IQD CALLS Chat Early Monday 10-14-19

IQD CALLS Chat Early Monday 10-14-19

Chattels   Iraq protests: 9 former officials to face corruption charges

11-10-2019 https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/11102019

chattels   Without naming them, the PM said the nine officials include two former ministers and their undersecretaries in the Ministries of Minerals and Industry, Transportation, Higher Education, and Health.

chattels   Since taking power in October 2018, Abdul-Mahdi has said his government’s priority is to clamp down on corruption. Critics say he has moved too slowly, however. Now the PM in under mounting pressure to deliver results – and not just a few token scalps.

chattels   " ................ not just a few token scalps."

Baxter   ONLY 9.... theres more than that

Baxter   Probably more like 9 honest ones.. the rest are crooked

Baxter   Doug... the banks are closed today.... Columbus day

chattels   Baghdad / Nina / Foreign currency markets in Baghdad, on Monday, stability in the exchange rate of the US dollar against the Iraqi dinar.

The market price in Baghdad today is 1204 dinars per dollar, or 120 thousand and 400 dinars for one hundred dollars.

The prices of buying and selling dollars in banking companies, as follows:

The sale price per dollar 1207.5 dinars, or 120 thousand and 750 dinars for one hundred dollars.

The purchase price of the dollar is 1197.5 dinars, or 119 thousand and 750 dinars for one hundred dollars https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=792272

chattels   " ......... 1204 dinars per dollar, or 120 thousand and 400 dinars for one hundred dollars."

chattels   BAGHDAD / NINA / The number of unemployed who applied for emergency grant from the Ministry of Labor and Social Affairs during the week, more than one million and 344 thousand citizens.

https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=792275

Baxter   thats putting the people to work.... alright....

chattels   The two biggest political blocs formed in Iraq after the 2018 parliamentary elections are pressuring Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi to not resign, despite the protests that have gripped Iraq since the beginning of October.

Abdul Mahdi became prime minister after a consensus was reached between the Fatah Alliance, headed by Hadi al-Amiri, and the Sairoon Alliance, headed by Muqtada al-Sadr. Both alliances are linked to Iran, yet, since the Sairoon Alliance appears to take decisions independently from Iran, the latter's ability to pressure the bloc into working for its agenda in Iraq is limited.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-adel-abdul-mahdi.html#ixzz62KdpA3Fs

chattels   Political analysts believe that Sadr’s and Amiri’s alliances are keeping Mahdi in power for pragmatic reasons, even though Sadr asked Abdul Mahdi's government to resign in an official statement. Yet Sadr's statement contradicted the message his negotiators brought to Abdul Mahdi.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-adel-abdul-mahdi.html#ixzz62KeDKr3Y

chattels   " Sadr asked Abdul Mahdi's government to resign in an official statement."

chattels   There is no integrity amongst the political elite in Iraq.

chattels   Kurdish leaders support Iraq's embattled prime minister   Omar Sattar October 13, 2019

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-kurdistan-abdul-mahdi.html#ixzz62KfGt6Ui

chattels   Well, kinda, maybe. Geeesh !

chattels   Kurdish leader and former Iraqi Finance Minister Hoshyar Zebari wrote in a tweet that the government won't be able to fulfill its promises to the demonstrators. "Iraqi anti-government protests are continuing in different districts of Baghdad and the south," he said.

"The pledges given by Iraq's three presidencies [Abdul Mahdi, President Barham Salih and parliament Speaker Mohammed al-Halbusi] to meet and quiet demonstrators are unworkable."

Zebari said the pledges would increase Iraq's 2020 budget deficit to more than $30 billion.

"Realism is needed," he added.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-kurdistan-abdul-mahdi.html#ixzz62KfXqx4d

chattels   There is a novel concept for Iraq. Realism vs. rhetoric.

chattels   " ...... the Kurdish position in favor of Abdul Mahdi's government can't be considered final, and may turn into a position in favor of demonstrations, calling for early parliamentary elections in case the negotiations between the two sides fail"

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-kurdistan-abdul-mahdi.html#ixzz62KfuNSZV

Zig  , Dinar Recaps copies this chat daily.....you can go back much further there though they edit out some.......

Baxter   Chattels.... I believe its time to move on to something more promising... this aint cutting it...

chattels   Baxter Difficult to argue reasonably against such a conclusion. I am just obstinate I suppose.

Baxter   I think we all must be....   we are still here

chattels   I will stay the course.

Baxter   might as well...

chattels    Does not mean that one has to accept " pie in the sky " statements from others regarding an imminent and favorable outcome.

Baxter   well.. we can agree its not imminent...... favorable is another story

chattels   We could call it " jaded optimism ".

Baxter   there you go...

chattels   A bit of an oxymoron.

Clay   Good Morning all  So Trump lost us a very important ally in the ME

Baxter   MR Clay... Good Morning   who is that

Clay      the Kurds   Kurds now getting help from Syria and Russia

Baxter   we have helped too many for too long

Baxter   it is never ending clay

Clay   but we r letting them get creamed by the Turks

Clay   no its not

Baxter   I think he will embargo turkey

Baxter   sanctions seem to hurt more than troops

Clay   too little too late

Baxter   well.. thats true

Clay   we are letting the Russians get more influence in the region

Baxter   yes.. thats true

Clay   not a smart move

Baxter   well.... it probably wasnt...

Baxter   I think you will see sanctions announced this week

chattels   spankie It is not looking like the dinar will be a viable retirement plan.

spankie   u cannot tell at this point- but it does not look good- u would think it would have happened

spankie   I would say toooo much corruption to add value to the corrupt pockets

spankie   obvious Maliki needs to be incarcerated-- until that happens—

Andrewetoldthem   What happen After Iraq complete their government ?What come next ?

1. I would like to say 1st I hope you guys take notes and also mark the words of this gurus and call them out on their * when they * you

For example Dinar investor real name Jeff for 5 months he kept telling his you tube followers after the completion of the  Iraqi government we will see the rate change it's call revaluation by the way

and he also quoted the 2020 budget it's post rate change money and they need a reinstatement for the 2020 budget because it's reconstruction money etc......

Now all of a sudden because he was wrong about when the education ministry was suppose to be sworn in he's going around repeating the same words of when the revaluation suppose to happen --  he claims it's march 2020 and the completion of the government have nothing to do with it or the reform --

And also he's using my words saying the revaluation suppose to happen before Donald trump become re elected because that's going to boost his re election true but when i quoted that it's because i thought the vote for the re election would of start in Nov 3 ,2019 going into 2020 but the voting start Nov 3 , 2020 going into 2021 re election and also i knew the dems would of use that to try and make him fail

Andrewetoldthem   but instead of him failing they the 1s failing Bernie sanders heart attack  -- Joe Biden scandals --   Elisabeth warren she's proving like shes a liar  -- and the rest by the end of this month --  they all going to give up their campaign run because they cant run enough lol --  so the only thing they was able to do is scream out impeach impeach but they cant get it done -  they cant  get the vote  - they all jokes

Now the proxy position 1 do he know what it means ? And 2 when they do talk about that position they talking about Abdul Mahdi and his ministers because in 2018 when Al Sadr won the election he put Mahdi in his position for 2 reasons

1. They taught he was going to fail just like they taught POTUS would of fail and

2. because Al Sadr it's a religious man politic that's to much headache for him but the fact Mahdi did the opposite of that the only thing those Abadi bloc Maliki bloc Iran bloc could of do it's scream out Resign Resign like the dems doesn't it sounds familiar with POTUS!!!

Why you think so ?but look it back fire on them so instead of pushing for resignation they got acceleration and completion of his cabinet and they the 1's to be resign them corrupted lying * people and also they got providing and succeeding the fruition of the demand for the demonstration

# SMOOTH OPERATOR   # WE WINNING   # THEIR TIME IS UP --  ITS OUR TIME NOW !!!!!

Andrewetoldthem   NOW 3rd    in 2003 After the war in Iraq the government came out and ask for peace and mercy upon them for them to have a chance of reinstated their country and government and thats when they came out with their new currency the 25k 50k 1OK 1K AND the 250 to replace the Saddam Hussein currency  --  George W bush want it to the same thing has his father with the Kuwait dinar by revaluing the Iraqi dinar but didn't understand how it works –

 instead he end up going to war with Iraq while their currency was still in circulation and then Obama came and do the same thing and that's when ISIS take over --  that's why they regret everything and they were to impatient and that's why theirs a documentary about it call the Iraq: A veritable imposture and it came out right after Donald trump became president because they taught they would of been able to expose his plan

but the POTUS its un predictable 16 years later the current government want to take back those higher notes thats in circulation because it would damage their system --  by them to be able to do that they need a reform and A revaluation thats why they call monetary policy reform  -- and thats why they 2 currency will co exist together the 1, the 5 , 20, 50 and 100 with the damage currency right now

Andrewetoldthem   that damage currency its hyperinflation denomination currency  with a time limit after the revaluation if its not currency swap withing the time frame after the revaluation it will be worth nothing right now its worth a time bomb like POTUS TWEETED  --

don't listen to those liars that have no clue what they talking about because its our time now i just want it to address some stuff  -- no hard feeling Jeff we all on the same side –

 We all foreign investors and when this is all over we all going to the top while the rest will still remain at the same spot the liars and the haters might be even worse for them  

 now the million $$$$ question what come next what happen after the completion of the government produce ?  what happen after when PM gets his reshuffle ?

the answer to do that is   --  are we rich yet --  yes because reform restore revalued

Andrewetoldthem   And good morning   no problem and i zig i make sense 2 because its the truth have you being seeing lately

Zig   Andrewetoldthem : Who knows.....I hope you are right.....we'll see eventually.......

Andrewetoldthem   they already got education ministry sworn and the health that was the hardest its coming fast and hot redtober

Andrewetoldthem   Stock Exchange: Tomorrow launched trading on the shares of four banks

Andrewetoldthem   bye got to go love you guys pretty soon this group chat will be so quiet i know when your get rich your will be to busy to be on here will leave it for the haters etc....

Andrewetoldthem   reform revaluation ND RESTORE

Andrewetoldthem   Zig no problem buddy i cant wait to see you have that freedom we desire for sure

Andrewetoldthem   Iraqi Stock Exchange «Economy News»

Market  Economy News – Baghdad   The stock exchange said on Monday that Tuesday’s session will witness the launch of trading on the shares of four banks.

The bourse said in a statement seen by Al-Eqtisadiah that Commercial Bank will launch trading on the shares of the bank as of Tuesday 15/10/2019, and approved the final accounts for 2018, and decided to distribute dividends by 3.8% of the bank’s capital for the year. Himself.

Andrewetoldthem     we deserve it

Andrewetoldthem   http://www.isx-iq.net/isxportal/portal/brokerListContainer.html

Clay   we deserve it?

Andrewetoldthem   Clay us the foreign investor especially the 1s like you clay your waited 10years and plus thats a hella off patient you deserve it

Andrewetoldthem   the 1s that want to retired   etc.....

Andrewetoldthem   now its all over this it for jeff dinar investor he want it to know the step it takes before the revaluation well there it goes @Jeff @Dinar investor

Andrewetoldthem   https://mepc.org/journal/monetaryexchange-rate-strategy-reconstruction-iraq

Clay   sure cant wait anymore

Zig   Andrewetoldthem : Too bad Jeff (Dinar Investor) does not come here any longer.....you two could have an interesting conversation as you seem to have issues with him.....lol.....

Andrewetoldthem   Clay yah got to go have fun learning the strategy and the system knowledge is power at least like that @sparky narcisse and his group of haters could act like they smater then us lool love you guys bye reform restore revalued its coming fast hot and redtober them start trading live with 4 banks its them telling us in a way its over thats why i purposely drop that link on purpose

Zig   Andrewetoldthem : LOL.....Sparky is okay.....just likes to "mess" with you a bit.....

Andrewetoldthem   Zig lol dont worry he sees it and i also post it on his youtube videos but i have no problem with him we all on the same side we all foreign investor and pro success

Clay   Amen to that

Andrewetoldthem   well got to go bye now mahdi going to win big time him albussi POTUS donald j trump and the great leaders now they smooth operating Zig yah if you say so but hes not 1 of us

Andrewetoldthem   got to go we going to the top we going to the top of the mountain its over i cant wait for us to be screaming we rich we made it reform restore revalued i knew the steps thats why i kept quiet but we all do now

Zig   Andrewetoldthem : I think you are wrong about Sparky.......

Andrewetoldthem   bye

Zig   ;peace

Zig   You keep writing "Bye" but have returned for several encores.....LOL

Andrewetoldthem   Zig he call of us idiots before remember and soon he came here he want it your position has a mod even me i didnt do that but if you say so he still not 1 of us when we will be rich and at the bank making our currency swap he still going to be behind his computer talking trash

Andrewetoldthem   now its bye

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IQD CALLS Chat Sunday Night 10-13-19

IQD CALLS Chat Sunday Night 10-13-19

Wilder   This is an old article. Is the iqd still printed in the U. S. U.S. prints Iraqi dinar despite its 'face' value. https://www.baltimoresun.com/bal-te.currency10jul10-story.html

Kaperoni    The dinar it's printed in Europe by De La Rue

Kaperoni   Baxter funny that you say that because I would expect that that could have been done by the gurus or con men for the last several years and nobody would ever know since it hasn't gone up in value

Baxter   Kaperoni so true

Kaperoni   Not to change the subject, but just think there could be people selling bogus dinar for years and there's no way to catch or find them if they just quit and leave. Selling fake currency for real dollars. What a great scam

Zig   Kaperoni : Hmmmmm.....well I used that black light to see that thingy.....lol

Kaperoni   Good plan zig

Kaperoni   Considering how many senior citizens bought into this over the years there is a real window to get scammed

Zig   Can you imagine bringing your Dinar in to exchange and finding out it was counterfeit......

Baxter   No.. I cant

Baxter   dont want to think about it

Kaperoni   I'm sure some will especially if they're die-hard dinar fans and they spent years following this only to get screwed later

Baxter   well.. I must admit.. I have never checked mine....

Wilder   You have me wondering Kaperoni

Kaperoni   Wilder I don't believe in a LOP Wilder I'm just saying that the recent articles from Parliament where they're talking about removing the zeros is a LOP. If you look at other countries for example Iran they just passed a law in their Parliament to remove zeros. That would be the only reason for Parliament to be involved in monetary policy

Kaperoni   And I don't think the CBI has any intent to let Parliament get involved in monetary policy

Zig   Baxter : Wow....get a black light or take it to your gas station and borrow one.....they use them to check for oil leaks......

Zig   Also, some banks have them....

Kaperoni   You can buy those blue light hunting lights at Walmart do the same thing for deer hunters they track blood

John   I understand that the IQD is difficult to counterfeit?

Kaperoni   I can't really prove this other than the fact that I have some friends that are high level in the banking industry. But I find it comical let the guru's keep talking about going to the bank to cash out.

Because people that I know that are in the banks tell me banks are conservative in nature and will probably be last to bringing the dinar into their portfolio of exchangeable currencies because of the risk.

Kaperoni   So I think if the dinar is ever cashed out it'll be cashed out through the same dealers that's sold it or brokerage firms that choose to participate

Zig   Kaperoni : If banks see a chance to profit greatly with the spreads IMO they will jump in.....maybe not at the very beginning but soon after............

Kaperoni   Zig, all you need to do is look at other emerging markets and whether or not Banks deal in them. Most do not because of the risk. But I would assume you're right if the spread is enough they might but then again if the spread is huge who's going to cash out?

Zig   Me....LOL

Kaperoni   And to be honest that's partially why I believe that they will float the currency. Because then brokerage firms can get involved and you can deposit your dinar in dinar denominated accounts and watch it grow over time. Making transactions as needed

Wilder   I kbow of several 5th 3rd employees that invested at the branch i bank at. We don't ever discuss it tho. Doesn't mean anything tho.

