IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 12-5-19

IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 12-5-19

larrykn   Official: death toll of Iraq protests rises to 460 people https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44950/Official-death-toll-of-Iraq-protests-rises-to-460-people

larrykn   France reiterates support to find way out of Iraq crisis https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44952/France-reiterates-support-to-find-way-out-of-Iraq-crisis

Doug_W   OPEC to cut oil production by 1.3 Million barrels a day

larrykn   I wonder how much that would be for all of the ME

larrykn   I meant a breakdown to each country

Doug_W   IDK Larry

chattels   Baghdad lauds KRG cooperation as oil-for-budget deal talks reach conclusion

yesterday at 06:26 https://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/031220191

chattels   The deal between the Kurds and Baghdad was accepted by the Council of Ministers, and is expected to reach the parliament floor on Sunday for final approval.

chattels   Despite the near-two month delay on the bill’s introduction to parliament, Haji Rashid is optimistic the bill will pass next week without any serious challenges.

chattels   The deal’s finer details at provincial level have yet to be hammered out. Among those details is the percentage of revenue that border provinces would receive from customs duties, and how much petrodollar would be allocated to provinces where oilfields are located. According to Mirza, the Kurdistan Region provinces are to receive a “good share” from the budget.

chattels   Tueller, Talabani acknowledge obstacles to economic reconstruction at Ninewa Investment Forum

 Zane Wolfang  https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/05122019

chattels   Wednesday, December 4, 2019   Number Of Displaced Returning In Iraq Takes Another Large Drop  

http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/12/number-of-displaced-returning-in-iraq.html

chattels   This is the second time since 2003 that Iraq is facing a displacement crisis, and both look to be ending on the same note. After the civil war over one million people remained permanently displaced, and the same thing looks to be happening today. Both times, the government’s lack of will meant this problem was never resolved.

chattels   The number of displaced (IDPs) continued to decline, but at an ever decreasing pace. By September there were 1,552,914 displaced versus 1,607,148 in June

chattels   Today's agenda includes voting on the Electoral Commission Act

Thursday 05 December 15:32 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=800833

chattels   Sharp disputes over the distribution of provincial seats and quota representation in the election law of the House of Representatives prevent its inclusion in today's session

Thursday 05 December 16:43 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=800845

biff   Chattels have there been any guru thats been to Iraq?

biff   or middle east

chattels   biff DavidMWitty is sometimes listed as a guru and he fought in Iraq, but if you are talking about the typical guru(s) i do not think so.

biff   ok

biff   I have been checking where their intel is coming from

chattels   biff " Intel " is an curious word for what gurus have to offer. What they have to say appears to me to be anecdotal hearsay.

chattels   The source is typically anonymous and unaccountable.

chattels   There is no way to confirm or assess the intel other than to observe that the track record is unreliable.

chattels   Deputy: The task of the next government in the event of its formation is limited to early elections

Date: 2019/12/5 16:23 • http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=85111

Chattels   The political forces had earlier adopted the demand to form an interim government to replace the government of Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi, to prepare for early parliamentary elections, while parliament amends the laws and elections, where the leader of the National Wisdom Movement, Ammar al-Hakim, said that "the next government will be a government It is working to prepare for early elections in the light of the fair electoral law that is being legislated in the House of Representatives and the new commission, free of political influence. "

Biff   Im Back. Chattel I read Arab News Kuwaiti Times just to verify

biff   Verifying info from news sources that the gurus tell people about whats going on inIraq

biff   chattels my old site is back up

biff   Nov 3 2019 Based on the CBI’s decision no. (127) for the year 2019 that Al-Warkaa Investment Bank (BWAI) has resumed its activities and provides banking services

Based on the CBI’s decision no. (127) for the year 2019 that Al-Warkaa Investment Bank (BWAI) has resumed its activities and provides banking services such as issuing letters of guarantee and documentary credits for the purpose of working with the Bank through these activities and accepting the letters of guarantee issued by it.  News archive

Clay   biff which site is that

biff   Investors Iraq I joined it 2006

Andrewhatidid   Good morning everybody here I(WE)go......

Baxter   Good Morning Andre

Andrewhatidid   Remember I(WE)told you ThursdayI was coming here to laugh at Future money well I(WE)know we'veBeen right so far on everything I(WE)told youI(WE)could answer all of your doubts confusion and negativity with 5 postBut also ruin the deep state (The dems) with-out my intentions of doing so What you say to that?

Well this will give you an of estimate of what the rate going to be If you know how to do your math and also give you the date and day of the R.V.......Also how the deep state (The dems) lies and stole from you !!!That's why I(WE) kept telling you We give you the pieces of the puzzle and it's up to you to connect the dots.....It's not about just creating future millionaires/billionaires But also The great awakening

BECAUSE KNOWLEDGE IS POWER !!!!    Andrewhatidid   BTI 2018 | Iraq Country Report

https://www.bti-project.org/en/reports/country-reports/detail/itc/IRQ    

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IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Evening 12-4-19

IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Evening 12-4-19

Dave   Expert expects Security Council to refer corruption file to the International Criminal Court......

Dave   however. worried that it would put IRAQ back into CH7 sanctions

Dave   Legal expert Ali al-Tamimi, on Tuesday, expected the Security Council to send the file of corruption to the International Criminal Court, warning of the return of international sanctions on Iraq.

Al-Tamimi said in a statement to Al-Akhbariya that “the beginning of the new sanctions on Iraq after we came out of Chapter VII under resolution 2390 of 2019 and we are now in the sixth chapter for the existence of financial assets with Kuwait worth 4 and a half billion dollars.”

He added that “the killing of demonstrators and the use of internationally prohibited weapons are gross violations of articles 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and 21 of the Charter of the International Covenant and article 14 on the prevention of arrests as well as the Convention on the Prevention of Genocide of 1948. Humanity, therefore. ”

“The fear is that the gradual sanctions will return in accordance with Articles 39 to 51 of the Charter and that the Security Council will refer the corruption file to the International Criminal Court after condemning the US, Britain and France, which is a permanent member of the Security Council, condemning the security situation in Iraq.”   http://www.ikhnews.com/index.php?page=article&id=203818

Dave   "we are now in the sixth chapter for the existence of financial assets with Kuwait worth 4 and a half billion dollars.

Dave   so sounds like we are not quite there.....Kuwait and that 4 billion  RV tomorrow...correct ANDRE?

Young_SC   crazy crypto Saleh has been PM since Saturday

Young_SC   Dave maybe Tariq should mention that to the people who are protesting

crazy crypto   @young sc really?  didnt know that   just saw article today on it

Dave   Young_SC Tomorrow will tell how they feel about the protesters

Young_SC   If they went back to sanctions then the last 3 weeks would be nothing compared to what will happen next

crazy crypto   says saleh cannot remain pm past 15 days

Young_SC   crazy crypto yes its 5 day old news

crazy crypto   we shal see

Dave   Young_SC Not entirely 100% out....4 billion to Kuait still

Baxter   well.. if they go back into sanctions.. we might as well use this for wallpaper

Dave   Kuwait    Baxter just rumbling.....

 crazy crypto   is out next adventure venezuela?

Dave   Pressure is good

crazy crypto   oil rich country

 Young_SC   Dave beyond good  Ask Mahdi   lolol

crazy crypto   maliki wants to be PM again lol

Dave   got to start somewhere finally i hope

Young_SC   crazy crypto That will never happen

crazy crypto   heck no  he stole probably like 300 billion    its a miracle he is stil walking around breathing

Young_SC   crazy crypto i know

crazy crypto   think the U.S is using him

Young_SC   They are all crooks

Dave   crazy crypto 800 billion disappeared

crazy crypto   wow thats so insane  800 billion is a lot  I mean how much money do u really need?

Dave   Maliki worth 64 billion alone

crazy crypto   so disgusting

Young_SC   Very disgusting

Dave   COI has frozen 120=150 billion usd

crazy crypto   good

Young_SC   What is the CBI saying   I think people are focused on the GOI a bit too much

crazy crypto   agree clay

Dave   Young_SC nothing from them lately......?

Young_SC   I want the CBI to speak

Dave   Clay becausse they the GOI has Done SQUAT!

Dave   protect their IMMUNITY that is all.

Dave   Young_SC What has the GOI accomplished other than traffic laws?

Caily   Hey everybody, I'm a newbie w/ understanding how the currencies will pay-out. Any info. that's out there in the mainstream, as far as I know, doesn't tell us, it's kind of behind the curtain! Like the Forex info. doesn't really apply, the mainstream market info.? > yesterday I was told about the CBI website, but that went over my head + I'm talking about the English website! The other thing I found was this website: currency exchange planner.com. Any recommendation?

Dave   Caily Try Dinar perspectives calls....  do a few calls should get you up to speed

Caily   Ok, Dave, thanks... looks like I interrupted a conversation. I'll check it out, + you guys have a great day (no matter what). See you later...

Dave   Caily no interruption

Caily   This is enough to keep my for a few days, I guess. It just seems like this whole thing is going to pop, + knowing what you've got sure helps!. Now I'm exiting this chat. Have a good one...

TWWIII   Hi Clay & many others here. As many know I have been in the currency buy/ell/trade for many decades. I am sending this article link from Iraq abt exchanging methods of their currency. Many here may think this is interesting, then Im going out for a smoke: https://www.theiqdteam.com/blog/the-exchange-rate-of-foreign-currency-in-economic-feasibility-studies

Dave   TWWIII Interesting yes,,,,,,,heard all that all before

biff   Based on the CBI’s decision no. (127) for the year 2019 that Al-Warkaa Investment Bank (BWAI) has resumed its activities and provides banking services

Based on the CBI’s decision no. (127) for the year 2019 that Al-Warkaa Investment Bank (BWAI) has resumed its activities and provides banking services such as issuing letters of guarantee and documentary credits for the purpose of working with the Bank through these activities and accepting the letters of guarantee issued by it.  News archive

Dave• This action shows that the official exchange rate overestimates the value of the dinar, compared to the   http://www.mop-iraq.org/mopdc/index.jsp?sid=1&id=308&pid=295&lng=en

 (2 of 3) [3/31/2010 12:57:23 PM]   Ministry of Planning

Doug_W   http://www.mop-iraq.org/mopdc/index.jsp?sid=1&id=308&pid=295&lng=en

Dave   TWWIII you note the date on that article?

Wilder   I'm biddibg on a job which is for a new nail salon. The owners are Vietnamese. They have been here in the states for 6 years. Very nice people and appear to be wealthy. He told me it will not happen with their currency. If it were so it would have happened a long time ago.

Wilder   I own some but not too much

Doug_W   me too

Wilder   Doug_W i guess time will tell       Gold: $1,477.44 $3.83 Silver: $16.96 $0.32

Doug_W   silve lost over 30 cents today

Baxter   DAVE.. YOU have a good link for the above you brought in.... dougs wont work either

Baxter   im excited... lol

foxmulder   Baxter should we be ? Again lol

Baxter   oh... I dont know about this dinar...I have heard some things.. but no proof    like always

foxmulder   Baxter read the article above ! Need to read it again.

foxmulder  https://www.theiqdteam.com/blog/the-exchange-rate-of-foreign-currency-in-economic-feasibility-studies

Baxter   well.... I read it... but I dont see the original link anywheres... I think you are right.. their opinion

Baxter   it sounds good   Baxter   In small print near the top... it says..... 2008....... so who knows

Baxter   right above.. where it says... below are the central controls very small print... copyright 2008

Andrewhatidid   got a big surprise 4 ur tomorrow....... am I wrong yet future money

LeLe   Andrewhatidid hope you're right.

