WPY   Article 8 nonsense is printed or talked about by who ?   Iraq ?   Who lie with every breath ?

WPY   None of the old mechanisms are relevant to this event -- NONE.

Sparky   WPY ... synthesized opinion , after years of reading , and personal beliefs...

WPY   Ahhh belief -- which is based on " faith " without evidence. How's that worked for you so far ?

Sparky   WPY ...ok, how do they support and sustain more than a penny ?

Sparky   WPY WPY ...same as your opinion and belief...

WPY   Drop the old ways -- they will not be relevant to this event, assuming it ever happens.

WPY   I make no claims, Pablo.   Those who make claims bear the burden of proof.

Sparky   WPY ... we will know who is right, after the fact...not before...

WPY   That is the standard cop out for claimants -- they expect doubters to prove a negative.

WPY   CORRECT -- that's the only time we will find out facts, not before.

WPY   Until the " event," all this chatter is extraneous nonsense, backed by no evidence or proof, never mind fact.

Sparky   WPY ...but, still fun to discuss...

WPY   True . . .

WPY   What's interesting is to see how easily many are convinced that crap like channeling or meditations are gonna fix anything. Billions of prayers, thousands of meditations & hundreds of rounds of Kumbaya have gotten us where ?

WPY   NOWHERE

WPY   It's pure distraction, nonsense that keeps you from looking for the real answers.

WPY   "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary." ― H.L. Mencken

Kaperoni   WPY is full of it. There has been many provable facts to date. We have watched the CBI follow the directives from the IMF over the last several years and those are accomplishments and factual.

We have watched the media and the WB talk about the directives to create a market economy. Those are provable facts as we watch the GOI create the 2020 budget. The list is long..but so many don't want to read and learn.

WPY   "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." ― Voltaire

Sparky   WPY ... with that statement, I absolutely disagree...life is better with meditation...it just may bring you peace bro...

WPY   Cut to the chase, Kap : NAME YOUR LAST RELEVANT PREDICTION . . .

WPY   Well, Kap ?     Name one

Kaperoni   WPY want to insinuate that I get paid. I am retired. I do this to educate those that want to learn. There is no revenue in researching this investment. I came here cause I was invited to do so. Believe me, I could care less about this site.

Kaperoni   Name one what? accomplishment?

WPY   I don't care about Iraq

Kaperoni    WPY I never dodge a legit question

WPY   they are irrelevant

WPY    ACCURATE PREDICTION YOU MADE – waiting

Kaperoni   prediction of what? I dont make predictions   never have    I research and provide facts

WPY   Then where do you get the " facts " from ?

Kaperoni    facts come from professional organizations..IMF, WB, UN and media sources

WPY. . . and we all know we can TRUST the IMF, WB, etc, to report accurate information, don't we . . . .

Kaperoni   WPY you think they would put bogus Article IVs?

WPY   Prove to us you mean what you say

Kaperoni   There are several accomplishments. For one the IMF became Trustee of the CBI. That is fact in 2015. The CBI has followed the directives since then passed the anti-money laundering law, changed the auctions to get in compliance and held 2% per IMF requirement for 16 months. That is just a few

Andrewetoldthem   the only thing left after a great world wide UN GA under D.T. Donald J. Trump admissions the president of iraq went back to iraq on a mission with an agenda of fulfilling the education ministry for prime minister Mahdi -

 for iraq to be fully stable and to formed a fully completed successful government --  to uplift their country and our life for ever despite the hate the lies the rumors  --

we will prevail -- we will win --  its our time  -- its our turn --  we in control --  Iraqi parliament to elect education minister: deputy speaker -- Now that the government is almost fully formed,  --

the prospects of good governance still remain subject to many variables

Parliament voted to complete Iraq’s cabinet: What’s next?

Andrewetoldthem   promises have to be kept

Andrewetoldthem   3:32 P.M. EDT

 PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, thank you very much. We’re glad to be joined by the President of Iraq and his representatives. And I will say that we’ve had a very good couple of meetings with Iraq.

We’re doing well with Iraq. It’s been a very long and complicated but friendly relationship, especially over the last little while. I was in Iraq a little while ago, as you know. And it’s fascinating what’s taking place.

So we’re going to — we have a lot to talk about. There’s things to talk about that we can’t talk about in front of you, but we have a lot of good things to talk about. And you’re doing a fantastic job. Thank you very much.

PRESIDENT SALIH: Thank you.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Thank you.

PRESIDENT SALIH: Thank you. 

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IQD CALLS Chat Early Wednesday 9-25-19 Part 2 of 2

IQD CALLS Chat Early Wednesday 9-25-19 Part 2 of 2

EricB   Young_SC  I'm fine with either, just don't want a redenom first... I don't believe they would be soliciting invest from the global community the way they are if they were going to redenom.

Clay   EricB wouldnt redenom mean 3+

Doug_W   no thyat wold be a RI Clay

Clay   right

Clay   what would redenom mean

Doug_W   new currency

Clay   oh no    cant see how most countries own dinar

Doug_W   its called "Speculation" Clay  and when the value goes up and they own it so does theire asset balance sheet

Kaperoni    Young just doesn't get it.

Kaperoni   Monetary policy just isn't that simple. The CBI needs tools in order to counter or combat inflationary pressure. The pressure will come from significant amount of investment in the country.

And I think everyone can understand that Iraq expects a significant amount of investment over the next few years as a result of them launching the market economy. Which again they are making efforts towards

Kaperoni   So everyone should agree that if investment comes into the country there will be significant pressure on the financial system. That pressure comes in the form of inflation. You don't need an article or a document to validate that that's just what occurs and any basic economic book will tell you that

Kaperoni   So if you agree that inflation will happen as a result of investment then the CBI needs to go to counter such inflation. And the primary tool used is floating the currency because raising the value offsets inflation.

Kaperoni   Having a fixed rate when you have inflation is the worst thing you can do. It'll cause the financial system to spiral out of control

Kaperoni   Again these are all just comments that are documented in any economic books on how central banks work the tools they use and inflationary pressure

Kaperoni   created by investment

Kaperoni   I find it almost comical that a few people in here want to hold me to a standard of proof yet the guru's never proved a thing that they say and everyone believes their nonsense. But I assure you everything that I have documented or stated is provable and is available to be reviewed in factual documentation, reports, or news articles

Zig   Kaperoni : Hi...just a sec while I find a question for you posted earlier....

Zig   "EricB"@Kaperony @sandyf: "Assuming the CBI is removing large notes from circulation via the auctions, destroying them and crediting them electronically AND assuming all employees in Iraq have bank accounts and the banks aren't distributing large sacks of cash to them AND assuming people in Iraq receiving govt benefits or subsistence also are not receiving large sacks of cash when they walk out of the banks, it would seem the CBI would have a good handle on the large notes in circulation.

My questions are this: Would the CBI be able to manipulate the stated quantity of currency electronically and discreetly? Did past govts that redenominated have these electronic technology/tools at the time they redenominated? Thank you."

Kaperoni   The IMF clearly ask the CBI in 2013 to prepare the conditions to float the currency. They didn't use the word float because that's not a technical term. But they used the words.." to move to a more flexible exchange rate policy" which is the same thing

Young_SC   Kaperoni Could you kindly please post an statement which source is from the Finance minister, GOI, Alak/CBI IRAQ stating that there is no such thing as an RI/RV/Purchasing power for its citizens.

You are making statements claming it to be factual information without any real relevant source. So can you kindly please provide it for the gentleman including myself and women to see please.

Young_SC   In addition to the results achieved on the scope of monetary policy applications internally and convince global financial organizations, the most important official reports issued by them confirmed the success of the policy of the Central Bank to achieve an important transition to the Iraqi economy and achieve stability in the exchange rate and the recovery of the Iraqi dinar and raise its purchasing power, one of the objectives of strengthening the economy.

Zig   If you can't have a CIVIL conversation with Kaperoni please don't bother.....Thank You .....not directed at anyone in particular....

Young_SC   http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17644

Doug_W   Zig better define "Civil"

Kaperoni   Young again you seem to think it's my job to provide you with documentation. There is a wealth of knowledge and research that has been posted over the years that is available for anyone to look it up believe me I have better things to do than to show you some article or quote or document so that you can just read it and disregard it go do your research

Young_SC   The "Finance Committee in the Iraqi Council of Representatives announced on Monday (19-August-2019) the" government direction to reinstate the currency and delete zeros from paper currency in order to strengthen the national economy. "

Zig      "courteous and polite."..........CIVIL

Young_SC   https://www.mawazin.net/Details.aspx?Jimare=61023

Young_SC   Kap?     Explanation to those articles in print please

Kaperoni   Zig, anything is possible Zig but if you are going to speculate I don't do that. But there has been articles out that clearly state that they are paying people electronically. So that is a fact.

There are also articles out that say only about 20% of Iraqi citizens have bank accounts. So that means a lot of physical currency is outside of the banks. So that could not be collected in destroyed until it is turned into the banks.

So there is a significant amount of money that is outside the banking system in physical currency in fact the article I posted the other day clearly gave numbers ranging from a few trillion to 40 trillion.

