IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 12-17-19
IQD CALLS Chat Early Tuesday 12-17-19
Larrykn Good Morning all
larrykn Iraqi president receives list of candidates for new PM-designate https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/45107/Iraqi-president-receives-list-of-candidates-for-new-PM-designate
larrykn Protesters in Arab world’s newest uprisings face a long haul https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/45110/Protesters-in-Arab-world-s-newest-uprisings-face-a-long-haul
larrykn In pictures: hours after the pulse is felt. Widespread rejection of Raed Juhi despite his attempt to descend almost incognito
Baghdad- Iraq today: Activists on social media posted pictures of banners rejecting the candidacy of Judge Raed Juhi in Tahrir Square in central Baghdad. The banners, distributed in various places, in Tahrir Square, central Baghdad, included the words "Pioneer of The Gohi rejected by the people", against the backdrop of what informed sources revealed about his candidacy by the demonstrators, she said.
Juhi was in hiding in Tahrir Square. http://iraqtoday.com/news/34625/بالصور-بعد-ساعات-من-جس-النبض-رفض-واسع-لرائد-جوحي-رغم-محاولته-النزول-شبه-متخفيا
larrykn Al-Fatah: The nomination of the Sudanese by virtue of the abolitionist after the objection of these two parties. That's what the President of the Republic is waiting for.
Baghdad: Former Labor Minister Mohammed Shaya al-Sudani will not be accepted by some political blocs and the Iraqi street for being named head of the transitional government, according to a member of parliament from the Fatah alliance.
"The previous agreement stipulated that the political blocs would put forward a number of names nominated for the presidency of the prime minister, including the Sudanese, and the candidate who is approved by all, to present the president as a consensus candidate, but this failed as a result of the pressure of the street and the objection of some blocs," he said.
"The consensus between the blocs has become difficult to make the choice of prime minister, forcing President Barham Saleh to address parliament to find out which bloc will be tasked with choosing a replacement for the outgoing prime minister, Adel Abdel Mahdi," he said.
http://iraqtoday.com/news/34626/الفتح-ترشيح-السوداني-بحكم-الملغي-بعد-اعتراض-هذين-الطرفين--هذا-ما-ينتظره-رئيس-الجمهورية
larrykn Report: Why are protest squares rejecting party candidates?
Baghdad- Iraq today: A report on Iraqi protests on Monday highlighted why protesters rejected the names circulating for the post of prime minister, and the secret of political blocs' insistence on nominating a figure from within the current class to head the government.
"Some names are frequented in the corridors of the political scene and social media sites in Iraq to fill the post of prime minister for the transitional period, replacing Adel Abdul Mahdi, as the constitutional deadline granted to President Barham Saleh approaches on Thursday," the report said.
One of the most prominent names nominated is Mohamed Chiaa al-Sudani, who has previously held several positions, most notably minister of labor, social affairs and human rights."
Although al-Sudani (born in Maysan province in southern Iraq in 1970) announced via Twitter that he had resigned from the Dawa Party and the State of Law Coalition led by former Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to meet the requirement of independence, this was rejected by some political forces, including the current Al-Sadri is a protester who has held more than one ministerial portfolio in previous governments, and is required to be the new prime minister who has not participated in the political process since 2003 until now.
Independent, not resigned.
Protesters in Tahrir Square in central Baghdad launched the slogan "Independent, not resigned", referring to sudanese rejection, even if he resigned from his party on their own terms.
larrykn "The rejection of the candidacy of the Sudanese by the protest and demonstration squares is one of the mistakes of the political parties that nominated him for the presidency, because they are aware in advance of the conditions of the protesters, namely that the candidate should be from outside the political class, even if he did not previously hold the post of minister, deputy or governor, in the sense that he did not "This is a political complex that will take matters into the constitutional vacuum and the conflict between the parties in control of the Iraqi scene, which calls for the intervention of the United Nations."
Constitutional term
"The Iraqi street has set conditions regarding the prime minister's personality and ministerial composition in terms of loyalty to the homeland, integrity, transparency, independence from political parties and blocs, and not being appointed to any executive or legislative position after 2003," said Dr. Khalid Abdul Ilah, a professor of political science at Baghdad University.
