IQD CALLS CHAT Tuesday Night 8-27-19 Part 1 of 2
.IQD CALLS CHAT Tuesday Night 8-27-19 Part 1 of 2
Young_SC Specialized: minted coins serve internal business transactions
Young_SC Monday 26 August 2019 There have been recent parliamentary voices calling for the reintroduction of coins (coinage) and reintroduction into circulation, as well as reconsideration of the project to delete the three zeros from the Iraqi currency, at a time when economists regarded it as part of the great economic reform process in the country.
Strategic Plan
Economist Dr. Essam Mohamed Hassan said that "the Central Bank decided earlier to develop a plan to create coins as part of a restructuring plan that requires the approval of the House of Representatives as a strategic plan will contribute to support the value of the Iraqi dinar in trading
"The change of currency means that a new currency replaces an old currency, with a specified replacement rate, and removes the zeros of the old currency or moves the decimal places to the left," he said, adding that "part of the restructuring plan of the currency and banks involves the creation of coins for trading." Financial support for the national economy. "
Hassan said that "the coin project, launched in 2004 did not succeed because of the absence of comprehensive economic reforms to support the financial value of the dinar in the global market," explaining that the coins will be one of the important intermediate currencies that will be used for trading and transactions.
"Deleting zeros and reintroducing coins has to do with economic reforms because coins, because of their durability, are longer than coins that are quickly damaged," he said. In 2004, "indicating that this requires the dissemination of a culture to educate the public about the economic feasibility of the minted currency."
IQD CALLS CHAT Tuesday Night 8-27-19 Part 1 of 2
Young_SC Specialized: minted coins serve internal business transactions
Young_SC Monday 26 August 2019 There have been recent parliamentary voices calling for the reintroduction of coins (coinage) and reintroduction into circulation, as well as reconsideration of the project to delete the three zeros from the Iraqi currency, at a time when economists regarded it as part of the great economic reform process in the country.
Strategic Plan
Economist Dr. Essam Mohamed Hassan said that "the Central Bank decided earlier to develop a plan to create coins as part of a restructuring plan that requires the approval of the House of Representatives as a strategic plan will contribute to support the value of the Iraqi dinar in trading
"The change of currency means that a new currency replaces an old currency, with a specified replacement rate, and removes the zeros of the old currency or moves the decimal places to the left," he said, adding that "part of the restructuring plan of the currency and banks involves the creation of coins for trading." Financial support for the national economy. "
Hassan said that "the coin project, launched in 2004 did not succeed because of the absence of comprehensive economic reforms to support the financial value of the dinar in the global market," explaining that the coins will be one of the important intermediate currencies that will be used for trading and transactions.
"Deleting zeros and reintroducing coins has to do with economic reforms because coins, because of their durability, are longer than coins that are quickly damaged," he said. In 2004, "indicating that this requires the dissemination of a culture to educate the public about the economic feasibility of the minted currency."
Baxter YoungSC... is there a link for that
futuremoney no
Portmagaland SKELFLA I read awile ago on a thread that investment bankers where going to somehow do to the dinar, what they have been doing to silver by keeping silver artificially low with huge fake paper future/derivatives. They were going to package the dinar in some bogus investment scheme that would keep it from popping. So, your above statement about large quantities being bought sounds like it might fit the description of that thread comment.
Young_SC Baxter im trying to look for the link but i cannot find it anywhere.
Portmagaland It's way above my pay grade, so I can only generalize it.
Baxter Young_SC ok..thx
Baxter I am beginning to think my dime... is in deep doo doo
Portmagaland Baxter If so lame
Portmagaland Silver is looking like it might break out and ......
Baxter you cant make much money on silver unless you buy a ton of it... a 2 or 3 dollar jump... wont pay much not worth the risk..
Baxter when the china deal goes through..chances are it will drop again
Portmagaland Baxter We will see
Baxter yep.. we will
Portmagaland It's looking better than the dinar right now.
Baxter I cant argue that
Sparky ... interesting input by Skelfla...did I read institutions buying at 2 cents per dinar ? That would cost $500 for a 25 k pink note, if my math is right... I get mine a whole lot cheaper...
larrykn GA all, seems to be quite a busy place in here today lol
larrykn I see Kap was in here, brave man lol
Sparky ... would sell a pack or two at 2 cents a pop...
larrykn Kap float is the talk of the town, I was just wondering why back in 2013 the cbi was experimenting with a rate of $113 to $122, I might agree with Kap thinking it will float , I'm just not sure where it will start at.
Sparky larrykn hi Larry, and agree...
Sparky ...like that silk road talk, though...
larrykn you know I think people need to take a chill pill for awhile and see what just plays out, no one knows how or when or at what rate they will do it until they just do it. so you can talk all you want but we will just have to wait and see
Zig Kaperoni visited earlier.....a spirited exchange.....lol.....
Sparky ... institutional investors, such as hedge funds...can manipulate the market, as they do in the FX...wonder what significant, amassing, for 18 months...with principals in the dark...at 2 cents per dinar, ... "something is up "...?
Zig Hi Sam.....long time.....
Sam I Am I missed Kap?
Zig LOL....yes.....too bad....
Sam I Am Hi Zig
Zig Tebow took care of Kap for you.....lol
Sam I Am That's not too comforting
Zig I think Kap is now considering a possible LOP.....imagine that.....lol
Sam I Am again?
Tebow someone had to do it
Zig LOL
Sparky Zig ...Kap said that he didn't think so...
Sam I Am Kap sent me an email 6 years ago congratulating me on being right about the lop
Sam I Am He goes back and forth
Zig Anew member, "SKELFLA" had some interesting stuff to say.....you may want to scroll up.....
Sparky Zig ...some of which is sketchy,...imo...