Anywhere in that range is too much for Iraq to revalue the currency significantly. I use the word significantly because certainly they could revalue a small amount, but they certainly couldn't support any significant revalue

Zig   "EricB"@Kaperoni @sandyf: "Assuming the CBI is removing large notes from circulation via the auctions, destroying them and crediting them electronically AND assuming all employees in Iraq have bank accounts and the banks aren't distributing large sacks of cash to them AND assuming people in Iraq receiving govt benefits or subsistence also are not receiving large sacks of cash when they walk out of the banks, it would seem the CBI would have a good handle on the large notes in circulation.

My questions are this:

Would the CBI be able to manipulate the stated quantity of currency electronically and discreetly?

Did past govts that redenominated have these electronic technology/tools at the time they redenominated? Thank you."

Young_SC Kaperoni    Kap it kinda is your job to prove us with such documentation. If you state something of your opinion and explain it as factual information then it is wise to provide such with proof or something of relevenance stated in print from the CBI or GOI

Kaperoni   And if anybody can prove that Iraq is removing the physical notes, destroying any currency I'm all ears. I've always been about the fax it doesn't matter where they lead but nobody wants to provide any facts the support any other theories. Everyone wants to live in the mythical RV but there is no facts to support any such event

Young_SC   Kaperoni Could you please answer

Kaperoni   Young, no it's not   my job at all

Doug_W   @Kaperoni how does the amount in circulation correlate to value I mean look how much USD is out there and our value remains relatively stable

Young_SC   Kaperoni well then how can you state something of your opinion being as factual information in your eyes with no evidence/proof?

Young_SC   Would you go to a court case stating this person did not commit the crime without any proof or evidence?    No disrespect to you

Kaperoni   Zig, there is one more thing to the theory of converting physical currency to electronic currency. Even if they were doing that and even if it was provable. It's not the answer because it's still a number that's out there and if they were to LOP the electronic currency they would also have to lock the physical currency you cannot be selective

Kaperoni    I meant to say LOP the physical currency

Zig   Kaperoni : Okay....that should be addressed to EricB......his questions

Doug_W   yes we knew

Kaperoni   You can't do one and not the other

Young_SC   Kap if certain individuals do not agree with your statement and the CBI had posted the opposite to what you say then it is your job to prove all of us otherwise

Kaperoni   Can you imagine if they were to Lop the electronic currency and not the physical currency the chaos that would cause?

Young_SC   Kaperoni Are you going to answer?

Zig    @EricB: When you return, Kap answered you but addressed me.....

Young_SC   Kaperoni Ive kindly showed you a couple of the sources to back up my claim in which i stated the direction Iraq is heading towards. Now could you kindly please provide the source in which that backs up your claim for all in this chatroom to see.

Kaperoni    So my point is, none of this is simple and there are basic fundamentals that everyone should agree on that the CBI uses as tools within its capacity to maintain monetary policy in a few understand those tools you'll know that they will have to float the currency if they expect a significant amount of investment. There's no ifs ands or buts it's a must

Young_SC   Kaperoni ?

Tebow   Kaperoni No float according to the CBI.

Kaperoni   And The Wishful Thinking of any kind of significant RV just can't happen. One there's too much money in circulation into it combats the theory and policies of the CBI. Why would they RV the currency circumventing their own tools? The RV is an essence circumventing the ability to counter inflationary pressure and make money from commissions

Zig   Kaperoni : IMO where you get into trouble is your being 100% sure of what you say.....not saying anything is wrong with that but you never give an inch......lol

Young_SC   Kaperoni Ive asked you very kindly and you still have yet to show/provide any factual information from the CBI or the GOI stating there is no such thing as an RI/RV because of the 42 t out in circulation as you said on numerous occasions

Kaperoni   Young I posted an article yesterday clearly stating the CBI had released information indicating an excessive 40 trillion dinar outside of the banking system that in itself is all you need to know that they could never RV you don't need to know anything else it's just a substantial amount of money that just can't be compensated for

Tebow   Young_SC he has no proof just an opinion like everyone else

Young_SC   Kaperoni Could you kindly please post an statement which source is from the Finance minister, GOI, Alak/CBI IRAQ stating that there is no such thing as an RI/RV/Purchasing power for its citizens.

You are making statements claming it to be factual information without any real relevant source. So can you kindly please provide it for the gentleman including myself and women to see please.

Young_SC   Tebow Exactly

Zig   Hey give Kap credit for coming in here as often as he does....lol.....not easy......

Young_SC   He is just proving my point

Kaperoni   Zig, I am 100% positive of what I say because the IMF clearly said it

Tebow   Kaperoni you posted an article from an Iraqi TV website

Kaperoni   And if you don't believe the IMF has control over the CBI and only can influence them you're wrong because in 2015 they became trustee of the CBI which has given them authority to implement monetary policy. And we have since seen such action

Young_SC    Kaperoni It is not hard man lol just post documentation stating from the CBI or the GOI saying we cannot RI/RV because of too much dinar in circulation

Tebow   Kaperoni you being 100% positive doesn't make it fact

Young_SC   Why is that so hard to understand Kap? It's simple my brother

Kaperoni   Tebow if it's in print in the IMF document its 100% fact

Kaperoni   There are few of you on this site that either how brain-dead or don't have the ability to make any rational conclusions clearly the facts are out there

Zig   Kaperoni : Is it subject to different interpretations?

Kaperoni   No it isn't Zig go read the IMF Article IV. The words are easily understood and if you have confusion you can always use a thesaurus

Young_SC   Iraq reveals reserves of foreign currency and excludes the float of the dinar

 Tuesday, December 26, 2017

Young_SC  LINK

Young_SC   Kaperoni Could you address that please

Kaperoni   I am a provider of information so that people can make rational decisions. You're not a provider of anything except BS

Zig   Kaperoni's research, etc. can be found at https://dinaralert.webs.com/researchlibrary.htm Free to access....

Kaperoni   Young go do a search there are at least 10 articles in the last 2 years that say that the CBI needs to float the currency. Are you sure you whether you believe it or not they will float the currency because that is the tool that they need if they want investment in the country.

If they don't want any outside investment they don't need to float. But they expect a t billion dollars over the next 12 to 16 months to come into Iraq that will cause inflationary pressure on their financial system there is no ifs ands or buts about it. If that money comes in they will have significant inflationary pressure and the tool for that is to float.

Kaperoni   Whether you believe that or not I don't care. But if that pressure is created they will have to float

Young_SC    Kaperoni Could you please post 2 of these 10 articles please

Kaperoni   So again I tell everyone go read the IMF documents everything to make solid rational decisions on this investment is provided in those documents. If you're too lazy to read the IMF documents and just want to live on the hype of some mythical RV you're foolish

Young_SC   I gave you 3 and i can give you more if you want Kap

Kaperoni   Young no i wont. Don't be lazy go find them yourself

Kaperoni   All right that's enough for one day I got to go back to work in research some documents so you all have fun in your fantasy land

 Zig   Thanks, Kap.....always exhausting when you visit.

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Xyz   RV???? trigger???

Parliament officially turns its session into secret http://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=789163

Clay   I wish Z but doubt it

Clay   its the CBI not parliment

Doug_W   there is an interview W Chris Wallace and Iranian president at 6 on Fox news channel

Sandyf  @Larrykn  sandyf if you read what I posted I said this was an old article, you can twist things anyway you want but that is what they are telling us back then, but I guess you gurus need to get your point across no matter what. good going

I am not twisting anything, if you want to believe that currency sat in banks gets worn out that is entirely up to you. Doesn't make it fact.

Sparky   xyz ... fact is...date and rate...status quo..

sandyf  Blast from the past, found this in the bottom of my inbox, dated 18th Oct 2006.

Dear Ompus / FreeDinar members and customers,

Last night at around midnight Arizona time, the website for the Central Bank of Iraq went down. They normally post the daily exchange rates at 2:30 am (again, AZ time). However, when 2:30 came and went, with the site still being down it made us wonder.

After our local “geek” did some investigating we found that the site was not down due to circumstances such as weather, or bad connections. It was taken down by someone at the CBI.

For this reason, along with all the recent news good economic news (Foreign Investment Law passed, the Hydrocarbon Law being voted on, the 10K Dinars being distributed to their citizens, and much, much more) we have decided to suspend sales immediately.

We have taken our entire inventory off the site, and any checks that come in after this announcement, or that haven’t been cashed will be placed on hold.

Because of the fact that NOBODY can get the current exchange rate of the Dinar, I would assume that no dealer, including Chase Bank is currently selling.

If and when CBI posts the rates, and if they are new (like we have all been waiting for) we will send out a new email, and depending on what the rate is, we will either be selling Dinar, buying Dinar, or retiring from the business!

Of course we hope the latter, and we also hope that many of you will also be able to retire or at least live your dreams.

We also hope that many of you will not forget the men and woman that have fought for us and Iraq and have given the ultimate sacrifice. I know many charity’s here in Phoenix that will be having a very good year, if this all pans out the way we hope.   Thank you,  Dan Fadden  CEO  Ompus / FreeDinar

Sandyf   For those that only believe what the CBI say.

At the end of August this year currency in circulation stood at 48.589 Trillion Dinar.

https://cbi.iq/static/uploads/up/file-156879800127996.pdf

xyz   sandyf so?

