IQD CALLS Chat Saturday 11-30-19

IQD CALLS Chat Saturday 11-30-19

Sparky   ... so what I gather, Sustani wants Mahdi out... Iranian puppet,...and Pompeo talking sanctions against individuals involved with hurting protestors...seems like we are squeezing Iran in a big way... elimination of Iranian influence in Iraq, is our key...then...we rricccchhhh...

Doug_W   Go get them Iraq

chattels   Masoud Barzani: Iraq constitution changes must not undermine Kurdish rights

  https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/301120191

chattels   Iraqi constitutional reform may take aim at Kurdish autonomy

  https://www.rudaw.net/english/opinion/30112019

chattels   Iraqi protesters may nonetheless present Baghdad with another opportunity to encroach on Kurdish autonomy. Changing the constitution may give the government what it perceives as legal-moral authority to incorporate the Kurdish Peshmerga into the federal forces on security and stability claims.

Such a move would leave Iraqi Kurdistan without its greatest component of autonomy – its own military force. Optimists in the Kurdistan Region may hope that the civil unrest will force the central government in Baghdad to revisit Article 140 of the 2005 constitution and call for a new referendum over the status of Kirkuk province. However, the past twelve years indicates that such optimism is wishful thinking.

Dave   Howdyn folks   Wow.....interesting news day!

Dave   Mahdi resigns..Sadr appoints.Abadi to replace him.......

Dave   Could not find article in chattels posts

Sparky   Dave ...Abadi distancd himself from DAWA some time ago, I hoped this would occur

crazy crypto   seems a caretaker government is already in place

crazy crypto   see ya mahdi   ** **

Dave   Then I should post article,,,,not sure anybody reads my posts

Sparky   Dave ... I'll read the first five words...at least..lol...

Dave   Twilight News / announced close to the current leader of the Sadrist Moqtada al – Sadr on Saturday that the latter will prevent political parties and currents , including all of his movement to form the next government after the resignation of the current headed by Adel Abdul Mahdi.

Saleh Mohammed al-Iraqi gave details of a meeting he had with Sadr and published what took place between them on social networking sites “Facebook”, and tell the latter “I did not and will not allow the return of corrupt in another dress and other names and we will prevent all parties and currents as prevented (Sadrists) from interfering in the formation of the government Commission and its law. “

The Iraqi quoted Sadr as saying, “We will pressure them and their peaceful to the judiciary to hold the corrupt and robbery, although they claim to belong to us as well as those who are outside us.”

Simultaneously, Sadr’s position launched a victory coalition leader Haider al-Abadi initiative on the current situation in Iraq.

Abadi said in a statement today that “ the continuation of our previous initiatives, especially the comprehensive initiative on 17/11/2019, and to ensure a smooth transition of power, and the proper establishment of the interim phase and the resulting structures of the permanent phase, ”

Dave Firstly:   A) From 1/12/2010 to 15/12/2019, and pursuant to Article 61 of the Constitution, and at the request of the President of the Republic, the House of Representatives shall withdraw confidence from the current government. A new government is formed with limited ministries and independent personalities, and an independent person is assigned to head it and none of its members is nominated for the upcoming elections.

(B) The Prime Minister shall be obliged to select a civilian activist as a supporter to ensure that the demonstrators are represented and to attend the people’s demands to administer the interim phase.

Second: The new government is six months old, starting from 15/12/2019 and ending on 30/6/2020. What comes:

A) Fair amendments to the electoral law to ensure the breaking of the political monopoly and ensure the rise of new and young forces and elites.

B) Formation of an electoral commission completely independent of political parties and blocs.

C) Establishing election controls and mechanisms that guarantee the integrity and free will of voters.

D) General elections shall be held. All stages of the elections shall be conducted under international supervision through the United Nations.

Dave   Third:   The term of the three powers of the “interim” period expires on 30/6/2020. The newly elected Council of Representatives shall commence its work on 1/7/2020 and proceed with the procedures of forming the authorities in accordance with the Constitution.

B) The new government formed during the first six months of its life, in cooperation with the main authorities in the country and under a time limit not exceeding the year 2020 AD to establish binding paths for constitutional amendments and submitted to the referendum before the end of 2020.

The political system and its institutions are adapted on the basis of the results of the popularly approved referendum.

Fourth: The new elected government shall, within the first six months of its life, commit to setting decisive timetables for arms control by the state, to end any military or paramilitary presence outside the framework of state institutions, and to end the files of detainees, missing and absentees in all governorates of Iraq.

Fifth: The elected government is committed, within the first six months of its formation, to reforming the judiciary and resolving the main corruption files with the assistance of the UN mission and by using international expertise. The public shall be kept informed of the results first.

Sixth: All parties and elites participating and winning elections shall be legally bound by the constitution, law and national sovereignty to exercise them, undertake to reject, combat and criminalize terrorism, violence, takfir, sectarianism, corruption and organized crime,

and to prevent any weapon or military presence outside the rule of law, and to confine the powers to extend security and protect citizens by state authorities.

Commitment to civil and political rights and duties and the values ​​of peaceful coexistence and the right to peaceful expression; to promote and support legal, institutional and social security to protect the country and its people; and to reject violence and resort to arms

Dave   There is more.....

Dave   dont wish to eat up bandwidth

Sparky   Dave ... please continue..

Dave   Eighth: Gives confidence to the elected government on the basis of the political majority away from the sectarian component of the political system, and offers a program subject to periodic accountability, and the government is committed to develop comprehensive plans to modernize administrative and financial systems, and move towards automation, transition to e-government, and the adoption of international standards to evaluate the performance of institutions ,

The completion of the advancement of the integrated market economy, the establishment of the Al Ajyal Fund, the sovereign fund, the National Development Plan, the Iraq Vision 2030, the Poverty Reduction Strategy, the fight against unemployment, the activation of social security networks,

Expedite agricultural, industrial, commercial and banking, including the promotion of the advancement of the economic sectors of services, energy, transportation, information technology and communications, and the development of centers of administrative and professional skills of state institutions and beyond.

The elected government is committed, through comprehensive programs, to empowering youth and women in the political, economic, educational and development sectors, ensuring the rights of women and the rights of children, juveniles and the elderly and legislative protection for them, and emphasizing the implementation of the objectives of the law on the care of people with special needs.

Educational curricula in accordance with the educational development and to ensure the consolidation of the culture of coexistence and civic values ​​and national identity, and pay attention to culture, media, arts, sports and civil work The state and its society and facilities.

Ninth: The elected government and all the authorities of the country are obliged to provide legislative and societal protection to all Iraqi minorities of their religious, national and sectarian diversity, not to practice exclusion, marginalization or aggressio

Dave   Ninth: The elected government and all the authorities of the country are obliged to provide legislative and societal protection to all Iraqi minorities of their religious, national and sectarian diversity, not to practice exclusion, marginalization or aggression against them, and to ensure their compensation and return to their areas of residence, and respect their privacy.

Tenth: The elected government and all other authorities of the country shall abide by the requirements of Iraqi sovereignty, ensure the liberation of the Iraqi decision from any foreign domination or guardianship, and investigate cooperation and integration with the world on the basis of common interests in accordance with Iraqi interests and sovereignty.

Dave   Sadr announces banning all parties from forming the next government and Abadi launches an initiative

Sparky   Dave ...Imu, to continue reforms he previously started..

Dave   Sparky now with peeps dying in the streets like never before

Dave   Sadr dug his heels in this time?   or more yadda yadda?

Sparky   Dave ...yup, could be, after all, we're talking about Iraq...

Dave   QUOTA SYSTEM needs to go......

Dave   accountability before resuming seat?   or re election

Sparky   Dave ... something tells me, this time might be different..

Dave   Sparky sadr maybe fed up?

Dave   Now ironically he may be the leader of the party ,but has no seat

Sparky   Dave ...and Sistani ... dynamic duo...

Baxter   DOBBINS scores another TD... Ohio State 56... Michigan 27..... 6 min left

Sparky   Baxter ...yup, you called it Bax...by 30...

Baxter   yep

Dave   like I said not sure if peeps read news posts LOL

Baxter   you have a link for that dave

Dave   Baxter https://search4dinar.wordpress.com/

Sparky   Dave ...best Shi ite I recall reading..

Baxter   thx

Dave   3rd article down

Sparky   Dave ...lots of electoral rhetoric in that article...

Dave   “I did not and will not allow the return of corrupt in another dress and other names and we will prevent all parties and currents as prevented (Sadrists) from interfering in the formation of the government Commission and its law. “

Sparky   Dave ...yup... liking that statement...

Dave   Sam ....you figure Iraq maybe committed now in getting some implementation Done?

Dave   Sparky yeah gotta get those notes off the streets

Sparky   Dave ... security, stability, and a fully seated government...per Shabbibi...

Dave   Sparky as per any nation

Sam I Am   Dave I don't know what implementation you're referring to, but if you mean RV then no ... there's no RV coming. Maybe if inflation becomes an issue they're raise the value a few %, but the IQD will never be worth more than 1/10 of a penny even if Iraq is transformed into paradise overnight.

Sparky   Sam I Am ...are you sure ?

Dave   Sam I Am oh so you do not follow the news developments?

Sam I Am   Sparky YEP

Sam I Am   Dave No need. The money supply and the reserves are all you need

Sam I Am   It's simple math

Sparky   Sam I Am ... development will drive the value...imo...

Dave   Sam I Am How many fils for that coke?

Dave   a wheel barrows worth!

Sam I Am   Dave There are no fils

Sam I Am   don't know how many times I have to say that

Dave   EXACTLY

Sam I Am   they did away with fils years ago

Sam I Am   they only use fils as an accounting device

Sparky   Sam I Am ...filsadelphia...Pa...

Sparky   Sam I Am ... historically, they have used fils and LD's, ...when things finally settled down, they will again...imo...

Sparky   Sam I Am ...they are currently not even using their own currency...to the extent that they should be...

Sam I Am   Sparky That's true. They want to de-dollarize via redenomination

Sparky   Sam I Am ...that is fine with me, with gradual rise from go...triple my investment, easy...imo...

Dave   Sparky Sparky opinions not required if you follow CBI

Sparky   Dave ... I'm just thinking, this is nearly no lose situation... with patience...

Dave   Sparky CBI has a vision....the politicians only care for themselves...namely IMMUNITY

Sparky   Dave ... totally agree..

Sparky   Dave ...time for new young bloods...

Dave   thought that in last election with those technocrats....but that Quota system

Dave   Maliki remains King

Sparky   Dave ... I think noose may be tightened on that d bag...