Wilder    I'll blame them if i lose my money

Kaperoni   I think it's all ridiculous to even talk about it until the dinar is internationally accepted. Only then well we really know what is available as options to exchange it. And any of the guru nonsense about thing on a list, cashing out of the bank etc is all Bs

Kaperoni   Being on a list...

Zig   Kaperoni : Groups?......remember them??......wonder how many are in those?

Kaperoni   How about the people that bought Trusts? How ridiculous is that not really knowing what's going to happen with the dinar? You can get a trust anytime why buy it years in advance and if it dinar never does anything you just wasted money

Zig   This venture has attracted opportunists taking advantage of many people......

Kaperoni   They were charging $1000 or more for a trust

Kaperoni   Well i got to go. Have a good day.

Zig   Bye....Take it easy.....GO RV!!.....er....I mean FLOAT.....lol....

Whitelions   hummm if you can only cash in where you bought your dinar what are all the people going to if the place you got no longer exists and if the banks arn't going to cash out your dinar how are the countrys of the world going to deal with dinar on a working baises ?Kap is speaking with out thinking or reasurching again.

Doug_W   did U look at that?

Whitelions   Can't

Baxter   I believe that any bank that exchanges foreign currency... IF they want to... will cash this out just like any other recognized international currency.. not all banks exhange foreign currency at all

biff   Errnestee?

Whitelions   Baxter your right or they would be in volition of international banking laws

Baxter   yep..

Baxter   once its international... its like any other foreign currency to exchange

Baxter   getting it international... is the BIG PROBLEM

Whitelions   Baxter I know the biggest problem is 99 % of the people that got into this did it on the word or a quick payout and here we are still here but it will happen and fairly quick now .

Baxter   I pray every day

Whitelions   Baxter there is no going back now to much has and is being done but again to meny people have pumped this now now that it very hard for people to just watch it unfold at the pace it need to take to get it done right .

Baxter   I know they have....

Baxter   https://operationdisclosure1.blogspot.com/2019/10/warnings-from-7-presidents-of-united.html  scroll this down a little and read it....thank you Mr. Trump

Kaperoni   Whitelions has a tendency to make up things and say that I said it. At no time in any of my messages did I ever say that you could only cash in at the place that you bought your currency.

That's the problem people take Liberty at what you say and make it sound like you said it when you didn't and it's not right. If she's going to quote me she should quote me accurately

Kaperoni   I recommend she goes back and reread these posts to find out what we are really talking about

Kaperoni   Reading a document here or there or reading an article a week does not put you in the same category as someone who studied at 12 to 14 hours a day for the past 10 years

Zig   Kaperoni : How do you know that some people haven't done as much research, etc. as you have?? 

Kaperoni   You could call it a beyond an obsession but I have a lot of dinar and I'm not going to invest in something that I don't know every possible thing about

Kaperoni   Zig how does a professor at a college talk to a student and know if they have done their homework or not?

Kaperoni   It's also very frustrating when people want to have a discussion but don't want to contribute. They just want to state things that they believe and want me to prove to them one way or another some fact when it's not my responsibility to do so. If you have a point of view come to the discussion with the facts that you have to support such a point of view

Young_SC   I post a few articles straight from the finance minister of Iraq stating the opposite of your opinions and you shut it down

foxmulder   Kaperoni i also have a lot of dinar !! but i don't claim to have the infinite knowledge and insight you have. because one reads makes not one bit of difference of their opinion

Kaperoni   Young_SC you may have posted an article or two but if I shut it down it's because maybe you misunderstood what the article was saying or there's other facts to support the opposite of what you're saying that happens all the time with people especially when it comes to articles relating to some mythical RV

Young_SC   Kaperoni no kap misunderstood anything it states in plain english what they want to do

Young_SC   READ IT KAP

Young_SC   READ IT

Kaperoni   You see it's easy to read one article and say this article is implying it's going to RV but then you look at the broader picture and you can't justify what needs to occur for such an event to happen that's why I could shut down.

For example an overnight RV could never occur for two major reasons why there's too much dinar in circulation that would have to be reduced significantly and some kind of mythical overnight RV contradicts the principles of the CBI itself and how it makes money

Kaperoni   It also contradicts with the principles of the CBI in its tools to combat inflationary pressure. So again for example there could never be a significant RV because he would take me like taking all of the tools away from the CBI that it needs in order to manage the economy and keep the currency stable

Kaperoni   Central banks are very complicated and they have a tremendous amount of tools at their possession an RV is like just throwing it all out the window

Kaperoni   And lastly do you have any idea of the chaos that would cause and Iraq if all the sudden significantly the currency went up overnight? That is as important as the money supply you just would find out it can't happen

Foxmulder   the discussion of RV and float is a joke ! currencies fluctuate period !

Kaperoni   LOL

Kaperoni   Articles and documents over the years and certainly there are documents that talk about raising the value but I don't think I've ever seen one where they said it would happen overnight. The only people who are talking about something happen overnight are the gurus

Kaperoni   I do hope they raise the value I think that's in the best interest of Iraq but logically it's not possible to happen overnight.

foxmulder   when they decide to make a change in their policy we will see , the issue is international correct ... traded on the Forex just as any other currency and commodity

Kaperoni   foxmulder in some capacity I'm sure that is their intent I don't know if it can go on Forex initially but interbanking is certainly the possibility, the CBI has stated that themselves that they are working towards that but we'll have to wait and see when they accept Article VIII what happens

Foxmulder   Kaperoni correct until that time the bickering and head butting is just nuts !

Kaperoni   Well I'm going to go I just wanted to correct white lions. I was not bickering or head-butting at all tonight I found this conversation very interesting. Good night

foxmulder   Kaperoni as you know there is so many intangables we do not know !

foxmulder   Kaperoni for sure ! every one here is only looking for the truth and an end

Wilder   Truth. What is the truth in this?

foxmulder   Wilder the final result

Wilder   Another old article.

An Interview with John Jagerson (1/25/12) Sam: Would you be willing to debate Kaperoni, Frank Villa, Medic, Breitling … etc. on this?

John:    Yes, in person or in writing. Anytime. He mentions Adam Montana in this article also. https://iraqcurrencywatch.com/an-interview-with-john-jagerson-12512/

WPY   Golly, gee, I guess Kaperoni has LOST his " following " elsewhere, ergo, he's hitting blogs like this one looking for worshipers. Hmmm . . . Still claiming he KNOWS what a country / government he has never seen or experienced HAS to do. Hmmm . . .

WPY   Iraq doesn't know what it will do in the next ten minutes, it's unlikely that Kap knows.

Wilder   Kaperoni seems like an alright guy to me. That link I posted was not because of the names mentioned but Kaperoni and this John Jagerson have similar thoughts on this adventure right or wrong. I can't argue it either way.

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IQD CALLS Chat Early Sunday 10-13-19

IQD CALLS Chat Early Sunday 10-13-19

 JoeSchmoe   sometimes i wonder, after reading xyz a lot, does she really own dinar?

Baxter   i have wondered that myself

JoeSchmoe   does zig?

Baxter   i think so    says he does

JoeSchmoe   okay

spankie   u would think anyone here is holding- waiting

Baxter   yes i would think so

JoeSchmoe   which then brings us to the other questions...sandy most likely does NOT have dinar. So WHY is he even here?

spankie   I think Baxta got the most-

Baxter   no..not i

JoeSchmoe   spankie if willing to setting for a dime....I think so lol

JoeSchmoe   Baxter you gots to have at least 50 mil iqd if you're willing to settle for a dime. 10 mil will get you $1mil....unless that's all you want?

Baxter   no... nothing like that.. i wish

JoeSchmoe   I remember that guy said he was willing to donate 50 mil iqd if something happened, forgot what he said, and this was like 9 years ago

spankie   whale- first tier - lol

JoeSchmoe   there ya go .lol

Young_SC   Does anybody pay attention to SandyF besides Chattels? Lol

Baxter   I sure dont

JoeSchmoe   Young_SC i think chattels just pays attention to what everyone says. Not that he believes them       i think chattels allows for all scenarios to take place

JoeSchmoe   Young_SC I have been in this thing with chattels since bgg first opened his site many many years ago. He has been through that ringer too

JoeSchmoe    Young_SC and since chattels is a lawyer, you can see that mentality in his way of thinking too

Zig   (Reading above as my ears were burning)......I have no  Dinar....Zilch....Nada....Nil....Zero....Bupkis....I just love hanging out in Dinar chat rooms bothering people.... :na;

Young_SC   Zig I find that people get very emotional about the dinar

Zig    Young_SC : Ya think??...

Zig   The most important thing to do in any investment: Leave your emotions out of it/your decisions .....every savvy and successful investor will tell you that......

Larrykn   Good Morning everyone    Iraq’s President, UN Secretary General discuss latest development https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44264/Iraq-s-President-UN-Secretary-General-discuss-latest-development

larrykn   Support: Achieving the demands of the demonstrators needs real will and there must be change in some "dead" ministries

Liberation: 2019/10/13 16:09 • 92 times   Baghdad-In   Al-Hikma MP Hassan Fassad, on Sunday, stressed the need for a ministerial change in some ministries, which he described as "dead", warning of larger demonstrations in the absence of real steps to meet the demands of demonstrators.

"The request of the prime minister to grant him additional powers is surprising, because he has specific and sufficient powers and he has to use them to achieve these demands," he said in a press statement. "What he can achieve, and then he demands additional powers, and parliament is ready to offer anything that contributes to meeting the demands."

"Achieving the demands needs real will and we believe that this will will not be achieved unless there is a ministerial change in some of the dead ministries in our view," he said, adding that "the mass demands are not new, and there were previous demonstrations carrying the same demands, as we demanded.

"We have been wise for a long time with the same demands and we have put the dots on the letters, but we have not found any ears to meet those demands."

"Unfortunately, after more than 200 victims and thousands of injured people, the government today is working to meet the demands, and we regret that the price of rights is the blood of innocent people who have the right to demonstrate and claim their rights," he said.

"The provocation was the reason for the opposite reaction, and we believe that the demonstrations that took place will not be the end, but there will be more than them if there are no real steps to meet the demands and not to settle them as they happened in the past."

"The government should have taken a step ahead of the situation and achieved the demands within its government program rather than responding to mass demonstrations," he said. http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=

larrykn   Al-Araji calls for referring investigations into the killings that occurred during the demonstrations exclusively to the judiciary

Liberation: 2019/10/13 16:03 • 94 times  Baghdad-In  Former Deputy Prime Minister Bahaa al-Araji on Sunday called for investigations into the killings that took place during the demonstrations to the judiciary exclusively.

"If we want results that reveal the facts, investigations into the murders that took place during the demonstrations should be entrusted exclusively to the judiciary," al-Araji said in a tweet.

On Saturday (October 12, 2019), The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, Prime Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi, announced the formation of a high commission of inquiry to reach "objective and firm" conclusions regarding what happened in the demonstration grounds.

It is worth mentioning that the supreme religious authority demanded, on Friday, the "strength" of the government and the judiciary to conduct a credible investigation of everything that happened in the demonstration squares, and to reveal before the public the elements that ordered or started shooting at demonstrators or others, a two-week deadline for that.

http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=84035

larrykn   Turkish Ambassador on Syria Operations: Our goal is to eliminate terrorism and we have an understanding with Iraq

Liberation: 2019/10/13 15:49 • 113 times Baghdad-In  Turkey's ambassador to Iraq, Fatih Yildiz, said the objectives of his country's security operation in Shal, eastern Syria, "are to secure the Turkish border, eliminate all terrorist elements and rid Syrian citizens of the pressures of terrorist organizations."

"We have a common understanding with Iraq in the fight against terrorism," Turkish Ambassador Fateh Yildiz told a press conference in Baghdad.

"Terrorism continues to threaten Turkey from the eastern Euphrates, so we launched operation Euphrates Spring against two terrorist organizations [YPG and the Democratic Union Party] in Syria, which have carried out more than 120 terrorist operations in northeastern Syria and more than 100 against Turkish forces," he said.

"These two organizations have released dozens of terrorists from ISIS militants who are threatening the region and therefore Turkey does not accept the existence of a corridor for terrorists to Arkia and other areas," he said.

"Our proposals for security zones in Syria have not been answered by the Americans," he said.

ISIS militants "Turkey has confronted ISIS in Syria and therefore it is illogical to release ISIS militants," Yildiz said, adding that "in the eastern Euphrates there are a lot of ISIS militants from many foreign countries, and the best solution is to send them back to their countries of origin."

"We are careful not to harm civilians and they do not target them or our allies, and after the elimination of terrorism in those areas, Syrian citizens will be returned to their areas of origin," he said. Syrians to their areas."

"460 terrorists have been eliminated in operation The Euphrates Spring so far, and the operation will continue until the terrorists are eliminated because they carried out terrorist attacks on Turkish territory," he said.

larrykn   "We have been and continue to cooperate with Iraq in the fight against terrorist organizations and we want the Iraqis to understand this operation because they have suffered from the terrorist organization ISIS and we are waiting to stand with us," Yildiz said, adding that most countries refuse to hand over ISIS militants detainees in Syria and Turkey, and this is a problem. "Turkey has received from Iraq the families and children of ISIS after long discussions," he said.

"The military operations carried out by Turkish forces in northern Iraq against THE BCKa are within the UN Anti-Terrorism Charter because they are carrying out military operations against the Turks," he said.

http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=84033

larrykn   have a good day all :)

Dave   just hope this Turkish thing does not spill into Iraq

Baxter   that will be next....always something

Zig   Baxter : Seriously.....will we ever make money from this?.....in your opinion.....

Baxter   im beginning to wonder... i USED to think so

Baxter   hopes are fading

Sam I Am   NEVER GONNA HAPPEN

Zig   ;crying;

Baxter   well I knew you would say that

Baxter   country is too rich to always have a worthless currency

Zig   Baxter : Go get him, Bax.....LOL

Sam I Am   Baxter S. Korea is richer

Sam I Am   Their currency is 1/10 of a penny

Baxter   S Korea is not richer than Iraq...

Baxter   I know their currency is the same value

Sam I Am   Baxter They have the 15th largest economy in the world

Baxter   they do not have the resources Iraq does

Sam I Am   much higher standard of living

Sam I Am   True, they don't have as much oil as Iraq ... they don't  have as much as Venezuela either ... big whoop

Sam I Am   It's a common misconception in dinarland that lots of oil means a high currency valuation       it's about 2 things - money supply and foreign currency resserves ... the rest is just math

Zig   Sam I Am : Why does Kuwait have such a highly valued currency?

Sam I Am   Zig Because their currency hasn't been devoured by hyperinflation

Sam I Am   much lower money supply

Sam I Am   much more stable country

Sam I Am   Iraq also had a currency valued at $3+, but they went through 2 wars and sanctions

Sam I Am   If their history was that of Kuwait they might still be there ... but they put a madman in charge of their country

Sam I Am   He drove the dinar into the ground

Zig   @Francis Albert??.....any replies to Sam's views??.....etc.....weigh in!!

Zig   Francis usually has something to say about stuff like that.....so stay tuned.....

Sam I Am   okie dokie

Baxter   WHEN the United States needs Money... heres what we do: Federal Reserve Watch: 'To Provide Ample Reserve Balances'

OCT. 13, 2019  Summary :  Federal Reserve officials seem to feel that they have just experienced a "wake up" call from the banking system in the modest disturbance that occurred in mid-September.

The Fed reacted well to this disturbance, but now is taking actions to prevent any further "bumps" in the banking system over the next nine months or so.

The "wake up" call seems to have prompted a response on the part of the Fed to err on the side of being safe.rather than sorry.

Federal Reserve officials got a little “shock” in the banking week ending September 18, 2019.

The reserve deposits that the commercial banks hold at Federal Reserve banks, surprisingly dropped below $1.4 trillion.

This surprise caused Fed officials to go into “alert” mode and they responded with a substantial input of repurchase agreements, $75.0 billion to be exact, to "bump up" reserve levels and avoid any possible dislocation in the operations of the commercial banking system.

