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IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 11-5-19

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Chattels   Risking Turkey’s ire, Iraqi Kurds back Syrian brethren  Amberin Zaman November 4, 2019

chattels   Iraqi President in Erbil to talk Iraq constitution edits, protests with Kurdistan Region leaders

chattels   Quotas and a Parliamentary system are protective of minorities. I do not look for the Kurds, a minority, to give them up via constitutional amendment(s).

chattels   " ............ the constitution amendment committee will convene later this week, but it remains unclear what articles will be put forth in the meeting for amendment."

chattels   "There are a lot of talks of changing the system from parliamentary to presidential, or the reduction of the number of MPs by increasing the number of voters they represent from 100,000 to 250,000 voters," she added.

chattels   Kurdistan Region president Nechirvan Barzani commented on the amendment of the Iraqi constitution while attending the sixth congress of the Kurdistan Bar Association on October 31.

"The [2005] constitution designed for the new Iraq has been branded as advanced compared to the constitution of the majority of the countries in the region. However, not implementing its articles has created an atmosphere that means they are now talking about amending it. The main problem is not the constitution, but... that this constitution has been ignored."

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Chattels   Risking Turkey’s ire, Iraqi Kurds back Syrian brethren  Amberin Zaman November 4, 2019

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/turkey-incursion-northern-syria-unite-kurds-iraq-krg.html#ixzz64M1GCxnp

chattels   Iraqi President in Erbil to talk Iraq constitution edits, protests with Kurdistan Region leaders

https://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/04112019

chattels   Quotas and a Parliamentary system are protective of minorities. I do not look for the Kurds, a minority, to give them up via constitutional amendment(s).

chattels   " ............ the constitution amendment committee will convene later this week, but it remains unclear what articles will be put forth in the meeting for amendment."

chattels   "There are a lot of talks of changing the system from parliamentary to presidential, or the reduction of the number of MPs by increasing the number of voters they represent from 100,000 to 250,000 voters," she added.

chattels   Kurdistan Region president Nechirvan Barzani commented on the amendment of the Iraqi constitution while attending the sixth congress of the Kurdistan Bar Association on October 31.

"The [2005] constitution designed for the new Iraq has been branded as advanced compared to the constitution of the majority of the countries in the region. However, not implementing its articles has created an atmosphere that means they are now talking about amending it. The main problem is not the constitution, but... that this constitution has been ignored."

"It must be clear to all that any amendments being made must reflect the reality of the differences and the uniqueness of the country's components and that the rights of all sides must be stipulated in it," Barzani went on to say.

"We will not impede any amendment aimed at improving the life and management of Iraq, but any amendment which will create inequality or harm democracy and federalism [will be impeded]," he warned.

chattels   "the constitution cannot be amended without the consent of Kurds, and the Iraqi parties very well understand that," Shakhawan Abdulla, a former Kurdish MP in the Iraqi Parliament said.

"Our only guarantee in the democratic, federal Iraq is this constitution. If we open this we will harm ourselves,” said Hoshyar Zebari, a member of the KDP leadership and Iraq's former foreign and finance minister.

chattels   Blocking police at checkpoints, Iraqis revel in people power https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/04112019

chattels   Iranian embassy set ablaze in Karbala https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/041120191

chattels   Iraq forces fire on Baghdad protesters after 4 killed in Karbala https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/041120192

chattels   In Baghdad, protesters reach Rashid Street & security forces disperse them. At least 5 killed.   LINK

chattels   Internet cut in Baghdad in effort to reduce protests. http://mobp.as/vIV2p

chattels   More evidence Iran's influence has worked and parties are backing away from having PM Abdul Mahdi step down https://almadapaper.net/view.php?cat=222476

chattels   The presidency of the parliament will meet tomorrow with the heads of political blocs to discuss the current situation

Monday 04 November 16:23 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=796271

chattels   In Iraq, protesters replace Iranian flag with Iraqi flag on one of the buildings in the Iranian consulate in Karbala. Protesters denounce Iranian intervention in Iraq.

http://mobp.as/EwW2p

chattels   In Iraq, protesters demand dissolvement of Parliament & early elections.   http://mobp.as/sxW2p

Matt   Market Summary > Dow Jones Industrial Average  INDEXDJX: .DJI  27,462.11 +114.75 (0.42%)^  

chattels   Reidar Visser @reidarvisser   Those who support a more presidential form of government in #Iraq should perhaps remember peaceful democratic transitions from parliamentary to presidential rule - without coup, war etc - are relatively rare. Turkey under Erdogan comes to mind but he had wide parliamentary base https://twitter.com/reidarvisser

Portmagaland    Do any of you know who Field McConnell is?

Portmagaland   If so, apparently he was arrested for three felonies https://mobile.twitter.com/agentcointelpr1/status/1191583619824996352

Portmagaland   That link is Field's arrest report and mugshot posted on Twitter. Personally, I was hoping it's fake, but it looks real to me.

Portmagaland   Bummer, nothing in our world is true apparently we're all suckers getting scammed in one way, shape or form.

Portmagaland   Except death and taxes, they seem to be true.

Larrykn   Baghdad province works to build 100,000 housing units on the outskirts of the capital

Economy News – Baghdad   Baghdad province has revealed preparations for the implementation of the project of the five cities surrounding the capital, which includes 100,000 housing units to be distributed among the poor.

The governor of Baghdad, Mohammed Jaber al-Atta, told al-Sabah newspaper that the province, among its plans to provide adequate housing for The Citizens of Baghdad, is seeking to completethe project of the five residential cities surrounding the capital.

He said the project includes the creation of land in areas of the outskirts of Baghdad such as Nahrawan, Taji and Abu Ghraib, as well as Mahmoudiya and Husseinia to build 100,000 full-service housing units, he said, adding that the province is working to coordinate with the Ministry of Labor and Social Affairs to provide it with the names of the poor within the base.

The data it has in order to rely on it in the allocation of land and sort it for the construction of housing units on it within the project.

Al-Atta pointed out that the territories will be worked on after determining their legal and administrative status and agreeing with the relevant authorities to extend services to them from water networks and sewers and the construction of streets and electricity poles, as well as hospitals, schools and police stations in order to create an economic movement in these areas through Access to other services. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18145

larrykn   Industry announces 97% completion rate for The Industrial City in Dhi Qar

Economy News - Baghdad:   The Directorate General of Industrial Development, one of the formations of the Ministry of Industry and Minerals, has reached the final stages of the industrial city project in Dhi Qar province with an achievement rate of 97 percent.

"The pace of work is constantly increasing to complete the industrial city in Dhi Qar province with the follow-up and supervision of the directorate," said The Directorate's Director General Salam Saeed Ahmed, in a press release, stressing that "97 percent of the first and second phases of the project are achieved."

"It is hoped that the city will open its doors soon to support many Iraqi families, especially the people of Dhi Qar province, as it will provide more than 5,000 jobs for various disciplines with 25 workers in the industrial block out of a total of 200 industrial blocks covering all food and construction industries," he said. Chemical, electrical and engineering." http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18144

larrykn   Brent crude futures at $62.12 per barrel

Economy News - Baghdad:   Oil prices stabilized Tuesday as investors kept an eye on u.S. inventories data due later Tuesday, after two days of gains by crude due to positive economic data and hopes for a trade deal by Washington and Beijing. .

By 0739 GMT, brent crude futures had fallen by a cent to $62.12 a barrel after rising 0.7 percent in the previous session.

U.S. crude futures fell nine cents to $56.45 a barrel.

U.S. crude oil inventories are expected to rise last week, while oil inventories are likely to fall,according to a preliminary Reuters poll on Monday.

Oil has been supported by hopes for a trade agreement between the United States and China, the world's two largest oil consumers, which could boost demand.

Oil investors are closely following the initial public offering of Saudi State Oil Company Saudi Aramco, which is expected to be the largest listing in the world.

On the supply side, Russia cut its oil production to 11.23 million barrels per day last month from 11.25 million barrels per day in September, but again missed its pledge under an agreement to curb production.

The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), Russia and other producers, under the opec+group, have been implementing an agreement to cut oil production by 1.2 million barrels per day since January. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18143

larrykn   Iraqi forces fire on Baghdad protesters, 4 killed https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44575/Iraqi-forces-fire-on-Baghdad-protesters-4-killed

larrykn   Internet access cut off in much of Iraq: NetBlocks https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44576/Internet-access-cut-off-in-much-of-Iraq-NetBlocks

chattels   An 18-member Iraqi parliamentary committee has been established to look into what amendments could be made, in line with the requirements put forward by the 2005 constitution.

The committee must present a report including recommendations for necessary amendments within four months. Recommended amendments will then be put to parliament for a vote and must be approved by an absolute majority.

Then it will be presented for a referendum to the people within a period that does not exceed two months from its approval date in the parliament.

“The referendum on the amended Articles shall be successful if approved by the majority of the voters, and if not rejected by two-thirds of the voters in three or more governorates,” according to the Constitution. https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/05112019

chattels   Article 142 of the constitution states that the Council of Representatives shall form a committee from its members "representing the principal components of the Iraqi society", which should present proposed amendments to the Council within four months.

The amendment package shall be voted on as a whole by the Council, and if it is passed, put to a referendum, which shall pass if approved by a majority of voters and is not rejected by a two-thirds majority in three or more governorates. The conditions for this referendum are the same as the conditions for the original ratification referendum.

The constitution can also be amended by a general procedure, laid down in Article 126, which requires a two-thirds approval in the Council of Ministers, followed by approval by a simple majority in a referendum.

chattels   There is no Council of Ministers. Another incompleted implementation under the Iraqi Constitution.

chattels   Some Kurdish figures have insisted the constitution itself is not flawed, but its incomplete implementation.

Chattels   Sorry, there is a Council of Ministers but many are never appointed or approved by the Parliament or have resigned.

chattels   There is no Federation Council and never has been.

chattels   As PMU gets involved in Iraqi protests, rumors about military coup spread

Ali Mamouri November 4, 2019   Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraq-protests-karbala-baghdad-iran.html#ixzz64PN69ts8

chattels   " .............. military coup ............."

chattels   Deputy speaker of Iraqi Council of representatives, Bashir Khalil: We are coming up with reforms as per the protester demands. But we can only act within our laws and constitution.

chattels   Michael Knights @Mikeknightsiraq

“We can only act within our laws and constitution” - that rarely stops Iraqi politicians from acting when they want to, and especially when it benefits them personally. Laws and the constitution only seem to be an obstacle to reform, never to corruption and repression. https://twitter.com/Mikeknightsiraq

chattels   Kirk H. Sowell @UticaRisk

If you are following this in the Iraqi media you will know that Iraqi politicos keep saying that Abd al-Mahdi can't resign now to avoid a "constitutional vacuum" (فراغ دستوري). But of course the constitution says the president (a Kurd) becomes PM, so there would be no void. https://twitter.com/UticaRisk

chattels   The Iraqi Constitution has been suspended in every meaningful sense. Of course there have been violations for years, especially in terms of illegal localized impositions of martial law or illegal arrests. But never post-2003 to anything like this scale.

chattels   Here’s a clue to why Iraq’s protests have not spread to Sunni areas. In Anbar, majority Sunni, authorities have arrested people who used Facebook to express solidarity for protesters - they didn’t even take to the street. https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/11/04/iraq-arrests-voicing-protest-solidarity

chattels   And that's the way that it is from the news that I read out of Iraq on this Tuesday, November 5, 2019.

chattels   Have a fine day all.

Crazycrypto   I personally think some in here see the glass as half empty instead of half full.. over the years it seems many have become bitter which is understandable and i think alot of people got into this investment as a get rich quick scheme of sorts but as time passes so does life and the average age of a dinarian i read was between 45-65 years old so that means most are retirees and time is ticking.

Baxter   Crazycrypto you got that right... 68 here...and my alarm may go off anyday....need my dimes

Crazycrypto   i get it man i hope it ends soon for us all

Zig Crazycrypto :    Yes, I believe the vast majority of Dinar holders still listen to and believe the so-called "Gurus" and like the hype and promises of an "Imminent" RV....so they prefer that over this...

Baxter   SPEAKING OF CLOSE::::::::::::: 11-5-2019 Newshound Guru Jeff ...the news is now suggesting to us we are very close. They're now talking about the reforms. They're talking about amending the Constitution. All of these steps are post rate change steps...a little more time is needed because all of this involves money...we're waiting on that [2020] budget. But when you look at the news it does show you we're very close...

Foxmulder   want to see nega

Steven nabil  ✔  @thestevennabil   This is Iraq’s “Green revolution “ moment, do not let us regret the global reaction later on. #Iraq was set on a very dark path filled with corruption, war lords and a weak government that was caring more for the interest of neighbors than Iraq’s interest ,to correct the course

3:57 PM - Oct 2, 2019   On Friday, Iraqi officials added 9 more deaths in the southern city of Nasiriya to the those killed previously, bringing the total to 42.

The response to the protests has drawn international opprobrium, with Amnesty International accusing Baghdad of using "lethal and unnecessary force."

The International Committee of the Red Cross has pointed to "increasingly violent clashes" between demonstrators and security forces and warned that "firearms and live ammunition must only be used as a last resort."

Iraq   Signtive in a room well here ya go spin this crap into a positive ?

Foxmulder   42 dead that was last month , not including the most recent in the past few weeks ! is there anybody here that can really give a positive response without creating a false narrative !

Madness   been reading some iraq headlnes, my goodness its not looking good for us this year from what I can gather

Baxter   Not good..

madness   looks like they are the verge of an all out war

Baxter   yep... thats my take as well

Baxter   but..OH... we gonna RV.... and SOON

madness   yeah ? right I dont see no rv I see a gov. being over thrown

Baxter   me too Madness

Baxter   I cant believe this is happening after all of this time

spankie   getting rid of the same ole gov too much corruption

Baxter   so much time wasted

madness   they are so corrupt they are willing to destroy the country instead of giving the people their purchase power, just mind blowing

Baxter   yes.. it is

spankie   madness sounds like Maliki

madness   I can see the UN and US putting back sanctions back on them, darn the dime is back on life support

madness   yeah its amazing 1 guy can cause so much turmoil and still be alive

madness   maliki needs to be taken out or we and the iraq people will never get a fair shake, getting to think as long as he is alive, well never see an rv

Baxter   probably correct on that

spankie   totally agree w that

Baxter   Iran influence is getting worse instead of better..

spankie   maliki being alive says the corrupt are still in power- same ole gov

madness   and the idiot gurus chime in like everything is honkie dori oh its this week, banks are on alert, the only thing that these idiot gurus are on alert for, is how much money they can rob the weak minded fools that buy their BS

Baxter   Yes... I saw the word.."Pinging" this morning again.... that word had been lost for quite a while

madness   I thought pinging is when you test the speed of your internet connection

Baxter   it is... but the gurus..say its when the money computers are matching up.... LOL

Baxter   from around the world....