Sparky   Dave ...his paid twerps will probably sell him down the river for a slice of pizza...if offered immunity from prosecution...

Sparky    Dave ... albeit a shi ite load of twerps...

Dave   --s2h

Sparky   Dave ... I have little patience for radical Muslims...

kevin311312   Dave thanks for the news that was great

Sparky   Dave ...kill the infidel... what type of crap is that...and whose God do they serve ?

Dave   Maliki aint the only one,,,,,,,,Many multi billionaires.......

Dave   Allawi Talabanis Najafi etc etc

Sparky   Dave ... probably mitigate, not eliminate corruption...

Sparky   Dave ... even that would be a huge step forward...

Dave   talking like ....ALL of them

Dave   Where did you get That!

Sparky   Dave ...yup... everyone's getting fat, except for the citizens...

Sparky   Dave ...oh, I stole it from the CBI...is that wrong ?

Sparky   Dave ... everyone else was doing it...blah blah blah...

Sparky   ... allocated project funds going straight into the pockets of the corrupt ministers...

Baxter   Yep

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IQD CALLS Chat Friday Night 11-29-19

IQD CALLS Chat Friday Night 11-29-19

Baxter   DID YOU KNOW.... that a stack of 18 billion dinars is 1200 miles high...?? DID YOU KNOW that a stack of 40 trillion dinars... is.....are you ready.... 2.7 MILLION MILES HIGH

Baxter   THATS the difference from billions.. to Trillions...

Dave    Baxter what of the USA deficit?

Baxter   well... if its 20 trillion.. it would be about 1.4 million miles high

Baxter   be half of that

Dave   Baxter 40 Trillion news from yrs ago......

Baxter   whys that

Dave   Baxter COI frozen120-150 billion USD........my calculator does not have that many zeros to convert

Baxter   mine doesnt either

Dave   Tons of dinar how high?????

Baxter   I just told you... one dinar notes... 18 billion... is 1200 miles high.... 40 trillion... is 2million 700 thousand miles high

Dave   Baxter what one dinar note

Baxter   yes

Baxter   or one dollar.. whats the difference

Baxter   about same thickness

Dave   from.00086

Dave   toilet paper worth more

Dave   each piece about the same....i prefer double ply

Dave   size and thickness

Baxter   maybe something will happen next year.... I kind of doubt it...but who knows

Dave   Baxter Did some checking on S Korea though

Dave   Hyundai only makes 1.6 units a yr.....,.Iraq pumps 5-6 million units per day

Dave   average wage in S Korea 4-5 times more than Iraq

Dave   S Korea double the population and a quarter the size

Baxter   Oh... I can believe that.. Iraqis make about 4-500 a month...

Dave   Koreans most educated peeps on the planet

Dave    Have a reliable power grid and sanitation

Dave   Korea has little else other than rice

Baxter   that wasnt my point dave.. my point was... the south korean currency is worth a tenth of a penny.. just like Iraqs... and they are getting along just fine.... and Im sure they dont use wheelbarrows to go to the grocery store...

Baxter   they just held the world olympics... their cars are now built all over the world..and they are a thriving economy

Baxter   all on a tenth of a penny

Dave   Baxter compare Saudis currency to Kuwait

Dave   1 South Korean Won =  0.0011 Canadian Dollar

Baxter   thats probably about right

Dave   Saudi .25.....? ish

Baxter   yes.. but how much is out there??

Dave   Baxter Only Kap knows fer sure

Dave   CBI taking it in one door and out the other to pay staff in Dinar.....

Baxter   amount of reserve currency... and the amount of money supply has a direct impact on the value

Baxter   the money supply is what is killing Iraq... they went from 18 billion before the war.. to over 40 trillion....

Dave   Baxter What CBI takens in each month for the last 2 yrs.......

Dave   40 trillion easy......

Baxter   the cbi... puts that dinar right back out and cycles it again... it is not kep

Baxter   kept

Dave   Baxter Thats right it goes to pay staff???????

Dave   Baxter you know that

Dave   ?

Baxter   there is still trillions of dinar out there.....

Dave   according to whom?

Baxter   the cbi for one... they put out reports every once in a while

Dave   Baxter seen it.......

Dave   shot holes in that

Baxter   well.. Im gonna go have supper.... will be back later..

Dave   Baxter enjoy

spankie   how much in circulation and the other would be what countries hold

spankie   not that much in circulation- not 40 tril

spankie   korean money prolly good investment

TWWIII   I never do Black Friday, never. So I saw silver at 17.11 today, when to the place I buy my rounds & grams & they had a Black Friday sale. Only 2 of us there. But I bought my rounds at 16.33 so I bought several. NOT A BAD PRICE.

TWWIII   spankie I hav SKW as weli

spankie   they cannot stay low forever

TWWIII   I agree, cant

spankie   need to go on a buying spree for property in south korea

TWWIII   hummmmmmmm

spankie   friend from church wanted wife and i to go w to s korea-- time was not right but wanted to go

spankie   go to a korean church - nice people-

spankie   is it not better to buy silver coins and jewelry

spankie   or too much work

TWWIII   spankie I think silver Rounds & Grams is the best way to buy silver. I have done that over the past 20+ yrs, always made a profit when the market was good to sell

Dave   TWWIII should check out ebay for silver coins....10 bucks for a roll of silver DIMES

TWWIII   Dave Ebay prices are way higher market, I check daily. $25+ for a round, no way & some plus shipping

Dave   TWWIII used to buy alot of cdn coins on ebay for way less than melt price

TWWIII   Here we no longer have melting avail unless I drive all the to Seattle

Dave   purchased many coins from ebay.......never paid more than 50% of melt value

TWWIII   Dave Keep buying on Ebay, just not my 1st choice

Dave TWWIII took some work and time yes....

Dave   figured if i could quadruple my purchase i did well

*TWWIII   Dave Yrs ago I got good prices on Ebay like 1909vbs pennies for abt .35 each before sellers were selling for less than today, merk dimes, etc

Dave   TWWIII Been collecting old silver coins since i was a paper boy

TWWIII   Dave I sold a batch of silver abt 6yrs when silver hit $50 oz that I was buying in the 90's & early 2000., I sold most of mine then

Dave   TWWIII hehe thats what i am waiting for

TWWIII   It will happen again, I have been stud'ing TRENDS since the 70's & have done quite well.

Dave   silver seems to be stuck

Dave   wanna see 20.00 may sell some

TWWIII   Silver most of the follows gold rates. Like today Gold dropped & silver abt the same %age

Dave   silver way more utilized

Dave   under valued still

TWWIII   If the market has a major drop, ir be easier to barter with Grams of silver vs grams of Gold especially for food & other commodities.

Dave   heck i just like hoarding silver.....

Dave   Dad collected coins......genetics maybe

TWWIII   I do the same with other items +_ silver

Baxter   VERY INTERESTING READ: Something is seriously starting to break in China's financial system.

Three days after we described the self-destructive doom loop that is tearing apart China's smaller banks, where a second bank run took place in just two weeks –

an unprecedented event for a country where until earlier this year not a single bank was allowed to fail publicly and has now had no less than five bank high profile nationalizations/bailouts/runs so far this year - the Chinese bond market is bracing itself for an unprecedented shock: a major, Fortune 500 Chinese commodity trader is poised to become the biggest and highest profile state-owned enterprise to default in the dollar bond market in over two decades.

In what Bloomberg dubbed the latest sign that Beijing is more willing to allow failures in the politically sensitive SOE sector - either that, or China is simply no longer able to control the spillovers from its cracking $40 trillion financial system - commodity trader Tewoo Group - the largest state-owned enterprise in China's Tianjin province - has offered an "unprecedented" debt restructuring plan that entails deep losses for investors or a swap for new bonds with significantly lower returns.

Baxter   Tewoo Group is a SOE conglomerate, owned by the local government and operates in a number of industries including infrastructure, logistics, mining, autos and ports, according to its website. It also operates in multiples countries including the U.S., Germany, Japan and Singapore.

The company ranked 132 in 2018’s Fortune Global 500 list, higher than many other Chinese conglomerates including service carrier China Telecommunications and financial titan Citic Group.

Even more notable are the company's financials: it had an annual revenue of $66.6 billion, profits of about $122 million, assets worth $38.3 billion, and more than 17,000 employees as of 2017, according to Fortune’s website

Baxter   EVIDENTLY... some of Trumps sanctions... are working...

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IQD CALLS Chat Early Friday 11-29-19

IQD CALLS Chat Early Friday 11-29-19

chattels   Abadi calls for the resignation of the current government

Thursday 28 November 18:54 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=799652

chattels   Sadr calls on the government to resign immediately and the demonstrators to continue to demonstrate /  expanded

Thursday 28 November 18:26 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=799647

chattels   Urgent in the light of developments in Dhi Qar .. An emergency session of the parliament next Sunday

Release date:: 2019/11/28 21:54 http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=84922

chattels   Urgent Presidency of Parliament: Next week will see a vote on the election and commission

Release date:: 2019/11/28 22:00 http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=84924

chattels   Abdul Mahdi directs the investigation into the events that took place today in Najaf and Dhi Qar

Date: Editing:: 28/11/2018 22:45 • http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=84927

chattels   The provinces of Dhi Qar and Najaf witnessed on Thursday, clashes between the security forces and demonstrators led to the fall of a large number of martyrs and wounded between the two sides.

chattels   In Iraq, 32 killed in Nasiriya City today. http://mobp.as/qNF9p

chattels   In Iraq, governor of Dhi Qar Province submits his resignation.

chattels   Courtesy of https://twitter.com/DavidMWitty1?lang=en

chattels   Iraq clamps down on media and broadcast networks covering protests

Mustafa Saadoun November 28, 2019

 Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraq-protests-media.html#ixzz66d5mtbTm

Futuremoney   looks like PM Mahdi is going to resign

spankie   futuremoney with mahdi and all the other bandits gone we will have better chances on the iqd- too much Iran- and hang Maliki to show the people there is change

futuremoney   I don't think anything will change

spankie   specially if Iran is in charge- maliki still there shows this

spankie   as usual we wait

Dave   Howdy Folks....any Real good news?

Dave   Mahdi and others resigned today?

Doug_W   if not today USA Soon Dave

Dave   USA wants Iraq to go after the corrupt.....How

Doug_W    hey it is what it is~~

Dave   i know we are on the same page.....esp regarding all this corruption

Dave   politicians dancing around it

Dave   while protesters are getting killed

Dave   postpone and delay is their MO

Dave   futuremoney Well?..... Doug defers to you...

