IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 10-17-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 10-17-19
tman23 Dinar count .... sterling or aka dinar banker was one of the largest dealers , go back and research the FBI documents for sales and money brought in ...keep in mind that there is no way of telling how much revenue was in reserves which was no dinar going out...
look at Sam the scam in Chicago , same thing , then Ali the Iranian ran the same shell game ... but no where can you find close to 48 billion in dinar sales that would place 48 trillion in circulation ....
now I see the amazing Kap calling for a Lop .... guy is in a state of analysis paralysis ... chasing his tail ... nobody knows if redenomination is on the horizon BUT THE CHATTER AMONGST THOSE WHO ARE DEALING ARE CALLING NOVEMBER 13th the biggest wealth day in history ... that leaves us 48 days to end of the calendar year ...
Kaperoni Tman23 your quite the humorist twisting my words
Kaperoni I never called for a LOP
IQD CALLS Chat Early Thursday 10-17-19
tman23 Dinar count .... sterling or aka dinar banker was one of the largest dealers , go back and research the FBI documents for sales and money brought in ...keep in mind that there is no way of telling how much revenue was in reserves which was no dinar going out...
look at Sam the scam in Chicago , same thing , then Ali the Iranian ran the same shell game ... but no where can you find close to 48 billion in dinar sales that would place 48 trillion in circulation ....
now I see the amazing Kap calling for a Lop .... guy is in a state of analysis paralysis ... chasing his tail ... nobody knows if redenomination is on the horizon BUT THE CHATTER AMONGST THOSE WHO ARE DEALING ARE CALLING NOVEMBER 13th the biggest wealth day in history ... that leaves us 48 days to end of the calendar year ...
Kaperoni Tman23 your quite the humorist twisting my words
Kaperoni I never called for a LOP
Kaperoni I simply stated that is what parliament is talking about in those articles. Because parliament would have no other reason to be involved in monetary policy unless they wanted to pass a law to change the value of the existing notes.
Kaperoni that is what gov does. Just look at other countries that LOP'd they had their parliament for example pass a law.
Kaperoni We dont want them involved in the dinar.
Kaperoni It is just comical to me how so many that want some mythical RV will attack me or try to twist my words to discredit the facts.
Kaperoni lol
Kaperoni oh well. maybe iraq launch a market economy and investors will come rushing in to rebuild Iraq and the CBI will float the currency to counter the pressure created and everyone will learn how monetary policy really works. Then I can go to bed with a smile...saying I told you so, lol
Kaperoni or maybe not and parliament will pass a law and screw us all. have a good night.
larrykn Good Morning everyone
larrykn French FM arrives in Baghdad for talks over ISIS, situation in Syrian Kurdistan
French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian has arrived in Baghdad early on Thursday for talks over the trial for ISIS detainees held in Iraq as well as the situation in Syrian Kurdistan where Turkey is leading a massive operation against the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF).
Le Drian will later visit Kurdistan Region, where he is expected to continue talks about the ISIS detainees in Iraq and Syria.
France had expressed concern over the reports claiming that hundreds of ISIS members, including at least eight French national women, escaped detention in Syrian Kurdistan following the Turkish offensives. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44342/French-FM-arrives-in-Baghdad-for-talks-over-ISIS-situation-in-Syrian-Kurdistan
larrykn Estonian Minister of Defence meets troops in Iraq
Defence Minister Jüri Luik began a visit to Iraq on Tuesday, where he met with the country's defence minister Najah Al-Shammar, NATO and U.S.-led military operations leaders, and Estonian troops serving in Iraq, acording to ERR.
Luik said the Estonian Defense Forces have a significant advantage in training wth the Iraqi Armed Forces and Border Guard because they have experience of what it means to practically scratch the Armed Forces.
"The Iraqi armed forces still have a long way to go. Nevertheless, today they are the main force that has managed to keep Daesh (ISIS) under control," said Luik.
At a meeting with the Iraqi Minister of Defense, Luik discussed the security situation in Syria. Ministers acknowledged that the release of prisoners from ISIS would have serious consequences for the whole region, including Iraq.
On Tuesday, Luik also met with Major General Dany Fortin of Canada on the NATO mission to Iraq and Major General Gerald Strickland, the Deputy Commander of the United States-led operation Inherent Resolve. He also met with Estonian troops serving in the operation to gain an overview of their activities.
Estonia is contributing to the United States-led international military operation Inherent Resolve with a six-member training team and one senior officer in a multinational team advising Iraqi ministries and the security forces. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44332/Estonian-Minister-of-Defence-meets-troops-in-Iraq
larrykn Iraq announces arrest of ISIS members crossing border from Syria
Iraq's Ministry of Defense (MoD) announced on Thursday the arrest of a number of ISIS members who had crossed the border into Iraq from the west amid a Turkish military incursion into northern Syria that has resulted in a new crisis in the embattled country.
“A number of ISIS fugitives have been arrested inside Iraqi territory,” the ministry said in a statement, without revealing additional details.
The announcement comes just three days after The Baghdad Post had learnt that Baghdad was deploying more troops to border areas with Syria to prevent possible Islamic State insurgent infiltration.
The MoD statement said that Defense Minister Najah al-Shammari was surveying some of the border areas that had been reinforced with more security forces. He was accompanied by the Kurdistan Region’s Minister of Peshmerga, Shorsh Ismael, along with a number of other officials.
Shammari “stressed the continuation of the operations against infiltrators into Iraqi territory,” and underlined with Ismael that Erbil and Baghdad had been coordinating in matters of security to capture Islamic State fugitives.
The developments come a week after Turkey’s military campaign into northern and northeastern Syria began in a move that has been widely condemned by the international community. Acts committed in northern Syria by Ankara and Islamist groups it backs have repeatedly sparked allegations of war crimes.
Along with indiscriminate killing of civilians by Turkish aerial bombardments, a recent attack on a prison holding Islamic State members has reportedly led to an unspecified number of insurgents fleeing.
Ankara’s military campaign in northern Syria came after the White House announced it was withdrawing American forces from strategic areas in the region following a phone call between US President Donald Trump and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/443
larrykn IMIS deploys snipers to counter protests in Baghdad: Source
The Iranian-backed IMIS militias deployed snipers in Baghdad last month to counter massive protests against government, security sources from Iraq said.
Earlier this month thousands of Iraqis took to the streets in Baghdad and several other southern provinces to call for government resignation as the country still struggles with wide-spread corruption, lack of services, high rate of unemployment.
Different sources working at high-level ranks in Baghdad told Reuters that Hashd al-Shaabi leaders decided on their own during the protests to face the protesters.
“We have confirmed evidence that the snipers were elements of militias reporting directly to their commander instead of the chief commander of the armed forces,” Reuters quoted one of the Iraqi security sources. “They belong to a group that is very close to the Iranians.”
A second Iraqi security source, who attended daily government security briefings, said militia men clad in black shot protesters on the third day of unrest, when the death toll soared to more than 50 from about half a dozen.
The fighters were directed by Abu Zainab al-Lami, head of security for the Hashd al-Shaabi.
The second security source told Reuters that the snipers were using radio communications equipment that was provided by Iran and is difficult to intercept, giving the groups an essentially private network. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44341/IMIS-deploys-snipers-to-counter-protests-in-Baghdad-Source
larrykn French FM holds Iraq talks on ISIS prisoners in Syria
France's top diplomat held talks in Baghdad on Thursday about transferring foreign militants from northern Syria, where a Turkish offensive has triggered fears of mass jailbreaks, to be tried in Iraq.
European governments are worried that the Turkish operation will allow the escape of some of the 12,000 suspected ISIS terrorists, including thousands of foreigners held by Syrian Kurds.
The issue was top of the agenda for French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian in his talks with his Iraqi counterpart Mohammed Ali Al-Hakim, President Barham Saleh and Prime Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi.
"We need to work things out with the Iraqi authorities so that we can find a way to have a judicial mechanism that is able to judge all these fighters, including obviously the French fighters," Le Drian told French TV channel BFM on Wednesday.
The aim is for foreign militants to be tried in Iraqi courts while upholding certain principles of justice and respect for human rights, a French diplomatic source said.
One issue will be Iraq's use of the death penalty, which is outlawed throughout the EU.
Belgium, Britain, Denmark, France, Germany, the Netherlands and Sweden sent officials on a technical mission to Baghdad this week to assess the situation.
"There are talks between the Americans, the British, French and Iraqis about funding the construction of prisons," Hisham Al-Hashemi, an Iraqi expert on Daesh, said.
Hundreds of foreigners have been sentenced to death or life imprisonment in Iraq for belonging to Daesh.
Eleven French militants handed over to Iraqi authorities early this year by US-backed Kurdish forces in Syria were sentenced to death by a court in Baghdad. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44343/French-FM-holds-Iraq-talks-on-ISIS-prisoners-in-Syria
larrykn Have a great day all
chattels In Iraq, Sadr calls for million person march in Karbala during Arba’iin to protest corruption. https://www.rudaw.net/arabic/middleeast/iraq/151020194
chattels " Earlier on Tuesday, the Iraqi judiciary announced the issuance of an arrest warrant for two police officers accused of links to the shooting of demonstrators in the protests in southern areas of the country."
chattels US extends waiver for Iraqi energy imports from Iran https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/171020191
Baxter I just read Tmans comments..and Kaps... and Kap is telling the truth...he never said that they were going to lop...and I agree with him...people read his comments and stretch what he is trying to say... I am intrigued though about Tmans comment.. about Nov 13th... which he never mentioned what that was about....
Doug_W ppl just get bent out of shape easily regarding this Bax
Andrewetoldthem 1st Iraq trying to be to perfect instead of getting **** done look at Kuwait for example when they got **** done they wasn't perfect at 1st but then later they thrive to perfectness ****
the activist but wiling to please your people and their desire should be the matter giving them what they need now and then later give them what they want for example when you ask god for a billion dollar it doesn't fly out the sky does it ? no but instead he send the right people to you to guide you into making that billion dollar --
when you ask him for a house he give you ways to provide for that house that's giving the people what they need instead of giving them what they want because people don't really know what they want without knowing what they need 1st
1 day they might want this next day they want something else so for the people of Iraq claiming they doing protest and riots because of unemployment corruption and money. In willing for them to have money, 1st the money need to be worth something and have value so what Iraq need is a revaluation,
we know they working on the reform and restore but if your money worth nothing giving them job now it's still like they working has a slave and to be able to open up the corruption file you have to show what you can do be better then the previous government
Andrewetoldthem So the activist asking to over thrown Mahdi president Saleh and the speaker Halboussi government because that's the only way the dems think they could make POTUS Fail and his administration
or that's the only way they think they could stop Mahdi to not be able to open up the corruption file but we ALL know Mahdi had nothing to do what happen to Iraq before so there's no needing of resignation
instead he’s the one's helping major with the restoring of Iraq reevaluating the dinar (Iraq currency) so no matter what the dems try it's always going to backfire on them -- that's why they failing now with a major lost last night Elijah Cummings dead R.I.P and they not even talking about it SHAKE MY HEAD !!!
Andrewetoldthem Every time there's going to be something special happen right before it does i come give you news and post like this this time this posts it's right before the revaluation does happen and i also want it to laugh at the dems postponed impeachment their fake 1
I don't won't to spoil the surprise so i can't say when the revaluation going to happen just like Donald trump don't won't to say when the full IG report will be out but ill tell you this your joy its not far
the 2020 budget will be receive by the house representative later today going on tomorrow morning Arabic time and Mahdi reshuffle its already done that's why he ask to remove 3 ministers to add his 3 ministers with the education ministry and health ministry already sworn in they all going to be tackle all at once or 1 after another.................
Andrewetoldthem and good morning brb
Andrewetoldthem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad-2bGISw4Q
Andrewetoldthem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xjBrRX9YUg
Baxter 10-17-2019 Newshound Guru Jeff ...there are two things that have to happen for the rate to change. The first one is Iraq must finish the formation of the government...they've put that into hyper-speed since the demonstrations ...
There's a good chance they could have that done by the end of the year...they just have to get the proxies out and do a cabinet reshuffle...the other thing we are waiting on is the 2020 budget.
The reason why? First off lots of monies in this 2020 budget being utilized for the rate change...it will have Article 140 in it. HCL, those are monies that will be given back to the citizens...they could finish the budget around February...
Andrewetoldthem sound familiar 1 claim they postponed the impeachment another 1 claim they have enough vote to withdraw mahdi gov
Andrewetoldthem Al-Halbousi assures US Assistant Secretary of State of the importance of opening investment to international and local companies and activating the private sector This morning, I met with Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister H.E. @Fuad_Hussein1
. Looking forward to a productive week at #IMFmeetings in Washington. Agency: about a thousand US troops will move from Syria to Iraq and Kuwait
Andrewetoldthem nuff sed cant reveal the date but your joy of success is not far
Baxter next year maybe
Baxter or the next
Baxter or the next
Baxter had so many next I cant count anymore... 14 of em...
Andrewetoldthem yah got to go now not going to reveal the day youll see it for yourself bye
Andrewetoldthem its not far like trump say
Baxter bye... we will see hope so
IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Night 10-16-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Night 10-16-19
Francis AlbertWait a minute..destroy currency? Central Banks destroy debt instruments to suit their motives all the time. Why? Because they create currency for a living. This is not about "money" for Central Banks. It is about market share, dominance of the dollar remaining, power and control.
Francis Albert I argue these very bankers that convinced the Neo Cons, Cheney et al to invade Iraq in the first place have accomplished their goals of killing Saddam who was threatening to sell his oils for Dinar. And, destroying the company so they can get paid to rebuild it with funny money.
