Zig’s Place Chatroom News Sunday PM 10-17-21
Zig’s Place Chatroom News Sunday PM 10-17-21
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butterfly A delegation from the Quds Force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard is participating in the consultations to bring together the different blocs. However, the results still put both sides of the “Shiite duo” in front of a clear numerical shortage.
Abdul-Hussein Al-Hindawi: It is up to the commission to complete the appeals or re-election
In principle, the Sadr bloc, which has 73 seats, can form a “larger bloc” with the Kurdish bloc, which has about 57 seats, to gather 130 seats. Al-Maliki’s bloc can also gather about 132 other seats by including the Muhammad al-Halbousi and Khamis al-Khanjar blocs, which have about 59 seats, along with some independents.
But the most important calculation is that neither side of the “Shiite duo” can proceed with the formation of the government in isolation from the other party, because this will eventually lead to the outbreak of an armed conflict, in which neither of them will likely exit.
Iran guaranteed al-Maliki’s bloc support from the two Sunni lists led by al-Halbousi and al-Khanjar to put pressure on al-Sadr, so that he does not exaggerate in seeking to form a government alone.
Well-informed political sources said that Ismail Qaani, commander of the Quds Force, met with al-Halbousi and al-Khanjar on the fourth of this month inside the Iranian embassy in Ankara after the end of their meeting with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and obligated them to continue their alliance with the state forces under the command of Nuri al-Maliki and Hadi al-Amiri.
butterfly The same debate over recount can last for weeks or even months. Although the Electoral Commission provided indications that the percentage of votes being examined does not exceed 6 percent of the total votes, changing the percentage of seats could raise more objections and appeals, which can only end in one of two ways:
First, that The two sides of the Shiite conflict stop quarreling with each other, so that the small details of their agreement diminish in front of their agreement, or that the elections take place in their entirety.
This is a danger that could awaken all the ghosts of fears again, including the return of the parties that decided to boycott to enter the competition, so the chances of the pro-Iranian parties recede again, and with them the chances of the Sadr bloc as well, for a force of independents, “Octobers” and others to emerge, making matters more complicated for everybody.
Adviser to the Prime Minister for Elections Affairs, Abdul-Hussein Al-Hindawi, said, “It is up to the commission to decide between completing the consideration of the appeals and calling for a re-election. The government never interferes in the commission’s work.
He stressed that the government’s role is limited to two duties: providing logistical support to the commission and providing appropriate security conditions for the elections.
Observers believe that al-Sadr is too weak to go with the option of forming a bloc in isolation from al-Maliki’s bloc. While the head of the political body of the Sadrist movement, Nassar al-Rubaie, was quoted as saying that the next prime minister will be from the Sadrist movement, and that his movement will be responsible for the next government, but hours did not pass until the statement was denied.
butterfly In paving the way for an atmosphere that allows saving the political system based on the solidarity of Shiites loyal to Iran and hesitant, al-Maliki said that “the democratic path is the only way to embody the will of the people and produce the authority that expresses its free and independent decision. And he will remain keen on him and defending him, no matter the cost.”
What is meant by the “democratic political system, its stability and sustainability” is the sectarian quota system, which must continue with its previous mechanisms.
These mechanisms are based on the different groups and militias sharing positions of influence within the state, which is the same reality that allowed all these groups to become hegemonic powers. This is something that serves the interests of these parties as well as the interests of Iran, and keeps the country subject to the same cycle. rawabetcenter.com
butterfly Maybe later more to post.
Dave sheila Have a Doozy....?.....Butterfly's posts mot giving me that warm and fuzzy feeling
butterfly Dave LOL....wait for it to go international, until then it is just guru bs.
butterfly Dave Wasn't the latest from the gurus that it was suppose to happen this day the 17th?
Dave many many many many dates from Gurus..........Please bring some Good news now pretty please....
Dave the name Maliki gives me the shudders....
butterfly Dave well I try but they are involved in figuring out who is going to be the pm.
butterfly Dave I have to laugh because I posted them for you. I am with you about Maliki but it is and has been in the citizens of Iraq......we hope that is true.
butterfly another long one I am going to post.
butterfly Final results of the 2021 Iraqi elections: Minor changes that keep the Sadrist movement in first place
10-17-2021 Final results of the 2021 Iraqi elections - Minor changes that keep the Sadrist movement in first placeThe High Electoral Commission in Iraq announced, at midnight, Saturday-Sunday, the final results of the 2021 Iraqi elections, which were held last Sunday, amid unprecedented security measures in Baghdad, following a statement issued by political forces allied to Tehran in which they rejected the election results completely and considered them contested.
“These results are preliminary and can be challenged,” said the head of the Commission’s Council, Judge Adnan Jalil, in a press conference held in Baghdad within the Green Zone, stressing that “we are obligated to stand at the same distance from all candidates,” noting that the rate of participation in the elections It reached 43%.
While he revealed that “3681 electoral stations were manually counted during the past days,” Jalil did not mention the names of the winning forces or the number of parliamentary seats they obtained, but indicated that they are now available on the official website of the commission on the Internet.