By the end of the next banking week ending September 25, the Fed oversaw an increase of reserve balances above $1.4 trillion. At the end of the next banking week reserve balances had returned to just below $1.5 trillion,

And, in the banking week, reserve balances ended the week at $1.528 trillion.

Now Fed officials have moved to “shore up” bank liquidity, indicating that the Fed would purchase around $60.0 billion of US Treasury bills every month until some time in the second quarter of 2020.

Baxter   we just write up... re purchase agreements and add more money to the system..and its not there

Baxter   60 billion a month...  how many zeroes is that.... 60,000,000,000 a month

Baxter   and Iraq has a total of about 60 billion..... we write that much a month

Baxter   thats why I dont believe the amount of dinars out there.. has anything to do with this.. NONE

Zig   Baxter : You used to believe that.....recently.....right?

Baxter   I used to a lot... not so much lately

Zig   Hmmmmmm

Baxter   not when you read articles like above

Baxter   I do believe.... this oil credit Idea... may have some credibility

Zig   Baxter : So you have left Camp Kaperoni.....lol

Baxter   No... not really...

Baxter   i JUST dont see a float from 1160

Sam I Am   Gurus were talking about oil credits 9 years ago ... it's BS

Baxter   im not so sure about that

Baxter   especially when they wont be due for over ten years

Zig   Sam I Am : Francis Albert recently brought up "Oil Credits" here again......

Sam I Am   I've heard pretty much all of the guru theories and intel

Zig   We all have...

Baxter   if our govt... can write crazy money of 60 billion a month... it can surely handle oil credits..

Sam I Am   and nothing ever panned out

Baxter   60 billion a month of paper money... which never exists

Baxter   I would just like to know how much dinar is actually in the U. S............. I dont think there is that much

Zig   Baxter : Do you believe all the rumors now and in the past that our treasury holds trillions of Dinar?

Baxter   no

Baxter   billions maybe... not trillions

Baxter    I doubt even billions....

Baxter   a billion is one heck of a lot of money

Sam I Am   Zig That was another BS guru theory ... that the US Govt holds trillions of dinar that they're going to exchange post-RV and pay off the national debt

Sam I Am   That's one reason the BH Group went to prison

Zig   Baxter :Trillions of Dinar....not Dollars

Baxter   No zig... i dont believe it.. maybe a few billion...

Baxter   as far as normal you and me with dinar.. I doubt if there is more than a billion in the U S

Baxter   maybe a couple billion at most

Zig   Sam I Am : Did I ever tell you that I came close to investing in that so-called "Hedge Fund" offered by that guy Rudy and the BH Group??.....lol

Sam I Am   Zig no

Sam I Am   glad you didn't

Zig   Yup....lol

Sam I Am    Zig Zig Do you remember Chuckles?

Zig   Sam I Am : No

Sam I Am   He ran a site called Dinar Dater that I belonged to

Sam I Am   His dad grew up with Brad and Charlie from the BH Group

Sam I Am   Chuckles knew they were idiots

Zig   lol

Zig   Are they still in prison??

Sam I Am   Unfortunately they talked his dad into buying dinar and his dad talked him into it

Sam I Am   I don't think so ... Rudy died

Zig   I know

Sam I Am   The were sentenced 7 years ago so they're probably out now

Zig   Used to listen to all of their calls.....very convincing.....sounded so sincere.....as do most con artists I suppose.....

Zig   Baxter : Did you follow the BH Group??.....calls??

Sam I Am   Zig I have to admit Rudy fooled me ... he was very convincing

Zig   Oh yes....

Sam I Am   He said he was in charge of the foreign currency division of Chase Bank .... DOJ said he worked there 2 days LOL

Zig   LOL

Baxter   zig..no i didn’t

Sam I Am   The feds seem to focus more on the dealers than the gurus

Baxter   they still havent sentenced sterling group

Sam I Am   Zig Well if there's no money trail there they're probably safe

Sam I Am   They all make bank on Kuwait, they all have contacts at the CBI and IMF

Wilder   Baxter Although no regulator knows how many investors hold the dinar, Prof. Bunting estimates "that there are around 40 trillion Dinar in circulation and only about 5 trillion actually reside in Iraq so the rest in held by dinar speculators around the world.Jul 28, 2014

Sam I Am   They all have boots on the ground

Baxter   Wilder not that much in the US...... I dont believe it

Baxter   not with normal people like us

Sam I Am   Frank Bell told me that Sterling doesn't pay commissions to pumpers

Wilder   https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwasik/2014/07/28/the-dinars-dismal-future-sell-now/  

Sam I Am   Technically that was true because they were paying a flat fee to TerryK

Baxter   I seriously doubt that there are two million dinar holders in the U S

Wilder    You would think that all dealers would have to report all sells of the dinar. All om my purchases were from local bank.

Baxter   if there are 2 million......... and each holds ten million.. which I seriously doubt ...that would be what.... 200 million total

Zig   Baxter : Your math is way off....lol

Baxter   what is it   i cant do zeroes

Zig   I think it is in the trillions

Baxter   two billion?

Baxter   no.. its not   well ..wait...maybe it is   LOL

Zig   Baxter : The average Dinar holder probably has less than a million.....lots of small investors.....

Baxter   two million times 100 dinar each.. would be 200 million dinar

Baxter   so a thousand each.. would be two billion dinar

Baxter   correct?

Zig   I bet the average is around 500,000 Dinar or less......

Baxter   a thousand times a thousand is a million...i think

Zig   Most people haven't put thousands of dollars into this IMO.....

Baxter   looks to me if each person had a million.. it would be 200 billion.. if the zeroes are correct

Sam I Am   Zig But there are a lot who bought millions of dinar, like me ... I had over 8 mil

Sam I Am   So the average is probably between half a mil and 1 mil

Baxter   I agree... I doubt most have more than a million

Wilder   I know of several who purchased 10 million and some quite abit more. Some had given up and sold back.

Baxter   lot of people have sold back....

Baxter   or had to sell back

Wilder   I know of several that majority of the congregation bought into this. Several in Cleveland Tennessee Church of God headquarters. Here locally many churches invested . Many invested after Jim Clement prophesied about the iqd.

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IQD CALLS Chat Saturday Night 10-12-19

IQD CALLS Chat Saturday Night 10-12-19

Zig   Kaperoni : Does the IMF have final say?.....or just strong "influence".....

Sergio   The only reason the CBI is following The USA was to take out Isis because they were about to lose their country

Sergio   Influence

Kaperoni   Zig I can only go by the definition of trusteeship. Because that was the word that was used in the agreement

Kaperoni   And subsequently if you look back over the last two years tremendous progress has been made within the banking system including the 2% compliance, the introduction of several banking reforms all things that Iraq seem to not be able to do on their own which were accomplished in very quick order

Zig   One definition I found of trusteeship: "supervisory control"

Sparky   Sergio ...Isis not until 2014, when Maliki created the chaos...after losing pm..

Kaperoni   Sparky keep in mind when oil prices dropped Iraq was unable to meet their budget. And they knew it. So they needed substantial loans to fill the Gap just so that they could pay their people and those loans came with conditions known as stand by agreements. The CBI also signed one at that time as well due to the reforms that were necessary with the banking system

Sergio   Backing troops out put Iraq in danger

Kaperoni    I wish I had more time but Zig had sent me a message telling me to comment so I did but I really have things to do this afternoon so I'm sorry this is an interesting topic but I can't participate anymore today have a good day everyone

Sergio   Kaperoni thanks for the chat

Sergio   As always we wait

Sparky      ...pulling out of Syria, and at the same time sending more troops to the gulf... fascinating...

Crazycrypto   one thing i learned is their is more to life than this dinar

Sparky   ... Israel , Saudi about to take out Iran... while Turks stomp Kurds...

Crazycrypto   some really need to re evaluate their time spent on something we cant control

Zig   Crazycrypto : Right.....it has become too much of an obsession for many people......including myself.....lol

Sparky   Crazycrypto ...go find another hobby if you don't like this one...

Dave   ​Demonstrators in Baghdad and the provinces plan to hold a large demonstration on Friday, 25 October, to continue to demand legitimate rights, fight corruption and hold accountable spoilers.

Issued activists important points for these demonstrations , including

1 - raising images of Imam Hussein , peace be upon him , and the banner of Ya Hussein , being a symbol of the revolution

2. raise the Iraqi flag

3. Each graduate wearing the uniform of his profession

4. Each craftsman wearing the uniform of his craft

5. Our demands raised means media formerly the first of toppling the government

6. There are no leadership for the demonstrations is the leader of the people are the same

7- present the absent knows the date of demonstrations

8. all the provinces in their regions ... and all areas of Baghdad , heading to Tahrir Square on 25/10

9. repeat our demands , we announced the first of previously reported claim the homeland

10. is not allowed for any point of partisan or political revolution ride

11. taking caution and caution and follow Olaimat safety of tear bombs and firing live and other instructions that we've noted previously reported.

http://albaghdadiyagroup.com/news/akhbar-iraq/daoat-ltzahrt-kbert-fe-gmea-almhafzat-eom-algmat-25-tshren-alaol

Dave   thought they gave them 2weeks .........10 days ago......

Dave   they care little about partisan politics...... all about jobs and the get those corruptors........

Francis AlbertI see whee Kaperoni states that oil credits as I have posited could never happen. I see no evidence to support that conjecture. if these alleged credits are in the $30 range, as I believe they may be, Iraq can get oil out of the ground for about $11 a barrel.

Kap will say it cost more, I believe it's this low for Iraq. Kuwait and Saudi oil. Countries "claim" it cost more and then they put $50 in the budget which leaves lots of room to skim dollars, which JP Morgan/NY Mellon skims. This, IMO is where all the stolen money has come from. Plus, all countries lie and cook the books over actual costs.

Sparky   Francis Albert ... to get oil out of ground depends...$2 tops anywhere in Iraq.

Francis Albert   And again, which Kap probably has not seen. Even IF the oil credit scenario is bogus...(and it's possible it is), I don't have secret sources. Even if it is a fantasy.

Bit picture we must understand that the big banks who own the FED, IMF, World Bank, BIS are the ones who initiate these "wars".

Thus, every bank in the FED system can monetize IQD, (create the dollars) because all currencies are debt instruments just like a mortgage or car loan) they can monetize the IQD and have up to 10 years to have Iraq take them back...and/or they can simply destroy the IQD if it serves their interest to have Iraq be stable, w/o revolution etc. and happy people who don't see the magic going on with Invaders slurping up their oil at cheap prices for years and years.

Sparky   Francis Albert ...best , cleanest oil...imo... maybe a little sulfer...still premium grade, for minimal extraction cost...

Francis Albert   I've not seen $2 cost Sparky, where do you get that?

Francis Albert   So, the last two posts, I believe, renders Kap's long time argument that with all the Dinar out there a significant rise in the value is not possible.

Sparky   Francis Albert ... read it years ago,...dudes stepping through oil fields...as always, jmo...

Francis Albert   Remember, Central Banks don't need money. They create it. Their mission is to stay in control, don't expose the light of day to what they do. They often extinguish assets (paper) at their choosing. And, again to Kap's 40 Trillion Notes out there. That may be a close number.

 But, can he tell us who has all these Dinar? No. No one can. But, I think a reasonable answer is Central Banks, which have total discretion if, when and how to use them.

Sparky   Francis Albert ...hope I can accumulate more, 4 this goes down...4x...

Francis Albert    Remember. Their goal was to get to use the U.S. to do the dirty work, in exchange for Dinar to trade for cheap oil and to establish Iraq as a solid base of operations to look after their "National Interests" in the Middle East: Oil, gas, WATER, rare earth minerals and massive amounts of fertile soil. When you have the vision of controlling the entire World...this is what they do.

Sparky   Francis Albert ... excellent post...imo...

Francis Albert   So, if they can help Iraq be International, fat and people happy, it is to their advantage to make the Dinar exchanges work financially for Iraq. In every crime the first question is who benefits?

Sparky   Francis Albert ... except slightly backwards...

Sparky   ...US took over energy producing nations...and also pulled a war, boom, bust economy here in the States...

Sparky   ...ie Middle East...and, we ain't leavin'

Sparky   Francis Albert ...key word water... Francis Albert ...think CBIs can make changes... absolutely...

biff   Big Mass protest on the 19th October New York and around the country. They want trump and pence out. ;secret;

Sparky   biff ... wonder why ?

Sparky   biff took

Sparky...    too greedy...

Sparky   biff ...or just two buffoons... trying to get straight after wards...

Sparky   ... greatest tax relief... turned into more taxes... wtf ?...Wake up...Trump almost destroyed our country...let's not let him finish the job...

Sparky   ... unofficial end of monologue...

Sparky   ...Trump U best me for a thousand...liar, and theif mf...

Sparky   ...in cohorts with rich man, poor man author...

Sparky   ...Kyosaki...?...(sp )...

sandyf   @Dave 1000 dinar for a coke in IRAQ

Around 80 to 100 thousand for a beer in Vietnam. My flight is hand baggage only, no room for the wheelbarrrow, how on earth will I manage.

sandyf   @Dave TWWIII look at the UAE did in a few decades ......from nothing

A large part of the infrastructure in the UAE was built by the British army. I was stationed with the RAF just outside Dubai in 1970, known then as the Trucial Oman States. Before the smell of oil drifted to the USA.

sandyf   @Zig The decimal point is in the wrong place.....error.....

Unlikely - many financial institutions post to 4 significant digits and to get the most accurate information they quote in terms of 1 thousand rather than just 1. There has been many false alarms over the years due to this.

sandyf   @Zig Kaperoni : "Sergio" As some of those who know me on here, know I have spoken to the IMF and was told flat out that the currency rate of any country is in the hands of that counties central Bank"

That is true as far as it goes in respect of currency. What people fail to appreciate is the difference between the currency and the monetary unit. Any change to the monetary unit would require an act of parliament and that would be the case with a redenomination. Introducing another currency with a new ISO code, as opposed to a new series, is a change to the monetary unit.

Matt   Bitcoin BTC Price $8,374.24

Sparky   sandyf ... hello

Sparky   ... Scotsman are famous for having grit...

Sparky   ...also recognize you are a traveler, allowed to see what is not allowed in USA media coverage...

 TWWIII   Sparky On the other side of the coin, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait can pump a barrel of oil for less than $10, on average. Iraq can produce oil for about $10.70 per barrel. https://money.cnn.com/2015/11/24/news/oil-prices-production-costs/index.html

Sparky    ...$8.70 to corruption...$2 out of ground...

TWWIII   In the United States, production costs are $36 a barrel -- still below the trading price.

Sparky   ...ppb...

Sparky   TWWIII ...all oil prices manipulated...as is stock exchange, indexes, and all else... etcetera...

TWWIII   Sparky that goes with out saying yet itz true

Sparky   TWWIII ... Just gotta get lucky, and catch the wave...imo...

TWWIII   Sparky I have hit plenty nice waves in my dayz bk home

TWWIII   b bk in a few, gotta light up

Sparky   TWWIII ... regardless of anyone s opinion,... I like my investment... albeit slow ride...

TWWIII   Sparky yes I too love my entire investments

TWWIII    I have made very good returns in the past buying/selling/trading currencies, silver, gold, coins diamonds etc. So investing in different currencies is nothing to me. Trends is something to really good to follow

TWWIII   **Nothing new to me

TWWIII   gezzz I need to proof read before posting

Sparky   TWWIII ...no, your ok...I understand...

Sparky   TWWIII ... trends...key...

TWWIII   Sparky what part of the country do u live

Sparky   TWWIII ...ne coast... Boston area...

Sparky   TWWIII ... actually, just outside of Boston.... why do you ask ?

Sparky   ... guess I scared chicken...

Sparky   ...anywho... large gas field s just discovered...lol...only half of Iraq ever surveyed...

Sparky   ...the probability of this endeavor losing is very slim... imo...