Put massive bases in to look after their "national interests" over there. So, IMO they will do everything they can to have Iraq be strong and the people happy and along with the IMF, (same people) are doing all they can to have Iraq do currency reforms.
IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Night 10-16-19
Francis AlbertWait a minute..destroy currency? Central Banks destroy debt instruments to suit their motives all the time. Why? Because they create currency for a living. This is not about "money" for Central Banks. It is about market share, dominance of the dollar remaining, power and control.
Francis Albert I argue these very bankers that convinced the Neo Cons, Cheney et al to invade Iraq in the first place have accomplished their goals of killing Saddam who was threatening to sell his oils for Dinar. And, destroying the company so they can get paid to rebuild it with funny money.
Put massive bases in to look after their "national interests" over there. So, IMO they will do everything they can to have Iraq be strong and the people happy and along with the IMF, (same people) are doing all they can to have Iraq do currency reforms.
Francis Albert So, Kaps ongoing diatribe about money supply etc.just doesn't hunt and is only a thread of the story,
spankie without better value Iraq stays the same as it has been- rioting proves a point
tman23 Dinar count .... sterling or aka dinar banker was one of the largest dealers , go back and research the FBI documents for sales and money brought in ...keep in mind that there is no way of telling how much revenue was in reserves which was no dinar going out...
look at Sam the scam in Chicago , same thing , then Ali the Iranian ran the same shell game ... but no where can you find close to 48 billion in dinar sales that would place 48 trillion in circulation ....
now I see the amazing Kap calling for a Lop .... *** ... *** ... nobody knows if redenomination is on the horizon BUT THE CHATTER AMONGST THOSE WHO ARE DEALING ARE CALLING NOVEMBER 13th the biggest wealth day in history ... that leaves us 48 days to end of the calendar year ...
Zig Nice seeing you post, tman.....wish you would post more.....
tman23 Zig Not much to yak about .... didn’t happen New Years and we knew it wasn’t coming until end of this year .... real question is the risk of placing such a golden egg in the middle of a cesspool ...
doesn’t make much sense .... and calling Iraq an emerging market ?.. that crap has been floating around for 7 years and still nothing emerged
tman23 Kap might as well start playing Russian roulette.... it’s a float ... they can’t lop ... oh it’s a lop ... they can’t do a 1-1 .... the IMF is part of the UN ... love the educational Kap format...and edumacate us on a trustees duties and powers ... rolling my eyes ..... not only is everyone else confused on what a Kap is looking for out of this quagmire..
chattels US President: PKK is worse than ISIS. http://mobp.as/6EoXp
chattels A surprising assessment from Trump.
chattels A good and informative read. Reforming the Electoral System in Iraq: A Detailed Assessment
By Hashim Al-Rikabi - 12/12/2017 http://www.bayancenter.org/en/2017/12/1301/
chattels Any update on Alak's tenure as Governor of the CBI ? tman23 ?
chattels @tman23 " THE CHATTER AMONGST THOSE WHO ARE DEALING ARE CALLING NOVEMBER 13th the biggest wealth day in history ... ", can you say more ?
chattels Cryptic remarks. Never any complete explanation.
chattels The US president said they are not interested in what is happening in Syria, and let Syria and Turkey to solve the problem between them, and said about the Kurds: "They are not angels."
Trump, who previously described the Kurds as "excellent fighters and special people," quickly changed his mind and now says: "Kurds are more protected now, they are not angels, and our friends are not good fighters." https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=792798
chattels These seem very strange times in which we are living.
chattels Perhaps it has always been so and I was simply unaware.
chattels Sunnis support protests in Iraq, yet fear involvement Adnan Abu Zeed October 15, 2019
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-sunni-mosul.html#ixzz62ZpHrbZB
chattels Sistani calls for justice as Iraqi protesters bleed Ali Mamouri October 16, 2019
chattels Sistani himself is facing a difficult time as criticism against him rises among Iraqis. Although he has long criticized successive Iraqi governments for failing to build a functional state and provide sufficient services to the citizens, many Iraqis consider him the mastermind of the Iraqi political process since 2003. Therefore, he is trying to distance himself from the government as much as possible, pressuring behind the scenes for reforms.
Although the protests have calmed somewhat due to the observance of Arbain on Oct. 20, it will be renewed if the government fails to address at least some of the protesters' demands.
chattels Good night and God Bless us everyone.
Kaperoni Tman23 your quite the humorist twisting my words
Kaperoni I never called for a LOP
Kaperoni I simply stated that is what parliament is talking about in those articles. Because parliament would have no other reason to be involved in monetary policy unless they wanted to pass a law to change the value of the existing notes.
Kaperoni that is what gov does. Just look at other countries that LOP'd they had their parliament for example pass a law.
Kaperoni We dont want them involved in the dinar.
Kaperoni It is just comical to me how so many that want some mytical RV will attack me or try to twist my words to discredit the facts.
Kaperoni mythical
Kaperoni lol
Kaperoni oh well. maybe iraq launch a market economy and investors will come rushing in to rebuild Iraq and the CBI will float the currency to counter the pressure created and everyone will learn how monetary policy really works. Then I can go to bed with a smile...saying I told you so, lol
Kaperoni or maybe not and parliament will pass a law and screw us all.
Kaperoni have a good night.
IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Evening 10-16-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Evening 10-16-19
Baxter I like Kap... and he is very knowledgeable in this... but he is kind of... "Old School".. on some of his ideas... I know Iraq cant pay for 42 trillion outstanding dinar to come back in at even a dollar... but... the U.S.... has 2.7 trillion dollars out in the world economy..and we are at least 22 trillion in debt...and we are still doing fine...
the dollar is as strong as ever.. could we come up with the money to pay off our debt...? Heck No... all the other countries are the same way... so I dont think the amt of dinar out there...has to have that much money in the bank.. to be able to pay for it... no country does
Clay https://cbi.iq/static/uploads/up/file-156879800127996.pdf
Dave Clay did you look at that link......note anything strange?
Dave the one you sent from cbi
Baxter what was so strange about it
Dave assets and liabilities....
IQD CALLS Chat Wednesday Evening 10-16-19
Baxter I like Kap... and he is very knowledgeable in this... but he is kind of... "Old School".. on some of his ideas... I know Iraq cant pay for 42 trillion outstanding dinar to come back in at even a dollar... but... the U.S.... has 2.7 trillion dollars out in the world economy..and we are at least 22 trillion in debt...and we are still doing fine...
the dollar is as strong as ever.. could we come up with the money to pay off our debt...? Heck No... all the other countries are the same way... so I dont think the amt of dinar out there...has to have that much money in the bank.. to be able to pay for it... no country does
Clay https://cbi.iq/static/uploads/up/file-156879800127996.pdf
Dave Clay did you look at that link......note anything strange?
Dave the one you sent from cbi
Baxter what was so strange about it
Dave assets and liabilities....
Baxter its in thousands
Baxter you have to add three zeroes
Dave yes but note both lines.........they match to the penny
Baxter im too busy right now
Dave bottom lines......match
Dave to the cent
Baxter well they should.. its a balance sheet
Dave funny it makes no mention of their reserves......70B usd ish either
Dave multiply that by 1000
Zig Yeah....their reserves more than cover the amount of currency out there....almost double.....
Baxter its at least worth a DIME
Dave under liabilities......7,903,265,458
Dave thought reserves would be an asset
Dave Gold holdings considered an asset
Baxter WE SHOULD have showed that to Kap
Dave reads everything
Zig Baxter : You should have!!....get on the ball, will ya??.....lol
Baxter LOL
Clay Dave ni I didnt
Dave not a financial expert........
Dave missed another boat perchance.....have more questions than answers on that
Wilder UAE Becomes World's First Country to Restore Iraqi Churches Destroyed by ISIS. JERUSALEM, Israel - The United Arab Emirates is teaming up with UNESCO to rebuild two Christian churches in Mosul, Iraq that were destroyed by ISIS in 2014. https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/cwn/2019/october/uae-becomes-worlds-first-country-to-restore-iraqi-churches-destroyed-by-isis
Francis Albert Kaperoni brings interesting material to this room. I would encourage those of you who just want to fight with him, to ask good pointed questions and see what we can learn. Snarky is soooo boring. (snarky comments)
Francis Albert We've mentioned JP Morgan and NY Melon as top of the food chain for CBI for years, and then Kap brought in today that Iraq is controlled by IMF. Yes indeed, and The IMF, U.N. all the big banks are either one, drink from the same cup or at the very lease meet and sit with one another.
biff I want my 1.20 dime Baxter ;$$$ ;c-ball
Clay the far more frequently-encountered sense “sarcastic, impertinent or irreverent.”
Whitelions The Central Bank of Iraq announces that the National Bank of the Republic of Belarus issued for circulation updated banknotes of two categories (10, 5) rubles issued in 2009.
Central Bank of Iraq information Office 16 October 2019
Whitelions The Swiss National Bank informs the Central Bank of Iraq of the renewal of its banknote of 100 francs these are iraq money in these countreys
Baxter so what does this mean??
Baxter in English?
Doug_W business as usual just informing other commercial banks they are comming Bax
spankie thx whitelions--lol
Baxter I kind of figured... just more news that leads to nowhere... but I do appreciate it
Baxter maybe next year
WilderA link to what Whitelions was sharing earlier. Economy News _ Baghdad
The Central Bank of Iraq, Monday, informed all Iraqi banks of the new version of the category of 200 Swiss francs. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=14066
16 Oct 19, 07:13 PMWilderThe Central Bank of Iraq announces that the National Bank of the Republic of Belarus issued for circulation updated banknotes of two categories (10, 5) rubles issued in 2009.
Central Bank of Iraq information Office 16 October 2019 . https://cbi.iq/news/view/1315
Francis Albert Previously from Sir Kaperoni
Francis Albert But if they were to RV at let’s say 1 to 1 then the liability would become $42 trillion dollars…and this is why we say the CBI could never substantially RV because they couldn’t afford $42 trillion dollars.
That is why Parliament wants to pass a law to Lop the zeros because the liability of 42 trillion would in fact then become 42 billion…
Read more at: https://dinardetectives.com/kaperoni-506/
Francis Albert To respond to Kap's quote above. Black and White, he's correct. The balance sheet actually shows the 48 Billion number of Dinars is in Thousands...so, little error there..but in thousands the balance sheet from CBI shows 48 Trillion Dinar "
Francis Albert excuse...fat finger....shows 48 Trillion Dinar "out there." Higher than what Kap has been saying. The things I believe he's missing. Firstly the Oil Credits and the banks create the dollars, UST ends up with oodles of Dinar and exchange bank to CBI, (when it is comfortable for Iraq), at a cheap oil cost. Without the credits the whole point of the war is moot.
Francis Albert Secondly, no one, including myself or Kap knows where these 48 Trillion Dinar are. He's assuming if Dinar goes from current to .50 then Iraq has to pony up 24 Trillion Dollars. Bad assumption.
IMO, the vast, vast majority of these Dinar are in Central Banks around the globe. The very Central Banks that orchestrated the war. They have all the prerogative in the World to exchange whenever they want, up to 10 years..or not at all.
Francis Albert Wait a minute..destroy currency? Central Banks destroy debt instruments to suit their motives all the time. Why? Because they create currency for a living. This is not about "money" for Central Banks. It is about market share, dominance of the dollar remaining, power and control.
Francis Albert I argue these very bankers that convinced the Neo Cons, Cheney et al to invade Iraq in the first place have accomplished their goals of killing Saddam who was threatening to sell his oils for Dinar. And, destroying the company so they can get paid to rebuild it with funny money.
Put massive bases in to look after their "national interests" over there. So, IMO they will do everything they can to have Iraq be strong and the people happy and along with the IMF, (same people) are doing all they can to have Iraq do currency reforms.
Francis Albert So, Kaps ongoing diatribe about money supply etc.just doesn't hunt and is only a thread of the story,
IQD CALLS Chat Early Wednesday 10-16-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Early Wednesday 10-16-19
Chattels sandyf posted financial statements from the CBI earlier. https://cbi.iq/static/uploads/up/file-156879800127996.pdf
chattels Under Liabilities, 31-Auq-2019, Currency issued, 48,589,655,939
Baxter THAT would be 48 Billion wouldnt it?
Baxter not trillion....
spankie ur right Bax
Baxter thats what I thought... so where is the 42 trillion dinar out there
JoeSchmoe Baxter chattels is that 48 billion the amount that is in circulation right now?
Baxter I dont know... but thats what it says to me
JoeSchmoe hmm....just when you think SandyF is total anti dinar, he puts out a little nugget like that?
Baxter know
JoeSchmoe IF it is the amount in circ
JoeSchmoe currently
Baxter I dont believe much of anything anymore
JoeSchmoe yea
Zig Look at the heading of that: "IQD Thousand"......you have to multiply any number you see there by 1,000.....
Baxter ZIG... theres always fine print..... isnt there....
IQD CALLS Chat Early Wednesday 10-16-19
Chattels sandyf posted financial statements from the CBI earlier. https://cbi.iq/static/uploads/up/file-156879800127996.pdf
chattels Under Liabilities, 31-Auq-2019, Currency issued, 48,589,655,939
Baxter THAT would be 48 Billion wouldnt it?
Baxter not trillion....
spankie ur right Bax
Baxter thats what I thought... so where is the 42 trillion dinar out there
JoeSchmoe Baxter chattels is that 48 billion the amount that is in circulation right now?
Baxter I dont know... but thats what it says to me
JoeSchmoe hmm....just when you think SandyF is total anti dinar, he puts out a little nugget like that?
Baxter know
JoeSchmoe IF it is the amount in circ
JoeSchmoe currently
Baxter I dont believe much of anything anymore
JoeSchmoe yea
Zig Look at the heading of that: "IQD Thousand"......you have to multiply any number you see there by 1,000.....
