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butterfly The Sadrists cling to naming the Prime Minister and a source in Al-Hanana: There is no alliance until after the government is formed
2021-10-14 08:29 The Sadrists cling to naming the Prime Minister and a source in Al-Hanana - There is no alliance until after the government is formedShafaq News/ The Sadrist bloc renewed its adherence to naming a prime minister, since even after amending the results, it is still the largest bloc, while a source close to “Al-Hanana” indicated the residence of Shiite leader Muqtada al-Sadr; The new election law does not allow the formation of political alliances until after the announcement of the formation of the government.
An informed source in Al-Hanana confirmed to Shafaq News Agency, who refused to reveal his name; The issue of government formation is settled for the Sadrist bloc, and there is no discussion about that, as the Sadrist bloc tops the lists of winners with seats that guarantee it to move comfortably in order to agree with the strong winning blocs to form the government, knowing that the presidency of the government will be (Sadr) par excellence.
Regarding Al-Sadr’s calls for calm and obligating his followers not to raise arms in the face of any Iraqi in order to protect, he said that “Al-Sadr places civil peace and the security of Iraqis among the most important priorities of his work, and therefore he cannot see threats here and there and does not issue orders to all his followers to remain calm and not be drawn into the provocative attempts of some to mobilize the street against Al-Sadr and his followers,” stressing that “Al-Sadr’s position on this indicates strength and does not mean waiving the rights of his fans who gave him their votes.”
butterfly Regarding al-Sadr’s nomination for a parliamentary negotiating committee, he stated that “the committee assigned al-Sadr special tasks that are summarized in the mechanism of distributing positions and ministerial portfolios, each according to his electoral entitlement (his seats), after the final results were announced by the Electoral Commission,” noting that “promoting the formation of the government by political consensus.
Rather, it is an attempt to provoke feelings, as what distinguishes the Sadrist bloc is that it achieved the highest number of seats as one Sadrist bloc that does not include with it any current or political entity other than the Sadrists,” noting that “many of the new winners within the independent lists showed a strong desire to engage or ally with the Sadrist bloc.” This strengthens the bloc’s position in parliament and politically.”
Al-Sadr had announced in an official statement bearing his own seal that his representatives had been named to negotiate.
He said in the statement received by Shafak News Agency; “We would like to inform all political parties, that the negotiating committee that represents us exclusively and that no one has the right to interfere in its work, whoever they are (Hassan Al-Adari as its chairman, Dr. Nassar Al-Rubaie as his first deputy, Nabil Al-Tarifi as his second deputy, and Hakim Al-Zamili as his supporter).”
He added that “the committee has full powers in the matter of parliamentary and political alliances for this stage…provided that they return to us in the tasks of their affairs and avoid alliances with those who have comments on them…and that they work according to precautions and public interests.”
It is noteworthy that what is known as the Shiite coordination framework renewed its rejection of the election results on Wednesday 13 October.
He said in a statement, “We had announced our rejection of the announced preliminary results of the elections, according to clear technical data, and that what appeared in the past two days of chaos in announcing the results, confusion in procedures and inaccuracy in presenting the facts has reinforced our lack of confidence in the Commission’s procedures, which calls us to reiterate our rejection of the I announce the results and that proceeding with them threatens to endanger civil peace.” shafaq.com
butterfly State forces: We have evidence of fraud in the elections
Thursday 14 October 2021 | 02:21 PM State forces - We have evidence of fraud in the electionsThe candidate for the National State Forces Alliance in Anbar Province, Abdullah Atallah Al-Jaghifi, confirmed on Thursday that hundreds of candidates have evidence of fraud in the mechanism of counting the votes of the candidates .
Al-Jaghifi said, “The electoral process was marred by many electoral fraud and violations, represented by influential parties distributing money to voters, not to mention the commission’s postponement of the announcement of the results of the elections in Anbar and other provinces, which put the commission in an embarrassing position in a clear indication of electoral violations .”
He added, “Many of the candidates have evidence and proofs that show numbers higher than what was mentioned by the commission, which puts it in a dilemma, which made us submit appeals against the incorrectness of these numbers and their non-conformity with the numbers we own by the polling stations .”
Al-Jaghifi explained, “Influential parties spent a lot of money distributed during the course of the electoral process without respecting the blood of Tishreen, which provided a new electoral law and removed a fraudulent parliament that emerged from the May 2018 elections.” aynaliraqnews.com
butterfly 10-14-2021 Iraq - The return of the controversy over the largest bloc... and features of a crisis over the next governmentWhile the Independent High Electoral Commission in Iraq began manual counting of 140 stations in Karkh and Rusafa in Baghdad, which had not been counted and sorted electronically, the State of Law Coalition, led by Nuri al-Maliki, announced that it was in contact with several forces in order to form the largest bloc in Iraq. The next parliament, which suggests an upcoming political crisis regarding the task of forming the new government, which is supposed to be given to the Sadrist movement, as it won the largest number of deputies in the new parliament.
