Zig’s Place Chat and News Late Wednesday PM 5-19-21
Zig’s Place Chat and News Late Wednesday PM 5-19-21
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Butterfly Newspapers are following the expected date for the resumption of the parliament sessions and the government's readiness to prepare the budget for next year
Thursday 20, May 2021 01:34.......The newspapers published in Baghdad today, Thursday, the twentieth of May, followed the expected date for the House of Representatives to resume holding its sessions, the important laws on its agenda, and the government's readiness to prepare the budget for next year 2022, and other topics.
Al-Zawraa newspaper, issued by the Iraqi Journalists Syndicate, said: "The House of Representatives intends to resume its regular sessions by next week, as the parliamentary circles await the presentation of important laws on the agenda for approval in conjunction with the approaching elections date on the tenth of next October."
And she added: "Other circles expect the arrival of an official request from the Prime Minister, Mustafa Al-Kazemi, to the House of Representatives to make a ministerial change in the current government formation, which may include the nomination of the new Minister of Health after the resignation of the current Minister Hassan Al-Tamimi, and the change of the Ministers of Education and Electricity. The National Coalition, with difficulty, Parliament was able to hold its sessions due to the presence of Corona virus infections among the ranks of the deputies. "
The representative of the National Bloc, Hassan Shuwerd, said in a statement to Al-Zawraa: "There are many reasons that impede the achievement of a quorum for the parliament to hold its regular sessions, including the infection of a number of parliamentarians with the Corona virus, and the presence of others in their governorates now."
butterfly He added, "The Presidency has not yet officially informed the members of Parliament of the date of a close session to discuss important issues on the Iraqi arena, including the selection of the new candidate for the position of Minister of Health in place of the resigned Minister Hassan Al-Tamimi."
As it was quoted from MP Badr Al-Ziyadi, the MP, “The House of Representatives will witness next week holding its sessions and announcing the agenda, and laws have been distributed among the relevant committees, and there are laws that need a vote.
” Al-Ziyadi added: “Parliament has 4 months before the elections. He can issue many laws and other legislation. "
He explained: "Holding early parliamentary elections does not mean disrupting the sessions, otherwise it will be a negative indicator for the parliament."
As for "Kol Al Akhbar" newspaper, it spoke about the government's readiness to prepare the budget for next year 2022.
The newspaper said in this regard: "The Parliamentary Finance Committee announced that the Ministry of Finance is moving to prepare the draft general budget law for 2022, and that the government is working to complete the budget before holding the elections."
butterfly Committee member Jamal Cougar said, according to the newspaper: "There is a move by the Ministry of Finance to prepare the budget bill for the year 2022, for the purpose of that a sub-committee of members of the House of Representatives was formed for the purpose of discussing and following up the process of preparing the law."
Cougar added, "The government of Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi is in charge of preparing the budget law and sending it to the House of Representatives according to the Financial Administration Law, provided that it begins preparing it in the current month of May and completes it at the beginning of next October, prior to the date of the parliamentary elections."
He continued: "In the event that elections are held on time, the members of the next session of the House of Representatives are the ones working to read and discuss the 2022 budget law and vote on it."
The newspaper quoted another committee member, Majed Al-Waeli, as saying:
butterfly He pointed out: "There is a possibility to present it at an early date and the Finance Committee may discuss it in the current session, but he may realize it at the time of the elections." The House of Representatives takes longer after the members of the House of Representatives win the elections. "
Al-Zaman newspaper - I continued to follow up on the scarcity of water and the political measures required to be taken to secure Iraq's share of water.
In this regard, she indicated to the Ministry of Agriculture spokesman Hamid Al-Nayef saying: "There is a decrease in water levels, both from the Turkish side, which had no serious answers in releasing Iraq's water dues, as well as from Iran, which cut off the water completely from Darbandikhan and from the small Zab by a percentage 75 percent, "pointing out:"
He added, "This decrease is real and realistic, and there are fears, not only from the ministry, but from all the people, as we observe in Diyala, which witnessed the suspension of many electricity stations as well as water stations for the population, so this decrease is real and not a conspiracy or an artificial one."
sandyf @BobbyC They can and will co-exist if the current denominations are accepted at todays value - The superseded currency retains the ISO code and value as at the day of implementation. Dual pricing normally exists for 6 months. When the UK changed the coinage, you went into a bar and paid either 10 pence in new money or 2 shillings in old for a pint of beer. The real problem for those with physical currency is that it must be returned to the country for exchange. The IQD would no longer be the national currency of Iraq and no longer an active currency, the only value would be relative to exchange for the new currency.
butterfly Al-Nayef called on the government to use trade exchange with Turkey as a means of pressure to release the country's water quotas.
