Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Friday 9-11-20

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Friday 9-11-20

Sandyf   Iraq, like every other IMF member, publishes audited accounts. The hard line RVer's would have you believe that the auditors are quite prepared to break the law and falsify the accounts. Kap is wrong, there is no 42 trillion of IQD floating about, it is in the order of 60 Trillion.

123789   Anyone else read that this RV should be happening right now? According to several gurus, we should be getting an email with exchange/redemption instructions any time now.

Zig   123789 : Don't hold your breath....lol

123789   huge tranches of money have been moved.....redemption centers are fully staffed, waiting....paymasters in place...bank tellers winking at customers who are "in the know"...ZIM needs to be redeemed within 4 days.... Any truth to any of this??? THoughts?

123789  Just posted by Judy Byington: Judy Note: It’s 9/11 and the Global Currency Reset has begun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

123789   Just posted by JudyByington: An IMF source said the Global Currency Reset began globally on Fri. 11 Sept. A Paymaster in Reno reported that initiation of RV liquidity started just after 12 midnight Reno time Fri. 11 Sept. Payouts overnight Thurs. 10 Sept. included certain Tier 3-4A SKRs, accounts of top level Tier 3-4A groups and intermediate accounts like the Native American accounts. Some sources were saying that the notifications would reach Tier 4B any time between Fri. 11 Sept. and Mon-Tue 14-15 Sept., while others said Tier 4B would start on Tues. 15 Sept.

123789   just throwing this out there bc there is no other conversation going on here

123789   This is why people (me included initially) have the idea of the redemption centers, etc... https://operationdisclosure1.blogspot.com/2020/09/special-restored-republic-via-gcr_11.html

Doug_W   USA "Soon or Iraqui "soon"?

Zig   123789 : Exactly

123789   For some reason, these "gurus' post this stuff....why do you think someone would post this misinformation day after day, month after month? Why spend their life doing this?

Zig   123789 : I used to get excited every weekend...that was 10 years ago...lol...were a few different Gurus around then....a few are in prison (BH Group)

Doug_W   me too Ziggy me too

Zig   123789 : Some make money from this in various ways.....

Zig   123789 : https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndoh/pr/two-men-convicted-fraudulent-24-million-scheme-involving-sale-iraqi-currency I almost bought into their Hedge Fund....lol

Zig   I used to listen to their conference calls all the time....was hooked.....Gullible Zig.....

123789  Also, why is this Charlie Ward guy all over the place now? I see more and more about this guy, like he's some sort of prophet...he's a guy with an accent and RV "intel"... why so special?

Zig   Look...I have no idea if we will ever profit from this...but I will keep my Dinar and just wait.... :Waiting:

123789   I've only been exposed to this Dinar realm since Feb but have never seen so much garbage surrounding anything. Other than religion, this is the biggest example of blind faith I have ever seen. Blind faith and resist all questions presented is part of the reason ppl died in Jonestown. Seems we are not far off...between the idea of the RV, Gesara and Trump being a good leader...we are no different than those cult followers. Its friggin scary.

Zig   123789 : Lucky you...wish I was only in this since Feb....lol....

Zig   This Dinar thing ages you twice as fast as non-investors so beware

123789   Honstely How are you guys still following this after 10yrs...after all the bs, how are you still believers? You must believe it will happen on some level, but after ten years...please let us newbies know the mindset...no offense but it seems crazy.

23789  and is anything happening in dinarland that you have not seen before? Does this time look any different from years past? Are we any closer to RV than you were 3, 6, 7, 9yrs ago?

Doug_W  123789 the fact that the currency is under atificial supression and one day WILL rise in value Iraq is too rich not to

Zig  Thinking of quitting this?....Just HOLD ON....Hold on!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-yyHNdqK3U

Zig   Sorry if you thought this chat room was closed today...I am an indecisive person by nature...and just experimenting still...lol...not a good trait to have but occasionally it keeps you out of trouble....It will be open tomorrow and closed on Sunday....unless I change my mind....KIDDING!!!

Doug_W   Zig can I change my name too?

Doug_W  MOD suites me just fine if U will let me that aught to get some conversations going

MOD  (Doug_W)  there

TWW   sheila I b bk tonight, several things been holdin bk from last/this wks info I left blank. As u have viewed the news L8TLY has/is happening now. Plus my military friend has returned to the Great USA with more stuff.

sheila   TWW wonderful !!! -- looking forward to hearing back here or email.