Zig Sparky : This whole thing is sketchy.....lol
Sparky Zig ...truer words never spoken...
Sam I Am Zig Did you hear my call with Nash on the Iranian rial?
Zig Sam I Am : No....I will get around to it.....been staying away.....gets tiring.....boring......lol
Young_SC Sam I Am Iranian rial and iraqi dinar are complete 2 different entities
Young_SC No one cares about the rial
Zig Sam I Am : You posted a link to the here but I think the Mod deleted it......
Young_SC Monetary policy is in a different direction for Iran
Zig to the call
Sparky Young_SC ... Iranians do...
Young_SC Sparky lol
Sparky Young_SC lol
Sam I Am Zig That's no surprise
Tebow Sparky we don't
Young_SC Tebow lol
Young_SC Im not sure why Sam I Am mentions the Rial
Zig Young_SC : Ask him....lol....he is here....
Young_SC Because he says the dinar and rial are in the same category
Young_SC That alone just tells me Sam is 100% lost False news
Sparky Tebow true...but, who knows what impact Tomans...hyper inflation, will have in their Shia brother currency value...
Young_SC Fake news (donald trumps voice)
Young_SC Sam and Kap like to hand out false intepertations
Sam I Am Young_SC What are you babbling about?
Zig LOL
Young_SC Sam I Am scroll up
Sam I Am Both the dinar and the rial lost value due to hyperinflation, right?
Young_SC Sam I Am you are in dire need of help when it comes to knowing the difference between the Iraqi dinar and the Iranian Rial
Sam I Am Educate me
Zig People who have opposing views add some much needed life to a chat room......IMO.....
Young_SC Zig lol
Sam I Am Iran announced that they are removing zeros from their currency, the same thing Iraq announced
futuremoney seems like when Zig comes in here ..the worms start crawling out of the wood..
Sparky Zig and thanks for getting Kap in here... appreciate you...!
Zig This chat room was in dire need of a spark or two.....otherwise you just talk about the weather in Ohio............
Young_SC Sam I Am ahh yes because Iran is a failed state, its monetary policy is in the complete opposite from Iraqs
Young_SC Come on Sam really lol
futuremoney spark? or just arguing
Young_SC You know that man
Zig It had become the most boring chat I had ever seen..............
Sparky ...luv this room !
futuremoney then why come in
Zig I come in because I am good at changing it.....lots of experience.....and I am one of the founders............
Young_SC If you do not know the facts of whats happening currently then there is no debate
Sam I Am Regardless of their respective histories and issue, both currencies lost value due to hyperinflation and both announced that they will remove zeros
Sam I Am So either both will make people rich or both will be a lop
Sam I Am I say lop
Young_SC Sam I Am Sam Iraq is not going through hyperinflation at this moment
Young_SC Iraq is
Young_SC Iran*
Young_SC Iraq has not had hyperinflation for how long now???
Tebow Sam I Am when did Iraq ever have hyperinflation?
futuremoney both sides arguing opinions that may or may not have merit...is pointless
Sam I Am correct, they did that in the 80s and 90s
Young_SC Sam I Am sam im talking about now
Sam I Am Tebow Shabs said they did in the 80s
Tebow Sam I Am again how long ago was that?
Young_SC Ohh my goodness brother you still bringing up 30 years ago news lol
Sam I Am Tebow irrelevant ... the zeros are still there and they want them gone
Young_SC Sam are you paying attention to anything?
Young_SC Iraq the central hub for the middle east quoted a week ago
Young_SC World bank supporting Iraq
xyz Zig I take the 5th
Tebow You know all about irrelevant bringing 30 yr old news
Young_SC Purchasing power for its citizens
Young_SC Same my brother read Catch up Its all in print
Young_SC So my question is what are you babbling about? Sam*
Young_SC The "Finance Committee in the Iraqi Council of Representatives announced on Monday (19-August-2019) the" government direction to reinstate the currency and delete zeros from paper currency in order to strengthen the national economy. "
Young_SC https://www.mawazin.net/Details.aspx?Jimare=61023
Young_SC Same ??
Young_SC World Bank confirms its support for the advancement of the economy of iraq
Young_SC http://alforatnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=208943
Young_SC Sam ^^^^^^^ ???
Tebow Theorem? ;thinking:
Sparky Zig ...young is right, much more interesting with you in chat !
Sam I Am lop article
Sam I Am This is what you guys do .... find lop articles and call them RV articles
Young_SC My goodness Sam
Sam I Am You've been doing that for 9 years since I entered dinar world
Sam I Am okay, I gotta run
Zig Tebow and XYZ are good for a chat room......despite the problems that they sometimes cause......LOL
Tebow Sam I Am can you give one article with the word 'lop'
Sparky Zig oh, no doubt about that...
Zig Blame me for getting their bans lifted......lol I twisted the Mod's arm.....lol
xyz Zig Z is a no trouble manufacturer ... sandyf, Sam I Am are and get away with it
Sparky ...all good folks here, imo...
Zig Sam I Am : Bye Sam.....IMO you are also good for a chat room.....but I am in the tiny minority......LOL
IQD CALLS Chat With Kaperoni Tuesday Evening 8-27-19
.IQD CALLS Chat With Kaperoni Tuesday Evening 8-27-19
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Baxter THE DIME LINE STARTS BEHIND ME..AND DOUG..AND CLAY..AND CHATTELS..AND FUTUREMONEY..AND FOXMULDER...
Baxter JUST PICK A NUMBER...AND GET ON BOARD..
Zig Baxter : I would take a nickel in an instant.....lol....and you would never see me again..... :na;
Baxter shhhhh ... so would I but dont tell anybody
Dave Baxter thanx buddy.....no dimes for me
Dave at least sparky has my back....
Zig Dave : What rate would satisfy you??
Dave a dime....