Sparky    sandyf .. what would that equate to, if they stage it at a penny ,? Fathomable ?

Sparky   sandyf ...then, let supply and demand take over, post Art 8, and Reconstruction money coming in from investment ?

Sparky   sandyf ... possibly 2 years to get to .10..., could be possible...imo......pure speculation on my part...

larrykn   Iraqi President meets Trump on sidelines of UNGA74

Iraqi President Barham Salih met with US counterpart Donald Trump at the Lotte New York Palace hotel on the sidelines of the 74 session of the United Nations General Assembly.

During the meeting, Salih said that Iraq is responsible for protecting its own territory and sovereignty, adding that Baghdad has achieved great victories in combating terrorism and we are in the process of reconstruction.

On the other hand, Trump said that the elimination of ISIS terrorist group is a major achievement, pointing out, "our relations with Iraq is long and good."   https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/43973/Iraqi-President-meets-Trump-on-sidelines-of-UNGA74

Larrykn   Abadi meets British ambassador, discusses bilateral co-op

Former Prime Minister and head of Al-Nasr alliance Haider Al-Abadi held a meeting on Wednesday with British ambassador to Baghdad John Wilkes to discuss enhancing joint cooperation between the two countries.

During the meeting, the duo discussed the political, security and economic situation in Iraq and the Arab region and their impact on the many world countries, Abadi's office said in a statement.

They also talked about the British participation in reconstructing Iraq, in addition to promoting the bilateral cooperation between the two countries in all fields.

For his part, Abadi stressed Iraq's earnest desire to develop relations with both countries and to serve the common interests. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/43974/Abadi-meets-British-ambassador-discusses-bilateral-co-op

larrykn   Iraq attends Middle East Strategic Alliance meetings in US

Iraq participated in the Middle East Strategic Alliance (MESA) meetings kicked off on Wednesday at the headquarters of the US State Department in Washington.

The MESA meetings are headed by the US Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo.

The alliance is known to be against Iran.

The meeting will be held for two days, at the United Nations headquarters on the sidelines of the meetings of the 74 session of the General Assembly with the participation of the Gulf States and Jordan.

An official US source said that the alliance is centered on confronting Iran and other threats in the region," describing the meeting as "it will be very important."

During the meetings, the ongoing arrangements for the Alliance project in the political, security, military and energy spheres will be discussed with the participation of the member states of the alliance.

The current tensions in the Middle East will also addressed during the MESA meetings. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/43975/Iraq-attends-Middle-East-Strategic-Alliance-meetings-in-US

larrykn   One IMIS militant killed in ISIS attack in Baquba

One IMIS militant has been killed in an ISIS attack in northern Baquba, Diyala Governorate, security sources told The Baghdad Post on Wednesday.

The ISIS attack targeted an IMIS position in Khanaqin district in Baquba.

Several IMIS vehicles have been destroyed in the attack.

Governmental forces have taken tightened security measures in the vicinity of the attack scene.

The deceased’s body has been taken to the forensic medicine department.

The Iran-backed IMIS militias have repeatedly attacked civilians all over Iraq.

They have a record of killing Sunnis and looting their stores, particularly in the regions liberated from ISIS, according to eyewitnesses.

https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/43976/One-IMIS-militant-killed-in-ISIS-attack-in-Baquba

Doug_WSilver:$18.67

Chattels   I trust that those who have continually challenged and demeaned sandyf and Kap about the currency issued by Iraq will now STFU. https://cbi.iq/static/uploads/up/file-156879800127996.pdf

  chattels   US Embassy in Baghdad tells US citizens in Iraq to be on alert for terrorist attacks in major cities.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mdar/id1056612204?ls=1&mt=8  …

chattels   Tuesday, September 24, 2019 3 Province Poll Finds Most Iraqis Feeling Secure

http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/09/3-province-poll-finds-most-iraqis.html

chattels   The group PAX released a survey on security in Iraq in July 2019. It interviewed 1,429 people in Basra, Kirkuk and Salahaddin. The last two were post-war zones, while Basra provided the perspective of Iraqis not directly involved in the conflict. It found that people generally thought the country was better off, although there was some trepidation about the future.

In general, respondents felt better about their safety. When asked how would you rate your personal security 60% said they were safer versus 40% who said the opposite.

When asked why, 92% said they felt less exposed to attacks, 76% said they saw fewer weapons, 53% said they could travel more, and 48% said they could leave their home feeling safe. 65% told the survey teams this situation was unchanged from 2018, with only 14% saying things had gotten worse.

Two years after the war against the Islamic State ended, and with attacks at the lowest level in the country since 2003 these responses should not be surprising. Even in Kirkuk and Salahaddin where the militants were still active, they are limited mostly to rural areas, and do not affect most of the population.

chattels   Abdul Mahdi's visit to China will reflect negatively on Iraq and affect its relationship with America

Wednesday 25 September 10:56 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=789280

Doug_W   Currency issued~~~~48,589,655,939 so much for that argument

chattels    Economist / Nina /: Iraq is a sovereign country and its relationship with China does not affect the US economic relations

Wednesday 25 September 09:58 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=789267

chattels   Doug_W Unless one cannot believe everything reported by the CBI, eh ?

Doug_W   IMO China has just set Iroc up to do exactly waht they USED to do to US and that is steal everything they can

Doug_W   chattels amen

chattels   Baghdad / Nina / Foreign currency markets in Baghdad, on Wednesday, stabilized the exchange rate of the US dollar against the Iraqi dinar.

The market price in Baghdad Stock Exchange struggle 1203 dinars per dollar, or 120 thousand and 300 dinars for one hundred dollars.

https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=789286

 chattels   The central bank sells more than $ 244 million at a currency auction

Wednesday 25 September 13:32 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=789323

Doug_W   Surplus~~~1,179,008,490

chattels   Dinar Exchange rate under control, but the volume of sales at auction continue to be relatively high

Tebow   Doug_WCurrency issued~~~~48,589,655,939 so much for that argument, No the argument is still on. If you look at the total assets and liabilities they are the same. How can the be the same figure??????? Something is not right!!!!!

Spankie   more bogus iqd figures out there will stop speculative investment- iraq been out there mucho with funky reports

EricB   Zig Did you say a while back that you could pass along a question or two to Kap?

EricB   @Kaperony @sandyf Assuming the CBI is removing large notes from circulation via the auctions, destroying them and crediting them electronically AND assuming all employees in Iraq have bank accounts and the banks aren't distributing large sacks of cash to them AND assuming people in Iraq receiving govt benefits or subsistence also are not receiving large sacks of cash when they walk out of the banks,

it would seem the CBI would have a good handle on the large notes in circulation. My questions are this: Would the CBI be able to manipulate the stated quantity of currency electronically and discreetly? Did past govts that redenominated have these electronic technology/tools at the time they redenominated? Thank you.

EricB   Tebow Other than the daily news, most facts are already known. Redenom, peg, managed float or free float are the options, which path is taken is opinion at this point. I simply try to pick up bits of info here and there that might lend credibility to one or the other. Insulting people is ignorant and immature, but hey you are good at it.

EricB   xyz I'm tall enough already... I just like to see what kap, sandyf and others may know, if anything. The KELFLA guy had some interesting posts. Who knows what is accurate these days

Young_SC   EricB well like i said i want Kap to post that article quoting from the finance minister, CBI or the GOI saying in their own direct words that there is no such thing as an RI/RV because of too much currency in circulation

Young_SC   It is simple but for some reason Kap nor other individuals cannot understand that logic

Young_SC   Its not about making fun of Kap i just want proof or in print from the straight IRAQI source

EricB   Young_SC Agreed. Did he say they made that statement?

Doug_W   what I don't undertstand is why however much is "out there" has anybearing on a value

Doug_W   LOOK how much USD is out there and our value stays fairly constant

Young_SC   EricB Ive already posted 4 to 5 articles coming from the GOI or CBI stating no float only fixed rate and wanting to give purchasing power/raising the value of its currency

Young_SC   I just want Kap to do the same  That is all

Doug_W   I personally think having a stable SAFE environment 4 investors to bring cash into Iraq has FAR more weight than amount in circulation

Clay   Doug_W I agree with you

Clay   Young_SC yes seen that

Clay   no float   yet Kap insists

Young_SC Doug_W    its amazing how you mentioned the USD but yet KAP thinks Iraq cannot do the same

Clay   fairly

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IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 9-24-19

IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 9-24-19

Kaperoni   I am here just a a minute to answer the following...

Kaperoni    23 Sep 19, 07:35 PM larrykn   now if they can remove 1 Trillion dinar off the streets in one year whats to say they couldn't remove lets say 30 trillion dinar off the streets by not renewing it or replacing it, and then I always wonder what does removing of the zeros mean, could that remove the Trillions to Billions???

Kaperoni   Larry, there is a simple answer to this question...

Kaperoni   The auctions...

Kaperoni   The principal of the auctions is to maintain a "balance" between dinar and dollars to create stability. Currently, the CBI has maintained a 2% or less difference between the official rate and market rate as a result for some 16 months.