TWW   sheila My military friend gave much much infor including abt several Arab countries chatting abt who's nxt going to Israel as friends & RI/RV stuff. shhhhh

@MOD  (Doug_W)  Git er DUN Arab World

Sheila   TWW Bahrain, Israel will normalize relations, Trump announces 2:25 -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtN01-Lkfl4

Sheila   TWW All the news this week, sure does not bode well for anyone up until election day. Even then, it could be challenging.

TWW   Most arab leaders r voting (joke) Trump. They dont like Biden nor our DS for their continued wars & no follow thru promises. EX: If Egypt wants to buy 1 Billion usd to buy a jet. They know they would get mayb 10-20% snagged from the top for the Demonrats.:...the US dems are thieves. This is a fact b/c my friend just got bk Kuwait for a YR.

sheila   @TWW Trump is a capitalist. Biden, Clinton, Obama, Bush 1&2, etc... are globalists. Patriot versus "I got mine, you get your own crowd" ... Follow the money. Lolol

TWW   Itz always abt the money

Sheila  Bunch of Turncoats.

TWW  yepperz

Sheila  I am excited about the dinar. Yet I am most hopeful about the zim.

TWW i too hope great things abt the ZIM

Sheila  keep hearing some amazing numbers.

TWW   25,000IQD =78.7674 SAR

1 SAR = 317.390 IQD

1 IQD = 0.00315070 SAR

Sheila   SAR ???

TWW  25,000IQD =1,612.09 AFN

1 AFN = 15.5078 IQD

1 IQD = 0.0644835 AFN (Afgan)

TWW  SAR Saudi Arabia

Sheila  thought so, wasn't sure. Are these current forex rates?

TWW  see the different IQD rates

TWW not sure

Sheila  source?

TWW  source: xe

Sheila alrighty then

TWW   FOREX as of today: Can I trade the Iraqi dinar (IQD)?  At this time, FOREX.com does not offer trading in the Iraqi dinar (IQD). However, we do offer forex trading in over 80 currency pairs in addition to silver and gold trading

TWW  Can I trade the Vietnamese Dong (VND)?  At this time, FOREX.com does not offer trading in the Vietnamese Dong (VND)

Sheila  Wow look at that. At least thought Viet Dong/VND would be included in the currency pairs.

TWW  in fact I hear that peeps can not buy DONG's at banks now

Sheila  Yes, that's what I'm hearing too. Ebay has some trusted sellers.

Sheila  @LeLe Got notified this evening that JP Morgan Chase is calling all their employees back to work on Monday, September 21, 2020.

LeLe   sheila I seen that. Interesting indeed.

Sheila   Also Sept 21st is first day after MOUs matured for those 8B contracts with US companies.

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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Tuesday 9-8-20

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Tuesday 9-8-20

Xyz   A high-ranking delegation from the provincial government arrives in Baghdad

{Baghdad: Al Furat News} A high-ranking delegation from the Kurdistan Regional Government, headed by Qubad Talabani, Deputy Prime Minister, arrived Tuesday morning in the capital, Baghdad, to resume talks with the federal government to resolve differences and outstanding issues between the two sides.

The provincial government delegation has made several visits to Baghdad in the past months.

The differences and outstanding issues between Erbil and Baghdad are based on the region's share of the financial budgets, the entitlements of the Peshmerga forces, the export of oil, and the disputed areas covered by Article 140 of the Iraqi constitution.  Baghdad and the region reached a temporary agreement regarding the payment of salaries until the 2021 budget is approved.   LINK

xyz  The Kurdish delegation in Baghdad ... and the Kurdistan government comments

The delegation of the Kurdistan Regional Government headed by Qubad Talabani, Deputy President of the Regional Government, arrived on Tuesday in the federal capital, Baghdad.

"The delegation's visit is an extension of previous visits and dialogues between the Kurdistan Regional Government and the federal government," said the spokesman for the deputy head of the Kurdistan Regional Government, Samir Hawrami.

