IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 11-5-19

IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 11-5-19

Chattels   Risking Turkey’s ire, Iraqi Kurds back Syrian brethren  Amberin Zaman November 4, 2019

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/turkey-incursion-northern-syria-unite-kurds-iraq-krg.html#ixzz64M1GCxnp

chattels   Iraqi President in Erbil to talk Iraq constitution edits, protests with Kurdistan Region leaders

https://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/04112019

chattels   Quotas and a Parliamentary system are protective of minorities. I do not look for the Kurds, a minority, to give them up via constitutional amendment(s).

chattels   " ............ the constitution amendment committee will convene later this week, but it remains unclear what articles will be put forth in the meeting for amendment."

chattels   "There are a lot of talks of changing the system from parliamentary to presidential, or the reduction of the number of MPs by increasing the number of voters they represent from 100,000 to 250,000 voters," she added.

chattels   Kurdistan Region president Nechirvan Barzani commented on the amendment of the Iraqi constitution while attending the sixth congress of the Kurdistan Bar Association on October 31.

"The [2005] constitution designed for the new Iraq has been branded as advanced compared to the constitution of the majority of the countries in the region. However, not implementing its articles has created an atmosphere that means they are now talking about amending it. The main problem is not the constitution, but... that this constitution has been ignored."

"It must be clear to all that any amendments being made must reflect the reality of the differences and the uniqueness of the country's components and that the rights of all sides must be stipulated in it," Barzani went on to say.

"We will not impede any amendment aimed at improving the life and management of Iraq, but any amendment which will create inequality or harm democracy and federalism [will be impeded]," he warned.

chattels   "the constitution cannot be amended without the consent of Kurds, and the Iraqi parties very well understand that," Shakhawan Abdulla, a former Kurdish MP in the Iraqi Parliament said.

"Our only guarantee in the democratic, federal Iraq is this constitution. If we open this we will harm ourselves,” said Hoshyar Zebari, a member of the KDP leadership and Iraq's former foreign and finance minister.

chattels   Blocking police at checkpoints, Iraqis revel in people power https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/04112019

chattels   Iranian embassy set ablaze in Karbala https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/041120191

chattels   Iraq forces fire on Baghdad protesters after 4 killed in Karbala https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/041120192

chattels   In Baghdad, protesters reach Rashid Street & security forces disperse them. At least 5 killed.   LINK

chattels   Internet cut in Baghdad in effort to reduce protests. http://mobp.as/vIV2p

chattels   More evidence Iran's influence has worked and parties are backing away from having PM Abdul Mahdi step down https://almadapaper.net/view.php?cat=222476

chattels   The presidency of the parliament will meet tomorrow with the heads of political blocs to discuss the current situation

Monday 04 November 16:23 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?Key=796271

chattels   In Iraq, protesters replace Iranian flag with Iraqi flag on one of the buildings in the Iranian consulate in Karbala. Protesters denounce Iranian intervention in Iraq.

http://mobp.as/EwW2p

chattels   In Iraq, protesters demand dissolvement of Parliament & early elections.   http://mobp.as/sxW2p

Matt   Market Summary > Dow Jones Industrial Average  INDEXDJX: .DJI  27,462.11 +114.75 (0.42%)^  

chattels   Reidar Visser @reidarvisser   Those who support a more presidential form of government in #Iraq should perhaps remember peaceful democratic transitions from parliamentary to presidential rule - without coup, war etc - are relatively rare. Turkey under Erdogan comes to mind but he had wide parliamentary base https://twitter.com/reidarvisser

Portmagaland    Do any of you know who Field McConnell is?

Portmagaland   If so, apparently he was arrested for three felonies https://mobile.twitter.com/agentcointelpr1/status/1191583619824996352

Portmagaland   That link is Field's arrest report and mugshot posted on Twitter. Personally, I was hoping it's fake, but it looks real to me.