Baxter   Did you see that article above

Baxter   https://www.theiqdteam.com/blog/the-exchange-rate-of-foreign-currency-in-economic-feasibility-studies

LeLe   Baxter yes I seen that.   Until it happens no one really knows.

Baxter   nope... Iraq is really a mess now.... I cant see anything happening now..

LeLe   Baxter Pence was in Kuwait.

Baxter   was he... didnt know that

LeLe   Baxter Trump signed to cut food benefits.

Baxter   I saw that

LeLe   Baxter last month he got rid of government phones.

Baxter    didnt know that either

LeLe   Baxter he did last month.

Baxter   He is pretty upset right now...and I can see why...

LeLe   Baxter dems have messed up this country and they want to continue to destroy. All they are doing is lining their pockets .

Baxter   yep.. i know..

LeLe   Baxter we don't need a wall. Cut out all the free programs.....no one would want to come here.

Baxter   thats for sure.... minute they arrive.. its free this and that

LeLe   Baxter and they want more even after that.

Baxter   I got a feelin Trump has an ace up his sleeve and its coming soon

LeLe  Baxter clean our house up before we clean anyone else house.

Baxter   yes..and its a mess too

Dave   https://www.theiqdteam.com/

Baxter   thx Dave... did you see the 2008 copyright on it

Dave   article dated 2010,,,,,  This action shows that the official exchange rate overestimates the value of the dinar, compared to the

http://www.mop-iraq.org/mopdc/index.jsp?sid=1&id=308&pid=295&lng=en  (2 of 3) [3/31/2010 12:57:23 PM]   Ministry of Planning     3/31/2010

Baxter   well... things have sure changed since then

Dave   feasibility.....

Dave   Baxter yeah Kap SAM SandyF

Dave   Wow.......very good news feed from DPs site https://www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/2994649027426049/UzpfSTEwMDAzNzEyNjY4OTMxMDoyNjU3MTg3NTI3NjUzNjEx/  

Dave   Warning.......it comes from CNN......     Protesters on a mission.......

Wilder   Dave won't.open on my phone. What is it?

Dave  www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/2994649027426049/UzpfSTEwMDAzNzEyNjY4OTMxMDoyNjU3MTg3NTI3NjUzNjEx/

Dave   works now     interviews with the protesters     they seem to be steadfast in their demands

Dave   and have the worlds attention now also   not often we get views of the common folks

Wilder   Dave and according to that preacher Paul Begley. Iran has theatened us today.

Wilder   Dave protesters are wanting Iran out

Dave   corruption too,,,,,Wilder watch that news feed?     Paul Begley who is that?

Wilder   Dave Sorry, it wasn't that preacher. It was amtv quoting MSM   Iran threatened our troops.

Dave   Wilder Name calling?  Wilder No US troops Iran?

Wilder   Dave i didn't watch video. Might be our troops that are over there. https://youtu.be/Ns_MoE7r0FI

chattels   Baxter i live near the dam and Lake Moultrie in South Carolina.

Dave   Watch my feed PLEASE

Sparky   Dave ...outstanding cnn news feed...thx...

chattels   Iraqi PM: the current government is now in a care taker role. Political blocs need to select a new PM. I did not resign at the beginning of protests because I did not want to send the country into a whirlpool. LINK

chattels   Iraqi Speaker of Parliament empowers Iraqi President Barham Salih as acting PM 15 days.   http://mobp.as/hbabq

Dave   chattels New election law vote tomorrow  no more Quota system?

Young_SC   Saleh as acting pm is 4 day old news

Sparky   Dave ...still May take a minute, but appears young Iraqis are waking up...

Dave   Sparky ABOUT TIME   Check out that news feed Young_SC

Young_SC   Kap should ask the citizens about how they feel about floating their currency to reach a dollar to benefit them

Sparky   Young_SC ...99% would favor, as opposed to status would...

Young_SC   Sparky no sparky

Young_SC   Purchasing power will not be achieved with a float that could take years to reach a dollar

Dave   WHy we discuss Kap......do not get it

Young_SC   Dave im mocking it Because some do not have common sense nor listen to CBI

Dave   Young_SC OKAY then

Young_SC   Some cannot follow with what is happening now and why protesting is happening    Just saying

  Dave   https://www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/2994649027426049/UzpfSTEwMDAzNzEyNjY4OTMxMDoyNjU3MTg3NTI3NjUzNjEx/

Young_SC   Yup   Reforms indeed  Citizens want the corrupt gone

chattels   Young_SC If i could buy you for what you know and sell you for what you think that you know I would not need any return on my investment with the IQD.

chattels   Young_SC Everything that I post has a link with a date.

Dave   chattels https://www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/2994649027426049/UzpfSTEwMDAzNzEyNjY4OTMxMDoyNjU3MTg3NTI3NjUzNjEx/

chattels   Parliament: The President will ask the political blocs to nominate independents to head the new government

Wednesday 04 December 17:46 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=800707

chattels   Dave I read that article / news feed, thanks.

chattels   Parliament will hold a new session tomorrow afternoon Wednesday 04 December 21:56 2019

Baghdad / Nina / The Presidency of the Council of Representatives attributed the holding of a meeting tomorrow, Thursday 5/12 at 4 pm. https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=800734

chattels   Central Bank sells more than / 212 / million dollars in auction currency today

Wednesday 04 December 11:54 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=800642

Young_SC   https://search4dinar.wordpress.com/2019/11/29/hashemi-saleh-as-prime-minister-in-accordance-with-the-constitution/

Young_SC    Nov 29 Chattels     Just saying    No disrespect

Dave   welcome to IRAQ

Young_SC   Sparky Nov 29

chattels   Young_SC With all due respect there is different and additional information in the articles posted by me. If that is not apparent to you then I cannot help you.

chattels   Abdul Mahdi reveals the reasons for the delay in resigning at the beginning of the demonstrations

Date: 2019/12/04 21:33 • http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=85102

chattels   Hakim: The next government will be temporary prepare for early elections under a fair law

[Baghdad-Where]   The head of the National Wisdom Movement Ammar al-Hakim, Wednesday, that the next government will be an interim preparation for early elections under a fair law. http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=85105

chattels   Have a good evening all.

Goofus   Iran Is Secretly Moving Missiles Into Iraq, U.S. Officials Say https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-is-secretly-moving-missiles-into-iraq-us-officials-say/ar-BBXM675

Goofus   Wilder Go to Drudge

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IQD CALLS Chat Early Wednesday 12-4-19

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chattels   Iraqi Speaker of Parliament empowers Iraqi President Bahram Salih as acting PM 15 days.   http://mobp.as/hbabq

chattels   In Iraq, Sairoon sends formal document to President Salih saying Sairoon gives up its right to nominate next PM as largest political bloc. Instead, protesters must select next PM & the President must oversee this process.    LINK

chattels   Again, from yesterday if you missed it. Iraqi MP describes selection process for new PM; all blocs agree new PM must not belong to any political party & must have integrity, competence & national acceptable. All blocs except Sairoon will participate in nomination process.

http://iraqnewsapp.com/1/Article/2244/188776288#.XeWjHSVOmEc  …

 chattels   Tuesday, December 3, 2019  Protests Cause Splits Within Iraq’s Security Forces

http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/12/protests-cause-splits-within-iraqs.html

chattels   As Iraq’s protests head into their third month there are scattered reports that they are causing splits within the security forces (ISF). Some elements are refusing orders to crackdown upon the demonstrations.

larrykn   seems we are going to wait for awhile now.

Chattels   Sairoon writes to President @BarhamSalih to declare that it is the largest bloc in Parliament and this will choose the next PM. The letter says they will nominate the people’s choice. Don’t expect Fatah to go along with this https://twitter.com/SajadJiyad/status/1201838696695246849

chattels   The problem, of course, is that objectively the Bina Bloc - combining Fatah & SLC + whatever Sunnis haven't left it - is the largest bloc. This is clearly part of their new effort to co-opt the protests. https://twitter.com/UticaRisk

chattels   Blaskart: Iraq has great potential and not a lost cause Release date:: 2019/12/18 18:33 • http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=85076

chattels   I commented on the ever present potential of Iraq yesterday. Lost cause ? Could be.

chattels   MP: The current caretaker government will not allow it to sign any agreement with the Kurdistan government

Date: 2019/12/04 11:47 • http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=85096

chattels   "the survival of the current government is for the conduct of the affairs of the country until a new prime minister is authorized to conclude agreements, whether with the government of the region or other, but at the moment any agreement will not allow By the House of Representatives. "

chattels   Allawi: The political process in its current form will go to Iraq to the unknown

Date: 2019/12/04 11:58 • [Baghdad-Where]

The leader of the National Coalition Iyad Allawi, said Wednesday, "the political process in its current form will further aggravate the situation and go to Iraq to the unknown." http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=85100

chattels   Too little security, too much red tape preventing Nineveh's prosperity: US Ambassador to Iraq

54 minutes ago https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/041220192

chattels   I opined about security or the lack thereof affecting investment yesterday.

chattels   Time for golf. Have a fine day all.

Matt   Dow Jones Industrial Average    INDEXDJX: .DJI   27,687.21 +184.40 (0.67%)

Doug_W   and silver is down 35 cents

futuremoney   who cares

Baxter   Down to 15 next Tues night... come one.. come all

Baxter   sure is something to look forward to

Matt   maybe it's a good time to buy more silver?

Baxter   I think it needs to get down to about 13 dollars to buy it

Baxter   If you could buy it at 13.... say 10 thousand dollars worth would be about 550 ounces... and if it went to 17.. you would make a couple grand.... that would be worth it...

Doug_W   IF

Baxter   BIG IF... I know

Doug_W   yes sir

Doug_W   12 days

Baxter   but you arent going to make anything on 35 cents fluctuation

Baxter   yep 12 more

Doug_W   but WHO is counting

Baxter   I AM

Doug_W   Security Council: Iraq called to end violence against protesters and to embark on reforms

crazy crypto   seems Barham Saleh president of the republic is the new prime minister for now

crazy crypto   The President of the Republic Barham Saleh is the functions of the resigned prime minister until the assignment of another person within a period not exceeding 15 days to this position in accordance with Article 81 of the Constitution.

Doug_W   what a Charlie Foxtrot Iraq is at the moment

Dave   Election Law vote tomorrow,,,,,we shall see how comitted these guys are

Baxter   I will hold my breath...

Baxter   as I always do

Dave   SADLY me too

Dave   wont hold my breath

Dave   Expert expects Security Council to refer corruption file to the International Criminal Court......

Dave   however. worried that it would put IRAQ back into CH7 sanctions

Dave   Legal expert Ali al-Tamimi, on Tuesday, expected the Security Council to send the file of corruption to the International Criminal Court, warning of the return of international sanctions on Iraq.

Al-Tamimi said in a statement to Al-Akhbariya that “the beginning of the new sanctions on Iraq after we came out of Chapter VII under resolution 2390 of 2019 and we are now in the sixth chapter for the existence of financial assets with Kuwait worth 4 and a half billion dollars.”

He added that “the killing of demonstrators and the use of internationally prohibited weapons are gross violations of articles 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and 21 of the Charter of the International Covenant and article 14 on the prevention of arrests as well as the Convention on the Prevention of Genocide of 1948. Humanity, therefore. ”

“The fear is that the gradual sanctions will return in accordance with Articles 39 to 51 of the Charter and that the Security Council will refer the corruption file to the International Criminal Court after condemning the US, Britain and France, which is a permanent member of the Security Council, condemning the security situation in Iraq.”

http://www.ikhnews.com/index.php?page=article&id=203818

Dave   "we are now in the sixth chapter for the existence of financial assets with Kuwait worth 4 and a half billion dollars.