Kaperoni   If you were to remove the dinar it would create an "imbalance" and create demand. Therefore, the market rate would rise as a result of that demand. So not only does the auction provide a source of dollars to pay for imports, and a revenue for the CBI (commissions) but it is a tool of the CBI.

And for that reason, they cannot remove the dinar at this time until the have an alternative to replace the auctions. That alternative could be a market economy and convertible currency that is accepted and traded worldwide.

Kaperoni   That is why they cannot significantly reduce the money supply in Iraq. That is why a float makes sense. Because once in Article VIII, and floating the CBI can use it's new tools to buy/sell currency and reduce the dinar gradually.

Kaperoni   ok later.

Jo   Kaperoni Thank You

Jo   Proof of Geoengineering, Cloud Seeding, Weather Manipulation, Chemtrails https://youtu.be/kzgPF-NGU4g?t=1837

Jo   Eyes up. Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies!

Xbruster69    the need for small categories... https://search4dinar.wordpress.com/2019/09/23/the-central-bank-issues-a-decision-to-cover-the-market-need-of-small-monetary-categories/

Doug_W   Silver:$18.65

Chattels   ERBIL, Kurdistan Region — Iraq’s parliament has approved a bill to create a domestic arms manufacturing authority to establish basic military self-sufficiency and better preserve its national security amid heightened regional tension.

Iraq’s parliament voted Monday to establish the “Military Industrial Authority” in the presence of 190 MPs, according to a parliament readout.

The contents of the bill were not disclosed by the readout. However, Iraqi media purportedly obtained a copy.

The bill was presented “due to the importance of military manufacture in establishing and achieving national security, supporting the national economy, making use of national expertise … and to achieving national sovereignty,” according to the bill copy.  https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/240920191

chattels   Parliament officially turns its session into secret

Tuesday , 24 September 2019   Baghdad ( NINA ) - The House of Representatives officially turned its session into secret.   Mehdi Taqi, a member of the parliamentary security and defense committee, said in a statement to Nina that the parliament session was officially transformed into secret, without specifying the reasons for turning it into secret. https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=789126

spankie   secretly raising the deenar

chattels   Probably secret to vote on the dinar, eh ? Some guru will assert as much.

chattels   spankie :)

Clay   I wish

spankie   yeah   Clay easy money--

Chattels   BAGHDAD / NINA / Parliamentarians and representatives of the provinces and political blocs deliberated on the demands that the meeting be confidential during the presentation of the paragraph reading and voting on the report of security and defense on security incidents, included in the agenda.

https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=789111

chattels   The Central Bank announces amendments to the controls on the declaration of funds entering and leaving Iraq

Tuesday , 24 September 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=789109

chattels   About time for another bogus guru claim that Iraq has closed it's borders or is not allowing Dinar to leave the country, eh ?

chattels   BAGHDAD / NINA / The Babylon Criminal Court sentenced the former mayor of Hilla to seven years in prison after being convicted of bribery.

According to a statement of the Supreme Judicial Council that: the second body in the Babylon Criminal Court sentenced to seven years imprisonment against the former mayor of Hilla , director of the crime of abuse of bribes in exchange for the performance of his career.

https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=789106

chattels   Not much for news out there that I can find. Have a fine day all.

Dj   Imo, it's already happening, doing it in tiers and fluctuating the rate as they go based on how many ppl put money back into the markets and such.. course not seen first hand yet..

Dj   Guess we see. We shall see. Just curious, lot of u guys like to harrass ppl with opinions different than yours. What happens when everyone else is right, not saying that your opinions are wrong. You disagree with Kap and talk * to him but I haven't seen anyone show proof that hes wrong..

Zig   Dj "Doing it in tiers and fluctuating the rate as they go based on how many ppl put money back into the markets and such".......................Curious: Is this your opinion or did you hear that from someone else??

Dj   Formulating my own opinion based on what I read see and hear  Not any particular guru

Doug_W   Dj good keep doing that and you will SOON realize u R being led down the wrong path

Dj   Doug_W that's what I mean, how do you know you are, without a doubt correct..

Doug_W   correct in waht that there are no tiers?

Zig   Dj : I agree with you that people like you are not treated very well in here in general......

Doug_W   that is over 10 years of being lied to by all the gurus is how :)

Doug_W   Zig ther are exceptions to that

Dj   Unless some here is sitting in the conference room of the cbi going over these particular matters, no one really knows.

Doug_W   very true NO one really "knows" 4 sure

Dj   And it's possible I'm a bit ignorant compared to some having only been studying dinar for 3 weeks...

Doug_W   that's OK U will learn as I stated B4 :)

Dj   But still fresh eyes looking at actual articles posted by the cbi and iraq. And yes I am one of the few that is overly optimistic about just about anything 🤣

Doug_W   as long as U keep that in the correct proportion to the rest of your life that is a good way to B

madness   just got whipped in poker what is new in dinar land, what did I miss

Dave   hmmmm.......Not much madness

madness   ok  im hoping iraq is close to becoming international soon   alot out there think oct.1st or soon after  if it does not go by the end of oct. think its safe to say we gonna have to wait till 2020 for sure

Tebow   madness yes then 2020 maybe

madness   well I think the theory is oct 1st is the new banking quarter, so if they dont go global, then yeah 2020 hope im wrong

Dave   madness still not sure on Iraq opening up the private sector.,...high unemployment ,just 23% of the pop using banks.......still awaiting those important laws....CBI going global.........?

Dave   recent article adding up to almost a trillion usd which benefited the corruptors....? I do not know what comes after a trillion in terms of Dinar....

Dave   Quadrillion............ i think   15 zeros.......

Dave   so what is only 3 zeros........somehow we have a problem processing that   only 13 zero deficit......

Dave   wonder where we would be today if CBI had all those zeros?

Baxter   9-24-2019 Newshound Guru Jeff ...I'm no longer looking at September. I'm looking ahead past September...yesterday an article came out saying that they're gonna replace current smaller categories in circulation. The 250s, the 500s, the 1000 denoms...has nothing to do with the rate change...

the ones currently in circulation are getting worn out...If Iraq had intentions or planned to change the rate during the year 2019 do you still think they would be replacing the notes...?

From my own opinion that could suggest to me that they might not have intentions of changing the rate during the year of 2019. That might suggest they have intentions of doing it during the year 2020...

I'm gonna bring you everything...this isn't good or bad. This is the reality with this investment...we have to set our emotions aside in this...if we can't set our emotions aside we probably shouldn't be in this.

Wilder   https://news.coinupdate.com/iraq-new-and-improved-banknotes-include-new-design-representing-assyrian-community/  article from last year   

Dave   Wilder so it seems that cbi aint deleting any zeros yet

Wilder   Dave i don't know Dave. And if you read on down through the article it explained Kuwaits reinstatement

Dave   Wilder not on that article?

Wilder   Dave being that was last year maybe they have changed. I was trying to find an article I seen somewhere the other day where it said something about new polymer notes.

Wilder   Dave https://www.investopedia.com/terms/forex/k/kwd-kuwaiti-dinar.asp    this might have been the Dave

Dave   Kuwait had to kill the Kuwaiti Dinar.......and reintroduced it once Iraq was removed from there

Zig   We have a member who made money from the Kuwaiti Dinar....

Dave   I have gained too on my Dinar

Zig   Kuwaiti Dinar Story at https://www.iqdcalls.com/other.html Down the page a bit..

Dave   Zig   and?

Dave   missed that boat   same with bitcoin microsoft

Andrewetoldthem   sometimes dinar investor jeff say things when it doesnt come to light then he start having doubts thats why i say sometimes most of the things he say its acurrent not all time he feel like because the education ministry didnt happen on sept 21 he think everything going to happen in 2020

lets say he is right i will have to find something to do in the mean while but he is not right i wont call him wrong because if thats the case the media will be right and the democrats and donald trump dont like being wrong because if iraq dont break off the ice and wait to 2020 we will be going into recession like the media keep wishing for

 and donald trump know its not good for his re election and the president of iraq wouldnt be in united state right now meeting with donald trump and his campaign

on thursday the president of iraq will be going back to iraq with mahdi well wednesday night they are not going to stay here for the whole united nations because its not that important to our side

thats why after the meeting of freedom of religion happen donald trump and the president of iraq didnt even go to the climate change meeting and they would of not able to get a deal done with china if they were not close to change the rates

and idk if he been paying attention even on the xe.com everything change its not because he didnt see the education ministry done yet he already doubting things because it didnt happen when he want it

ask your self this you really think trump like to lose you really think nasdaq china etc will be doing business with iraq if they always going to stay worthless..............

Dave   man if i sank what put into my dinar into microsoft yrs back.........

Doug_W   Dave I got Winebago in 74 I believe at .34 a share bought 1K shares

Andrewetoldthem   https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=IQD&To=USD

Andrewetoldthem   its on read and everything is changing on that website

Dave   Doug_W shudda coudda wooda  silver up a tad

Andrewetoldthem   red   its on red and everything is changing on that website

Dave   18.57 oz

Doug_W   its selling now for about $40.00 a share

Dave   Doug_W wow

Doug_W   at one time it was over 100 a share

Dave   Doug_W only 1k.......?