Dave   USA urges Jobs, ending the Quota system and do sumthin with the corruption

Francis Albert   In my experience of studying the monetary system for more years than most of you brothers and sisters have been on Planet Earth, we know one thing. All politics is performance art. Thus, all of the infighting, Right/Left, impeachment stuff is aimed at keeping our eyes off of the ball.

Dave    the COI has frozen 120-150 billion usd.......Thats a few dinar tied up toward this note count.........

Francis Albert   And the ball, IMO, is the Dollar Inc. Brand. Those who control most all things economically i.e. IMF, World Bank, BIS, all Central Banks except Russia, N. Korea and China...are owned and operated by Dollar Inc. It is quite the brand indeed. And their only concern is not loosing market share, which they haven't in a long time.

Dave   Francis Albert Thought is all about Iraq?

Dave   Francis Albert iraq has had no market share for decades

Francis Albert   Another Thus IMO. All these bloggers, pundits, economic gurus predicting the "Demise of the Dollar." "Market Collapse", "Reset" blah blah are just dialing for customers. Fear and destruction sells. I encourage you not to buy into it. And be grateful, very grateful, when this investment comes through, you will have an opportunity to exchange the IQD for good ole' Federal Reserve Notes. Fiat? Of course, but they are the cleanest dirty shirt in the laundry. May the blessings be.

Dave   I only know of what CBI has stated....

Dave   Recollect Sanction Rate Vs Reality Rate convos over the many yrs

Dave   WTO talks of Iraq dropping this chunky money?

Francis Albert   Dave - Iraq. IMO Iraq is totally controlled by The Dollar Inc. crowd and sometimes President Trump does what they want. And "They" want a strong, vibrant, healthy Iraq for they have spent Trillions setting Iraq up for the ultimate possession to keep an eye on all things Middle East. Priceless.

Dave   Francis Albert i agree in part

Dave   USA did spend alot bombing Iraq into obscurity looking for weapons of mass destruction]

Dave   and then setting up Maliki.......

Dave   We covered this previously numerous time did we not SAM?

Dave   times

Young_SC   Dave where has kap been?

crazy crypto   actually francis i disagree with the fiat approach that is what has gotten us into this mess we are in

Young_SC   Still preaching the too much dinar in circulation slogan or no?

crazy crypto   their MUST be an alternative hence the talks of digital currency from many countries

Dave   the stuff he throws at that barn door doe not seem to stick very well here i suppose

Dave   does

crazy crypto   even facebook is tryin to get a headstart on launching the libra

crazy crypto     these corporations all know ahead of time what is coming

Dave   Young_SC yeah kap states those Trillions in dinar collected at the auctions are stuffed in envelopes to pay staff

Dave   Thought they created those Q cards for that

Francis Albert   Well, you may "disagree" with the fiat model, but with respect, get used to it because it just isn't going anywhere anytime soon. And anyone who says it is, is selling something or just doesn't understand the current system, it's history etc.

crazy crypto   I agree it wont completely go away but i think our system needs a major overhaul on how the fed handles money and how countries value their wealth and currency and i believe that is coming when trump wins again in 2020

crazy crypto   in my opinion

crazy crypto   true

crazy crypto   cant print our way to prosperity and the fed knows this

Francis Albert   I appreciate your enthusiasm for wanting a strong currency, Trump does this, and he wouldn't be able to leave the White House and have three food tasters. hahha Not happening.

Francis Albert    They can continue to print until they run out of zeros. Or folks refuse the dollar. And to this day, with all the money being dumped in, with repos etc. The world is buying treasuries at a brisk pace and China continues to hold U.S. debt, 1.2 Trillion

crazy crypto    they already are more and more countries are turning away from the dollar

crazy crypto   where ave u been?

Francis Albert   They are not interested in prosperity, that is what most of you idealist miss, they are only interested in retaining control of the World's reserve currency

Francis Albert    Let's not get snarky Crazy....I've been here and I know the dollar hasn't lost market share even with some Countries snubbing the dollar.

crazy crypto    doesnt mean it is happening

Dave   Just checked out IQDteams news for today...........re..reads the same from 10 yrs ago ..........NO Changes yet in Iraq.....still discussing same issues.......

Baxter   well... at least we arent going backwards... LOL

Dave   tells me if they were not rady for this 10 yrs ago......they are no futher along

Dave   ready

Baxter   whats another ten years....

Dave   lots of peeps getting killed now and its not the sectarian stuff this time

Dave   they are after the politicians

Baxter   DID YOU KNOW.... that a stack of 18 billion dinars is 1200 miles high...?? DID YOU KNOW that a stack of 40 trillion dinars... is.....are you ready.... 2.7 MILLION MILES HIGH

Baxter   THATS the difference from billions.. to Trillions...

Dave   Baxter what of the USA deficit?

Baxter   well... if its 20 trillion.. it would be about 1.4 million miles high

Baxter   be half of that

Dave    Baxter 40 Trillion news from yrs ago......

Baxter   whys that

Dave   Baxter COI frozen120-150 billion USD........my calculator does not have that many zeros to convert

Baxter   mine doesnt either

Dave   Tons of dinar how high?????

Baxter   I just told you... one dinar notes... 18 billion... is 1200 miles high.... 40 trillion... is 2million 700 thousand miles high

Dave   Baxter what one dinar note

Baxter   yes

Baxter   or one dollar.. whats the difference

Baxter   about same thickness

Dave   from.00086

Baxter   maybe something will happen next year.... I kind of doubt it...but who knows

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IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 11-28-19

IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 11-28-19

chattels   Iraq PM says ‘mistakes happen’ after UN slams protest abuses https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/271120192

chattels   ERBIL, Kurdistan Region – Adil Abdul-Mahdi, the embattled Iraqi prime minister, admitted human rights violations have occurred during Iraq’s nationwide protests, claiming “mistakes happen”, after a new UN report called for restraint.

chattels   Protesters say the masked men who routinely fire upon them are Iran-backed militiamen, not regular Iraqi security personnel.

chattels   Curfew imposed in Iraq’s Najaf after protesters set fire to Iran’s consulate https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/271120193

chattels   Following weeks of unrest across central and southern Iraq, Najaf’s authorities responded to Wednesday night’s violence by imposing a curfew.

This is not the first time Iraqi protesters have attacked an Iranian consulate. On November 4, demonstrators set fire to Tehran’s mission in Karbala.

chattels   US top military official in Baghdad to ‘reassure’ Iraq of strategic partnership https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/28112019

chattels   Mark A. Milley, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff visited the Iraqi defense ministry on Wednesday to conduct two official meetings with the Iraqi Defense Minister Najah al-Shammari and the Army’s Chief of Staff.

Milley was accompanied by the US ambassador and the Commander of the US-led Combined Joint Task Force - Operation Inherent Resolve, which fights the Islamic State (ISIS).

The US embassy in Baghdad released a statement on Thursday morning confirming the visit to discuss the “strategic partnership” between the US and Iraq, as well as the security environment in Iraq and the wider Middle East.

chattels   Regarding the protests, Milley “denounced” the cycle of violence permeating the demonstrations, especially killing, kidnapping of protesters and activists, and threats to freedom of expression.

“Milley reiterated the United States’ support for the Iraqi people as they stand up for a free, independent, and sovereign Iraq, unhindered by corruption and malign foreign influence,” the statement concluded.

chattels   ISIS cells remains active in the western province of Anbar and disputed territories despite being formally defeated in Mosul in July 2017.

chattels   In Iraq, governor of Dhi Qar Province calls on PM to remove Lieutenant General Jamil Shamri from the province for causing the deaths & injures of protesters. The general arrived in the province last night.

chattels   In Iraq, military crises cells formed to impose order in provinces to be under command of governors. Iran condemns burning of Iranian Consulate in Najaf & says ISIS members dressed as Iraqis & supported by US are responsible for violence in protests. http://mobp.as/Xpv9p

chattels   In Dhi Qar Province, Iraq, 16 protesters killed & 152 injured in Nasiriya when security forces fire from Zaytun Bridge in early morning confrontation today. Curfew imposed.

chattels   Iraqi PM’s Office denies reports that martial law has been established in some provinces.

chattels   Foregoing courtesy of https://twitter.com/DavidMWitty1?lang=en

chattels   Escalation in Nasiriyah. Protesters burn Rapid Response Forces HQ this morning after last night's violent crackdown that killed more than 10 protesters.

chattels   #BREAKING 8 protesters killed in Nassiriya, southern Iraq before dawn

Govt appoints 'crisis cells' jointly headed by governors and military men to stem unrest

Najaf still under curfew after Iran embassy torched

chattels   Foregoing courtesy of https://twitter.com/JoelWing2

chattels   Protesters can block roads & burn tires forever, but this ruling class isn't going to just pack their bags & leave. Parliament has always been the most anti-reform part of the system & if things are going to progress there needs to be more calibrated pressure on it.

chattels   Just finished watching Abd al-Mahdi's most recent presentation. This is the calmest man in the middle of a storm in history. He welcomes the UN's comments on Iraq's abuses but strikes me as speaking as if he were an outside observer himself at times.

chattels   Foregoing courtesy of https://twitter.com/UticaRisk

chattels   Protests spread in oil-rich Basra as death toll rises

Shelly Kittleson November 26, 2019

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraq-basra-protests.html#ixzz66ZhqKvnj

chattels   Iraq clamps down on media and broadcast networks covering protests

Mustafa Saadoun November 28, 2019

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraq-protests-media.html#ixzz66Zhw1wlY

chattels   Parliamentary Finance: Parliament has not received the budget next year from the government so far

Thursday 28 November 09:26 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=799539

chattels   BAGHDAD / NINA / Rapporteur of the parliamentary Finance Committee Ahmed al-Saffar: "The budget for next year is still with the government has not received by the parliament so far."

chattels   Continued stability of dollar exchange rates in local markets

Wednesday 27 November 13:09 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=799414

chattels   The Central Bank sells more than / 202 / million dollars in the currency auction

Wednesday 27 November 13:42 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=799425

chattels   Parliamentary finance likely to pass the 2020 budget if the final agreement between the governments of Baghdad and the region

Release date:: 2019/11/27 20:01 • http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=84890

chattels   "There is another meeting next week and I think there will be an agreement between the two sides and will be finalized with the preparation of the draft budget law next week."

chattels   On the importance of the agreement of the federal government and the Kurdistan Regional Government with the budget legislation in the House of Representatives, Mirza said, "The agreement will facilitate the budget legislation within the House of Representatives, and this is linked to the opinion of parliamentary blocs and do not imagine that the budget will face difficulties within the House of Representatives if sent to us including the final agreement Between the two sides. "

chattels   Historically Kurds are always more hopeful about a budget agreement than Baghdad and or reality.

chattels   Kurdistan region.Committee member Sherwan Mirza,

chattels   Parliamentary source: Baghdad and the region sign next Sunday an agreement on the 2020 budget

Date: 2019/11/27 13:40 • http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=84874

chattels   We shall see.

chattels   My house guests have arisen. Time to feed up. Have a blessed day all.