Sparky   ...at least triple my investment, even with a lop...

Sparky   ...it goes 1:1...oh my gosh...yaughts, hookers, and casinos...be broke in 3 years if I do it right...

Sparky   ... pretty good poker player...fyi...

Sparky   ... that's why I got electric LLC...

biff     Sparky lol

Sparky   biff ...roll with me, we'll have fun for a minute...

Sparky   biff ... or, be conservative, and have boring generational wealth...

Sparky   ...rather have fun now... kids can make their own way ...

Sparky   biff ... what's happening in the big easy ?

biff   ok im back

biff   a nomad

biff   south

Sparky   biff mad no... madman, ...

PM biff   no

PM biff   good man

PM biff   the saint

Sparky   biff ... think I can ever get my money out of Warka ?

Sparky   ... heard seals en route...

Sparky    ... sesquipedalian...

Sparky   ...means talk about talk... circular logic.

Sparky   ...good night now...

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IQD CALLS Chat Early Saturday 10-12-19

IQD CALLS Chat Early Saturday 10-12-19

sandyf   @Kaperoni Egypt flooded their currency about a year-and-a-half ago under the guidance of the IMF and an article yesterday talked about how their GDP in Egypt is up to 6% as foreign investment continues to come in the result will be significant including the appreciation of their currency they are a good example even though they don't have anywhere near the oil Iraq has.

The question is - How long will it take Egypt to recover the 50% it lost overnight?

Egypt has floated its currency in a move that has reduced its value by almost 50% against the dollar.

One US dollar is buying around 14 Egyptian pounds, up from the nine Egyptian pounds the central bank was trying to keep it at.

The country's central bank said the move was one of a list of reforms designed to strengthen confidence in the economy.

Egypt's main stock index jumped by more than 8% on Thursday.

The central bank has also increased interest rates by 3 percentage points to 14.75%.

The move is a key requirement of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), from which Egypt is asking for a $12bn loan over three years. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-37857468

Portmagaland   Sparky I've had my differences with everyone in this room just about, she wasn't my favorite, but I dont agree with censorship. Just like I dont agree with NYC fining people up to 250k for speech. Sounds a lot like how China deals with HK and the NBA, no?

Arrykn   Iraq PM seeks cabinet reshuffle amid calls for resumption of demonstrations https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44254/Iraq-PM-seeks-cabinet-reshuffle-amid-calls-for-resumption-of-demonstrations

larrykn   Mnuchin threatens ‘very significant’ sanctions on Turkey https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44253/Mnuchin-threatens-very-significant-sanctions-on-Turkey

larrykn   MP: Abdul-Mahdi smears his hands with demonstrators' blood, must be replaced https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44251/MP-Abdul-Mahdi-smears-his-hands-with-demonstrators-blood-must-be-replaced

kevin311312   Portmagaland that is because cuomo is a dictator not a governor.

Shiva   On ferates.com/visa/usd  the visa exchange rate of the IQD, VND, IDR, and KRW had change with 000 less. IQD=.8403 VND= .0431 what do you thing about that? fake page??

Zig   Shiva : :Welcome Only place you should check rate of IQD is https://cbi.iq/

Young_SC   Clay Zig That is not a fake page    That is actually legit      Currency rate's

Young_SC   https://ferates.com/visa/usd    Shiva Clay Zig

Baxter   you mean... my dimes came thru??

Zig   The decimal point is in the wrong place.....error.....

Clay   it isnt?     what does .84 come to    Clay1 to 1?

Baxter   more than a dime... LOL

Baxter   its probably an error..

Young_SC   Clay no it's not fake

Clay   Young_SC I understand....just an error

Baxter   Young_SC so how can u bid... .84.... and ask .0008?

Baxter   i dont believe it.. sorry

Young_SC   Baxter ok

Baxter   Young_SC go back to that same chart and look at mastercard... IQD is .0008

Baxter   visa.. is .84......    quite a difference    IMO.. its a misprint

Kaperoni   Shiva zig is right. Any brokerage website that reports on the dinar is not a value at this time because the dinar is pegged to the dollar and is not a floating currency at this time. So what you're seeing when you look at these other sites if the dinar is fluctuating it is because the dollar is fluctuating

Kaperoni   The only website you need to concern yourself with pertaining to the value of the dinar at this time is CBI. IQ

Kaperoni   I guess I'll stop back later and see if anyone wants to chat.

Sparky   Kaperoni ... hi Kap...

Kaperon   iHi Sparky

Zig   Oh...sorry....I misread that post.....lol

Kaperoni   Lol

Sparky   Kaperoni ... I ,for myself, want to thank you for what you bring...

Zig   Kaperoni : You should stick around.....your detractors are out of the room now.....lol

Kaperoni   There's a very good article out today that I retweeted the talks about the new agreement between Iraq and China over oil. There is a significant difference between that agreement and oil at market price and the guru nonsense about oil credits which could never happen

Kaperoni   Sparky thanks Sparky

Sparky   Zig ... always considered Kap's theory legit...

Kaperoni   Zig I had a currency trader stop in over on DA chat room the other night and he was telling me I was right on and that all this other guru RV stuff is such a nonsense. Lol

Zig   Find Kaperoni Tweets at https://www.iqdcalls.com/kaperoni.html along with some float articles just above his recorded calls on the left....

Zig   Kaperoni : As "RayRen" always says: "Time will tell"......lol

Kaperoni   I'm really quite amazed at the progress that Egypt has made the last couple of years following the IMF. If they only had oil the potential for them would be almost as great as Iraq.

Sparky   Zig ... think FrancisAlbert brought in some interesting thoughts also...

Zig   Sparky : Stuff to ponder...

Sparky   Zig ...yup...

Kaperoni   Some people look at Egypt when they floated in how the currency depreciated is being a negative I'm sure it was but they don't have nearly the assets that Iraq has so I don't expect the outcome to be the same

Sparky   Kaperoni ...when Iraq refines all gas flare offs,...will be another bonanza...imo

Zig   Sparky : I keep an open mind as do you.....

Kaperoni   Definitely big business

Kaperoni   My internet friend dr. Bakri from Iraq surface yesterday if anyone happened to see the article he wrote to the government of Iraq? It's very good and of course talks about the urgency to launch the market economy

Sparky   Zig ... I honestly see nothing but blue sky with this endeavor...

Zig   Kaperoni : Why the URGENCY?

Sparky   Kaperoni ... nice...

Kaperoni   Zig, Iraq needs to diversify and create a market economy for many reasons primarily to rebuild and put people to work they just don't have the money to do it on oil alone.

Kaperoni   But there are many other reasons including dependence on oil is not a good idea as it is such a commodity

Sparky   Kaperoni ...if they could only mitigate corruption... market economy could begin... imo... after checking 7 release, and acceptance of Art 8...

Kaperoni   And I thought building a good portion of the market economy expenses into the 2020 budget was a good way to expedite getting this endeavor off the ground. But now with these recent protest I'm reluctant to think that things are going to move forward in the next few months but time will tell

Sparky   Kaperoni ... apparently chaos keeps status quo...but, eventually the corruption will be addressed...and they will prosper as a united country...imo...

Kaperoni   Sparky they are making progress ever so slowly

Sparky   Kaperoni ...yes, but I believe they are making progress...ever so slowly...

Sparky   Tebow ... Kap's theory is a possible positive outcome for us... simply not overnight...

Sergio   Hello    I do not think Kap knows anything about the CBI

Sergio   Even before Husain came back into power the IQD was about 2.80 and all they had was oil

Young_SC   Sparky i already posted articles from the finance minister from Iraq stating thd opposite of what Kap tells you everyday

Sergio   So saying they can’t just use oil to RV is not true.

Sparky   Sergio ..." Heyday of the '70's '... Shabbibi...

Young_SC   Sparky Once you LOP the currency that is a big failure

Sergio   Sparky yup

Young_SC   Iraq is not in the position of a LOP their economy is the opposite

Young_SC   So where is KAP getting his info from?

Young_SC   An economist?

Tebow   Young_SC lops are for countries with failing economies

Young_SC   Tebow Exactly

Sergio   Point 2 the only reason the rate is what it’s at now is because the CBI took a program rate from the IMF

Sparky   Young_SC ... we'll still make $...

Portmagaland   Kap gets his info from the IMF and the IMF is 100% above the table, right?

Tebow   Sergio yes it was change to a program rate, it can be changed back.

Sergio   The IQD was never traded by Banks in its history

Young_SC   Sparky why do you think the citizens are protesting? And you think the GOI will come out and LOP the currency??? I dont mean to be rude but it is common sense knowing that is a huge disaster

Young_SC   Im not sure if you guys understand what a LOP is besides TEBOW AND DAVE

Sparky.   ..no brainer for me... unless things go completely sideways... I'll still only lose what I put in...

Sergio   As for those who think the IMF is controlling the CBI they are flat out wrong

Young_SC   Sparky Kap makes a LOP sound like its a stroll in the park

Sparky   Tebow ... currency supply skyrocketed... not the same...

Sparky   Young_SC ...get this...they could lop, then float...for accounting purposes...

Tebow   Young_SC the 25K note is roughly $26 USD. If they lol it's worth goes to $.026 cents, talk about riots

Young_SC   Tebow lolol

Sergio   As some of those who know me on here, know I have spoken to the IMF and was told flat out that the currency rate of any country is in the hands of that counties central Bank

Young_SC   Sparky no

Young_SC   What are you talking about

Young_SC   That makes no sense what you just stated

Young_SC   LOP currency and then float it back up to a dollar lolol

Young_SC   Come on man really?

Tebow   Sergio yes, IMF only gives adviceice

Sparky   Young_SC ...yup...

Young_SC   My goodness you guys confused

Sergio   All the Krap that these people come up with holds no water

Sparky   Sergio ...IYO, what is our exit strategy ?

Sergio   We hold pat. There is no harm in keeping what we got.

Sergio   Things can change on a dime and as with anything could be for good or bad

Sparky   Sergio ... wise words...

Sergio   I bought in 2011 and still holding pat as you can see I check in here from time to time

Sparky   Sergio ... I accumulate while I wait...

Sergio   Sparky just don’t go to far lol

Sparky   Sergio ... potentially better than Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple... combine...

Sergio   Sparky yes but Amazon was a hard one to swallow when I could got it 10 bucks a share

Sparky   Sergio ...yes...but we are in on this one...

Sergio   I am in it to win it

Sparky   Sergio ...got in in Bitcoin at $60...but lost it in e-coins platform...

Sparky   Sergio ... I value your opinion, and thanks for sharing...

Zig   Kaperoni : "Sergio" As some of those who know me on here, know I have spoken to the IMF and was told flat out that the currency rate of any country is in the hands of that counties central Bank"

Zig  Comment??

Kaperoni   Sergio generally speaking you are correct. But if you go back and read the documents from the last couple of years you will see that in late 2015 the IMF got involved with the CBI with some standby agreements do to Iraq's substantial debt.

As well Iraq was unable to maintain a stable exchange rate and the CBI agreed to give trusteeship to the IMF. So in essence the IMF is controlling the CBI.

And you will see subsequently many accomplishes have been made over the last 2 years as a result including a stable exchange rate within 2%, implementation of many banking mechanisms such as anti-money laundering, etc

Zig   Thanks, Kap.....

Kaperoni   People also need to realize the connection between the IMF the World Bank in the UN. They're all one entity with the UN being the oversight and when countries are members of the UN they agree as part of the charter to follow those subsequent directives.

Zig   I know Sergio....if he says he has spoken to the IMF you can believe him....

Kaperoni   Oh I'm sure he may have and technically he is correct that the IMF in their Article IV Consultations is only giving guidance. But with the agreement in late 2015 for trusteeship things changed with Iraq

Sparky   Zig ...ok, cool...

Kaperoni   It's very easy for these kinds of things to occur when you don't study it every single day and don't read every single document you miss out on a lot and so opinions come into play a lot more than facts. That is why I've told many many people that I read and study this every single day and I find it difficult that anyone knows more about it than I do and that's not an ego thing that's the truth ...who reads more than I do?

Sergio   True in part Kap but it had a lot to do with the The Coalition Provisional Authority

Zig   Sergio : Hey Serg....read my post above?.....I emailed Butter.....she is well....

Kaperoni   Sergio explain

Zig   "The Coalition Provisional Authority".......what is that exactly?

Kaperoni   That's what I want to know. I know what it is but I want to know what Sergio thinks it is or how it relates to what we were talking about?

Sergio   At that time Iraq just got sacked by the US there was really no one to run the country or The CBI. Remember the dictator controlled the CBI at the time. Now that he was gone the US had the controls of everything

Kaperoni   Sergio Sergio that has nothing to do with 2015 when Iraq was in Dire Straits financially as a result of low oil prices and the CBI also having issues with maintaining stability ultimately signing an agreement with the IMF to turn over trusteeship

Sergio   We decided for Iraq what was going to happen to their currency

Kaperoni   You seem to be talking about two different things the CPA was involved in 2003 yes on the transition and the introduction of the Iraqi dinar. But your comments that I responded to we're talkin about the CBI and how the IMF doesn't have any control over them. And my statement simply was in 2015 that changed

Zig   Kaperoni : Does the IMF have final say?.....or just strong "influence".....

Sergio   The only reason the CBI is following The USA was to take out Isis because they were about to lose their country

Sergio   Influence

Kaperoni   Zig I can only go by the definition of trusteeship. Because that was the word that was used in the agreement

Kaperoni   And subsequently if you look back over the last two years tremendous progress has been made within the banking system including the 2% compliance, the introduction of several banking reforms all things that Iraq seem to not be able to do on their own which were accomplished in very quick order

Zig   One definition I found of trusteeship: "supervisory control"

Sparky   Sergio ...Isis not until 2014, when Maliki created the chaos...after losing pm...

Sergio  Kaperoni I am on a I phone and can not see right away what you are posting, plus I am a slow typer

Kaperoni   Sparky keep in mind when oil prices dropped Iraq was unable to meet their budget. And they knew it. So they needed substantial loans to fill the Gap just so that they could pay their people and those loans came with conditions known as stand by agreements. The CBI also signed one at that time as well due to the reforms that were necessary with the banking system

Sergio   Backing troops out put Iraq in danger

Kaperoni   I wish I had more time but Zig had sent me a message telling me to comment so I did but I really have things to do this afternoon so I'm sorry this is an interesting topic but I can't participate anymore today have a good day everyone

Sergio   Kaperoni thanks for the chat    As always we wait

Sparky   Kaperoni ...thanks Kap... enjoy the weekend...

Sparky   Sergio ... thank you for very interesting input...

Sergio   See you can have a opinion disagree and leave it at that.

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IQD CALLS Chat Friday Night 10-11-19 Part 2 of 2

IQD CALLS Chat Friday Night 10-11-19 Part 2 of 2

Kaperoni   In order to shed light on the history Iraqi currency was hired to study integrated worked on writing the responsible engineer Mahmoud Shaker al-Rubaie, who was able to document the history of the dinar in this country since its inception and so far,

which stated: - Talking about the Iraqi currency and a broad and large is linked political circumstances unstable experienced by Iraq, which led to the entry foreign currency of the policy of the occupied country, when Iraq was under Ottoman control,

the (Majidi) is the currency traded in the deal has been named this currency rate to the Sultan Abdul Majeed's father Sultan Abdul Hamid, and parts Majidi is (Alaqچh and righteous ) and continued deal Ottoman Palmgide until the entry Englishmen in 1917 and extract the country from Ottoman control was introduced with the British (Indian Rupee) as an alternative currency in dealing and trading and parts (Anna) and usual that the new currency expel the old currency ..

So ended the trading currency Ottoman having entered wild Indian to the Iraqi market and the reason for making the trading Barabah Indian instead lb English due to most troops English territories are Indians Sikhs and Alkirkh.