Andrewetoldthem   https://www.yahoo.com/news/iraq-join-chinas-belt-road-project-134211955.htm l the education ministry its going to get done real soon to finish and fulfil their government after this united nations meeting when the president of iraq and mahdi go back to iraq thats their plan its to finish the government to many agreement to many deals to many things concluded

they cant keep delaying nothing or they will have sanctions they know that and thats trump

its meeting with saleh right now tomorrow you will here the news you watch talk about it and give a statement of how the meeting went

 donald trump dont want war dont want recession and market crash everything i tell you --  you here it out their mouth the people on our side -- i told your everything would like a deja vu of 2008--  but its not going to be like it if you realize the president before they tell you one thing then do another thing

well donald trump understand it and he reversing it --  why you think obama say donald trump will reverse everything they ever did im going to show you that but i cant show you the video of their meeting yet until your news talk about it and give a statement about it

Andrewetoldthem    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-rolling-back-obama-rules/?utm_term=.77cea8bb0729 

Andrewetoldthem   https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1378/reverse-barack-obamas-cuba-policy/

Andrewetoldthem   https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/08/trump-is-repeating-obamas-executive-action-mistake/596056/

Andrewetoldthem   https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/23/trump-obama-foreign-policy-226708

Dave   going to a fancy restaurant and not looking at the price list........

Andrewetoldthem   trust me you dont wont to know what the democrats have for your they willing to replace humans for robots if you had watch the whole united nations meeting last night and this morning you would of hear them talk about it how they dont wont that to happen

Andrewetoldthem   the democrats pushing for trump to fail because they know if he fail and they able to get him out of office your going to pay for everything ill show you that 2

Andrewetoldthem   and thats why we fighting for that not to happen

 Andrewetoldthem   https://www.humanoids.com/

Andrewetoldthem   https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/22/russia-launches-life-size-humanoid-robot-into-space.html

Andrewetoldthem   you dont know half of the story now its the time to doubt trump because your not seeing it play out how you want its all part of the plan if you’re like that that means you’re  not with us in the first place and loyalty means everything to trump

Andrewetoldthem   the only way to stop the democrats its by keeping trump and office because the minute his out human nature will be destroy by 2030 they want this whole world to be humanoid that means your job  2 will be gone ill show you that 2

Andrewetoldthem   Robots 'to replace up to 20 million factory jobs' by 2030. Up to 20 million manufacturing jobs around the world could be replaced by robots by 2030, according to analysis firm Oxford Economics.Jun 26, 2019

Andrewetoldthem   https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48760799

Andrewetoldthem   its not a game dont let your emotions fool you because the democrats are not playing

Andrewetoldthem   theres alot happening behind the scenes on both side your dont know about

Andrewetoldthem   i bet he dont even know the small categories its already done and they already showing it to their citizens  -- i could show your that to your not seeing everything playing out how you wont because its part of the plan and thats how you could see whos with you and whos not loyalty come from when you make people start second guessing you

Wilder   Andrewetoldthem thanks for the updates. Now show me the money.

 Andrewetoldthem   its in arabic the video its a person from iraq that made the video they going to have it out publicly when the rate its going to be ready to change they just training their citizens on it

it will be to currency coexist for like a year or 2 after that the 25k dinars etc will be worthless if you dont change it during the time frame the rate change will be for the small categories not for the 25k etc.... its call currency swap   Andrewetoldthem   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y2TNXAgKq4

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Andrewetoldthem   A currency swap, also known as a cross-currency swap, is an off-balance sheet transaction in which two parties exchange principal and interest in different currencies. ...

At the end of the agreement, they will swap again using the same exchange rate, closing out the deal

Andrewetoldthem   everytime i hear him keep talking about proxy proxy i want to tell him jeff dinar investor do you even know the meaning of the word you keep saying

Andrewetoldthem   A Proxy is a central machine on the network that allows other machines in that network to use a shared Internet connection. Proxy servers are intermediate servers which accept requests from clients and forward them to other proxy servers, a source server, or service the request from their own cache

Andrewetoldthem   i dont have nothing against dinar investor jeff most of the things he say 7/10 his right just not all the time now most of the time currency 365 wow and some of his compenients wow sometimes i ask myself does he really get over 3k views by his self sometimes for real because it cant be wow frank 26 ok vital brad ok dinar investor ok theres some few thats ok but currency 365 and his compenients wow

Andrewetoldthem   the education ministry its coming up after tomorrow saleh mahdi and haboussi thats their next agenda mission and goal to have it being fulfilled sworn in and complete the education ministry to move to the next step and start sky rocket for the rests of the foreign countries to follow their footstep united nations big meeting show it idk how can people still doubt it because its not going the way they want everybody trying to be a shot caller \

Andrewetoldthem   the next goal is to have the education ministry sworn in and complete their government and have a full seated and succeed government after tomorrow when they go back to iraq thats their next mission bye have a great day we in the right direction they met with donald trump on that reason and futuremoney i really dont have time for name calling right now got to go have a great day America calls on its citizens in Iraq to wake up be awake because the future wait on no 1 even you already protected

Andrewetoldthem   America calls on its citizens in Iraq to wake up

Zig   Andrewetoldthem    : Thanks....don't understand some of the stuff you bring but IMO you contribute more here than some others who think that they do.....when all they do here is criticize others and post a bunch of nothing....

Andrewetoldthem   Urgent Abdul Mahdi to visit Saudi Arabia tomorrow to meet King Salman and Crown Prince

Andrewetoldthem   Decisions of the Council of Ministers in its meeting today (expanded)

Andrewetoldthem   no problem have a great day every one its time to be awake i wouldnt make things up everything i tell you coming out their own mouth i study the system next up is to study the system of the democrats with the humanoid to try and stop it have a great day

Andrewetoldthem   got to go have a great day thats all i want it to say

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IQD CALLS Chat Monday Evening 9-23-19 Part 2 of 2

IQD CALLS Chat Monday Evening 9-23-19 Part 2 of 2

Young_SC      Kaperoni Facts from the Finance minster? Alak? CBI? GOI?

Zig   I don't

Dave   what about that article from saleh from a few yrs ago

Kaperoni   You take everything from the CBI as truth, fact and Tebow says no float cause the CBI said...now that there is a document from the CBI stating the money supply you disregard it? that is hypocritical.

Kaperoni   There is no RV. later.

Kaperoni   see    ya zig

Dave     Kaperoni Saleh article 4T

Zig"2019-06-17 07:11   The Central Bank of Iraq revealed on Monday the amount of cash mass outside the Iraqi banks, pointing out that it is more than 39 trillion dinars"................VERY RECENT  6-17-2019

Dave   Zig and the COI has frozen 120 billion usd in foreign accts

Dave   at least .......

Dave   thats a few T yeh?

Sparky   Dave ... I simply get stuck on how they can support and sustain anything besides where they are at now... pressure is needed to raise the value and sustain it...but, I have really no idea...maybe they can pull a rabbit out of their hat...who knows...not me... just looking for some positive movement...

chattels   " Melania ringing the opening bell and US Marshalls ringing the closing bell could be a sign……let’s hope it is..." - 9-23-2019 Intel Guru MarkZ

chattels   A sign of what ?

chattels   What on earth does the honorary opening and closing of the stock exchange have to do with our event ?

chattels   Here's your sign.

chattel   shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBjelRDKHUk

chattels   I am not sympathetic to people who will say most anything, but I am less sympathetic to those that will believe everything said.

Dave   Sparky who said cbi was ready for anything

Dave   chattels stiff upper lip

chattels   My presence and continuing participation in the dinar world may belie my own gullibility and naivete.

Dave   chattels you work on whats most probable or reasonable...correct?

Dave   beyond a reason of o doubt

Dave   gotn qa run

Sparky   Dave ... nobody with a clue...

Sparky   Dave ...imo, a few more hurdles to jump over...

Sparky   Dave ...more secure and stable today...but... tomorrow may take 10 steps back... especially if Israel and Suadi get serious about Iran...

Sparky   ...why bother with Kap's opinion, if you don't agree, simply agree to disagree...no need to slander the man... just allow him to have an opportunity to express his opinion...no force is involved...

Sparky   ...no gun to your head... I respect the man for sharing his opinion in this room, it's a better place, with Kap contribution here...imo...

Foxmulder   Everyone has their opinions, Kap thinks he is correct because of his research. I go by possibilities . Nothing is done until it is aBLOODY DONE .. period ! I wait patiently...

foxmulder   unlike some people I have actually made money on currency ! When Iraq opens their market and traded on the forex .. then I will pay attention. Currency fluctuates !!! That's a fact.regardless what country it is.

Sparky   xyz ... nobody should be berated, because of differing opinions...it should never get that far...

Foxmulder   Sparky people seem to think that guidelines are to be followed to the letter ! Totally respect opinions by others . I just think their assessment is not exactly as they claim .

Zig   Sparky : The voice of reason speaks..... :Thumbs-up

Sparky   foxmulder ...Future project of Iraq...?

foxmulder   Sparky I'm looking my last who has all the previous outlines is not in contact . But that is one of many .

Foxmulder   IRAQS currency will reflect their GDP accross the board. The main objective is to eliminate corruption.