He pointed out that "the delegation will discuss with federal officials the draft general budget law for 2021 and the financial dues for the region therein." https://www.mawazin.net/Details.aspx?jimare=121583

Xyz  Politician: Erbil owes 50 billion dollars to Baghdad

Political analyst Muhammad al-Aqili revealed, on Monday, that the Kurdistan region is required to pay its debts to Baghdad, which amount to about 50 billion dollars, indicating that the multiple departments are the closest to the upcoming elections.

Al-Ugaili said a statement that "there is exploitation by the Kurds of the conditions in which Iraq is living and postponing the visit of the delegation is not the last."

He explained that "the multiple districts are the closest to the upcoming elections, and that the Federal Court Law is supposed to be voted upon." https://www.ikhnews.com/index.php?page=article&id=225951

xyz   Soon ... the 2020 budget will see the light

The federal public budget for the current year 2020 faced multiple problems and obstacles, not the least of which was the sudden drop in oil prices, in addition to the Corona epidemic and the accompanying collapse of economic activity not only in Iraq but throughout the world, which constituted an additional burden on the budget project, which is burdened with a large deficit,

Despite all this, the competent parliamentary committees affirm the ability to read and approve the budgets of 2020 and 2021 as soon as they are sent to the House of Representatives, and more than one competent authority expressed their hope that the 2020 budget will soon see the light after a long time waiting.

Yesterday evening, Sunday, a joint meeting was held under the chairmanship of Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi and Speaker of Parliament Muhammad Al-Halbousi, to discuss the state budget for 2020.

The convening of this meeting, which was attended by a number of ministers, deputies and advisors, comes within the methodology of cooperation between the legislative and executive authorities, in order to develop the best means and pillars that serve the national economy. The meeting discussed the draft of the state budget law for the year 2020, as it is one of the most important objectives of the ministerial curriculum of the government, in a manner that ensures the citizen’s interest and level of living are taken into account.

The joint meeting also dealt with following up on the latest steps in preparing the economic reform paper, as well as discussing general frameworks for the state budget for the next year, 2021.

The government has a month to send the budget for next year 2021, and despite the lack of time to read and approve the two budgets (this year and next), a member of the Parliamentary Finance Committee, Jamal Cougar, confirms that Parliament is ready to disc

xyz   The government has a month to send the budget for next year 2021, and despite the lack of time to read and approve the two budgets (this year and next), a member of the Parliamentary Finance Committee, Jamal Cougar, confirms that Parliament is ready to discuss and approve the budget for the current year 2020, stressing that this year's budget "will see the light" if it is sent

On the issue of the 2021 budget, Cougar told Al-Sabah: “The 2021 budget will be operational. As for the investment, it will be ink on paper, because the government does not have sufficient funds for it.”

The Ministry of Planning announced earlier that the job grades of 240,000 degrees will be moved from the 2020 budget to the 2021 budget according to the mechanisms of deletion, creation and retirement. He points out that the 2021 draft budget does not include a legal text that allows the government to borrow internally and externally, because "oil prices have begun to recover globally, as well as the government's control over the revenues of many outlets."

Member of the Finance Committee, Majed Al-Waeli, criticized the budget preparation mechanisms, stating that they are still "with the same stereotypical vision, and all procedures are going in a monotonous manner". Regarding the availability of job grades, Al-Waeli hinted in his speech to Al-Sabah that there are real grades close to the number announced by the Ministry of Planning The amount of 240 thousand degrees, indicating the possibility of the availability of these degrees in the event of completing the transactions of retired referred to retirement and receiving them Their rights.

xyz   MP Muhammad Shiaa Al-Sudani supports the talk of his colleague Al-Waeli regarding the availability of job grades. A member of the Committee for the Follow-up of the Implementation of the Governmental Program and Strategic Planning says to Al-Sabah: “The number announced by the Ministry of Planning with the presence of job grades of up to 240,000 degrees is a real number resulting from the implementation of a law Retirement and the movement of owners in all ministries, "expressing his concern about" fairness "in the distribution of these job grades, and the control of this file by influential political forces, especially with the imminent holding of early elections, and the Sudanese MP called on the government to put job grades at its disposal Service board Federal."    LINK

xyz   Baghdad and Erbil form committees to resolve disputes

Baghdad / The delegation of the Kurdistan Regional Government headed by Qubad Talabani, Vice President of the Regional Government, began its first meeting in the capital, Baghdad, with the Minister of Finance and Deputy Prime Minister Ali Allawi.