Baxter11-4-2019 Intel Guru MarkZ [via PDK] News from Zurich said hearing it appears going from west to east now...pinging in China and NZ…it may soon appear in US...We should know about 8pm tonight. [Pinging ensures that the computers can talk to each other. That they recognize each other's IP Address.] we are hearing this is all just logistics as China is about to take over from Treasury.

Madness   might let a little of my dinar go for now, cause I can plainly see I can just buy it back in Dec. cause this thing is for sure not going till next year, so we have time.

madness   and if they have an all out war, oh boy guess well all be waiting for a very long time, especially is they get sanctioned by the UN and it sounds like thats what there going to do

Zig   MarkZ: "Pinging ensures that the computers can talk to each other. That they recognize each other's IP Address"

Madness   . one day you will see your dime, thats a fact, but I think with the current situation we may have to wait

Baxter   OH... we will be lucky even next year now...

madness   hope im wrong, but logic does not dictate that

 Baxter   the IMF is never going to allow them Article 8 with the mess they are in.... never in a million years

madness   yeah I think that would just be common sense at this point

Baxter   absolutely

madness   and now they have the UN pissed off at them, soooo we wait

Baxter   yep.. that too...

Baxter   almost 300 dead...8000 injured... govt ready to collapse.... aint gonna happen

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larrykn   Abdul Mahdi: Government seeks to increase jobs and attract investment

Economy News - Baghdad:   Prime Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi said the government is seeking to increase jobs and attract investment.

"Iraq is keen to establish the best relations with the United States and its Arab and regional surroundings," Abdul Mahdi said while receiving a delegation from the US House of Representatives, led by Democratic Representative Adam Smith, who is chairman of the Armed Services Committee.

He added that the government is serious about the reform process since the beginning of its formation and is continuing to implement its reform plans and procedures and has submitted many draft laws that meet the rights and demands of the Iraqi people in reforming the political and economic system and achieving their aspirations for a decent life, in addition to continuous pursuit.

To increase job opportunities, attract investment and provide a safe and stable environment that will help to drive reconstruction, construction and employment of young people.

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larrykn   Abdul Mahdi: Government seeks to increase jobs and attract investment

Economy News - Baghdad:   Prime Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi said the government is seeking to increase jobs and attract investment.

"Iraq is keen to establish the best relations with the United States and its Arab and regional surroundings," Abdul Mahdi said while receiving a delegation from the US House of Representatives, led by Democratic Representative Adam Smith, who is chairman of the Armed Services Committee.

He added that the government is serious about the reform process since the beginning of its formation and is continuing to implement its reform plans and procedures and has submitted many draft laws that meet the rights and demands of the Iraqi people in reforming the political and economic system and achieving their aspirations for a decent life, in addition to continuous pursuit.

To increase job opportunities, attract investment and provide a safe and stable environment that will help to drive reconstruction, construction and employment of young people.

 http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18133

larrykn   Rafidain confirms the availability of sufficient financial liquidity to distribute salaries

Banks Economy News _ Baghdad    Al-Rafidain Bank on Sunday confirmed the availability of sufficient financial liquidity in all its branches in Baghdad and the provinces to be distributed as salaries for employees, retirees and even private outlet owners.

The bank's information office said in a statement received by The Economy News, that the bank continues through its branches to pay salaries of state employees, retirees and other categories, as well as the distribution of the benefits of private outlet owners without interruption after large sums of money were allocated to feed its branches.

The bank invited employees and retirees to visit one of its branches and receive his salary at any time.

http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18127

larrykn   Rafidain Bank announces 5 types of loans

Banks Economy News - Baghdad:  Rafidain Bank identified the types of loans and advances it gives to employees and citizens and varied between personal advances andthe purchase or renovation of investment housing units and addition upon them.

The bank's information office said in a statement received by "Economy News" a copy of it, that the bank's services to citizens and employees included loans of investment housing units of 100 million dinars to employees and 50 million dinars for citizens to ensure a guarantor and be laid off The sponsor for employees whose salaries are provided exclusively with the bank."

The bank confirmed that the construction loans to citizens amounting to 50 million dinars after the provision of a real estate bond for residential land, provided that the area is 200 meters or a building permit is approved in the name of the loan student exclusively for a period of ten years.

"The advances ofthe employees of the home state departments are paid exclusively by the bank alone, the highest of 25 million dinars and the electronic submission from the bank's branches," he said.

The bank noted that there are loans for the purpose of renovating and rehabilitating residential houses or adding a building of 30 million dinars for citizens and 50 million dinars for employees in exchange for mortgages on the property to be rehabilitated in addition to loans basmaya residential without sponsor. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18123

spankie   above statement says 100 mil iqd to employees and 50 mil iqd to citizens for new home loans- employees must mean gov- double amount—hmm

chattels   Sunday, November 3, 2019 Attempt at A General Strike In Iraq As Najaf-Tehran Stand Off Continues http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/11/attempt-at-general-strike-in-iraq-as.html

chattels   Bigger picture this has now become a test of wills between Ayatollahs Sistani and Ali Khamenei. More importantly it is unlikely that any of these elites will push through the structural changes which the protesters have called for.

chattels   Moqtada al-Sadr and Badr/Fatah List head Hadi Amiri are also in talks about a possible replacement for the premier. Sadr wants more including a new election law and voting, but that’s opposed by Amiri.

chattels   " ........... the prime minister’s adviser told the media he might head a transitional government rather than step down as President Barham Salah announced a few days ago. "

chattels   " ............ the UN is a creature of its membership, ........ the Iraqi and Syrian governments are members of the UN. Iraqi protesters and Syrian Kurds are not. This is why it behaves the way it does." https://twitter.com/UticaRisk

chattels   Amid rising protests, PMU prevents confrontation with US Mustafa Saadoun November 3, 2019

 Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraq-pmu-fayyadh-iran.html#ixzz64JTSviMp

chattels   In an attempt to end tensions and avoid clashes between the PMU and US forces in Iraq, PMU leaders are trying to reassure the United States that its interests in Iraq are intact. The visit of PMU head Faleh al-Fayadh to Washington in early October was a clear indication of the above.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraq-pmu-fayyadh-iran.html#ixzz64JTbAZkH

chattels   Fascinating read. Nothing in Iraq is as it appears.

chattels   Arguably.

chattels   AGHDAD / NINA / The Central Bank of Iraq sold more than / 192 / million dollars at auction selling foreign currency today.

The bank said in a statement: "The total amount sold today, amounted to 192 million and 980 thousand and 938 dollars, with the participation of 30 banks and one company." https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=796219

chattels   Federal Court confirms: The Iraqi Constitution guaranteed the rights of citizens to express their opinion and to meet and peaceful demonstration https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=796241

chattels   Salam al-Shammari: Continuing the situation without an internal solution will lead to the imposition of international solutions   Monday 04 November 15:28 2019

chattels   "There are those who call for the intervention of the United Nations to form a government of national salvation on the basis of Iraq's return to Chapter VII of the UN Charter," he said in a news release.

Al-Shammari added that: Article 39 of the Security Council law and on Chapter VII be applied in countries experiencing unrest and lack of general stability or threaten international peace, either in them or on the world.

chattels   Back to Chapter 7 ? !

chattels   https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=796265

chattels   Democratic Representative and Chairman of the Armed Forces Committee Adam Smith in Iraq. Wonder if his appearance improved the economics of our prospects ?

Baxter   back to chapter 7 eh?

chattels   Baxter So that article speculates.

Baxter   i see that

chattels   Baxter " ............. Chapter VII be applied in countries experiencing unrest and lack of general stability or threaten international peace ........"

Baxter   thats them

chattels   Baxter This is when the gurus will declare that the state of affairs in Iraq has nothing to do with the value of the currency and it is all about Trump.

Baxter   they already have

Baxter   LAST Friday..... PTR called the protests... CELEBRATORY

Baxter   ;frying-pan-smash

chattels   Baxter I guess we could ask the 250 + dead people how celebratory things are over there.

Baxter   So true

Chattels   Baxter Weapons grade tear gas canisters fired directly at ..................

Baxter   https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/031120192

Baxter   Celebratory Protests.. :laugh

chattels   Baxter Too much celebration i suppose, ‘It is time for life to go back to normal’.

Baxter   yep

chattels   Protests continue in Baghdad despite violence https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/03112019

chattels   Happy pics !

Baxter   NBC NIGHTLY NEWS last night had a segment on the protests in Baghdad... it was not pretty

Baxter   their Celebratory Protests... Dancing in the Streets... :laugh

Baxter   so says.. P T R

JoeSchmoe   Baxter so does PTR still charge that $20 membership fee?

Baxter   20 a month

Baxter   yes

JoeSchmoe   really

Baxter   yes

JoeSchmoe   wow per month....

Baxter   yes a month

joeSchmoe   makes me wonder if these 'nay' sayers, for lack of a better word...because they think it 'could' happen....I wonder if they get paid by dealers for the back and forth

Crazycrypto   for the last 8-9 years i have got up and read dinar news

Crazycrypto   possiblle joe

Crazycrypto   i woudnt rule out anything

spankie   JoeSchmoe thats what I have always thought- getting people to buy and sell the iqd

spankie   bet not much iqd being sold

Crazycrypto   all i know is i bought my dinar many many years ago and get up read the news, read my local news and go about my day

Crazycrypto   all we can do

Crazycrypto   youll drive yourself nuts thinkin about this investment constantly

Crazycrypto   spankie true

Crazycrypto   not sure who is still buying dinar

spankie   like some say invest money u dont need

joeSchmoe   spankie I bought/invested when I had the money to do so

JoeSchmoe   10 years ago

JoeSchmoe   since then, work and money have dwindled

Crazycrypto   joe i hear ya man

Crazycrypto   its rough

spankie   u gotta sell sometimes-

Crazycrypto   but we wil get through it

JoeSchmoe   I have such little dinar that it would make no sense to sell back just to live comfortably for a month

Crazycrypto   spankie yes if i had bought millions i woud have sold some and kept a couple mill

JoeSchmoe   little relatively speaking

Crazycrypto   problem is i didnt buy alot

JoeSchmoe   me neither..relatively speaking

JoeSchmoe   but I do have enough to make me a bit financially independent....in my own means

Crazycrypto   yea same

Crazycrypto   when this happens ill be good to go

spankie   most people in usa are a month away from being broke-- inflation goes up without pay going up- no real good savings rates at the bank so no incentive to save anymore

Andrewhatidid   GOOD MORNING YALL !!! BEFORE I GET STARTED GUESS WHO'S BACK (Q Annon) Guess what is coming out soon FISA REPORT IG REPORT AND DECLAS GUESS WHEN REAL SOON WITH A BLANK OF EYE GUESS WHY THAT 1 IMA KEEP YOUR GUESSING "WINK WINK"

Clay   who is that

Zig   Google: "QAnon" is a far-right conspiracy theory detailing a supposed secret plot by an alleged "deep state" against U.S. President Donald Trump and his supporters."

Andrewhatidid   Zig everything he say his fact to the point the deep state try to shut him down and even hit the news

Andrewhatidid   Clay but yah Q is deep state enemy like liki weaks they say

Clay   Zig thanks

Clay   Andrewhatidid thanks

AndrewhatididClay for the loosers and haters not us but thats why after today it will be my last post Q will guide your with the rest of what to come remember i told your the R.V. the reset was deeper then that they was going to drain the swamp at the same time well guess whats coming

Andrewhatidid#3 Days after the deep state (The dems) Failure

(Happy Halloween)   #REFORM IS INEVITABLE !!!!

With Adel Abdul Mahdi Knowledge and great leader's in the current govt

A reform that was suppose to last a week or 2

To implement and then to Amend into the constitutions

Announcing the full agreement with the kurdistan

Passing Oil and Gas Law (H.C.L)

2020 Budget agreement Article 140 and etc........

The deep state in Iraq just kept kicking those things down the line  Then misleading the Iraqi people by saying is this current govt stopping them from elevating

All they had to do is let Mahdi pass those important stuff (To parliament and vote on it)

With completing his full cabinet

For the central bank of Iraq (C.B.I) to finally let the revaluation of the dinar happen and restoring Iraq

Because the C.B.I want to see an Alternative govt

Meaning a fully fulfill complete stable govt to let their people before the revaluation happen but the deep state so hate DONALD J TRUMP (POTUS) And what we doing so they had prefare to try and stop us instead then to blame us

But look what happens it back fire on them instead like always !!!!

1#They say you only could fool the 1's that know less more then you

(KNOWLEDGE IS POWER)!!!!

#PLAY TIME IS OVER !!!

# WE ALWAYS WIN NO MATTER WHAT !!!!

# SPEEDING UP THE PROCESS EVEN FASTER AT LAST !!!

# YOU TAKE YOUR SHOT AND MISS !!!

Biff   Sorry chat room is story is bogus :3 Nov 19, 05:38 PMbiffTo / ministries and entities not linked to the Ministry of all governorates and all provincial councils m / Warka Bank for Investment and Finance

According to the decision of the Board of Directors of this bank No. (7171) for the year 2019, we would like to inform you that Warka Bank for Investment and Finance has resumed its activities and provided banking services such as issuing letters of guarantee and letters of credit for the purpose of working with the bank through these activities and accepting letters of guarantee issued by it. I checked with my broker. The story is

larrykn   Rafidain issues a statement on financial commissions on the owners of the outlet offices

Economy News – Baghdad   Al-Rafidain Bank on Monday denied that it imposed an additional financial commission on the owners of private outlet offices in exchange for receiving their payments from the bank's branches in Baghdad and the provinces.