Dave   so sounds like we are not quite there.....Kuwait and that 4 billion

Dave   RV tomorrow...correct ANDRE?

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IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Night 12-3-19

IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Night 12-3-19

 Caily   1st time on this Chat + would like to know: where's the best website to get latest news on the currency / bond RATES?

Baxter   Caily.... you might try Forex.... or the CBI.... www.cbi.iq .... there are members here that would know for sure but I dont think they are here right now...

Caily   Hey, thanks for the WELCOME ;eye roll; of course the info. I seek is related to the RV, that I think we're all waiting for...!  Thanks, Baxter!

Baxter   well the cbi site will have the latest rates on dollars.. but I dont think it does bonds

Baxter   Not many in here have any bonds..

Baxter   at least I dont think they do     just dinar   Iraq dinar that is

Caily    I have Iraqi Dinar, Vietnamese Dong, and Indonesian Rupiah. Also, the person who brought me in got me a ZIM bond note (for which I paid him back). But this person also doesn't want to be the only info. source for all my ?'s (rightfully so), so he messaged me to get on this website.

Caily   So obviously, I got a lot more to check out... OTHER sources of info.

Clay   Zim is a waste I have some too will never increase but I have and believe in both the dinar and dong

Caily   OK, I'll check that out. Thx. --- I started earnestly this past Feb. When this guy gave me the heads up -initially- I think it was about a year + 1/2 before this. SO, I've known about it for about 2 years or so, but like I said, this past February I started to get more info. + buy notes.

Matt   Dow Jones Industrial Average INDEX DJX: .DJI   27,502.81 −280.23 (1.01%) OUCH!

Baxter   The only zim bonds... I believe that are worth something... have only been out for about six months or so...and you probably dont have those.. because they were mostly sold to banks.. in the hundreds of thousands of dollars worth... the Old Zim bonds and notes..were demonitized over ten years ago... they are worthless..

Caily   ? - I've heard that too much Dinar has been bought up. Can that be? This guy also stressed Vietnamese Dong as the currency to concentrate on.

Clay   I agree on the dong

Baxter   yes.. I do too

Clay   too much dinar wont make any difference IMO

Caily   I'm in New York City. I heard that Texas, Georgia, + Florida are where most of the 'buyers' are as far as this RV.

Baxter   thats very hard to say.....

Baxter   most of this dinar was sold by dealers all over the country

Baxter   I bought my first dinar from fifth third bank... 14 years ago

Caily   Yeah, I guess I could check out more info. about the VALUE of old ZIM, but again, I got it from 'this guy'. He also has been in this a LONG time, he knows a GREAT deal; I trust his info. But bottom line, I have to educate myself about this...

Caily   WOW, Baxter 14 years ago! Woo-hoo!

Baxter   The Zimbabwean dollar was introduced in 1980 to directly replace the Rhodesian dollar (which had been introduced in 1970) at par (1:1), at a similar value to the US dollar.

Over time, hyperinflation in Zimbabwe reduced the Zimbabwe dollar to one of the lowest valued currency units in the world. It was redenominated three times (in 2006, 2008 and 2009), with denominations up to a $100 trillion banknote issued.[4]

 The final redenomination produced the "fourth dollar" (ZWL), which was worth 1025 ZWD (first dollars).

Use of the Zimbabwean dollar as an official currency was effectively abandoned on 12 April 2009.

It was demonetised in 2015, with outstanding accounts able to be reimbursed until 30 April 2016.[5][6] In place of the Zimbabwean dollar, currencies including the South African rand, Botswana pula, pound sterling, Indian rupee, euro, Japanese yen, Australian dollar, Chinese yuan, and the United States dollar were used.[7][8]

Caily   Ok, I'll check out more about the ZIM; I've heard that too - that the ZIM's are worthless. Live & learn, ya know?

Baxter   there it is

Caily    gee thanks, I'm copying it right now... that info.

crazy crypto   was informd the next currency to watch for is the venezuela currency and the egyptian pound

crazy crypto   might wanna consider these after this thing happens

Sparky   ...so...Sairoon party...ie Sadr...can can't nominate next pm w o demonstrators approval...my bet it's Abadi...

Sparky   ...my best guess is this time next year for any movement...

Sparky   ...but, as always, I could be wrong...

Baxter   I sure hope so.... LOL

Sparky    Baxter ...love the young protestors...not stopping...they know what is up...must clean house...and begin again...

Baxter   im afraid so

Sparky   Baxter ... potential huge upside... I'm down...

Sparky   Baxter ...3 year look ahead is very exciting...

Sparky   ...USA squeezing Iran...Sistani pissed off...good stuff...Imo...

Baxter   just saw it on the news

 Sparky   ...maybe a new Dawn in our investment...if the younger kids want it bad enough...

LeLe   Sparky I totally agree. This may be the push that is needed.

Sparky   ...guess Barham Saleh got his marching orders Sunday...let's see how it plays out...

Sparky   ...I'm thinking Mahdi was an Iranian puppy...

Sparky   ... I think we're good, gotta be patient...lol...

crazy crypto   think of it this way their were many things that ere being done in secret ffor years thats us dinar holders knew noting about

crazy crypto   Iran has always been a huge problem for iraq movin forward thank the good lord we got a pres. that is Anti Iran or im afraid we would have never seen the dinar appreciate in value

crazy crypto   iran wanted to keep the currency low and continue to steal from the auctions

crazy crypto   its now quite obvious this was their plan

crazy crypto   donald trump just came out and condemned another country for artiffically keeping their currency low

crazy crypto   so now you know who is pro currency reform and true value

Dave   crazy crypto Who?

crazy crypto   trump

Dave   Did not know that....

crazy crypto   i think it was Brazil

crazy crypto   who he came out and said

Dave   BRICS?

crazy crypto   also he has been very vocal about europe as well

crazy crypto   not sure

Dave   Trump vocal..........LOL

crazy crypto   always lol

Young_SC   Dave Sandy F and Kap following today's news or no

Young_SC   Or are they still going by their own narrative

Young_SC   Any amount of dinar in circulation makes it impossible to increase the currency in value slogans today? Dave

Young_SC   Any news from the CBI you guys?? Or only focused on the government?

JoeSchmoe   Young_SC what is today's news that would intrigue those two?

sandyf   @chattels sandyf Thanks. My wife is a member of several groups and much has been done to comply with the groups' conditions precedent, but i question the legitimacy of these groups/people.

If she was a member of this entity then she would have been contacted some time ago. Having been closed down for over 8 years they went through a protracted period trying to rebuild the membership and that has now been closed.

You are quite right to question legitimacy, history has proven they are invariably run by crooks. TNT Tony is a classic example and the penalty he received was a travesty of justice. I often wonder if he has been used over the years to manipulate the rhetoric in a certain direction.

Gurus in general have never been taken to task over the dinar and it may be because somewhere in the background there was a certain percentage of validity that was best left where it was.

I have been in this since 2004 and it cannot be disputed that the whole thing went off in a different direction following the financial crisis. At that point in time anyone who suggested 2019, and there were a few with it being the Base III implementation, were considered to be mentally retarded. Here we are now, heading into 2020 still on an any day now basis.

Young_SC   JoeSchmoe lol

JoeSchmoe   Young_SC I thought you were serious, that there was some news today that would .....retaliate to what they have been saying

Young_SC   JoeSchmoe actually i was teasing

JoeSchmoe   ah

JoeSchmoe   lol

JoeSchmoe   same simple narrative i would think]

JoeSchmoe   Young_SC and if you're waiting for a reply from him, he only does it when you are not around

JoeSchmoe   usually in the middle of the wee morning hours

JoeSchmoe   he has to go think of what to say, take his time to type it all out, and then copy/paste it. Do you ever see him typing on the bottom right of the screen?? NO! And that is because he does it all before he comes in so that he can just leave

Young_SC   JoeSchmoe LOLOL

Young_SC   LOL

Young_SC   That is true

sandyf   Trump's expertise in manipulating the truth on display again. Claimed he would stay out of the UK election and then proceeded to give his opinion. Also stated he had no interest in the NHS, can only assume no one told him about the meetings between US and UK negotiators.

Not sure about this - Stated on UK TV that over 180 Million Americans were more than happy with their health care plans - any comment.

sandyf   JoeSchmoe You are quite right make too many mistakes typing.

sandyf   Got other things to do at this time of the morning.   Bye

TWWIII   Young_SC Did u get ur desert from Weds night with Will

Young_SC   TWWIII im not sure i havent checked lol

Young_SC   I think so

TWWIII   sandyf are u having a problem with our President of the United States of America???? He has the right to change his mind whenever. Who'd believe the UK press as well as our fake press.

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IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 12-3-19

IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 12-3-19

Dinard   howdy fellow dinarians. hows all you anonymous folk doing out there?

dinard   anyone know if pm habibi shabibibi al goat convinced trump to push that RV button? i heard he was using the RV as a bargaining chip to make al queda peace talks resume. hence giving al queda true power over our RV

larrykn   Iraq sees renewed clashes between security forces, demonstrators https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44910/Iraq-sees-renewed-clashes-between-security-forces-demonstrators

larrykn   Seven Killed; ISIS Attack on Oil Fields https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44912/Seven-Killed-ISIS-Attack-on-Oil-Fields

larrykn   Iraqi families demand accountability after protest deaths https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44913/Iraqi-families-demand-accountability-after-protest-deaths

larrykn   Intensive security deployment in southern Iraq https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44914/Intensive-security-deployment-in-southern-Iraq

larrykn   Iraq parties in talks over new PM amid unrelenting protests https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/021220191

sandyf@Chattels sandyf I am involved in a number of groups. Does the viable entity referenced by you have a name ?

I am not going to be any more specific on that,sorry. If you haven't already done what was required then I am afraid it is too late. It does not pay to get too optimistic, things have failed at the last minute in the past.

If there is to be a global change then from an accounting point of view, Jan 1st is the most appropriate point in time.

chattels   sandyf Thanks. My wife is a member of several groups and much has been done to comply with the groups' conditions precedent, but i question the legitimacy of these groups/people.

chattels   But, if you knew one to be more viable than another I wanted to know if she is a member of that group.

chattels   Parliament on Sunday formally tasked President Barham Salih with naming a new candidate, as prescribed by the constitution.

https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/021220191

chattels   Demonstrators say the problem is systemic, so instead of packing up their protest camps after Abdul-Mahdi's resignation, they doubled down.

They insist they want "none of the same faces" that have dominated Iraq's political scene for years, a demand that has complicated the search for a new premier.

chattels   Two years since ISIS defeat, foreign investors look to Nineveh https://www.rudaw.net/english/business/021220191

chattels   Committees, meetings and conferences. Always " fixin' to do something " and lauding the potential of Iraq. A day comes for us all, individually and collectively, that potential is obscured and lost to reality. That reality is that Iraq may never be able to realize its potential, no matter how great.

chattels   " Nothing in the World can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination are omnipotent. The slogan "press on" has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race." - Calvin Coolidge

chattels   I am in agreement with Kaperoni about the timing of any increase in the value of the IQD. " 12-3-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni So the protestors wanted PM Mahdi to resign...which he did, but the result will cause delays in reforms.

New formation of GOI will take at least a few months, delays in passing laws also. The end result is a 6 month to 1 year delay in my opinion of implimenting economic reforms and creating a private sector.