In addition to the requirement of Iraqi nationality only, these conditions were divided around the blocs and political parties, including those who supported them, such as the Bloc of Walkers, when they demanded the president of the republic to nominate a prime minister from the demonstrators, then the most numerous parliamentary bloc and the source of the authorities."
larrykn "Some political blocs, including Fatah and the rule of law, went on to choose some conditions, i.e., to prefer the constitutional and legal text in the text of article (76) controversial in naming the prime minister, and this complicated the Iraqi political scene, especially since the constitutional term is mandated," abdel Ilah said.
The President of the Republic is at a crossroads between a popular vision wanted and supported by the demonstrators and another vision that requires political and constitutional consensus based on the text of article (76), noting that all political forces agree that the age of this government does not exceed 6-12 months, as well as not nominating it. For any elections, they should be mini-and with limited powers."
Integrity and professionalism
"The prime minister in charge must be known for his integrity, patriotism and professionalism in managing a complex file such as Iraq now, and be independent and civil, and not be dual national, otherwise any candidate by the ruling political blocs is now rejected by "We do not accept any candidate from within the political blocs, be it Sudanese or others."
"The President of the Republic must take into account the demands of the demonstrators in the process of selecting the next prime minister through the candidate's specifications announced through the protest squares to be independent, competent and professional, but the Sudanese has been publicly rejected," said journalist and civil activist Kamel Jabr.
"He is a former experimenter in the political process and has suspicions of corruption." http://iraqtoday.com/news/34627/تقرير-لماذا-ترفض-ساحات-الاحتجاج-مرشحي-الأحزاب
larrykn A source close to Mr. Sistani reveals the position of the reference of any candidate for prime minister
Baghdad, Iraq today: A source close to the supreme religious authority, Ali al-Sistani, revealed in Najaf province that the reference has no reservation or acceptance of any candidate for prime minister. "The reference leaves the choice of the new prime minister of the blocs in accordance with constitutional and legal frameworks," the source said. "The authority has no reservation stake and acceptance of any candidate for the post," he added.
Informed political sources revealed that President Barham Saleh had received a list of candidates for prime minister. "The president of the republic may go to the prime minister's nomination, away from naming the largest bloc," the official Iraqi news agency INA quoted the sources as saying. http://iraqtoday.com/news/34628/مصدر-مقرب-من-السيد-السيستاني-يكشف-موقف-المرجعية-من-أي-مرشح-لرئاسة-الوزراء
larrykn 6 years in prison for a member of the Al-Hakim movement in corruption cases
Baghdad- Iraq today: On Tuesday, the judiciary sentenced a leader of the Al-Hikma movement, led by Ammar al-Hakim, to six years in prison for corruption-related cases.
"The judiciary sentenced Mahmoud Mala Talal to six years in prison," a judicial source said.
"Talal's sentence was issued in cases involving al-Qasad," the source said on condition of anonymity.
A force from the Integrity Commission arrested Al-Hikma MP Mahmoud al-Mulla Talal "in bribery" in al-Jadriya area in central Baghdad, while sources said he was released on bail.
On November 26, 2019, Al-Hikma said that it was pursuing legal proceedings against MP Mahmoud Mala Talal in order to find out the origin of the case, dismantle its circumstances and sort out the different opinions on it. http://iraqtoday.com/news/34630/السجن-6-سنوات-لنائب-من-تيار-الحكيم-بقضايا-فساد
Larrykn Have a great day
Chattels " .........[the] government and sent a letter about the resignation to President Salih on Dec. 4, then Salih will have to task a prime minister-designate within a period of 15 days."
chattels 15 days after December 4 makes for December 19 I believe.
chattels " Salih will have to task a prime minister-designate within a period of 15 days."
futuremoney they have never held to any constitutional deadline...its a joke
chattels " The prime minister-designate has 30 days to form a cabinet and present it to parliament for approval. The parliament must approve each minister in separate absolute majority votes."
chattels futuremoney Certainly there have been deviations, but I like to follow along as best I am able.
futuremoney its like...follow the bouncing ball...
chattels " Abdul Mahdi has informed Salih that the deadline for his caretaker government is next Thursday, according to the sources."
chattels Thursday is the 19th.
futuremoney never happen
chattels futuremoney I'd like to be calculating a profit making conversion of my dinar, but .......
futuremoney lol
chattels Quotes selected from larrykn article above. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/45107/Iraqi-president-receives-list-of-candidates-for-new-PM-designate
chattels " The president also "received the names of candidates nominated by the demonstrators, one of them is Judge Raed Jouhi," according to INA."
chattels Who is Judge Raed Jouhi ?