"The news that some are circulating about the increase in the amount of administrative commission for private outlet owners is unfounded," the bank's press office said in a statement seen by Economy News.

"The commission is fixed and will not change and employees, retirees or private office owners will have to receive their financial dues from the bank's branches in Baghdad and the provinces in order to provide sufficient financial liquidity," he said.

http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18137

larrykn   Iraq opens a "sober story" for trade with Syria

Economy News – Baghdad   Iraq is rehabilitating a bank completely destroyed by the terrorist group ISIS, which will soon open to trade with Syria through the only current border crossing between the two countries.

"The process of rehabilitating a branch of al-Rasheed Bank, in the judiciary, west of Anbar, has begun to deposit a tax and the money for syrian trucks entering the country," said Ahmed Gedyan, the head of iraq's border area with Syria, in a statement quoted by Sputnik news.

"The bank's branch is completely destroyed, inside al-Qaim, which is about 300 metres from the border crossing with the Syrian city of Albu Kamal," he said.

"The bank only has a non-destructive wing, which is being rehabilitated, because of the heavy amount of money deposited from trucks entering Syria, iraq, tax, and others," he said.

Gideon revealed that the bank's wing will open very soon, noting that the only place where the money will be deposited in and out of trucks currently stopped is because the large funds are available only through the fortified fortress.

"Work on the rehabilitation of the al-Rasheed Government Bank wing in the city has been going on since last month," he said.

He explained the reasons for the delay in resolving the entry order, and the exit of commercial trucks between the two countries, through the port to the decision issued in accordance with the agreement between the Iraqi and Syrian sides, which stipulates that Syrian truck drivers must review the Iraqi embassy, in Damascus, to obtain a multilateral visa.

"The resolution also applies, and Iraqi truck drivers must review the Syrian embassy in Baghdad to obtain a multilateral visa, so that they can cross through the port, as well as Syrian trucks," he said. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18140

larrykn   Iraqi PM Calls for Return to Normalcy Amid Protests’ Wave https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44571/Iraqi-PM-Calls-for-Return-to-Normalcy-Amid-Protests-Wave

larrykn   Protesters attack Iranian consulate in Karbala, amid ongoing unrest https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44573/Protesters-attack-Iranian-consulate-in-Karbala-amid-ongoing-unrest

Dave   Howdy all....  ...so Iraq is still under UN ch7 sanctions.

Dave   just wonder how Iraq can go global when under Ch 7.......

Dave   yet some fantasize about an eminent RV......?

Dave   apparently those Cabal forces or some Deep State are running the show?

biff   Hey Dave that Article is Bogus ;dog;

Dave   ch7?

biff   Warka Bank

biff   I checked the site it came from

Dave   was taking about an earlier post indicating ch7

biff   Frank will be on at 4:30 I will address it

Dave   Know nuttin about Cabal forces or Deep State

Biff    Yesterday I posted

biffff   Sorry chat room is story is bogus :3 Nov 19, 05:38 PMbiffTo / ministries and entities not linked to the Ministry of all governorates and all provincial councils m / Warka Bank for Investment and Finance

According to the decision of the Board of Directors of this bank No. (7171) for the year 2019, we would like to inform you that Warka Bank for Investment and Finance has resumed its activities and provided banking services such as issuing letters of guarantee and letters of credit for the purpose of working with the bank through these activities and accepting letters of guarantee issued by it. I checked with my broker. The story is ;step-in-it

 Biff   Bogus Dave

 Dave  https://sanctionsmap.eu/#/main/details/19/?search=%7B%22value%22:%22%22,%22searchType%22:%7B%7D%7D   

biffF   ood For Oil

Dave   biff and more restrictions

Dave   the whole colum is full of restiction

biff   Thats not good if Delta put that info out

Dave   Canada and Australia reveal the same restrictions

Biff   The CBI has control over Warka Bank

Dave   biff Delta......? this is from UN EU Canada and Australias websites

biff   They did not release them. He also posted a letter from the CBI

biff   NO CBI

Dave   there was a restriction Rafidian Banks

Dave   that appears to be gone now

biff   CBI took over Warka and under their control

Dave   CBI controls ALL banking in Iraq

biff   true

biff   he will be on at 4

biff   ill be back 

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Portmagaland    Paul Begley is reporting on Yourube tha Iranian General Soleimani has taken over Baghdad to quell the protests. I dont the extent of it, but if true, well .....  

Portmagaland   Yourube that's funny. Should be YouTube

biff   Guys Warka Bank is open!!!!

biff   ;$$$

Portmagaland   biff Warka Bank, what's that?

biff   Warka Bank of Investment and Finance released from CBI

Portmagaland   biff But the dinar is still at 1190, no?

biff   I know its still at 1190. I want my bank shares transfer to my brokerage

Baxter   My Dimes..My DImes.. My Dimes..

PM biff   lol

Sparky   biff ... released from CBI oversight ?

Portmagaland   I'm with Baxter

biff   yes

Portmagaland   So, how does this translate for the future of the dinar, anything?

IQD CALLS Chat Sunday Night 11-3-19

Portmagaland    Paul Begley is reporting on Yourube tha Iranian General Soleimani has taken over Baghdad to quell the protests. I dont the extent of it, but if true, well .....   https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qASj3wMo__Q   

Portmagaland   https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qASj3wMo__Q

Portmagaland   Yourube that's funny. Should be YouTube

biff   Guys Warka Bank is open!!!!

biff   ;$$$

Portmagaland   biff Warka Bank, what's that?

biff   Warka Bank of Investment and Finance released from CBI

Portmagaland   biff But the dinar is still at 1190, no?

biff   I know its still at 1190. I want my bank shares transfer to my brokerage

Baxter   My Dimes..My DImes.. My Dimes..

PM biff   lol

Sparky   biff ... released from CBI oversight ?

Portmagaland   I'm with Baxter

biff   yes

Portmagaland   So, how does this translate for the future of the dinar, anything?

Baxter   they will turn all the dinar.. into Iranian Rial...and we are KAPUT

Portmagaland   biff So, you invested in the bank and your investment has been locked up and you can know get your investment money back?

biff   Really dont know how it translates but it open now

Portmagaland   Baxter That sounds bad

Baxter   i KNOW

Portmagaland   Baxter So, dinar is useless now?

Baxter   OH.... I dont know

Baxter   just kidding

biff   Electronic Transfer

Portmagaland   Baxter I have Rial too, so .....

Sparky   biff .. I be got a Warka account...and sound's like good news to me...

Portmagaland   Playing both sides of the fence

biff   I have Warka since 2005

Sparky   Portmagaland ...hard currency, and electronic...

biff   yes

biff   and stocks on the ISX

Portmagaland   Sparky So, you and biff opened accounts with this Warka bank and have had funds frozen for over a decade,. I'm lost on this Warka news, first I've heard of it.

biff   they were not frozen over a decade

Portmagaland   biff But they were frozen

biff   check the web sites

biff   greayt news

Portmagaland   Warka is Iraqi then?

biff   yes Port

biff   Sunni

Sparky   biff ...sounds great to me !

Portmagaland   If so why is Baxter mentioning Iran?

Portmagaland   So Iran is Sunni

biff   Maliki tried to raid it lol

biff   Iran Persian

Sparky   Portmagaland ...no...shia..

biff  *

Portmagaland   So, Bax is  messing with me

Portmagaland   I see he said he was kidding, so this is good news then, checking out their website now

biff   Wouldnt touch rial

Portmagaland   biff Too late, have it for awile now

biff   thats currency is ;step-in-it

Baxter   yes... the Rial is done for....

Sparky   biff ...*

Portmagaland   biff I've had the dinar longer and it's done the same for me as the Rial

biff   I transfered all my dinar note to Warka years ago

biff   you trade dinars you trade rial

Portmagaland   biff What do you mean, your transferred all your dinar notes to Warka, how did you do that?

biff   cant trade rials

Sparky   biff ...got an account in 2011 @ 6.5. % interest..

biff   Fedex

biff   true   Sparky

Portmagaland   biff You fedex your money to Warka in Iraq?

biff   yes

Portmagaland   biff That sounds nuts

biff   all 10 pounds

biff   lol

biff   I kept all my receipts on this investment

Portmagaland   biff What if they received your funds and told you you only sent in half? I just dont trust sending any kind of cash in the mail

Portmagaland   He said, she said

biff   it went to my account

Portmagaland   Anyways, it worked out for you, so good

Sparky   Portmagaland ...no guarantee we can ever get it out...

biff   you cound back in the day

Portmagaland   Sounds like you guys can get out now, no?

biff   Warka and Citi Bank are doing business

Sparky   biff ... I'll be happy to wait it out...

biff   not yet

Sparky   biff ... yup...have been for years..

biff   since 2005

Sparky   biff Citi is all into this ...

biff   I just sit back listen to the Gurus

biff   yes

biff   jamie diamond

Portmagaland   biff I just hope this is a good sign for things to come, but I'm not holding my breath

biff   All wires Iraqi Banks to Citi Bank

Sparky   biff ...only for one reason...profit...in a big way...imo...

biff   It does not phase me. I invested with money I could afford

Portmagaland   I hope you guys got your 6% interest while they froze your accounts, I dont how that works

biff   I tried to tell to some gurus they just blew me off

biff   I think there will be taxes

Sparky   biff ... could have put it in a CD for 10. % interest...

Portmagaland   biff Of course

biff   The brokerage sent me a w9 last moonth

biff   month

Portmagaland   So, did Warka just unfreeze today?

biff   yes

biff   I want my warka bank shares

Portmagaland   I went to their site not seeing anything referencing this

biff   I have the bank share certificate

Portmagaland   Like, a re-grand opening banner or headline

biff   Can we paste on this forum

Portmagaland   Yes

biff   i will find it

Portmagaland   They have 350 arms in Iraq, that's not much

Portmagaland   ATMS

Portmagaland   I see Facebook has a Warka Bank Victims Group

Portmagaland   They probably have a victim's group for Dinar holders as well and Sam I Am probably created it.

Portmagaland   Theres a lot of old discussions about Warka, sounds bad. Apparently, Breitling pushed Warka in 2013

Portmagaland   Bruce has voluntarily put a gag order on himself. Does this lead credence to the NDAs that the Gurus like to pump. This is funny stuff.

Sparky   Portmagaland ...there will be a special place for Bruce...

Sparky   Portmagaland ...not sure he's going to like it though...lol..m

Sparky   Portmagaland ...good news for him,... he'll be near Tony and Dan... checkmate...

Portmagaland   Sparky Its just funny. I'm under a gag order, I can no longer talk. Says who? Me.

Sparky   Portmagaland ... I've just released myself from my own gag order..

Portmagaland   Lol

Sparky   biff ...bristling talks in circular logic...imo...hard to follow

biff   To / ministries and entities not linked to the Ministry of all governorates and all provincial councils m / Warka Bank for Investment and Finance

According to the decision of the Board of Directors of this bank No. (7171) for the year 2019, we would like to inform you that Warka Bank for Investment and Finance has resumed its activities and provided banking services such as issuing letters of guarantee and letters of credit for the purpose of working with the bank through these activities and accepting letters of guarantee issued by it.

https://static.mubasher.info/File.Mix_Announcement_File/3042C234-A951-4AE0-9F68-BE9BD7FB5127.pdf

Sparky   ....nice...

biff   In 2005 I had to account with the Housing Bank of Jordan to get and account with Warka

biff   In 2006 its went to shoit with the banks and the ISX

Sparky   ...Chargers banging up Green Bay...

biff   Go Pack

Sparky   biff ... halftime 9 zip LAC...

Sparky   biff ...you were over there in 2005?

biff   Warka bank is owned by Al Bunnia Family in Baghdad thet are Sunni. Maliki tried to loot them but the CBI closed it down

biff   I was in Kuwait

biff   I got all my dinars in Kuwait

Sparky   biff ...ok... I remember you mentioning that...

biff   never bought in the USA

Portmagaland   biff sounds like Breitl8ng turned you on to Warka?

Sparky   biff ... thanks for the good news and article...

biff   Rip off artist out of Vegas

Portmagaland   Sparky Who knows, maybe this good news is why Bruce is on a self-imposed NDA?

Portmagaland   biff He's apparently on a self imposed NDA and it could very well be tied into the news you set forth today?

biff   The website " Mr IQD " exposes them all

Portmagaland   biff M . IQD sounds like Sam I am

chattels   High level Iraqi political source: Iraqi government & parliament wait for protesters to withdraw due to fatigue & hopelessness.

http://wataniq.com/news?ID=45891

chattels   Prominent (but unnamed) Iraqi politician says there is an agreement between Sadr’s Sairoon Coalition & Ameri’s Fatah Coalition for PM Abdel-Mahdi to not resign.

http://wataniq.com/news?ID=45889

Sparky   chattels ...now there's a government for the people...

Baxter   Chattels.... that has to be a record for the shortest article..

Baxter   short and sweet I guess..

chattels   In Iraq, 4 protesters killed in front of Iranian consulate in Karbala.

http://mobp.as/BtD2p

chattels   Leader of Iraqi Asa’ib Ahl al-Haqq militia: there is a 3 way conspiracy by Israel, UAE & one of the 3 Iraqi presidents to spread chaos in Iraq. A top Iraqi security official is also involved. CIA & Mossad have intelligence station at Baghdad Airport.    LINK  

chattels   Iraqi PM Abdel-Mahdi in address to nation: security forces have not fired on peaceful protesters. They are protecting barriers & vital facilities from those breaking the law. We will investigate types of weapons security forces use to protect themselves. http://mobp.as/rkA2p

chattels   Iraqi PM Abdel-Mahdi to the nation: the protests have exceeded their goals. We know what needs to be done. Now is time for affairs to return to natural. Protests are negatively affecting the nation & its development through blocking of roads & ports. http://mobp.as/rkA2p

chattels   PM Abdul Mahdi said he wont step down until replacement named Fatah & Nasr lists deadlocked over that matter meaning premier will be able to stay on indefinitely

https://almadapaper.net/view.php?cat=222441

chattels   PM Abdul Mahdi and General Suleimani reportedly convinced Sadr to drop demand for PM to step down LINK

chattels   The Parliament couldn't, wouldn't and didn't vote a no confidence as to Maliki back in the day and it appears that it is the same for Mahdi. Too much uncertainty and / or they cannot agree upon anyone else for the job. Political dysfunction and gridlock.

chattels   Inaction seems to be preferable to action with unknown consequences.

foxmulder   chattels same ole same ole , the people perish from lack of vision

foxmulder   chattels DITTO

chattels   ‘It is time for life to go back to normal’: Iraqi PM on protests

  https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/031120192

Baxter   They just had a segment of Baghdad on NBC nightly news...showing the protests.... unbelievable..