Dave less than that would be a lop
Zig Of course most people do not have enough Dinar to be satisfied by a relatively low rate.....I understand that.....
Dave 10,000% roi?
Dave coins......could cost a dime a piece to mint… ergo a dime works for me
Dave did they not say that they wished that the coins have value?
Zig Hey Kap!!.....Long time.....
Kaperoni White lions why do you make such foolish statements? You're accusing me of making money off people that have followed me for years. I never sold anything or on anything or charged anyone anything. It just goes to show how naive you really are
Dave Kaperoni lol sheeple yes.....
Kaperon iHi Zig, Dave
Zig Kaperoni : You are a frequent topic of conversation here....lol
Dave howdy all
Kaperoni Well I shouldn't be. Rather than making me the conversation they should be trying to find ways to justify 42 trillion dinar in circulation. LOL
IQD CALLS Chat With Kaperoni Tuesday Evening 8-27-19
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Baxter THE DIME LINE STARTS BEHIND ME..AND DOUG..AND CLAY..AND CHATTELS..AND FUTUREMONEY..AND FOXMULDER...
Baxter JUST PICK A NUMBER...AND GET ON BOARD..
Zig Baxter : I would take a nickel in an instant.....lol....and you would never see me again..... :na;
Baxter shhhhh ... so would I but dont tell anybody
Dave Baxter thanx buddy.....no dimes for me
Dave at least sparky has my back....
Zig Dave : What rate would satisfy you??
Dave a dime....
Dave less than that would be a lop
Zig Of course most people do not have enough Dinar to be satisfied by a relatively low rate.....I understand that.....
Dave 10,000% roi?
Dave coins......could cost a dime a piece to mint… ergo a dime works for me
Dave did they not say that they wished that the coins have value?
Zig Hey Kap!!.....Long time.....
Kaperoni White lions why do you make such foolish statements? You're accusing me of making money off people that have followed me for years. I never sold anything or on anything or charged anyone anything. It just goes to show how naive you really are
Dave Kaperoni lol sheeple yes.....
Kaperon iHi Zig, Dave
Zig Kaperoni : You are a frequent topic of conversation here....lol
Dave howdy all
Kaperoni Well I shouldn't be. Rather than making me the conversation they should be trying to find ways to justify 42 trillion dinar in circulation. LOL
SKELFLA Kaperoni I was hoping to catch you. Sent you a message on twitter. Do you have any theories on why some institutions are buying large amounts of dinar at a significant premium?
Dave Kaperoni Auctions meaningless to you then?
Zig Please TRY to be civil when chatting with Kaperoni.....Thank You
Kaperoni Dave the auctions are not meaningless they perform a very significant task
Dave global at the nominal rate also....?
Kaperoni They provide foreign currency for Imports, and provide a mechanism to stabilize the dinar exchange rate throughout the country
Dave yes...200,000,000usd a day...lol
Zig Oh Oh....Tebow entered.....lol.....like old times.....
Dave lots of importts
Kaperoni Skelfla I am not aware of this but it doesn't surprise me
Zig Kaperoni : You don't believe in a so-called LOP.....right??
Kaperoni Zig, I do not believe they will LOP, but those recent coin articles are clearly describing a LOP
Dave show me...
Kaperoni There can be no confusion when they're talking about removing the zeros from the notes and introducing a new currency. That's a LOP
SKELFLA Thanks for responding Kap.... Why doesn't it surprise you. They have been amassing this IQD for over 18 months paying a 20/1 premium. Why on earth would they pay such a premium ? I'm am not a believer in a mythical "RV"
Tebow Kaperoni only in your mind!
Dave scrap metal worrth more......
Dave than coins
Kaperoni Tebow when you come to the table with an explanation of how they can reduce 42 trillion dinar then we have something to talk about
Dave Hard Currency Auctions....
Zig Kaperoni : Jeez....now you're sounding like Sam.....Gulp.....
Tebow Kaperoni who says they have 42t
Kaperoni Skelfla, who knows maybe they know they're going to float the currency like every other emerging-market
Dave cbi takes in dinar,,,,for usd
Kaperoni Tebow it's in the CBI quarterly reports and is also in the IMF Article IV
Tebow Kaperoni why do you come in and start the name calling?
Kaperoni You think all those organizations are lying so that you can have your mythical RV?
SKELFLA Kap, please don't interpret my posting as being some delusional fool like the so called gurus. But I have first hand knowledge of these transactions and even the principles are not privy to the reasoning.
Tebow Kaperoni do you really believe the CBI is going to give the heads up to speculators
Dave CBI sitting on all those tons of dinar..........Still in circulation or not?
Kaperoni A heads up on what? Just look at all the other emerging markets that have floated it wasn't a secret they just did it because that's what they do
Tebow Kaperon i and you stay with your delusional float
Kaperoni It's not a delusional float it's what the IMF asked for in the 2012 Article IV
Tebow Kaperoni got an 'New" news to offer?
Dave Tebow call it his gut feeling ...Kap disregards anything cbi has had to say
Tebow CBI said no Float
SKELFLA But even at a fairly aggressive float paying a 20/1 premium would mean the institutions wouldn't see a return until the IQD surpassed a 2cent value... Which would be years away if ever. Doesn't make sense.
Dave SKELFLA Kaps free float theory not CBI;s
Kaperon iDave it would be very difficult to sit on them considering the money supply is necessary to maintain stability
Dave according to you or cbi?
Dave CBI owns the Dinar...they can burn irt
Kaperoni The CBI never said they would not float they said they would not float at that time that's like saying we're not going to LOP and then LOP a year later
Tebow Kaperoni If Iraq floated their currency and it went up 10%, every speculator in world would buy every last dinar so Iraq would not have a currency on the streets
SKELFLA To be fair Dave as someone who consulted for the CBI a number of years ago I agree the only viable way is a float. Even then the rate change will be nominal.