Baxter ZIG... theres always fine print..... isnt there....
Wilder 48,589,655,939. Same thing you guys were talking about in September. https://dinarrecaps.com/our-blog/iqd-calls-chat-early-wednesday-9-25-19-part-1-of-2
Baxter you have to multiply that by 1000
Baxter so it is trillion
Wilder Same song different day.
Baxter yep
Wilder Why multiply?
Baxter because thats what it says on the page
Baxter it says .. in thousands
Wilder 1000000000000. Is this 1 trillion?
Baxter yes
Doug_W too many 0's I am dizzy now Wilder
Clay me too no comas
Wilder Help me out here. That number referring to dinar?
Wilder Hold on a sec
Clay https://cbi.iq/static/uploads/up/file-156879800127996.pdf
Clay look there
Baxter yes.. its IQD Thousand
Wilder A trillion is 1,000,000,000,000
Baxter yes
Wilder 48,589,655,939 only 9 digits here after the 48
Doug_W that is 48 Billion
Baxter I know.. but that is in thousands.... you have to multiply it again by 1000
Wilder Why
Baxter because that is how it is shown.. it is shown in thousands
Baxter to get the end result..you have to multiply by 1000
Baxter look at the link clay brought in above.. it says... in thousands
Wilder Im skipping this class. Give me a big F. Can i go hone now?
Baxter they are too dam lazy to put three extra 0's in it
Baxter if they would just put three zeroes in it.. it wouldnt confuse everyone... its all b >>>S
Doug_W Wilder U get an A+
Wilder Left collum says total assets. 105,675,079,542 ..now what the heck is that?
Baxter deposit a dime.. for more information... LOL
Wilder Times a thousand
Baxter most likely...yes
Baxter probably all of those figures are multiplied by 1000
Baxter thats what i would think
Baxter it would be much simpler if they would just put three zeroes on there
Baxter 10-16-2019 Intel Gurus Walkingstick & Frank26 ...IMO they have a date and they have a time to deliver the lower denoms. Yesterday they delivered a receipt. The only ting missing yesterday was the pictures and the descriptions of the lower denoms...I can't prove it to you...Does anyone want to bet me that they will see them [lower denoms] in the next week or so?
Wilder Lol. Want my address? I'll wait at the mail box. Or you could drop the dinar off on way to Florida.
Baxter I think I am taking it to florida with me..
Baxter went to the bank this morning and they want a hundred bucks for a stupid safety deposit box
Baxter ridiculous
biff More small denoms ;$$$
Wilder Guess you don't hate it bad enough yet.
Baxter guess not
Biff Baxter I had 3 million in 50 IQD notes had to dump them. that *was heavy.
Wilder I'd bet frank or walking stick if they'd pay up.
Wilder iMO's don't cut it with me
Baxter hey..look at dimes... 20 dollars in dimes weighs one pound... a million dollars in dimes.. weighs 50,000 pounds
Kaperoni I just have a minute but I wanted to clarify something
Kaperoni When people read these documents and they're talking about dinar in circulation and they're referencing billions
Kaperoni That is correct but that is in relationship to dollars. At the current exchange rate the cbi's liability for in excess of 42 trillion dinar is at or around 40 billion dollars
Kaperoni But if they were to RV at let's say 1 to 1 then the liability would become $42 trillion dollars
Kaperoni This is a ridiculous number and this is why we say the CBI could never substantially RV because they couldn't afford $42 trillion dollars
spankie thx for that clarification Kap
Kaperoni That is why Parliament wants to pass a law to Lop the zeros because the liability of 42 trillion would in fact then become 42 billion
spankie china has around 195 trillion yuan out- they r 7 to 1 usd
Kaperoni spankie so what is the total liability you were saying China has compared to u.s. dollars?
spankie 30 tril usd- around that
Kaperoni Well I haven't done any research on China so I can't argue with you but my information that the total money supply of all countries added together liability is only around 11 trillion dollars.
Zig Kaperoni : Hi Kap.....gonna have to start charging you rent here..... :na;
Baxter The U.S.... has about 2.7 Trillion Dollars in the world...and we are over 22 trillion dollars in debt.. yet our dollar is the most used in the world...
Kaperoni Baxter well even if you used your numbers they're still less than Iraq at a one-to-one RV so what does that tell you? It should tell you that Iraq could never RV at $42 trillion
Baxter can the u.s. cover 22 trillion... heck no
Kaperoni And you think Iraq cover twice that much?
Baxter no.. but the U S is doing just fine
Baxter I dont think they have to cover anything
Baxter its all digital numbers
Kaperoni But Iraq would have the physical currency in circulation and the US doesn't have that much physical currency in circulation
Baxter the U S is worse.... we are over ten times in debt than our total currency in the world
spankie I think there is around a total of 240 trillion out there w all currencies in the world -
Kaperoni There is a difference between debt and physical liability
Baxter you are worried about covering the amt of money out there.. it doesnt work that way
Baxter you are old school..... its not like that anymore
spankie like a loan?
Baxter not one country in the world has a positive flow of currency
Baxter not one
Baxter tell me of a country that has a profit
Baxter there isnt any
Baxter they are all flat broke
spankie like usa- lol
Baxter look at the mess in England...germany.... australia... venezuella..
Baxter venezuella has the largest oil reserves in the world... flat broke
Kaperoni Baxter there is much more to it then that you're simplifying things and that's not how the CBI works the CBI is responsible for managing monetary policy and keeping its stability any kind of significant RV would throw the entire monetary policy into chaos
Baxter the CBI is in chaos now
Baxter all of them
Zig Kaperoni : Bring Enorrste with you sometime....for a chat.....
Baxter i dont think the amt of dinar out there has anything to do with this at all
Kaperoni Baxter not true at all they've held stability at the CBI for 16 months within 2%. Maintaining price stability throughout the country is important and that is what the IMF Works diligently with every country to do. That is what you read when you read these articles about stability
spankie is the imf in charge or the central banks
Baxter I can agree on a float... but not starting at 1160....
Baxter but.. hopefully we will see
Zig Baxter : Then starting at what?
spankie .86
Baxter 86 cents... removing the three zeroes
Baxter LOL
Baxter beat me to it spankie
Kaperoni spankie the IMF is part of the United Nations. There is an agreement with every member country that they will follow the directives as a member.
But Iraq is different as well because in December of 2015 they signed an agreement known as a standby agreement with Iraq to allow the IMF to be trustee over the CBI. If you look up the definition of a trustee you will see that they have control. And as a result, significant progress has been made at the CBI over the last few years in many areas
Baxter maybe we will see someday...... who knows
Baxter wont be this year.. thats certain
spankie thx Kap- can they make a move without the imf?
Zig Would you liken a "trustee" as a "boss"......or less?
Kaperoni Baxter well we can beg to differ but if you believe that they are going to diversify and create a market economy then there will be substantial investment coming into the country. Which will create a significant amount of pressure on the financial system to maintain stability and so the CBI will need to float the currency in order to maintain stability.
When I mean stability I'm talking about price stability. So they will need to have a lot of room per se to allow room for the currency to appreciate during that economic boom
Baxter well... we have to get stability first in any case...and its not there now.....
Kaperoni spankie I'm sure they can make a move without the IMF but Iraq is an emerging market and they want to be part of the UN and they want to be part of the IMF and they want the world to do business with them so it would be probably foolish to make a move of any kind without consulting with the IMF first
Kaperoni Baxter they have Financial stability but you are correct they do not have stability with the citizens
spankie wonder how stable- just government all placed-
Baxter there are many..many countries on the verge of flat bankruptcy... the money system in the world is a mess.. our own fed govt is putting in 60 billion dollars a month.. to keep us afloat...
Baxter 60 billion a month..
Baxter thats all Iraq has...and we are doing that every month
spankie q e 4
Baxter and its all paper money.. there is nothing to back it up
Kaperoni Sorry I got to run I stayed longer than I should but it was a good talk have a good day everyone
Baxter by Kap
spankie I believe Iraq will never be stable - I think they will ad stability with value- the riots are saying alot
Baxter I agree...
Baxter bring on the riots....maybe they will help
spankie poor and broken w no homes adds chaos
Baxter especially when they see these diplomats living in luxury
Baxter this has been going on for decades..who wouldnt be tired of it
spankie value will show investors Iraq is open for business
spankie way it is nothing will move forward
Baxter nope
Baxter its just not working
spankie .86- laterz- food
IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Night 10-15-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Night 10-15-19
JoeSchmoe anything exciting in the world of dinarhea today?
Francis Albert Joe...everything they've done and are doing as we speak is just what investors in this want to see.
Francis Albert Don't quit your day job, but IMO all is well.
Wilder And
Francis Albert I have no sources, just a pretty good understanding of finance, Central Banking etc. and there's no way one can objectively look at the actions of the CBI over the past few years and especially the past six months, and come to any other conclusion that there's currency reform underway in Iraq.
Francis Albert How that will play out for investors in this specific currency is all conjecture, for no one knows...who's talking
Francis Albert There's a fellow who comes in here from time to time, (that's how I found this room), by the name of Kaperoni with some strong opinions on why a classic RV, many talk about i.e. Dinar popping to $3.00 something overnight is not going to happen. And, I totally agree with his opinion on this.
Francis Albert So, all the various bank screen stuff talked about over the years, is, of course, just silliness.
Francis Albert You would not have to know anything about much of anything regarding the economy or money and know you can not telegraph a significant change in a currency to anyone. If some big shot knew about this and even told his partner, that would be insider trading.
IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Night 10-15-19
JoeSchmoe anything exciting in the world of dinarhea today?
Francis Albert Joe...everything they've done and are doing as we speak is just what investors in this want to see.
Francis Albert Don't quit your day job, but IMO all is well.
Wilder And
Francis Albert I have no sources, just a pretty good understanding of finance, Central Banking etc. and there's no way one can objectively look at the actions of the CBI over the past few years and especially the past six months, and come to any other conclusion that there's currency reform underway in Iraq.
Francis Albert How that will play out for investors in this specific currency is all conjecture, for no one knows...who's talking
Francis Albert There's a fellow who comes in here from time to time, (that's how I found this room), by the name of Kaperoni with some strong opinions on why a classic RV, many talk about i.e. Dinar popping to $3.00 something overnight is not going to happen. And, I totally agree with his opinion on this.
Francis Albert So, all the various bank screen stuff talked about over the years, is, of course, just silliness.
Francis Albert You would not have to know anything about much of anything regarding the economy or money and know you can not telegraph a significant change in a currency to anyone. If some big shot knew about this and even told his partner, that would be insider trading.
Francis Albert I can recall a few years ago, The Central Bank of Switzerland made a statement. They were get bombed with Euros coming in exchanging for Swiss Francs and it was driving up their currency way too much for their liking.
Rumors began to fly that they will be de pegging from the Euro. They cam out with a strong public statement saying the peg with the Euro was etched in stone etc. Two days later they de pegged from the Euro. Central banks do what they want, or what the people who control them want.
Francis Albert All evidence says the big banks, the usual suspects, control the CBI, and have since the invasion. And I believe it is in their best interests to have a stable Iraq, (that they are using to keep an eye on their "national interests" And happy Iraqi's who don't ask too many questions. So, all evidence suggests the big players, the people who own and control Dollar Inc. are supporting currency "something" in Iraq.
Sparky ... interesting...
TWWIII hummmm
Francis Albert Just musings...could all be wrong.
Sparky Francis Albert ... appreciate what you bring... definitely worth pondering...
Francis Albert Investments have to "make sense" for me to get involved.
spankie with the Kuwait dollar being valuable and iqd nothing - strange
Sparky spankie ...agree... especially when they were historically part of Iraq...
Francis Albert Knocking the IQD o program rate is a mechanism "they" use to steal all the stuff of those on the loosing end.
Francis Albert Kuwait was a different deal.
Sparky spankie ... currency manipulation seems apararant... Francis brings a very good point...the CB's do whatever they want to do...
spankie iraq needs purchase power for all that is needed- where the value is now will cost so much more to rebuild
Francis Albert They have the franchise to Monetize Debt, create currencies
spankie franchise being oil
Sparky spankie ...not necessarily...
spankie what?
Francis Albert Right, in a Dollar World, which it is..more difficult, but not necessary. Look at Viet Nam ..their currency is less to the dollar than the IQD, and they are booming.
Sparky spankie ... they can create more $...
Francis Albert The franchise to monetize debt..the Central Banks and the banks that own them monetize debt instruments.
spankie why not iraq same as vietnom
spankie no oil?
Francis Albert Well, Vietnam has huge exports all over the World... so, a currency at .0000004 (something like that) suits them just fine. Iraq's only real export is oil, and that is sold in dollars and will be till the end of the dollar.
Sparky Francis Albert ... disagree
Sparky Francis Albert ... agriculture, tourism, flared gas reconciliation...many earth resources...yet to monetize...imo...
Francis Albert And for those things to sell abroad the lower their currency is the better for the producers.
Sparky Francis Albert ... potential debt instruments...
Francis Albert what does that mean"
Baxter Francis Albert In your opinion.. when do you believe this stuff will be worth a dime
Baxter one frickin dime...
Sparky Francis Albert ...in country wealth...post Reconstruction imports necessary to rebuild...
Francis Albert Oh...the future is tough to predict. If I was on a game show and had to "had to" come up with an answer and the host knew the right answer. I would guess, the put the IQD international on FOREX at .86 and watch it trade up from there.
Sparky Francis Albert higher value preferred for importation ?
Francis Albert Well, No not really Sparky. Countries are always trying to pound their currencies down i.e. Yuan and Dollar to make their stuff more attractive.