Al-Zaman quoted the head of the Parliamentary Committee on Agriculture, Water and Marshlands, Salam al-Shammari, as saying: "The competition between the Tigris and Euphrates levels is worrying and threatens a dry summer if the necessary government measures are not taken with the upstream countries of the two rivers and the tributaries, Turkey and Iran."
Al-Shammari explained, "The two countries are going ahead with their plans to establish reservoirs and dams that preserve the ability for them to deal with any irrigation and agricultural conditions, whatever they are, and we are waiting for their sympathy to provide us with water."
He continued, "The marshes are on the way to drought," stressing the need for an immediate start to an urgent governmental step to address the matter before it worsens, by contacting the two upstream countries to ensure Iraq’s share without delay .
butterfly Joint Operations Command: The ban will be partial on Friday and Saturday, like the rest of the days
Wednesday 19, May 2021 23:06........The Joint Operations Command announced that the Crisis Cell, at the Cabinet meeting, decided that the ban on Friday and Saturday will be partial from 9 at night to 5 in the morning, like the rest of the week.
butterfly Ports of Iraq see the most important international projects in the ports of the United Arab Emirates
Wednesday 19, May 2021 22:56.......The General Company for Ports of Iraq, one of the formations of the Ministry of Transport, announced today, Wednesday, a delegation visit to the United Arab Emirates, and a meeting was held with the Swedish company (Saab) via television screens to see the company’s ability to implement the vtms system ..
The general manager of the company, Dr. Farhan said Fartusi , according to a statement that an Iraqi delegation briefed the vtms system , which was carried out by the company in many countries of the world exceeds the 45% of the number of projects implemented in the world and there was a presentation of their business with how implementation.
he added that "during the visit of the delegation of the United Arab Emirates There was a tour of Jebel Ali Port and a meeting with Captain Nasser Ali Sabt, Director of the Port, and then a visit to (ELCOME) company in order to see its technological capabilities in implementing (VTS and VTMS) projects around the world.
butterfly He explained that important discussions took place between members of the delegation and the cadre of companies. The company’s delegation will have a close meeting with the staff of the Finnish Worsala Company as well, to find out the details and their ability to implement such actions.
Al-Fartousi emphasized that this system has electronic control over the detection of pollution in the water and the identification of its causes, as well as the control over the identification of objects falling into the sea and its source, in addition to strengthening the search and rescue process.
butterfly I am reposting this since it might get lost in the articles I posted............................19 May 21, 07:10 PM sandyf @BobbyC They can and will co-exist if the current denominations are accepted at todays value - The superseded currency retains the ISO code and value as at the day of implementation. Dual pricing normally exists for 6 months. When the UK changed the coinage, you went into a bar and paid either 10 pence in new money or 2 shillings in old for a pint of beer. The real problem for those with physical currency is that it must be returned to the country for exchange. The IQD would no longer be the national currency of Iraq and no longer an active currency, the only value would be relative to exchange for the new currency.
UNEEK I found this today - found it interesting and admit I probably - "most likely" do not fully understand it entirely but thought I would share for those who are a little more savvy in the area of economics - will post just a short portion with a link and anyone interested can read the long pdf file by clicking on the link -- I hope BobbyC and Kap read it and offer their perspective -...
UNEEK The Dutch Disease and Iraq’s Foreign Exchange Rate. By Dr.Zeki Fattah*
Conclusion: First, the Dutch Disease phenomenon doesn’t fully explain Iraq’s foreign exchange misalignment, nor is it the cause behind Iraq’s poor economic performance.
Unlike corona virus which is the same in developed and developing countries, and calls for the same treatment in both; the Dutch Disease phenomenon calls for different type of treatment in developing countries from that in developed countries.
This is because the exigencies on the ground in developing oil-exporting countries do not support the mechanism described under the Dutch Disease; therefore, the phenomenon cannot be used as a directive for policy measures in these countries.
UNEEK For example, given the exchange rate, and, because of unemployment and disguised unemployment, movements of production factors are neither constrained nor do they produce the effects postulated under the Dutch Disease in these countries.
Second, Iraq’s economic failure is caused by a combination of external and internal factors; including war damages caused by ISSIS, irrigation water problems, fall in oil prices, lack of foreign investment, economic mismanagement, corruption, socio-political instability, and a bloated public sector chronically pursing ineffective economic policy.