Dave show me......you are going back over a decade........,.as usual
Dave SKELFLA WHO?
Kaperoni The IMF clearly told the CBI in 2012 to start creating the conditions to move to a more flexible exchange rate regime allowing the currency to gradually appreciate.
That's a float there's no other way to interpret that. And considering the IMF is still the trustee over the CBI, I bet they will follow such a directive. But if they don't and choose the alternative it's a LOP
SKELFLA Who, what?
Dave some economist like Kap
Tebow Kaperoni so you are the decision maker on time limits of Iraq CBI statements :laugh
Dave got to go.....
Tebow Kaperoni IMF never said ' gradually appreciate'
Kaperoni No Tebow you just don't have Arabic translators to properly translate things in your going off electronic translation which everyone knows is nonsense
Kaperoni Sure they did..go read it
Tebow Kaperoni so you know also what I have and don't, really?
Tebow Kaperoni no you prove it! Can not read something that is not there
Dave Kaperoni "RESTORATION OF THE IQD"......make good enough sense rto me
SKELFLA @Kaperoni A float doesn't answer why certain institutions are amassing IQD at a significant premium. There must be something else behind the strategy ...my theory is to use the currency as a derivative base for the belt & road initiative.
Kaperoni Tebow that is the problem with you you do not understand how monetary policy works. Currency float all over the world every day many of them go up and down significantly including Russia and Egypt that have had significant gains. Is the world buying up those currencies? The Central Bank controls the amount of currency not the Speculator
SKELFLA That's the only theory that makes any sense to me ...even though its a stretch.
Tebow Kaperoni the trouble with you is many, you think you know more than anyone else and all other opinions are uneducated. Poor you! You only pick and choose what fits your thinking. Then calls others fools.
Kaperoni I've told anyone that wants to read the facts that the 2012 Article IV Consultation is very clear all you need to do is go read it it's in print and it's on the IMF website. The most recent 2019 Article IV does not talk about the transition but does talk about other circumstances that need to be satisfied prior such as stability, meeting the spread, Etc
Tebow Kaperoni 7 yrs? Anything new?
Kaperoni You know it's funny T bolt that you mention this because you're affiliated with this chat room and they make money off of videos from what I've been told so how is your pockets doing? It's well-known that I have nothing to do with any websites though I do post on one specifically but that's quite a stretch to tie me to financial gain just because I post on a site
SKELFLA Tebow, the fact of the matter is an overnight "RV" is mathematically & economically impossible. I grew up in the ME went to an Arab school was the only blue eyed , blond haired kid there. I am fluent in both Arabic & Farsi. I worked closely with the CBI five years ago. There will be no magical RV.
Baxter SKELFLA.... do you ever listen to the Iraq TV stations..and what they are saying about all of this?
Baxter if you are fluent?
Kaperoni Glad to see they're still one level headed person here but I've got to go so have a great day nice seeing you Zig. Nice to meet you Skelfla
Tebow Kaperoni alot of level headed people here who don't believe you and your opinion
Zig If anyone has interest, Kaperoni can be found at https://dinaralert.webs.com/ Thanks, Kap......Take it easy.....
SKELFLA @baxter No not really. But I have a lot of friends and associates still in Iraq. As I went to school with them in the 80s in Sharjah during the Iran/Iraq war.
Baxter SKELFLA ok.. thx
Zig Always fun when Kap visits.... ;eye roll;
Baxter I just dont know why they would lop... if their inflation isnt high....
SKELFLA , is Map gone? I was really wanting to pick his brain about these transactions. You guys are too much. This Kap guy seems the most valid when it comes to workable theories.
Zig People get too emotional about this stuff.....
Tebow Zig usually but I try a bit hard to behave, it's hard at time like these
Zig I know....not that bad....lol....used to be much worse....
Tebow Can be!
SKELFLA So Kap left?
Baxter SKELFLA yes
Zig; nice-day Kap.....Visit again soon....lol
SKELFLA Oh well..catch you later. Bye
Tebow Zig you do know the Iraqi def of 'soon', maybe never!
foxmulder SKELFLA something not on par with all of this , the CBI at numerous times have said they are not going to float the currency. Seems to me to very misleading.
Zig Have to give Kap credit for even coming in here.....seriously.....
Tebow Zig I give him NO credibility
Zig Obviously....lol
Baxter we know Tebow... LOL
foxmulder That's fine if he thinks he is right , but it doesn't fly in contrast to the CBI 's statements throught the yrs.
Tebow Zig you been holding out on the videos money? I want my cut!
Zig Tebow : Yeah.....I wish.....ask the Mod.....lol
SKELFLA foxmulder As someone who has a relatively good understanding of monetary policy especially in that region of the world plus the fact they have at least 42 trillion Dinar a overnight RV is literally impossible. A float despite being just as unlikely is the only viable option.
IMO What I want to know is why these institutions are in the process of buying huge amounts of Dinar and paying a huge premium. That's what I was hoping to uncover. Unfortunately Kap couldn't provide a good theory.
Tebow we can now return to our regular schedule programming!
Baxter SKELFLA what institutions are buying up all the dinar
SKELFLA @baxter I can only speak for the transactions I am privy to. I know of other's but the two I was privy to and was able to verify involved a Chinese bank and an Israeli firm. They were independent transactions but both institutions paid the same premium. Which was 2cent / Dinar.
Baxter SKELFLA ok... thx
Baxter I figured China was involved
Baxter SKELFLA you need to stop in here more often
Baxter I have always hoped for a Dime
SKELFLA And no... I don't believe in all the b* about dragoon families etc... These were real transactions... There are more scheduled to take place in September. Which from what I gather will be the last.
Baxter SKELFLA thx for the info...