Sparky Francis Albert ... disagree
Francis Albert President often talks about how the Dollar is too strong.
Sparky Francis Albert ... circular logic...
Francis Albert OK, you have not said anything logical as yet that I can even respond to, so we should probably just end this here.
Sparky...dollar too strong... for manufacturing countries...not energy producing emerging markets...lol...
Baxter DID you ask him if the world was flat?? LOL
Sparky Baxter ...FA had some good stuff...but, lost me... Central bank creation of money one of them...
Baxter he does seem to know things about central banks...
Baxter PELOSI just announced the Dems are going to hold off on the impeachment proceedings.. LOL
Sparky Baxter ... I do believe CB's can and do what they choose to do...
Baxter not so sure....could be..
Sparky Baxter . .QE 1 ,2 ,3...
Sparky . . I'm pretty certain that they can...
Baxter not a clue
Sparky Baxter ...imho...
Baxter guess what... we have at least 50 stored nuclear bombs... in Turkey.... aint that nice
-15-2019 Newshound/Intel Guru BGG According to this article... “The protests are back on the 25th of this month" The demonstrators identify 23 demands The demonstrator demands listed include: # 1) declare a real war on corruption and open all the files of corruption and with the help of specialized international bodies to issues of corruption and the enactment of the law where you (got) This. # 5) Cancellation of the currency auction and the adoption of free market policy.
Dave Baxter that news is 13 days old
Baxter well.. its dated today
Baxter and..so what if it is
Baxter what the heck is 13 days over 14 years
Dave hope it has teeth this time?
Baxter DID you see above where Pelosi is not gonna vote for impeachment at this time... LOL
Baxter she doesnt have the votes of her own party
Dave extended 2 week deadline to the 25yj last week
Baxter I just like that number 5
Sandyf @Baxter biff didnt count that.. they say there is 42 trillion OUTSIDE of Iraq....
I don't know "they" are but I have never seen anyone say that. The only figure that means anything is the liability for currency in the CBI accounts and that currently stands at 48.5 trillion dinar.
https://cbi.iq/static/uploads/up/file-156879800127996.pdf
The accounts for 2005 showed that approximately 6 trillion was required to exchange previous versions into the new dinar and since then the amount has grown significantly each year. How much currency outside Iraq is pure speculation but comparisons to population and business growth have put estimates at around 25 - 40%.
Wilder TWWIII. What you said earlier. E.B. Tucker, director of Metalla Royalty & Streaming, doubled down on his bet earlier this year that gold would eventually rise to $1,500, an now he’s betting that silver will hit $20 in the next two months
Portmagaland JFK Jr. Coming back in Dallas at President Trump's rally is going to be epic!
Portmagaland Or not.
Wilder Ive heard rumors he would be trumps pick for vp
Portmagaland Francis Albert So, if the rumors are true that President Trump bought all that Dinar and now that he's President they will actually hold a vote this time, instead of crying wolf, and impeach President Trump for insider trading?
Young_SC Wilder who cares
Portmagaland Wilder Did you see Kelly Anne's video?
Wilder Portmagaland no
Portmagaland Wilder https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i9ENi21op2w
Portmagaland Wilder You see the video?
Portmagaland Young_SC Pence's name is missing on the 2020 campaign signs in most recent rally. Could be nothing?
Portmagaland I mean Wilder, I know Young doesnt care
Wilder What's your thought on video?
Portmagaland Wilder The lady that made that video did another one prior to the one I posted, where Trump gives a speech at the White House press room. She implies that Pence helped write the whistleblower speech, but it appears it was a disgruntled Bolton today.
Portmagaland Wilder I wish it JFK Jr. being alive is true. If it were true, I feel only Jesus carries more power to heal our divides today. I bought the 20 anniversary George magazine today because of that video. I hope, just like I hope for this dinar only more.
Wilder I have never had good thoughts on pence. Something about him doesn't go well with me.
Portmagaland Wilder Apparently theres an email.thread with Paul Ryan out there, where they discuss some "options".
Portmagaland Before Trump took office
Portmagaland There's so much disinformation out there, it's just like dinarland.
Wilder Absolutely.
Portmagaland Wilder Honestly, I dont know what to believe, so I just hope and pray for the best and prepare for the worst.
Wilder It would helo if they would put term linits on all affices.
Portmagaland Wilder Agreed
IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 10-15-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 10-15-19
Chattels Courtesy Dinar Updates " In 2004, during the US-led Coalition Provisional Authority following the US-British occupation of Iraq, the Central Bank of Iraq established the so-called "hard currency daily auction" as part of its efforts to revalue the Iraqi dinar. Sometimes this amount is usually from Iraqi oil revenues sold.
The auction has continued to operate since then. Iraqi observers and officials estimate the value of the dollar sold in this auction over the past fifteen years, more than $ 300 billion, most of which came out of Iraq to other countries without achieving benefit for the Iraqi dinar and its value, which remains under the logical limit of the fifth largest oil producer in the world (1200 dinars per dollar)."
chattels " ......... the Iraqi dinar and its value, which remains under the logical limit of the fifth largest oil producer in the world (1200 dinars per dollar)." Dated October 9, 2019.
Chattels If one takes the time to read the commentary made over time by sandyf then there is both logic and hope in all of this.
Chattels The central bank sells more than $ 233 million at a currency auction today
IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 10-15-19
Chattels Courtesy Dinar Updates " In 2004, during the US-led Coalition Provisional Authority following the US-British occupation of Iraq, the Central Bank of Iraq established the so-called "hard currency daily auction" as part of its efforts to revalue the Iraqi dinar. Sometimes this amount is usually from Iraqi oil revenues sold.
The auction has continued to operate since then. Iraqi observers and officials estimate the value of the dollar sold in this auction over the past fifteen years, more than $ 300 billion, most of which came out of Iraq to other countries without achieving benefit for the Iraqi dinar and its value, which remains under the logical limit of the fifth largest oil producer in the world (1200 dinars per dollar)." LINK
chattels " ......... the Iraqi dinar and its value, which remains under the logical limit of the fifth largest oil producer in the world (1200 dinars per dollar)." Dated October 9, 2019.
Chattels If one takes the time to read the commentary made over time by sandyf then there is both logic and hope in all of this.
Chattels The central bank sells more than $ 233 million at a currency auction today
Tuesday 15 October 12:35 2019 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=792498
Baxter crooks must have needed another paycheck.. they had an auction
chattels Monday, October 14, 2019 Crackdown Continues Against Protesters While Iraq Govt Announces Investigations
The last protests in Iraq took place on October 9. Prime Minister Abdul Mahdi claimed he made a deal to hold off on further activism until after the Arbaeen pilgrimage.
Now demonstrators said they would return October 25. There have been posts on social media on preparations such as making metal shields for protection against the security forces. It’s yet to be seen whether the government will respond again with violence, which cost over 100 lives, and saw attacks upon the media.
https://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2019/10/crackdown-continues-against-protesters.html
chattelshttps://twitter.com/JoelWing2
Baxter let the riots begin.. cant hurt us any how can you go below a tenth of a penny
chattels Iraq launches probe into killing of protesters
13-10-2019 https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/13102019
Clay wow 6000 injured, 100s killed Clay not good
Baxter probably going to get worse....
Clay yep
Clay not a way to rebuild a country
Baxter not a way to rv a currency either
chattels And that's the way that it is from the news that I read out of Iraq on this Tuesday, the 15th day of October, 2019.
chattels Almost the end of 2019.
chattels 2020 is a good number.
Doug_W Silver:$17.61 -0.15
Dave arrg......Demonstrators had given Govt 2 weeks to get those corruptors 13 days ago......learn that it has been extended to the 25th.....
Baxter yes... did you see the metal shields they are building for the demonstration?
Baxter look like something the Romans had.. LOL
Dave no....
Dave yeh they got tanks.....
Dave hard to say how this will play out......guys like Maliki wont do down without a fight
Dave what do they have to loose......
Dave ...so the Govt promises to build 100s of thousands of low cost housing units
Dave after decades of destruction.......who isd going to build them
Dave average age of 24 yrs.........not many skilled tradesmen to build squat
Goofus WARNING: A message from Joe Biden:
NEVER, discuss your son’s business ventures with him -- as it will be extremely harmful for your political aspirations.
Baxter Goofus so true... did you see where Warren is now ahead of Biden...
Goofus Joe is "Toast"
Francis Albert sandyf@Sam I Am Zig That was another BS guru theory ... that the US Govt holds trillions of dinar that they're going to exchange post-RV and pay off the national debt
Francis Albert This is one of my favorites too that Sandyf posted last night. So, if UST had Trillions or billions or even millions of Dinar to cash in to pay off the debt. Where would the money come from?
Dave Kap.... Finally agreed with the wheel barrow scenario........
Francis Albert What is Kap's wheel barrow scenario?
Dave Francis Albert Newbie?
spankie wallet or wheelbarrow for the fils
Dave and low denoms
spankie 1000 iqd for a coke
Dave exactly
Francis Albert I've just seen Kap's stuff on Recaps and I came in a few weeks ago to posit some arguments saying his 40 Trillion Dinar money supply makes most of what investors are looking for obsolete,
Dave Francis Albert yes those hard currency exchanges at CBI are meaningless....LOL
Francis Albert And I've given some reasons here and there why I don't think it is a problem for raising the value of the IQD
Dave 4 T a month
Dave for well over a yr
spankie china yuan around 195 trillion out there
Dave how many Zim .....lol
Dave USD still King
Dave ...until this GCR.....lol
Dave go Zim.......
spankie usa keeps dropping interest rates- near zero now- keeping economy afloat pumping billions into it
Dave about 3 % here on a mortgage
Dave 29 % on CC
Dave banks doing ok me thinks
Dave banking fees...use of debit and atms.....
Dave .how much per tap to buy that coffee
Dave peeps tap tap tap
spankie if they only have to keep 3% of your money with fractional reserve banking and there is a run on the banks there will be a problem- that 250k insurance per account wont work-
Dave spankie true that
spankie if economy so great then why lower rates more and more for lending-should be opposite
Dave monies that banks do not have
Dave costs of merchandise
Dave peeps in india and china no longer work for next to nodda
spankie china stole all the good paying jobs-- now we get part time w no medical coverage
Dave we got fat and lazy.....
Dave out sourced it all
spankie looking at a new laptop battery- made in usa cheaper than chinese junk batteries- tarrifs maybe working- go trump
Dave post ww11 USA made most everything in the world
spankie I would rather pay more for something made here that will last and help americans than get chinese made stuff that looks good but does not last- just more polution
spankie too much walmart mentality
Dave most Americans work foot to mouth......
spankie dollar stores opened up a 1000 more stores this year- dollar stuff shows people do not have the money
Dave Min wage of 15/hr.........barely pays the bills
spankie most are a few paychecks away from not paying the bills
spankie watch ur debt and all be good
Doug_W Silver:$17.50 -0.26
Dave funny how the Govt is promising housing bumping up welfare......opening up Private sector ......still.....but nothing on those arrest warrants which the Demonstrators demand
Doug_W 17.51 -0.25
Wilder TWWIII what do you thinkk silver is going to do?
TWWIII Wilder I think silver will be over 20usd by early Jan 2Q2Q
Wilder That would be great.
TWWIII Wilder I buy & invest long term always & has been good for me
Wilder Physical?
TWWIII Wilder ALWAYS never contrack paper
TWWIII Silver will be easier to convert than gold I believe
TWWIII If u bought a loaf of bread, in the future @ 2usd per loaf, which would be easier to convert? A gram of silver or a gram of gold???
Clay right
Doug_W TWWIII I totally agree
Doug_W only a "big" business can "handle" the value of gold
TWWIII Clay In 1977 I was buying silver for 4.20usd & gold was 152usd & I was buying both in 1998.
Clay wow
Clay I reme4mber when gold was low
Baxter Dow Jones up over 27,000 again....
Clay wow
TWWIII 1998 - Silver 5.00usd+, Gold 260-300.00usd
Clay TWWIII silver was what an oz
Baxter I remember when gold was 37 dollars an ounce..and there was no variation in price... thats the way it should be now..we wouldnt be in this mess
TWWIII Baxter Yes 1970's
Baxter yep
TWWIII I know it well
Baxter so do i
Baxter when we went off the gold standard... that was a big mistake
Baxter Nixon did that.. I think
TWWIII 1971 the cabals blackmailed Nixon then Gold was no longer our standard
Baxter yep.. Nixon
IQD CALLS Chat Monday Night 10-14-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Monday Night 10-14-19
Baxter zig.. about yesterday...if 2 million in the US have dinar...and each has a million... that comes to 200 billion dollars\
Baxter I just worked up the zeroes..pretty sure thats right
Baxter I doubt if there are two million any more... let alone a million a piece..
Doug_W thats 200 Million
Baxter no . its not
Zig 2 trillion
Baxter no.. its two hundred billion
Baxter just take a piece of paper and write out 2,000,000 then add one zero on the end for ten... hundred... thousand.. hundred thousand..and million....
IQD CALLS Chat Monday Night 10-14-19
Baxter zig.. about yesterday...if 2 million in the US have dinar...and each has a million... that comes to 200 billion dollars\
Baxter I just worked up the zeroes..pretty sure thats right
Baxter I doubt if there are two million any more... let alone a million a piece..
Doug_W thats 200 Million
Baxter no . its not
Zig 2 trillion
Baxter no.. its two hundred billion
Baxter just take a piece of paper and write out 2,000,000 then add one zero on the end for ten... hundred... thousand.. hundred thousand..and million....
Baxter so you are multiplying it by ten each time
Zig a million times a million is a trillion
Doug_W O thot a thousand Million was a Trillion
Zig No a billion
Baxter no... a 1000 million is a billion... a thousand billion is a trillion
Doug_W yes
Zig Yes and a million million is a trillion
Baxter if you have 2,000,000 people..and each person has one dinar.. that would be 2 million dinar..