Chattels   Iraqi Parliamentary Defense Committee: most of the political blocs in Parliament want a law to expel US forces. We are pressuring Parliamentary leadership to get this done.   LINK  …

chattels    Have a fine evening all.

foxmulder   Yep great news ! So much for our good friends in Iraq

chattels    ERBIL, Kurdistan Region – Baghdad should pay Erbil’s debts to international oil companies before the Kurdish administration agrees to send 250,000 barrels per day (bpd) of oil to Iraq in exchange for its share of the federal budget, Kurdish MPs have said.

According to 2017 data, the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) owed an estimated $3 billion to oil companies operating in the Kurdistan Region. https://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/230920193

xyz   Zig ever heard of complex molecule?

chattels   The Iraqi government has $87 billion in reserves and can easily afford to repay the debts, he claimed.

foxmulder   And we are counting on these clowns .. what the heck was I thinking

chattels   According to Mirza, Baghdad is currently sending the KRG just 454 billion IQD – enough to cover public sector salaries. Under the 2019 budget agreement, Baghdad is supposed to send the KRG an additional 68 billion IQD to pay the salaries of its Peshmerga armed forces

Chattels   A KRG delegation will also soon visit Baghdad to thrash out the issue, after Abdul-Mahdi returns from a high-level visit to China.

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foxmulder   COMPLEX MOLECULE. Some molecules, such as the plastic in a snorkel, contain hundreds or even thousands of carbon, hydrogen, and chlorine atoms joined together in long, winding chains. Such complex molecules are called polymers

Sparky   xyz ... I hold Dinar, if that is what you mean...and, hope to profit substantially...

Sparky   foxmulder ... yes, slow, gradual rise in value, due to inflationary pressure caused by investment...in the Reconstruction phase...yet to come... after Art 8 acceptance by Iraq..

Foxmulder   Sparky boulderdash, Iraq and the CBI can do whatever they choose to do . Whatever course they decide nothing and I mean nothing is written in stone concerning their desire to change their policy concerning currency.

Foxmulder   The IMF are guidlines

foxmulder   Sparky me either

Larrykn   hi all

Sparky   xyz ...else what ? You'll turn me into a frog ?

larrykn   I was reading what Kap posted above

larrykn   The Central Bank of Iraq, on Monday, the amount of cash mass outside the Iraqi banks, pointing out that it is more than 39 trillion dinars.

The bank said in an official statistics seen by Alsumaria News that the amount of currency outside the banks amounted to 39 trillion and 796 billion and 700 million dinars during January 2019, noting that this amount decreased from December of 2018, which amounted to 40 Trillion and 498 billion and 67 million dinars. "

Larrykn   now if they can remove 1 Trillion dinar off the streets in one year whats to say they couldn't remove lets say 30 trillion dinar off the streets by not renewing it or replacing it, and then I always wonder what does removing of the zeros mean, could that remove the Trillions to Billions???

Sparky   larrykn ... first off, trillions to billions is a lop...pretty simple... unless they practice magic, like Z...

Sparky   larrykn ...only 2 ways to turn T to B...fast...ie LOP...or slow, ie float... slowly...

Sparky   larrykn ...the latter would make us profitable, over time...imo

Sparky   xyz ... wish my pockets were that deep...

Sparky   xyz ... I'm gonna throw my hat in for PM...

Sparky   xyz ... couldn't be any worse...

Sparky   larrykn ... another question, how would the day to day economy survive, if they didn't Renew the notes ?

Sparky   ...oh well, time for bed...

Xyz   The central bank issues a decision to cover the market need of small monetary categories

http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17838

The Central Bank of Iraq, on Monday, to cancel the fine shortage of deposits of small categories of banks, attributing the decision to cover the market need of new notes for small cash groups.

"In order to cover the market need of new banknotes for small cash denominations" 250, 500 and 1000, "it was decided to cancel the shortage that may appear in bank deposits of small cash denominations for a limited period," the bank said in a statement received by the Economy News. , Indicating that "it comes to achieve the desired goal of withdrawing the damaged cash currency in circulation."

He added that "the counting and sorting of banknotes damaged for these categories require time and effort from the competent staff for the difficulty of counting in the counting machines."

Xyz   9-23-2019 Intel Guru Frank26 ...What Iraq is doing is introducing a new small category note to replace the old three zero notes because those three zero notes are going to become as extinct as a brontosaurus. They'll eventually fade away...you can not use the three zero notes with the new rate that they're going to introduce.

sandyf   Young_SC sandyf The "Finance Committee in the Iraqi Council of Representatives announced on Monday (19-August-2019) the" government direction to reinstate the currency and delete zeros from paper currency in order to strengthen the national economy

I have never questioned what has been reported by Iraq or the CBI, only the interpretation of the reports. Iraq has been saying since 2007 that the plan to remove the zeros for all sort of reasons.

You just refuse to accept that replacing the IQD with a currency of a higher value is a revaluation of the dinar and which would achieve all the objectives you keep referring to. Views that appear to be based on an ignorance relating to the difference between the monetary unit and the currency.

sandyf   @JoeSchmoe This kinda scares me, because of what people say about both notes coinciding for 10 years---After redenomination, old notes may still circulate for a time, but are usually exchanged for the new redenominated currency.

There is a lot of confusion over co-existence. Initially dual pricing will come into effect where both currencies are accepted in retail outlets. This will only happen for so long, possibly about a year. thereafter the old currency can only be exchanged at designated banks, that is where the 10 years would come in.

Internationally it is a different ball game all together. A country can only have one national currency and international banks will only exchange the national currency. The day a redenomination takes place the IQD will no longer be the national currency.

As I have said before as far as redenomination goes, Iraq faces an extremely complex problem with regards to the amount of currency outside the country, something that no other country that has redenominated has had to deal with.

Dave   nor has any other country been bombed into obscurity/sanctioned ...looking for weapons of mass destruction.....?

Dave   IQN......have not heard about that for awhile

Dave   so yes different situation....agrred

Kaperoni   I am here just a a minute to answer the following...

Kaperoni    23 Sep 19, 07:35 PM larrykn   now if they can remove 1 Trillion dinar off the streets in one year whats to say they couldn't remove lets say 30 trillion dinar off the streets by not renewing it or replacing it, and then I always wonder what does removing of the zeros mean, could that remove the Trillions to Billions???

Kaperoni   Larry, there is a simple answer to this question...

Kaperoni   The auctions...

Kaperoni   The principal of the auctions is to maintain a "balance" between dinar and dollars to create stability. Currently, the CBI has maintained a 2% or less difference between the official rate and market rate as a result for some 16 months.

Kaperoni   If you were to remove the dinar it would create an "imbalance" and create demand. Therefore, the market rate would rise as a result of that demand. So not only does the auction provide a source of dollars to pay for imports, and a revenue for the CBI (commissions) but it is a tool of the CBI.

And for that reason, they cannot remove the dinar at this time until the have an alternative to replace the auctions. That alternative could be a market economy and convertible currency that is accepted and traded worldwide.

Kaperoni   That is why they cannot significantly reduce the money supply in Iraq. That is why a float makes sense. Because once in Article VIII, and floating the CBI can use it's new tools to buy/sell currency and reduce the dinar gradually.

Kaperoni   ok later.

Jo   Kaperoni Thank You

Jo   Proof of Geoengineering, Cloud Seeding, Weather Manipulation, Chemtrails https://youtu.be/kzgPF-NGU4g?t=1837

Jo   Eyes up. Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies!

Xbruster69    the need for small categories... https://search4dinar.wordpress.com/2019/09/23/the-central-bank-issues-a-decision-to-cover-the-market-need-of-small-monetary-categories/

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IQD CALLS Chat Monday Evening 9-23-19 Part 1 of 2

IQD CALLS Chat Monday Evening 9-23-19 Part 1 of 2

Dave   you folks missed that post from Salah from the other day......

Dave   or his comments about there only being 4T in circulation .....not 42T

Dave   the article was 4 yrs old however

Dave   Saleh....oops

Clay   Dave no

Young_SC   Dave Kap said even it is just only 1t, that is still alot in circulation lol

Dave   Young_SC 42T to 4 T now down to 1T

Dave   still too m uch

Dave   wonder how much dinar is being held in North America?

Dave   which will remain for 10 yrs in reserve

Clay   enough to pay for the war according to Bush

Clay   whether true or not

Larrykn   sandyf if you read what I posted I said this was an old article, you can twist things anyway you want but that is what they are telling us back then, but I guess you gurus need to get your point across no matter what. good going

Dave   Clay yes ,without Bush making this possible i doubt we would be here

Clay    Dave agree                                                                                                                                                          

Dave   blame him dang it......

Zig   HOT OFF THE PRESS!!......Kaperoni Tweets!!......Read all about it!!!...... ;read;

Michael Kaperoni @kaperoni.........

"The truth is Iraq is trying to pass laws to support investment, create the conditions to launch a market economy, invite countries/private companies to come and participate. But it takes time. If and when that happens, the dinar might begin to appreciate"......

"I am often held to a high standard when i discuss subjects to prove what I am saying..providing links to documents or articles. But the guru's can spew nonsense and everyone believes them time and time again. Lol"

Zig   Hi Kap.........