JoeSchmoe   any news on the dinar front today?

JoeSchmoe   any hope on the horizon?

Wheresmyrv?   maybe we will get lucky and get an RV today lol

JoeSchmoe   pfft

JoeSchmoe   as my bank account slowly dwindles into non existence

Wheresmyrv?   never in my life have I thought that this would drag on for this long

JoeSchmoe   wonder if mr frees is celebrating this taking this long...

JoeSchmoe   him and booby are throwing a party

chattels   Resettled Arabs confiscate Kurdish farmlands in Kirkuk https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/281120192

Chattels   Sadr: Failure to resign immediately means the beginning of the end of Iraq https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/middleeast/iraq/2811201915

Goofus   11-27-2019 Intel Guru Bruce:

Goofus   I’m hearing this could be an excellent/happy Thanksgiving for us ...we are in a window right now...What I’ve got is from 9 PM tonight (Tues night) ...all the way to Friday morning 9 AM...Now that means we could be notified anytime within that window and get started...

we heard it from several sources that were unrelated – at least 3 or 4 sources that were getting that information...Now, we have information from Redemption Centers that says that they are ready for long days 22 hour days, starting Friday, Saturday and maybe a little less like 18 on Sunday –

Is it possible that we receive a toll free number on Thanksgiving day and set appointments for the next day, Friday, which is Black Friday – I think it’s not only possible but maybe probable...I think we are still very strong for the next few days – very strong.++

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IQD CALLS Chat Early Wednesday 11-27-19

IQD CALLS Chat Early Wednesday 11-27-19

Biff   SRU : "Legal Tender Act in South Carolina" 11-27-19

The Legal Tender Act Seeks To Use Silver And Gold As Money In South Carolina

Silver Report Uncut: Nov 27, 2019

The Legal Tender Act Seeks To Use Silver And Gold As Money In South Carolina. H. 4678 under the proposed law gold and silver coin shall be legal Tender in South Carolina.

This effectively creates competition with federal reserve notes. Over time people who use gold and silver in banking will see that their purchasing power is preserved over time while holding Federal Reserve notes they will find a depreciating asset.

This is a big step toward enacting the new gold standard in the US. The states move to abolish the Fed by creating a competing currency.

biff   Will it work

Doug_W   states can not override feds sooo

Baxter   There is most definately changes being made to our currency....

Baxter   how soon... who knows

Wilder Baxter I seen yesterday will you post about all the dinar in circulation what are your feelings about that

Baxter   my feelings are... that the reserve currency plus the amount of currency in circulation... reflects the price of the currency in value.... before the war... there was about 19 billion dinar in the world.. thus the value was at over 3 dollars... but.. after the war.. they went to over 40 trillion... which took the value down to a tenth of cent..due to the amount of currency out there

Wilder   This voice messaging doesnt type what I say. This phone.

Wilder   Don't want to sound negative about it but it kind of damperns my hopes

Baxter   The height of a stack of 1,000,000,000,000 (one trillion) one dollar bills measures 67,866 miles. This would reach more than one fourth the way from the earth to the moon. NOW MULTIPLY THAT TIMES 40

Baxter   THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 2.7 TRILLION MILES

Wilder   And all this time I was looking for an increase in dollars not miles

Baxter   now... thats wrong.. it would be 2.7 MILLION MILES

Baxter   thats how high the dollar stack would be

Baxter   WOW... is it ever blowing here..... crazy winds

Baxter   and I live in a woods....

Larrykn   Iraq protesters block roads to press for sweeping reforms https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44814/Iraq-protesters-block-roads-to-press-for-sweeping-reforms

larrykn   Six protesters in Baghdad killed in 24 hours, officials https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44815/Six-protesters-in-Baghdad-killed-in-24-hours-officials

larrykn   Iraqi forces destroy ISIS hideout in Kirkuk https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44817/Iraqi-forces-destroy-ISIS-hideout-in-Kirkuk

Larrykn   security forces close Baghdad office of Dijlah TV broadcaster https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44819/security-forces-close-Baghdad-office-of-Dijlah-TV-broadcaster

larrykn   l-Rafidain announces loans for the construction and marketing of residential complexes in the provinces

Banks   Economy News – Baghdad   Rafidain Bank announced Wednesday that it has granted loans to build and build a number of residential investment projects in the provinces.

"A number of projects have been financed and marketed and attracted many companies and investors who want to cooperate with the bank for the purpose of obtaining these loans," the bank's information office said in a statement.

"The residential complexes that have been financed and marketed for the purpose of building housing for citizens are the Diwan residential complex in Mosul, the Pearl Sawa complex in Muthanna, the Al-Kuther residential complex in Babylon, the Al-Walon residential complex in Jalwala, the Bab al-Nasiriyah residential complex in Nasiriyah, the City of Peace complex in Najaf al-Ashraf, the complex of the city of Salam in Najaf," he said. Babel Residential Land in Babylon - Jabal Amel Residential Complex in Diwaniyah - Al-Amal Residential Complex in Basra - Doha Housing Complex in Muthanna - Al-Zuqoura Residential Complex in Nasiriyah - Al-Aziz Residential Complex in Nasiriyah - Al-Nasayya Residential Complex in Nasiriyah - Besan Residential Complex in Nasiriyah. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18346

Wilder   I wonder if those loans are in Iraq dinar or in US dollar.

Baxter   good question

Wilder   Zillow says housing market will open up after “Silver Tsunami. (Whatever that means) https://www.housingwire.com/articles/zillow-says-housing-market-will-open-up-after-silver-tsunami/

crazy crypto   Zillow also says a crash is coming in furst quarter 2020

crazy crypto   actualy predicted it a year ago

crazy crypto   and now they recently have came out again

crazy crypto   does zillow have insider info?

Wilder   Your asking a plumber? All i know is crap still runs downhill. : )

Baxter   GOOD... our power just came back on...

Wilder   Baxter that's good now you don't have to eat raw turkey

Baxter   yep

Wilder   crazy crypto what are your thoughts on the silver market?

TWWIII   The Silver Tsunami (also known as Grey Tsunami, Gray Tsunami, Silver Wave, Gray Wave, or Grey Wave) is a metaphor used to describe population aging. The silver tsunami metaphor has been used in popular media and in scholarly literature[1][2][3]

to refer to the late-twentieth century demographic phenomenon of population aging in major media platforms including The Economist,[4]

Forbes.com,[5] and multiple news outlets.[6][7]

The phrase has also been used to refer more specifically to health and economic implications associated with population aging by major medical publications including The British Medical Journal,[8]

New England Journal of Medicine,[9] and professional organizations including American Psychological Association.[10]    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Silver_Tsunami

Doug_W   Silver:$17.08

Doug_W   we do not need to be discussing amounts I think its unsafe

TWWIII   wow

TWWIII   yes

TWWIII   never used that before

kevin311312   BAGHDAD (AP) — Anti-government protesters burned down the Iranian consulate building in southern Iraq on Wednesday, while six protesters were killed by security forces who fired live rounds amid ongoing violence in the country, Iraqi officials said Wednesday.

Protesters torched the Iranian consulate in the holy city of Najaf in the evening. One protester was killed and at least 35 people were wounded when police fired live ammunition to prevent them from entering the building, a police official said.

The demonstrators removed the Iranian flag from the building and replaced it with an Iraqi one. Iranian staff were not harmed and escaped the building from the back door and authorities imposed a curfew in Najaf. The official spoke on condition of anonymity in line with regulations.

kevin311312   get out iran

Dave   kevin311312 seems the politicians are yet to address the corruption issue....protesters may have to ramp it up

Baxter   MY QUOTE FOR THE DAY; IF you had invested 45000 dollars in Apple stock in 1998... it would be worth 12.5 million dollars today...... DINAR anyone??

Dave   Baxter but there is not enough cash around to pay out all those Apple investors if they wished to cash out?

Baxter   probably not

Dave   just giving you the gears

Dave   or first gear to start

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IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Evening 11-26-19

IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Evening 11-26-19

Chattels   BAGHDAD / NINA / Parliamentary Finance Committee held a joint meeting this afternoon with the Governor of the Central Bank Ali al-Allaq and the Director General of the Tax Authority to discuss the mechanisms of auction currency sale. https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=799221

chattels   BAGHDAD / NINA / The stability of the dollar exchange rates on the stock market struggle and local markets, on Tuesday (November 26, 2019).

The prices of the Stock Exchange struggle - Baghdad 120.650 dinars per 100 dollars. https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=799173

Dave   thats bettter....seeing no enthusiasm regarding an eminate RV

Baxter   ARE YOU KIDDING.... PTR says we will be DONE by Dec 20th

Dave   even chattels....gosh... dumbstruck

Baxter   Looks like Im gonna lose my bet...

Dave   that still a good thing

Baxter   OH... I would LOVE to lose my bet

Dave   fingers crossed......now rthere is some enthusiasm

Baxter   you betcha... Im counting on it

Dave   great

Dave   almost got busted.........wife asked what is this dinar stuff about

Baxter   HA... be careful

Dave   she has no idea

Baxter   your wife may put you away in a cell somewhere... mine thinks Im nuts

Dave   hardly ever enters my pit

Dave   thought I was going to surprise her 10 yrs ago with something special

Baxter   Dec 21st.. you can surprise her

Dave   me first......."WHERE DID YOU GET THAT?"

Baxter   get what?

Dave   new lexus

Zig   Baxter : Did PTR give out the rate?.....I am hoping it will be at least $3.00.....

Baxter   ZIG....no.. they didnt

Dave   at the very least

Baxter   Oh... I get id Dave... it took me a minute

Dave   wanna contractor rate

Baxter   but they have always stated it would be more than what it was before....How that is possible.. I havent a clue

Baxter   a currency rate is basically based on the countries reserve amount and money supply... IMO..

Zig   Baxter : OMG....you sound like Sam.....lol

Dave   Baxter something aboot dropping 3 zeros, and restoring the IQD

Baxter   when it was over 3 dollars.. there was only 18 billion dinar in the world... now there is over 40 trillion

Dave   Baxter HEHE

Baxter   ZIG... I believe he is right on that part

Dave   Baxter Something aboot currency actions

Dave   4 trillion a month lately

Dave   Baxter with at least 50% of their work force working for the Govt.........thats alot of cash to stuff in envelopes when the monthly average salary is 50K as per our notable authority

Dave   fractional banking.....those poor folks are just all qued up writing mortgages

Doug_W   hey LARRY WB

Dave   as per last chat with our resident authority .......Importers must exchange through CBI......CBI now in the Import/export business? And importers need to pay to sell their goods,,,,,should it not be the other way around?