chattels Raed al-Juhi is a Chief Investigative Judge for the Iraq Special Tribunal. https://www.c-span.org/person/?raedaljuhi
chattels Judge Raid Juhi, chief investigative Judge of the Iraqi Tribunal who read the Indictment to the captured Saddam Hussein discusses his life and times in Iraq in this March 26, 2010 interview for the Robert H. Jackson Center located in Jamestown N.Y. For further information see www.roberthjackson.org. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4kE0Oi8hwE
chattels Two separate links above.
chattels Iraqi judge who convicted Saddam Hussein joins U.S. lawyers who created the Iraqi Special Tribunal https://news.vanderbilt.edu/2008/09/11/media-advisory-iraqi-judge-who-convicted-saddam-hussein-joins-us-lawyers-who-created-the-iraqi-special-tribunal-63867/
chattels " Iraqi judge Ra’id Juhi was the first judge to risk his life and face former dictator Saddam Hussein in court. He and his fellow judges on the Special Tribunal made history by being the first to use international war crimes and genocide laws never before seen in Iraq. Despite the intense risks involved, he became the face of the Saddam trial by allowing it to air live on Iraqi TV."
Chattels Iraq - A senior source of the event: Consensus on the name of the new prime minister will take place before Thursday the event - 12/16/2019 http://iraqnewsapp.com/1/Article/2244/189298146#.XfjWPtVKiUk
chattels Outgoing Iraqi PM Abdel-Mahdi tells President Salih Thursday is the last day of the caretaker government. http://mobp.as/QI1eq
Doug_W IT IS always SOMETHING causing delays in Iraq
chattels Iraqi Hezbollah militia says Iraqi President Bahram Salih is following a US agenda in dealing with protests & nominating a new PM. http://mobp.as/XBdfq
futuremoney chattels IF it happens..it will be a milestone...
Doug_W futuremoney amen
chattels futuremoney Doug_W We are all here because we believe in miracles, eh ?
futuremoney Hezbollah always interjecting their garbage
Doug_W OR were nuts "C"
futuremoney we are ALL the latter..
chattels Do You Believe In Miracles? Most Americans Do. https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124007551
futuremoney prolly believe in magic too...
Doug_W chattels I believe ANYTHING is possible but I don't ever classify anything as a miracle that implies divine intervention to me
Chattels Kirk H. Sowell - " In principle, Pres Salih is supposed to nominate a new prime minister-designate by Thursday, but even if he does, that person will have 30 days to form a govt so Abd al-Mahdi will likely be in office at least until the third week of January." https://twitter.com/UticaRisk
Doug_W another "Built in" delay
futuremoney chattels ahhh...side stepping already
chattels Hisham Al-Suhail: We do not agree politically on any name currently in circulation for the position of Prime Minister
Editing Date: 12/17/2019 ............. " The sources indicated that the candidates are the resigned deputy, Muhammad Shi'a Al-Sudani, the current Basra governor, Asaad Al-Eidani, and the head of the intelligence service, Mustafa Al-Kazemi ". http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=85352
futuremoney shocker
chattels No mention of Judge Raed Jouhi.
futuremoney again...shocker..lol
futuremoney they need a dictator
chattels Allawi: Iraq is still paying the price for not respecting the constitution in 2010
Editing Date: 12/17/2019 http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=85343
futuremoney thats all they know..is brute force
chattels Parliamentary: The election law is ready to vote
Editing Date: 12/17/2019 15:54 • http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=85353
chattels Constitutional amendments discuss proposals to promote decentralization and separation of powers Editing Date: 12/17/2019 • http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=85354
chattels Iraq pays more than $ 20 billion in foreign debt
[Baghdad-Where] Iraq paid more than $ 20 billion in foreign debt during the last period, out of more than $ 50 billion, which was borrowed from foreign countries and international institutions.
The head of the Parliamentary Finance Committee, Haitham Al-Jubouri, said today: "The debts on Iraq were more than 50 billion dollars, more than 20 billion dollars were paid during the last period."
Al-Jubouri said that Iraq is still owed 27 billion dollars to foreign countries, in addition to 41 billion dollars to Saudi Arabia, "unrecognized" as described, given that it was granted to President Saddam Hussein. http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=85350
chattels And that's the way that it is from the news that I find out of Iraq on this Tuesday, December 17, 2019. Tune in tomorrow for another edition of " As Iraq Turns ". Have a fine day all.
chattels Or " Dinar Days of Our Lives " to quote Randy Koonce.