And as usual, parliament loves to have a distraction rather than focus on what they should be doing...which is passing laws...the facts don't lie. Until the laws are passed and stability exists nobody is coming to invest. And until they have significant investment, the CBI will not begin currency reform."

chattels   Completion of he banking reform project in Iraq is highly unlikely given the lack of security and instability of Iraq.

chattels   I am always most hopeful in the first quarter of the year, but .............

chattels   the*

chattels   The Iraqi political regime is " on life support ", IMO.

chattels   Assaults from without and corruption from within.

chattels   Would that our persistence and determination could have any effect upon Iraq, but alas it does and will not. We are spectators and speculators.

chattels   What comes after Iraqi PM's resignation?

Adnan Abu Zeed December 3, 2019

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/12/iraq-protests-abdul-mahdi.html#ixzz673N1ZDSv

chattels   “Far from the desires of political blocs that often bypass the laws, the constitution states that the largest parliamentary bloc, Sairoon, is the one that chose the current PM. Consequently, the new candidate must be chosen by the second-largest parliamentary bloc after Sairoon, which is the Fatah Alliance.”

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/12/iraq-protests-abdul-mahdi.html#ixzz673NQmwSm

chattels   " .............. doubts this step will succeed because protesters “want comprehensive political and constitutional change. The crisis is set to escalate.”

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/12/iraq-protests-abdul-mahdi.html#ixzz673NVaktR

chattels   “The alliance supports early elections after amendment of the electoral law. The prime minister would be chosen based on a live public referendum.”

He added, “That would satisfy the people, and the PM would be able to choose the ministers, far from factional, partisan and sectarian quota.”

However, protesters’ demands go beyond what Suleiti outlined. In a statement, protesters in 10 Iraqi provinces made seven demands following Abdul Mahdi’s resignation announcement, including “ongoing protests until parties disappear and the quota system ends, constitutional amendment, a fair electoral law and a new electoral commission, early elections under UN supervision and accountability for all those implicated in killing protesters, including Abdul Mahdi.”

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/12/iraq-protests-abdul-mahdi.html#ixzz673Nmy9Q7

chattels   “The current government will be a caretaker one, after parliament withdraws confidence. The premiership won’t be vacant but expired. However, the premier will continue work until parliament votes for a new premier to replace him.

The president will have 30 days to commission a new premier, but first, the largest [qualified] bloc legally must be determined. The bloc then presents its candidate for the president to commission him. The candidate then nominates the new ministers and will have 30 days to receive parliament’s confidence. The current government can remain in its caretaker capacity for 60 days.”

 Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/12/iraq-protests-abdul-mahdi.html#ixzz673O8IqG1

chattels   “The influential political parties and their parliamentary blocs are seeking to pacify the situation by agreeing on a transitional government for six months as an early step. This is the most likely option.”

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/12/iraq-protests-abdul-mahdi.html#ixzz673OJtQE0

chattels   I do not know that the Iraqi protestors will accept the road map of any political party.

chattels   Pacification is anathema to revolution.

chattels   Iraqi MP describes selection process for new PM; all blocs agree new PM must not belong to any political party & must have integrity, competence & national acceptable. All blocs except Sairoon will participate in nomination process. http://iraqnewsapp.com/1/Article/2244/188776288#.XeWjHSVOmEc  

chattels   Is there an Iraqi without prior political affiliation or service that is honest, competent and acceptable to the people of Iraq ?

futuremoney   no

chattels   Reidar Visser @reidarvisser  It has emerged #Iraq parliament used an ad hoc reference to art 75 of the constitution to justify circumvention of art 81. This is particularly far fetched. 1. Art 75 deals with presidency not premiership. 2. There's no mention of a caretaker govt. 3. Deputy takes over if applied https://twitter.com/reidarvisser

chattels   Visser is saying that the actions of Parliament are inconsistent with the constitution, IMO.

chattels   What an absolute mess.

futuremoney    a black hole country

Clay   thats an understatement

Doug_W   Silver:$17.25

Chattels   Salam al-Shammari: Alliance / Siron / will not vote on the next prime minister without the consent of peaceful demonstrators

Tuesday 03 December 17:26 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=800517

chattels   Al-Maliki: We are with any candidate in which the specifications set by the highest religious authority and political and social forces / expanded

Tuesday 03 December 15:25 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=800501

chattels   Government of Kurdistan: We hope to implement what has been agreed with the Federal Ministry of Finance in Baghdad

Tuesday 03 December 15:58 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=800507

chattels   Wonder what happens if the KRG again becomes aggressive about independence from the arguably failed state that is Iraq ?

chattels   Fasten your seat belts. This ride may get bumpier.

chattels   Add to all of this the need for amendment of the electoral law(s) and the constitution.!

chattels   And the budget law !

biff   chattels Warka bank server was shut on friday. No one access their accounts now

chattels   biff Lovely, eh ?

biff   lol

biff   I was able to access Credit Bank of Iraq

chattels   And that's the way that it is from the news that I read out of Iraq on this Tuesday, December 3, 2019. God help us.

biff   Civil War maybe

chattels   Duty and the privilege of service to my fellow man are calling. Have a fine day all.

chattels   biff The madness of men.

biff   Iraq is holding contracts from other countries. They have x amount time to fullfill the contracts by 15 Dec 2019

chattels    biff You seem knowledgeable about certain business realities in Iraq.

biff   Good Morning Clay you ol war horse you

biff   Chattels been in this since 2005 bought and got my currency in Kuwait. Also a few bank and stock accounts in iraq.

biff   I have not bought any new dinar since

biff   If I lose out i'm not worried

biff   money already spend

chattels   biff I remember a time when the Warka accounts were much discussed and there was also talk about dates on contracts in the days of OkieOilMan.

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chattels   biff You and I are similarly situated. I have done what I am going to do and intent upon riding it out. As you say the money is spent.

biff   I was on the Invester Iraq forum for 12 years. A lot of people were on the site. I remember okie and few others

chattels   biff You are a long timer. I got in in 2011.

biff   That site is gone too

chattels   biff I have been on several sites that have come and gone. Some of the peeps have passed on as well.

biff   Lots of info on the site. Believe it or not all the gurus started for there

biff   Yes its sad

chattels   biff Yes, we may be trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, but.............. .

biff   I'm like this. If happends it happends.

biff   I have a plan in place

chattels   biff I have often opined that this speculation may be a multi-generational event and I may not live to see any value.

chattels   Maybe my children will profit from my dreaming.

biff   I studied how the banks are going to charge fee and taxes for this

Clay   THINKIN SO

Clay   mine too

chattels   biff I spoke with a banker about the fees attendant to exchanging exotic currencies. Not pretty if the same percentages apply.

biff   True

biff   Gotta go chat later

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Wilder   Many of these cantracts for this month and going in to 2020. Who knows with how things are now

Wilder   Clay Lets go to Iraq and be plumbers. Paid with dinar. https://www.salaryexpert.com/salary/job/plumber-pipe-fitter-and-steam-fitter/iraq

Clay   never     they will kill each other for another 1000 years

Doug_W   Clay my goodness you Mr NICE today Eh?

Wilder   Unitet Naitions current meetings. http://www.uniraq.com/index.php?lang=en

Wilder   Clay they need plbg for morgues. Job security.

Wilder   TECHNOLOGY

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IQD CALLS Chat Early Monday 12-2-19

 IQD CALLS Chat Early Monday 12-2-19

Sandyf   @Francis Albert CBI and so many others have all but said the Dinar is going up in value,

The "Dinar" is the monetary unit of Iraq, as opposed to the currency. A redenomination would increase the value of the "Dinar" and reduce the amount in circulation.

sandyf   I have referred in the past to 2 entities that I had dealings with that were outside the realm of dinarland. In the middle of last year both were shut down by the authorities.

One was revealed to be a scam and legal proceedings were initiated. The other however was given a clean bill of health and came back to life.

They are now making encouraging noises about something happening later in the month with the outcome being visible in the new year.

People really should consider the possibility of 2 separate events rather than getting hung up on Iraq. The deletion of zeros is purely an Iraqi issue and could be a long time away.

Chattels   sandyf I am involved in a number of groups. Does the viable entity referenced by you have a name ?

chattels   Abadi: I will not be a party by choosing a candidate for prime minister https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/middleeast/iraq/0112201914

chattels   Others: We will not attend the meetings to choose Abdel Mahdi's replacement    LINK

chattels   The bloc of the alliance of Sairon, on Sunday, did not intend to attend meetings to choose the replacement of resigned Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi, noting that it is "the competence of the people."

chattels   A deputy in the parliament, said the process of choosing a new prime minister will be very difficult    LINK

chattels   Iraqi Sairoon Coalition led by Muqtada Sadr: we are the largest Coalition in Parliament & have the right to nominate the next PM. We concede this right to the people. The people must nominate the next PM & President Salih must accept their nomination. http://mobp.as/7Cpaq

chattels   Iraqi Parliament approves the resignation of PM Abdel-Mahdi. Now President Bahram Salih must select a new PM. http://mobp.as/htnaq

chattels   This has the promise of chaos and disaster.

chattels   There was no vote in #Iraq parliament when letter of resignation from Abd al-Mahdi arrived, just an absence of objection that was read as approval of the resignation. Unclear why art 61 (caretaker govt) is applied instead of art 81 (president takes over)   LINK

chattels   Shabandar: It was unthinkable that Abdul Mahdi's resignation would end the crisis and stop the flames

Date: 2019/12/2 http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=85029

chattels   " Parliament had accepted in its meeting yesterday evening, the resignation of the government of Adel Abdul-Mahdi, while the speaker of parliament, Mohamed Halbousi, he will address the President of the Republic in order to assign a new prime minister."

chattels   Adviser to the President: Saleh can assign any figure to form a government

Date: 2019/12/2 12:46 • http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=85025

chattels   An adviser to the President of the Republic, said that President Barham Saleh can assign any person to form a government after the resignation of Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi.

The House of Representatives has accepted the resignation of Abdul Mahdi in its session on Sunday.

It is noteworthy that Article [76] of the Iraqi Constitution provides:

First:  The President of the Republic, the candidate of the most parliamentary bloc, to form a Council of Ministers, within fifteen days from the date of the election of the President of the Republic.

Second:  The Prime Minister-designate shall nominate the members of his ministry within a maximum period of thirty days from the date of assignment.

Third:  The President of the Republic shall appoint a new candidate for the Presidency of the Council of Ministers within fifteen days upon the failure of the Prime Minister-designate to form the Ministry within the period stipulated in clause “II” of this Article.

Fourth:  The Prime Minister-designate shall present the names of the members of his Cabinet and the Ministerial Curriculum to the House of Representatives.

Fifth:  The President of the Republic shall appoint another candidate to form the Ministry within fifteen days in case the Ministry does not gain confidence.

chattels   It is not at all clear to me how Iraq is proceeding constitutionally with the resignation of Mahdi. Visser posts that we have a caretaker government which as I understand it would continue under Mahdi until a replacement is selected by Parliamentary process.

chattels   Another opines that President Salih can select anyone.

chattels   Instability and uncertainty in the government of Iraq is an understatement.

chattels   Who wants the job and will selection by anyone other than the protestors make a difference ?

chattels   Even if Iraq gov’t falls, oil-for-budget deal can’t be scrapped: KRG official https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/01122019

chattels   The foregoing is an interesting read.

chattels   Early elections may be the only way out in the near term. IN the longer term I wonder if real reform / change can be effected in Iraq.

chattels   The Central Bank sells more than / 227 / million dollars in the currency auction

Monday 02 December 12:17 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=800307

chattels   And that's the way that it is from the news that I read out of Iraq on this Monday, December 2, 2019. It will soon be 2020. Hard to believe, eh ?