Baxter if each has ten... that would be 20 million dinar.. if each has a 100.. that would be 200 million dinar.. if each has a thousand.. that would be two billion dinar.. if each has a hundred thousand..that would be 20 billion dinar..and if each has a million.. that would be 200 billion dinar
Baxter i think thats right
Baxterim just saying... for there to be like 40 trillion dinar in the U S.... that is not possible
Doug_W UNLESS the Feds have it Bax
Baxter i doubt if there is a half trillion
Baxter a trillion is a huge number
Clay I dont believe they all own a million
Doug_W 1000000000000
Clay most probably 100,000
Baxter just sayin.... 42 trillion is a huge number..
Clay yep
Baxter for example.. if the moon is 250,000 miles from earth.... you would have to go back and forth... FOUR MILLION TIMES... to make One Trillion
Baxter times that by 42... or 168 million trips to the moon and back.. to hit 42 trillion
Baxter thats a lot of dinar
Clay too much
Baxter yes.. it is... maybe all of those articles are B .. S
Clay yep
Biff Baxter What about 10 thousand holding dinar in banks in Iraq?
Baxter biff didnt count that.. they say there is 42 trillion OUTSIDE of Iraq.... but I seriously doubt many people in Iraq have piles of it under their mattresses... they have to be about flat broke... unemployment at 40%....
Matt Tweet FROM TNT Toney "Holiday schedule today everyone. No call. They are at the exchange center. Been there since 6 am. If I get anything I’ll tweet it out. TNT TONY"
Matt "They are at the exchange center" Who is They?
Matt Dow Jones Industrial Average INDEXDJX: .DJI 26,787.36 −29.23 (0.11%
Baxter Matt THEY... I would assume... is people cashing out.....
Matt Right LOL
Baxter now if you believe that... I cant help ya
Baxter GEE.. Hunter Biden just resigned from the board of the chinese factory.... i wonder why..
Baxter well.. the other day it was announced that Biden.. when he was V P... worked and knew the so called Whistleblower.... now.. whats up with that?
Then.. today... His son Hunter.. resigns from his board seat of the chinese company that was paying him 158,000 dollars a month... darn.. what a co incidence eh?
Wilder Baxter And your just looking for a dime.
LeLe Baxter Hunter, Where is Hunter? Hunter got called out by our President. Hunter didn't want to mess with Trump. Lol
Sandyf @Sam I Am Zig That was another BS guru theory ... that the US Govt holds trillions of dinar that they're going to exchange post-RV and pay off the national debt
One of the big problems in dinarland is that a piece of information gets misconstrued and morphs into different rumours. It was the Wanta trillions that were to pay off the national debt, not any return from dinar. From 2010
"Particularly big when various foreign countries are rooting for the “Wanta Plan” to rescue the U.S. like the Marshall Plan did for Europe post WWII, because it will help save them as well.
This is a key event of our lives going on right here: the missing 70 TRILLION dollars connected to the criminal endeavors of Clinton-Bush crime team Presidents with the Federal Reserve.
That side of the group wants a destruction of the U.S. to continue the NWO. The other side–all the rest of U.S. with many foreign countries and banks–wants the injection of the U.S. 70 trillion that would wipe out U.S. debt in literally weeks."
https://dastych.wordpress.com/2010/02/18/the-wanta-plan-the-global-security-fund/
sandyf @Kaperoni Articles and documents over the years and certainly there are documents that talk about raising the value but I don't think I've ever seen one where they said it would happen overnight. The only people who are talking about something happen overnight are the gurus.
Most of what you say is spot on although I would disagree on some points. When Iraq talks about raising the value, they are talking about the monetary unit. All there articles are referring to the 3 zeros, a redenomination, and in any redenomination the monetary unit rises from one value to another.
Floating the currency, although a possibility, is a tremendous gamble for an emerging economy. History has shown there is as much chance of it going down as up, Egypt being a classic example.
IQD CALLS Chat Monday Evening 10-14-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Monday Evening 10-14-19
Baxter Kurdish leader and former Iraqi Finance Minister Hoshyar Zebari wrote in a tweet that the government won't be able to fulfill its promises to the demonstrators. "Iraqi anti-government protests are continuing in different districts of Baghdad and the south," he said.
"The pledges given by Iraq's three presidencies [Abdul Mahdi, President Barham Salih and parliament Speaker Mohammed al-Halbusi] to meet and quiet demonstrators are unworkable."
Zebari said the pledges would increase Iraq's 2020 budget deficit to more than $30 billion.
Baxter MORE RIOTS COMING FOR SURE
Dave at least they are after the crooks this time
Clay yep
Dave no more partisan bs
Dave rich against the poor
Clay as here
Baxter Trump and Treas Sec are meeting right now to discuss sanctions on Turkey
Dave Those PKK ....?
Clay they already caused havoc
IQD CALLS Chat Monday Evening 10-14-19
Baxter Kurdish leader and former Iraqi Finance Minister Hoshyar Zebari wrote in a tweet that the government won't be able to fulfill its promises to the demonstrators. "Iraqi anti-government protests are continuing in different districts of Baghdad and the south," he said.
"The pledges given by Iraq's three presidencies [Abdul Mahdi, President Barham Salih and parliament Speaker Mohammed al-Halbusi] to meet and quiet demonstrators are unworkable."
Zebari said the pledges would increase Iraq's 2020 budget deficit to more than $30 billion.
Baxter MORE RIOTS COMING FOR SURE
Dave at least they are after the crooks this time
Clay yep
Dave no more partisan bs
Dave rich against the poor
Clay as here
Baxter Trump and Treas Sec are meeting right now to discuss sanctions on Turkey
Dave Those PKK ....?
Clay they already caused havoc
Dave terrorists to the Turks?
Clay Dave were American allies now going to Russia and ISIS is getting freed again
Dave yepp
Baxter then they will go into Iraq...and there goes my dimes
Dave how many US troops left......It was not many?
Dave 50 left yesterday
Clay Baxter yep unfortunately
Clay Dave 1000 mI I think they all left
Clay thats u the Turks are slaughtering them
Baxter there was only 50 troops there..
Clay our allies... the kurds... now hate us
Clay Baxter I thought 1000
Baxter nope... 50
Clay so whats the problem then
Baxter so says fox news
Dave PUK and PKK did not get along?
Baxter we should have never gotten into Iraq in 03.... six trillion dollars..and thousands of lives later... look at the result..
Clay nothing
Baxter If I could just get a dime out of this... i would be ecstatic...
Dave me three
Baxter I would squeal the tires to the bank
Dave just only wonder why iraq has not gone article 8 already....and slowly raised it rate years ago if they were planning a lop?
Dave Russia Turkey Belarus Kuwait did that?
Doug_W Silver:$17.77
Zig I wonder if Dan (PTR) still mentions Dr. Todd....or that Abraham?.....I used to like listening to old Abe...an attorney?........lol
Baxter oh... constantly... every call
Baxter PTR SAYS that Dr Todd helped develop the Marshal Plan....really? ..On April 3, 1948, President Truman signed the Economic Recovery Act of 1948. It became known as the Marshall Plan, named for Secretary of State George Marshall, who in 1947 proposed that the United States provide economic assistance to restore the economic infrastructure of postwar Europe.
Baxter if he would have been just 20 years old.. that would put his birth date before 1928... which would make him at least 91 years old today.... and... he is still working with the government in a top notch position... LOL
Zig Baxter : Wanna bet that Dan will become a millionaire from that website.....
Baxter probably already is at 40 grand a month coming in
Zig Baxter : That may not be true....if you are basing that on the number of members you can't be sure how many of those are former and/or inactive peeps who are still listed.....IMO
Baxter well.. I sneak in there once in a while.... and it sometimes shows there are about 1500 people on the call
Zig Wow
Baxter yep..they say they have 2000 members....which is probably true
Zig Hmmmmm......well whatever the number, Dan is making a small fortune.....
Baxter I do believe they have at least 1500 members.. and 20 bucks a month a piece
Kaperoni Dave Article VIII is a one way street sort of speak.
Kaperoni Once you accept it, you can never go back to XIV.
Kaperoni So to simplify, they have to be very careful that they know what they're doing because once you accept the responsibility you have to be able to fulfill it
Kaperoni And the IMF makes sure they understand how to manage monetary policy, and met the obligations or requirements of acceptance into Article VIII before they grant them acceptance cuz they don't want to see them fail it would be a mess.
Dave iraq exchange rate been stable for how long now....?
Kaperoni Dave Since March 2018.
Dave no you are anti CBI......
Zig Kaperoni : Hi
Kaperoni Dave Not true. But if you're going to make the CBI the source of your information then you have to accept all of the information not just one or two articles. You can't pick and choose it's either All or Nothing so I choose to accept everything from everywhere
Dave lolololololollo
Dave 1-2 articles every few months ........we got 10 years
Dave Young_SC Ask Kap wheel barrows or wallets ...he refuses to answer me
Dave Ask Kap where CBI stated float
Kaperoni Dave for some reason you have animosity towards me I've never stated and I want people to listen to me my soul purpose is to find factual documentation and present it you can believe what you want either those facts or your own story I don't care if you follow me or not it's all up to you so I don't understand your negativity
Dave you refuse to listen to us.....
Kaperoni Dave because you talk nonsense. Speak intellectually and give me a an argument or a view that has some words more than wheelbarrow in it and I might listen to you
Young_SC Kaperoni There is no animosity towards you. You refuse to listen to anyone else and continue to be arrogant
Dave Kaperoni tried that you do not understanded.....dumbed it down for you to better understand
Kaperoni Young_SC not true at all and I spoke to that topic last night I'm not arrogant I'm just intelligent and if you want to come to me with an intelligent conversation and you bring facts to support your argument I will listen to you but if you come on and you just want to talk gibberish then I will not respect you and I will tell you that you're wrong
Dave Kaperoni i am dumb....show me when CBI stated free float?
Kaperoni Dave whatever that's why I don't listen to you
Kaperoni Dave it's not that cut and dry it's not a question of the CBI saying they're going to float or free float or anything like that it's what countries do. If you simply look at how countries evolve you will see they don't RV. They go from a fixed exchange rate to a float that is part of the transition because it's necessary to offset that inflationary pressure that's created from the economic and financial influx of investment.
Kaperoni If you really care about your dinar and you want to know how country is evolve such as Emerging Markets you would read how these countries do this Iraq though has a lot more resources than most they still have to follow the same rules
Dave UN imposed sanctions killed the dinar.....
Kaperoni And there's a lot of documentation on the transition of Emerging Markets
Dave Like what Russia and Belarus did ,,,,lol
mikexx Hi Kap, whatever happened to that Aussie guy Russell?
Kaperoni And if you did decide to read how Emerging Markets work then you would realize that there is no chance for an RV and then it even makes it more silly to think that you would get an RV when there's 42+ trillion in circulation outside the banking system
Dave READ what CBI had to say 10 yrs ago.....
Kaperoni mikexx I think he's still kind of going around Australia living in his van.
Kaperoni Dave I read everything Dave
Dave not that Balsamic Sammuellsom stufff which you added
Kaperoni Dave I didn't add anything it's what the IMF stated I didn't put any words in fact I directly quoted quite frequently. That is from the staff who represents the IMF who works with Iraq it's close to the facts as you can get
Zig Kaperoni Dave You guys will just never agree on much which is fine.....
Dave not his opinions.....like what CBI had to say,,,thats all
Kaperoni Zig that's because they sit in here rather than actually working and researching someday they're going to realize when they're no RV ever happened that how foolish they were and then they may open up two other alternatives but at this point they believe in some silly RV which all of us do it sometime when we first got into this some obviously take longer than others
Dave Kaperoni recollect wto talks.....reality rate vs sanctioned rates?
Kaperoni Dave first of all Dave anything from the CBI has to be translated and to believe that an online translator is accurate is your first mistake. You ask anybody who understands Arabic and they will tell you online translators for Arabic are nothing close to being accurate.
So everything from the CBI that is an Arabic has to be translated in unless you're hiring a professional translator I don't take anything that you provide to me as even close to being accurate.
One thing that DA did which was nice is had a professional translator for many years. Secondly the documents from the IMF are in English so they don't need to be translated and you can read them and see exactly what they say without confusion or misinterpretation
Zig Dave : Didn't they say no float "AT THIS TIME"......if I recall correctly.....
Dave Zig yrs of no float
Dave managed float ....yes
Kaperoni Like I said for years zig monetary policy is not a random act you can't just randomly go to a float or your economy and currency could collapse a float is a tool it's used to counter inflation and if you don't have the symptom (inflation) you don't apply the diagnosis. Believe me they will float when the time is right
Dave 1000 fils for that coke
Dave not inflationary.....