Baxter   what a mess... what a mess....and we are gonna have an RV? ;frying-pan-smash

foxmulder   Baxter tribal mentality ! Religious Ideology. Mix them together and what do you get ? IRAQ .. shaken and stirred . Corruption , lies , deception , utter ruthlessness concerning basic needs and concerns .. yes sir what a mess!

Baxter   This country is beyond help

Wheresmyrv?   Baxter bigtime

Baxter   yep

Wheresmyrv?   Baxter you think after 15 years this would have been done by now

Baxter   wouldnt you though

Wheresmyrv?   I wouldn't be surprised if this carried out another 5 more years

Baxter   very well could

Baxter   or .. it could never happen

Wheresmyrv?   True that

Baxter   if they lose the govt... we are kaput

Wheresmyrv?   Democracy isn't working for them over there

Baxter   no..not at all... they have had a thousand years of this... dont know any better

Baxter   its their way of life

Wheresmyrv?   Saddam was right when he said if they remove him from power that the country will go straight to hell, he was right

Baxter   yes..im afraid he was

Wheresmyrv?   Its so sad, I feel for the people over there that has to live with all that bs corruption and lies told to them everyday

Baxter   so do i

Wheresmyrv?   No power, no water, Good grief

Wheresmyrv?   While the goi members are living it up lavishly in their mansions

Baxter   i would be upset too.... after all of this time

Wheresmyrv?   God help them poor people...

Wheresmyrv?   They don't have any weapons to fight back I don't think

Wheresmyrv?   Just rocks

Baxter   not much

Wheresmyrv?   Cant go up against the Iranian guard with their high powered rifles

Baxter   not hardly

spankie   doubt if they are selling much deenar these days---

 larrykn   Abdul Mahdi: Government seeks to increase jobs and attract investment

Economy News - Baghdad:   Prime Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi said the government is seeking to increase jobs and attract investment.

"Iraq is keen to establish the best relations with the United States and its Arab and regional surroundings," Abdul Mahdi said while receiving a delegation from the US House of Representatives, led by Democratic Representative Adam Smith, who is chairman of the Armed Services Committee.

He added that the government is serious about the reform process since the beginning of its formation and is continuing to implement its reform plans and procedures and has submitted many draft laws that meet the rights and demands of the Iraqi people in reforming the political and economic system and achieving their aspirations for a decent life, in addition to continuous pursuit.

To increase job opportunities, attract investment and provide a safe and stable environment that will help to drive reconstruction, construction and employment of young people.

 http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18133

larrykn   Rafidain confirms the availability of sufficient financial liquidity to distribute salaries

Banks

Economy News _ Baghdad    Al-Rafidain Bank on Sunday confirmed the availability of sufficient financial liquidity in all its branches in Baghdad and the provinces to be distributed as salaries for employees, retirees and even private outlet owners.

The bank's information office said in a statement received by The Economy News, that the bank continues through its branches to pay salaries of state employees, retirees and other categories, as well as the distribution of the benefits of private outlet owners without interruption after large sums of money were allocated to feed its branches.

The bank invited employees and retirees to visit one of its branches and receive his salary at any time. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18127

larrykn   Rafidain Bank announces 5 types of loans

Banks

Economy News - Baghdad:  Rafidain Bank identified the types of loans and advances it gives to employees and citizens and varied between personal advances andthe purchase or renovation of investment housing units and addition upon them.

The bank's information office said in a statement received by "Economy News" a copy of it, that the bank's services to citizens and employees included loans of investment housing units of 100 million dinars to employees and 50 million dinars for citizens to ensure a guarantor and be laid off The sponsor for employees whose salaries are provided exclusively with the bank."

The bank confirmed that the construction loans to citizens amounting to 50 million dinars after the provision of a real estate bond for residential land, provided that the area is 200 meters or a building permit is approved in the name of the loan student exclusively for a period of ten years.

"Theadvances ofthe employees of the home state departments are paid exclusively by the bank alone, the highest of 25 million dinars and the electronic submission from the bank's branches," he said.

The bank noted that there are loans for the purpose of renovating and rehabilitating residential houses or adding a building of 30 million dinars for citizens and 50 million dinars for employees in exchange for mortgages on the property to be rehabilitated in addition to loans basmaya residential without sponsor. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18123

 

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Baxter   RRRRR WEEEEE RIIIIIIICH YEEEEEETTTTT????? ;ice-cream;

Doug_W   but of course where U been we all cahsed in

Portmagaland    Dave Those Canadian coins are 80%,. There's someone sailing those on Craigslist in Seattle. I just got $50 face value Eisinhower dimes and $10 face value Washington quarters at spot off Craigslist.

Portmagaland    Selling

Portmagaland   Wish I was sailing2 Nov 19, 06:12 PMFrancis Albertdeleting the zeros from the exchange rate.....as stated by CBI is quite different from the "LOP" Kap continues to pitch. I think he's just off base on this one, or the CBI is just making stuff up..which is possible too :)

Sam I Am   Francis Albert The CBI's plan is a textbook redenomination or "lop". You don't remove zeros from the exchange rate in a revaluation. You just raise the value.

You don't issue a new currency in a revaluation either. Nor do you put together a PSA or education campaign to inform the public about the upcoming changes in their currency with a revaluation. All are indications of an RD, not an RV.

IQD CALLS Chat Early Sunday 11-3-19

Baxter   RRRRR WEEEEE RIIIIIIICH YEEEEEETTTTT????? ;ice-cream;

Doug_W   but of course where U been we all cahsed in

Portmagaland    Dave Those Canadian coins are 80%,. There's someone sailing those on Craigslist in Seattle. I just got $50 face value Eisinhower dimes and $10 face value Washington quarters at spot off Craigslist.

Portmagaland    Selling

Portmagaland   Wish I was sailing2 Nov 19, 06:12 PMFrancis Albertdeleting the zeros from the exchange rate.....as stated by CBI is quite different from the "LOP" Kap continues to pitch. I think he's just off base on this one, or the CBI is just making stuff up..which is possible too :)

Sam I Am   Francis Albert The CBI's plan is a textbook redenomination or "lop". You don't remove zeros from the exchange rate in a revaluation. You just raise the value.

You don't issue a new currency in a revaluation either. Nor do you put together a PSA or education campaign to inform the public about the upcoming changes in their currency with a revaluation. All are indications of an RD, not an RV.

Chattels   Protests continue in Baghdad despite violence

1 HOUR AGO https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/03112019

chattels   Will the protests in Iraq create an intra-Shiite conflict? https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/021120191

chattels   Protests in Iraq: Causes, Consequences, and the Quds Force  The Warcast

November 1, 2019 https://warontherocks.com/episode/warcast/21277/protests-in-iraq-causes-consequences-and-the-quds-force/

chattels   The central bank sells more than $ 169 million at a currency auction

Sunday 03 November 13:47 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=796094

Francis Albert   Predicting when the Iraqi Dinar will take the first real step to increase in value is a fools game. This, however, may help those in "distress" over chaos in Iraq. For grins, let's just throw out a January 1, 2020 kickoff for something significant. ( A reasonable conjecture). If you, investor,

Francis Albert   If you investor, "believed" a Jan 1 date is important, how would you feel about your financial future right now? Really, how would you feel about this thing? I just made up the date, but it is a "reasonable" guess. Take heart, "All good things in all good time."

larrykn   Francis Albert Jan 1 is a good date but the question is what year lol

Francis Albert   touch'e

Francis Albert   If I knew that for sure Larry, I would also have a nice bridge to sell you.

larrykn   I don't look for dates just actions on their part. so far I'm still looking

Francis Albert   Well, you may give them a bit of slack Larry. Iraq has been doing quite a bit of hoop jumping the past year, quite a bit. When you only work 50 days a year and have lots of hands in cookie jars, things take time :)

Larrykn   when you have half the politicians out there not wanting changes and half do, its called a stalemate/ so we wait and see

larrykn   The sad thing is we have these Gurus out there calling for a RV everyday, and we have new people coming in believing them and then they come in here to see if its true or not.

For me this will take time and no one knows when , all we can do is read the news and pray that Iraq gets themself together long enough to get laws passed and Articles implemented.

 

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Chattels    Baghdad - Hamza Mustafa

The Commission of Integrity, an entity connected with the Iraqi judiciary, said that warrants were issued to arrest and summon 60 Iraqi officials on corruption chargers.

A statement by the commission said that the warrants targeted ministers and ex-ministers, several members of parliament, in addition to governors and local officials.

According to the statement, a minister and five lawmakers and two ex-ministers have been summoned.

This is the second wave of warrants announcement since October when 38 officials faced allegations of fraud.

Chattels   11-1-2019 Intel Guru MarkZ Hearing that they have already started floating close to a 1 to 1 parity. I am waiting to hear back from my contractor over there and a confirmation from him. I heard that many people were asked to be quiet...i was not asked...Big expectations for this weekend...

chattels   Iraq protests enter second month, defying pledges of reform

IQD CALLS Chat Early Saturday 11-2-19

Chattels    Baghdad - Hamza Mustafa

The Commission of Integrity, an entity connected with the Iraqi judiciary, said that warrants were issued to arrest and summon 60 Iraqi officials on corruption chargers.

A statement by the commission said that the warrants targeted ministers and ex-ministers, several members of parliament, in addition to governors and local officials.

According to the statement, a minister and five lawmakers and two ex-ministers have been summoned.

This is the second wave of warrants announcement since October when 38 officials faced allegations of fraud. https://aawsat.com/english/home/article/1972831/amid-protests-authorities-issue-warrants-arrest-summon-60-officials-iraq

Chattels   11-1-2019 Intel Guru MarkZ Hearing that they have already started floating close to a 1 to 1 parity. I am waiting to hear back from my contractor over there and a confirmation from him. I heard that many people were asked to be quiet...i was not asked...Big expectations for this weekend...

chattels   Iraq protests enter second month, defying pledges of reform

4 hours ago https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/02112019

chattels   More than 250 people have died and 10,000 have been wounded in the past month as protests evolved into calls for the "downfall of the regime".

chattels   The movement is unique in Iraqi history because of its condemnation of the political and religious class wholesale.

chattels   Parliament has been meeting every day to pressure Abdul-Mahdi to come in for questioning, but he has so far resisted.

Ameri hinted at the paralysis on Friday, saying Iraq's "parliamentary system has failed and is useless" and called for "fundamental constitutional amendments."

chattels   "parliamentary system has failed and is useless"

chattels   David M. Witty @DavidMWitty1

 Iraqi Speaker of Parliament: we will work on amending the constitution with representatives from the protesters. https://twitter.com/DavidMWitty1?lang=en

chattels   How will the Iraqi Parliament be able to amend the constitution when they have a difficult time making quorum or passing a law ?

chattels   Amendment procedure - Article 142 of the constitution states that the Council of Representatives shall form a committee from its members "representing the principal components of the Iraqi society", which should present proposed amendments to the Council within four months.

[1] The amendment package shall be voted on as a whole by the Council, and if it is passed, put to a referendum, which shall pass if approved by a majority of voters and is not rejected by a two-thirds majority in three or more governates. The conditions for this referendum are the same as the conditions for the original ratification referendum.

The constitution can also be amended by a general procedure, laid down in Article 126, which requires a two-thirds approval in the Council of Ministers, followed by approval by a simple majority in a referendum.

chattels   Two thirds approval by Parliament ?

chattels   Oct 31 Pres Salah said new PM has to be found before Abdul Mahdi can step down new election law drafted which before voting  http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/11/pm-abdul-mahdi-ready-to-step-down-will.html  …

chattels   Abdul Mahdi could resign and Pres Salah would become head of govt until new elections but Salah is not only a Kurd but might actually try to carry out changes which ruling elite would be opposed to

chattels   Process of creating a new Iraqi govt matters because if the ruling parties just get to put together a new govt that mirrors the old ones will not satisfy the protesters Can the elite carry out real change or will they just change the face of the govt? http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/11/pm-abdul-mahdi-ready-to-step-down-will.html  …

chattels   https://twitter.com/JoelWing2   

chattels   Al-Amin said in a statement to NINA news agency that "Iraq's monthly revenues of crude is estimated at more than 6 billion dollars, according to the statement of the Ministry of Oil yesterday ..

According to this statement, Iraq during the year estimated revenues of crude alone 72 billion dollars and added to the revenues of airports, customs and transit Taxes may raise Iraq's revenues to the threshold of $ 100 billion annually, so planners to the budget of Iraq for next year to accurately map outlets to spend this amount to ensure the provision of services and the elimination of unemployment and the development of productive sectors and curtail import.

chattels   The economist continued: that the distribution of revenues among the people in a fair manner and achieve serious development in the productive sectors and the provision of services and the fight against corruption with direct industrial investment projects can make Iraq a growing economic power depends on its revenues to achieve the welfare of its citizens.

chattels   https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=795912

 chattels   Tarek Harb: There is no constitutional provision that prevents the caretaker government from preparing the draft budget law

Saturday 02 November 10:21 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=795906

chattels   He explained that "articles 57 and 62 of the Constitution and the annual budget obliged the government to prepare a draft budget law and send it to parliament and there is no in them or in other provisions of the Constitution of the House of Representatives and the Council of Ministers, even if implicitly to what some say that the caretaker government can not prepare

The budget has been confirmed the subject of the preparation of the draft budget law, whether the government is full powers or the conduct of business in the Financial Management Law No. 6 of 2019, which was published in the Official Gazette.

chattels   I presume that Harb has opined as aforesaid given the reports that the budget will be delayed if Mahdi is removed or steps down without a replacement at hand.

chattels   Salih stressed that Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi agreed to resign within the “constitutional contexts.” The president said, “There is an urgent need for reforms in Iraq ... and a comprehensive national dialogue is in the works,” pointing out that the existing system has become unsustainable and that fixing it is one of main demands of the protests, which started in early October.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraq-protests-barham-salih-reforms.html#ixzz647Gwv9UI

chattels   Abdul Mahdi has offered to resign if a replacement is found for him. This means parliament would have to vote to dismiss the prime minister according to Article 64 of the Constitution, which further states that early elections are to be organized within 60 days following the dissolution.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraq-protests-barham-salih-reforms.html#ixzz647H3lPgF

chattels   Sources close to Salih told Al-Monitor on condition of anonymity that the president tried to persuade the heads of major parliamentary blocs to discuss a new electoral law and announce their intention to hold early elections, but that they decided instead to deliberate on the name of the person to lead the transition and serve as a caretaker.