Zig SKELFLA : Hope you become a regular.....invite some people.....always use fresh blood here.....
SKELFLA No problem. The only theory I have been able to flesh out which is just a theory is that the IQD is going to be used as the base for derivative involving the belt and road initiative. Unfortunately that doesn't mean an RV it doesn't even mean the average speculator will see a change.. Its just a mechanism for a complex derivative.
Zig Kap is fun....admit it.....lol
futuremoney SKELFLA is sure refreshing have someone in chat that knows everything...thank you
IQD CALLS CHAT Early Tuesday 8-27-19 Part 2 of 2
.IQD CALLS CHAT Early Tuesday 8-27-19 Part 2 of 2
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madness dont know why these idiots keep saying rv rv this weekend, duh parliament is on recess urr vacation until sept. 3rd common sense would tell you nothing is going to happen until after that
foxmulder madness Iraq has told us many times what their intentions are , and now all this talk from everybody else about the normal procedure of dropping the 3 zeros are . which would result in a lop , none of this is making any sense to me . I'm just going to listen to what to the CBI says.
madness yes drop the 3 zeros IN country and re issue smaller notes, that should have no bearing on our value, you think the US treasury that is holding trillions in iraq large notes is going to loose money, I think not they would have a hissy fit
JoeSchmoe foxmulder yea, we have heard it all over the last decade plus.
JoeSchmoe madness they can't only do this in country. Most likely a farce
JoeSchmoe article is prolly an oped too
foxmulder Like I said earlier dropping the 3 zeros and lopping the currency is not a viable way to add strength of the dinar against the dollar
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madness dont know why these idiots keep saying rv rv this weekend, duh parliament is on recess urr vacation until sept. 3rd common sense would tell you nothing is going to happen until after that
foxmulder madness Iraq has told us many times what their intentions are , and now all this talk from everybody else about the normal procedure of dropping the 3 zeros are . which would result in a lop , none of this is making any sense to me . I'm just going to listen to what to the CBI says.
madness yes drop the 3 zeros IN country and re issue smaller notes, that should have no bearing on our value, you think the US treasury that is holding trillions in iraq large notes is going to loose money, I think not they would have a hissy fit
JoeSchmoe foxmulder yea, we have heard it all over the last decade plus.
JoeSchmoe madness they can't only do this in country. Most likely a farce
JoeSchmoe article is prolly an oped too
foxmulder Like I said earlier dropping the 3 zeros and lopping the currency is not a viable way to add strength of the dinar against the dollar
larrykn Baxter interesting thoughts
Baxter larrykn yes it is
foxmulder Yes good video
JoeSchmoe see, these kinds of discussions are good. Bring LOP into the convo, talk it out...use common sense, talk yourself out of the idea
madness well on the good side of the news, not heard in the last decade, iraq has stated they want to raise the dinar exchange rate against foreign currencys gee thats about as black and white as it gets
Baxter where Iraq ties into it.. who knows
JoeSchmoe madness we HAVE heard them say this before unfortunately
madness oh did not know that\
foxmulder madness it sure is !!
JoeSchmoe but it is always good to hear it again. Maybe they will finally follow through
madness now they are saying they are going to release coins guess that is bad news too
JoeSchmoe madness now that is good lol
JoeSchmoe IF they do it
madness yeah its iraq I know joe lol
JoeSchmoe madness you don't remember them saying at least twice before in the last decade that they want to raise the exchange rate against the dollar? I have
madness in all fairness though they are making progress and they do have an ego too so I do see this going in 2020 maybe before maybe not, but they sure want on the global arena and that cant be too bad for all of us dinar holders no matter what the out come
JoeSchmoe lets hope
madness well joe there was an article in 2015 I think
JoeSchmoe I know I have seen/heard it at least two other times other than recently
JoeSchmoe maybe in the past year? I hope it is that recent, then maybe there is more to it
JoeSchmoe time does not exist when it comes to this thing
madness well I did as much back home work I could, but come march next year that will be 2 years for me so guess you could call me a noob
madness well all sanctions have been lifted, I think the IMF said go ahead, I think they just have to work out the wrinkles before going on forex
JoeSchmoe I wish I could go back to being a noob, I had money then
madness lol dont feel bad joe my diner is in a folder and I drank it already I consider it long gone
madness LOL I said diner I meant dinar
JoeSchmoe I consider my dinar found money. Win or lose, it will either let me retire or be wall paper
JoeSchmoe I sold stock to buy most of my stash 10 years ago. That stock would have only yielded me maybe 10k
madness well it will worth something, there not going demonetize there currency the question is how much that all
JoeSchmoe I don't know if they are smart enough to pull something off, like get everyone down with LOP articles...then raise the rate to maybe 10 cents just to get everyone to sell
madness well I stop buying im done, I have enough to be happy with what ever the outcome is
madness yeah my buddy said the same thing, bunch of trolls calling a lop when iraq has stated they do NOT want to lop, all this lop talk makes me want to lop my foot off in some gurus you know what
JoeSchmoe well you can bet that Sam has a raging 'you know what' right now with all this talk :laugh
JoeSchmoe im out, time for my morning surf check
madness yeah well I will just and keep focused on what comes out of the CBI and GOI and so far it has not been bad, they just move slow as heck but they are moving
Tebow madness sandyf thinks otherwise
madness well unless sandy is dating the head of the cbi I will just stick with what they say and not what people think, it does get hard sometimes to understand what they are saying, but im sure we can all agree on one thing and that is they want on the international market
madness and in order to be international you have to have your currency follow I would think that would be common sense, but common sense is not so common these days, so guess we see what we see
Young_SC Tebow lol And dont forget about Kap Lollol
Young_SC Articles last week stating purchasing of power for citizens of Iraq, coins new notes etc etc and some still say no such thing will happen when the article for the government just showed you in printb
madness there intention is to piss you off, does not take a rocket scientist to see the articles coming out of iraq and just take a step back and see and say ok thats what they want to do
Young_SC From*
SKELFLA Anyone care to explain how Iraq can "RV" to any meaningful level when there is more that 42 TRILLION Dinar in existence? How exactly is that mathematically or economically even remotely possible?