 Kaperoni   Zig, please stop talking about DA and its services when referring to me. It is not my website, I only post there I have no financial gain. But when you start constantly talking about a site and include me it becomes fact to the masses. And that's not correct. I post on several sites primarily DA but that doesn't mean that I have anything to do with the website other than that.

Kaperoni   It's gotten to a point now where I come on this chat room and people want to talk to me about the website how it makes money etc and it's services rather than talk to me about what I do which is research the dinar and I have no time for that because it's not my site.

Zig   Kaperoni : Okay....but I have no control over others in here......

Kaperoni   I have not seen any articles cuz I haven't had time. But if somebody wants to summarize something quickly I will answer it

Young_SC   Kaperoni hello

Kaperoni   I'm busy today talking about the replacement notes that have been issued through the CBI for the 250, 500, 1000 due to being worn out. But we know the gurus are going to put their Twist on that

Young_SC   Kaperoni could you do me a favour

Young_SC   Kaperoni Could you kindly please post an statement which source is from the Finance minister, GOI, Alak/CBI IRAQ stating that there is no such thing as an RI/RV/Purchasing power for its citizens. You are making statements claming it to be factual information without any real relevant source. So can you kindly please provide it for the gentleman including myself and women to see please

Kaperoni   Ok young..

Zig   http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17644

Kaperoni   Young, not once has anyone ever talked about RV the dinar. They have talked about floating and redemonination (LOP). A substancial RV is not possible with in excess of 42 trillion dinar. Those numbers are real. You don't need a scientist to figure that out.

Zig   https://www.mawazin.net/Details.aspx?Jimare=61023  Are these the 2 articles http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17644

Tebow  Kaperoni 42t not a fact!

Dave   thought that article read 4T

Young_SC   Kaperoni Could you kindly please post an statement which source is from the Finance minister, GOI, Alak/CBI IRAQ stating that there is no such thing as an RI/RV/Purchasing power for its citizens. You are making statements claming it to be factual information without any real relevant source. So can you kindly please provide it for the gentleman including myself and women to see please.

Young_SC   Kaperoni ive posted 3 articles stating the direction Iraq is heading

Kaperoni   Young there is years of factual research that I have done and posted on numerous sites including DA if you want information you can go look it up

Young_SC   Kaperoni Ive asked you very kindly and you still have yet to show/provide any factual information from the CBI or the GOI stating there is no such thing as an RI/RV because of the 42 t out in circulation as you said on numerous occassions

Zig   Young_SC These? https://www.mawazin.net/Details.aspx?Jimare=61023  Are these the 2 articles http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17644

Young_SC   Zig yes

Kaperoni   And if you don't want to look it up just use Google and I'm sure you can find articles out of the Central Bank the IMF or other sources that talk about how much currency is in circulation with little effort. It's not my job to provide you with anyting

Zig   Kaperoni : Please comment about these when you have the time https://www.mawazin.net/Details.aspx?Jimare=61023  Are these the 2 articles http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17644

Dave   Zig he wont

Young_SC   Kaperoni Iraq reveals reserves of foreign currency and excludes the float of the dinar   Tuesday, December 26, 2017 LINK

  Kaperoni   Zig the coin articles mean nothing. If they LOP they will need coins.

Young_SC   KaperoniI kindly showed you a couple of the sources to back up my claim in which i stated the direction Iraq is heading towards. Now could you kindly please provide the source in which that backs up your claim for all in this chatroom to see.                                                      

Dave   round round we go with this guy ....for yrs

Young_SC   Kaperoni Still no source??

Kaperoni   There is nothing to go round and round about it's all in print but all of you are too lazy to read anything

Young_SC   In addition to the results achieved on the scope of monetary policy applications internally and convince global financial organizations, the most important official reports issued by them confirmed the success of the policy of the Central Bank to achieve an important transition to the Iraqi economy and achieve stability in the exchange rate and the recovery of the Iraqi dinar and raise its purchasing power, one of the objectives of strengthening the economy.

Young_SC    http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17644

Young_SC   Kap is that a translation Error

Young_SC   That was from the CBI kap

Young_SC   https://www.mawazin.net/Details.aspx?Jimare=61023

Young_SC   Kap that one is from the finance minster   In parliment

Young_SC   Kap could you please address those Articles

Kaperoni   There is no spin it's the facts. There are in excess of 42 trillion dinar in circulation that is documented in the IMF Article IV Consultation as well as many other sources not to mention to talk about floating the currency.

There is no talk about an RV there's too much money in circulation for such an event to ever occur. The only talk that you twist to fit your needs are articles pertaining to coins and raising the value which is if it's going to be an RV when it's in fact Parliament wanting to LOP then raise its value. Lol

Young_SC   Kaperoni Kap could you please address those articles i just posted

Kaperoni   I have already talked for weeks about those coin articles. They are from Parliament in which they want to LOP the dinar and then introduce new dinar and coins. They are not talking about an RV

Tebow   Kaperoni no where in the articles do they say LOP

Kaperoni   If you knew anything about Iraq you would know the CBI is independent. To some degree monetary policy is the responsibility of the CBI.

But that being said if there were going to remove the zeros off of the notes it would require Parliament approval in other words if they're going to LOP Parliament would have to approve or pass a law.

That is what these articles are talking about otherwise there would be no need if they were going to RV the CBI simply could do it on its own.

Dave   just wish Zig kept a log of all your rubbish

Zig   Kaperoni : So Parliament can go against the CBI and do that??

Kaperoni   It's just not possible to RV what part of that don't you understand when you have in excess of 42 trillion dinar in circulation. I am asked anyone to come forward and explain to me how you could RV with that much money in circulation and no one has ever been able to explain it because it's not possible it's ridiculous it's three times the world's money supply or more.

Tebow     Kaperoni Answer me this, do you really think if they have your so called float, people holding (anyone) are going to turn in their dinars. No they will hold them. Thus you still have your so called 42T out there.

Young_SC   Dave Tebow It is very obvious that this individual could not provide the correct informational documents/relevant direct source of his what claims to be factual information to us people in this chatroom. Kap your claims have been thrown out and such information on your end seems incorrect and  irrelevant   

Tebow   Young_SC yes per the norm 

Kaperoni   Zig no zig if the CBI wants to remove the zeros LOP they need Parliament approval to do so because it affects the entire country including globally. It is the same thing when you see other laws being passed in Iraq when the government comes forward and says Parliament needs to approve because it's significant, it affects the country a law is required to LOP.

 But I'm not saying they're going to LOP I'm saying that that is an option but a significant RV is not an option. You can also go look at any other countries including Middle East countries when they remove the zeros from the notes LOP. They also had to pass a law to do so.

Dave   Yes that is what Russia did ...lol

Dave     Baslsamic Sammuellson effect ......you wore that out buddy

Kaperoni   There is nothing to provide to any of you because it's all been posted in various forms or is available on the website directly through the IMF, World Bank, and other sources all you have to do is go look at it and you will see for yourself that it is not possible to significantly RV the dinar.

Kaperoni   The Balassa- Samuelson effect are the words from the IMF not me. It's in print it's on the IMF website it's there for your reading. If you don't believe it then I guess you didn't read it but it's not my opinion, it's the facts direct from the IMF

Kaperoni    Ok gotta go. Instead of sitting here dreaming and wishing for some magical RV that will never happen why don't you spend your time going in reading professional documentation so that you educate yourselves?

Tebow   Kaperoni where is the float fact?

Dave   No hyper inflation with your wheel barrows

Kaperoni   Here is a fact for you..from the CBI ...lmbo

Kaperoni   LINK   

Kaperoni   Central: The cash mass outside the banks is more than 39 trillion dinars

2019-06-17 07:11    The Central Bank of Iraq revealed on Monday the amount of cash mass outside the Iraqi banks, pointing out that it is more than 39 trillion dinars.

The bank said in an official statistic it was briefed by Alsumaria News that "the amount of currency outside the banks amounted in January of 2019 by 39 trillion and 796 billion and 700 million dinars," noting that "this amount fell from the month of December of 2018, which amounted to 40 Trillion and 498 billion and 67 million dinars. "

The bank added that "the highest level of currency outside banks during the past three years was in December 2016, where it reached 42 trillion and 75 billion dinars, while the lowest level of currency during the month of February of 2004, which amounted to 5 trillion and 431 million Dinar".

The Central Bank in 2011 put forward a project to delete the zeros for the structure of the currency, which the bank considered it would transfer Iraq from the country of trillions to billions, that the project was met with great opposition by the specialists and politicians in parliament.