The sources said that the real dispute is not really over early elections as much as it is related to the form of the future government and that it is likely that the dispute over the electoral law will last longer than expected.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraq-protests-barham-salih-reforms.html#ixzz647HBvSBB

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chattels   “After reviewing the president’s pledges, we do not believe they fulfill the protesters’ demands, foremost of which is dismissing the government and setting a time limit for elections as well as amending the constitution. The president does not have wide powers to keep his promises and the political blocs have not yet announced their support of his pledges,” he added.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraq-protests-barham-salih-reforms.html#ixzz647HWHGXj

chattels   What a mess.

chattels   Reidar Visser @reidarvisser

There's a good deal of confusion re latest speech by #Iraq president Barham Salih about ongoing protests. He does not have the power to call fresh elections but jointly with the PM he can suggest this to parliament and it will be put to an absolute majority vote (const art 64) https://twitter.com/reidarvisser

chattels   Even pro-Iranian Badr leader Hadi al-Ameri is now at least paying lip service to protesters' demand for system change in #Iraq. Ameri criticises failure of "parliamentary" system in Iraq and by implications hints at a stronger presidency http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=84434   …

chattels   ............... failure of "parliamentary" system in Iraq ..................

chattels   And that's the way that it is from the news that I read out of Iraq on this Saturday, November 2, 2019.

Doug_W   we are off on our normal Sat chrores

Baxter   thx Chattels... theres always next year... eh?

JoeSchmoe   I think everyone should STOP buying dinar, and keep the dealers out of business....****** Let's then see what happens to this thing? If there was no more, or very little selling of dinar, what then would happen with our endeavors?

JoeSchmoe   Are there enough newbies joining this thing to keep the dealers in business?

spakie   JoeSchmoe dealers making 20% both ways - sell/buy- easy con- they need a new script- who writes this anyway- lolbs

JoeSchmoe   If no one, or very little are buying, then who would be selling?

spakie   people that sre sick and tired of the bs

JoeSchmoe   with all the bs hype, and/or downplay(from groups like DP,etc) of this thing, that is where the buying is coming from.

JoeSchmoe   NO MORE buying. Let's then see where this thing goes....like that will ever happen anyways...

spakie   there are guys like toni* hypes $8 tomorrow-

JoeSchmoe   But if we could get those followers especially to stop buying dinar.....

JoeSchmoe   I would especially like to see if ***** sticks around if no one bought or sold from/to him

spankie   no money he would be gone--- we r the same-- in it for some possible money- but we do not scam others

Baxter   GO ahead and VENT you two... I need a picker upper this morning...

JoeSchmoe   need to get the word out to STOP buying!

Baxter   HA.. I havent bought in over 8 years

Baxter   My newest Dinar is even moldy

JoeSchmoe   Baxter I haven't bought in about nine years myself

JoeSchmoe   2010 last batch

Spankie   I am a big whale- tier 1 investor- dinar in a trust in a big safe waiting for news of $8 dollar rv- got the 800#- lol

tman23   Exchanged mine in Dubai February 2017. I did keep a couple million though just for an in case miracle happens... as I posted numerous times Iraq is a cesspool.

How many more times can you stand to see a post of a needed law and market economy .... back screen rates or news of in country rate... same regurgitate BS for years now .... and now you are witnessing the dancing in the streets LOL...

spankie   tman- hey bud- long no post- maybe riots will change things but will take years?

spankie   I totally agree w Iraq being a cesspool--what a mess and never gets better year after year

Zig   tman23 : "I did keep a couple million though just in case a miracle happens"...

tman23   The CBI governor was to be gone by 9/28 ... sitting in his seat still shows the PM is and was not running the show...IRAN is ..... Trump has zero investment in dinar and doesn’t believe in investing in the middle east ..... can you imagine him backing all that currency by exchanging usd for it?

Russia and China along with Iran would do all they could to crash Iraq and possibly the usd that backed the pink paper.... the oil argument goes directly to fossil fuel and climate change...the climate changers want to end oil PERIOD!

Lot of variables to consider but the spin put out by gurus is losing it’s velocity..... as I posted few weeks ago ... best word I have is some MAJOR FINANCIAL WEALTH is said to be the worlds biggest ever is going to happen on November 13..... not the exact words but you get the meaning so I’ll wait to see what happens on the 13th"...

Zig   tman23 : Thanks for cheering us up.... ;crying;

tman23   Zig My banker contact in Zurich is reporting 11.22 on the back screens

Zig   tman23 : :T-Y: That's more like it!.... 'happy-dance

tman23   not sure if it’s a rate or the dell monitor model number ... waiting on confirmation

Biff   Allawi is coming back I remember him from 2005.

biff   Allawi backed the USA. I was in country 2005

biff   tman23 an23I think the Dinar is going to float..

biff   Zig My banker contact in Zurich is reporting 11.22 on the back screens What!!!

biff   The agriculture sector is looking good

Crazycrypto   seems t man may have spoken too soon

Crazycrypto   The Council of Ministers is making new appointments to independent bodies

Crazycrypto   https://alforatnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=217513

Crazycrypto   Translation.... Munther Abdul Qader Al-Sheikhli Talab Governor of the Central Bank of Iraq

Crazycrypto   guess well see if this is accurate this is HUGE news!!

Crazycrypto   us alak finally going bye bye?

Crazycrypto   is he corrupt?

Crazycrypto   i think he may have been

Crazycrypto   never trusted that slimeball Alaq seemed to move to slow or was indeed in the hands of iran

Crazycrypto   e sure did get a nice comfy job at the arab league

biff   lol Crazycryptoe sure did get a nice comfy job at the arab league

Crazycrypto   yep my opinion the guy knew he was leaving and didnt care to do his job

Crazycrypto   for the citizens

Crazycrypto   seems the new guy wil get it done

Crazycrypto   hopefully in a timely manner lol

Baxter   SOON.....

Baxter   IN THE COMING DAYS

Crazycrypto   if true this is huge news

Crazycrypto   no more proxy alaq

Crazycrypto   did nothing!!!

Baxter   that is obvious

Crazycrypto   iranian puppet?

Doug_W    Baxter is that American SOOn or Iraq s-o-o-n?

Baxter   Take your pick..... I dont think it really matters

Doug_W   lol great reply

Doug_W   Silver:$18.22

biff   Doug where do you get your silver from?

Foxmulder   biff hey biff not sure about doug being in fla. but i buy mine at west road coin in Trenton Mich . best spot price

Dave   howdy folks......Actually have purchased silver coins off ebay for much less than melt value

Dave   rarely but sometimes for face value of the coins......

Dave   will pay 10.00 for a roll of old silver quarters all day......

Dave   https://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Canadian-Silver-Quarter-Uncirculated/202812595525?hash=item2f38929d45:g:3BIAAOSwtYRdvFLM

 

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IQD CALLS Chat Friday 11-1-19

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spankie   as long as Maliki is alive means Irans still got control- hang him and show the peeps things are changing

Doug_W   I say test Sadams rope over a thousand foot drop and make sure its still strong

 spankie   as long as the most corrupt person in Iraq lives says nothing is changed

Doug_W   time to get moving just wear long sleeves UGG

spankie   how many killed and how much stole

 Kountryway   figgered Maliki would be dead or in prison with his son by now.

Chattels   Iraq’s top Shiite cleric backs call for constitutional referendum

chattels   Iraqi Security: we have information on the new ISIS leader. He is of Iraqi origin but he was not close to Baghdadi. He is considered as from the 3rd rank of ISIS leaders. All those close to Baghdadi have been killed. More information in the coming days.

IQD CALLS Chat Friday 11-1-19

spankie   as long as Maliki is alive means Irans still got control- hang him and show the peeps things are changing

Doug_W   I say test Sadams rope over a thousand foot drop and make sure its still strong

 spankie   as long as the most corrupt person in Iraq lives says nothing is changed

Doug_W   time to get moving just wear long sleeves UGG

spankie   how many killed and how much stole

 Kountryway   figgered Maliki would be dead or in prison with his son by now.

Chattels   Iraq’s top Shiite cleric backs call for constitutional referendum https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/011120191

chattels   Iraqi Security: we have information on the new ISIS leader. He is of Iraqi origin but he was not close to Baghdadi. He is considered as from the 3rd rank of ISIS leaders. All those close to Baghdadi have been killed. More information in the coming days. http://mobp.as/GJ11p

 chattels   Friday, November 1, 2019  PM Abdul Mahdi Ready To Step Down Will It Satisfy The Protests? http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/11/pm-abdul-mahdi-ready-to-step-down-will.html

chattels   " ........... whether this will satisfy the demonstrators? They have called for the prime minister to step down, a new election law and balloting so President Salah’s announcement meets all those demands.

The process however matters, because if it’s just the ruling parties re-creating the current system, then the street will not be happy. The question has always been whether the political elite can really carry out change or will they just change the façade on the government."

chattels   Iran and the Kurdish parties are reportedly against this scenario and want Abdul Mahdi to stay in power. One of the prime minister’s main policies has been to restore budget payments to the Kurdistan region (KRG). In return, the KRG was supposed to export oil for the federal government, but has not.

Despite dozens of complaints about this from parliamentarians the premier has not punished the Kurds. In return, Irbil is one of the prime minister’s main supporters.

chattels   One of the prime minister’s main policies has been to restore budget payments to the Kurdistan region (KRG). In return, the KRG was supposed to export oil for the federal government, but has not. Despite dozens of complaints about this from parliamentarians the premier has not punished the Kurds. In return, Irbil is one of the prime minister’s main supporters.

chattels   Abdul Mahdi has also done nothing about pro-Iran Hashd groups who have carried out attacks on bases in Iraq that contain U.S. soldiers and attacked Saudi Arabia. Tehran has also been intimately involved in the suppression of the protests. Another important matter is whether this will satisfy the demonstrators?

chattels   Reidar Visser @reidarvisser   There's a good deal of confusion re latest speech by #Iraq president Barham Salih about ongoing protests. He does not have the power to call fresh elections but jointly with the PM he can suggest this to parliament and it will be put to an absolute majority vote (const art 64)

chattels   Article 64

First

The Council of Representatives may be dissolved by an absolute majority of the number of its members, or upon the request of one-third of its members by the Prime Minister with the consent of the President of the Republic. The Council shall not be dissolved during the period in which the Prime Minister is being questioned.

Second

Upon the dissolution of the Council of Representatives, the President of the Republic shall call for general elections in the country within a period not to exceed sixty days from the date of its dissolution. The Council of Ministers in this case is deemed resigned and continues to run everyday business.

chattels   https://www.constituteproject.org/constitution/Iraq_2005.pdf?lang=en

chattels   What are the chances that Iraqi MP's are going to vote themselves out of office ?

chattels   Allawi confirms Saleh: The solution now lies in holding early elections in the shadow of the judiciary and trade unions within two or three months

Friday 01 November 21:33 2019    https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=795868

chattels   China announces preliminary agreement with Washington on trade

Friday 01 November 23:08 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=795883

chattels   Iraqi president pledges early elections while protesters call for more radical solutions    Omar Sattar November 1, 2019

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraq-protests-barham-salih-reforms.html#ixzz6449JV0fN

chattels   The sources said that the real dispute is not really over early elections as much as it is related to the form of the future government and that it is likely that the dispute over the electoral law will last longer than expected.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraq-protests-barham-salih-reforms.html#ixzz6449rJMCt

Dave   New elections......????? seemingly the demonstrators demands are not being met?

spankie   JoeSchmoe everyone is freakin tired of the bs that goes on over there- win or lose i am in- good for the riots- now maybe something good will come out of it- just more time--

JoeSchmoe   spankie put it this way, I don't see how anyone can go in there to seek any support in this thing

JoeSchmoe   any attempt at seeking support gets shot in the gut by bobby or mark

spankie   sounds like the old bgg site- power trippers

spankie   here u speak ur peace good or bad and is ok--

spankie   piece-

 

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IQD CALLS Chat Thursday Night 10-31-19

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 Sparky   ... opening fire on protesters doesn't place us in a real good time frame for our shi T to go down...imo...

Sparky   ...there goes stability and security...down the f'n drain...

Sparky   ... they keep up their sh it, I'll cash out 50%... and won't look back...

spankie   never was any good- they are robbin the peeps - populace all broke- new gove is better than the same ole thing that has been going on. Now they after Abadi for corruption- thieves

Sparky   spankie ...daze of our lives... never ending saga... greedy fools holding up a lot of good times...

spankie   shooting protesters buried the now gov- need new one that fulfills promises instead of just talk

spankie   hope they burn the place down- so a new start

spankie   laterz spark

Sparky   spankie ...me too... I'll wait...but, won't watch...life's too short to waste my most precious commodity... time...

Sparky   ... on greedy, do nothing Iraqis...

Sparky   ...11 11 I'll b60...

Sparky   ...but... Happy Halloween...!!!!

Sparky   ...time for me, to go trick or treating...night owl...

IQD CALLS Chat Thursday Night 10-31-19

 Sparky   ... opening fire on protesters doesn't place us in a real good time frame for our shi T to go down...imo...

Sparky   ...there goes stability and security...down the f'n drain...

Sparky   ... they keep up their sh it, I'll cash out 50%... and won't look back...

spankie   never was any good- they are robbin the peeps - populace all broke- new gove is better than the same ole thing that has been going on. Now they after Abadi for corruption- thieves

Sparky   spankie ...daze of our lives... never ending saga... greedy fools holding up a lot of good times...

spankie   shooting protesters buried the now gov- need new one that fulfills promises instead of just talk

spankie   hope they burn the place down- so a new start

spankie   laterz spark

Sparky   spankie ...me too... I'll wait...but, won't watch...life's too short to waste my most precious commodity... time...