Baxter12-1-2019 Intel Guru Frank26 (firefly report) THERE IS A MASSIVE EXODUS OCCURRING AT THESE VERY SECONDS IN IRAQ !!!...Iran agents are fleeing...Thousands of citizens are in the streets celebrating...

Wilder   Andrewhatidid where should we go to exchange your dinar?

Andrewhatidid   Wilder when it does happen everybody in the dinar community will scream it and the news also will have to report it fake news or not they wont have no choice to report it no matter how much they hate trump but when the R.V. happen they not going to say oh the r.v. happen

they going to say something like after 16 years of war and claim of mass destruction for iraq 30 to 16 years later they back to a normal living the unrest for protest and demonstrations finally able to rest iraq finally reinstated and got its value and repurchasing power back..... and thats when any dinar holder will able to make their foreign exchange in all top level bank..... when you hear the news say things like this R.V. IT IS.........

Andrewhatidid   Wilder but im gone i dont argue in spend time on people like future money i never say 1 time in my post friday the r.v. will happen he she its so mad in their corner at home all they could do its put word in my mouth

Andrewhatidid   i just say on all the things thats going to happen in dec and i remember last week i say well now we give you the pieces of the puzzle its up to you to guess when will the R.V. HAPPEN i never say friday so i dont know what that crazyyyy talking about

Wilder   Andrewhatidid when in your opinion?

Andrewhatidid   Wilder i just say on all the things thats going to happen in dec and i remember last week i say well now we give you the pieces of the puzzle its up to you to guess when will the R.V. HAPPEN i never say friday and yes i hold dinar but all the foreign investments with it

Doug_W   42" of snow in Watertown   45 MPH winds now that is a blizzard   Albany got 18"

Dave   Howdy folks.....Thursday is the DAY from what I think i have read.........

Doug_W   DO not hold ur breath Dave

Dave   but but Andre says so......or think that is what he has said?????

Dave   Not sure.......

Doug_W   Ditto LOL

Dave   wish i had that enthusiasm

Dave   Clay need more innate intel?

Dave   wish those Deep State folks hurry up........

Dave   FTB... .Cabal or non.......all i want for Xmas is my 2 front teeth

Dave   bad news my crystal ball is not that.......should of figured out that the 3 holes in it meant it was actually a bowling ball

Dave   no fun here today?

Biff   2025 Dave   Thursday is the DAY from what I think i have read.....

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Loren   Being a optimist instead of a cynic, and also have spending ten years in Iraq. I am very optimistic about the possibility of Iraq Revaluing its currency. Here are the reasons why:

I spent 2years in Kuwait City meeting Kuwaiti's and discussing regional business at every opportunity. Quite often it would be with farmers in the area, they told me that if Iraq ever retook their position in agriculture, that they would not be able to compete with them, that they might as well push their corps into the ditch.

I use to fly between Kuwait City and Baghdad, over the irrigation network that now has dust in it. I believe that they became dry because the monster named Sadamn rerouted the river and made Southern Iraq dry so that the river would go around his palace.

 I believe that the river could be rerouted again returning water to the irrigation network. Returning Iraq to it's position of being the Middle East's bread basket.

Two oil: Oil is so abundant that you can see it oozing up threw ground in places. I am not a petro engineer, but I have also heard that the oil that pumped out of the ground requires less refining in order to make it into fuel. Making it less expensive to refine, thus making it more valuable.

Three tourism: Iraq has a biblical history that agroecologist's (sp?) and tourist's have been wanting to explore for years. Do I need to point out that Egypt's government depends on tourism?

Here is a question, if Iraq's Dinar can be devalued, why can't it be revalued. Especially when I have heard it stated that Iraq maybe one of the richest counties on earth in natural recourses .

I have always heard that it is assets that determine the value of currency? From what I have seen, Iraq is a gold mine waiting to be tapped and in order to return to the world community that their currency has to be revalued? And that the rest of the world will benefit from this event.

Loren   This is not the 1st time posting, however I respect your right not to not to post opposing opinions. I am just a visitor. I will not post again! Please excuse the ring.

Sparky   Dave ...did you happen to read Loren's post from this morning ?

Dave   With all the manufacturing of solar panels one would think silver should be worth much more

Doug_W   Silver:$17.11

Baxter   it needs to go down to 13... so I can buy some

Sparky   Dave ...TrinaSolar, 345 watts a piece...

Dave   Sparky silver has not kept pace with gold

Dave   yet silver is much more utilized

Dave   Baxter hope you missed that boat.....

Baxter   nah... lets have it come down some more

Sparky   Dave ... I m thinking silver is artificially held down...

Dave   Sparky yep..... big demand .....keep it affordable

Dave   strange as it sounds

Sparky   Dave ...I'm sure that there is a strategy, to which I am unaware...

Dave   in this day and age silver is as important as Air

Dave   how many ounces of silver in a solar panel?

Sparky   Dave ... silver is very important, for sure...

Dave   old solar panel reclaimation/recycling good idea....lol

Baxter   Dave... if you have 10 ounces of silver and you want to sell it...what percent does it cost you to sell it back to a dealer..

Sparky   Dave ...not sure...but I will check it out...miniscule circuitry...but each panel weighs about 40 pounds...

Dave Baxter need to see 20.00 spot before i call

 Baxter   I know.. but what does it cost you to sell it

Doug_W   sell it on ebay which is FAR less than a dealers 20%

Dave   Baxter 10-15 % my guess off melt value

Baxter   ok..

Doug_W   set a min price and acution it off

Baxter   thats quite a bit

 Dave   Doug_W Not selling my MS 65s

 kevin311312   ANews@anewscomtr

The Iraqi parliament approved the resignation of Iraq's Prime Minister on Sunday following protester's pressure in demonstrations around the country.

Baxter   Kevin...you have a link for that article

Sparky   ..I think Abadi / Sadr / Sistani are on the same page...and will act quickly this time...imo...

Sparky   ... still talking mid 2020...if we're lucky...

kevin311312   http://www.anews.com.tr/world/2019/12/01/iraqi-mps-accept-premiers-resignation-amid-ongoing-violence

  Sparky   Dave ... I predict solar panel theft to be rising crime, if silver pops...lol...

 Sandyf   @Francis Albert CBI and so many others have all but said the Dinar is going up in value,

The "Dinar" is the monetary unit of Iraq, as opposed to the currency. A redenomination would increase the value of the "Dinar" and reduce the amount in circulation.

sandyf   I have referred in the past to 2 entities that I had dealings with that were outside the realm of dinarland. In the middle of last year both were shut down by the authorities.

One was revealed to be a scam and legal proceedings were initiated. The other however was given a clean bill of health and came back to life. They are now making encouraging noises about something happening later in the month with the outcome being visible in the new year.

People really should consider the possibility of 2 separate events rather than getting hung up on Iraq. The deletion of zeros is purely an Iraqi issue and could be a long time away.

Doug_W   Silver:  $16.97 down -0.14

chattels   sandyf I am involved in a number of groups. Does the viable entity referenced by you have a name ?

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IQD CALLS Chat Early Sunday 12-1-19

Chattels   Dave Do you have a link for your news article / post, please?

chattels   Abadi launches initiative to solve the crisis .. The most important items to form a new government within two weeks / expanded

Saturday 30 November 20:54 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=800016

chattels   Maliki does not seek to return to the post of prime minister and has no other candidate

Saturday 30 November 23:40 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=800045

chattels   The delegation negotiating for the Kurdistan region will go to Baghdad tomorrow / expanded

Saturday 30 November 19:52 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=800001

chattels   In Baghdad, clashes between protesters & security forces near barriers blocking the Central Bank. https://twitter.com/DavidMWitty1?lang=en

chattels   Iraqi Parliamentary source: PM Abdel-Mahdi’s resignation letter has arrived at Parliament. http://mobp.as/IO89p

chattels   In Iraq, leader of Nasr Coalition & former PM, Abadi, submits national initiative to remove confidence from current government & create transitional government that includes an assistant for Protesters Affairs. http://mobp.as/cIcaq

Chattels   Dave Do you have a link for your news article / post, please?

Dave   chattels https://search4dinar.wordpress.com/

Dave   about 3rd art down

Francis Albert   Removing corruption, watching rats leaving a sinking ship and loosing Iranian influence was/is the only way economic reforms can happen in Iraq. So, for those whining that these things have slowed down the reforms do not understand the reality of life. An example, few know but true, when the body is in pain it is actually healing and not getting worse.

chattels   Dave thank you

chattels   “The Iraqi government, unless the parliament takes any decision on resignation, it will remain a government with full powers, and when the parliament takes a decision on resignation, it becomes a caretaker government daily, and remain in this characterization until the formation of a new government, be voted on By the House of Representatives. ”

chattels   " ................... there are constitutional provisions in this regard, such as Article 64, 76, 81, these articles are to deal with such a situation,..............”

chattels   https://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/28/international/text-of-the-draft-iraqi-constitution.html 

Loren   Being a optimist instead of a cynic, and also have spending ten years in Iraq. I am very optimistic about the possibility of Iraq Revaluing its currency. Here are the reasons why:

I spent 2years in Kuwait City meeting Kuwaiti's and discussing regional business at every opportunity. Quite often it would be with farmers in the area, they told me that if Iraq ever retook their position in agriculture, that they would not be able to compete with them, that they might as well push their corps into the ditch.

I use to fly between Kuwait City and Baghdad, over the irrigation network that now has dust in it. I believe that they became dry because the monster named Sadamn rerouted the river and made Southern Iraq dry so that the river would go around his palace.

 I believe that the river could be rerouted again returning water to the irrigation network. Returning Iraq to it's position of being the Middle East's bread basket.

Two oil: Oil is so abundant that you can see it oozing up threw ground in places. I am not a petro engineer, but I have also heard that the oil that pumped out of the ground requires less refining in order to make it into fuel. Making it less expensive to refine, thus making it more valuable.

Three tourism: Iraq has a biblical history that agroecologist's (sp?) and tourist's have been wanting to explore for years. Do I need to point out that Egypt's government depends on tourism?

Here is a question, if Iraq's Dinar can be devalued, why can't it be revalued. Especially when I have heard it stated that Iraq maybe one of the richest counties on earth in natural recourses .

I have always heard that it is assets that determine the value of currency? From what I have seen, Iraq is a gold mine waiting to be tapped and in order to return to the world community that their currency has to be revalued? And that the rest of the world will benefit from this event.

Loren   This is not the 1st time posting, however I respect your right not to not to post opposing opinions. I am just a visitor. I will not post again! Please excuse the ring.

spankie   Loren u okay- do not go away mad- is good to state ur opinion

Spankie   Loren very good comment above- thx

JoeSchmoe   Loren views like your above are always welcome...and encouraging! ;clap

JoeSchmoe   especially when it sounds like common sense as yours does

JoeSchmoe   Loren however, I would like to hear your views on the amount of dinar in circulation, and how that would affect Iraq's ability to rv please?

JoeSchmoe   Loren ...because whenever I start feeling more positive about our dinar thing here, someone always brings that up and I don't know how to feel

JoeSchmoethat always seems to be the fly in the ointment though...the amount of dinar in circ. So if we could keep getting more ideas that rebut/refute it, that would be great

Baxter   MONEY supply eh? great question...