However, observers confirmed that the site, due to the great pressure, came back and stopped several times during the minutes that followed the announcement of the results, and that the results were distributed among 18 governorates without the Electoral Commission collecting the results and submitting them once, until 12:10 pm Baghdad time.
butterfly According to the results, the “Sadr Movement” came in first place, with 73 parliamentary seats out of 329, followed by the “Progress” alliance led by Parliament Speaker Muhammad al-Halbousi, with 37 seats, and the “State of Law” alliance led by Nuri al-Maliki came third, with 34 seats. And the ruling Kurdistan Democratic Party in the Kurdistan region of Iraq, led by Massoud Barzani, ranked fourth, with 32 seats, representing about two-thirds of the region’s seats in parliament.
In addition, the number of seats for the “Al-Fatah” alliance, which represents the political wing of the “Popular Mobilization”, increased from 14 to 17 seats, and the “Kurdistan Alliance”, which includes the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan and other Kurdish forces, came sixth with 16 seats, while the movement declined.
“Extension” of the city from 10 seats to 9, as well as the “Azm” coalition, with 12 seats, then “Eshraqa Kanon” with 6 seats. The total number of independent candidates who presented themselves outside the framework of political parties and entities and won 40 seats in these elections.
On Saturday evening, the political forces allied to Iran anticipated announcing the final results of the elections with a new statement after a meeting they held in Baghdad, emphasizing their “complete rejection” of the election results, considering that they were challenged.
Arab reports: The “coordinating framework” anticipates the announcement of the results of the Iraqi elections by rejecting it.
In contrast to that statement, the leader of the “Sadr movement,” Muqtada al-Sadr, issued a statement declaring his acceptance of the election results, adding that “from now on, the elections and their results should not be a topic and a door.” disputes, disagreements, and conflicts.
Butterfly Units of the Iraqi army, police and counter-terrorism forces were deployed in Baghdad and several cities, most notably Najaf, Karbala and Babil, in anticipation of angry reactions to the election results.
The Al-Araby Al-Jadeed correspondent in Baghdad said that the security deployment of army and police units is still continuing in areas of Baghdad, especially in the vicinity of the Green Zone.
The Iraqi Electoral Commission postponed the date of announcing the results of the elections that took place last Sunday, several times, after stating that it will be at six o’clock in the evening and then nine in the evening local time. rawabetcenter.com
Dave Dawas and others complaining about rigged election results before the Official announcement.........sounds familiar
butterfly Dave It gave me a good giggle when I saw all that.
Dave OOPS......! not going there
butterfly Dave me either but it did make me giggle.
Butterfly Chihod calls on Shiite political parties to form the most numerous bloc and form a government to extricate Iraq from chaos and destruction
Sunday 17 October 2021 22:21 The former representative of the State of Law coalition, which won the elections, Muhammad Saadoun Al-Sayhoud, called on all Shiite political parties to form the most numerous parliamentary bloc and form the government to extricate Iraq from chaos and destruction.
Chihod said in a press statement today: "The current stage is important and sensitive and requires everyone to compromise from some to others for the purpose of forming the most numerous parliamentary bloc that includes all Shiite political parties, and thus forming a government for Iraq, not for this bloc or that." It is "there is no winner in us and another loser, either we are all winners or we are all losers."
He stressed: "There are serious and severe challenges that require everyone to unify visions and attitudes towards them. At the parliament level, there are a number of laws that Parliament must speed up their legislation, and at the governmental level, there are a number of steps that must be taken in order to achieve the prosperity of the Iraqi people." https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=933830
butterfly Al-Shabandar tweeting: There is no losing party in a race in which the people are the first winners
Sunday 17 October 2021 23:16 Baghdad / The politician Izzat Al-Shabandar confirmed that there is no losing party in a race in which the people will be the first winner.
Shabandar said in a tweet on Twitter: "The honorable will not allow Iraq to be plunged into the crisis of the election results. We must cooperate to find a formula that everyone agrees on and in which the people will be the first winner. There is no losing party in a race in which the people will be the first winner." https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=933843
butterfly The Sadrist bloc announces in an official statement that it accepts the election results announced by the Electoral Commission
Monday 18 October 2021 00:03 The Sadrist bloc announced its acceptance of the election results announced by the Electoral Commission.
A statement by the bloc read by its spokesman Haider Al-Haddad stated: "After the Independent High Electoral Commission announced the electoral results of the blocs, parties and personalities participating in the elections of October 10, 2021, we in the Sadrist bloc announce our acceptance of these results in a spirit of responsibility."
The statement added: "As the largest winning bloc according to the law of the Commission, we would like to clarify several points, including that this great victory came under the auspices and supervision of His Eminence the Leader Sayyid Muqtada al-Sadr (may God honor him) and his wise guidance and the efforts of the Iraqi masses in general and the sons of the Mujahid Sadrist movement, especially those who voted for the thoracic mass.
He continued: "Therefore, we declare that we will be under his leadership and will spare no effort for the success of his reform project, and we will work with every effort to protect the rights of this people and defend their supreme interests. We will also take all constitutional, legal and political steps and measures to protect Iraq’s independence, sovereignty and the dignity of its people in order for security, safety and peace to prevail throughout our beloved Iraq.” https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=933851
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