Spankie all currencies float daily
Dave Kap familiar what it costs to mint a note or coin
Dave CBI sets monetary policy not GOVT
Dave Young_SC wow kap said i was right....now Govt sets monetary policy not CBI
Mikexx I was one of the first people in the UK, if not the first to own dinars
mikexx There were no chat rooms when i first started just IIF and Truck and Barter website
biff mikexx Thats a lot of paper to be holding
Zig mikexx : I once saw a chat room archive that was discussing the Dinar in 2006.......
mikexx biff Yes, took me many years to get all that
biff What chat room?
mikexx Zig I know Truck and barter was the first, it was a US military site
Biff Investors Iraq Forum
Zig biff : Don't remember.....I think I googled Dinar chat.....something like that......
mikexx The first dinar chat room ever was a site called something like WC, i was a member and so was milnbabe
biff It was taken down last month
mikexx and Dr Cashflow was the first guru before the word guru was ever used
biff I was on the forum for 10 years
mikexx I really started to get burned out when in July i got this reply from a Kurdish media station - The dinar typically only has domestic appeal. Dollars are also commonly used in Iraq, especially for significant purchases. The dinar hovers around 1,200 IQD to 1 USD. It is unlikely to significantly strengthen in either the short or long term. Currency stability is one of the major monetary goals of the Iraqi government.
mikexx It's possible, but unlikely. The dinar has historically been quite stable, hovering between 1100 and 1200 for the last ten years at least. This helps with budget predictability, since Iraq is oil dependent, which is dollar denominated - They went on to say
mikexx If you're interested in investing in Iraq, the UK government has many investment schemes and is quite supportive of investment as are a number of civil society groups.
mikexx Yes, Sulaimani in the Kurdistan Region. We are a local TV channel and media group
Clay whats he mean
mikexx I made out i wanted to open up a business in Iraq and asked them if they thought the currency would go up in value
Clay good idea
Baxter PRES TRUMP is sending 1000 troops to help the Kurds... breaking news...
Baxter Sanctions against Turkey have been Implemented.....
Baxter thats my guru news for the day
Baxter if you want anymore... it will cost you a DIME
Baxter Maybe that call to bring the troops back..was to see what Turkey would do?
Baxter now he knows
Clay yep let him give alot of pain to Turkey
Baxter oh..he will.... big sanctions today
Clay heard that
Clay glad about the troops though
Baxter yep
IQD CALLS Chat Early Monday 10-14-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Early Monday 10-14-19
Chattels Iraq protests: 9 former officials to face corruption charges
11-10-2019 https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/11102019
chattels Without naming them, the PM said the nine officials include two former ministers and their undersecretaries in the Ministries of Minerals and Industry, Transportation, Higher Education, and Health.
chattels Since taking power in October 2018, Abdul-Mahdi has said his government’s priority is to clamp down on corruption. Critics say he has moved too slowly, however. Now the PM in under mounting pressure to deliver results – and not just a few token scalps.
chattels " ................ not just a few token scalps."
Baxter ONLY 9.... theres more than that
Baxter Probably more like 9 honest ones.. the rest are crooked
Baxter Doug... the banks are closed today.... Columbus day
chattels Baghdad / Nina / Foreign currency markets in Baghdad, on Monday, stability in the exchange rate of the US dollar against the Iraqi dinar.
The market price in Baghdad today is 1204 dinars per dollar, or 120 thousand and 400 dinars for one hundred dollars.
The prices of buying and selling dollars in banking companies, as follows:
The sale price per dollar 1207.5 dinars, or 120 thousand and 750 dinars for one hundred dollars.
The purchase price of the dollar is 1197.5 dinars, or 119 thousand and 750 dinars for one hundred dollars https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=792272
chattels " ......... 1204 dinars per dollar, or 120 thousand and 400 dinars for one hundred dollars."
IQD CALLS Chat Early Monday 10-14-19
Chattels Iraq protests: 9 former officials to face corruption charges
11-10-2019 https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/11102019
chattels Without naming them, the PM said the nine officials include two former ministers and their undersecretaries in the Ministries of Minerals and Industry, Transportation, Higher Education, and Health.
chattels Since taking power in October 2018, Abdul-Mahdi has said his government’s priority is to clamp down on corruption. Critics say he has moved too slowly, however. Now the PM in under mounting pressure to deliver results – and not just a few token scalps.
chattels " ................ not just a few token scalps."
Baxter ONLY 9.... theres more than that
Baxter Probably more like 9 honest ones.. the rest are crooked
Baxter Doug... the banks are closed today.... Columbus day
chattels Baghdad / Nina / Foreign currency markets in Baghdad, on Monday, stability in the exchange rate of the US dollar against the Iraqi dinar.
The market price in Baghdad today is 1204 dinars per dollar, or 120 thousand and 400 dinars for one hundred dollars.
The prices of buying and selling dollars in banking companies, as follows:
The sale price per dollar 1207.5 dinars, or 120 thousand and 750 dinars for one hundred dollars.
The purchase price of the dollar is 1197.5 dinars, or 119 thousand and 750 dinars for one hundred dollars https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=792272
chattels " ......... 1204 dinars per dollar, or 120 thousand and 400 dinars for one hundred dollars."
chattels BAGHDAD / NINA / The number of unemployed who applied for emergency grant from the Ministry of Labor and Social Affairs during the week, more than one million and 344 thousand citizens.
https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=792275
Baxter thats putting the people to work.... alright....
chattels The two biggest political blocs formed in Iraq after the 2018 parliamentary elections are pressuring Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi to not resign, despite the protests that have gripped Iraq since the beginning of October.
Abdul Mahdi became prime minister after a consensus was reached between the Fatah Alliance, headed by Hadi al-Amiri, and the Sairoon Alliance, headed by Muqtada al-Sadr. Both alliances are linked to Iran, yet, since the Sairoon Alliance appears to take decisions independently from Iran, the latter's ability to pressure the bloc into working for its agenda in Iraq is limited.
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-adel-abdul-mahdi.html#ixzz62KdpA3Fs
chattels Political analysts believe that Sadr’s and Amiri’s alliances are keeping Mahdi in power for pragmatic reasons, even though Sadr asked Abdul Mahdi's government to resign in an official statement. Yet Sadr's statement contradicted the message his negotiators brought to Abdul Mahdi.
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-protests-adel-abdul-mahdi.html#ixzz62KeDKr3Y
chattels " Sadr asked Abdul Mahdi's government to resign in an official statement."
chattels There is no integrity amongst the political elite in Iraq.
chattels Kurdish leaders support Iraq's embattled prime minister Omar Sattar October 13, 2019
chattels Well, kinda, maybe. Geeesh !
chattels Kurdish leader and former Iraqi Finance Minister Hoshyar Zebari wrote in a tweet that the government won't be able to fulfill its promises to the demonstrators. "Iraqi anti-government protests are continuing in different districts of Baghdad and the south," he said.
"The pledges given by Iraq's three presidencies [Abdul Mahdi, President Barham Salih and parliament Speaker Mohammed al-Halbusi] to meet and quiet demonstrators are unworkable."
Zebari said the pledges would increase Iraq's 2020 budget deficit to more than $30 billion.
"Realism is needed," he added.
chattels There is a novel concept for Iraq. Realism vs. rhetoric.
chattels " ...... the Kurdish position in favor of Abdul Mahdi's government can't be considered final, and may turn into a position in favor of demonstrations, calling for early parliamentary elections in case the negotiations between the two sides fail"
Zig , Dinar Recaps copies this chat daily.....you can go back much further there though they edit out some.......
Baxter Chattels.... I believe its time to move on to something more promising... this aint cutting it...
chattels Baxter Difficult to argue reasonably against such a conclusion. I am just obstinate I suppose.
Baxter I think we all must be.... we are still here
chattels I will stay the course.
Baxter might as well...
chattels Does not mean that one has to accept " pie in the sky " statements from others regarding an imminent and favorable outcome.
Baxter well.. we can agree its not imminent...... favorable is another story
chattels We could call it " jaded optimism ".
Baxter there you go...
chattels A bit of an oxymoron.
Clay Good Morning all So Trump lost us a very important ally in the ME
Baxter MR Clay... Good Morning who is that
Clay the Kurds Kurds now getting help from Syria and Russia
Baxter we have helped too many for too long
Baxter it is never ending clay
Clay but we r letting them get creamed by the Turks
Clay no its not
Baxter I think he will embargo turkey
Baxter sanctions seem to hurt more than troops
Clay too little too late
Baxter well.. thats true
Clay we are letting the Russians get more influence in the region
Baxter yes.. thats true
Clay not a smart move
Baxter well.... it probably wasnt...
Baxter I think you will see sanctions announced this week
chattels spankie It is not looking like the dinar will be a viable retirement plan.
spankie u cannot tell at this point- but it does not look good- u would think it would have happened
spankie I would say toooo much corruption to add value to the corrupt pockets
spankie obvious Maliki needs to be incarcerated-- until that happens—
Andrewetoldthem What happen After Iraq complete their government ?What come next ?
1. I would like to say 1st I hope you guys take notes and also mark the words of this gurus and call them out on their * when they * you
For example Dinar investor real name Jeff for 5 months he kept telling his you tube followers after the completion of the Iraqi government we will see the rate change it's call revaluation by the way
and he also quoted the 2020 budget it's post rate change money and they need a reinstatement for the 2020 budget because it's reconstruction money etc......
Now all of a sudden because he was wrong about when the education ministry was suppose to be sworn in he's going around repeating the same words of when the revaluation suppose to happen -- he claims it's march 2020 and the completion of the government have nothing to do with it or the reform --
And also he's using my words saying the revaluation suppose to happen before Donald trump become re elected because that's going to boost his re election true but when i quoted that it's because i thought the vote for the re election would of start in Nov 3 ,2019 going into 2020 but the voting start Nov 3 , 2020 going into 2021 re election and also i knew the dems would of use that to try and make him fail
Andrewetoldthem but instead of him failing they the 1s failing Bernie sanders heart attack -- Joe Biden scandals -- Elisabeth warren she's proving like shes a liar -- and the rest by the end of this month -- they all going to give up their campaign run because they cant run enough lol -- so the only thing they was able to do is scream out impeach impeach but they cant get it done - they cant get the vote - they all jokes
Now the proxy position 1 do he know what it means ? And 2 when they do talk about that position they talking about Abdul Mahdi and his ministers because in 2018 when Al Sadr won the election he put Mahdi in his position for 2 reasons
1. They taught he was going to fail just like they taught POTUS would of fail and
2. because Al Sadr it's a religious man politic that's to much headache for him but the fact Mahdi did the opposite of that the only thing those Abadi bloc Maliki bloc Iran bloc could of do it's scream out Resign Resign like the dems doesn't it sounds familiar with POTUS!!!
Why you think so ?but look it back fire on them so instead of pushing for resignation they got acceleration and completion of his cabinet and they the 1's to be resign them corrupted lying * people and also they got providing and succeeding the fruition of the demand for the demonstration
# SMOOTH OPERATOR # WE WINNING # THEIR TIME IS UP -- ITS OUR TIME NOW !!!!!
Andrewetoldthem NOW 3rd in 2003 After the war in Iraq the government came out and ask for peace and mercy upon them for them to have a chance of reinstated their country and government and thats when they came out with their new currency the 25k 50k 1OK 1K AND the 250 to replace the Saddam Hussein currency -- George W bush want it to the same thing has his father with the Kuwait dinar by revaluing the Iraqi dinar but didn't understand how it works –
instead he end up going to war with Iraq while their currency was still in circulation and then Obama came and do the same thing and that's when ISIS take over -- that's why they regret everything and they were to impatient and that's why theirs a documentary about it call the Iraq: A veritable imposture and it came out right after Donald trump became president because they taught they would of been able to expose his plan
but the POTUS its un predictable 16 years later the current government want to take back those higher notes thats in circulation because it would damage their system -- by them to be able to do that they need a reform and A revaluation thats why they call monetary policy reform -- and thats why they 2 currency will co exist together the 1, the 5 , 20, 50 and 100 with the damage currency right now
Andrewetoldthem that damage currency its hyperinflation denomination currency with a time limit after the revaluation if its not currency swap withing the time frame after the revaluation it will be worth nothing right now its worth a time bomb like POTUS TWEETED --
don't listen to those liars that have no clue what they talking about because its our time now i just want it to address some stuff -- no hard feeling Jeff we all on the same side –
We all foreign investors and when this is all over we all going to the top while the rest will still remain at the same spot the liars and the haters might be even worse for them
now the million $$$$ question what come next what happen after the completion of the government produce ? what happen after when PM gets his reshuffle ?
the answer to do that is -- are we rich yet -- yes because reform restore revalued
Andrewetoldthem And good morning no problem and i zig i make sense 2 because its the truth have you being seeing lately
Zig Andrewetoldthem : Who knows.....I hope you are right.....we'll see eventually.......
Andrewetoldthem they already got education ministry sworn and the health that was the hardest its coming fast and hot redtober
Andrewetoldthem Stock Exchange: Tomorrow launched trading on the shares of four banks
Andrewetoldthem bye got to go love you guys pretty soon this group chat will be so quiet i know when your get rich your will be to busy to be on here will leave it for the haters etc....
Andrewetoldthem reform revaluation ND RESTORE
Andrewetoldthem Zig no problem buddy i cant wait to see you have that freedom we desire for sure
Andrewetoldthem Iraqi Stock Exchange «Economy News»
Market Economy News – Baghdad The stock exchange said on Monday that Tuesday’s session will witness the launch of trading on the shares of four banks.
The bourse said in a statement seen by Al-Eqtisadiah that Commercial Bank will launch trading on the shares of the bank as of Tuesday 15/10/2019, and approved the final accounts for 2018, and decided to distribute dividends by 3.8% of the bank’s capital for the year. Himself.
Andrewetoldthem we deserve it
Andrewetoldthem http://www.isx-iq.net/isxportal/portal/brokerListContainer.html
Clay we deserve it?
Andrewetoldthem Clay us the foreign investor especially the 1s like you clay your waited 10years and plus thats a hella off patient you deserve it
Andrewetoldthem the 1s that want to retired etc.....
Andrewetoldthem now its all over this it for jeff dinar investor he want it to know the step it takes before the revaluation well there it goes @Jeff @Dinar investor
Andrewetoldthem https://mepc.org/journal/monetaryexchange-rate-strategy-reconstruction-iraq
Clay sure cant wait anymore
Zig Andrewetoldthem : Too bad Jeff (Dinar Investor) does not come here any longer.....you two could have an interesting conversation as you seem to have issues with him.....lol.....