Baxter   The Dime Account isnt rising very rapidly...

kevin311312   National Bank of Georgia introduces its 10-lari banknote

The Central Bank of Iraq announces that the National Bank of Georgia issued a banknote (10) Larry updated, knowing that the old banknote of the same category and issuance and old categories remain in circulation and with the power of discharge and legal offer.

kevin311312   https://cbi.iq/news/view/1349 

Baxter   wonder what that means..Baxter   a 10 Larry updated

kevin311312   the guru will have fun with that

Baxter   sure will...   I never heard of a 10 Larry updated

kevin311312   I wish it said dinar

Baxter   so do I

kevin311312   if you go to the English version it doesnt say anything,just a pic of it

Baxter   ok

kevin311312   maybe translation?

Doug_W   are we rich now then?

Baxter   I think so Doug   Baxter   be at the bank tomorrow morning

Doug_W   yayyy

kevin311312   National Bank of Georgia introduces its 10-lari banknote

kevin311312   ?   some one else try to translat it

Baxter   I cant Kevin

kevin311312   its on cbi web site

Doug_W   kevin311312 I got waht you already posted

Baxter   I see it on the cbi website

Baxter   wonder where the National bank of georgia is?

Baxter Here is that Larry note    https://i.ibb.co/CmCPQGf/larry-note.png

kevin311312   LOL

Baxter   looks kind of like Ulysses Grant

kevin311312   #Iraq: Someone put fire on a mausoleum in #Najaf, which is for many Shia a holy-like town.

Francis Albert   JoeSchmoe and others "concerned" about the money supply of the Iraqi Dinar. This may help ease concerns, or not. The whole money supply thing was brought forth by Kap here long ago. I would ask, What does Kap know the CBI et al doesn't know.

Francis Albert   CBI and so many others have all but said the Dinar is going up in value, so obviously the money supply thing is not an issue, or they wouldn't be doing it. So, that alone is the remedy to Kap's argument.

Francis Albert   A few other things about this just for fun. No one knows who, in fact, hold all these trillions of Dinar. No one. So, Central Banks around the World are the most likely candidates for holding around 40 Trillion Dinar. ( I think that is the latest figure being tossed around.)

Francis Albert   The thesis:   All Central Banks are controlled by the same people who Control Dollar Inc. (sans Russia, China, North Korea and Iran) The axis of evil, how convenient. (they are card carrying members in India's but not in control).

So, If we make the argument that the Dollar Inc. crowd promulgates wars, (regime change) the U.S. gets into, then we can argue they have a vested interest in a strong, vibrant, healthy prosperous Iraq with happy citizens to be consumers and not in the streets.

Francis Albert   Which, of course, is the whole reason for the 2003 "Liberation" of Iraq, and why billions upon billions, (more to come), have been spent on "bases", strongholds for the Dollar boys the have the U.S. look after the Middle East. The whole point of the war, because they are Empire Building.

Francis Albert   So, The Dollar Inc. crowd being in control of trillions of Dinar, they have the option to dump them into Iraq and crash the whole RI, RV, whatever...or make it easy on Iraq to fulfill their needs. And, as many conjecture they will be trading in lots of these Dinar until the end of time for oil. In Geo Politics nothing happens by accident.

Francis Albert   And, the fun part. Central Banks create currencies on a computer or have the treasury of the Country print paper currency and by the bill for .03 each. Nice work if you can get it.

So, since it is all monopoly money to Central Banks, they can just burn the Dinar, what do they care? And if you think that is crazy, then you do not know how central banks operate. Central banks destroy assets all the time, to keep things in "balance" on the balance sheet.

LeLe   Loren thanks for your post. It would be nice if you posted more often; good-am everyone.

Sparky   LeLe Good Morning, and I agree... great post by Loren... Im on the same page... appreciate FrancisAlbert posts as well...

LeLe   Sparky I agree. Rome was not built overnight. We wait and try and keep up or health, strength and mind. I didn't buy my Dinar because of guru's. I bought it because of a possible increase in value. Yes I agree with FrancisAlbert as well. I think we will see something Sooooooon.

kevin311312   Sparky what do you think of that 10 rial

Sparky   LeLe ... I found out about IQD from an environmental engineer from P&G...also invested, and optimistic...

kevin311312   note

Sparky   kevin311312 ...not much...not in my wheelhouse...

kevin311312   lol

Sparky   kevin311312 ...if it's Iranian Rial...it's going to plummet...

kevin311312   its from the cbi   scroll up

Sparky   kevin311312 ...oh... I'll check it out... just saw a few minutes ago... didn't realize it was CBI issue...

kevin311312   vary strange

Baxter   is that what that is... a Rial currency?

Sparky   kevin311312 ...Rial...v Dinar ?

kevin311312   its a laary

Sparky   kevin311312 ...looks like the dude on the 10 k note, inventor of mathematics...?

kevin311312   https://cbi.iq/news/view/1349

Sparky   kevin311312 ... National Bank of Georgia...CBI affiliation...not to my knowledge...lets see what, if any articles pop..

Sparky   kevin311312 ...they would have to educate the public...and I haven't seen or heard anything about it...

Larrykn   Pope condemns Iraq's 'harsh' crackdown on protesters https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44881/Pope-condemns-Iraq-s-harsh-crackdown-on-protesters

larrykn   Iraqi court sentences commando to death for killing protesters https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44883/Iraqi-court-sentences-commando-to-death-for-killing-protesters

Francis Albert   Looks like they are finally signing the HCL deal with the Kurds today/tomorrow. The Goat has long said this was an important piece of the pie.

larrykn   Iraqi Protesters Call for Dismissal of President after PM’s Resignation https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44884/Iraqi-Protesters-Call-for-Dismissal-of-President-after-PM-s-Resignation

Sparky   Francis Albert ...as does Adam...

Francis Albert   The Montana?

Sparky   Francis Albert ...yup...

Francis Albert   Cool. I've not followed him, but hear he's a "reliable source". Has good rep.

larrykn   Oil Minister: OPEC+ will consider increasing current production cuts to 1.6 million barrels per day

Economy News _ Baghdad   OPEC and its allies will consider increasing current production cuts by 400,000 barrels per day (bpd) to 1.6 million barrels per day (bpd), Oil Minister Thamer Al-Ghadban said Sunday.

Al-Ghadban told reporters in Baghdad that the organization and its allies in the so-called OPEC+ will consider further cuts at meetings scheduled to be held in Vienna this week.

Al-Ghadban said the unrest in the country has not affected crude production and export operations and there is a surplus of oil, and the agreement between Baghdad and the Kurdistan Region includes keeping the production ceiling from the region at 450,000 barrels per day. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18386

Sparky   Francis Albert ...ask Sam...

larrykn   Oil announces final statistics on oil exports and revenues achieved for the past month

Energy Economy News _ Baghdad   The Oil Ministry on Sunday announced the total exports and revenues generated for the month of November, according to preliminary statistics released by the Iraqi oil marketing company Somo.

"The amount of crude oil exports amounted to more than 105 million, 14,000 and 772 barrels (15,500,000 barrels), 14,772,722 barrels," oil ministry spokesman Assem Jihad said in a statement received by Economy News.

"The total amount of crude oil exported last November from oil fields in central and southern Iraq amounted to 102 million, 5,000 and 95 barrels, and from kirkuk fields through the port of Ceyhan, the total number of exports was 2.2 million and (95) barrels," he said. 381,000 and 65 barrels,

while the quantities exported from the Qayyara field amounted to 293,000 and 962 barrels, while the quantities exported to Jordan were 334,000 and 650 barrels."

"The total daily rate of exports was 3 million and 500,000 barrels, where the daily rate of exports from Basra ports was 3 million and 400,000 barrels, and from Ceyhan the daily average was 79,000 barrels,

 the daily average of qayyara field was 10,000 barrels, and the daily rate of export to Jordan was 11," he said. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18383

Francis Albert   Ask Same what? and who's Sam? :)

Sparky   Francis Albert ... regarding Adam, and Mountain Goat...Sam I am...member on this forum...

larrykn   You all have a great day :)

Francis Albert   Thanks..I'm good. Only so much attention to this at the moment.

Sparky   larrykn ...if they keep holding up production, technology will minimize oils worth...they may end up giving it away for water, if they're not careful...

Francis Albert   Sparky, I think there's lots of cool technology that is trying to and will come out. Yet, I don't think the oil thing is going to be threatened by it for some time..years. I may be wrong but the big boys wouldn't be investing so much into Iraq et al if oil's use was in near jeopardy.

Sparky   Francis Albert ...oh yes, agree... long term...decade maybe...

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IQD CALLS Chat Saturday 11-30-19

IQD CALLS Chat Saturday 11-30-19

Sparky   ... so what I gather, Sustani wants Mahdi out... Iranian puppet,...and Pompeo talking sanctions against individuals involved with hurting protestors...seems like we are squeezing Iran in a big way... elimination of Iranian influence in Iraq, is our key...then...we rricccchhhh...

Doug_W   Go get them Iraq

chattels   Masoud Barzani: Iraq constitution changes must not undermine Kurdish rights

  https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/301120191

chattels   Iraqi constitutional reform may take aim at Kurdish autonomy

  https://www.rudaw.net/english/opinion/30112019

chattels   Iraqi protesters may nonetheless present Baghdad with another opportunity to encroach on Kurdish autonomy. Changing the constitution may give the government what it perceives as legal-moral authority to incorporate the Kurdish Peshmerga into the federal forces on security and stability claims.

Such a move would leave Iraqi Kurdistan without its greatest component of autonomy – its own military force. Optimists in the Kurdistan Region may hope that the civil unrest will force the central government in Baghdad to revisit Article 140 of the 2005 constitution and call for a new referendum over the status of Kirkuk province. However, the past twelve years indicates that such optimism is wishful thinking.

Dave   Howdyn folks   Wow.....interesting news day!

Dave   Mahdi resigns..Sadr appoints.Abadi to replace him.......

Dave   Could not find article in chattels posts

Sparky   Dave ...Abadi distancd himself from DAWA some time ago, I hoped this would occur

crazy crypto   seems a caretaker government is already in place

crazy crypto   see ya mahdi   ** **

Dave   Then I should post article,,,,not sure anybody reads my posts

Sparky   Dave ... I'll read the first five words...at least..lol...

Dave   Twilight News / announced close to the current leader of the Sadrist Moqtada al – Sadr on Saturday that the latter will prevent political parties and currents , including all of his movement to form the next government after the resignation of the current headed by Adel Abdul Mahdi.

Saleh Mohammed al-Iraqi gave details of a meeting he had with Sadr and published what took place between them on social networking sites “Facebook”, and tell the latter “I did not and will not allow the return of corrupt in another dress and other names and we will prevent all parties and currents as prevented (Sadrists) from interfering in the formation of the government Commission and its law. “

The Iraqi quoted Sadr as saying, “We will pressure them and their peaceful to the judiciary to hold the corrupt and robbery, although they claim to belong to us as well as those who are outside us.”

Simultaneously, Sadr’s position launched a victory coalition leader Haider al-Abadi initiative on the current situation in Iraq.

Abadi said in a statement today that “ the continuation of our previous initiatives, especially the comprehensive initiative on 17/11/2019, and to ensure a smooth transition of power, and the proper establishment of the interim phase and the resulting structures of the permanent phase, ”

Dave Firstly:   A) From 1/12/2010 to 15/12/2019, and pursuant to Article 61 of the Constitution, and at the request of the President of the Republic, the House of Representatives shall withdraw confidence from the current government. A new government is formed with limited ministries and independent personalities, and an independent person is assigned to head it and none of its members is nominated for the upcoming elections.

(B) The Prime Minister shall be obliged to select a civilian activist as a supporter to ensure that the demonstrators are represented and to attend the people’s demands to administer the interim phase.