Tebow SKELFLA what makes you think they have 42T in circulation
SKELFLA The CBI !
madness umm maybe just maybe there is not 42 trillion out there, governments do tell little lies once in a while, do you have a picture of this so called trillions
Tebow the CBI is not going to truely tell you what they are going to do
SKELFLA Wow. When facts don't line up with your believes the default position is they are lying?
Madness plus iraq has so much gold oil god knows they are a wealthy country they could probably cover 100 trillion
Tebow SKELFLA and you think the CBI is giving you the true facts
SKELFLA Madness... In sorry but that means nothing. I have worked and consulted for the CBI albeit a number of years ago.
madness well then break out the spread sheet and let get number crunching
SKELFLA Don't get me wrong... I am not a nay sayer. As I have first hand knowledge of several institutions who have been covertly buying large quantiles of IQD and paying a significant premium. So something is up. I just don't believe its due to a "RV"
SKELFLA Thanks for the welcome Zig.
madness well its probably because they been on the path to go international and at some point a little money is to be made, that might be a clue
SKELFLA Not necessarily madness. As the premium is significant. A 20/1 premium
madness thats what makes it exciting no one really knows, its cat and mouse all we can hope for is baxter gets his dime, then we all win or not but it was still worth the ride
SKELFLA Yes, but it would be interesting if not potentially profitable to know why the institutions are doing these transactions. I have reasonable contacts in the space and even the those involved in the transactions are not privy.
madness well ske thats why its call speculative
Zig SKELFLA : No offense but anyone can come in here and make all kinds of statements claims, etc.....but not provide any proof.....so we have to take it all with a grain of salt.......
SKELFLA True... But with an RV being an economical & mathematical impossibility I would be keen to know what the reasoning is behind the institutions.... I suspect we will never know but they obviously have an angle.
SKELFLA I agree ZIG.
madness well sometimes the impossible becomes possible or they would not be saying they want to raise the rate of the dinar against other foreign currency's thats pretty much sums it up
SKELFLA Well it was good to have a quick chat. May join again in the not too distant future. Take care. Bye
Young_SC This chat room got interesting again once Tebow, zig and xyz came back lolol
madness well young dont forget about you too
Zig SKELFLA : Bye....visit more often and bring some friends!!..... :)
Zig I am going to PM Kap at Dinar Alert and see if he will address your criticisms.....lol....maybe come in and chat sometime today.....but he may be scared now.....lol
madness lol
Young_SC Lol
Zig Okay.....message sent.....told Kap his "Admirers" wished to chat with him.....so watch for his visit.....LOL.....Try to be civil if possible.....Yikes.............
Tebow economical & mathematical impossibility right Kap!
Whitelions Good morning all . I see we have another Trillion spotter lol there is no where on the cbi site that tells you how much is in curlation I for one would like SKELFLA where it is . lol
Matt Johnson & Johnson sued big time yay not on mainstream news though only in RT news
madness its in her head, how can we print it out and put on a spread sheet is the question
Matt Opioid addiction's drugs Johnson & Johnson lost the lawsuit they gotta pay big time
Matt GREAT NEWS!
Whitelions dose anybody know about this guy on dinar guru called invster Jeff ?
Zig Whitelions : Yes....all his recordings can be found at https://www.iqdcalls.com/Dinar-Investor.html The Mod and I have both invited him to come into chat.....
Zig Jeff and Kap do not get along....lol
Whitelions Zig thanks I dont agree with his giving a date to shoot for it gives people to much hope just to be disapointed but his following of what is really going on in Iraq is very good .
Zig Whitelions Ya know, Kimberly, you are the most optimistic person I have ever known regarding this investment.....true....
Whitelions we have gone through sooooo meny gurus and people still follow blindly it always amazes me what pure greed can do to people both the follower and the con leading them
Whitelions Zig I did me resurch and still do it everyday and through all the bull I can see the prize and thats all I see the rest is just talk
Whitelions Zig Ive made my share of misstakes ive almost called it a cupla times but then I go back and look at the Iraq agreement and see that we were not really there , But now they are at the last part of the education part of it and thats the last part I'm not calling it but the light is the britest I have ever seen it ;:));
Baxter THE DIME LINE STARTS BEHIND ME..AND DOUG..AND CLAY..AND CHATTELS..AND FUTUREMONEY..AND FOXMULDER...
Baxter JUST PICK A NUMBER...AND GET ON BOARD..
Zig Baxter : I would take a nickel in an instant.....lol....and you would never see me again..... :na;
Baxter shhhhh ... so would I but dont tell anybody
Dave Baxter thanx buddy.....no dimes for me
Dave at least sparky has my back....
Zig Dave : What rate would satisfy you??
Dave a dime....
Dave less than that would be a lop
Zig Of course most people do not have enough Dinar to be satisfied by a relatively low rate.....I understand that.....
Dave 10,000% roi?
Dave coins......could cost a dime a piece to mint
Dave ergo a dime works for me
Dave did they not say that they wished that the coins have value?
IQD CALLS CHAT Early Tuesday 8-27-19 Part 1 of 2
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Wilder chattels hold on a sec.
Wilder If there was going to be a lop. Wouldn't the dealers quit buying back our dinar if was willing or needing to sell back?
Young_SC Whats up with this chatroom and LOP talk when iraq has already stated they want citizens to have purchasing power currency will increase in value against other foreign currencies
Young_SC Including the article back in March
Young_SC Has anyone in here seen an article or source from the CBI or government stated that Iraq may LOP the currency???