Samir Hawrami, a spokesman for the Vice President of the Kurdistan Regional Government, according to the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan website, said that an expanded meeting was held in Baghdad after the arrival of the region’s delegation to it, explaining that the delegation of the region and the delegation of the federal government discussed the outstanding differences between the two sides and the financial dues for the region and the draft general budget law for 2021.

Hawrami added: "The meeting decided to form specialized and subsidiary committees to intensify dialogues on oil and gas files, financial dues, electricity, border crossings, and debts."

He indicated that it is expected that these committees will present the results of their follow-ups and dialogues in light of the paragraphs and articles of the Iraqi constitution to the two negotiating delegations in order for an agreement to be reached.

He pointed out that the Kurdistan Regional Government delegation expressed readiness to agree with the federal government regarding oil and non-oil revenues and border crossings revenues. https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=855078

Zig   Kaperoni is still allowed to come here and chat but without the name-calling....let's see if that works...see if you folks can converse with him without resorting to name-calling as well, as it goes "both ways".....if not, I may have to make an exception to my rule....enough said...

Dave   If folks choose to follow Kap......OKAY.......Many do prefer to follow CBI instead......CBI must be IDIOTS TOO......?   Who to believe........?hmmm   CBI has said NO float fer yrs.....Kap has his own plan...

xyz  Under the dome of Parliament, the Minister of Finance discloses the reason for the delay in the reform paper

Shafaq News / The Minister of Finance in the Iraqi federal government, Ali Allawi, revealed on Tuesday the reason for the government’s delay in sending the government reform paper to Parliament.   This came during his hosting of the parliament session, according to what a parliamentary source revealed to Shafaq News.

The source said, "Finance Minister Ali Allawi made it clear during his attendance at the parliament session that the reason for the government’s delay in not sending the government reform paper to Parliament was the lack of completion of the domestic and foreign borrowing law to bridge the fiscal deficit for the year 2020."

He added that "the government did not borrow any external amount, and only borrowed locally," noting that "the government disbursed all internal borrowing funds, according to the Minister of Finance."

Minister Allawi said, according to the parliamentary source, that the government will present the reform paper to Parliament and other concerned parties at the end of this month.

According to Allawi, the government is working to stop the waste of public money at all levels, and that this will be guaranteed in the economic reform paper.

And Iraq had resorted to borrowing to contain the financial crisis that resulted from a significant decline in oil prices during the past months due to the Corona pandemic, which paralyzed large sectors of the world economy.

Iraq relies on oil to finance up to 95 percent of state spending.

Al-Kazemi pledged, upon the formation of his government last May, to carry out reforms in the country that would improve public services in the country, create the atmosphere for early elections, as well as fight corruption. xyz   LINK

xyz   Al-Kazemi directs to hold a special session to approve the budget law

Shafaq News / Ahmed Mulla Talal, spokesman for Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi, announced that the latter had directed to hold a special session to discuss and approve the 2020 federal budget.

Mulla Talal said in a tweet that the session will take place at the beginning of next week.

The spokesman for the General Secretariat of the Council of Ministers, Haider Majeed, told Shafaq News on Sunday that it had received the special budget for the remainder of the year 2020, by the Ministry of Finance, to be discussed and sent to the House of Representatives.

The head of the Parliamentary Finance Committee, Haitham al-Jubouri, also revealed to Shafaq News that the draft budget law will be limited to the months of September, October, first and second, and December.

Iraq has not passed the federal budget law for the current year as a result of the protests crisis that has swept the country since October 2019, and toppled the previous government.

Mustafa Al-Kazemi's government faced difficulties in preparing the budget project at a time when the country was suffering from a stifling financial crisis, resulting from the collapse of oil prices in world markets.  LINK

Dave  sadly CV had shut down the work of Parliament -- postponed and more delays   Folks figure there Protests not such a good idea at this time......????

xyz   Minister of Finance from Parliament: We seek to stop the doors of wasting public money

The Minister of Finance, Ali Allawi, confirmed, on Tuesday, that the government seeks to stop the doors of wasting public money at all levels.

Allawi said during his presence in the parliament session today, "The reform paper will be presented to the three presidencies and the relevant committees at the end of this month."