Second: The new government is six months old, starting from 15/12/2019 and ending on 30/6/2020. What comes:

A) Fair amendments to the electoral law to ensure the breaking of the political monopoly and ensure the rise of new and young forces and elites.

B) Formation of an electoral commission completely independent of political parties and blocs.

C) Establishing election controls and mechanisms that guarantee the integrity and free will of voters.

D) General elections shall be held. All stages of the elections shall be conducted under international supervision through the United Nations.

Dave   Third:   The term of the three powers of the “interim” period expires on 30/6/2020. The newly elected Council of Representatives shall commence its work on 1/7/2020 and proceed with the procedures of forming the authorities in accordance with the Constitution.

B) The new government formed during the first six months of its life, in cooperation with the main authorities in the country and under a time limit not exceeding the year 2020 AD to establish binding paths for constitutional amendments and submitted to the referendum before the end of 2020.

The political system and its institutions are adapted on the basis of the results of the popularly approved referendum.

Fourth: The new elected government shall, within the first six months of its life, commit to setting decisive timetables for arms control by the state, to end any military or paramilitary presence outside the framework of state institutions, and to end the files of detainees, missing and absentees in all governorates of Iraq.

Fifth: The elected government is committed, within the first six months of its formation, to reforming the judiciary and resolving the main corruption files with the assistance of the UN mission and by using international expertise. The public shall be kept informed of the results first.

Sixth: All parties and elites participating and winning elections shall be legally bound by the constitution, law and national sovereignty to exercise them, undertake to reject, combat and criminalize terrorism, violence, takfir, sectarianism, corruption and organized crime,

and to prevent any weapon or military presence outside the rule of law, and to confine the powers to extend security and protect citizens by state authorities.

Commitment to civil and political rights and duties and the values ​​of peaceful coexistence and the right to peaceful expression; to promote and support legal, institutional and social security to protect the country and its people; and to reject violence and resort to arms

Dave   There is more.....

Dave   dont wish to eat up bandwidth

Sparky   Dave ... please continue..

Dave   Eighth: Gives confidence to the elected government on the basis of the political majority away from the sectarian component of the political system, and offers a program subject to periodic accountability, and the government is committed to develop comprehensive plans to modernize administrative and financial systems, and move towards automation, transition to e-government, and the adoption of international standards to evaluate the performance of institutions ,

The completion of the advancement of the integrated market economy, the establishment of the Al Ajyal Fund, the sovereign fund, the National Development Plan, the Iraq Vision 2030, the Poverty Reduction Strategy, the fight against unemployment, the activation of social security networks,

Expedite agricultural, industrial, commercial and banking, including the promotion of the advancement of the economic sectors of services, energy, transportation, information technology and communications, and the development of centers of administrative and professional skills of state institutions and beyond.

The elected government is committed, through comprehensive programs, to empowering youth and women in the political, economic, educational and development sectors, ensuring the rights of women and the rights of children, juveniles and the elderly and legislative protection for them, and emphasizing the implementation of the objectives of the law on the care of people with special needs.

Educational curricula in accordance with the educational development and to ensure the consolidation of the culture of coexistence and civic values ​​and national identity, and pay attention to culture, media, arts, sports and civil work The state and its society and facilities.

Ninth: The elected government and all the authorities of the country are obliged to provide legislative and societal protection to all Iraqi minorities of their religious, national and sectarian diversity, not to practice exclusion, marginalization or aggressio

Dave   Ninth: The elected government and all the authorities of the country are obliged to provide legislative and societal protection to all Iraqi minorities of their religious, national and sectarian diversity, not to practice exclusion, marginalization or aggression against them, and to ensure their compensation and return to their areas of residence, and respect their privacy.

Tenth: The elected government and all other authorities of the country shall abide by the requirements of Iraqi sovereignty, ensure the liberation of the Iraqi decision from any foreign domination or guardianship, and investigate cooperation and integration with the world on the basis of common interests in accordance with Iraqi interests and sovereignty.

Dave   Sadr announces banning all parties from forming the next government and Abadi launches an initiative

Sparky   Dave ...Imu, to continue reforms he previously started..

Dave   Sparky now with peeps dying in the streets like never before

Dave   Sadr dug his heels in this time?   or more yadda yadda?

Sparky   Dave ...yup, could be, after all, we're talking about Iraq...

Dave   QUOTA SYSTEM needs to go......

Dave   accountability before resuming seat?   or re election

Sparky   Dave ... something tells me, this time might be different..

Dave   Sparky sadr maybe fed up?

Dave   Now ironically he may be the leader of the party ,but has no seat

Sparky   Dave ...and Sistani ... dynamic duo...

Baxter   DOBBINS scores another TD... Ohio State 56... Michigan 27..... 6 min left

Sparky   Baxter ...yup, you called it Bax...by 30...

Baxter   yep

Dave   like I said not sure if peeps read news posts LOL

Baxter   you have a link for that dave

Dave   Baxter https://search4dinar.wordpress.com/

Sparky   Dave ...best Shi ite I recall reading..

Baxter   thx

Dave   3rd article down

Sparky   Dave ...lots of electoral rhetoric in that article...

Dave   “I did not and will not allow the return of corrupt in another dress and other names and we will prevent all parties and currents as prevented (Sadrists) from interfering in the formation of the government Commission and its law. “

Sparky   Dave ...yup... liking that statement...

Dave   Sam ....you figure Iraq maybe committed now in getting some implementation Done?

Dave   Sparky yeah gotta get those notes off the streets

Sparky   Dave ... security, stability, and a fully seated government...per Shabbibi...

Dave   Sparky as per any nation

Sam I Am   Dave I don't know what implementation you're referring to, but if you mean RV then no ... there's no RV coming. Maybe if inflation becomes an issue they're raise the value a few %, but the IQD will never be worth more than 1/10 of a penny even if Iraq is transformed into paradise overnight.

Sparky   Sam I Am ...are you sure ?

Dave   Sam I Am oh so you do not follow the news developments?

Sam I Am   Sparky YEP

Sam I Am   Dave No need. The money supply and the reserves are all you need

Sam I Am   It's simple math

Sparky   Sam I Am ... development will drive the value...imo...

Dave   Sam I Am How many fils for that coke?

Dave   a wheel barrows worth!

Sam I Am   Dave There are no fils

Sam I Am   don't know how many times I have to say that

Dave   EXACTLY

Sam I Am   they did away with fils years ago

Sam I Am   they only use fils as an accounting device

Sparky   Sam I Am ...filsadelphia...Pa...

Sparky   Sam I Am ... historically, they have used fils and LD's, ...when things finally settled down, they will again...imo...

Sparky   Sam I Am ...they are currently not even using their own currency...to the extent that they should be...

Sam I Am   Sparky That's true. They want to de-dollarize via redenomination

Sparky   Sam I Am ...that is fine with me, with gradual rise from go...triple my investment, easy...imo...

Dave   Sparky Sparky opinions not required if you follow CBI

Sparky   Dave ... I'm just thinking, this is nearly no lose situation... with patience...

Dave   Sparky CBI has a vision....the politicians only care for themselves...namely IMMUNITY

Sparky   Dave ... totally agree..

Sparky   Dave ...time for new young bloods...

Dave   thought that in last election with those technocrats....but that Quota system

Dave   Maliki remains King

Sparky   Dave ... I think noose may be tightened on that d bag...

Sparky   Dave ...his paid twerps will probably sell him down the river for a slice of pizza...if offered immunity from prosecution...

Sparky    Dave ... albeit a shi ite load of twerps...

Dave   --s2h

Sparky   Dave ... I have little patience for radical Muslims...

kevin311312   Dave thanks for the news that was great

Sparky   Dave ...kill the infidel... what type of crap is that...and whose God do they serve ?

Dave   Maliki aint the only one,,,,,,,,Many multi billionaires.......

Dave   Allawi Talabanis Najafi etc etc

Sparky   Dave ... probably mitigate, not eliminate corruption...

Sparky   Dave ... even that would be a huge step forward...

Dave   talking like ....ALL of them

Dave   Where did you get That!

Sparky   Dave ...yup... everyone's getting fat, except for the citizens...

Sparky   Dave ...oh, I stole it from the CBI...is that wrong ?

Sparky   Dave ... everyone else was doing it...blah blah blah...

Sparky   ... allocated project funds going straight into the pockets of the corrupt ministers...

Baxter   Yep

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IQD CALLS Chat Friday Night 11-29-19

IQD CALLS Chat Friday Night 11-29-19

Baxter   DID YOU KNOW.... that a stack of 18 billion dinars is 1200 miles high...?? DID YOU KNOW that a stack of 40 trillion dinars... is.....are you ready.... 2.7 MILLION MILES HIGH

Baxter   THATS the difference from billions.. to Trillions...

Dave    Baxter what of the USA deficit?

Baxter   well... if its 20 trillion.. it would be about 1.4 million miles high

Baxter   be half of that

Dave   Baxter 40 Trillion news from yrs ago......

Baxter   whys that

Dave   Baxter COI frozen120-150 billion USD........my calculator does not have that many zeros to convert

Baxter   mine doesnt either

Dave   Tons of dinar how high?????

Baxter   I just told you... one dinar notes... 18 billion... is 1200 miles high.... 40 trillion... is 2million 700 thousand miles high

Dave   Baxter what one dinar note

Baxter   yes

Baxter   or one dollar.. whats the difference

Baxter   about same thickness

Dave   from.00086

Dave   toilet paper worth more

Dave   each piece about the same....i prefer double ply

Dave   size and thickness

Baxter   maybe something will happen next year.... I kind of doubt it...but who knows

Dave   Baxter Did some checking on S Korea though

Dave   Hyundai only makes 1.6 units a yr.....,.Iraq pumps 5-6 million units per day

Dave   average wage in S Korea 4-5 times more than Iraq

Dave   S Korea double the population and a quarter the size

Baxter   Oh... I can believe that.. Iraqis make about 4-500 a month...

Dave   Koreans most educated peeps on the planet

Dave    Have a reliable power grid and sanitation

Dave   Korea has little else other than rice

Baxter   that wasnt my point dave.. my point was... the south korean currency is worth a tenth of a penny.. just like Iraqs... and they are getting along just fine.... and Im sure they dont use wheelbarrows to go to the grocery store...

Baxter   they just held the world olympics... their cars are now built all over the world..and they are a thriving economy

Baxter   all on a tenth of a penny

Dave   Baxter compare Saudis currency to Kuwait

Dave   1 South Korean Won =  0.0011 Canadian Dollar

Baxter   thats probably about right

Dave   Saudi .25.....? ish

Baxter   yes.. but how much is out there??

Dave   Baxter Only Kap knows fer sure

Dave   CBI taking it in one door and out the other to pay staff in Dinar.....

Baxter   amount of reserve currency... and the amount of money supply has a direct impact on the value

Baxter   the money supply is what is killing Iraq... they went from 18 billion before the war.. to over 40 trillion....

Dave   Baxter What CBI takens in each month for the last 2 yrs.......

Dave   40 trillion easy......

Baxter   the cbi... puts that dinar right back out and cycles it again... it is not kep

Baxter   kept

Dave   Baxter Thats right it goes to pay staff???????

Dave   Baxter you know that

Dave   ?

Baxter   there is still trillions of dinar out there.....

Dave   according to whom?

Baxter   the cbi for one... they put out reports every once in a while

Dave   Baxter seen it.......

Dave   shot holes in that

Baxter   well.. Im gonna go have supper.... will be back later..