Having crystallized when the British idea of ​​a (Kingdom of) in Iraq and became talk about A boys Sharif Hussein to rise this task has happened in 23 / August / 1921 as crowned Faisal Ibn Sharif Hussein king of Iraq must be of this political shift that is reflected at all levels and to find him there in the currency change.

It began pumping Iraqi currency called a new (penny) and this word is out of Byzantine and consists of a small circle of copper in the middle category number and below the word fils and around the circle Kingdom of Iraq and on her right Hijri and to the left Gregorian date other side image of King Faisal I written on it King of Iraq on the right and Faisal I on the left.

Dave   fils toooooo?

 Kaperoni   With the passage of (Iraqi penny) continued (Indian Rupee) trading until the first of October 1932 deal was canceled.

After the issuance of (penny) issued a coin is (two mites) and with the same specifications penny but larger than a little then appeared (pubic), a four fils a reward currency English (brown),

one of the parts pound continued to issue categories in ascending appeared ten fils a copper then Twenty penny called (the Koran) and the dirham and equal to 50 fils after emerged percent fils then two hundred fils and called (Rial) and equivalent (shilling) currency English which is made of sterling silver and a picture of King Faisal I on the one hand and the other three palms engraved on the thick branch of a tree which large size relatively.

and ten years after the coronation of King Faisal I was established Iraq Currency Board in London in 1931 and a law 44 of the same year by which printed paper currency in the sixteenth of March 1932 saw the light first Iraqi dinars bearing an image of King Faisal I on right and the name Kingdom of Iraq at the top and category number in the middle which is written in English and the second in English,

where the company (Dollarroa) British print dinar also been printed in small denominations of paper (quarter and half) in India and began the Iraqi dinar expelled wild Indian, according to the rule referred to even end the deal in October 1932.

Kaperoni     The Iraqi dinar equals 1,000 fils also been printed Order of five dinars and ten dinars and then was put carpaccio% Royal dinars.

Kaperoni   With the development of political events, specifically on 26 / November / 1934 appeared new dinar He holds a picture of King Ghazi has happened after the departure of King Faisal I quickly changed this picture to be replaced by a picture of King Faisal II in late 1939, when the departure of King Ghazi.

Has Council continued the Iraq Currency printing Iraqi currency until the Act No. 43 of 47 and under which was established (National Bank of Iraq), and specifically on the twentieth of July 1947 to adopt Multi printed Iraqi currency and the existence of this bank has been dispensed currency board and its Abolition in 1949, and after several years, specifically in the first of July 1956 a law was passed 72 under which changed its name National Bank of Iraq to (CBI).

has not changed form the Iraqi currency and continued printing until the Republic of Iraq in 1958 and the emergence of leader Abdul Karim Kassem in his time occurred many amendments on the currency notes and coins

It raised the pictures of the three kings of all currencies were replaced (slogan Republican) new and in the eighth of July 1958 and get a lot of variables on a coin as canceled class (Filsin) and added fils to (pubic) to become (five fils) and Hausa popular salutes leader his work is (lived leader who Zaid pubic . fils ..) as well as canceled (the Koran),

a twenty fils replaced (twenty five fils) while retaining Dirhams and percent fils and cancel (Rial) which is equal to 200 fils, the terms of paper currency,

the class percent dinars were canceled and keep the rest of the categories of paper with the addition of symbols Iraqi her like (Palm filling Darbandikhan filling Dukan and Fort Phaenicia and Daura and waterfall entirely on your beacon humpback and Basrah silo and Helicobacter and bull winged and Lion of Babylon and ascend Kut and harp and obelisk of Hammurabi has changed shape currency only a slight change until the revolution of the seventeenth of July 1968 and began to raise the banner

Dave   1000 fils for that coke?

Kaperoni   With the beginning of the eighties of the last century began to appear a coin to replace bank notes small Fezhrt 250 fils compared to quarter dinars and 500 fils, compared to half dinars and 1000 fils against the dinar also issued CBI alloy of gold to the categories (gold dinar and five dinars and ten dinars gold) and sold rate prevailing gold for a short period,

and in the mid-eighties of the last century began (feminine) size paper currency from quarter dinars and end Balashr dinars and more characteristic of this phase is the emergence of the Order of the ten dinars and has a picture of the world the great Hassan Ibn al-Haytham that Ohmt people that this currency is not Iraqi!!

With the deterioration of the political situation and falling exchange rate of the dinar against the dollar proceeded government to print new class bearing the number 25 dinars and on his face the first image of Arabian horses and the other side is for the coin was then put a picture of former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein instead of Arabian horses were printed this category in Russia.

Kaperoni     At second of August 1990 got evolution in Iraqi politics overshadowed the dark on the country in general and the currency, especially by imposing (policy economic blockade) by America and its allies, which led to the disappearance of original currency for each category and the emergence of currency printed locally Bmtaba newspapers and journals which lean and devoid of controls applicable universally. . With advancing years siege increased print size and say the dinar exchange rate against the dollar even arrived in 1995 to 3000 dinars to the dollar, which produced tons of currency printed locally.

That monetary policy is losing its balance due (currency prosthetic) For the purpose of controlling inflation large began printing classes undefined earlier, such as the fifty and one hundred dinars, carrying a picture Unknown Soldier new Baghdad clock hand and a picture of former President Saddam Hussein from th

Kaperoni   After more than thirteen years on the policy of blockade and the advent of the CPA and the occupation of the country by the United States and set the civil governor Paul Bremer, who began amending Iraqi laws as it deems is if adopted the Law on the Central Bank No. 73 of 2004 amended,

which provides for printing Iraqi currency new currency and rely on dinar Republican in terms of shape and change the category to be consistent with what the corresponding currency printed locally if adopted form quarter dinars to become 250 dinars and half becomes 500 dinars dinar becomes 1000 dinars,

 as well as five and ten dinars become five thousand and ten thousand dinars with the introduction of class new (25000) dinars to absorb hyperinflation in cash which are of red dye was also an instrument of coins from class 100 dinars and 50 dinars and 25 dinars,

but has not been activated widely because of the conditions of inflation and price increases have begun replacing the currency from 01/10/2004 until 28/02/2005 and continuing currency trading referred to above to the present day and talk about the intention of the government remove three zeros from the Iraqi dinar to reach levels comparable with the exchange rates of foreign currencies dry Iraqi dinar back to glory and weighs a healthy beautiful green color.

http://www.nahrainnews.net/print.php?artclid=2277

Dave   1000 fils for a coke

biff   I wish Iraq used the Kuwait model with 1/2 and 1/4 dollar notes.

 biff   along with fils

Kaperoni   think that a good article long but good.

Zig   Kaperoni : You are gonna cause an avalanche with all those long posts......lol.......

Dave   would cost 70.00usd to mint enough fils to buy that coke

 Kaperoni   sorry long article. first paragraph key

Dave   Kaperoni expensive coke yeh?

Kaperoni   gotta go

biff   lata Kap

 Zig   Dave : You're like a broken record.....LOL

Zig   Fils.....skip.....Fils....skip.....wheel barrow.....skip.....wheel barrow.....skip.....skip.....

Dave   Zig easiest question one could ever have to answer.....that i Have asked ........1000xs Never gets answered

Young_SC   Kaperoni howcome you never answer Dave's question?

Dave   Young_SC consider the size of those ATMs//

Dave   sorry that I may be very simple.....but some understand my broken record.....wish i could get Kap to answer.....?

Zig   Just kidding, Dave.....keep trying......LOL.....maybe if Kap and you just chatted alone without others you would get an answer.....

Dave   could get into how hyper inflationary it would be with the release of the LDs considering the minting costs with no rate change......

Dave   notes cost 3-5 cent each coins about double

Dave   expensive coke?

Zig   Dave : With no rate change they would not need those coins....nor LDs......right??

Dave   Zig talking 3zeros gone   LDs out

TWWIII  Dave r the LD's out now

TWWIII   Dave yea Dave itz me asking

Dave   havent checked

TWWIII   Zig my friend email today that there r a lot of uSA reserves here in the gulf now, a lot

Baxter   TWWIII you mean troops?

Dave   TWWIII Planning an invasion of Canada?

TWWIII   Baxter Army, navy reserve troupes

Baxter   nuttin in canada we want

TWWIII   They are going thru Kuwait for briefings then being deployed from there to other gulf countries

Baxter   oh..ok

TWWIII   As I have said for yrs here, Kuwait is the key for the IQD

Zig   TWWIII : How so??

TWWIII   Look at Kuwait in 1991 & what they did with their currency

Dave   TWWIII look at the UAE did in a few decades ......from nothing

TWWIII   Yes Dave

Dave   Iraq has soooo much more

Dave   raw minerals gold sulferetc etc agriculture....

TWWIII   More clients coming in the door, today is funding day L8TRS

Zig   On a side note.....The irony is that I actually like XYZ.....and will miss her......lol

Dave   Zig i guess i will have to step it up a notch then when Kap shows

JoeSchmoe   do we have cause to be happy, excited, or down about this thing today?

JoeSchmoe   just stagnant I gues.....

Dave    protests on going........about time?

JoeSchmoe   Dave yea, but mixed emotions around dinarhea about that being good or bad for us

Dave   peeps want jobs and an end to corruption

JoeSchmoe   what will that do for the increase in value tho

JoeSchmoe   unless they are protesting wanting more wheelbarrows?

Dave   Stability.......the polititcians make out like bandits and the peeps get squat

JoeSchmoe   sounds like what we get too

Dave   JoeSchmoe have AC?

Dave   a job?

JoeSchmoe   air conditioning?

JoeSchmoe   oh them

Dave   yes

Dave   reliable electricity

JoeSchmoe   ah well, gues since we aint pumped about dinar today, I'm out

Zig   Dave : Let it go.....lol.....we will know what happens when it happens.....if it happens.....whatever may happen......then we will know who has guessed right...... ;chill

Dave   Zig guessing what?

Zig   Everyone is guessing exactly how this will turn out.....if you know I suggest selling everything you own and buy Dinar......

Dave   Zig got into to this by what CBI had to say...........Not Kap!

Wilder   From 5 years ago. Revaluation of Iraqi Dinar is Not Too Far: Kaperoni. http://www.iraqidinar123.com/revaluation-iraqi-dinar-far-kaperoni/

Crazycrypto   ART OF THE DEAL: President Trump SURPRISE China Trade Deal Phase 1

 Crazycrypto   https://ytcropper.com/cropped/WW5da107158204c

Francis Albert   making predictions is difficult, especially when it involves the future.

Crazycrypto   talks have been near completed about foreign currency exchanges

Crazycrypto   hmmm

Baxter   Crazycrypto thats between china and the U S Im afraid

Crazycrypto   no more manipulation from China?

Wilder   Be careful what you should e er say. Cant hide from Mrs . Google

Crazycrypto   i know that baxter

 Crazycrypto   just thought it was good news

Baxter   I think it is good news

Crazycrypto   also may play into the dong lets hope so

Baxter   could be

Francis Albert   All countries manipulate their currency. Value lowers when more is printed and value is raised when people have more confidence in the currency, which of course, has many factors affecting confidence.

Baxter   I dont know how china gets away with it without going thru the IMF

Crazycrypto   Francis doesnt make it right

Crazycrypto   it seems many got too comfy with corruption

Francis Albert   Baxter..good question. They own their own Central bank unlike U.S.

Crazycrypto   now its coming to an end

Francis Albert   Nothing right or wrong about manipulating currencies. It's all part of the game. All currencies are based on the dollar's price.

Crazycrypto   anyways have a good evening seems deals have been finalized China caved in

Crazycrypto   knew they would  so did Trump

 Francis Albert   China doesn't have debt. They create Yuan when they go short Yuan. The U.S. borrows dollars from the private FED when they need cash.

Francis Albert   FED announced they will be buying 60 Billion of U.S. debt per month, at least through March 2020. Why doesn't anyone ask "Why doesn't the UST just create the dollars rather than borrow them from a private banking cartel and owe interest?"

Zig   Baxter : Kap said he believed it would RV when he first started in this.....before he researched it.....

Baxter   Trump is going to louisiana tonight for a rally.... and the championship little league team for louisiana.... is on Air Force One with him.... can you imagine those kids.... wow

Francis Albert   Well, if it goes on FOREX higher than the present rate, it will IMO trade up to $3.00 range fast. So, it's the same thing..just not as dramatic as a classic RV

Wilder   Francis Albert when? We need to know.

Francis Albert   And I believe that is the scenario we'll see. Could be wrong, but don't think I am

Francis Albert   Wilder. Predicting is difficult when it involves the future

Francis Albert   AT leas most in this room realizes the whole GCR, Republic, Gold backed stuff is non sense.

Francis Albert   The most important thing I believe is work hard, cover your bases, take care of your family and expect the best.

Sparky   Zig ... please tell me Z is not banned for more than a day... I really appreciate her...!

Baxter   wow.. I missed that.... what happened now

sandyf   @Kaperoni Egypt flooded their currency about a year-and-a-half ago under the guidance of the IMF and an article yesterday talked about how their GDP in Egypt is up to 6% as foreign investment continues to come in the result will be significant including the appreciation of their currency they are a good example even though they don't have anywhere near the oil Iraq has.

The question is - How long will it take Egypt to recover the 50% it lost overnight?

Egypt has floated its currency in a move that has reduced its value by almost 50% against the dollar.

One US dollar is buying around 14 Egyptian pounds, up from the nine Egyptian pounds the central bank was trying to keep it at.

The country's central bank said the move was one of a list of reforms designed to strengthen confidence in the economy.

Egypt's main stock index jumped by more than 8% on Thursday.

The central bank has also increased interest rates by 3 percentage points to 14.75%.

The move is a key requirement of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), from which Egypt is asking for a $12bn loan over three years. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-37857468

Portmagaland   New York fines people $250 for saying illegal alien now.

Portmagaland   https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/01/new-york-city-bans-use-illegal-alien-fines-259-k/3836672002/

Portmagaland   People can be fined up to 250k    Wow!

Portmagaland   Tell me we aren't on the slippery slop to 1984

Portmagaland   So, should I buy more currency tomorrow or silver? I'm leaning towards silver.

Sparky   Portmagaland ...yes... IQD...imo...but, I'm just a pumper...

Sparky   Portmagaland . . did you catch FrancisAlbert posts earlier ? ... good stuff...

 Portmagaland   Sparky Thsnks for the feedback, yeah, I've been watching Francis' posts and I like his vibe.

Portmagaland   You see Iran let women go watch soccer for the first time in 40 years? Remember the movie with Bill Murray, What About Bob? Baby steps and Iran just made one.

Portmagaland   Sparky I've had my differences with everyone in this room just about, she wasn't my favorite, but I dont agree with censorship. Just like I dont agree with NYC fining people up to 250k for speech. Sounds a lot like how China deals with HK and the NBA, no?

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IQD CALLS Chat Friday Night 10-11-19 Part 1 of 2

 IQD CALLS Chat Friday Night 10-11-19 Part 1 of 2

 Francis Albert   Baxter, IMO while the Oil Credits may be, and I believe are, an important factor. If they are an illusion, then that leaves no real avenue for U.S. to profit from the war..which was the whole point.

And secondly, you may want to scroll up and look at some postings I did earlier about the banking system in general. All banks can and do monetize debt instruments. (create the dollars), and all currencies are debt instruments. So, if the banks so desired, they can make this work for Iraq with taking up to ten years for Iraq to pony up.

Baxter   I believe the oil credits will go thru our government... maybe after ten years or so

Francis Albert   If they are real, yes, they would end up the UST

Spankie   Bush sr said it will pay for itself

Francis Albert   Politicians say a lot of things LOL

Baxter   yep    for sure

spankie   he meant something

spankie   oil credits would be the only way to recoup losses

Baxter   I agree spankie... about the only way they could ever pay for this

Francis Albert   President Trump has been against the Iraq war quite publicly over the years. But, it will be easy enough for him to say...We've been working with Iraq the past few years to help them get back on their feet, so upping the value of their currency is being done with our help blah blah.

spankie   right now they can sell everything to china but w oil credits---

Francis Albert    Disagree. You all haven't looked at the earlier posts about banking in general, and the Dollar Inc people can pull this off with out blinking an eye and still fulfill their mission.