Andrewetoldthem Clay yah got to go have fun learning the strategy and the system knowledge is power at least like that @sparky narcisse and his group of haters could act like they smater then us lool love you guys bye reform restore revalued its coming fast hot and redtober them start trading live with 4 banks its them telling us in a way its over thats why i purposely drop that link on purpose
Zig Andrewetoldthem : LOL.....Sparky is okay.....just likes to "mess" with you a bit.....
Andrewetoldthem Zig lol dont worry he sees it and i also post it on his youtube videos but i have no problem with him we all on the same side we all foreign investor and pro success
Clay Amen to that
Andrewetoldthem well got to go bye now mahdi going to win big time him albussi POTUS donald j trump and the great leaders now they smooth operating Zig yah if you say so but hes not 1 of us
Andrewetoldthem got to go we going to the top we going to the top of the mountain its over i cant wait for us to be screaming we rich we made it reform restore revalued i knew the steps thats why i kept quiet but we all do now
Zig Andrewetoldthem : I think you are wrong about Sparky.......
Andrewetoldthem bye
Zig ;peace
Zig You keep writing "Bye" but have returned for several encores.....LOL
Andrewetoldthem Zig he call of us idiots before remember and soon he came here he want it your position has a mod even me i didnt do that but if you say so he still not 1 of us when we will be rich and at the bank making our currency swap he still going to be behind his computer talking trash
Andrewetoldthem now its bye
IQD CALLS Chat Sunday Night 10-13-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Sunday Night 10-13-19
Wilder This is an old article. Is the iqd still printed in the U. S. U.S. prints Iraqi dinar despite its 'face' value. https://www.baltimoresun.com/bal-te.currency10jul10-story.html
Kaperoni The dinar it's printed in Europe by De La Rue
Kaperoni Baxter funny that you say that because I would expect that that could have been done by the gurus or con men for the last several years and nobody would ever know since it hasn't gone up in value
Baxter Kaperoni so true
Kaperoni Not to change the subject, but just think there could be people selling bogus dinar for years and there's no way to catch or find them if they just quit and leave. Selling fake currency for real dollars. What a great scam
Zig Kaperoni : Hmmmmm.....well I used that black light to see that thingy.....lol
Kaperoni Good plan zig
IQD CALLS Chat Sunday Night 10-13-19
Wilder This is an old article. Is the iqd still printed in the U. S. U.S. prints Iraqi dinar despite its 'face' value. https://www.baltimoresun.com/bal-te.currency10jul10-story.html
Kaperoni The dinar it's printed in Europe by De La Rue
Kaperoni Baxter funny that you say that because I would expect that that could have been done by the gurus or con men for the last several years and nobody would ever know since it hasn't gone up in value
Baxter Kaperoni so true
Kaperoni Not to change the subject, but just think there could be people selling bogus dinar for years and there's no way to catch or find them if they just quit and leave. Selling fake currency for real dollars. What a great scam
Zig Kaperoni : Hmmmmm.....well I used that black light to see that thingy.....lol
Kaperoni Good plan zig
Kaperoni Considering how many senior citizens bought into this over the years there is a real window to get scammed
Zig Can you imagine bringing your Dinar in to exchange and finding out it was counterfeit......
Baxter No.. I cant
Baxter dont want to think about it
Kaperoni I'm sure some will especially if they're die-hard dinar fans and they spent years following this only to get screwed later
Baxter well.. I must admit.. I have never checked mine....
Wilder You have me wondering Kaperoni
Kaperoni Wilder I don't believe in a LOP Wilder I'm just saying that the recent articles from Parliament where they're talking about removing the zeros is a LOP. If you look at other countries for example Iran they just passed a law in their Parliament to remove zeros. That would be the only reason for Parliament to be involved in monetary policy
Kaperoni And I don't think the CBI has any intent to let Parliament get involved in monetary policy
Zig Baxter : Wow....get a black light or take it to your gas station and borrow one.....they use them to check for oil leaks......
Zig Also, some banks have them....
Kaperoni You can buy those blue light hunting lights at Walmart do the same thing for deer hunters they track blood
John I understand that the IQD is difficult to counterfeit?
Kaperoni I can't really prove this other than the fact that I have some friends that are high level in the banking industry. But I find it comical let the guru's keep talking about going to the bank to cash out.
Because people that I know that are in the banks tell me banks are conservative in nature and will probably be last to bringing the dinar into their portfolio of exchangeable currencies because of the risk.
Kaperoni So I think if the dinar is ever cashed out it'll be cashed out through the same dealers that's sold it or brokerage firms that choose to participate
Zig Kaperoni : If banks see a chance to profit greatly with the spreads IMO they will jump in.....maybe not at the very beginning but soon after............
Kaperoni Zig, all you need to do is look at other emerging markets and whether or not Banks deal in them. Most do not because of the risk. But I would assume you're right if the spread is enough they might but then again if the spread is huge who's going to cash out?
Zig Me....LOL
Kaperoni And to be honest that's partially why I believe that they will float the currency. Because then brokerage firms can get involved and you can deposit your dinar in dinar denominated accounts and watch it grow over time. Making transactions as needed
Wilder I kbow of several 5th 3rd employees that invested at the branch i bank at. We don't ever discuss it tho. Doesn't mean anything tho.
Wilder I'll blame them if i lose my money
Kaperoni I think it's all ridiculous to even talk about it until the dinar is internationally accepted. Only then well we really know what is available as options to exchange it. And any of the guru nonsense about thing on a list, cashing out of the bank etc is all Bs
Kaperoni Being on a list...
Zig Kaperoni : Groups?......remember them??......wonder how many are in those?
Kaperoni How about the people that bought Trusts? How ridiculous is that not really knowing what's going to happen with the dinar? You can get a trust anytime why buy it years in advance and if it dinar never does anything you just wasted money
Zig This venture has attracted opportunists taking advantage of many people......
Kaperoni They were charging $1000 or more for a trust
Kaperoni Well i got to go. Have a good day.
Zig Bye....Take it easy.....GO RV!!.....er....I mean FLOAT.....lol....
Whitelions hummm if you can only cash in where you bought your dinar what are all the people going to if the place you got no longer exists and if the banks arn't going to cash out your dinar how are the countrys of the world going to deal with dinar on a working baises ?Kap is speaking with out thinking or reasurching again.
Doug_W did U look at that?
Whitelions Can't
Baxter I believe that any bank that exchanges foreign currency... IF they want to... will cash this out just like any other recognized international currency.. not all banks exhange foreign currency at all
biff Errnestee?
Whitelions Baxter your right or they would be in volition of international banking laws
Baxter yep..
Baxter once its international... its like any other foreign currency to exchange
Baxter getting it international... is the BIG PROBLEM
Whitelions Baxter I know the biggest problem is 99 % of the people that got into this did it on the word or a quick payout and here we are still here but it will happen and fairly quick now .
Baxter I pray every day
Whitelions Baxter there is no going back now to much has and is being done but again to meny people have pumped this now now that it very hard for people to just watch it unfold at the pace it need to take to get it done right .
Baxter I know they have....
Baxter https://operationdisclosure1.blogspot.com/2019/10/warnings-from-7-presidents-of-united.html scroll this down a little and read it....thank you Mr. Trump
Kaperoni Whitelions has a tendency to make up things and say that I said it. At no time in any of my messages did I ever say that you could only cash in at the place that you bought your currency.
That's the problem people take Liberty at what you say and make it sound like you said it when you didn't and it's not right. If she's going to quote me she should quote me accurately
Kaperoni I recommend she goes back and reread these posts to find out what we are really talking about
Kaperoni Reading a document here or there or reading an article a week does not put you in the same category as someone who studied at 12 to 14 hours a day for the past 10 years
Zig Kaperoni : How do you know that some people haven't done as much research, etc. as you have??
Kaperoni You could call it a beyond an obsession but I have a lot of dinar and I'm not going to invest in something that I don't know every possible thing about
Kaperoni Zig how does a professor at a college talk to a student and know if they have done their homework or not?
Kaperoni It's also very frustrating when people want to have a discussion but don't want to contribute. They just want to state things that they believe and want me to prove to them one way or another some fact when it's not my responsibility to do so. If you have a point of view come to the discussion with the facts that you have to support such a point of view
Young_SC I post a few articles straight from the finance minister of Iraq stating the opposite of your opinions and you shut it down
foxmulder Kaperoni i also have a lot of dinar !! but i don't claim to have the infinite knowledge and insight you have. because one reads makes not one bit of difference of their opinion
Kaperoni Young_SC you may have posted an article or two but if I shut it down it's because maybe you misunderstood what the article was saying or there's other facts to support the opposite of what you're saying that happens all the time with people especially when it comes to articles relating to some mythical RV
Young_SC Kaperoni no kap misunderstood anything it states in plain english what they want to do
Young_SC READ IT KAP
Young_SC READ IT
Kaperoni You see it's easy to read one article and say this article is implying it's going to RV but then you look at the broader picture and you can't justify what needs to occur for such an event to happen that's why I could shut down.
For example an overnight RV could never occur for two major reasons why there's too much dinar in circulation that would have to be reduced significantly and some kind of mythical overnight RV contradicts the principles of the CBI itself and how it makes money
Kaperoni It also contradicts with the principles of the CBI in its tools to combat inflationary pressure. So again for example there could never be a significant RV because he would take me like taking all of the tools away from the CBI that it needs in order to manage the economy and keep the currency stable
Kaperoni Central banks are very complicated and they have a tremendous amount of tools at their possession an RV is like just throwing it all out the window
Kaperoni And lastly do you have any idea of the chaos that would cause and Iraq if all the sudden significantly the currency went up overnight? That is as important as the money supply you just would find out it can't happen
Foxmulder the discussion of RV and float is a joke ! currencies fluctuate period !
Kaperoni LOL
Kaperoni Articles and documents over the years and certainly there are documents that talk about raising the value but I don't think I've ever seen one where they said it would happen overnight. The only people who are talking about something happen overnight are the gurus
Kaperoni I do hope they raise the value I think that's in the best interest of Iraq but logically it's not possible to happen overnight.
foxmulder when they decide to make a change in their policy we will see , the issue is international correct ... traded on the Forex just as any other currency and commodity
Kaperoni foxmulder in some capacity I'm sure that is their intent I don't know if it can go on Forex initially but interbanking is certainly the possibility, the CBI has stated that themselves that they are working towards that but we'll have to wait and see when they accept Article VIII what happens
Foxmulder Kaperoni correct until that time the bickering and head butting is just nuts !
Kaperoni Well I'm going to go I just wanted to correct white lions. I was not bickering or head-butting at all tonight I found this conversation very interesting. Good night
foxmulder Kaperoni as you know there is so many intangables we do not know !
foxmulder Kaperoni for sure ! every one here is only looking for the truth and an end
Wilder Truth. What is the truth in this?
foxmulder Wilder the final result
Wilder Another old article.
An Interview with John Jagerson (1/25/12) Sam: Would you be willing to debate Kaperoni, Frank Villa, Medic, Breitling … etc. on this?
John: Yes, in person or in writing. Anytime. He mentions Adam Montana in this article also. https://iraqcurrencywatch.com/an-interview-with-john-jagerson-12512/
WPY Golly, gee, I guess Kaperoni has LOST his " following " elsewhere, ergo, he's hitting blogs like this one looking for worshipers. Hmmm . . . Still claiming he KNOWS what a country / government he has never seen or experienced HAS to do. Hmmm . . .
WPY Iraq doesn't know what it will do in the next ten minutes, it's unlikely that Kap knows.
Wilder Kaperoni seems like an alright guy to me. That link I posted was not because of the names mentioned but Kaperoni and this John Jagerson have similar thoughts on this adventure right or wrong. I can't argue it either way.
IQD CALLS Chat Early Sunday 10-13-19
.IQD CALLS Chat Early Sunday 10-13-19
JoeSchmoe sometimes i wonder, after reading xyz a lot, does she really own dinar?
Baxter i have wondered that myself
JoeSchmoe does zig?
Baxter i think so says he does
JoeSchmoe okay
spankie u would think anyone here is holding- waiting
Baxter yes i would think so
JoeSchmoe which then brings us to the other questions...sandy most likely does NOT have dinar. So WHY is he even here?
spankie I think Baxta got the most-
Baxter no..not i
JoeSchmoe spankie if willing to setting for a dime....I think so lol
IQD CALLS Chat Early Sunday 10-13-19
JoeSchmoe sometimes i wonder, after reading xyz a lot, does she really own dinar?
Baxter i have wondered that myself
JoeSchmoe does zig?
Baxter i think so says he does
JoeSchmoe okay
spankie u would think anyone here is holding- waiting
Baxter yes i would think so
JoeSchmoe which then brings us to the other questions...sandy most likely does NOT have dinar. So WHY is he even here?
spankie I think Baxta got the most-
Baxter no..not i
JoeSchmoe spankie if willing to setting for a dime....I think so lol
JoeSchmoe Baxter you gots to have at least 50 mil iqd if you're willing to settle for a dime. 10 mil will get you $1mil....unless that's all you want?
Baxter no... nothing like that.. i wish
JoeSchmoe I remember that guy said he was willing to donate 50 mil iqd if something happened, forgot what he said, and this was like 9 years ago
spankie whale- first tier - lol
JoeSchmoe there ya go .lol
Young_SC Does anybody pay attention to SandyF besides Chattels? Lol
Baxter I sure dont
JoeSchmoe Young_SC i think chattels just pays attention to what everyone says. Not that he believes them i think chattels allows for all scenarios to take place
JoeSchmoe Young_SC I have been in this thing with chattels since bgg first opened his site many many years ago. He has been through that ringer too
JoeSchmoe Young_SC and since chattels is a lawyer, you can see that mentality in his way of thinking too
Zig (Reading above as my ears were burning)......I have no Dinar....Zilch....Nada....Nil....Zero....Bupkis....I just love hanging out in Dinar chat rooms bothering people.... :na;
Young_SC Zig I find that people get very emotional about the dinar
Zig Young_SC : Ya think??...