Dave    am so....CONFUSED...hoping for a GCR Dec 21st

Dave   have I missed yet another boat?

Doug_W   Dave does tat mean ur up the creek with NO paddle then?

Dave   pretty much...live on an Island need a boat

Doug_W   oh well....

Dave   oh well what?

Doug_W   just "Oh well...."

Dave   deep subject ...yes

Doug_W   can B

Dave   1 dont float very well

Baxter   3 DEADLY Bomb Blasts in Baghdad today... killing many... final death toll still unknown...

Baxter   according to Fox News..just now

Baxter   300,000 still rioting in the streets...

Baxter   but oh... we gonna RV...... LOL.. OMG

Zig   From a "Frank26" conference call in late December....2011....Yes, 2011........"They are doing it now, Family!…They are releasing the new currency to the Iraqi citizens... They have told the citizens that the US dollar must be removed out of circulation immediately."

Doug_W   Silver:$17.19

futuremoney   who cares

JoeSchmoe   Doug_W so a little bird told me that the guys over at DP give this thing about an 80% chance of ever happening.....

JoeSchmoe   why don't they just sell what they have and leave their opinions on the curb?

Baxter   JOE....80% is pretty strong

JoeSchmoe   Baxter of NEVER happening

Baxter    well that aint so good

JoeSchmoe   NEVER....EVER same thing

JoeSchmoe   in the context of the phrase

Dave   JoeSchmoe DP stated that?

JoeSchmoe   Dave dinar perspectives

Baxter   Then we had better Hope... that the GCR Idea prevails

Dave   yes

JoeSchmoe   bobby cahill's group

Dave   JoeSchmoe never heard that from their calls

Doug_W   JoeSchmoe how long have U been in this?

JoeSchmoe   Doug_W 10 years

Doug_W   then U have heard "opinions" before

Dave   never heard 80% of ever happening

Dave   on a call

JoeSchmoe   Dave this little bird told me that they are and have been very down on this thing for quite some time

Dave   call

Doug_W   not that I have seen quite the opposite

JoeSchmoe   Doug_W well then I wonder where this little bird got his info, cuz i trust this guy

Baxter   what nonsense

Dave   JoeSchmoe have yet to see any bills ever passed......other than their traffic laws.....

Doug_W   Bobby himself comes in

Doug_W   as does Kaleigh

JoeSchmoe   Doug_W never seen them here

Doug_W   I think there is some mis info floating around IF they were as UR describing I would have left

JoeSchmoe   and for the record, I think Kaleigh is more upbeat on this

Doug_W   JoeSchmoe different names

JoeSchmoe   Doug_W so being from DP over there, can you say they never said this 80% chance of ever/never happening?

Dave   JoeSchmoe i have not

Doug_W   I can only say I have not heard nor seen that

JoeSchmoe   and I am sure it comes from frustrration......but if you are an admin of a dinar group.....I mean, cmon

Clay   13 Killed Sunday in One of ‘Worst’ Days of Iraqi Protests https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/11/25/13-killed-sunday-one-worst-days-iraqi-protests/

Baxter   Had 3 huge bombings in Baghdad today Clay

Dave   DEC 21.........

JoeSchmoeis   ?

Young_SC   RENO!!!!

Dave   RV

JoeSchmoe   4 days before xmas

Baxter   shhh dave..... thats our secret... LOL

Dave   ooops

Young_SC   LETS ALL HEAD TO RENO LOL

Baxter   I have been to RENO... aint much there

JoeSchmoe   well....it IS that time of the dinar year for all the santa predictions to come out

Baxter   JOE>. it sure is

JoeSchmoe   here we go, that little bird texted me this post from Bobby. interpret for yourselves....

JoeSchmoe  1st cup of coffee so here we go. I personally, first and foremost, look for things that are preventing this from happening. Once I know my position on that, I then take the positives that keep me thinking this could happen.

Once the positives catch up, or outweigh the negatives, I'll get excited about this. Right now we're at a 80% negative to a 20% positive. EVERYTHING about next year, or at least the 1st 6 months, will hinge on the Budget and that's a fact jack!

Today's Iraq is in a 69 Chevy with a 396, Fuelie heads and a Hurst on the floor(Springsteen) wide open heading for a brick wall. If they continue with the most current 45 day reform deadline, we're screwed.

 I could go on and on but I'd love for someone to change my mind. Again, I look for things/issues that stop this from happening but the 20% good is still out there

Doug_W   but the 20% good is still out there

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IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 11-26-19

IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 11-26-19

Francis Albert    One would simply not be paying attention not to see some extremely positive happenings every day. I am betting the farm significant up tick in the Dinar price before years end. I have no secret sources, just a good gut.

Doug_W   Silver:$17.02

larryknKRG, Iraqi government reach initial 2020 oil-for-budget deal https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/25112019

larrykn  Three Iraqi soldiers, civilian killed in ISIS attack in Jalawla: Asayesh major https://www.rudaw.net/en/isis-attack-jawawla

larrykn   KRG delegation to revisit Baghdad on Monday for budget, oil talks https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/241120192

larrykn   Protesters Block Highways in Iraq’s Basra https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44801/Protesters-Block-Highways-in-Iraq-s-Basra

larrykn   Iraqi protesters block roads, bridges in southern city of Najaf https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44802/Iraqi-protesters-block-roads-bridges-in-southern-city-of-Najaf

larrykn   28 policemen injured during protests, MP house set on fire in Dhi Qar https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44804/28-policemen-injured-during-protests-MP-house-set-on-fire-in-Dhi-Qar

larrykn   At Least 13 Killed, Dozens Wounded in Iraq Protests https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44805/At-Least-13-Killed-Dozens-Wounded-in-Iraq-Protests

larrykn   Iraqis hold fresh anti-government protests https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44806/Iraqis-hold-fresh-anti-government-protests

larrykn   General Electric plans to establish an academy in Iraq

 Energy  Economy News – Baghdad   General Electric plans to establish the GE NetworkS Academy in Iraq to train graduates and engineers.

Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi met with GE CEO Jerome Bekres and his delegation, according to a statement issued by the prime minister's office on Monday.

The prime minister "confirmed his support for the company's projects in the electricity sector, including the (transport networks) project, which the Iraqi government intends to accelerate this year, which includes the construction and rehabilitation of 23 secondary stations with a capacity of 400/132 and 132/33 and mobile stations," the statement added.

The government is seeking to create more than 3,000 jobs in secondary station projects and transportation networks across Iraq in cooperation with the US company, the statement said.

The statement said That General Electric will "help to remove bottlenecks and support the network to improve the delivery of electricity to more than four million homes across Iraq, as well as inject significant resources into the local economy through secondary contracts for implementation."

GE Renewable Energy CEO Jerome Bekres revealed the company's intention to establish the GE NetworkS Academy in collaboration with the Ministry of Electricity and the Ministry of Higher Education, which will train and graduate many students and engineers and prepare them for integration into the labor market. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18333

larrykn   Chinese company wins $121 million contract in Basra

Energy   Economy News _ Baghdad   The China Petroleum Engineering and Construction Company has won a $121 million engineering contract to modernize facilities used to extract gas during oil production at the West Qurna-1 oil field in Basra.

The project, scheduled to be completed within 27 months, aims to boost crude oil production capacity in the oil field, according to a statement issued tuesday by The National Petroleum Corporation of China, the parent company of China Petroleum Engineering and Construction Corporation.

Iraq's West Qurna-1 oil field, developed by ExxonMobil, produces 480,000 barrels of crude oil per day.

larrykn   http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18332    

Chattels   Did anyone receive their " 800 number(s) " last night ?

futuremoney   got one from a bill collector...does that count?

Chattels   futuremoney No :)

chattels   Who is this guy ? " Francis Albert - One would simply not be paying attention not to see some extremely positive happenings every day. I am betting the farm significant up tick in the Dinar price before years end. I have no secret sources, just a good gut."

futuremoney   wannabe guru

chattels   ' ........... see some extremely positive happenings every day." ?

chattels   " 11-24-2019 Newshound/Intel Guru Francis Albert If I was on a game show, and had to, "had to" give an answer, I would say .86 open on Forex. Well, I would not cash at that, as I believe it would move from there somewhat bullishly. (is that a word?) "

chattels   .86 CENTS WILL GET YOU A WHOLE LOT OF MY DINAR.

futuremoney   every bit of mine

futuremoney   10 cents would do it

futuremoney   chattels what say you?

chattels   futuremoney be encouraged. francis albert is paying attention and his gut instincts favor a short term wait.

futuremoney   LOLOLOLOL

Chattels   Behind the scenes of Pence's Iraq visit

 Hemen Abdulla https://www.rudaw.net/english/opinion/251120191

chattels   Many are wondering why Pence skipped a visit to Baghdad’s top three officials [prime minister, speaker of parliament and president], instead flying straight to Erbil to meet Nechirvan Barzani, President of the Kurdistan Region.

futuremoney   cuz they have written Iraq off...that's why

chattels   A White House official provided a diplomatic answer and said that the US Vice President could not greet Iraqi government officials due to a violent crackdown on protesters across Iraq’s south.

chattels   Instead, this visit was more related to Trump and his administration’s changes and reviews to their policy in Iraq and Syria, including the role Kurds want to play in both countries.

Chattels   In Iraq, protesters chase anti-riot police out of the protest square in Hilla.

chattels   In Baghdad, 11 Civil Defense members trying to put out fires in Rashid Street injured by Molotov cocktails.

chattels   https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/middleeast/iraq/2511201915

chattels   https://twitter.com/DavidMWitty1?lang=en   

Baxter   Hows our Dimes this morning..??

chattels   Baxter Good Morning   Baxter My dimes are fine, but my dinars need some help.

chattels   Iraqi government responds to protests by digging in

Ali Mamouri November 25, 2019

 Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraq-iran-protests-violence.html#ixzz66O7vE3mb

chattelsIt is clear the Iraqi government is not willing to undertake any serious reforms to satisfy the protesters' demands. Instead, it is working on alternative plans to end the protests with minimum reforms. What are these plans and how is the government implementing them?

