IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 12-3-19

IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 12-3-19

Dinard   howdy fellow dinarians. hows all you anonymous folk doing out there?

dinard   anyone know if pm habibi shabibibi al goat convinced trump to push that RV button? i heard he was using the RV as a bargaining chip to make al queda peace talks resume. hence giving al queda true power over our RV

larrykn   Iraq sees renewed clashes between security forces, demonstrators https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44910/Iraq-sees-renewed-clashes-between-security-forces-demonstrators

larrykn   Seven Killed; ISIS Attack on Oil Fields https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44912/Seven-Killed-ISIS-Attack-on-Oil-Fields

larrykn   Iraqi families demand accountability after protest deaths https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44913/Iraqi-families-demand-accountability-after-protest-deaths

larrykn   Intensive security deployment in southern Iraq https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44914/Intensive-security-deployment-in-southern-Iraq

larrykn   Iraq parties in talks over new PM amid unrelenting protests https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/021220191

sandyf@Chattels sandyf I am involved in a number of groups. Does the viable entity referenced by you have a name ?

I am not going to be any more specific on that,sorry. If you haven't already done what was required then I am afraid it is too late. It does not pay to get too optimistic, things have failed at the last minute in the past.

If there is to be a global change then from an accounting point of view, Jan 1st is the most appropriate point in time.

chattels   sandyf Thanks. My wife is a member of several groups and much has been done to comply with the groups' conditions precedent, but i question the legitimacy of these groups/people.

chattels   But, if you knew one to be more viable than another I wanted to know if she is a member of that group.

chattels   Parliament on Sunday formally tasked President Barham Salih with naming a new candidate, as prescribed by the constitution.

https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/021220191

chattels   Demonstrators say the problem is systemic, so instead of packing up their protest camps after Abdul-Mahdi's resignation, they doubled down.

They insist they want "none of the same faces" that have dominated Iraq's political scene for years, a demand that has complicated the search for a new premier.

chattels   Two years since ISIS defeat, foreign investors look to Nineveh https://www.rudaw.net/english/business/021220191

chattels   Committees, meetings and conferences. Always " fixin' to do something " and lauding the potential of Iraq. A day comes for us all, individually and collectively, that potential is obscured and lost to reality. That reality is that Iraq may never be able to realize its potential, no matter how great.

chattels   " Nothing in the World can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination are omnipotent. The slogan "press on" has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race." - Calvin Coolidge

chattels   I am in agreement with Kaperoni about the timing of any increase in the value of the IQD. " 12-3-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni So the protestors wanted PM Mahdi to resign...which he did, but the result will cause delays in reforms.

New formation of GOI will take at least a few months, delays in passing laws also. The end result is a 6 month to 1 year delay in my opinion of implimenting economic reforms and creating a private sector.

And as usual, parliament loves to have a distraction rather than focus on what they should be doing...which is passing laws...the facts don't lie. Until the laws are passed and stability exists nobody is coming to invest. And until they have significant investment, the CBI will not begin currency reform."

chattels   Completion of he banking reform project in Iraq is highly unlikely given the lack of security and instability of Iraq.

chattels   I am always most hopeful in the first quarter of the year, but .............

chattels   the*

chattels   The Iraqi political regime is " on life support ", IMO.

chattels   Assaults from without and corruption from within.

chattels   Would that our persistence and determination could have any effect upon Iraq, but alas it does and will not. We are spectators and speculators.

chattels   What comes after Iraqi PM's resignation?

Adnan Abu Zeed December 3, 2019

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/12/iraq-protests-abdul-mahdi.html#ixzz673N1ZDSv

chattels   “Far from the desires of political blocs that often bypass the laws, the constitution states that the largest parliamentary bloc, Sairoon, is the one that chose the current PM. Consequently, the new candidate must be chosen by the second-largest parliamentary bloc after Sairoon, which is the Fatah Alliance.”

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/12/iraq-protests-abdul-mahdi.html#ixzz673NQmwSm

chattels   " .............. doubts this step will succeed because protesters “want comprehensive political and constitutional change. The crisis is set to escalate.”

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/12/iraq-protests-abdul-mahdi.html#ixzz673NVaktR

chattels   “The alliance supports early elections after amendment of the electoral law. The prime minister would be chosen based on a live public referendum.”

He added, “That would satisfy the people, and the PM would be able to choose the ministers, far from factional, partisan and sectarian quota.”

However, protesters’ demands go beyond what Suleiti outlined. In a statement, protesters in 10 Iraqi provinces made seven demands following Abdul Mahdi’s resignation announcement, including “ongoing protests until parties disappear and the quota system ends, constitutional amendment, a fair electoral law and a new electoral commission, early elections under UN supervision and accountability for all those implicated in killing protesters, including Abdul Mahdi.”

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/12/iraq-protests-abdul-mahdi.html#ixzz673Nmy9Q7

chattels   “The current government will be a caretaker one, after parliament withdraws confidence. The premiership won’t be vacant but expired. However, the premier will continue work until parliament votes for a new premier to replace him.