Kaperoni   they going to RV with over 39 trillion? lmbo

Kaperoni    tebow its a reprint of a cbi press release

Tebow   Kaperoni old article

Kaperoni   young there is ur facts

Kaperoni   in excess of 39 trillion this year

Kaperoni   you think they can RV that? Lol

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Larrykn   Good Morning everyone

larrykn   Al-Halbousi stresses keeping Iraq away from war https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/43946/Al-Halbousi-stresses-keeping-Iraq-away-from-war

larrykn   Iraqi President, Pompeo meet on sidelines of UNGA 74 https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/43945/Iraqi-President-Pompeo-meet-on-sidelines-of-UNGA-74

larrykn   After Month-Long Standoff…Iran Releases British-Flagged Oil Tanker https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/43947/After-Month-Long-Standoff-Iran-Releases-British-Flagged-Oil-Tanker

larrykn   Iraqi gov’t closes 4 camps for IDPs in Nineveh https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/43943/Iraqi-gov-t-closes-4-camps-for-IDPs-in-Nineveh

larrykn   Iraq, Jordan, Egypt hold tripartite summit in New York https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/43940/Iraq-Jordan-Egypt-hold-tripartite-summit-in-New-York

Doug_W   Silver:$18.49

Chattels   There would seem to be little doubt as to the meaning of " delete the zeroes " if the old article posted by Larrykn is to be believed, eh ?

chattels   " In the longer term, Saleh said a redenomination was needed wherein three zeros will be dropped so that the 25,000-dinar banknote -- currently the largest denomination -- becomes a 25-dinar note."

chattels   https://www.rferl.org/a/iraq_said_planning_currency_overhaul_redenomination/24245867.html

chattels   I read where sandyf got maligned again for posting. Sad.

spankie   lopster

chattels   I have no great wisdom at my disposal, but I have experienced and come to believe that there is a great difference between what one knows and what one thinks that they know. We would all do well to allow for the possibility that we are wrong and someone else is right.

futuremoney   chattels that definition speaks of a Lop to me...

chattels   Thus far in this venture no one has been proven right.

chattels   futuremoney Unless one is going to change the meaning of the words.

futuremoney   pretty straight forward

chattels   sandyf takes issue with the use of the word " lop ", but my sense is that the practical economic effect of a redenomination is a " lop ".

futuremoney   that's ben my concern for about a year now...come out with the 25 notes...then give 25000 note holders a certain time frame to redeem their note for the previous amount ...or oose it

futuremoney   3 zeros in general...

futuremoney   they did that when they got rid of the 50 note...

chattels   futuremoney I think that we have to allow for that possibility. Now, whether other things can be done to increase the value of the dinar contemporaneously remain to be seen. Will or can we benefit ? I hope so.

futuremoney   I believe our investment has been a misguided journey

JoeSchmoe   futuremoney are you thinking it's going to lop now too?

chattels   futuremoney A distinct possibility.

futuremoney   don't know

foxmulder   The exchange rate ! Is the main objective for me... drop the zeros whatever.

spankie   time to sell--

JoeSchmoe   I just know that when I first got into this thing 10 + years ago, I remember that one currency site....what was it?....it always said/warned that Iraq was planning an RD.

JoeSchmoe   xe.com

foxmulder   Saleh noted that until 1980 the Iraqi dinar exchange rate was 1 dinar/$3.3 compared to $1/1,168 dinars now due to hyperinflation that occurred during the latter part of the late ousted leader Saddam Hussein's reign.   Newest

futuremoney   JoeSchmoe it used to be in red on the XE currency site

JoeSchmoe   yep

JoeSchmoe   I always figured an RD was what we wanted....new notes

JoeSchmoe   isn't the ld's basically an rd?

futuremoney   look up what google says about RD...aint pretty

JoeSchmoe   yea i know

JoeSchmoe   but could it also be a translational thing too, like much we read from over there?

futuremoney   we might have to trade our 3 zeros for the new notes , then hope the rate goes up

chattels   Head of Iraqi Integrity Commission says he is resigning due to political pressure & the role of all political blocs in continuing to spread corrupt in all areas.

http://mobp.as/dYwQp

futuremoney   if it comes to that,, I will be done

JoeSchmoe   by what we think we know about a LOP, hyperinflation is not an issue...or so we think. So what other reasons do countries LOP?

JoeSchmoe   I mean, would they LOP just because of the amount of notes reported in circulation?

JoeSchmoe   just get this thing over with finally

futuremoney   I heard they would do it just for the book keeping aspect ...getting rid of having to deal with trillion versus billions

JoeSchmoe   well in any case, no one can say they didn't warn us

futuremoney   yep

JoeSchmoe   by record, I was warned 10 years ago

futuremoney   same here but I refused...lol

JoeSchmoe   yep

JoeSchmoe   me too

Doug_W   bottom line is : as always we wait to see

JoeSchmoe   that above article which speaks of this rd, when was it dated

chattels   JoeSchmoe 2011

JoeSchmoe   chattels so there has been nothing more recently, say the past 5 years, that speaks of this?

JoeSchmoe   2011 sounds about the right time frame for when I saw it on xe.com. I've held for 10+ years, but didn't find forums til 2010

chattels   JoeSchmoe Yes, lots or " deleting the zeroes " articles, but that 2011 article is the clearest definition of what " deleting the zeroes " means, IMO.

JoeSchmoe   yea, I know we've heard of dtz A LOT lately.

spankie   wonder if they put this out for propaganda - get peeps to sell or not buy--

JoeSchmoe   back then, were they describing an RD as dtz?

JoeSchmoe   spankie that could be gurubish too

chattels   JoeSchmoe You may recall the debates over ".00086 " and removing the zeroes from the front, etc.

JoeSchmoe   and was hyperinflation a concern back then too?

JoeSchmoe   chattels who wouldn't take that and run though

chattels   JoeSchmoe Inflation has been modest in Iraq since the advent of the new Iraqi dinar.

spankie   chattels seems more likely for iraq to get ahead-

JoeSchmoe   chattels I'm just curious as to if they started talking about an RD/LOP because they might be concerned about hyperinflation possibly

JoeSchmoe   way back then

chattels   JoeSchmoe I have not been able to comprehend it myself.

Doug_W   chattels JoeSchmoe welcome to MY world

JoeSchmoe   chattels which leads me to question any other possible reasons to rd/lop?

JoeSchmoe   maybe if the whole world wasn't involved in this, lol, it would happen>?

JoeSchmoe   or so it seams at times

JoeSchmoe   seems

chattels   JoeSchmoe There are, but arguably none apply to circumstances in Iraq. See https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/redenomination.asp

JoeSchmoe   Doug_W your wolrld, and many others

JoeSchmoe   chattels the first two reasons in that first paragraph do not apply, thats for sure

JoeSchmoe   well....devaluation from decades ago maybe

chattels   I have been told that Iraq's currency will add value, but one would be have a greater appreciation in the stock market over the same period of time.

spankie   2% a month

JoeSchmoe   This kinda scares me, because of what people say about both notes coinciding for 10 years---After redenomination, old notes may still circulate for a time, but are usually exchanged for the new redenominated currency.

chattels   It has been now almost ten years for me.

chattels   What would my money be worth in stocks ?

JoeSchmoe   this is all beginning to depress me. im outa here

Doug_W   30% more at least "C"

spankie   still everything unknown- guessing

chattels   I have earned the nickname " wet blanket " over time from many.

Zig   Many of us just jumped into this for the wrong reason(s)......we were told by a friend (acquaintance) to hurry up and get in or we would miss out getting filthy rich "overnight".....we did not investigate it before taking the plunge.....and after getting in we listened to the wrong people for a while.....thinking we would be millionaires every week....thinking they were going to RV to $3 overnight.....

chattels   I posted earlier about the Integrity Commission and there is is this " related " article. HOW IRAQ’S PARLIAMENTARIANS CONTRIBUTE TO CORRUPTION

Posted by Iraqi Thoughts | Sep 23, 2019 https://1001iraqithoughts.com/2019/09/23/how-iraqs-parliamentarians-contribute-to-corruption/

Chattels   " In order to tackle corruption in Iraq, soft corruption and informal networks need to be addressed, because they enable the suitable environment for ‘hard corruption.’ This is a difficult task because it is related to a culture that sees in ‘wasta’ an important approach to get things done.

It is very challenging to achieve progress against corruption in such a culture, yet it is not impossible. Decision makers need to inform themselves how nations were able to achieve progress instead of just giving anti-corruption empty lip-service."

chattels   Lots of " lip - service " in Iraq.

chattels   As I am fond of saying, it is the difference between rhetoric and reality.

Doug_W   can be FAR apart "C"

23 Sep 19, 09:05 AM chattels   Work and the privilege of service to my fellow man is calling. Have a fine day all.

Doug_W   Silver:$18.59

Doug_W   Silver:$18.700 that is PLUS .64

Andrewetoldthem   the meeting with united nations started today and finish on the 30th today its about climate change the youth and freedom of religion

Andrewetoldthem   tomorrow its about economic reform unity and global etc...... including iraq the president of iraq its already there and i think mahdi will arrive tomorrow and have a seperate conversation with trump campAIGN ON THE SIDE AFTER

Wilder   We pray for a great report

Doug_W   what did Andrew tell them?

Wilder   Doug_W to show you the money.

Doug_W   Silver:$18.72

Wilder   Silver predicted for $20.00 plus next month. We shall see.

Young_SC   9-23-2019 Newshound Guru Jeff ...Iraq just shifted gears on you...they have to have a permanent completed formed government without proxy positions...the Education Minister has to be voted in and then as of this morning the news is telling you that "temporary" does not mean "stability". They have to get rid of the temporary proxy positions during the month of October...basically they're telling you they have a drop dead date of October 24th...this throws a curve-ball into things...

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