Portmagaland   Bummer, nothing in our world is true apparently we're all suckers getting scammed in one way, shape or form.

Portmagaland   Except death and taxes, they seem to be true.

Larrykn   Baghdad province works to build 100,000 housing units on the outskirts of the capital

Economy News – Baghdad   Baghdad province has revealed preparations for the implementation of the project of the five cities surrounding the capital, which includes 100,000 housing units to be distributed among the poor.

The governor of Baghdad, Mohammed Jaber al-Atta, told al-Sabah newspaper that the province, among its plans to provide adequate housing for The Citizens of Baghdad, is seeking to completethe project of the five residential cities surrounding the capital.

He said the project includes the creation of land in areas of the outskirts of Baghdad such as Nahrawan, Taji and Abu Ghraib, as well as Mahmoudiya and Husseinia to build 100,000 full-service housing units, he said, adding that the province is working to coordinate with the Ministry of Labor and Social Affairs to provide it with the names of the poor within the base.

The data it has in order to rely on it in the allocation of land and sort it for the construction of housing units on it within the project.

Al-Atta pointed out that the territories will be worked on after determining their legal and administrative status and agreeing with the relevant authorities to extend services to them from water networks and sewers and the construction of streets and electricity poles, as well as hospitals, schools and police stations in order to create an economic movement in these areas through Access to other services. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18145

larrykn   Industry announces 97% completion rate for The Industrial City in Dhi Qar

Economy News - Baghdad:   The Directorate General of Industrial Development, one of the formations of the Ministry of Industry and Minerals, has reached the final stages of the industrial city project in Dhi Qar province with an achievement rate of 97 percent.

"The pace of work is constantly increasing to complete the industrial city in Dhi Qar province with the follow-up and supervision of the directorate," said The Directorate's Director General Salam Saeed Ahmed, in a press release, stressing that "97 percent of the first and second phases of the project are achieved."

"It is hoped that the city will open its doors soon to support many Iraqi families, especially the people of Dhi Qar province, as it will provide more than 5,000 jobs for various disciplines with 25 workers in the industrial block out of a total of 200 industrial blocks covering all food and construction industries," he said. Chemical, electrical and engineering." http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18144

larrykn   Brent crude futures at $62.12 per barrel

Economy News - Baghdad:   Oil prices stabilized Tuesday as investors kept an eye on u.S. inventories data due later Tuesday, after two days of gains by crude due to positive economic data and hopes for a trade deal by Washington and Beijing. .

By 0739 GMT, brent crude futures had fallen by a cent to $62.12 a barrel after rising 0.7 percent in the previous session.

U.S. crude futures fell nine cents to $56.45 a barrel.

U.S. crude oil inventories are expected to rise last week, while oil inventories are likely to fall,according to a preliminary Reuters poll on Monday.

Oil has been supported by hopes for a trade agreement between the United States and China, the world's two largest oil consumers, which could boost demand.

Oil investors are closely following the initial public offering of Saudi State Oil Company Saudi Aramco, which is expected to be the largest listing in the world.

On the supply side, Russia cut its oil production to 11.23 million barrels per day last month from 11.25 million barrels per day in September, but again missed its pledge under an agreement to curb production.

The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), Russia and other producers, under the opec+group, have been implementing an agreement to cut oil production by 1.2 million barrels per day since January. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=18143

larrykn   Iraqi forces fire on Baghdad protesters, 4 killed https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44575/Iraqi-forces-fire-on-Baghdad-protesters-4-killed

larrykn   Internet access cut off in much of Iraq: NetBlocks https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44576/Internet-access-cut-off-in-much-of-Iraq-NetBlocks

chattels   An 18-member Iraqi parliamentary committee has been established to look into what amendments could be made, in line with the requirements put forward by the 2005 constitution.

The committee must present a report including recommendations for necessary amendments within four months. Recommended amendments will then be put to parliament for a vote and must be approved by an absolute majority.