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraq-iran-protests-violence.html#ixzz66O8D5G8v

chattels   The Iraqi government, like the Iranian government, is betting on the time factor, hoping that the protesters will become scared and exhausted and eventually just return home.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraq-iran-protests-violence.html#ixzz66O8uu9Rx

chattels   One of my principal news sources is not responding. Perhaps they have been shuttered by the Iraqi government or it is their website.

chattels   Off to work. Have a fine day all.

chattels   In closing, " Moron Alert ", - " 11-26-2019 Intel Guru MarkZ I hear that he [VP Pence] got a lot done while he was over there. He gave the kurds permission to sell oil directly without having to go through Bagdad…this is big news."

chattels   If it were true, and I do not believe that it is, then why would it be big news to someone who posts almost daily that " IT " is done ?

chattels   If " IT " is done than what value is there in any other news ?

Chattels   BAGHDAD / NINA / Parliamentary Finance Committee held a joint meeting this afternoon with the Governor of the Central Bank Ali al-Allaq and the Director General of the Tax Authority to discuss the mechanisms of auction currency sale. https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=799221

chattels   BAGHDAD / NINA / The stability of the dollar exchange rates on the stock market struggle and local markets, on Tuesday (November 26, 2019).

The prices of the Stock Exchange struggle - Baghdad 120.650 dinars per 100 dollars. https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=799173

Andrewhatidid   I got major surprise for your on Thursday you wont believe what's starting to be on major forex trading post form see your Thursday

Andrewhatidid   plat* be the 1st you

Baxter   I have a MAJOR surprise for you...

Baxter   MAJOR...MAJOR...MAJOR..MAJOR..MAJOR...MAJOR

26 Nov 19, 10:19 AM Clay   lol

Baxter   PTR says... this WILL BE DONE... by Dec 20th

Clay   sure it will

Baxter   LOL

Clay   one day they will be right

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IQD CALLS Chat Monday Night 11-25-19

IQD CALLS Chat Monday Night 11-25-19

Baxter   I just figured out... that I have had my first dinar for 5,269 days..... R wee rich yet

Clay   wow LOL

Baxter   oops... I forgot leap years... better add 4 more days

Chattels   KRG, Iraqi government reach initial 2020 oil-for-budget deal

chattels   ERBIL, Kurdistan Region — The Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) has fully committed to handing over a daily average of 250,000 barrels of oil in return for its share of the federal budget, after reaching an initial deal with the Iraqi federal government for the year 2020.

A KRG delegation traveled to Baghdad on Monday – its second visit in three days – to reach a deal with central government over Erbil’s share of the budget and its independent oil exports. A deal to handover the 250,000 barrels of oil per day to state oil marketing company SOMO was reached following six hours of discussion.

chattels   “There is now an initial agreement…for the [Kurdistan] Region to handover an average of 250,000 barrels per day of produced oil in the Region to the Iraqi Oil Marketing Company [SOMO], which will supervise its export through the Ceyhan port in Turkey… starting from January 1, 2020,” Iraqi Minister of Oil Thamir Ghadhban told reporters after the meeting.

The agreement on oil forms “one of the important pillars” of the 2020 budget bill, Ghadhban explained.

“In return, there is a budget [bill] being prepared, and the Region’s representatives will be part of it alongside their colleagues in the federal government,” he said.

Delegations will meet in Baghdad to finalize the budget bill proposal next Sunday and Monday, Ghadhban added.

chattels   Some aspects of Monday’s agreement have yet to be set in stone, including the exact percentage of the Region’s share of the budget. The KRG is pushing for a return of the pre-2014 17 percent federal budget share. Also unclear is who will pay for operation costs of companies operating the Region’s oil fields.

chattels   There was the same " promise " codified in the budget last year.

chattels   The KRG failed to perform.

chattels   The federal government has overlooked the KRG’s failure to deliver the oil. Erbil has claimed that contractual arrangements and debts to oil companies prevented the handover.

chattels   We shall see what develops next week.

Wilder   chattels Thanks. Still hoping.

chattels   Do not allow any guru to tell you that any budgetary agreement is " THE HCL".

chattels   The budget is the law for that year only.

Doug_W   strange way to run a govt over there

chattels   Could it be the basis for a long term agreement / permanent law or constitutional amendment ? Yes.

Doug_W   hoping

Dave   howdy folks    find it odd no news on the protests......

Dave   i read this Deep State stuff is getting deeper.....up to my ears

Clay   time for them to fall    been way too long a reign

Dave   what is this deep stuff........no idea?

Dave   cabal forces aligning for the GCR?

chattels   David M. Witty @DavidMWitty1

 In Baghdad, clashes between protesters & security forces in downtown Karbala. http://mobp.as/xPH8p

chattels   More David M. Witty Retweeted  

In Baghdad, sporadic clashes between protesters & security forces in war of the Bridges.

chattels   Local Iraqi official: Hundreds of ISIS have infiltrated into Ninawa Province from Syria. Some are beginning to openly appear in areas around Mosul.

chattels   Iraqi source: ISIS is attacking the 41st Brigade in Tall Dahab area of Salah ad-Din Province. No further details. http://mobp.as/BBG8p

chattels   Iraqi Federal Police kill 6 ISIS in Kirkuk Province.

http://mobp.as/drH8p

chattels   Joel Wing @JoelWing2  

Musings On #Iraq Islamic State Forcing People Out Of Rural Diyala

http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/11/islamic-state-forcing-people-out-of.html  …

Clay   its crazy how they fight and use so much munitions to kill only 6

Crazycrypto   whos the next boogeyman?

chattels   Dave Attacks from without ( Daesh ) and within ( Protestors )

Dave   chattels sounds like we may not see this tomorrow

chattels   Dave An increase in the value of the IQD ?

Dave   ASN from some i hear

Dave   Deep State....???

chattels   Dave Don't tell MarkZ :)

Dave   one would think ISIS would hold off before going to the banks to make withdrawals

chattels   The saying that " one cannot make this up " is inapplicable to the gurus.

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IQD CALLS Chat Early Monday 11-25-19

IQD CALLS Chat Early Monday 11-25-19

Chattels   Cold in Carolina this morning.

chattels   Sulaimani street sweepers overwhelmed by tons of garbage https://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/251120191

chattels   SULAIMANI, Kurdistan Region –This is Sulaimani's main market. Hundreds of street vendors make their living here. After finishing their work, the vendors leave their garbage out to be cleaned by municipal street sweepers.

95 street sweepers clean the market every night from 5 to 11 pm, collecting and cleaning the hundreds of tons of garbage the market produces every day.

A Sulaimani street sweeper's monthly salary is 300,000 to 400,000 IQD ($250-$330).

chattels   KRG delegation to revisit Baghdad on Monday ( today ) for budget, oil talks https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/241120192

Chattels   Iraqi CTService Facebook page also announcing a coup & arresting of government officials in the Green Zone. (?)

chattels   Iraqi CTService denies it is conducting a coup & says its social media accounts have been hacked.

chattels   Iraqi CTService Director General Talib Shaghati Kenani denies he is conducting a coup & says his social media accounts have been hacked.

chattels   These posts were 15 hours ago, so ......................

Chattels   Iraqi authorities close 12 TV & radio stations for 3 months due to their coverage of protests. Another 5 given warnings. (This is many of the main TV stations, but not the Iraqiya channel). http://mobp.as/BRo8p

JoeSchmoe   chattels question for ya...

chattels   The Kurdistan Regional Negotiating Delegation begins its meeting with the federal government in Baghdad

Monday , 25 November 15:56 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=799073

JoeSchmoe   Good Morning You posted that article from 2012 yesterday morning, about Reuters saying this could take the long term.

JoeSchmoe   from reuters

chattels   Parliament holds its session today in the presence of / 225 / deputies

Monday , 25 November 15:32 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=799064

JoeSchmoe   for being from 2012, do YOU now feel we could be in the 'short..er' term?

chattels   JoeSchmoe I did. Found it at Dinarupdates forum.

JoeSchmoe   especially with them saying recently about wanting to raise the value, when they didn't back then

JoeSchmoe   we see all gurus stating why they think this will happen soon...because of what THEY think is needed for a change.

chattels   JoeSchmoe I am not very optimistic about a near term liquidity event for us.

JoeSchmoe   Thank You , great to hear

JoeSchmoe   oh NOT

JoeSchmoe:*

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chattels   JoeSchmoe Sorry. Just my opinion.

JoeSchmoe   i  hear ya

JoeSchmoe   but my optimism comes from never hearing them back then saying anything about wanting to raise the value

JoeSchmoe   and recently we have heard that from them

JoeSchmoe   and with that article being from 2012....

JoeSchmoe   that you brought yesterday

chattels   JoeSchmoe I hear you. I hope that you are correct and that I am wrong.

JoeSchmoe   everyone has an opinion

JoeSchmoe   mine is based on hope, yours is based on articles

chattels   The Central Bank sells more than / 277 / million dollars in the currency auction

Sunday 24 November 19:42 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=798897

JoeSchmoe   your opinion is more factually motivated

chattels   JoeSchmoe Security and stability is what I look for. There is precious little of that in Iraq.

JoeSchmoe   yea......

futuremoney   I think that because democracy failed, that all the powers that were going to allow Iraq to RI..has seen the miserable failure it has become, and has backed out of the deal.

Chattels   US Vice President Mike Pence makes unannounced visit to Iraq's Ain al-Asad base hosting US troops, and then to the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan. Also spoke to PM Abdul Mehdi by phone:

chattels   My expectations are set low enough that this is not a surprise, but this is just awful. It is *as if* there is not a single person in this White House who even works on Iraq, so no thought is given to the damage done by skipping Baghdad.

chattels   Presumably having no one on staff who knows anything about Iraq, I guess this is why VP conflated the Kurdish groups in Iraq & Syria. In fact the Iraqi Kurds with whom Pence met are the allies of the Turks, & also rivals to the Syrian Kurds the US worked with.

chattels   Visiting US troops at a base in Anbar & then doing a photo-op with Kurdish leaders in Irbil while skipping Baghdad is like poking the Iraqis in the eye & saying, "you don't matter."

chattels   https://twitter.com/UticaRisk

chattels   13 dead in 1 of the ‘worst’ days of protest in southern Iraq

By SAMYA KULLAB and MURTADA FARAJ

Yesterday   https://apnews.com/e79d0f55f24e4885b131cec1ec175c26?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

chattels   Mohamed Al Ajil @M_Ajil    23h23 hours ago

What a sight: A sea of young students heading to Tahrir square in Baghdad and singing the national anthem #Iraq . https://twitter.com/M_Ajil

futuremoney   chattels like I said...everyone has given up on Iraq because their lack of interest in turning their country around.

Doug_W    @futuremoney ur too easy today

chattels   futuremoney It appears that there are 200,000 - 300,000 protestors who have not given up.

chattels    Whether they can effectuate meaningful change / reform remains to be seen.