Sparky   ... on greedy, do nothing Iraqis...

Sparky   ...11 11 I'll b60...

Sparky   ...but... Happy Halloween...!!!!

Sparky   ...time for me, to go trick or treating...night owl...

chattels   Iraqi PM Abdel-Mahdi in address to the nation: I agree to early elections under a new election law. I agree to resign with the condition that political blocs nominate an acceptable replacement for me. http://mobp.as/c4I1p

chattels   A lot of if, but and maybe in the foregoing.

chattels   EXCLUSIVE: Iran intervenes to prevent ousting of Iraqi prime minister, sources tell @Reuters https://reut.rs/36fgBqS

chattels   Despite the maneuvering behind closed doors, Abdul Mahdi’s fate remains unclear. He took office a year ago as a compromise candidate between Amiri and Sadr but faces a wave of protests that has swelled in recent days.

chattels   BREAKING - ISLAMIC STATE (Isis) NAMES ABI IBRAHIM AL-HASHEMI AL-QURASHI AS ITS NEW LEADER AFTER BAGHDADI DEATH - REUTERS

chattels   ABI IBRAHIM AL-HASHEMI AL-QURASHI is a mouthful of name.

chattels   Also remember that if Abd al-Mahdi were to simply leave the office, the constitution provides that the president becomes PM. As much as people like Dr. Barham, he may be many people's favorite Kurd, but I still doubt they will let him actually become PM.

And the way to avoid this would be for parliament to refuse any resignation letter from AAM until an agreement is reached on a (Shia Arab) replacement. This opens up the possibility of a comatose govt for a period if AAM wants to resign but they won't let him. https://twitter.com/UticaRisk/status/1189999151884296192

chattels   " a comatose govt "

chattels   Dysfunctional, failed or comatose, take your pick.

chattels   This is Iraqi President Barham Salih's speech to the nation a few hours ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKkKFFPCVRE

chattels   Perhaps the most important point is his support for early elections. But dissolution of parliament requires a true absolute majority of the body. Thus 165 MPs have to agree to put their cushy jobs at risk.

chattels   As expected Salih will propose a new election law (he gave an address on this in mid-Oct). If it is the kind of law that would open up the political system, it will be against the interests of MPs to pass it, especially if they will then be asked to vote for new elections

chattels   The point about Abd al-Mahdi being prepared to resign is not new. In fact Salih himself refers to the fact that Abd al-Mahdi's letter saying this had become public. It would require agreement on a new PM, or a vote for new elections.

chattels   https://twitter.com/UticaRisk  

chattels   Iraq’s Democracy Under a Cloud   KIRK H. SOWELL

Rife with election fraud, Iraq’s political system has sparked widespread protests one year after the country’s previous national election.

October 30, 2019   https://carnegieendowment.org/sada/80237

chattels   " .............. for Iraqis taking to the streets with frustration toward the electoral system itself, the next big question for Iraqi democracy may not be who wins, but whether voters can be convinced it even matters."

chattels   I commented a couple of days ago that the failure of a sitting government and creating the replacement government was unplowed ground for this young Iraqi democracy. If people do not believe that their vote matters then what democracy is there ?

chattels   And that's the way that it is from the news that i read out of Iraq on Thursday, October 31, 2019. Happy All Hallows Eve.

chattels   Iraq president vows early polls as protesters demand more

3 hours ago https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/01112019

Chattels   In his first televised address in weeks, President Barham Salih said the country’s embattled Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi was ready to step down, but there was so far no one to take his place.

“The prime minister expressed his willingness to submit his resignation, asking the political parties to reach an agreement on an acceptable alternative,” said Salih.

He pledged to hold early elections as soon as a new voting law and oversight commission was agreed, but his speech did not appear to impress demonstrators.

chattels   Salih has held closed-door talks with top figures over Abdul-Mahdi’s ouster and parliament has called on the premier to come in for questioning.

Abdul-Mahdi has so far resisted, saying he would only appear if the session was aired on television.

Lawmakers met Thursday for a fourth consecutive day and agreed to broadcast any session live, with Sayirun MPs chanting: “Adil must come! Adil must come!”

chattels   The United Nations’ top representative in Iraq, Jeanine Hennis-Plasschaert, called for a national dialogue to draw a roadmap out of the crisis.

“Today Iraq stands at a crossroads. Progress through dialogue, or divisive inaction,” she said.

Chattels   The rallies are unique in Iraq’s recent history for their fury at the entire leadership, even normally revered clerics.

“We don’t want them, so let them leave. We also don’t want the clerics – they have no business in politics,” said Hoda, a 59-year-old in a headscarf and sunglasses protesting in Baghdad.

Chattels   Why the Kurds remain genuine friends of the West

4 hours ago https://www.rudaw.net/english/opinion/01112019

Kountryway   only have one question...what of Maliki?

Doug_W   WHO knows

Doug_W   why is he still alive is my Q

Baxter   That is quite a question..

spankie   as long as Maliki is alive means Irans still got control- hang him and show the peeps things are changing

 

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Dave   The MPs are evading arrest warrant demands.......promising rain drops on roses and whiskers on kittens instead......

mikexx   Iraq protests: PM Adel Abdul Mahdi 'will resign if replacement is found

Dave   mikexx Kool .....not really what protesters want.......

mikexx   and the beat goes on

Dave   shall see......

Dave   Provisional Govt.... then New Elections......then how many yrs to seat the GOVT?

Clay   they need Sadaam back

Clay   thats all they know is living under dictatorship

Dave   better with him...than what they have now

Clay   same with Libya and Syria

Clay   now its Sunni (ISIS) against *

Clay   Dave agree

Dave   Clay Trump not an Autocrat?

Wheresmyrv?   Clay agreed

Clay   plus would have kept Iran in check

IQD CALLS Chat Thursday Evening 10-31-19

Dave   The MPs are evading arrest warrant demands.......promising rain drops on roses and whiskers on kittens instead......

mikexx   Iraq protests: PM Adel Abdul Mahdi 'will resign if replacement is found https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50248954

Dave   mikexx Kool .....not really what protesters want.......

mikexx   and the beat goes on

Dave   shall see......

Dave   Provisional Govt.... then New Elections......then how many yrs to seat the GOVT?

Clay   they need Sadaam back

Clay   thats all they know is living under dictatorship

Dave   better with him...than what they have now

Clay   same with Libya and Syria

Clay   now its Sunni (ISIS) against *

Clay   Dave agree

Dave   Clay Trump not an Autocrat?

Wheresmyrv?   Clay agreed

Clay   plus would have kept Iran in check

Dave   Clay have they given us anything yet to be enthusiastic?

Clay   Dave nope

Clay   same O  over and over

Dave   Maliki in handcuffs then i will start to get excited

 Francis Albert   I would encourage not so much pessimism. The CBI is all that matters here. The government over there, just like any government will always be screwed up.

Remember, the idea of a "Fully seated government" was always just guru stuff to hand another carrot out for their followers. IMO, this never was a problem. It just wasn't time for OH, so many reasons. You all are fine.

Dave   thought they voted days ago on lifting Immunity

Wheresmyrv?   Francis Albert I hope you are right

Francis Albert   I know I'm right

Dave   Francis Albert Thats why that Kuwaiti Donor Conference went sideways?

Francis Albert   Above my pay grade Dave. Not sure about that

Clay   Francis Albert I think youn are right

Dave   Francis Albert Sideways due to Rampant corruption

Clay   no worse than here Dave

Francis Albert   Well, think about the corruption in USG and multiply it by 10 for Mid East. These people have been battered around for so long..they get their hands on money and can't help themselves...and the people are treated terribly. It's just a shame what the West has done to that place the last 75 years.

Clay   disrupting a good thing

Dave   1 trillion usd.....since Maliki.......??????

Clay   Shoulda never got involved

Francis Albert   Long ago there was just Arabia. So, this clan called Saudi wants the place for its own, goes in conquers it and re names it Saudi Arabia. This energy in in their DNA

Dave   Clay should check out the World corruption list...USA is not close to the rest

Francis Albert   Because they and their friends make the list up :)

Dave   yes Bald politicians claiming 100 haircuts.......rampant corruption here

Francis Albert   Keep in mind, Dollar Inc. runs the show World Wide right now. Central Banks, U.S. IMF, World Bank, BIS, U.N. The EU...

Francis Albert   Dave, how about Rumsfeld announcing Defense Dept can't account for, I think it was, 7 Trillion Dollars the day before 911. Check it out if interested.

Clay   Dave I know

Clay   but still very corrupt

Clay   politicians

Clay   they all get rich in office

Dave   Clay no even close on the order of magnitude

Clay   I understand

Clay   but our morons still send them $ knowing that

Clay   the arabs

Clay   and we get nothing for it

Clay   they still hate us

Dave   Clay not yet?

Dave   Clay bombed them into obscurity looking for WMD

Dave   and Chaney owned Haliburton......Hmmmm

Clay   yes we did

Clay   yes he did

Dave   and then slapped with Sanctions,,,,,,

Zig   "Francis Albert" "I know I'm right".............Now you sound like Kap..... ;eye roll;

Baxter   10-31-2019 **** Dinar Guru Newsflash **** According to CNN and other news outlets Iraqi Prime Minister Mahdi has agreed to resign from his position. He will step down next week after parliament passes needed election laws and a new government is in place. Stay tuned as the gurus chime in to discuss the impact this news will have on the dinar...

Baxter   10-31-2019 Newshound Guru Kaperoni With confidence in PM Mahdi failing, talk of him resigning is everywhere. We will just have to wait and see if it's true or not.

Baxter   QUOTE ABOVE: A NEW GOVERNMENT IS IN PLACE NEXT WEEK... :laugh :laugh :laugh

Baxter   The Government that was elected a year and a half ago... is STILL NOT IN PLACE... SO FUNNY

Zig   I really am enjoying being in this investment..... 'happy-dance

Baxter   ME TOO..... I LOVE IT....

Zig   Thanks to the person who told me about it.....LOL

Baxter   Yep... I thank him every day.... LOL

larrykn   Baxter the RV must be close now lol :laugh

Baxter   I can see it coming over the horizon...

larrykn   the talk will be all over dinar world tomorrow.

Baxte   rI can see it coming over the horizon...

larrykn   the talk will be all over dinar world tomorrow.

Baxter   oh.. Im sure... especially on a Friday

Baxter   Friday is PUMP DAY

larrykn   yes the news will be built up big time

Baxter   yep

Baxter   count on it

larrykn   I'll take the day off just to listen to it lol

Baxter   oh goody...

Baxter   Be back later maybe

Zig   I don't think there has ever been anything like this as far as an investment being discussed online....the number of chats and forums....calls.....videos, etc.....maybe I am wrong.....can anyone think of anything similar??.....and the length of time spent on it as well.......

biff   Party on Zig

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Portmagaland   I want to pick your brains

Portmagaland   What do you guys make of Isreal closing down all their embassies?

Portmagaland   That article says it's because they are going to war. I've heard another theory about a lot of our bad actors have duel citizenship and might make a run to an Israeli embassy trying to escape American justice?

Portmagaland   No matter what, it's interesting, no?

Portmagaland   Supposedly they closed them after Steve Mchuin spoke the the Isralie Finance minister. This story broke yesterday but seems to be gaining steam

Chattels   Jerusalem (CNN)Israel's diplomatic missions around the world closed on Wednesday as Foreign Ministry workers went on strike over a dispute about paying taxes on overseas stipends.

chattels   Iraq prime minister's fate in limbo as protests swell  By Ahmed Aboulenein   Reuters Oct 30, 2019

chattels   Despite promising reforms and ordering a broad reshuffle of the cabinet, Abdul Mahdi has done little to address the demonstrators’ complaints. Parliament passed measures on Monday including reduced salaries for officials, but protesters derided this as too little too late.

chattels   " ................. too little too late."

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Portmagaland   I want to pick your brains

Portmagaland   What do you guys make of Isreal closing down all their embassies?

Portmagaland   http://m.beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2019/10/world-war-israel-closing-all-of-its-embassies-worldwide-effective-immediately-wwiii-3703660.html

Portmagaland   That article says it's because they are going to war. I've heard another theory about a lot of our bad actors have duel citizenship and might make a run to an Israeli embassy trying to escape American justice?

Portmagaland   No matter what, it's interesting, no?

Portmagaland   Supposedly they closed them after Steve Mchuin spoke the the Isralie Finance minister. This story broke yesterday but seems to be gaining steam

Chattels   Jerusalem (CNN)Israel's diplomatic missions around the world closed on Wednesday as Foreign Ministry workers went on strike over a dispute about paying taxes on overseas stipends. https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/30/middleeast/israel-embassies-closed-intl/index.html

chattels   Iraq prime minister's fate in limbo as protests swell  By Ahmed Aboulenein   Reuters Oct 30, 2019

https://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/world/iraq-prime-minister-s-fate-in-limbo-as-protests-swell/article_4f678a0e-37c2-5ee1-bcc5-4f53cf57479f.html

chattels   Despite promising reforms and ordering a broad reshuffle of the cabinet, Abdul Mahdi has done little to address the demonstrators’ complaints. Parliament passed measures on Monday including reduced salaries for officials, but protesters derided this as too little too late.

chattels   " ................. too little too late."

chattels   Protesters from across Iraq’s sectarian and ethnic divides thronged the center of the capital Baghdad in a show of fury at the political class. While Abdul Mahdi’s fate was not yet clear, demonstrators said removing him would not be enough.

chattels   By the way, remember the question about Alak and his replcaement as Governor of the Central Bank of Iraq ? See Document: Including the Governor of the Central Bank .. Abdul Mahdi sends the names of candidates for private positions to parliament 7/06/2019

https://www.mawazin.net/Details.aspx?jimare=52695

 chattels   Baghdad Mawazine News    " Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi, the names of candidates for positions of special grades, including the Governor of the Central Bank to the House of Representatives after the approval of the Council of Ministers. .............. nominated Ali Abdul Amir Allawi for the post of Governor of the Central Bank, ......."

chattels   Who is Ali Abdul-Amir Allawi ? See http://www.globalinfluence.world/en/leader/ali-abdul-amir-allawi/

chattels   And http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6446189.stm

chattels   Ali is son of Ahmad Chalabi's sister, making him Chalabi's nephew. https://www.speakerbookingagency.com/talent/ali-abdul-amir-allawi

chattels   Fixing Iraq's Economy

What are Iraq's Trade Minister Ali Abdul-Amir Allawi's views on his country's economic future?