The president will have 30 days to commission a new premier, but first, the largest [qualified] bloc legally must be determined. The bloc then presents its candidate for the president to commission him. The candidate then nominates the new ministers and will have 30 days to receive parliament’s confidence. The current government can remain in its caretaker capacity for 60 days.”

 Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/12/iraq-protests-abdul-mahdi.html#ixzz673O8IqG1

chattels   “The influential political parties and their parliamentary blocs are seeking to pacify the situation by agreeing on a transitional government for six months as an early step. This is the most likely option.”

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/12/iraq-protests-abdul-mahdi.html#ixzz673OJtQE0

chattels   I do not know that the Iraqi protestors will accept the road map of any political party.

chattels   Pacification is anathema to revolution.

chattels   Iraqi MP describes selection process for new PM; all blocs agree new PM must not belong to any political party & must have integrity, competence & national acceptable. All blocs except Sairoon will participate in nomination process. http://iraqnewsapp.com/1/Article/2244/188776288#.XeWjHSVOmEc  

chattels   Is there an Iraqi without prior political affiliation or service that is honest, competent and acceptable to the people of Iraq ?

futuremoney   no

chattels   Reidar Visser @reidarvisser  It has emerged #Iraq parliament used an ad hoc reference to art 75 of the constitution to justify circumvention of art 81. This is particularly far fetched. 1. Art 75 deals with presidency not premiership. 2. There's no mention of a caretaker govt. 3. Deputy takes over if applied https://twitter.com/reidarvisser

chattels   Visser is saying that the actions of Parliament are inconsistent with the constitution, IMO.

chattels   What an absolute mess.

futuremoney    a black hole country

Clay   thats an understatement

Doug_W   Silver:$17.25

Chattels   Salam al-Shammari: Alliance / Siron / will not vote on the next prime minister without the consent of peaceful demonstrators

Tuesday 03 December 17:26 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=800517

chattels   Al-Maliki: We are with any candidate in which the specifications set by the highest religious authority and political and social forces / expanded

Tuesday 03 December 15:25 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=800501

chattels   Government of Kurdistan: We hope to implement what has been agreed with the Federal Ministry of Finance in Baghdad

Tuesday 03 December 15:58 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=800507

chattels   Wonder what happens if the KRG again becomes aggressive about independence from the arguably failed state that is Iraq ?

chattels   Fasten your seat belts. This ride may get bumpier.

chattels   Add to all of this the need for amendment of the electoral law(s) and the constitution.!

chattels   And the budget law !

biff   chattels Warka bank server was shut on friday. No one access their accounts now

chattels   biff Lovely, eh ?

biff   lol

biff   I was able to access Credit Bank of Iraq

chattels   And that's the way that it is from the news that I read out of Iraq on this Tuesday, December 3, 2019. God help us.

biff   Civil War maybe

chattels   Duty and the privilege of service to my fellow man are calling. Have a fine day all.

chattels   biff The madness of men.

biff   Iraq is holding contracts from other countries. They have x amount time to fullfill the contracts by 15 Dec 2019

chattels    biff You seem knowledgeable about certain business realities in Iraq.

biff   Good Morning Clay you ol war horse you

biff   Chattels been in this since 2005 bought and got my currency in Kuwait. Also a few bank and stock accounts in iraq.

biff   I have not bought any new dinar since

biff   If I lose out i'm not worried

biff   money already spend

chattels   biff I remember a time when the Warka accounts were much discussed and there was also talk about dates on contracts in the days of OkieOilMan.

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chattels   biff You and I are similarly situated. I have done what I am going to do and intent upon riding it out. As you say the money is spent.

biff   I was on the Invester Iraq forum for 12 years. A lot of people were on the site. I remember okie and few others

chattels   biff You are a long timer. I got in in 2011.

biff   That site is gone too

chattels   biff I have been on several sites that have come and gone. Some of the peeps have passed on as well.

biff   Lots of info on the site. Believe it or not all the gurus started for there

biff   Yes its sad

chattels   biff Yes, we may be trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, but.............. .

biff   I'm like this. If happends it happends.

biff   I have a plan in place

chattels   biff I have often opined that this speculation may be a multi-generational event and I may not live to see any value.

chattels   Maybe my children will profit from my dreaming.

biff   I studied how the banks are going to charge fee and taxes for this

Clay   THINKIN SO

Clay   mine too

chattels   biff I spoke with a banker about the fees attendant to exchanging exotic currencies. Not pretty if the same percentages apply.

biff   True

biff   Gotta go chat later

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Wilder   Many of these cantracts for this month and going in to 2020. Who knows with how things are now

Wilder   Clay Lets go to Iraq and be plumbers. Paid with dinar. https://www.salaryexpert.com/salary/job/plumber-pipe-fitter-and-steam-fitter/iraq

Clay   never     they will kill each other for another 1000 years

Doug_W   Clay my goodness you Mr NICE today Eh?

Wilder   Unitet Naitions current meetings. http://www.uniraq.com/index.php?lang=en

Wilder   Clay they need plbg for morgues. Job security.

Wilder   TECHNOLOGY

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