Then it will be presented for a referendum to the people within a period that does not exceed two months from its approval date in the parliament.

“The referendum on the amended Articles shall be successful if approved by the majority of the voters, and if not rejected by two-thirds of the voters in three or more governorates,” according to the Constitution. https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/05112019

chattels   Article 142 of the constitution states that the Council of Representatives shall form a committee from its members "representing the principal components of the Iraqi society", which should present proposed amendments to the Council within four months.

The amendment package shall be voted on as a whole by the Council, and if it is passed, put to a referendum, which shall pass if approved by a majority of voters and is not rejected by a two-thirds majority in three or more governorates. The conditions for this referendum are the same as the conditions for the original ratification referendum.

The constitution can also be amended by a general procedure, laid down in Article 126, which requires a two-thirds approval in the Council of Ministers, followed by approval by a simple majority in a referendum.

chattels   There is no Council of Ministers. Another incompleted implementation under the Iraqi Constitution.

chattels   Some Kurdish figures have insisted the constitution itself is not flawed, but its incomplete implementation.

Chattels   Sorry, there is a Council of Ministers but many are never appointed or approved by the Parliament or have resigned.

chattels   There is no Federation Council and never has been.

chattels   As PMU gets involved in Iraqi protests, rumors about military coup spread

Ali Mamouri November 4, 2019   Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/11/iraq-protests-karbala-baghdad-iran.html#ixzz64PN69ts8

chattels   " .............. military coup ............."

chattels   Deputy speaker of Iraqi Council of representatives, Bashir Khalil: We are coming up with reforms as per the protester demands. But we can only act within our laws and constitution.

chattels   Michael Knights @Mikeknightsiraq

“We can only act within our laws and constitution” - that rarely stops Iraqi politicians from acting when they want to, and especially when it benefits them personally. Laws and the constitution only seem to be an obstacle to reform, never to corruption and repression. https://twitter.com/Mikeknightsiraq

chattels   Kirk H. Sowell @UticaRisk

If you are following this in the Iraqi media you will know that Iraqi politicos keep saying that Abd al-Mahdi can't resign now to avoid a "constitutional vacuum" (فراغ دستوري). But of course the constitution says the president (a Kurd) becomes PM, so there would be no void. https://twitter.com/UticaRisk

chattels   The Iraqi Constitution has been suspended in every meaningful sense. Of course there have been violations for years, especially in terms of illegal localized impositions of martial law or illegal arrests. But never post-2003 to anything like this scale.

chattels   Here’s a clue to why Iraq’s protests have not spread to Sunni areas. In Anbar, majority Sunni, authorities have arrested people who used Facebook to express solidarity for protesters - they didn’t even take to the street. https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/11/04/iraq-arrests-voicing-protest-solidarity

chattels   And that's the way that it is from the news that I read out of Iraq on this Tuesday, November 5, 2019.

chattels   Have a fine day all.

Crazycrypto   I personally think some in here see the glass as half empty instead of half full.. over the years it seems many have become bitter which is understandable and i think alot of people got into this investment as a get rich quick scheme of sorts but as time passes so does life and the average age of a dinarian i read was between 45-65 years old so that means most are retirees and time is ticking.

Baxter   Crazycrypto you got that right... 68 here...and my alarm may go off anyday....need my dimes

Crazycrypto   i get it man i hope it ends soon for us all

Zig Crazycrypto :    Yes, I believe the vast majority of Dinar holders still listen to and believe the so-called "Gurus" and like the hype and promises of an "Imminent" RV....so they prefer that over this...

Baxter   SPEAKING OF CLOSE::::::::::::: 11-5-2019 Newshound Guru Jeff ...the news is now suggesting to us we are very close. They're now talking about the reforms. They're talking about amending the Constitution. All of these steps are post rate change steps...a little more time is needed because all of this involves money...we're waiting on that [2020] budget. But when you look at the news it does show you we're very close...