"We seek to stop the doors of wasting public money at all levels, and this will be included in the economic reform paper," he added.    LINK

Dave  wastin public money in IRAQ........? Kazemi figured that out........About Time! i see no controversy......   Kaps word over CBIs ......easy fer me to decide.  only reinforces what i believe --all speculation.....except the word NO!

Zig   Dave : As I recall, you had some "decent" discussions with him at times...

Dave  only learn by questioning ones logic.....dont take anything "Carte Blanche"   that french......

Dave  if one cant question ones logic without an answer or a response....where is the logic?

Dave  Iraq once very wealthy......uber rich......sanctions ......now uber poor?

Dave  one of the wealthiest country in the world.....?   no longer globally tradeable......

Zig   I got in because an online "Acquaintance" told me to hurry up and buy it because it would soon be over $3.....I rushed to buy.....worried I was too late....that was 10 years ago.....lol

Dave   CBI states Delete 3 zeros and increase the purchasing power of the IQD

Dave   some do their own research before investing

Zig   Dave : No time for any research then as I thought I was too late!!.....lol

Dave   some i hear have more money than brains

Tebow  Zig why should one care what others do with their money. Unless maybe one is working with dinars dealers trying get people to sell.

Zig  Dave : I have more brains than money but that's not saying much.....lol

Dave  wished to be be retired by now

Tebow  Dave retirement is great

Dave  would have if i didnt leave the oil patch

Tebow  just confusing s you have no weekends to look forward to

Dave  just had 3 days off  being rich would mean i would get someone else to reno my home......and live in a resort fer 3 weeks

Doug_W  Dave you have a V E R Y warped view of life and wealth

Dave  yeah try hoisting up a upper corner cabinet,,,,,,FUN?

Doug_W   what U constantly discuss will NOT I repeat NOT make U happy I know as I have financial security and that does not provide me happiness that comes from within

Dave  bowl of popcorn a good movie with wife

Doug_W  been there dun that too I remodeled completely to bare walls an old (1888) farm house

Dave  when your pushing 60??????

Doug_W  no when I was much younger actually

Zig  @Doug_W sees patients here by appointment only to discuss your "Happiness From Within" which your Dinar will not provide for you

Bob  What this person said recently( Sheila) said about a "float rate" is incorrect. A float or in this case a floating currency is the result of market forces ie supply and demand.

xyz  "The influential parties no longer control the prime minister"

The independent MP for Diyala Governorate, Nahida al-Daini, said on Tuesday that political parties no longer control the prime minister under the current government headed by Mustafa al-Kazimi.

In a special statement to Shafaq News, Al-Daini said that influential parties are trying to recycle the same former faces accused of corruption to fill high government positions. Al-Daini indicated that these parties are accustomed to managing the files of the prime minister, adding, "but they cannot do that as before."

Al-Daini also denied attacking Al-Kazemi.

Media and social media platforms reported statements attributed to Al-Daini, stating, "We have not seen any achievements from Al-Kazemi on the ground until this moment, but rather relied on the loud media."

Al-Daini responded by saying, "I have never made such statements, and I do not know about them," noting that "Al-Kazemi faces great and grave challenges, most notably resolving the issue of fugitive weapons, corruption, and choosing the appropriate personalities for the positions."   LINK

Doug_W   Bob IE Capitalism

Dave   Bob Managed Float or Free Float>>>>?    Big difference

Doug_W  Dave supply and demand not govt controilled

Dave  tru  central banks money they decide

Bob   There are those that are looking for a "float rate". No such thing. Floating is a verb denoting an action. Some countries float some peg. Some do what called a dirty float where they control it within parameters.

Sheila   Bob Let me clear this up for you. I DID NOT say I believe there would be a float rate. That Kap - Joe, whomever repeatedly says there will be a float rate on the dinar. I repeatedly asked HIM to tell us what that float rate would be. He keeps saying there will not be an overnight RV. Do not lump me into any category that includes Kap - Joe, whatever.

Allascam  (Kaperoni)  sheila You might want to read up on how countries transition from peg to float. They do not RV first they simply change from peg to float. So when they decide, they will simply change and the rate starts at what it is at the time..which is 1190. Start reading here... https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2004/wp04126.pdf https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/issues/issues38/ei38.pdf

Sheila  Zig I am going with history of currency valuations. The dinar can certainly revalue back to where it was devalued.