Young_SC We've seen purchasing power statements including an article that came out last week so why are you guys talking or creating false narratives of a LOP??
Larrykn Iraqi leaders condemn air raids targeting paramilitary groups
larrykn 2 ISIS hideouts destroyed in Kirkuk: Interior Ministry
larrykn MP rules out dismissing Abdul-Mahdi
larrykn One killed in blast in Diyala
IQD CALLS CHAT Early Tuesday 8-27-19 Part 1 of 2
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Wilder chattels hold on a sec.
Wilder If there was going to be a lop. Wouldn't the dealers quit buying back our dinar if was willing or needing to sell back?
Young_SC Whats up with this chatroom and LOP talk when iraq has already stated they want citizens to have purchasing power currency will increase in value against other foreign currencies
Young_SC Including the article back in March
Young_SC Has anyone in here seen an article or source from the CBI or government stated that Iraq may LOP the currency???
Young_SC We've seen purchasing power statements including an article that came out last week so why are you guys talking or creating false narratives of a LOP??
Larrykn Iraqi leaders condemn air raids targeting paramilitary groups
larrykn 2 ISIS hideouts destroyed in Kirkuk: Interior Ministry
https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/43778/2-ISIS-hideouts-destroyed-in-Kirkuk-Interior-Ministry
larrykn MP rules out dismissing Abdul-Mahdi https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/43779/MP-rules-out-dismissing-Abdul-Mahdi
larrykn One killed in blast in Diyala https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/43784/One-killed-in-blast-in-Diyala
larrykn The Bahraini Foreign Minister supported bombard Israel to the popular crowd and regard as self defense
The Bahraini Foreign Minister Khalid Bin Ahmed on Monday expressed support for Israel in the popular crowd forces bombing in Iraq, as well as Syria and Lebanon, bombed in response to Iranian threats [as].
Chirp bin Ahmed on his account on Twitter, "followed" tomorrow ", saying" Iran is declared war on us, Lebanese and its revolution guards mobilized in Iraq and preacher arm in Yemen and other "don't blame from their stockpiles and destroys it hits them self defense."
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, has indirectly admitted in an earlier statement his involvement in bombing the hardware stores and the popular crowd camps in Iraq and the popular crowd on Sunday accused what it has dubbed "evil crows Israeli forces shelled 45 Brigade in Anbar province on the Iraqi-Syrian border.
She had the crowd in a statement operations "tomorrow", "a series targeting Iraq's Zionist Israeli targeting of evil crows reconvened the popular crowd, this time by remotely piloted aircraft deep into Iraqi territory in the Anbar province on the road to Akashat based It is about 15 kilometres from the border."
She pointed out that the bombardment "led to the martyrdom of the Mujahid and another wounded seriously." she added, "this blatant assault came with air cover by American Airlines to the region as well as a large observation balloon near the scene.
The bombing "coincided with the start of the fourth phase of the Will of Victory operations in western Iraq with the participation of our heroic forces of army, police and mobilization, which are pursuing the remnants of terrorist groups," the group said.
larrykn She concluded by saying "Iraqi people promise that this attack will not deter the popular crowd forces on national role in combating terrorism and defend Iraq's land, security and dignity and deal with aggression and his supporters." Al-Anbar operations command of the popular crowd, Confirmed Sunday, killing two and wounding the third remotely piloted aircraft bombing in Anbar operations.
Command said in a statement received "tomorrow," "two, two marches unidentified people, today, fixed point of 45 popular build Brigade in Anbar operations (15 km from the Iraqi-Syrian border), killing two fighters and wounding 45 Brigade Most burning gig. "driving with her attached pictures of the wheels that have been bombed
http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=83324
larrykn The three presidencies to leaders of the crowd: attacks crowd attempts to drag the crowd of concern about his role in homeland defense
The President met with Barham Salih, in the Peace Palace in Baghdad on Monday, in the presence of Prime Minister Adil Abd al-Mahdi and House speaker Mohamed Al-halbusi, Chief of the popular crowd Faleh Fayad and many leaders of the popular crowd.
A presidential statement said [where] printer-friendly version of it, that "during the meeting, emphasizing the importance of the heroic role by various popular crowd forces along the rest of our military formations, and Liberation battles ISIS militants and terrorism."
"It was emphasized that attacks the crowd lately are partly attempts to drag the crowd and national defense system to concern about the continuing important role to eliminate the remnants of ISIS and final disposal of terrorism and risk against Iraq and the countries of the region and the world.
And these attacks are blatant hostile action targeting Iraq forces Al-muqtadir, Iraq will, through the Government and across all channels and all international and regional organizations that would deter aggressors and defend Iraq, security and sovereignty. "
larrykn "And in this context stressed the audience the importance of focusing on the fundamental objective of fighting terrorism and Iraqi ground clearance of regrouping and not worry about all that would divert attention from this battle with emphasis to Iraq's sovereignty and the safety of his sons red line and that the State shall protect them And defend them before any target and requires all Iraqi units and national unity in support of his heroine, respect for the rule of law and emphasize the reference State institutions and abide by whatever strengthens this role and saves security and peace and stability of Iraq. " http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=83321
larrykn Central Bureau of statistics: rising GDP in Iraq for the first chapter 2019
Business & money Economy news _ Baghdad Central Bureau of statistics, announced Tuesday, rising GDP in Iraq for the first half of the year 2019.
In his report he had seen him "economy", "GDP at current basic prices for the first quarter of the year 2019 reached 60613 billion dinars, or the equivalent of 51.3 billion dollars.