Dave   Baxter enjoy

spankie   how much in circulation and the other would be what countries hold

spankie   not that much in circulation- not 40 tril

spankie   korean money prolly good investment

TWWIII   I never do Black Friday, never. So I saw silver at 17.11 today, when to the place I buy my rounds & grams & they had a Black Friday sale. Only 2 of us there. But I bought my rounds at 16.33 so I bought several. NOT A BAD PRICE.

TWWIII   spankie I hav SKW as weli

spankie   they cannot stay low forever

TWWIII   I agree, cant

spankie   need to go on a buying spree for property in south korea

TWWIII   hummmmmmmm

spankie   friend from church wanted wife and i to go w to s korea-- time was not right but wanted to go

spankie   go to a korean church - nice people-

spankie   is it not better to buy silver coins and jewelry

spankie   or too much work

TWWIII   spankie I think silver Rounds & Grams is the best way to buy silver. I have done that over the past 20+ yrs, always made a profit when the market was good to sell

Dave   TWWIII should check out ebay for silver coins....10 bucks for a roll of silver DIMES

TWWIII   Dave Ebay prices are way higher market, I check daily. $25+ for a round, no way & some plus shipping

Dave   TWWIII used to buy alot of cdn coins on ebay for way less than melt price

TWWIII   Here we no longer have melting avail unless I drive all the to Seattle

Dave   purchased many coins from ebay.......never paid more than 50% of melt value

TWWIII   Dave Keep buying on Ebay, just not my 1st choice

Dave TWWIII took some work and time yes....

Dave   figured if i could quadruple my purchase i did well

*TWWIII   Dave Yrs ago I got good prices on Ebay like 1909vbs pennies for abt .35 each before sellers were selling for less than today, merk dimes, etc

Dave   TWWIII Been collecting old silver coins since i was a paper boy

TWWIII   Dave I sold a batch of silver abt 6yrs when silver hit $50 oz that I was buying in the 90's & early 2000., I sold most of mine then

Dave   TWWIII hehe thats what i am waiting for

TWWIII   It will happen again, I have been stud'ing TRENDS since the 70's & have done quite well.

Dave   silver seems to be stuck

Dave   wanna see 20.00 may sell some

TWWIII   Silver most of the follows gold rates. Like today Gold dropped & silver abt the same %age

Dave   silver way more utilized

Dave   under valued still

TWWIII   If the market has a major drop, ir be easier to barter with Grams of silver vs grams of Gold especially for food & other commodities.

Dave   heck i just like hoarding silver.....

Dave   Dad collected coins......genetics maybe

TWWIII   I do the same with other items +_ silver

Baxter   VERY INTERESTING READ: Something is seriously starting to break in China's financial system.

Three days after we described the self-destructive doom loop that is tearing apart China's smaller banks, where a second bank run took place in just two weeks –

an unprecedented event for a country where until earlier this year not a single bank was allowed to fail publicly and has now had no less than five bank high profile nationalizations/bailouts/runs so far this year - the Chinese bond market is bracing itself for an unprecedented shock: a major, Fortune 500 Chinese commodity trader is poised to become the biggest and highest profile state-owned enterprise to default in the dollar bond market in over two decades.

In what Bloomberg dubbed the latest sign that Beijing is more willing to allow failures in the politically sensitive SOE sector - either that, or China is simply no longer able to control the spillovers from its cracking $40 trillion financial system - commodity trader Tewoo Group - the largest state-owned enterprise in China's Tianjin province - has offered an "unprecedented" debt restructuring plan that entails deep losses for investors or a swap for new bonds with significantly lower returns.

Baxter   Tewoo Group is a SOE conglomerate, owned by the local government and operates in a number of industries including infrastructure, logistics, mining, autos and ports, according to its website. It also operates in multiples countries including the U.S., Germany, Japan and Singapore.

The company ranked 132 in 2018’s Fortune Global 500 list, higher than many other Chinese conglomerates including service carrier China Telecommunications and financial titan Citic Group.

Even more notable are the company's financials: it had an annual revenue of $66.6 billion, profits of about $122 million, assets worth $38.3 billion, and more than 17,000 employees as of 2017, according to Fortune’s website

Baxter   EVIDENTLY... some of Trumps sanctions... are working...

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chattels   Abadi calls for the resignation of the current government

Thursday 28 November 18:54 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=799652

chattels   Sadr calls on the government to resign immediately and the demonstrators to continue to demonstrate /  expanded

Thursday 28 November 18:26 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=799647

chattels   Urgent in the light of developments in Dhi Qar .. An emergency session of the parliament next Sunday

Release date:: 2019/11/28 21:54 http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=84922

chattels   Urgent Presidency of Parliament: Next week will see a vote on the election and commission

Release date:: 2019/11/28 22:00 http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=84924

chattels   Abdul Mahdi directs the investigation into the events that took place today in Najaf and Dhi Qar

Date: Editing:: 28/11/2018 22:45 • http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=84927

chattels   The provinces of Dhi Qar and Najaf witnessed on Thursday, clashes between the security forces and demonstrators led to the fall of a large number of martyrs and wounded between the two sides.

chattels   In Iraq, 32 killed in Nasiriya City today. http://mobp.as/qNF9p

chattels   In Iraq, governor of Dhi Qar Province submits his resignation.

chattels   Courtesy of https://twitter.com/DavidMWitty1?lang=en

chattels   Iraq clamps down on media and broadcast networks covering protests

Mustafa Saadoun November 28, 2019

 Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraq-protests-media.html#ixzz66d5mtbTm

Futuremoney   looks like PM Mahdi is going to resign

spankie   futuremoney with mahdi and all the other bandits gone we will have better chances on the iqd- too much Iran- and hang Maliki to show the people there is change

futuremoney   I don't think anything will change

spankie   specially if Iran is in charge- maliki still there shows this

spankie   as usual we wait

Dave   Howdy Folks....any Real good news?

Dave   Mahdi and others resigned today?

Doug_W   if not today USA Soon Dave

Dave   USA wants Iraq to go after the corrupt.....How

Doug_W    hey it is what it is~~

Dave   i know we are on the same page.....esp regarding all this corruption

Dave   politicians dancing around it

Dave   while protesters are getting killed

Dave   postpone and delay is their MO

Dave   futuremoney Well?..... Doug defers to you...

Dave   USA urges Jobs, ending the Quota system and do sumthin with the corruption

Francis Albert   In my experience of studying the monetary system for more years than most of you brothers and sisters have been on Planet Earth, we know one thing. All politics is performance art. Thus, all of the infighting, Right/Left, impeachment stuff is aimed at keeping our eyes off of the ball.

Dave    the COI has frozen 120-150 billion usd.......Thats a few dinar tied up toward this note count.........

Francis Albert   And the ball, IMO, is the Dollar Inc. Brand. Those who control most all things economically i.e. IMF, World Bank, BIS, all Central Banks except Russia, N. Korea and China...are owned and operated by Dollar Inc. It is quite the brand indeed. And their only concern is not loosing market share, which they haven't in a long time.

Dave   Francis Albert Thought is all about Iraq?

Dave   Francis Albert iraq has had no market share for decades

Francis Albert   Another Thus IMO. All these bloggers, pundits, economic gurus predicting the "Demise of the Dollar." "Market Collapse", "Reset" blah blah are just dialing for customers. Fear and destruction sells. I encourage you not to buy into it. And be grateful, very grateful, when this investment comes through, you will have an opportunity to exchange the IQD for good ole' Federal Reserve Notes. Fiat? Of course, but they are the cleanest dirty shirt in the laundry. May the blessings be.

Dave   I only know of what CBI has stated....

Dave   Recollect Sanction Rate Vs Reality Rate convos over the many yrs

Dave   WTO talks of Iraq dropping this chunky money?

Francis Albert   Dave - Iraq. IMO Iraq is totally controlled by The Dollar Inc. crowd and sometimes President Trump does what they want. And "They" want a strong, vibrant, healthy Iraq for they have spent Trillions setting Iraq up for the ultimate possession to keep an eye on all things Middle East. Priceless.

Dave   Francis Albert i agree in part

Dave   USA did spend alot bombing Iraq into obscurity looking for weapons of mass destruction]

Dave   and then setting up Maliki.......

Dave   We covered this previously numerous time did we not SAM?

Dave   times

Young_SC   Dave where has kap been?

crazy crypto   actually francis i disagree with the fiat approach that is what has gotten us into this mess we are in

Young_SC   Still preaching the too much dinar in circulation slogan or no?

crazy crypto   their MUST be an alternative hence the talks of digital currency from many countries

Dave   the stuff he throws at that barn door doe not seem to stick very well here i suppose

Dave   does

crazy crypto   even facebook is tryin to get a headstart on launching the libra

crazy crypto     these corporations all know ahead of time what is coming

Dave   Young_SC yeah kap states those Trillions in dinar collected at the auctions are stuffed in envelopes to pay staff

Dave   Thought they created those Q cards for that

Francis Albert   Well, you may "disagree" with the fiat model, but with respect, get used to it because it just isn't going anywhere anytime soon. And anyone who says it is, is selling something or just doesn't understand the current system, it's history etc.

crazy crypto   I agree it wont completely go away but i think our system needs a major overhaul on how the fed handles money and how countries value their wealth and currency and i believe that is coming when trump wins again in 2020

crazy crypto   in my opinion

crazy crypto   true

crazy crypto   cant print our way to prosperity and the fed knows this

Francis Albert   I appreciate your enthusiasm for wanting a strong currency, Trump does this, and he wouldn't be able to leave the White House and have three food tasters. hahha Not happening.

Francis Albert    They can continue to print until they run out of zeros. Or folks refuse the dollar. And to this day, with all the money being dumped in, with repos etc. The world is buying treasuries at a brisk pace and China continues to hold U.S. debt, 1.2 Trillion

crazy crypto    they already are more and more countries are turning away from the dollar

crazy crypto   where ave u been?

Francis Albert   They are not interested in prosperity, that is what most of you idealist miss, they are only interested in retaining control of the World's reserve currency

Francis Albert    Let's not get snarky Crazy....I've been here and I know the dollar hasn't lost market share even with some Countries snubbing the dollar.

crazy crypto    doesnt mean it is happening

Dave   Just checked out IQDteams news for today...........re..reads the same from 10 yrs ago ..........NO Changes yet in Iraq.....still discussing same issues.......

Baxter   well... at least we arent going backwards... LOL

Dave   tells me if they were not rady for this 10 yrs ago......they are no futher along

Dave   ready

Baxter   whats another ten years....

Dave   lots of peeps getting killed now and its not the sectarian stuff this time

Dave   they are after the politicians

Baxter   DID YOU KNOW.... that a stack of 18 billion dinars is 1200 miles high...?? DID YOU KNOW that a stack of 40 trillion dinars... is.....are you ready.... 2.7 MILLION MILES HIGH

Baxter   THATS the difference from billions.. to Trillions...

Dave   Baxter what of the USA deficit?

Baxter   well... if its 20 trillion.. it would be about 1.4 million miles high

Baxter   be half of that

Dave    Baxter 40 Trillion news from yrs ago......

Baxter   whys that

Dave   Baxter COI frozen120-150 billion USD........my calculator does not have that many zeros to convert

Baxter   mine doesnt either

Dave   Tons of dinar how high?????

Baxter   I just told you... one dinar notes... 18 billion... is 1200 miles high.... 40 trillion... is 2million 700 thousand miles high

Dave   Baxter what one dinar note

Baxter   yes

Baxter   or one dollar.. whats the difference

Baxter   about same thickness

Dave   from.00086

Baxter   maybe something will happen next year.... I kind of doubt it...but who knows

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