Francis Albert   IMO the Oil Credits I believe are real, but if they are not...we'll there's always a way

spankie   agreeing w u francis

Francis Albert   thanks, but agreeing with me is not important. What may be valuable is to help others look at the big picture and possibilities. Things are not all black an white talking in a chat room

spankie   well kaps lop makes sense tooo

Francis Albert   Not to me. Who benefits? Not the invaders

spankie    also .00086 to .86 makes more sense     lop does nada

Francis Albert   Right, and remember if they launch at .86 on Forex, a Dinar is still just a Dinar in Iraq and they just adjust prices.

spankie   there is like 195 trillion yuan out there- numbers

Francis Albert   And Iraq will always sell the most important asset, Oil, in dollars. Always

Francis Albert   Wouldn't doubt it. About 30 Trillion Dollars

Francis Albert   sorry...30 Trillion, our best guess, are circling the globe. 95% are digital.

spankie   I think global there is about 250 tril in all currency

spankie   derivitives going to pop the bubble    gotta go  - thx francis

Francis Albert   Spankie, I've never been a crash a holic for the Dollar. Folks have been predicting the end of the Dollar for 50 years. IMO the only way it ends is if they run out of zeros.

Francis Albert   great Spankie..my pleasure

Doug_W   they can have a few from me 00000000000000000000000000

spankie   lol- sorta like all those tracking #s at ups

Doug_W   free too

Francis Albert   Zim had so many zeros they ran out of paper LOL

Zig   Baxter : What is PTR Dan, Gary, and crew saying these days?.....any minute?.....lol

Zig   @Young_SC: I agree with you that most conference calls are a waste of time.....though entertaining......just opinions.....

Baxter   Zig yep... they are really on the oil credit scenario......

Sam I Am   spankie Bush never said the war would pay for itself. That's guru BS

 Kaperoni Hi sam, zig

Sam I Am   Hi Kap

Sam I Am   Where's my pizza?

 Kaperoni   hmm nothing happen yet. so we wait. but today is a good day for a pizza :)

Zig    Kaperoni : Are you sorry that you ever heard about the Dinar??.....lol

Sam I Am   So is there no panic over the protests in Iraq?

Dave   Sam I Am protests good.........

Sam I Am   Dave how so?

Dave   Sam I Am Try listening to DP call.......

Kaperoni   Sam I Am Bush didn't but a member of US Senate Committee did..

Kaperoni   https://www.foreign.senate.gov/hearings/iraq-the-challenging-transition-to-a-civilian-mission

Kaperoni   95 min mark

Dave   Kaperoni now we are splitting hairs....

 Dave   what sanctioned country allowed to sell currency abroad?

Kaperoni   Zig probably lol

Kaperoni   Dave you talking about 13303? I wrote about that in 2013 I break down what it really means. worth reading...

Francis Albert   Kaperoni, in your opinion what would the process look like, work etc. for IQD to post on Forex at a higher rate than they have now?

Kaperoni   Executive Order 13303

Protecting the Development Fund for Iraq and Certain Other Property in Which Iraq Has An Interest

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2003/05/print/20030522-15.html

Part 1...

The first part is the order related to the DFI which must be renewed.

This order is the protection of Iraq’s money (known as the DFI fund) which is where all proceeds go from the sale of Iraqi assets such as petroleum and petroleum products, etc. The purpose of this order then allows the revenue to be used in an orderly reconstruction of Iraq, the restoration and maintenance of peace and security in the country.

This is scheduled to expire May 22nd 2013. Since this would expire, Iraq would have to be in a position to fully manage their financial obligations or fall risk to unresolved creditor and debts.

As an example, the Paris Club debt agreement with many countries totaling 100 billion in debt relief was conditional. In order for the debt to be forgiven, each country negotiated acceptable resolutions and terms with Iraq.

Much of this is known as “benchmarks” that Iraq must achieve to fulfill those obligations, thus granting the debt relief. Those terms were incorporated into the recent IMF Stand by Agreement that expired February 23rd, 2013 (after extension).

 If Iraq failed to meet those “benchmarks” these funds could be at risk and subject to seizure once EO 13303 expires. This part of EO 13303 must be renewed every year until Iraq is self sufficient or risks asset seizure.

Part 2...

The second part of 13303 terminates previous Executive Orders (restrictions)

This part requires no review or extensions. It does not expire, and it would take another Executive Order to reinstate. This is the part that, as a result, gives US citizens the right to invest and do business in Iraq.

This order EO 13303 simply terminates three other orders… Executive Orders 12722, 12724, or 13290 that were already in effect pertaining to Iraq.

biff   Kap I have investments in Iraq ( bank accounts ISX Brokerage Accounts) how this affect me with the 40 trillon in circulation. You seem to have knowledge about this subject. ;c-ball ;$$$

Kaperoni   Part 2...

The second part of 13303 terminates previous Executive Orders (restrictions)

This part requires no review or extensions. It does not expire, and it would take another Executive Order to reinstate. This is the part that, as a result, gives US citizens the right to invest and do business in Iraq.

This order EO 13303 simply terminates three other orders… Executive Orders 12722, 12724, or 13290 that were already in effect pertaining to Iraq.

As a result, investment in the new Iraq is then guaranteed under the Presidential Order 13303 because it removed previous orders which were blocking investment and trade.

13303 in essence, by the termination of these three previous EO’s allows for a restructuring of the banking system in Iraq. And US citizens to invest in Currency, Stocks, Bonds, Real Estate and do Business in Iraq. This was a discrete and indirect way of lifting and canceling previous orders on Iraq giving each of you the right to own the New Iraqi Dinar.

Since Iraq is opening up to the global economy and integrating with the world, there is no need to consider or impose any such future orders limiting or preventing investment.

133303 terminated the following previous three Executive Orders…

Executive Orders 12722 – blocking iraqi government property and prohibiting transactions with iraq

http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Documents/12722.pdf

Executive Orders 12724 – blocking iraqi government property and prohibiting transactions with iraq

http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Documents/12724.pdf

Executive Orders 13290 – Confiscating and Vesting Certain Iraqi Property

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/WCPD-2003-03-24/pdf

 Dave   USA allowed Dinar to be trade-able abroad.....no other ch7 nation allowed to do so?

 Francis Albert   Those EO's memorialize what Countries do when they invade and take their stuff

Sam I Am   Kaperoni I'm not hearing it

Dave   Kaperoni doing research.......

Sam I Am   nothing about the war paying for itself

 Dave   hear air force 1 is loaded with Dinar

Kaperoni   well Sam it is there. Not listened to it in a long time but it there.

Kaperoni   US Senate Committee Video Hearing: Iraq -The Challenging Transition to a Civilian Mission (states cost of war will be paid by Iraq @ 95 min mark)

Baxter   TRUMP and CHINA have just tentatively agreed on a 50 billion dollar trade deal.... on fox news

biff   Hey Kaperoni what happend to the guy on your Ernest ;pizza;

Francis Albert   Kap, in your opinion, what would the scenario look like for investors if IQD goes in FOREX at a higher rate than today?

Sam I Am    95 minutes meaning 1 hr 25 min?

Sam I Am   35

Kaperoni   Francis Albert my belief it would go on at whatever the current rate is and rise from there.

Kaperoni   Sam I Am I assure you it is in there.

Dave   Kaperoni lots of wheel barrows flooding the streets.....

Francis Albert   What if they were to delete the zeros on the echange rate as CBI has said they are going to do?

Kaperoni   Dave what are you talking about? Do you live in the world of nonsense?

Dave   yes your world

Kaperoni    xyz you should now too

Kaperoni   lol

Sam I Am   Kaperoni ahhh ... you're referring do Sen. Menendez (D)

Sam I Am   he wasn't part of the Bush administration

Kaperoni   I just bring the facts from documentation. you can do what you want with it.

Kaperoni   Sam I Am yes

Dave   wallets of wheelbarrows?

Kaperoni   sam i didnt say he was..i said.. US Senate Committee

Dave   easy question.....

Sam I Am   Kaperoni right, but the other guy claimed Bush said that

Francis Albert   KAP...CBI has talked about for years deleting the zeros off of the exchange rate. They could go on FOREX at .86 in that model

Sam I Am   Francis Albert deleting zeros means LOP

Dave   Sam I Am wheel barrows or wallets?

Francis Albert    Not necessarily. Off of the exchange rate and currency are different in my understanding... Could be wrong.

Kaperoni   I choose to think there is a couple different perspectives. One of which is a float and the other is parliament passing a law to LOP.

Dave   Kaperoni wheel barrows or wallets?

Francis Albert   Who would benefit from a LOP KAP?

Kaperoni   Francis Albert If they LOP they reduce the money supply from trillions to billions and make the dinar similar to other world currencies without zeros

Dave   Kaperoni wheel barrows or wallets

Kaperoni   That being said, I think it also could have significant ramifications

Dave   Kaperoni wheel barrows or wallets

Francis Albert   Kap, Say the Dollar Inc. people would lOP the Dollar. Dollars with a zero or two are still currency that has to be honored.

Dave   Kaperoni wheel barrows or wallets?

biff   1.20 kaperoni ;pizza;

Kaperoni   Francis Albert Iraq benefits

Dave   with wheel barrows lots of them? Kaperoni ?

Francis Albert   See above post on Dollar please

Kaperoni   Francis Albert hard to follow with these clowns in here

Dave   1000 of them fils for that coke?

biff   Kaperoni I saw a document print out in 2005 in Kuwait from CBI. The printout had calculated that the Iraq Dinar would be revalued at 1.20.

 Dave   Francis Albert SAME easy question for how many yrs now?????

Francis Albert   Sorry Dave, don't understand

Kaperoni   biff not true. you are miss stating what was really said. I am sure the goal is to get to a dollar but nowhere did it ever say it would get there overnight

Dave   LDs out.....no rate change....with fils .... Francis Albert 1000 Dinar for that Coke?

Dave   Francis Albert oops

biff   750 fil for soda in kuwait

Kaperoni    Alright i got to go. maybe another time. See ya all later.

Sam I Am   biff They use a period where we use a comma. That article probably means a redenomination to 1.2 dinar to the dollar which would be about 86 cents

Zig   It is indeed a problem when some just disrupt.....and others wish to chat......there is a better way to voice objections than to just spoil others' conversation attempts....wait until the conversation stops......

biff   ok Kap

Dave   1000 dinar for a coke in IRAQ

biff   If its a dollar inside of Iraq what will it be outside of Iraq 3.22 Kaperoni.

Dave   Francis Albert easy question?

Kaperoni   He is a great older article but the link don't work no more...

Kaperoni   Reveal the intentions of raising the value of each Iraqi dinars to equal one dollar  ----  Added by two rivers News

A source at the Central Bank of Iraq for four companies currently competing to win a draft print the new Iraqi dinar, which will generate graceful after deleting three zeros from him, while Samay central bank to raise the value of the dinar against the dollar gradually down to the day to start replacement where the value will be in the absence of a fluctuating one Iraqi dinars equivalent to U.S. dollars one.

Kaperoni   The source said the bank and after remarking that blockbuster buy hard currency from the auction, which is supervised by the Central deliberately to sell the dollar worth less than the previous by 3.4 points, with the imposition of conditions buy to prevent the exploitation market meet the demands of neighboring countries,

which suffer from sanctions economic and devaluation of their national currencies, all of this to re-balance the local market, which saw the result of what male fluctuate rapidly in prices dinar,

adding that everyone knows that the central bank succeeded actually raise the value of the dinar is thoughtful and intelligent since 2003 until now that the price of the dollar equivalent to 240 dinars,

but now price tag rose to 1120 per dollar, and this is one of the most important tasks of the central bank, which is responsible for monetary policy in the country, and one of the most important endeavors is to raise the value of the national currency to achieve a higher purchasing power of the Iraqi citizen.

The Central Bank of Iraq announced, yesterday, doing the buying and selling dollar at 1166 dinars during the auction, which is evaluated daily with the participation of 23 banks, after it was sell it and buy it at the price of 1170 dinars to the dollar.

Kaperoni   The deputy governor of the Central Bank of the appearance of Mohammed Saleh in statements to the media », that« the bank to work on raising the prices of the Iraqi dinar against the dollar during its sessions for the sale and purchase of foreign currency by four dinars and by 3.4% to reach to 1166 dinars to the dollar »,

indicating that« dinar nominal is not commensurate with the purchasing power to him or the real price of the exchange rate of the dinar against the dollar.

Saleh added that «the current account of payments Iraq where a large surplus relative to GDP and by 5-8%», stressing that «the surplus is the signal strength and not vice versa as well as the presence of large reserves of the Bank».

Saleh pointed out that «the dollar exchange rates in the Iraqi market which recently experienced a slight increase will be affected by the decision of the Central Bank of Iraq, saying that «the Iraqi dinar will be attractive in the Iraqi market.

The Deputy Governor of the Central Bank of the appearance of Mohammed Saleh earlier this year for efforts to obtain the approvals executive and legislative authority to ask three major categories after deleting three zeros from the Iraqi dinar, pointing out that the process of replacing the currency will take two years.

As Saleh announced in (January 6 2012) from higher reserves the Iraqi Central Bank foreign currency to $ 60 billion, for the first time in the history of Iraq, while stressing its ability to curb inflation if arrived at two places decimal places, considered that current levels do not raise anxiety.

Kaperoni   Noteworthy that the CBI is being daily sessions for the sale and purchase of foreign currencies with the exception of public holidays during which depends on those auctions.

And Zkrmzar Mohammed Saleh, said that the size of the money supply, which will be printed soon consist of 28 30 billion dinars, with calculation of the currency in circulation now reaches more than 32 trillion dinars, and you measure the size of Limbering which dominated the national currency, and the size of the benefits that will befall this project where withdraw monetary inflation and reduce the amount of cash and other.

He revealed that the shape of the new currency would be like a mirror reflecting the history of Iraq and specifications will be even better than printing the dollar, and are impossible with falsified, and will be charged properties technical and aesthetic features of an Iraqi national tells the story of civilization and achievements since the dawn of history, as well as she would Arabic and Kurdish as the constitutional text on This addition to the English language as a global system in place in all countries of the world.

He said the groups would be equal between the metal and paper issued class (25, 50, 75 and 100) dinars metal and there are groups of 5, 10 and 25, 50 and 100 dinars paper.

Dave   Kaperoni So.....wheelbarrows or wallets>?

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Larrykn   Repercussions of Internet interruption .. Losses in millions of dollars a day

Economy , 2019/10/11   Baghdad - Iraq today:  The ICT Platform released a statement on the economic implications of Internet service interruption in Iraq, urging the government to refrain from interrupting it and finding new technology solutions.

The Center said in its statement that the procedures of interrupting the Internet service in Iraq have had negative repercussions on more than one level. ”

Although there are no exact figures for Iraqi economic losses due to Internet interruption, they are estimated to be in the millions of dollars a day according to COST figures.

He pointed out that the Internet in Iraq is negatively affecting many economic and commercial sectors, including the subject of more than three million salaries. K-Card smart cards for their salaries, as well as about 1 million IDPs receiving government subsidies in the same way.

Many remittance companies, travel and tourism companies, and the retail sector, in addition to the damage of the business of small companies and individuals who rely on social media to promote and market their products. LINK

larrykn   Over 60,000 Syrian Kurds Displaced by Turkish Offensive: Monitor

More than 60,000 Syrian Kurdish civilians have escaped their homes during the first 36 hours of a massive cross-border operation by the Turkish army and Ankara-backed ISIS a monitoring group said.

Turkey announced the operation on Wednesday, which aims at wiping out the Syrian Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG) from the border areas.