"The GDP for the first half of the year 2019 rose from the first quarter of 2018 by 8.9% to the current basic prices with decreased output chapter 4% 2018", noting that "the reduction was attributed to lower output of agricultural activity due to the calendar-and lower construction activity on Investment budget and implemented and ratios declined due to delayed ratification.
He noted that "the amount of crude oil exported contributed an exclusive 44.97% of total GDP at current basic prices with a quantity of crude oil exported during chapter 357.8 million barrels to 4 million barrels a day, while the average price per barrel to $60.5 source."
He noted that the "General Government activity current prices ranked second where he contributed by 16.52% according to transport and communications activity and storage third with 10.49% contribution rate. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17582
larrykn Rising gold prices with a marginal decline of the dollar
Economy news _ Baghdad Gold prices rose with a marginal decline of the dollar, amid cautious optimism investors care about cool trade tensions between Washington and Beijing.
Metal futures rose 0.26% yellow or $4 to $1541.2 a Troy ounce, at 09:50 am Mecca time, as he climbed 0.4% delivery rate 1532.9 dollars.
And the dollar index – which measures the greenback's performance against a basket of six currencies – slightly 0.14% to 97.9 points.
In his remarks to the G7 Summit yesterday, the US President said "trump" that China would like to reach a deal "urgently" to end the trade war, adding that Beijing had contacted the commercial team to propose the resumption of talks. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17581
larrykn Iran exports its goods to reach Iraq to one billion dollars a month
Business & money Economy news _ Baghdad Economic reports that Iranian goods exports to Iraq come closer to one billion dollars a month.
And Hamid said Husseini, Secretary General of the Iran-Iraq Chamber of Commerce in his remarks, export goods by an average of 30 million dollars a day to Iraq right up to a billion dollars per month, which means high that value to about $12 billion a year.
But remarkably, while Iranian exports value is positive for Tehran, however, Husseini said that exports so far in 2019, the lower level in 2018 for various reasons did not elaborate on details.
Hamid said that the Iranian rial exchange rate fluctuations against the dollar, us economic pressure, impact on the prestige of Iranian goods in the Iraqi market, after describing the "painstaking" has been restoring many Iranian goods to Iraq as tomato paste and milk. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17580
larrykn have a good day all
Chattels Young_SC Gave you a link above. Here it is again. LINK
Chattels The 2020 General Census awaits implementation: deliberate attempts to subordinate the census to political agendas
Tuesday 27 August https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=783853
chattels Political analyst Abdul Amir al-Moussawi believes that the census will provoke political crises because of the insistence of some to include the field of doctrine or title of clan or nationalism as well as the problems of the disputed areas within Article 140 of the Iraqi Constitution, which is competing for the purpose of obtaining its oil and natural resources, likely a dispute new between the center and the Kurdistan region because they are waiting to find out exactly to demand that Baghdad more money by raising the percentage allocated to them in Iraq , the financial budget, which is estimated today at 17% annually numbering ..
chattels " ................ the census will provoke political crises because of the insistence of some to include the field of doctrine or title of clan or nationalism as well as the problems of the disputed areas within Article 140 of the Iraqi Constitution,..........."
chattels So, the general census is not the Article 140 census per se.
foxmulder chattels there is alot of talk about a lop.not encouraging to say the least . I paid about 20 to 28 dollars for a 25,000 note ! If they lop maybe break even .
chattels foxmulder Understood.
chattels The Federal Supreme Court confirms that there is no difference in the legal status of men and women in the membership of the House of Representatives
Tuesday 27 August 13:17 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=783929
foxmulder chattels not the best investment choice I made , to say the least
chattels foxmulder Perhaps the return on our investment will not meet hopes/expectations.
chattels foxmulder Nor I at this point.
foxmulder chattels very well could be
chattels The central bank sells more than $ 265 million at a currency auction
Tuesday 27 August 14:04 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=783945
mudder The chattels brought in about a LOP is dated Oct/18..... Old news chattels...Try and keep up with the times please
foxmulder With all the statements coming out from my Iraq and the CBI about having a higher value against the dollar a lop sure doesn't seem like a viable solution
foxmulder mudder Been in this for many yrs same talk about a lop has never ended.
foxmulder mudder yes it was an old article!
foxmulder mudder it seems the times are staying the same as in previous yrs
foxmulder chattels we will wait it out and see the final outcome will be ... I'm going to
chattels foxmulder I am in it until the end, but one cannot ignore the possibilities. If it was a slam dunk then everybody would have dinar.
chattels Have a fine day all.
Baxter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH9v-VQ5_gY we are watching the reset of the world currencies
Baxter ;ice-cream;
foxmulder Baxter I just want to see one currency reset ...Iraqs....
Baxter so do i
foxmulder Baxter aand not a lot lol
foxmulder Lop
Baxter it wont lop
larrykn you guys are really freaking out over this Lop thing, that won't happen, they told us years ago what they had in mind and a lop was not it.
Baxter that link i brought in above is worth the ten minute listen..
larrykn let me find it I'll listen
Baxter about ten minutes above
foxmulder larrykn Most people who seem to think that they know what is going on ,are saying Iraq is going to follow what each and every other country has done on removing the zeros ..I myself a wait and see what the end result will be
Larrykn foxmulder they told us what they wanted to do. this is Iraq not another country , I really don't believe they will lop , people are just trying to stir the pot thats all
foxmulder larrykn I also think Iraq has different plans
madness Good Morning all
madness you guys are plastered all over Recaps talking about LOPS
Madness still waiting on your dime, the GOI comes back sept. 3rd then the fun should start to begin
Baxter I cant wait
madness yeah Oct. 1st changes the next banking quarter
madness win loose or draw, from the articles coming out of iraq they are moving full steam ahead with going international 2020 with a bang
Baxter lets hope so...
madness and iraq has stated they do not want to lop, they are just removing the 3 zeros in country and then raising the rate