And the “Iraqi News Agency” quoted the Director of Procedures at the Electoral Commission, Daoud Salman, that the commission will start “the procedures for manual counting and sorting in Karkh and Rusafa, and the results will be announced within seven days.”
He added that “after the commission has completed sending all the results and considering the appeals, the board of commissioners will approve the results and they will be announced to everyone.” He pointed out that “manual counting and sorting will be for 140 stations only, whose results were not stored in a memory stick and were not sent via satellite.”
butterfly The preliminary results announced by the Electoral Commission, two days ago, showed significant progress for the movement of Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, followed by the “State of Law coalition” led by Maliki, on the Shiite front, in return for a significant decline of the forces loyal to Iran, led by Hadi’s “Al-Fateh Alliance” bloc.
Al Amri. While the “Progress” party led by Muhammad al-Halbousi advanced on the Sunni side, which inflicted a major defeat on his rival “Azm Alliance” led by businessman Khamis al-Khanjar, the “Kurdistan Democratic Party”, led by Massoud Barzani, made remarkable progress in the Kurdish front at the expense of its opponent, the National Union. Kurdistan.” While these results won the approval of the forces that won, they, on the other hand, angered the losers to the extent that many of them threatened to use force to protect what they called the “political process.”
In the forefront of these armed factions loyal to Iran, where the elections inflicted a severe loss on its political wing, the “Al-Fateh Alliance”.
butterfly The Electoral Commission, which was said to have rushed in announcing the results even assuming that they are preliminary before completing the counting and sorting process in the remaining stations, made it clear that the results it announced were preliminary and subject to appeal, and granted the owners of appeals and complaints a period of 3 days to submit their appeals. It takes about 20 days to announce the final results before the Federal Court approves them, and the first session of the new parliament begins.
A number of Iraqi leaders and leaders who suffered a great loss, with the exception of the leader of the “Hikma Movement” Ammar al-Hakim, attacked the Electoral Commission. Among them is Iyad Allawi, the former prime minister, whose daughter Sarah suffered a severe loss, although Allawi put all his weight for her victory, even after his “national” coalition announced a boycott of the elections.
The commission also attacked the leader of the “Al-Fateh Alliance” Hadi al-Amiri, who described the elections as “fabricated”. It was also attacked by former Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi and other leaders in the “Al-Fateh Alliance” and the armed factions.
Although the manual counting and appeals operations resulted in an increase in the Fatah Alliance seats from 14 to 17, the Sadrists, who won 73 seats, remain the largest bloc that must form the new government.
butterfly In this context, the controversy over the “largest bloc” has returned again. While the Sadrists see that the largest bloc is the list that wins the most votes, their opponent, the State of Law coalition led by Nuri al-Maliki, believes that the largest bloc will be formed within the House of Representatives from different blocs and lists. The Iraqi legal expert, Tariq Harb, said in a statement, “The Sadrist bloc is the most numerous bloc that will be tasked with forming the government in accordance with Article 45 of the Parliament’s Elections Law and Article 76 of the Constitution.”
He added that “the President of the Republic, who will be elected by Parliament, is obliged to assign the Sadrist bloc alone to the other blocs to nominate the person charged with forming the government, because the electoral results showed the superiority of this bloc over the other blocs,” noting that “the interpretation of the Federal Supreme Court has been seized and specified in Article (( 45) of the new election law No. 9 of 2020, which prevented the transfer of the membership of MPs from one bloc to another, a matter that previously contributed to the disruption of the process of determining the most numerous bloc in Parliament.
He continued that «preventing the transfer of a member or members of an entire bloc means that the parliamentary blocs are fixed in numbers and do not change, as stated in the final results, and cannot be increased by the transition that was prohibited by the aforementioned article. And since the Sadrist bloc has the highest number of winners, it ensured that the President of the Republic assigned it to it.”
He continued that «preventing the transfer of a member or members of an entire bloc means that the parliamentary blocs are fixed in numbers and do not change, as stated in the final results, and cannot be increased by the transition that was prohibited by the aforementioned article. And since the Sadrist bloc has the highest number of winners, it ensured that the President of the Republic assigned it to it.”
Harb explained that “the transition is different from the coalition; The first is counted as a member of the bloc to which it is transferred, and the coalition does not add anything to the numbers of blocs, because the coalition keeps the same number of members for the blocs unchanged, as the bloc remains on its numbers without increasing.”