Baxter   Thought for Today..... there are approximately as of 2017... 3.5 to 4 Million Muslims living in the United States... of those... approximately 500,000 Iraqis live in the U.S. and the highest percentage of those live in the Chicago area... second is Detroit Michigan.....

Doug_W   two good places to stay away from

Baxter   That means that 1.2 to 1.4% of our population.. is MUSLIM

Andrewhatidid   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsnkOAvm96Q

Andrewhatidid   I'm hearing the dinar community from vital brad saying

IS NOVEMBER THE REVALUATION OF THE DINAR WILL HAPPEN

AND RESTORING IRAQ FOR THE RESET TO BEGIN

DINAR INVESTOR SAYING MARCH 2020 THE GURUS SAYING MIDDLE 2020

1ST I WONDER WHO GIVE YOUR THOSE INSANE TIME FRAME

I FORGOT YOUR ASSUME AND PRESUMPTIONS RIGHT

JUST LIKE THOSE WITNESS THE DEEP STATE (THE DEMS) BROUGHT OUT FOR TRUMP

ASSUMING THEIR WAS A QUID PRO QUO

AND THE IMPEACHMENT WOULD OF BEEN A BOMB SHELL.......

OR JUST LIKE DINAR INVESTOR ASSUME THE CLOUD 2.0 WOULD OF MAKE HIM

RICH SUPER FAST RIGHT?

AND HOW IS THAT WORKING OUT FOR THEM

WE'LL TELL YOU A TOTAL FAILURE

YOU GUYS WANT IT DATES AND TIME FRAME

WELL WE GOING TO PLAY A LITTLE PUZZLE GAME WE GOING TO FIX ALL THE PUZZLE PIECES FOR YOU AND LEAVE 1 SPACE OUT

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL GUESS WHEN THE R.V. AND RESTORING IRAQ WILL TAKE

PLACE AT LAST (THE HARVEST READY TO PLOCK )

THE DEEP STATE (THE DEMS) COME OUT OF RECESSION BREAK DEC 3

[] THEN GOING TO HAVE AN IMPEACHMENT VOTE OR TRIAL THROUGH

THE SENATE IN THE SAME WEEK OR MAYBE DEC 7 OR DEC 8

ON THE PATRIOT SIDE (REPUBLICANS AND TRUMP ADMIN)

DEC 9 OR DEC 10 FISA AND IG REPORT (INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORT)

COMES OUT

DEC 11 OR DEC 12 HOROWITZ TESTIFIES

DEC 10 DEC 11 DEC 20 OR DEC 21ST THE LAST RATE CUTS FOR THE YEAR

TO START SEEING SIMULTANEOUS WILL HAPPEN

DEC 13 OR DEC 14 CONGRESS ADJOURNS...

DEC 15 OR DEC 16 INDICTMENTS START.....

DEC 17 OR DEC 18 MOST OF THE DEEP STATE (DEMS) AGAIN WILL START SAYING

THEY RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT

BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY WILL HAVE IMMUNITY AND IT WILL STOP THEM

FROM BEING INDICTED OR SOME WILL CLAIM THEY FEELING ILL

PATRIOT REPUBLICANS MAHDI HALBOUSSI PRESIDENT SALEH AND ALL THE

GREAT LEADERS GET A BIG WIN

IMPEACHMENT FAIL AND THEN THEY WILL FINALLY ABLE TO PLAY OFFENSE

AT LAST

NOW YOU FILL THE LAST PIECE OF PUZZLE TO SEE WHEN WILL THE

R.V. AND RESTORING IRAQ WILL HAPPEN

DURING THOSE DISTRACTIONS

EVERY GREAT SUCCESS NEED A DISTRACTION RIGHT ?

Andrewhatidid   and thats all brb.....

spankie   Iraqi figures on the US sanctions list on charges of corruption and repression-- article mentions maliki on the list-- bgg site-- we can only hope

LeLe   Andewhatidid I agree the **** Show is a Great Distraction.

Wilder   spankie i can't believe Maliki is still around after all these years.

Andrewhatidid   #THE LIES ALWAYS OVER COME THE DARKNESS I MET TO PUT LIGHT HERE

Andrewhatidid   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJFWHxyvss8  KRG Delegation Arrives in Baghdad for Final Stage of Negotiations WHY IN IRAQ DURING THANKSGIVING WHY GIVING TURKEY WHAT THANKSGIVING IS ABOUT ?

Andrewhatidid   Erbil, Baghdad Expected to Sign Budget Deal This Week: Envoy

Andrewhatidid   EVERY SUCCESS NEEDS A GREAT DISTRACTION......

Andrewhatidid   now you guys have the dates of distraction watch them and to see if we are lying i didn't give the exact day thats why i say or...... because i want it your to use your own knowledge of figuring out the exact day......

Andrewhatidid   knowledge is power and finding out the piece of the puzzle on your own will be the best feelings ever........

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IQD CALLS Chat Sunday 11-24-19

IQD CALLS Chat Sunday 11-24-19

 chattels   Al Mada Special security group & 2 armed factions are shooting protesters in Baghdad ISF is spreading stories that demonstrators are trying to storm the Central Bank of Iraq as excuse to shoot people https://twitter.com/JoelWing2

chattels   A ‘tuk tuk’, now a symbol of the protests, carries demonstrators in Baghdad. https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/mec/2019/11/07/can-iraqs-revolution-succeed-reflections-from-a-protest-movement-at-a-crossroads/

chattels   Iraq’s battered tuk-tuks have long been a symbol of the country’s poverty, and the reputation of the men who typically drive them was that of an uneducated bunch of toughs working illegally, including without driver's licenses, and putting lives at risk. The ongoing anti-government protests have radically changed the image of the motorized rickshaws and their erratic drivers.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraqs-tuktuks-become-symbol-of-protests.html#ixzz66BuUcD1G

chattels   " But with 2–300,000 people gathering daily in Tahrir Square alone, ............."

chattels   Iraq on display   Christine McCaffray van den Toorn November 22, 2019

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraq-protests-government-leadership-crackdown.html#ixzz66BvFPWtk

chattels   US VP Mike Pence pays surprise visit to Iraq, Kurdistan Region https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/

chattels   Pro-Iran militia chief: US, Israel have hand in killing of Iraq protesters https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/24112019

chattels   Iran’s protests expose fatal weaknesses https://www.rudaw.net/english/opinion/22112019

chattels   Will demonstrations lead to the Iranian regime’s collapse? https://www.rudaw.net/english/opinion/23112019

chattels   Iraq dinar is short-term disappointment, long-term bet

October 3, 2012 https://www.reuters.com/article/iraq-economy-dinar/mideast-money-iraq-dinar-is-short-term-disappointment-long-term-bet-idUSL5E8KT13720121003

chattels   Courtesy Dinar Updates

A  chattels   Note the date of the foregoing article. It is an interesting read.

chattels   " Long term bet " !

chattels   This decade is nearly gone. I used to think in terms of years and now it appears that decades may be more appropriate.

chattels   If one has $ 50,000 in dinar, but had instead invested that same money in the American stock market, say ten years ago, what would that be worth today ?

chattels   Query ?

chattels   A finance person once told me that the IQD may be worth something someday, but by the time it has value that one would have gotten a better return from the stock market.

JoeSchmoe     well, that article chattels brought sure does suck!

JoeSchmoe   the thing about what is said in that article, long term from when...now?

JoeSchmoe   'short term' may have meant previous years.....hopefuly? Doubtful though

JoeSchmoe   Oh duh.....read the date   2012

JoeSchmoe   NOW I feel better 'happy-dance

JoeSchmoe   as much as my ADD lets me read and comprehend that article

Baxter   37 more days in this decade.... what will the next decade bring??

Doug_W   The Rusafa Criminal Court on Sunday issued a life sentence to the director of the branch of Rafidain Bank in Anbar and a group of employees with him

Crevan   If the IQD actually bumps up to where we hope it does. What about the price of oil and opium?

Sparky   Dave ...any good news in the FML ?

Dave   need where did you get that

Dave   for the politicians whom still enjoy immunity

Dave   got a few bankers I read....life sentence

Sparky   Dave .. I saw top 5 USA ain't happy with... sanctioning.. Maliki on the list..

Dave   I posted that .....

Sparky   Dave ..yup... I recall...

Dave   too bad the Iraqis cant do it fer themselves

Sparky   Dave ...young Iraqis getting Woke...

Dave   Sparky need a coup i figure......

Dave   ! month of protests.......not much going down for the crooked politicians

Sparky   Dave ... I think these protests... almost a million show up daily, despite being shot at...new day has dawned...young Iraqis waking up..

Dave   Politicians not reponding to their number one grievance...Corruption

Sparky   Dave ...USA sanctions going to help make them fly straight... maybe..

Dave   Sparky not much different over here

Sparky   Dave ... exponentially different..

Dave   agreed

Dave   !10 yrs ago we discussed not seeing this until Maliki gets busted.......missed impeachment by 1 vote.....getting closer?

Sam I Am   Sparky Hi

Sparky   Sam I Am ... What are your thoughts on the protestors progress ?

Sam I Am   Sparky Haven't really followed it but offhand I'd say irrelevant

Sparky   Sam I Am ... ok,. But strongly disagree...

Sam I Am   Sparky What are your thoughts?

Sparky    Sam I Am ...USA sanctions on top Iraqi theives...

Sparky   Sam I Am ... frozen $ hurts the fools...

Sparky   Sam I Am ... slowly eradicating Iranian influence...imo..

Sam I Am   Sparky Well as I've said for 8 years the only relevant issues are the reserves and the money supply

Sparky   Sam I Am ... again, I strongly disagree...

Sparky   ... resources rich. ..

Sparky   Sam I Am ...how about political stability ?

Sam I Am   Sparky Well they've been very unstable but the currency hasn't changed much

Sam I Am   even when ISIS moved in

Sparky   Sam I Am ...maybe soon, ...young Iraqis wake up...maybe now...

Sparky    Sam I Am ...maybe they are already awake and aware...

Sam I Am   Sparky Maybe

Sparky   Sam I Am ...of their potential future..

Sam I Am   Sparky Pegged currencies are valued on reserves and money supply

Sam I Am   So I don't think political or social factors count for much

Sparky   Sam I Am ... IMF and Bis can do anything they want to do...

Sam I Am   Sparky Not really

Sam I Am   They monitor and make recommendations. That's about it.

Sparky   Sam I Am ...Imu...

Sparky   Sam I Am ... apparently, USA puts sanctions on the whales... tightening the grip...on US agenda...