By The Globalist, October 22, 2003 https://www.theglobalist.com/fixing-iraqs-economy/

chattels   Intel: What’s fueling Iraqi anger at the government   Ali Mamouri October 31, 2019

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/intel-iraq-protests-anger-government.html#ixzz63uS13evR

chattels   If Abdul Mahdi does step down, the president would take over as prime minister and the government would give way to a caretaker government. It’s also possible that parliament could remove Abdul Mahdi if one-fifth of members call for a vote of no confidence and then the vote is approved by a majority.

In either case, in the prime minister's absence the president would then charge the nominee of the largest parliamentary bloc with forming a new government.

 If the parliament failed to form a new government, it can dissolve itself with majority vote and the current government would turn to a caretaker government and it would have to organize new elections in 60 days. Parliament could also withdraw confidence from the prime minister based on a request from the president.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/intel-iraq-protests-anger-government.html#ixzz63uShrZPZ

chattels   Abdul Mahdi resigning New govt put together by Sadr & Amiri would not satisfy protests as elites would continue to hold power Protesters called for new election law new elections & booting ruling parties http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/10/massacre-of-karbala-protesters-as-talk.html

Doug_W   Silver:$18.18

Baxter Chattels   .. Good Morning... did you find the article Kap was referring to about the CBI in Feb may go to Article 8

larrykn   Good Morning everyone

larrykn   Iraq prime minister's fate in limbo as crowds of demonstrators swell https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44536/Iraq-prime-minister-s-fate-in-limbo-as-crowds-of-demonstrators-swell

larrykn   Rocket seen heading towards Baghdad's green zone, blast heard https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44540/Rocket-seen-heading-towards-Baghdad-s-green-zone-blast-heard

larrykn   World Bank: Iraq's economy slowly recovers

Economy News - Baghdad:  Iraq's economy is slowly recovering in 2019, the World Bank announced.

"In the first half of 2019, GDP grew by 4.8% compared to the previous year, leading to a reverse shift in the contraction of the economy over the past two years," the World Bank said in a report on Iraq, seen by Economy News.

"This growth is the result of an increase in crude oil production (up to 6.3% so far) and a 5.6% recovery in non-oil economic activity in the first half of 2019 compared to last year," he said.

"The recent recovery is due to improved rainfall levels, the production of record agricultural crops, an improvement in electricity production and an expansionary fiscal policy associated with increased wage and public consumption bills," he said.

"Such positive developments are expected to raise real GDP growth to an estimated 4.6% by the end of the year," he said.

"The Iraqi economy outperforms its counterparts in the region this year, but the dynamics of its population require much higher growth to maintain the current level of prosperity," he said. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18121

Crazycrypto   QD/USD - Iraqi Dinar US Dollar

Real-time FX   0.00840 +0.00001 +0.08%

Prev. Close: 0.00840

Bid/Ask: 0.00840 / 0.00841

Day's Range: 0.00840 - 0.00840

18:00:03 - Real-time Data

Type: Currency

Group: Minor

Base: Iraqi Dinar

Second: US Dollar

Crazycrypto   seems the iraqi dinar is no longer listed as an exotic currency

Crazycrypto   its listed as minor

Crazycrypto   Minor" Currency Pairs - When a currency pair doesn’t include the US dollar, it’s called a "minor currency pair" or a "cross-currency pair". Here are a few minor currency pairs:

Crazycrypto   EUR/GBP — Euro/British pound

EUR/AUD — Euro/Australian dollar

GBP/JPY — British pound/Japanese yen

CHF/JPY — Swiss franc/Japanese yen

NZD/JPY — New Zealand dollar/Japanese yen

GBP/CAD — British pound/Canadian dolla

Crazycrypto   sounds as if Iraq may be in the minor league now next step is the BIG leagues baby

Crazycrypto   we can only hope

Baxterwhat is he talking about Doug?

Doug_W   Baxter he is saying it APPEARS that the IQD is no longer an exotic currency but has been UPgraded to a "minor" one

Baxter   Yes... but what does that mean.... Dimes Maybe

Doug_W   IDK exactly what it means BUT it can't be bad if it has been upgraded

Doug_W   I have long read that it has be no longer be an exotic currency to be international~~

Loren   I got a email last nite from ktfa saying that the Dinar revalued in Iraq. Has anybody else heard that?

Baxter   NOPE...

Baxter   I dont get his emails though

Baxter   its not on the CBI.... so ... it hasnt happened

Loren   Can't argue with that source.

Loren   In your opinion. Where are we at right now?

Baxter   Not a clue

Baxter   its all speculation... at best

Baxter   14 years in this for me....and I havent seen my first dime

Loren   Unfortunately it always has been. I bought mine in Iraq 14 years ago, even then I knew it was like buying lottery tickets. I bought in just in case it did happen, although my reinforcement was Kuwait.

Baxter   but Kuwait... never Rv'd... all they did was re instate it to its value before Sadaam..

Baxter   Im sure there was some profit taking in the beginning... but most of it is Guru Nonsense

Baxter   Loren.... you have to understand something... when Kuwaitt brought their value back... they didnt put out over 40 TRILLION dinar.... that is the BIG difference here

Baxter   that is why their valued stayed the same..

Baxter   not the case for IRAQ

Doug_W   Silver:$18.130 tht is plus.22

Loren   Ya but, there was money made on the KD. I hope that you are not calling me a Sadaam hero? I went ovewr there to fight against that man.

Baxter   Im sure there was money made... most likely on the Black Market

Loren  Thank You!

Baxter   but the value... never changed..never increased in value..

Chattels   Baxter My sense was that Kap was speculating about an article that referenced " the CBI making a courageous decision to control the movement of funds in February 2020." He conjectures about whether the meaning of such is that the ( CBI intends to accep IMF Article VIII, IMO.

Doug_W   10-4

Baxter   CHattels... did you see the article he is referring to?

Loren   I am a Vet, but I served in the Navy 1977 to 1983. I went over as a contractor 2003 to 2013, working for KBR.

chattels   Baxter I have not seen the article that he may be referring to.

31 Oct 19, 09:15 AM Baxter   ok.. thx

Chattels   Baghdad / Nina / Speaker of the House of Representatives Mohammed Halbousi: "We sent a formal request to the Office of Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi on hosting him, and we await the answer. https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=795699

chattels   Baghdad / Nina / Speaker of the House of Representatives Mohammed Halbousi lifted the meeting of the Council until the presence of Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi. https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=795709

chattels   Iraqi National News Agency ( NINA ): "To achieve the proposed reforms of the federal government in light of the deficit of the federal budget for the next fiscal year, we must pressure OPEC to the possibility of increasing Iraq's export quota to cover the budget deficit, and the possibility of offering to repay Iraq's external debt It is worth more than 110 billion dollars through investment or oil and gas. "

He called for: "the sale of part of public and private property to finance the budget deficit and freeze the funds of Iraqis at home and abroad to ensure that they are not contaminated with corrupt funds, and the process of verification through an independent committee of experts and local competencies and through the use of international consultants and the process of recovering these funds from Sources of deficit coverage in the federal budget

https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=795631

chattels   BAGHDAD / NINA / The Central Bank of Iraq sold more than / 163 / million dollars at auction selling foreign currency today.

The bank said in a statement: "The total amount sold today, amounted to 163 million and / 162 / thousand and / / 216 / dollars, with the participation of / 30 / banks and one company."

https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=795649

chattels   Economic specialist: injecting budget paragraphs with new allocations is an unsuccessful step without maximizing non-oil revenues

Thursday 31 October 10:31 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=795627

chattels   " .............. quantitative employment - is one of the problems that exhausted the public budget and this is indicated by the reports of the International Monetary Fund - which forced the reformulation of spending policy and rationalization in the public budget, which suffers from a series of near-chronic problems (deficit, salaries of employees and retirees, dependence on oil Operational budget, which still constitutes 78% of the general budget)."

chattels   " ............... salaries of employees and retirees, ............... which still constitutes 78% of the general budget."

chattels   "We need the use of unconventional economic thought that deals with a global approach in many important service, industrial and residential sectors to lift the burden on the public budget and the possibility of preparing the way to revive the Iraqi economy, which is hampered by obstacles of corruption, waste and failure."

chattels   " ................ obstacles of corruption, waste and failure."

chattels   Have a fine day all.

Zig   @Loren: If you or anyone else has interest, you can read about one of our chat member's experience with the Kuwaiti Dinar at https://www.iqdcalls.com/other.html Scroll down a bit...

Young_SC   Baxter Loren well like what Frank has stated before you can take his opinion and listen to what he is saying or you can take his opinion and throw it in the garbage

Young_SC   I'll tell you this that most of what Frank had stated in the past has actually come out in the news the week later and he also stated 6 months ago they will get rid of the current prime minister and we are seeing it for ourselves now

Young_SC   Jus saying

Doug_W   Silver:$18.230 +.32

Andrewhatidid   SO let me get this straight AL SADR Abadi Hamiri Etc......

(DEEP STATE) calling Adel Abdul Mahdi and the current govt A Iran puppet   A traitor but just came back from Iran   (Behind the scenes) Driving through the demonstrator crowd  And the Iraqi people say nothing about that  WOW SUPER NAÏVE   OR SUPER LOST

Because how a so call religious person Asking certain people to destroy their own country and Mahdi govt because he claim of corruption etc...But having secret meetings with certain people behind the scenes

Kinda sound like the deep state here in America  when it comes to trump (POTUS)..........

Anyways at the end of the day  They still lose !!!!  They still fail !!!!  No matter how hard they try   # IT'S GOD TIME BIH !!!!!!   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75h8MMeCnAw

Matt   Dow Jones Industrial Average  INDEXDJX: .DJI   26,978.76 −207.93 (0.76%) ouch down -207

Zig   Baxter : Do you think you will ever give up on this?........Me?.....Not sure......

Baxter   Nah.... something will happen someday....

Baxter   one way or the other

Baxter   im getting concerned about 2020 though

Baxter   we have to wait and see what the govt does now...

Baxter   these citizens aint messin around anymore

Baxter   Sadr means business... IMO

Zig   If there is a civil war we are screwed.....IMO

Baxter   oh yes

Baxter   hopefully the U S wont let that happen

 

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Chattels   High level Iraqi political source: PM Abdel-Mahdi says he will not resign.

Zig   Well I am sure that is "chattels"......one of a kind.....lol

chattels   Clock ticks down for Iraqi PM as protests rock the country   Ali Mamouri October 30, 2019

chattels   According to the Iraqi Constitution, the parliament is the only power that can vote on withdrawing confidence from the prime minister and his cabinet on request of the president or one-fifth of its members. If confidence is withdrawn by an absolute majority, the parliament's largest bloc will nominate a candidate to replace him and form a new government.

 Calling an early election is also not possible unless the parliament dissolves itself by an absolute majority vote, after which the government will have only 60 days to organize a new election.

chattels   " ................ it seems that Abdul Mahdi's resignation or dismissal is only a matter of time. But after his departure, a difficult road will remain, with strong conflicts between pro-Iran forces and politicians in Iraq and the protesters. Iran will not let Iraq go easily.

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Chattels   High level Iraqi political source: PM Abdel-Mahdi says he will not resign. http://wataniq.com/news?ID=45794

Zig   Well I am sure that is "chattels"......one of a kind.....lol

chattels   Clock ticks down for Iraqi PM as protests rock the country   Ali Mamouri October 30, 2019

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-iran-abdul-mahdi-muqtada-sadr-hadi-amiri.html#ixzz63sdYct9p

chattels   According to the Iraqi Constitution, the parliament is the only power that can vote on withdrawing confidence from the prime minister and his cabinet on request of the president or one-fifth of its members. If confidence is withdrawn by an absolute majority, the parliament's largest bloc will nominate a candidate to replace him and form a new government.

 Calling an early election is also not possible unless the parliament dissolves itself by an absolute majority vote, after which the government will have only 60 days to organize a new election.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-iran-abdul-mahdi-muqtada-sadr-hadi-amiri.html#ixzz63sdyINj7

chattels   " ................ it seems that Abdul Mahdi's resignation or dismissal is only a matter of time. But after his departure, a difficult road will remain, with strong conflicts between pro-Iran forces and politicians in Iraq and the protesters. Iran will not let Iraq go easily.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-iran-abdul-mahdi-muqtada-sadr-hadi-amiri.html#ixzz63seUSgos

chattels   Sadr issues dire warning of internal conflict if Abdul-Mahdi not ousted https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/301020191

chattels   RBIL, Kurdistan Region- ERBIL, Kurdistan Region- Muqtada al-Sadr’s attempt to form a coalition to quickly oust current Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi appears to have hit a roadblock.

The Shiite cleric has been left disappointed after Hadi al-Amiri’s bloc expressed opposition to early elections, preferring to leave the matter in parliament’s hands amid ongoing and widespread protests.

"I will no longer join alliances with you," Sadr said, in a reply to al-Amiri, head of the rival parliamentary bloc, after trying to form an alliance in opposition to Abdul-Mahdi.

chattels   With his overture to Amiri rebuffed, Sadr warned that Iraq will become the next Syria or Yemen if Prime

Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi doesn't resign.

chattels   Iran closed its border with Iraq on Wednesday in response to the protests.

Zig   I am certainly glad I found this investment.....Sigh.....

chattels   Abdul Mahdi's resignation without an agreed alternative will lead to chaos and civil war

Wednesday 30 October 12:18 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=795523

chattels   BAGHDAD ( NINA ) - The head of the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) bloc, Fian Sabri, warned of the resignation of Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi without an agreed alternative, stressing that it would "lead to chaos and civil war."

chattels   The central bank sells more than $ 221 million at a currency auction Wednesday 30 October 12:22 2019 | https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=795526

Baxter   What would I ever do without this Dinar... its been a LIFE SAVER.... ;$$$

Portmagaland   chattels The $221 million in dinar x 5 days = 1 billion 105 million × 4.3 weeks = 4 billion 750 million 500 thousand x 12 months = 57 billion 18 million annually, right?