Zig The most important thing to do in any investment: Leave your emotions out of it/your decisions .....every savvy and successful investor will tell you that......
Larrykn Good Morning everyone Iraq’s President, UN Secretary General discuss latest development https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/44264/Iraq-s-President-UN-Secretary-General-discuss-latest-development
larrykn Support: Achieving the demands of the demonstrators needs real will and there must be change in some "dead" ministries
Liberation: 2019/10/13 16:09 • 92 times Baghdad-In Al-Hikma MP Hassan Fassad, on Sunday, stressed the need for a ministerial change in some ministries, which he described as "dead", warning of larger demonstrations in the absence of real steps to meet the demands of demonstrators.
"The request of the prime minister to grant him additional powers is surprising, because he has specific and sufficient powers and he has to use them to achieve these demands," he said in a press statement. "What he can achieve, and then he demands additional powers, and parliament is ready to offer anything that contributes to meeting the demands."
"Achieving the demands needs real will and we believe that this will will not be achieved unless there is a ministerial change in some of the dead ministries in our view," he said, adding that "the mass demands are not new, and there were previous demonstrations carrying the same demands, as we demanded.
"We have been wise for a long time with the same demands and we have put the dots on the letters, but we have not found any ears to meet those demands."
"Unfortunately, after more than 200 victims and thousands of injured people, the government today is working to meet the demands, and we regret that the price of rights is the blood of innocent people who have the right to demonstrate and claim their rights," he said.
"The provocation was the reason for the opposite reaction, and we believe that the demonstrations that took place will not be the end, but there will be more than them if there are no real steps to meet the demands and not to settle them as they happened in the past."
"The government should have taken a step ahead of the situation and achieved the demands within its government program rather than responding to mass demonstrations," he said. http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=
larrykn Al-Araji calls for referring investigations into the killings that occurred during the demonstrations exclusively to the judiciary
Liberation: 2019/10/13 16:03 • 94 times Baghdad-In Former Deputy Prime Minister Bahaa al-Araji on Sunday called for investigations into the killings that took place during the demonstrations to the judiciary exclusively.
"If we want results that reveal the facts, investigations into the murders that took place during the demonstrations should be entrusted exclusively to the judiciary," al-Araji said in a tweet.
On Saturday (October 12, 2019), The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, Prime Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi, announced the formation of a high commission of inquiry to reach "objective and firm" conclusions regarding what happened in the demonstration grounds.
It is worth mentioning that the supreme religious authority demanded, on Friday, the "strength" of the government and the judiciary to conduct a credible investigation of everything that happened in the demonstration squares, and to reveal before the public the elements that ordered or started shooting at demonstrators or others, a two-week deadline for that.
http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=84035
larrykn Turkish Ambassador on Syria Operations: Our goal is to eliminate terrorism and we have an understanding with Iraq
Liberation: 2019/10/13 15:49 • 113 times Baghdad-In Turkey's ambassador to Iraq, Fatih Yildiz, said the objectives of his country's security operation in Shal, eastern Syria, "are to secure the Turkish border, eliminate all terrorist elements and rid Syrian citizens of the pressures of terrorist organizations."
"We have a common understanding with Iraq in the fight against terrorism," Turkish Ambassador Fateh Yildiz told a press conference in Baghdad.
"Terrorism continues to threaten Turkey from the eastern Euphrates, so we launched operation Euphrates Spring against two terrorist organizations [YPG and the Democratic Union Party] in Syria, which have carried out more than 120 terrorist operations in northeastern Syria and more than 100 against Turkish forces," he said.
"These two organizations have released dozens of terrorists from ISIS militants who are threatening the region and therefore Turkey does not accept the existence of a corridor for terrorists to Arkia and other areas," he said.
"Our proposals for security zones in Syria have not been answered by the Americans," he said.
ISIS militants "Turkey has confronted ISIS in Syria and therefore it is illogical to release ISIS militants," Yildiz said, adding that "in the eastern Euphrates there are a lot of ISIS militants from many foreign countries, and the best solution is to send them back to their countries of origin."
"We are careful not to harm civilians and they do not target them or our allies, and after the elimination of terrorism in those areas, Syrian citizens will be returned to their areas of origin," he said. Syrians to their areas."
"460 terrorists have been eliminated in operation The Euphrates Spring so far, and the operation will continue until the terrorists are eliminated because they carried out terrorist attacks on Turkish territory," he said.
larrykn "We have been and continue to cooperate with Iraq in the fight against terrorist organizations and we want the Iraqis to understand this operation because they have suffered from the terrorist organization ISIS and we are waiting to stand with us," Yildiz said, adding that most countries refuse to hand over ISIS militants detainees in Syria and Turkey, and this is a problem. "Turkey has received from Iraq the families and children of ISIS after long discussions," he said.
"The military operations carried out by Turkish forces in northern Iraq against THE BCKa are within the UN Anti-Terrorism Charter because they are carrying out military operations against the Turks," he said.
http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=84033
larrykn have a good day all :)
Dave just hope this Turkish thing does not spill into Iraq
Baxter that will be next....always something
Zig Baxter : Seriously.....will we ever make money from this?.....in your opinion.....
Baxter im beginning to wonder... i USED to think so
Baxter hopes are fading
Sam I Am NEVER GONNA HAPPEN
Zig ;crying;
Baxter well I knew you would say that
Baxter country is too rich to always have a worthless currency
Zig Baxter : Go get him, Bax.....LOL
Sam I Am Baxter S. Korea is richer
Sam I Am Their currency is 1/10 of a penny
Baxter S Korea is not richer than Iraq...
Baxter I know their currency is the same value
Sam I Am Baxter They have the 15th largest economy in the world
Baxter they do not have the resources Iraq does
Sam I Am much higher standard of living
Sam I Am True, they don't have as much oil as Iraq ... they don't have as much as Venezuela either ... big whoop
Sam I Am It's a common misconception in dinarland that lots of oil means a high currency valuation it's about 2 things - money supply and foreign currency resserves ... the rest is just math
Zig Sam I Am : Why does Kuwait have such a highly valued currency?
Sam I Am Zig Because their currency hasn't been devoured by hyperinflation
Sam I Am much lower money supply
Sam I Am much more stable country
Sam I Am Iraq also had a currency valued at $3+, but they went through 2 wars and sanctions
Sam I Am If their history was that of Kuwait they might still be there ... but they put a madman in charge of their country
Sam I Am He drove the dinar into the ground
Zig @Francis Albert??.....any replies to Sam's views??.....etc.....weigh in!!
Zig Francis usually has something to say about stuff like that.....so stay tuned.....
Sam I Am okie dokie
Baxter WHEN the United States needs Money... heres what we do: Federal Reserve Watch: 'To Provide Ample Reserve Balances'
OCT. 13, 2019 Summary : Federal Reserve officials seem to feel that they have just experienced a "wake up" call from the banking system in the modest disturbance that occurred in mid-September.
The Fed reacted well to this disturbance, but now is taking actions to prevent any further "bumps" in the banking system over the next nine months or so.
The "wake up" call seems to have prompted a response on the part of the Fed to err on the side of being safe.rather than sorry.
Federal Reserve officials got a little “shock” in the banking week ending September 18, 2019.
The reserve deposits that the commercial banks hold at Federal Reserve banks, surprisingly dropped below $1.4 trillion.
This surprise caused Fed officials to go into “alert” mode and they responded with a substantial input of repurchase agreements, $75.0 billion to be exact, to "bump up" reserve levels and avoid any possible dislocation in the operations of the commercial banking system.
By the end of the next banking week ending September 25, the Fed oversaw an increase of reserve balances above $1.4 trillion. At the end of the next banking week reserve balances had returned to just below $1.5 trillion,
And, in the banking week, reserve balances ended the week at $1.528 trillion.
Now Fed officials have moved to “shore up” bank liquidity, indicating that the Fed would purchase around $60.0 billion of US Treasury bills every month until some time in the second quarter of 2020.
Baxter we just write up... re purchase agreements and add more money to the system..and its not there
Baxter 60 billion a month... how many zeroes is that.... 60,000,000,000 a month
Baxter and Iraq has a total of about 60 billion..... we write that much a month
Baxter thats why I dont believe the amount of dinars out there.. has anything to do with this.. NONE
Zig Baxter : You used to believe that.....recently.....right?
Baxter I used to a lot... not so much lately
Zig Hmmmmmm
Baxter not when you read articles like above
Baxter I do believe.... this oil credit Idea... may have some credibility
Zig Baxter : So you have left Camp Kaperoni.....lol
Baxter No... not really...
Baxter i JUST dont see a float from 1160
Sam I Am Gurus were talking about oil credits 9 years ago ... it's BS
Baxter im not so sure about that
Baxter especially when they wont be due for over ten years
Zig Sam I Am : Francis Albert recently brought up "Oil Credits" here again......
Sam I Am I've heard pretty much all of the guru theories and intel
Zig We all have...
Baxter if our govt... can write crazy money of 60 billion a month... it can surely handle oil credits..
Sam I Am and nothing ever panned out
Baxter 60 billion a month of paper money... which never exists
Baxter I would just like to know how much dinar is actually in the U. S............. I dont think there is that much
Zig Baxter : Do you believe all the rumors now and in the past that our treasury holds trillions of Dinar?
Baxter no
Baxter billions maybe... not trillions
Baxter I doubt even billions....
Baxter a billion is one heck of a lot of money
Sam I Am Zig That was another BS guru theory ... that the US Govt holds trillions of dinar that they're going to exchange post-RV and pay off the national debt
Sam I Am That's one reason the BH Group went to prison
Zig Baxter :Trillions of Dinar....not Dollars
Baxter No zig... i dont believe it.. maybe a few billion...
Baxter as far as normal you and me with dinar.. I doubt if there is more than a billion in the U S
Baxter maybe a couple billion at most
Zig Sam I Am : Did I ever tell you that I came close to investing in that so-called "Hedge Fund" offered by that guy Rudy and the BH Group??.....lol
Sam I Am Zig no
Sam I Am glad you didn't
Zig Yup....lol
Sam I Am Zig Zig Do you remember Chuckles?
Zig Sam I Am : No
Sam I Am He ran a site called Dinar Dater that I belonged to
Sam I Am His dad grew up with Brad and Charlie from the BH Group
Sam I Am Chuckles knew they were idiots
Zig lol
Zig Are they still in prison??
Sam I Am Unfortunately they talked his dad into buying dinar and his dad talked him into it
Sam I Am I don't think so ... Rudy died
Zig I know
Sam I Am The were sentenced 7 years ago so they're probably out now
Zig Used to listen to all of their calls.....very convincing.....sounded so sincere.....as do most con artists I suppose.....
Zig Baxter : Did you follow the BH Group??.....calls??
Sam I Am Zig I have to admit Rudy fooled me ... he was very convincing
Zig Oh yes....
Sam I Am He said he was in charge of the foreign currency division of Chase Bank .... DOJ said he worked there 2 days LOL
Zig LOL
Baxter zig..no i didn’t
Sam I Am The feds seem to focus more on the dealers than the gurus
Baxter they still havent sentenced sterling group
Sam I Am Zig Well if there's no money trail there they're probably safe
Sam I Am They all make bank on Kuwait, they all have contacts at the CBI and IMF
Wilder Baxter Although no regulator knows how many investors hold the dinar, Prof. Bunting estimates "that there are around 40 trillion Dinar in circulation and only about 5 trillion actually reside in Iraq so the rest in held by dinar speculators around the world.Jul 28, 2014
Sam I Am They all have boots on the ground
Baxter Wilder not that much in the US...... I dont believe it
Baxter not with normal people like us
Sam I Am Frank Bell told me that Sterling doesn't pay commissions to pumpers
Wilder https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwasik/2014/07/28/the-dinars-dismal-future-sell-now/
Sam I Am Technically that was true because they were paying a flat fee to TerryK
Baxter I seriously doubt that there are two million dinar holders in the U S
Wilder You would think that all dealers would have to report all sells of the dinar. All om my purchases were from local bank.
Baxter if there are 2 million......... and each holds ten million.. which I seriously doubt ...that would be what.... 200 million total
Zig Baxter : Your math is way off....lol
Baxter what is it i cant do zeroes
Zig I think it is in the trillions
Baxter two billion?
Baxter no.. its not well ..wait...maybe it is LOL
Zig Baxter : The average Dinar holder probably has less than a million.....lots of small investors.....
Baxter two million times 100 dinar each.. would be 200 million dinar
Baxter so a thousand each.. would be two billion dinar
Baxter correct?
Zig I bet the average is around 500,000 Dinar or less......
Baxter a thousand times a thousand is a million...i think
Zig Most people haven't put thousands of dollars into this IMO.....
Baxter looks to me if each person had a million.. it would be 200 billion.. if the zeroes are correct
Sam I Am Zig But there are a lot who bought millions of dinar, like me ... I had over 8 mil
Sam I Am So the average is probably between half a mil and 1 mil
Baxter I agree... I doubt most have more than a million
Wilder I know of several who purchased 10 million and some quite abit more. Some had given up and sold back.
Baxter lot of people have sold back....
Baxter or had to sell back
Wilder I know of several that majority of the congregation bought into this. Several in Cleveland Tennessee Church of God headquarters. Here locally many churches invested . Many invested after Jim Clement prophesied about the iqd.