“Displacement continues from different parts of the eastern Euphrates region due to the Turkish military operation in the area, where the Syrian Observatory monitored the rise of the number of displaced to more than 60 thousand civilians within less than 36 hours, for fear of the Turkish military operation, as Al-Darbasiyah city and Ras Al-Ain city are almost empty of its inhabitants,” the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

“Turkish forces bombed areas around the villages of Zuhairiyah and Jam Sharaf in the countryside of al-Malikiyah. Also, the SDF shot down a reconnaissance aircraft in the skies of “Qasr Deep” in Malikiyah countryside,” the report provided more details. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44247/Over-60-000-Syrian-Kurds-Displaced-by-Turkish-Offensive-Monitor

larrykn   Turkish warplanes begin bombing northeast Syria

Turkish warplanes and artillery have begun shelling Syria’s predominantly Kurdish northeastern town of Serekaniye, Mustafa Bali, the spokesperson of the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), said on Wednesday.

A source in Serekaniye told The Baghdad Post that four warplanes are hovering over the town, and there is heavy artillery shelling the silos near the border.

According to local media, the Turkish warplanes are bombarding Safeh village, located five kilometers on the western outskirts of Serekaniye. It added that Turkish artillery shelled the Mahatta and Malla Darwish main streets in Serekaniye.

Waves of people in Serekaniye began to leave their homes on Wednesday to flee the Turkish shelling. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44224/Turkish-warplanes-begin-bombing-northeast-Syria

larrykn   Halbousi says situations in Iraq 'dangerous'

Parliament Speaker Mohamed al-Halbousi has described the ongoing situations in Iraq as ‘dangerous’, amid protests that swept through the capital Baghdad and other provinces.

During the parliament session, Halbousi said “We are now at the crossroads. Either to be with the people who demand their rights, or stand with our interests.”

The parliament called for freezing the provincial councils and considering the victims of the protests as martyrs. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44221/Halbousi-says-situations-in-Iraq-dangerous

Matt  Dow Jones Industrial Average  INDEXDJX: .DJI  26,947.75 +451.08 (1.70%)^  Oct 11, 11:23 AM EDT ·

Francis Albert   There are more "loose particles" that are ostensibly good arguments why Kap's opinion that 40 Trillion Dinar "out there" make it impossible for any significant up tick in IQD is not a show stopper. The main one is the argument I have posted that oil credits, which are not just guru non sense IMO, will soak up a bunch of Dollars/Dinar. Also 3 zero notes will have a 10 year shelf life and banks can manipulate how quickly they cash in.

Francis Albert   Here's the thing. IMO Banks, all big banks that are owned by the Dollar Inc. Boys where at the top of the food chain to even do this "war" with Iraq. They drive the agenda for most things.

Remember these are the very same that run the IMF, World Bank, BIS and U.N. And the people they meet and sit with are also big players in defense etc. The people who love war.

Francis Albert   So, on the Dinar and outstanding Dinar IMO the big banks want Iraq to succeed because they are in there with bases, protecting their oil and they are salivating over fertile land and water in Iraq.

They will do all they can to keep Iraq peaceful and yes, happy and financially successful. So, since banks just create money, money is not an issue for them. It is about control and protecting Dollar Inc.

Kaperoni   I'm not worried about the dinar that's outside Iraq. Economic advisor Saleh stated many years ago that he wanted the dinar to be held as a hard currency around the world for a very long time.

So I don't think the dinar that's outside Iraq is ever planning to go back it'll end up in central banks. What concerns me is the abundance of dinar that's outside the Iraqi banking system that's still in Iraq, held and mattresses, under couches Etc that is currency the central bank is responsible for and it is in the trillions. Which makes any significant RV impossible.

Francis Albert   Kap may be close to the 40 Trillion outstanding, I don't know..would not be surprised if that's accurate. But, you can't look at something in a vacuum. Who owns the notes? What is their agenda? It is like looking at an organ of the body without looking at the whole person

Francis Albert   Ah...Kap...we finally meet. Hello Sir. Ah, I hear you. So, you are saying they could be Trillions upon trillions in Iraq stashed?

Kaperoni   Not to mention an RV is Guru speak it's not how central banks do business and it's not monetary policy. It circumvents all of the tools that central banks use to control the stability of the financial system and would send the entire Financial system into chaos if any kind of significant RV occurred.

The IMF is very clear on floating currency as a tool to offset pressure created by significant investment. Egypt flooded their currency about a year-and-a-half ago under the guidance of the IMF and an article yesterday talked about how their GDP in Egypt is up to 6% as foreign investment continues to come in the result will be significant including the appreciation of their currency they are a good example even though they don't have anywhere near the oil Iraq has

Kaperoni   I posted an article in here a couple of days ago that specifically had the numbers from the Central Bank of Iraq in excessive 40 trillion outside the banking system I don't know how much of that is in Iraq versus outside of Iraq but it clearly states it's outside the banking system

Francis Albert   Agree, the idea of a bump from .00086 to $3.50 is not going to happen, because of what you just said. Have they not been sucking as many 000 notes out the last five years inside iraq? How can we conjecture that there's "too" many? We just don't know

Francis Albert   Agree. and 40 Trillion is a reasonable number at the current value

Kaperoni   Unfortunately this is just kind of a drive-by visit cuz I've got things to do but I'll try to come back later. The most important thing is that a significant RV is not only not possible oh, it's just not what central banks do because it contradicts the tools that they use control inflationary pressure.

Not to mention commissions Etc by buying and selling. Iraq is clearly working towards having an fx Market oh, there's been several articles in recent months about the progress being made that in itself should tell everyone that there won't be any significant RV.

Francis Albert   So, what if the delete zeros on the exchange rate to say .87 and let traders trade it up from there?

Baxter   I would not rule out the idea of oil credits either....especially since what went on with CHina just yesterday... these so called oil credits..are not immediate payment.. these oil credits will not be due for at least ten years.. maybe even up to 20...

Kaperoni   Take care. Ill come back later

Francis Albert   Yes Sir..indeed. To be continued....

Francis Albert   Well, and that adds to my argument that these Countries will in some way make it doable for Iraq to deal with some increase. What's the point of bankrupting them?

Francis Albert   It is possible that inside Iraq they will make up their own rules on cashing out 25,000 IQD notes. They have to have a workable plan for doing all the things they've done the past few years, all the announcements about the changes coming. They have a plan that will work for them.

Francis Albert   Central Banks and governments make up new rule all the time. in 1933, Roosevelt says give me your gold ..it's against the law to own gold. We'll give you $20 in paper notes for your gold.

And at the same time people outside the Country cold exchange dollars for gold, up until Nixon closed the gold window in 1971

Francis Albert   People brought in their gold, got $20 in paper. And some months later, they raised the price of gold to $35. Priceless.

Doug_W   @Baxter what a great day here mid 80's light breeze NO humid full sun

biff   Kap I have investments in Iraq ( bank accounts ISX Brokerage Accounts) how this affect me with the 40 trillon in circulation. You seem to have knowledge about this subject. ;c-ball ;$$$

Zig   @Sam: Hi....any comments about above discussion??

Sam I Am    Zig Hi. As you might imagine I disagree with Kap

Sam I Am   and most everybody else here

Zig   Sam I Am : What about what Francis Albert posted??

Zig   Oil Credits??

Sam I Am   Zig Including PA

Zig   Francis Albert : Sam I Am is a well-known person in the Dinar Community who does not think this is a worthwhile venture......

Sam I Am   The idea of revaluing to 85 cents is slightly less absurd than revaluing to $3

biff   xyz I hope so

Sam I Am   it's like saying you can flap your arms and fly to the moon as opposed to flapping your arms and flying to Mars

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sandyf   Back in the early day many were optimistic about possibility of The IQD gaining value through reconstruction in Iraq. Even incompetence from the US administration and the death of the UN envoy Sergio Vieira de Mello did little to dampen the optimism and the years went by with only some small increase.

About 2009/10 along came the modern day gurus like Terryk and dinarland moved to fantasyland with talk of 3 dollars plus and the GCR. People should reflect on the timing of this, shortly after the financial crisis of 2008.

It is not out of the question that the financial crisis gave birth to a plan to restructure the global financial situation. Should such a plan exist it could be that over the years misinformation has been allowed into the pubic domain to satisfy a particular agenda.

I find it a bit strange that more aggressive steps have not been taken to shut down the speculation if it was doomed to failure in its entirety.

There may well be some return on the Iraqi dinar but one thing is for sure, it is not going to come from anything that Iraq does. The three zeros project is a redenomination and nothing more than a distraction in the bigger picture.

Clay   amazing how after all Iraq has been through they treat their people so poorly

Clay   https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/10/10/exclusive-iraqi-human-rights-official-protesters-have-watched-elite-get-rich-while-drinking-toxic-wate/

Clay   why the protests

Doug_W   thus rioting in the streets

Clay   cant blame them

Doug_W   not 1 bit

Xyz   Parliament votes on Suha Khalil as Minister of Education http://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=791736

xyz   WoW impeached

Xyz   10-10-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni Article: "Finance Committee in the Iraqi Council of Representatives announced on Monday (19-August-2019) the government direction to reinstate the currency and delete zeros from paper currency in order to strengthen the national economy" You better hope that doesn't happen because they're talking about a lop it's clear as day..."I want to remove the zeros off the paper"...meaning lop them

Xyz   ZIM update for GCR nutters ....

The Return Of Hyperinflation In Zimbabwe https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/return-hyperinflation-zimbabwe

xyz   Donald to take down the Republican Party and the Clinton dynasty to destroy the Democratic Party. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/will-clintons-destroy-democratic-party

Larrykn   Repercussions of Internet interruption .. Losses in millions of dollars a day

Economy , 2019/10/11   Baghdad - Iraq today:  The ICT Platform released a statement on the economic implications of Internet service interruption in Iraq, urging the government to refrain from interrupting it and finding new technology solutions.

The Center said in its statement that the procedures of interrupting the Internet service in Iraq have had negative repercussions on more than one level. ”

Although there are no exact figures for Iraqi economic losses due to Internet interruption, they are estimated to be in the millions of dollars a day according to COST figures.

He pointed out that the Internet in Iraq is negatively affecting many economic and commercial sectors, including the subject of more than three million salaries. K-Card smart cards for their salaries, as well as about 1 million IDPs receiving government subsidies in the same way.

Many remittance companies, travel and tourism companies, and the retail sector, in addition to the damage of the business of small companies and individuals who rely on social media to promote and market their products.

LINK

larrykn   Over 60,000 Syrian Kurds Displaced by Turkish Offensive: Monitor

More than 60,000 Syrian Kurdish civilians have escaped their homes during the first 36 hours of a massive cross-border operation by the Turkish army and Ankara-backed ISIS a monitoring group said.

Turkey announced the operation on Wednesday, which aims at wiping out the Syrian Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG) from the border areas.

“Displacement continues from different parts of the eastern Euphrates region due to the Turkish military operation in the area, where the Syrian Observatory monitored the rise of the number of displaced to more than 60 thousand civilians within less than 36 hours, for fear of the Turkish military operation, as Al-Darbasiyah city and Ras Al-Ain city are almost empty of its inhabitants,” the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

“Turkish forces bombed areas around the villages of Zuhairiyah and Jam Sharaf in the countryside of al-Malikiyah. Also, the SDF shot down a reconnaissance aircraft in the skies of “Qasr Deep” in Malikiyah countryside,” the report provided more details. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44247/Over-60-000-Syrian-Kurds-Displaced-by-Turkish-Offensive-Monitor

larrykn   Turkish warplanes begin bombing northeast Syria

Turkish warplanes and artillery have begun shelling Syria’s predominantly Kurdish northeastern town of Serekaniye, Mustafa Bali, the spokesperson of the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), said on Wednesday.

A source in Serekaniye told The Baghdad Post that four warplanes are hovering over the town, and there is heavy artillery shelling the silos near the border.

According to local media, the Turkish warplanes are bombarding Safeh village, located five kilometers on the western outskirts of Serekaniye. It added that Turkish artillery shelled the Mahatta and Malla Darwish main streets in Serekaniye.

Waves of people in Serekaniye began to leave their homes on Wednesday to flee the Turkish shelling. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44224/Turkish-warplanes-begin-bombing-northeast-Syria

larrykn   Halbousi says situations in Iraq 'dangerous'

Parliament Speaker Mohamed al-Halbousi has described the ongoing situations in Iraq as ‘dangerous’, amid protests that swept through the capital Baghdad and other provinces.

During the parliament session, Halbousi said “We are now at the crossroads. Either to be with the people who demand their rights, or stand with our interests.”

The parliament called for freezing the provincial councils and considering the victims of the protests as martyrs. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44221/Halbousi-says-situations-in-Iraq-dangerous

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Chattels   Abdul Mahdi announces a reshuffle and the date of submission of the names of special grades and positions

Release date:: 9/10/2019 21:56 https://alforatnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=214444

chattels   The date of submission of the names of special grades and positions appears to be the last week of this month as best I can determine form reading the foregoing article.

chattels   " ................ we will give before the twenty - fourth of the month , our listings to end grades ......."

chattels   Abdul-Mahdi: We will issue a list of the top corrupt in the coming hours https://www.almirbad.com/detail.aspx?Jimare=27818&fbclid=IwAR2Vd-EFCSoBFAkgnl2SmRME6MoAdpLNODTb3aHQIDoJqe647ooaIOW1IPU

chattels   Hopefully the phrase " coming hours " bespeaks a time sooner than " coming days ".

chattels   " Coming days " is now several years time.

chattels   Protest investigation, job and housing reform tabled in emergency govt meeting: Iraq PM

 https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/10102019

chattels   Iraqi PM Abdel-Mahdi: tomorrow, Parliament will vote on making ministerial changes, amending the constitution, & changing election laws. We want to make real reform. 10/9/2019 AM 11:34:05 a.m. http://mobp.as/zBoVp

chattels   "There will be a vote on Thursday on cabinet reshuffles," he said

chattels   Today, Thursday is the tomorrow according to Abdul-Mahdi. We shall see what Parliament does.

Chattels   Joel Wing @JoelWing2   As soon as protests ended IS went back to work They've done this during previous demonstration periods    https://twitter.com/JoelWing2

chattels   Joel Wing @JoelWing2

PM Abdul Mahdi's speech: I never told anyone to shoot the protesters but now that approx 165 are dead I'll give you a few days to mourn while I talk about reforms that won't change anything https://twitter.com/JoelWing2

chattels   Does Parliament have a quorum today ?

chattels   Alliance / others: committed to boycott the sessions of parliament so far

Thursday 10 October 13:38 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=791677

chattels   If there is a quorum it is difficult to vote on a " ghost cabinet."

House of Representatives: resumes of candidates for the reshuffle have not yet arrived

Thursday 10 October 14:16 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=791685

Doug_W   Dinar Perspective Roundtable Pre-Recorded Call w/ Pat, Mark, and Bobby Replay  https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com/wall/recorded_audio?audioRecordingUrl=https%3A%2F%2Frs0002.freeconferencecall.com%2Fstorage%2FsgetHD%2FD9RMW%2Fnxvt

chattels   Scratch two. BAGHDAD / NINA / Al-Nasr bloc said that the ministers of transport and electricity are likely to be excluded from the new cabinet reshuffle that Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi intends to make, and that they will be replaced later by two new candidates.

https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=791681

chattels   BAGHDAD / NINA / A parliamentary source revealed: "A ministerial reshuffle will soon include the ministries of agriculture, industry, health, transport and communications." https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=791657

chattels   The central bank sells more than $ 114 million at a currency auction

Thursday 10 October 13:26 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=791670

chattels   Considerably less volume than recent weeks. Whatever such may mean, if anything.

Chattels   Iraq, China launch 'oil for reconstruction' agreement   Salam Zidane October 10, 2019

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-china-india-oil-construction.html#ixzz61wxI25rv

chattels   When Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi led a delegation to China in September, Baghdad and Beijing activated an "oil for reconstruction" and investment program. Under the arrangement, Chinese firms work in Iraq in exchange for 100,000 barrels per day.