These problems cannot be dealt with by manipulating the country’s exchange rate.
They call for stability, sound economic policies, suitable and effective development strategy that can engage the country’s institutions and production forces in creating wealth and generating taxes.
Copyright IEN, 13. May 2021Iraqi Economists Network–بكة الاقتصاديين العراقيين
Dave sandyf going to call this new Iraqi currency IQN......?
Sparky Dave ... IMF recognize IQN ?
Sparky ... IQD until and unless they state otherwise ... CBI calls out IQN, time to fold up the tent ...
Sparky ... IQN spells LOP to me, unless I'm missing something ...
Dave Sparky IQN>>>>>>no such thing......!
Sparky Dave ... heard of IQN back in 2013 ... never read Shab's mention that term ...
Dave Sparky Gurus.....
Dave sandyf suggests IQD /Dinar not the same...?
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BobbyC butterfly I think what SandyF is missing is at what rate will the new (ld's) co-exist with the new currency (hd's) If Iraq issues the LD's, we have a re denomination. Lets say Iraq revalues at a 1:1 par with the USD, again how can ya have a 1 dinar all the way up to a 25K, or maybe even a 50K Dinar? Pricing in the market and price difference would lead to a collapse of the economy.....PERIOD Now some can argue the new ld's will be a new currency and that's true but has no bearing our our end game. It will still be the Iraqi Dinar once the smoke clears
Dave Lds worth the same as Hds........run concurrenty 10 yrs
Sparky BobbyC ... Shab's said will " co-exist " for ten years ...
Dave alaq stated the same....
Sparky ... after security, stability and a fully seated government ...
BobbyC UNEEK Great article and show us why Iraq can not have a positive change in the exchange rate without a diverse economy, in other words not based solely on oil. The Dutch tried that with a single resource and screwed themselves.
BobbyC So LD's are worth the same as HD's So Iraq will foot the bill for hundreds of Trillions of IQD. Yeah ok
Dave BobbyC UN imposed Sanctions Killed the IQD
BobbyC It killed the IQD prior to 2003. Just as it was supposed to do
BobbyC There are no sanctions on this current government, nor the Banks/IQD
BobbyC From the US Treasury......"
There currently are no broad-based sanctions in place against Iraq, but there are certain prohibitions and asset freezes against specific individuals and entities associated with the former Saddam Hussein regime, as well as parties determined to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act of violence that has the purpose or effect of threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq or udermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people."
Sparky BobbyC ... UNSC Ch 7 , they still owe Kuwait 2.5 Bill $ ...
BobbyC So that's against this Gov? No it's an inherited situation that has been agreed up with a certain % of oil proceeds going to Kuwait. Anywhere from 1 to 3%
Sparky BobbyC ... I wonder why they don't pay it off out of pocket change ...
Hello, World!
BobbyC U.S Treasury and OFAC......V. FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS
Unless a transaction involves a party blocked under OFACs authorities, financial transactions with Iraq are allowed, including the opening of correspondent accounts for Iraqi financial institutions.
BobbyC Sparky Becasue they are operating in a 2 to 3 billion USD deficit every month and that's why the UNSC Comm gave their blessing to the % agreement
BobbyC For a few years Kuwait waived those payments starting in 2014
Sparky BobbyC ... ahh, the inflated government comes into play ...
BobbyC That article UNEEK brought in was very cool and very telling of why we'll be here awhile
BobbyC Sparky 100%
BobbyC With higher oil prices, it's time for Iraq to act like adults and capitalize on those profits
Dave BobbyC need more than oil
BobbyC Dave Exactly and that's where UNEEK's article comes into play
BobbyC I live in a refinery based town and everyone outside those refineries benefit. That's the maximization of oil that Iraq needs and why the HCL would be so prominent
BobbyC EXXON left Iraq because the HCL was not incorporated
Sparky BobbyC ... that's a huge tell when Rex and Exxon step out ...
Sparky ... they'll be back when the corruption diminishes to controllable levels ...
BobbyC I hear ya. Iraq's oil sector is just as underdeveloped as the Banking Sector. That's why these biggies in oil want baghdad out of the opil contract/licenses Corruption is huge
BobbyC The Licensing Rounds are worse than the Auctions
Sparky ... pay to play ...
Sparky ... Maliki is still the man, Iranian soldier ...
Sparky ... his payroll is far and wide ...
Sparky ... as always, imo ...
BobbyC Sparky Very true. maliki, Ameri and Sadr run Iraq. Run it into the ground as well
Sparky BobbyC ... common denominator is Iran ...