He stressed that «what happened in the 2010 elections when Al-Maliki won 89 votes and Allawi 91 votes, but the transition (the transfer of representatives from one bloc to another) was open, so a number of members moved to the owners, which made the number of his bloc more than 100 votes, that is, more than the number of votes Allawi, which resulted in assigning al-Maliki to form a government.”
As for the legal expert, Ali Al-Tamimi, he explained to the “Iraqi News Agency” (INA) that “the interpretations of the Federal Supreme Court 2010 and 2014 confirm that the most numerous bloc is either formed after the elections from one list, or which was formed from two or more lists, so the bloc became The most numerous in the first session after taking the oath.
He added, “After the issuance of the Elections Law 9 of 2020 in Article 45, which prevented blocs, parties and entities from moving to another bloc or party except after the formation of the government that authorized coalitions between blocs, that is, the second condition of the interpretation of the Federal Supreme Court in accordance with Article 45 became disabled due to Prohibition of transfers, but the second part of this article permitted the coalition between blocs and parties, which is not the bloc or grouping to which the interpretation of the Federal Supreme Court refers; Because this means that each bloc retains its entity without becoming one bloc with the others,” noting that “the goal of this coalition is to reach the absolute majority.”
butterfly He pointed out that “the bloc with the most number is the one that wins the most votes to begin with, and it is from which the Prime Minister and the ministers will emerge.”
For his part, the researcher in political affairs, Wael Al-Rikabi, confirmed to the “Iraqi News Agency” that “the interpretation of the Federal Court still exists regarding the diagnosis of which bloc is the most numerous, and he did not specify the winning bloc in the elections.”
He added that “the election law is not concerned with the most numerous parliamentary bloc, meaning that the winning bloc does not have the right to form a government,” noting that “alliances within the parliament will result in the next prime minister, according to Article 76 of Iraqi law.” rawabetcenter.com
Butterfly It seems that Maliki has brought himself forward in everything. Is Iraq doomed, OR, will Iraq be okay. Time will only tell.
Dave butterfly if they form a Govt rapidly we may do well ie."white paper"........if not tells me politicians lining their own pockets is what it is all about.
Dave Naijafi, Allawi losing and having Maliki moaning about the results already tells me it could be GOOD..... :Fingerscrossed:
Dave Fer well over a decade we have been learning of all the atrocities of Maliki ,,,,but yet maintains his seat after almost 20 yrs.......Must be doing something right or all the news we get must be Faux?
butterfly Maliki meeting with the "high ups" says enough that he has his big nose in all the business that is going on in Iraq.
Dave butterfly meaning,,,,,,he has a huge cheque book?
butterfly Dave yes and we have discussed this many times?
Dave Figure if this white paper has any teeth we should find out soon .....or we we'll be waiting much longer......
butterfly Dave We wait as we have for over a decade now.
butterfly ISIS leader in West Africa killed
Thursday 14 October 2021 23:10 The Nigerian army confirmed today, Thursday, the death of the leader of the regional branch of the terrorist organization "ISIS".
The Nigerian Army's Chief of Defense Staff, General Lucky Irapur, told reporters that the leader of ISIS's "West Africa Province", Abu Musab al-Barnawi, "is dead and will remain dead."
The general did not provide any details on how to eliminate the prominent terrorist leader, while the "West Africa State" did not issue any statements in this regard.
It is known that Al-Barnawi is the son of the founder of the militant group "Boko Haram", which has been waging a bloody insurgency in northeastern Nigeria since 2009, and separated from it in 2016 due to differences between him and the group's leader.
Al-Barnawi headed ISIS’s “West Africa Province” during the period between August 2016 and March 2019, and then regained its leadership around May this year. https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=933289
butterfly https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/14/us-elected-to-un-human-rights-council-abandoned-by-trump US elected to UN Human Rights Council that Trump quit
Biden administration says US will ‘vigorously oppose’ the Council’s ‘disproportionate attention’ on Israel.
butterfly https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/10/14/why-is-north-koreas-currency-surging-against-the-us-dollar Why is North Korea’s currency surging against the US dollar?
North Korea is grappling with sanctions, flood damage, food shortages and a massive trade hit, yet its currency, the won, has surged 25% against the US dollar this year.
butterfly https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/10/14/us-wholesale-inflation-surges-to-another-record US wholesale inflation surges to another record
US producer prices continued to rise last month, surging to their biggest annualised jump on record.
Sheila @butterfly - great research as always - thank you so much for your continued time and efforts to be us informed
Sheila keep us informed
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