Baxter   they dont have currency auctions every day... first of all...

Baxter   I can remember auctions that didnt hit 20 million..

Baxter   so can Chattels I suppose

Sparky   . Baxter ..Bax u 2 funny...

Sparky   ...but, correct...

Sparky   Baxter ... mattress man wins 19 million $ if Houston wins tonight...Carma...

Sparky...allowed the flooded out homeless to sleep on his mattresses at his store... I bet he is a richer man tomorrow...or, later tonight...

Sparky   Baxter ...2020 Iraq,... seems like that's out the window...2021 may be a great year for this endeavor...

Baxter   well.. I got news for you... PTR says .. its at any moment...

Baxter   listening to their call... right now...

Sparky   Baxter ...yeah... I am still in Reno waiting,...Dave was supposed to send me some mustard...but, still waiting... probably tomorrow rv at $85 per dinar...

Baxter   Im gone at a dime....

Sparky   Baxter ...lol...me too bro...at least some...

Baxter   PTR swears this has nothing to do with Iraq...

Sparky   Baxter ...that does not surprise me...it's only about Iraq, but, has nothing to do with them...lol...how silly...

Baxter   they say this is gonna be a Global Currency Reset...and Iraq is just one of many countries that are going to revalue their currencies..

Baxter   and they have been saying this for years...

Sparky   Baxter ...since I got in, they said every f'n weekend...2011...

Baxter   oh.. i know

Baxter   2006 for me...

Sparky   Baxter ...that's lots of weekends...lol...

Baxter   you better believe it...

Baxter   supposedly on Hannity tonight.. on Fox channel..at 9..EDT.... he is gonna announce the whistleblowers name..

Sparky   Baxter ... I say to them..." You are my friend '...and, have never gotten bitten...

Baxter   I think I will listen...

Sparky   ...ME best figure that out... especially Saudi...imo...

Sparky   ...This and Euphrates need de salivation solutions...

Sparky   * Tigrus

Sparky   * salt removal...not sure of word...

Sparky   ...desalization ?

Matt   Dow Jones Industrial Average INDEXDJX: .DJI 27,186.69 +115.27 (0.43%) ^

Sparky   Matt ... economy still in boom mode...

Sparky   ...feds just dropped interest rates a quarter point..

Dave   Sparky no mustard yet.....air dropped a pallet......thinking you may be qued up for awhile

Matt   Sparky Ya my 401K is up nice in comp to Obumer Insane.

Sparky   Dave ... thanks bro,...think u r right...may be here for a while...

Dave   news scant ....and seems to all over the place.....so no news is good news?

Sparky   Dave ...Trump playing cards...

Dave   should I see Maliki in handcuffs......

Dave   Sparky Trump aint CBI

Sparky   Dave ...no,...but UN and IMF...

Sparky   ...and BIS...

Dave   Sparky Sanctions still seem to be on......Iraq just needs to sign up........Allaq may feel the time aint right

Sparky   Dave ...king dollar...

Dave   good with a dime....

Sparky   Dave ... probably taking orders from Shan's...

Dave   signup to go global....art8

Sparky   *Shabbs

Sparky   Dave ... straight out of the playbook...

Sparky   Dave ... security, stability, and fully seated government...

Dave   Sparky or any central bank governors

Dave   those guys generally not dumb

Dave   Sparky hcl art 140

Dave   postphone or delay ......their MO....or hopefully had been

Sparky   Dave ...yup...not sure if those are necessary...as is art 8...

Dave   who gets the money from the disputed territories......

Sparky   Dave ... corruption holds us back...

Dave   Sparky that is a BIGGY

Dave   lifting immunity......

Sparky   Dave ...at camel speed...

Dave   new elections......??????

Dave   postpone or delay keeps them out of jail....

Sparky   Dave ...smoke...and illogical...till next election cycle...

Dave   COUP!!!!!!!

Sparky   Dave ... interesting thought...

Dave   faster that way

Sparky   Dave ... becoming More and more feasible option...

Dave   they are after the crooks now.......

Sparky   Dave ..young Iraqis need to realize what's up...

Dave   MOUs wont cut it......arrest warrants is what they are after now

Dave   Sparky they have learned.....

Sparky   Dave ... shoot to thrill...like Isis...

Sparky   Dave ... time for you to get on the same page as their citizens...

Sparky   *goi

spankie   With Maliki running free and acting like he is a good guy shows what a joke Iraq gov is

Dave   coup....

Dave   gotta run ...later

Sparky   spankie ...lots of pols in Malikis pocket...

Sparky   spankie ... maybe even Barzani...

Sparky   spankie ...to postpone 104 and HCl... while ripping off the peeps...delay...and extort...

Sparky   ... somethings up, ...we should have been rich in '14...

chattels   Lieutenant General Abdel-Wahab Saa’idi, formerly of Iraqi CTService, could be the people's / protestors choice.

chattels   Wednesday, October 30, 2019

Massacre Of Karbala Protesters As Talk Begins Of PM Abdul Mahdi Resigning

http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/10/massacre-of-karbala-protesters-as-talk.html

chattels   President Barham Salah reportedly called an emergency meeting of the ruling parties in Baghdad to discuss an alternative to Abdul Mahdi.

As a sign that this might actually take place, a member of the Kurdistan Democratic Party told the media that the Kurdish parties would accept a new government as long as their rights were maintained. There was also a report that the prime minister might resign by Wednesday.

Will this quiet the crowds? Unlikely since they want not only the government to resign, but a new election law and then a vote to boot out the current politicians. Having a new administration put together by the current elite will likely be more of the same unless they move on these other issues.

Sparky   ...booom...

Sparky   chattels ...Saeed...like it..m

Sparky   chattels ... thank you again, for bringing real news... I appreciate you...

Sparky   chattels ...and thanks for your educated opinion... I appreciate you..

Portmagaland   Good evening all....

Portmagaland   Good evening all....     I want to pick your brains

Portmagaland   http://m.beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2019/10/world-war-israel-closing-all-of-its-embassies-worldwide-effective-immediately-wwiii-3703660.html

Portmagaland   What do you guys make of Isreal closing down all their embassies?

Portmagaland   That article says it's because they are going to war. I've heard another theory about a lot of our bad actors have duel citizenship and might make a run to an Israeli embassy trying to escape American justice?

Portmagaland   No matter what, it's interesting, no?

Portmagaland   Supposedly they closed them after Steve Mchuin spoke the the Isralie Finance minister. This story broke yesterday but seems to be gaining steam

 

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chattels   The Democratic House seems to have turned upon one of our traditional formal NATO allies in favor of the Kurds who we have thrown under the bus more than once in prior administrations.

chattels   US House serves blow to Turkey with votes on sanctions, Armenian genocide

chattels   Sadr's Sairoon continued sit-in in parliament building while he called for early elections to replace PM Abdul Mahdi on Oct 29

chattels   Iraq’s protests were ebbing and flowing. On October 28, they received a huge boost when thousands of students and professionals joined. That was offset by the latest acts of violence by the government forces.

chattels   Oct 28 parliament said it would create committee to amend constitution in 4 mo Will never happen parties dont do anything major unless all benefit Plus govt has no legitimacy and protesters want MPs out …

Chattels   So here are my comments on the current state of the protest crisis in #Iraq. Plenty of others are commenting on this so I'm going to focus on what I think are the key points & hopefully not be too repetitive. Five points:

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chattels   The Democratic House seems to have turned upon one of our traditional formal NATO allies in favor of the Kurds who we have thrown under the bus more than once in prior administrations.

chattels   https://www.rudaw.net/english/world/30102019

chattels   US House serves blow to Turkey with votes on sanctions, Armenian genocide

chattels   Sadr's Sairoon continued sit-in in parliament building while he called for early elections to replace PM Abdul Mahdi on Oct 29

http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/10/iraq-protests-get-huge-boost-as.html

chattels   Iraq’s protests were ebbing and flowing. On October 28, they received a huge boost when thousands of students and professionals joined. That was offset by the latest acts of violence by the government forces.

chattels   Oct 28 parliament said it would create committee to amend constitution in 4 mo Will never happen parties dont do anything major unless all benefit Plus govt has no legitimacy and protesters want MPs out http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/10/iraq-protests-get-huge-boost-as.html   …

Chattels   So here are my comments on the current state of the protest crisis in #Iraq. Plenty of others are commenting on this so I'm going to focus on what I think are the key points & hopefully not be too repetitive. Five points:

11:45 AM - 29 Oct 2019 https://twitter.com/UticaRisk/status/1189252049516580864

chattels   1) Given the killings in Karbala last night, tho disputes remain over # killed, the government's legitimacy is totally shot. Everyone knew the official investigation into the early Oct killings were a whitewash for the political class, but they didn't even learn a lesson from it.

chattels   2) This Abd al-Mahdi's speech just be the new wave last Thursday evening. It is a 33-minute speech filled with technocratic jargon that would have better fitted a presentation at an iqsquared debate. It is like he is stuck in op-ed mode.

chattels   3) Speaking of the Hashd: Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis knows who the enemy is - they are the Shia protesters now taking to the streets. Here is Muhandis talking about the "fitna," the "conspiracy," & he even compares them to Daesh.

chattels   4) You know the circus has gone full circle when Muqtada al-Sadr shows up at the protest site, as he did in Najaf today (having returned from Iran to Iraq).

Doug_W   PUPPET

chattels   5) This brings me to my final point, regarding the difficulties of replacing AAM when he knows full well the 165 votes for a replacement aren't there & the last thing many MPs want is another PM chosen by Amiri & Sadr.

chattels   The foregoing appears to be the tactical reason that Mahdi is not resigning. Political forces cannot effectuate a replacement under constitutional process and Mahdi is not going to resign and deliver the country into anarchy and chaos.

chattels   So, we will likely plod along in political stalemate unless there is indeed a revolution.

chattels   My concern is for a military coup.

chattels   Time for golf. Have a fine day all.

Baxter   Im afraid our Dimes are in serious doubt

Doug_W   for NOW yes

Baxter   maybe... forever..

Doug_W   hope not~~

Baxter   Im thinkin the whole govt maybe just collapse over there

Doug_W   its happening now and they are trying to "save" it

Doug_W   thanks again Iran

Portmagaland   Clay Did you see the video of the U.N. taking over the Salt Palace in Salt Lake City Utah, telling Americans they cant shoot video inside a UN compound?

Portmagaland   Two days ago?

Baxter   Portmagaland I saw that

Clay    Portmagaland let them go thats what I say

JamesP   Not controlling my guns & ammo

Portmagaland   https://www.rt.com/usa/370698-calexit-california-embassy-moscow/

Clay   JamesP nor mine T

Portmagaland   Clay They aren't going to stop with California. They want us all.

Doug_W   k

Portmagaland   I've heard the UN troops are here specifically to handle our family in the South because they know how our brothers and sisters roll down there, Team America, rock on!

Doug_W   JamesP got ya

Clay   Portmagaland but they will be stopped

Portmagaland  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0i66gBS3Pbo   

UN COMPOUND IN UTAH - Takes over Salt Palace - UN Declares Sovereignty over US soil.   Oct 30, 2019

JamesP   Portmagaland looks like foreign invaders to me. They have no power here.

Portmagaland   JamesP They were going to take over Chicago earlier this year because local politicians made a plea to the UN.

Clay   JamesP let them come to the Carolinas

JamesP   Portmagaland they can have Chicago

Clay Portmagaland LOL maybe we should give them Chicago.....Good luck with that

Clay   JamesP lol

Portmagaland   https://abc7chicago.com/politics/boykin-asks-un-for-help-fighting-chicago-violence/2780474/

Portmagaland   Didnt ask the Governor for the National Guard or President for the 82nd, went straight to the U.N.

Portmagaland   Clay    Transforming our world: the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Developmenthttps://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/post2015/transformingourworld

Clay   Portmagaland Big Brother

Portmagaland   Straight from the U.N. Agenda 2030. That little commi girl going around telling us about global warming is a spokesperson for UN 2030. They'll take our guns here us up like cattle and make us live in studio apartments in megacities

Portmagaland   Herd us up

JohnW   blue helmets make easy targets

Clay   Portmagaland dont believe we would allow that

Dave   CommI girl?

Clay   telling you militias would form very quickly

Doug_W   Dave ???

Portmagaland   Clay Gretta girl from Sweden or something

Dave   Commi Girl?

Clay   Portmagaland let her stay there

Dave   not communist....

Portmagaland   Dave She's dictating my life to me, commi to me

Dave   Portmagaland She is dictating?

Clay   she would disapear very quickly

Portmagaland   https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/study-explosion-in-antarctic-sea-ice-levels-may-cause-another-ice-age-not-warming/   

Portmagaland   They can put that in their global warming conspiracy pipe and smoke it.

Portmagaland   It's all b.s. to control us through a global taxation because they laugh at us slaves

Portmagal   andDave Didnt say that Dave     And you know it

Portmagaland   You sound like a leftist implying I'm saying something I'm not

Dave   know what...?

Dave   more central

Portmagaland   I didnt say we weren't hurting our planet

JohnW   Portmagaland you don't have to pay global taxes, only Federal and state if your not lucky

Dave   Portmagaland Iam saying we should be taking better care of our home.....

Portmagaland   Japan just dropped more nuclear waste in the Pacific, got hit by a typhoon as well, which caused more nuclear waste to poison their rivers, recently

Portmagaland   Dave I agree

Portmagaland   Dave But I dont agree with a global tax based on a carbo footprint

Portmagaland   We get taxed enough

Dave   Portmagaland Try breathing in Beijing

Portmagaland   The first 3 to 4 months of our income goes to taxes

Portmagaland   Dave So taxing Americans is going to fix the air in Beijing, please explain?

Dave    Try living here but us commis get free health care and all that other free stuff most do not get in the States

Dave   yes big industries....the polluters get tax breaks

Portmagaland   Dave How is freedom of speech working out for the commis, oh it's called re-educational camps and if that doesnt work you're an organ donor. I'll pass.

Portmagaland   Have fun with that.

Portmagaland   I'll die doing my best to stop that.

Dave   Portmagaland sign your Drivers licence....your an organ donar

Portmagaland   Not here, you have to volunteer and they put donor sticker on your card.

 

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