BobbyC Yep and those 3 are in bed with em.
BobbyC Hell Sadr gave Maliki his PM on 09-10?
Sparky BobbyC ... Maliki put Talibani to sleep in '13 ? then Hero took over his Presidency ... if I recall ...
BobbyC Allawi (?) won the election but Sadr's coalition backed Maliki during the Parliament elections. That was during the Erbil Agreements days
BobbyC He tried for it again in 2014 but was pressured out and Abadi was put in
BobbyC Abadi started the Reform Process
Sparky ... once I see 104 disputed areas settled, I'll start to pay attention again ...
BobbyC 140 is set in stone until a national referendum takes place
BobbyC 140 and the HCL are 2 sticking points for Iraqi's with each totalling trillions of dollars
Sparky BobbyC ... 2014 Maliki gave the country to Isis at Mosul ...
BobbyC Yeah and our freaking Humvee's :)
Sparky BobbyC ... uniforms and all ...
BobbyC Amazing no one in a high political posistion was ever held accountable for ISIS. But that's what corruption buys you
Sparky BobbyC ... Maliki's payroll far and wide ... then, incorporating Hash'D ...
BobbyC That's ok per Recaps and DInar Guru, we're getting paid SOON
Sparky BobbyC ... yup, any day now ...
Sparky BobbyC ... already put down a deposit on my yaught ...
BobbyC I heard a guy tried to put Dinar down on a Farm once
BobbyC We still have a 66.67% chance of a positive outcome :)\
Sheila UNEEK lockdown might have happened today?
UNEEK BobbyC Sparky thanks for reading the article and discussing it -- I am going to scroll back and read your comments and see if I can absorb a little more
BobbyC It's that 33.33% that'll bites ya in the ass lol
Sparky BobbyC ... yup ...
BobbyC UNEEK you betcha. In a nutshell the Dutch tried to maximize their Exchange Rate on one resource and shot themselves in the foot
Sparky BobbyC ... Swiss Dinar paid 20+ to 1 back in 1993 if memory serves ...
BobbyC The IQD was flourishing back in the 50's as well. It will again
Sparky BobbyC ... I agree, simply by checking the history of the Dinar on the CBI website ...
UNEEK BobbyC Sparky it's really nice -- heck it's wonderful to have someone share their perspective and have a discussion on these articles -- thank you guys so much
BobbyC Our problem lies in the denominations. Dave submitted an article that talked about Delete the Zeros, although it was an op-ed, it spelled out a re denomination due to the high note value and count
BobbyC UNEEK Anytime. We should discuss articles and deal with the reality of our investment. All this other stuff has never ever, nor will it ever pan out. It's all about the economy and supporting the value of the IQD
Sparky ... support and sustain ...
BobbyC If Iraq were to "revalue" today or tomorrow or next year, they would be committing economic suicide and the IQD would not be accepted as a reserve currency
Sparky BobbyC ... yup, we have a few minutes to wait until they sort things out ...
BobbyC Sparky It's there for the taking. Now it's up to a politically based Iraq
Sparky ... security, stability, and a fully seated non-corrupt government ...
BobbyC Sparky Yep and this GOI is considered "transitional"
Sparky ... real Dinar talk, that's refreshing ... thanks Bobby ...
Sparky ... Abadi next PM ...?
BobbyC Sparky This is a fun investment as long as we talk about the basics. I'd love to see Abadi as PM. He was the original reformist and international darling when it came to fighting ISIS. Is he perfect? Nope. Now this PM has a chance but he has no political backing. Will he run? Who knows
Sparky ... Sistani can call the shots anytime he wants to ...
BobbyC Yep and he's the reason Abadi didn't get a 2nd Term. He said no more old school
BobbyC This new Election Law will change the face of Parliament but not how a PM is selected
Sparky ... Kadhimi, Mahdi haven't done anything but kick the can, after the real reformist Abadi was ousted after the riots ...
BobbyC Poor Mahdi lol. He was the Economist to lead Iraq to glory. Problem was he couldn't stay awake
Sparky BobbyC ... basics ... banking laws ...security and stability, fully seated government, out of CH 7, ie pay Kuwait...or is Kuwait waiting for the body locations ... mass graves ...
BobbyC Yep on a lot of those for sure. The missing persons and property was moved to Ch 6 (working committees)
Sparky BobbyC ... thanks, I didn't know that ...
BobbyC Sparky You betcha. Coffe set to go off at 4:45. Have a great rest of the night. Great discussions
Sparky BobbyC ... nice chatting with you ...
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