Iraq has said it needs more than $88 billion to develop and mend its rickety infrastructure after three years of combating the Islamic State (IS).

Speaking to the press, Abdul Mahdi said that, including this new deal, about 20% of Iraq’s daily oil production is being exported to China.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-china-india-oil-construction.html#ixzz61wxnpgoe

xyz   What IF the reshuffle auction with RV!

chattels   Perhaps Iraq can avoid the OPEC limitations / quota through the foregoing deal ?

chattels   Certainly is a different means of monetizing oil or bartering oil for desperately needed services that Iraq cannot arguably otherwise afford.

Doug_W   its time 4 Iraq to put on it's "big boy" pants and step OUT

chattels   The foregoing would appear to contradict the following post from Kaperoni. 10-8-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni Oil credits and reduced prices for oil is all... nonsense...Iraq could never sell oil in exchange at a reduced price...because the budget is 90% dependent on Iraq's oil exports.

Doug_W   chattels its crazy what all is out there I sure wish we knew the truth

chattels   Doug_W Ain't dat da truth ! :)

chattels   And that's way that it is from the news that I read out of Iraq on this Thursday, October 10, 2019. Have a fine day all.

Clay   cant believe Trump pulled troops out of Syria

Clay   hes lost his freakin mind

Baxter   yep.. he did

Clay   the Kurds are gonna get slaughtered

Clay   and 11,000 ISIS fighters are gonna escape

Baxter   thats the bad part   they ought to just shoot them

Clay   coming here and Europe you bet

Clay   I would

Clay   why fight them again

Baxter   i know

Clay   and Turkey OMG

Clay   big deal Trump will impose sanctions

Baxter   we should have never gone into the Middle east anyways... you cant fight stupidity

Andrewetoldthem   They wondering why Donald J Trump withdraw the troops from Syria Iraq and Etc....

Few Words:    ARE YOU READY 4 THE RV!!!!!.............

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump....IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY! We went to war under a false & now disproven premise, WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. There were NONE! Now we are slowly & carefully bringing our great soldiers & military home. Our focus is on the BIG PICTURE! THE USA IS GREATER THAN EVER BEFORE!

Andrewetoldthem   REFORM  RESTORE   REVALUED  TRIPLE R"S........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZooukaRJPI   

Zig   biff : Are you looking for trouble??.....lol..... ;oh;

Andrewetoldthem   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZooukaRJPI   

Andrewetoldthem   Spirituality Reform    Restore   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlmorl1Kg3o   

Andrewetoldthem   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlmorl1Kg3o   

ARE WE READY FOR THIS REVALUATION (RV)!!!.......

# I GOT RICH ON THAT COUCH

Government of Iraq - الحكومة العراقية@IraqiGovtOther measures announced by @AdilAbdAlMahdi include:- Expediting the allocation of plots of land, free of charge, to low income groups - Instituting economic, social and public service reforms - Submitting a proposal to Parliament to reform the electoral system 

Andrewetoldthem   good morning i see dinar investor love frank 26 always got something to say about him

Zig   @Sam: Hi.....so, how 'bout that "Oil Credits" scenario?.....we have heard that before......

Andrewetoldthem   Clay thats why the troops are with drawing got the media going crazy again saying trump did just like obama trump bAD trump this but they dont know half of the story we do

biff   Zig no Zig I used to go to his site. I almost signed up for the alert service for revaluation but I did not. Seem to be a good guy. ;sip

Andrewetoldthem   Clay this video tells you the R.V. only suppose to take 2 years or 2 years in the half not more why you think since after the demonstration and the protest all youve been hearing about is reform

Andrewetoldthem   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZooukaRJPI

Andrewetoldthem   this video explain it all

Andrewetoldthem   the time is now and its coming from the old president of the central bank of iraq 2

Andrewetoldthem   everything is scripture couldn't tell you all until it was time 2

Andrewetoldthem   everything is plan and i came and say it at the right time and when the troops are withdrawing to explain why

Andrewetoldthem   i post my last 5 post before the R.V. ITS COMING FAST AND HOT THEY CALL IT RED OCTOBER

REMEMBER KUWAIT HAD REVALUED THEIR DINAR BKUZ OF THE WAR THEN NOW WE SEEKING 4 PEACE AND ITS POWER 2 GOD POWER 2 US AND POWER 2 HIS PEOPLE THEY NEED IT A REASON 2 SPEED FAST

and they got it and a day after i told you when the protest will stop and the riots trump tweet withdrawing the troops and the media went crazy on his decision

Zig   Can't wait to be rich....it's coming according to Andre.....Yeah!!...... 'happy-dance

Andrewetoldthem   Zig lol got to go not according to me according to god and the prophecy according to the great leaders and donald j trump All i did was give you the facts with proof bye now see your on the other side WE WILL RISE REFORM REVALUED RESTORE

Zig   Andrewetoldthem : Bye....we hope you are right.....eventually someone will be right.....lol.....

Clay   yep

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IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Night 10-9-19

IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Night 10-9-19

Wilder   mod what are your thoughts on this? Surely you have sone opinions on this matter.

mod   Wilder Anytthing is possible but not making it my plan A

Wilder   Well that sure helped

mod   It is always good to be diversified

Wilder   Yep

mod   I bought m first IQD in 2004 and did not look at it for years

Wilder   About the same here.

Mod   It's all speculation but at one time IQD was over $3 so that is what made some sense to me yrs back. I don't like vegas type gambling but did this.

Mod   Zig LIke I always say anything is possible

Francis Albert   Sounds like Kap was having a tussle here. Sorry I missed him. KIds, no need to get snarky about this stuff, we are just exchanging ideas. From the cheap seats in the bleachers it is clear that many who have been hanging on the "any day" for years, have a hard time even listening to contrarian ideas.

I believe that Iraq is certainly going to do something significant with their currency. Any one including Kap, who doubts that, simply is not, or doesn't want to pay attention.

Zig   Francis Albert : Kap adds life to this room!!!.....LOL

Francis Albert   I know...life is good

Francis Albert   Now how it is all going to play out is up for fun talk

Francis Albert   One of my key arguments of why I believe the banks/FED will monetize, (create dollars) for IQD is that is how UST will end up with them and exchange for cheap oil. Which, IMO, was and is the whole point of the invasion of Iraq. What's the point of invading if you don't take their stuff?

Xyz   Zig he keep fighting me with 40 trillion --- and i do have numbers that don't agree with his. I could be wrong but hey ... this is a speculation --- Z is speculating that DOW is gonna be down tomorrow

Francis Albert   What is his theories on float...could be lots of variances here?

Zig   Francis Albert : Hopefully you and Kaperoni will be in the chat at the same time eventually to have a real time talk.......

Francis Albert   I don't think the money supply matters in the whole scheme of things. USD has about, we can only conjecture, but I think this is close...30 Trillion floating around the World. So 40 Trillion Dinar at .00086 doesn't sound like ridiculous number.

xyz   Francis Albert float by kaperoni definition --- gradual increase over time

Z claims that time factor is the key. Assuming that time is LESS than a day, then Z call it RV but Kaperoni that I am crazy and outta of my mind

mod   I never bought reserves and only boought outright what I could afford to loose and did not get greedy with it

Zig   mod : Same with me....

Wilder   Francis Albert but if you take that at 3 to 1 then where are you wuth that?

Baxter   Answer me this... there is about 2.7 trillion USD in the world... and the U S is over 22 Trillion in debt that we know of... so how could the USD be worth what it is now... if the money supply mattered

xyz   mod Am a pure dinarian jejeje ...... did lots of those NAKED reserves and lost a lot. I enjoyed it though and I was always looking forward to the hour before it EXPIRED hahaha

Francis Albert   Well, if it goes on Forex at any rate from .10 to .87 ( I think it will be .87) then it gets traded up from there by buyers and sellers.

xyz   Used to stand by the window waiting for the FEDex haha

Francis Albert   XYZ....Sir, you are way off at 2.7 Trillion. It is more like 30 Trillion. Just trust me on this. We don't know exact numbers as the discontinued publishing M1, M2 and L etc. about twenty years ago. Yet smart people, like mentor stayed on top of it.

Zig   Francis Albert : Was Baxter, not Z

Baxter   thats even worse

xyz   Francis Albert check some of unusual stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiCv6KTJs50

Francis Albert   U.S. has 22 Trillion in bonded debt. Money owed to investors in Treasures. From China to Ireland, private parties, pension funds, hedge funds, mom and pop, and The FED has a pile, the FED's books are open and you can see how much U.S. debt they hold.

xyz   Francis Albert OMG I never claimed 2.7 trillion -- that's a lie

Francis Albert   Sorry, mis read...Baxter stated 2.7 T my apologies

Baxter   I thought I read thats what it was

Francis Albert   Ah..no worries Baxter...lots of numbers, not a big deal, just thought I would correct so some kind of reliable info gets posted here.

xyz   Baxter someone has to loose

Baxter   not this bad

xyz  Or a repeat is demanded

Wilder   Francis Albert atleast you are positive about this. No ridiculous numbers either way. Thanks for your input

Francis Albert   But, Baxter to your point of money supply and debt. The total debt of U.S. is about 40 trillion. Not a made up number....unfunded liabilities, all sorts of stuff. And the debt of the world in dollars far, far out weighs the dollars in circulation...that keeps its value up.

xyz   @Tebow 10-9-2019 Intel/Newshound Gurus Frank26 & Walkingstick ...Notice there has been no effect on the Iraqi dinar exchange rate due to the protesting. Not one pip movement of the Iraqi dinar exchange rate. Because it is not unstable. It is not off track. It is a process moving forward and I'm excited about Monday [October 14th].

Wilder   How much U.S. currency is in circulation?

There was approximately $1.70 trillion in circulation as of January 31, 2019. This figure includes Federal Reserve notes ($1,655.2 billion), U.S. notes ($0.2 billion), currency no longer issued ($0.2 billion), and coins outstanding ($47.2 billion). https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12773.htm

Baxter    Wilder thats less than I thought... thx... thought it was 2.7... well at least its not 22 trillion

Wilder   However. Put debt with that figure. What's rhe difference. Other than not a physical trade out

Francis Albert   Right...I saw that. 1.7 Trillion in paper currency. about 95% of dollars are digital.

Wilder    Francis Albert I agree

Xyz   Francis Albert How much U.S. currency is in circulation?

There was approximately $1.70 trillion in circulation as of January 31, 2019. This figure includes Federal Reserve notes ($1,655.2 billion), U.S. notes ($0.2 billion), currency no longer issued ($0.2 billion), and coins outstanding ($47.2 billion). https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12773.htm

Francis Albert   So, if you want some homework. Do the math on what 1.7 Trillion is 5% of what number and that will give you a close count of total dollars in circulation. The 5% in paper is about the World's average of paper to digital.

Francis Albert   Xyz...best estimate about 30 Trillion

Wilder   Just go to iraq and marry one of them and cash out.

Sparky   ...bet Kurds are ** their pants...

Sparky   ...best make up with central government... else...they cash their ticket...imo...

Wilder   It's a ness over there . always has been.

Sparky   Wilder ...like herding cats...

Sparky   Wilder ... I personally like Israeli play now...with Suadi... eradicate the head of the snake...

Sparky   ...Turks about to run over Kurds...if they play their cards wrong...imo...

Wilder   Still won't change. We know hiw it's going to end. Just kicking the can till it crushes.

Sparky   Wilder ...lots of pressure on Iran...

Sparky   Wilder ... now we put pressure on Kurdistan...to smarten up...and play nice..

Sparky   Wilder ...idle threat by Trump...imo...

Sparky   Wilder ... militarily sound location...we don't leave... building more bases...

Wilder   Thought we were pulling out

Sparky   Wilder ...idle threat...imo...he would make to be more stupid, than even I give him credit...

Sparky   *have

Wilder   Brb. Plbg call

Zig   I sent a message to the owner (Brandon) of Dinar Alert where Kaperoni posts............here is his reply: "I have taken over the website about a year-and-a-half ago for my father who passed away... He started the website 10 years ago... Not interested in any other sites but this is my website now... Kaperoni is a mod here only." "Brandon"

Sparky   ...Iraq finally figuring out they can make more from gas...?... instead of flaring...

Sparky   Zig ... thanks Zig...not news to me...but, nice clarification...

Sparky   ...Kap makes zero dollars from DA...imo...

Whitelions   Abdul Mahdi announces a reshuffle and the date of submission of the names of special grades and positions http://www.theiqdteam.com/

Sparky   Whitelions ... listened and note count...hard to reconcile 43 Trillion dinar...to USD... impossible...

Sparky   Whitelions ...at 1:1...

Tebow   Sparky so basically any guru can tell you something and you'll believe him

Whitelions   Sparky but how do you know he is telling the truth when the CBI said so different than what he tells you on so meny points

Whitelions   Sparky ok what do you think 1 to 1 means ?

Sparky   Whitelions ...IYO...how much IQD in circulation ?

Sparky   Whitelions 1 IQD : 1 USD...

Whitelions   Sparky I dontknow or care this is a exchange only and we as privet people have 2 years to turn in where as the banks of the world have 10 years ether Iraq can ask the banks to turn in as they need or the banks can turn in as the rate changes at a penny or 2 we will take our dinar to the banks and they will deal with the cbi from there .so you think 1 to 1 is a dollar or 3.65 witch is the going rate for the dollar ?

Dave   thought banks held foreign currencies

Sparky   Whitelions ... hopefully the later...as I don't know sh it...

Whitelions    Sparky you have not explained how you know he is telling you the truth

Sparky   Whitelions ...good reason for that... I don't...

Whitelions   Sparky but we do know the CBI has told us how they will handle the dinar its on their web site

Dave   like your bank is going to exchange for cash

Whitelions   Dave for the banks of the world yes for us and all the people taking it to the banks 2 years

Sparky   Whitelions CBI has said several things over the years...

Dave   yes numerous times no float

Whitelions   Sparky it's in writing you have been listing to gurus to long tell a lie long enough and people will believe it thats what gurus count on

Tebow   Dave what?

Dave   Tebow cbi.....

Dave   nyet!

Dave   to float

Tebow   Dave yep

Sparky   Whitelions ...lol...you said gurus...

xyz   Whitelions 10-9-2019 Intel Guru MarkZ [How long will we have to exchange?] I understand we will have about 10 days to make our appointments and about 30 days to do our exchanges

Sparky   Whitelions ...10 years banks... probably always good if taken to the source...even 50's..

Whitelions   Sparky yes I did I'mnot a guru no matter what some call me because I dont care what you think I dont want followers I just post the news and give you and others a chance to deside for your selfs with out spin .

Sparky   Whitelions ... however, do like your thoughts of close to ports of Kuwait value...for importation...

Sparky   Whitelions ... just a big  stretch...to support and sustain...

Sparky   ... absolutely no necessity to persuade me... I m all in... catch the wave...no difference how we get there...

Dave   Sparky no Tsumami for you!

Whitelions   Sparky this is really close the demastrations have set it back a little the ports are set so dont worry about them ,we see more the the avriage iraqi on the street they are to busy trying to sivervie to watch what is happening in the banking system or what the gov. is doing to improve there lives thats why you are seeing them protest if they had waited a little longer it would have been different Trump pulling our troupes may push it he did it because Iraq told him to shove it where Iran is conserend so he started kaouse in Turkey

Sparky   ... I figure I'll at least triple my investment...

Whitelions   Sparky I agree

Dave   almost doubled mine.....

Dave   thanka to cdn crashing

Dave   thats with no rv......

Tebow   Whitelions anyone ever said you write like Andre

Sparky   Whitelions ... appreciate your last post...

xyz   Tebow yes you just said it

Whitelions   Tebow I dont dought it my spelling is so bad and at this time aof night its worse cocktails are no help lol

 Dinar Perspective Roundtable Pre-Recorded Call w/ Pat, Mark, and Bobby Replay LINK  49 mins

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