Foxmulder   want to see nega

Steven nabil  ✔  @thestevennabil   This is Iraq’s “Green revolution “ moment, do not let us regret the global reaction later on. #Iraq was set on a very dark path filled with corruption, war lords and a weak government that was caring more for the interest of neighbors than Iraq’s interest ,to correct the course

3:57 PM - Oct 2, 2019   On Friday, Iraqi officials added 9 more deaths in the southern city of Nasiriya to the those killed previously, bringing the total to 42.

The response to the protests has drawn international opprobrium, with Amnesty International accusing Baghdad of using "lethal and unnecessary force."

The International Committee of the Red Cross has pointed to "increasingly violent clashes" between demonstrators and security forces and warned that "firearms and live ammunition must only be used as a last resort."

Iraq   Signtive in a room well here ya go spin this crap into a positive ?

Foxmulder   42 dead that was last month , not including the most recent in the past few weeks ! is there anybody here that can really give a positive response without creating a false narrative !

Madness   been reading some iraq headlnes, my goodness its not looking good for us this year from what I can gather

Baxter   Not good..

madness   looks like they are the verge of an all out war

Baxter   yep... thats my take as well

Baxter   but..OH... we gonna RV.... and SOON

madness   yeah ? right I dont see no rv I see a gov. being over thrown

Baxter   me too Madness

Baxter   I cant believe this is happening after all of this time

spankie   getting rid of the same ole gov too much corruption

Baxter   so much time wasted

madness   they are so corrupt they are willing to destroy the country instead of giving the people their purchase power, just mind blowing

Baxter   yes.. it is

spankie   madness sounds like Maliki

madness   I can see the UN and US putting back sanctions back on them, darn the dime is back on life support

madness   yeah its amazing 1 guy can cause so much turmoil and still be alive

madness   maliki needs to be taken out or we and the iraq people will never get a fair shake, getting to think as long as he is alive, well never see an rv

Baxter   probably correct on that

spankie   totally agree w that

Baxter   Iran influence is getting worse instead of better..

spankie   maliki being alive says the corrupt are still in power- same ole gov

madness   and the idiot gurus chime in like everything is honkie dori oh its this week, banks are on alert, the only thing that these idiot gurus are on alert for, is how much money they can rob the weak minded fools that buy their BS

Baxter   Yes... I saw the word.."Pinging" this morning again.... that word had been lost for quite a while

madness   I thought pinging is when you test the speed of your internet connection

Baxter   it is... but the gurus..say its when the money computers are matching up.... LOL

Baxter   from around the world....

Baxter11-4-2019 Intel Guru MarkZ [via PDK] News from Zurich said hearing it appears going from west to east now...pinging in China and NZ…it may soon appear in US...We should know about 8pm tonight. [Pinging ensures that the computers can talk to each other. That they recognize each other's IP Address.] we are hearing this is all just logistics as China is about to take over from Treasury.

Madness   might let a little of my dinar go for now, cause I can plainly see I can just buy it back in Dec. cause this thing is for sure not going till next year, so we have time.

madness   and if they have an all out war, oh boy guess well all be waiting for a very long time, especially is they get sanctioned by the UN and it sounds like thats what there going to do

Zig   MarkZ: "Pinging ensures that the computers can talk to each other. That they recognize each other's IP Address"

Madness   . one day you will see your dime, thats a fact, but I think with the current situation we may have to wait

Baxter   OH... we will be lucky even next year now...

madness   hope im wrong, but logic does not dictate that

 Baxter   the IMF is never going to allow them Article 8 with the mess they are in.... never in a million years

madness   yeah I think that would just be common sense at this point

Baxter   absolutely

madness   and now they have the UN pissed off at them, soooo we wait

Baxter   yep.. that too...

Baxter   almost 300 dead...8000 injured... govt ready to collapse.... aint gonna happen

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