Sparky   Sam I Am ...but, as always, I could be wrong..

Sam I Am   Sparky Do you believe that the US wants Iraq to RV?

Sparky   Sam I Am ...no...

Sam I Am   Sparky Do you think Trump owns dinar?

Sparky   Sam I Am ... slow, gradual rise...

Sparky   Sam I Am ...no...

Sam I Am   good

Sparky   Sam I Am ... I m still buying...

Sparky   Sam I Am ...max 30. % loss , for huge upturn... count me in...

Sam I Am   Sparky You think the most you could lose is 30%?

DaveS   parky i am up about 90 %

Sparky   Sam I Am ... I figure I lose all investment, ...but can get at least 70% back today, if I wanted to...

Sparky   Dave ... nice...soooon to be more...imo...

Dave   ASN.....

Sparky   Sam I Am ...if they lop, and raise the value... I I'll make $...

Dave   and buy a wheel barrow

Sam I Am   Sparky Two problems with that

Dave   NO1 and @

Sparky   Sam I Am ... please tell...

Sam I Am   1. If they lop you have to find somebody to exchange, and there's no guarantee that you can

Sam I Am   2. They have no incentive to raise the value

Dave   and break out those wheel barrows

Sparky   Bbiab

Dave   1000 dinat a coke

Dave   i wish to pay in fils for that too please

Dave   current minting price for a dime....8.1 cents https://www.answers.com/Q/How_much_does_a_dime_costs

Baxter   Did Someone mention DImes..

Sparky   Sam I Am ... investment will put inflationary pressure on the currency...

Dave   no *

Sam I Am   Sparky That's Kap's theory

Dave   espensive coke

Sparky   Sam I Am ...ditto...

Baxter   OH.. IF I could just get a Dime..... I be gone in a flash...

biff   1,200 = 1.00 Sparky

Sam I Am   My theory is that as their exports grow they'll do what Vietnam has done and lower the value

Dave   Sam I Am how much for a barrel of rice......

Sparky   Sam I Am ...ah...and there is the rub...Iraq needs imports my friend..

Dave   \like they produce 5 milliomn barrels of rice each day

biff   They grow a lot of wheat tho

Dave   lol

biff   and figs

biff   iraq

Sparky   Sam I Am .. imports prefer higher valued currency..

Dave   Iraq gold and lots of it too

Sam I Am   Sparky If they want an international currency they're going to have to develop their exports

Sam I Am   That's how you create demand for your currency internationally

biff   red mercury too

Dave   if they only could end the corruption would be a good place to start

Sparky   Sam I Am ...they need extremely high volume of imports in order to rebuild the country...imo..

biff used to be the agricultural mecca of the region

biff   its still is

Sparky   Sam I Am ...and, ...who do they share ports with...

Sam I Am   Sparky Kuwait I guess

Dave   Sparky one iddy biddy port

biff   Phosphates

Sparky   Sam I Am ...used to be part of Iraq...

biff   thats what saddam said lol

Dave   biff sulfur eic etc etc....lots of it

Dave   look at what the UAE did in 20yrs with so much less

Sparky   biff ... yup...

 biff   Thats because of the war. Its should have been Kuwait. 1990 to the Gult war Kuwait had most of the banks in the middle east

biff   All the banks went to the UAE

Sparky   biff...slant drilling by Kuwait caused the entire issue...

biff   Out of fear of course

biff   thats true sparky

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IQD CALLS Chat Saturday Night 11-23-19

IQD CALLS Chat Saturday Night 11-23-19

Crazycrypto   i have held for almost 10 years myself

Baxter   start my 15th March 17

Crazycrypto   you bought in 2006?

Baxter   yep

Crazycrypto   wow    lol  their was no forums  back then right?

Baxter    no there wasnt

Crazycrypto   probably for the best haha

Baxter   I really didnt follow it on the internet till about 7 years ago

Crazycrypto   ah i see

Baxter   I was told to buy some and just put it away...so I did

Crazycrypto   yea i didnt start following it heavy until 2012

Crazycrypto   but the last few years i have totally fel back on it

Crazycrypto   used to check forums alot during the day   now i check maybe 2-3 ttimes a day     and move along

Baxter   i basically just stay in here

Crazycrypto   we are just waiting to see if they increase it or not

Dave   hope gives us purpose........been waiting to buy a new car for 10yrs......

Baxter   Is that what the Dinar Does? Is gives us HOPE??

Crazycrypto   @baxter you got any other investments that have a potential like the dinar?

Crazycrypto   of course it gives us all hope

Baxter   NOPE... no investments like this one....   this is the BIGGIE

Dave   Baxter at a dime....10,000 % ROI aint bad

Baxter   Dave... I know.... think of the odds of that.... a currency going up ten thousand times in one day

Baxter   at a dollar.. that would be ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND TIMES

Dave   A+

Baxter   at 3 dollars.. THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND TIMES.... LOL... think what that would do to inflation.... OMG

Dave   "Restore the value of the IQD" is all we got as per CBI

Dave   incomplete partial or the IKEA version they never mentioned

Dave   have not heard a peep frm CBI in weeks

Dave   CBI lie about What?

Baxter   all of them lie    thats all they know

Dave   not sure what cbi has lied about

Baxter   LeLe.... what do you think about that? a three hundred thousand percent increase in the Dinar....

Dave   Baxter better than your dime

Dave   ?lol

Baxter   well.. the dime would be ten thousand percent... how about a penny

Dave   Baxter being a lobster again

Baxter   no.. a penny would still be a thousand percent

Dave   Shopping Cart BAX

Baxter   Hey... SOUTH KOREA...just gave them a ten million dollar loan... and their currency is worth exactly what the dinar is

Dave   Baxter 10 miilion buys squat here

Baxter   South Korean people buy new cars all of the time... think they use wheelbarrows

Baxter   they just held the world olympics... on a tenth of a penny

Dave   Baxter never asked

Baxter   built all of those new stadiums...for a tenth of a penny

Dave   Purcasing power

Baxter   that is just what their currency is worth...and they dont use wheelbarrows...

Baxter   they buy groceries every week... make car payments..buy houses... all on a tenth of a penny

Baxter   Hyundai has car plants..all over the world..including here in the U S...all on a tenth of apenny

Francis Albert   I believe many of you are frustrated and won't admit how emotionally invested you are into this investment. Obviously most all the "gurus" are bogus. If you don't know which ones are in that category, then you deserve your experience. So, now you spend your time bashing others to take out your frustration.

Francis Albert   Frank makes his living keeping people engaged, like a good carnival man. Nothing illegal or immoral about it. He doesn't lie, predict or infer secret sources. He is what he is and like any drug his followers keep taking the drug.

Any sensible aware person can see, however, that he means what he says, and is a good Soul. He's a preacher, and you have to keep telling people what they want to hear to keep them coming. This is how religions work. Heaven is coming.

Francis Albert    And the Goat...well He/ She does a good job at analyzing the landscape, has always been way conservative in getting closed to being too positive. I think too, puts a lot of time in, to help folks sort things out.

Francis Albert   Personally, I remain quite bullish on the whole thing and hope that Kap will have the courtesy and lack of ego to come back after a reasonable increase happens out of the box, and say he was wrong all these many posts.

Francis Albert   Kap has somehow garnered a reputation and respect for his opinions, because he acts like he knows, and doesn't waiver. People con themselves all the time.

LeLe   Francis Albert if it sounded like I was bashing MarkZ, I wasn't. I was just trying to point out that people are going to be extremely upset when the rates comes out. You have to use your own discernment.

Francis Albert   LeLe, so you don't think the first significant rise with going International will be "significant?"

LeLe   Francis Albert nor 28.50

LeLe   Not 28.50

Francis Albert   Who said $28.50?

LeLe   MarkZ . .Lol

Francis Albert   Well, Mark is obviously operating on a whole lot more information than we are..haha God love 'em...Planet Earth.

Francis Albert   If I was on a game show, and had to, "had to" give an answer, I would say .86 open on Forex.

LeLe   Francis Albert I'll take it

Francis Albert    Well, I would not cash at that, as I believe ti would move from there somewhat bullishly. (is that a word?)

LeLe   Francis Albert I believe it's going to rise as well.

biff   .86 IQD 1.20 USD

chattels   Courtesy DavidMWitty

chattels   https://twitter.com/DavidMWitty1/status/1198320076992196611  

chattels   Al Mada Special security group & 2 armed factions are shooting protesters in Baghdad ISF is spreading stories that demonstrators are trying to storm the Central Bank of Iraq as excuse to shoot people https://twitter.com/JoelWing2

chattels   A ‘tuk tuk’, now a symbol of the protests, carries demonstrators in Baghdad. https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/mec/2019/11/07/can-iraqs-revolution-succeed-reflections-from-a-protest-movement-at-a-crossroads/

chattels   Iraq’s battered tuk-tuks have long been a symbol of the country’s poverty, and the reputation of the men who typically drive them was that of an uneducated bunch of toughs working illegally, including without driver's licenses, and putting lives at risk. The ongoing anti-government protests have radically changed the image of the motorized rickshaws and their erratic drivers.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraqs-tuktuks-become-symbol-of-protests.html#ixzz66BuUcD1G

chattels   " But with 2–300,000 people gathering daily in Tahrir Square alone, ............."

chattels   Iraq on display   Christine McCaffray van den Toorn November 22, 2019

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraq-protests-government-leadership-crackdown.html#ixzz66BvFPWtk

chattels   US VP Mike Pence pays surprise visit to Iraq, Kurdistan Region https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/

chattels   Pro-Iran militia chief: US, Israel have hand in killing of Iraq protesters https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/24112019

chattels   Iran’s protests expose fatal weaknesses https://www.rudaw.net/english/opinion/22112019

chattels   Will demonstrations lead to the Iranian regime’s collapse? https://www.rudaw.net/english/opinion/23112019

chattels   Iraq dinar is short-term disappointment, long-term bet

October 3, 2012 https://www.reuters.com/article/iraq-economy-dinar/mideast-money-iraq-dinar-is-short-term-disappointment-long-term-bet-idUSL5E8KT13720121003

chattels   Courtesy Dinar Updates

A  chattels   Note the date of the foregoing article. It is an interesting read.

chattels   " Long term bet " !

chattels   This decade is nearly gone. I used to think in terms of years and now it appears that decades may be more appropriate.

chattels   If one has $ 50,000 in dinar, but had instead invested that same money in the American stock market, say ten years ago, what would that be worth today ?

chattels   Query ?

chattels   A finance person once told me that the IQD may be worth something someday, but by the time it has value that one would have gotten a better return from the stock market.

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