Sheila  Allascam No thank you. You have tunnel vision on the IMF sources. Besides we all know now that you are a true believer in the dinar. You're just not done throwing your temper tantrums. lolol

Allascam  (Kaperoni)  sheila lol no I just know the CBI follows the IMF! They have to they have signed Stand By Agreements making them

Sheila  Allascam I'm thinking the CBI follows the BIS and all those private bankers in the central banking system.

Sheila  Allascam Still waiting to know the "float" rate you are expecting on the dinar??? Oh, the new guy, Bob, had some good words to say about your float rate theory. He had me confused with you. Never to be... lolol

Zig  sheila : Float from wherever it is at the time it starts... I believe Kap says....

Dave  Allascam https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=how+to+say+no+in+40+laguages&docid=607987852478775746&mid=CA2EC2F49C1082093679CA2EC2F49C1082093679&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

8 Sep 20, 03:54 PM Dave  understand that translation?

Knowitall  (Kaperoni)  Not once has has the CBI not done what the IMF said in 15 years I have been reviewing docs. Your a fool to think they would do otherwise. They have a charter to follow to remain members in the UN, IMF and WB. They cannot RV the dinar..every with over 42 trillion sitting in mattresses

Dave  wheel barrows or wallets then?

Sheila   One man's opinion: (9/8) Iraq Amazing News -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KuFVaIqSek

Tebow   Iraq is a soverign country! They do not have 42 trillion in stuff in their beds. All gurus have been wrong. No matter how many times a guru tells you his opinion, it does not make it fact, just an opinion he has repeated millions of times. Repeation is not fact!

Dave   Tebow 42 trillion fer yrs ...despite CBIs currecy auctions taking 3=4 trillion a month fer like ayear

Tebow  Dave yes, seems some may not accept that fact.  The CBI is not going to give anyone a hint as what they are going to do.

Dave  Fact that CBI has had no currency auctions?  Tebow you mean CBI aint going to have a date or rate......man....who is going to give us a hint so i can go out and buy a ton of it before this Rvs

Sheila  Interesting take on liquidity and extreme hardship in the economy: The Biggest Wealth Transfer In History --https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZKI2FfQjnQ

Xyz   9-8-2020 Intel Guru Joe Article: "The House of Representatives has finished reading two laws and addresses an oral question to the Finance and Planning Ministers" Quote: "...the importance of reviewing the exchange rate so that the Iraqi economy enters the circle of competition with the interest of the International Monetary Fund in the issue of the exchange rate..." NOW WE ARE TALKING...FINALLY...AWESOME NEWS...

Sheila   One man's opinion: (9/8) MORE AMAZING NEWS -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7jyyrPUofc

Dave  .....amazing now only 2.6 billion left...... some here tell that is the Ch7 impediment in going global withy the IQD

Sheila  Funny Prayer about Getting Old - Home Instead --  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPFCn3itBFE

Sheila  Deal of the century phone call scene -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGNF7b86TiA

Sheila   that scene is metaphor for all those that gave up just before the RV activated... lolol

Knowitall (Kaperoni)   The size of the Iraqi monetary block is 80 trillion dinars

09/08/2020 20:02   Baghdad / Obelisk: A member of the Parliamentary Finance Committee, Ahmed Hama Rashid, spoke on Tuesday, September 8, 2020, about a number of reasons that led to a crisis that faced the government when it decided to borrow from banks in the country, while revealing the size of the monetary mass in Iraq and the volume of its trader.

A member of Hama Rashid said, in a press statement, that "the Iraqi citizen's lack of confidence in the banking system is due to many reasons, the most prominent of which is the lack of credibility in the infrastructure of banking systems of all kinds on the part of the Iraqis, although Iraq has 86 governmental and private banks."

Hama Rashid added, "This means that these banks could not participate in building the economic infrastructure due to the poor banking system and the failure of these banks to fulfill their obligations towards the Iraqis, and that Iraq still lacks legal legislation guaranteeing deposits in banks despite the submission of a draft of this." Law since the previous parliamentary session 2014-2018. "

And about the size of the monetary block in Iraqi dinars, Rashid revealed, "Iraq has a printed cash block issued by the Central Bank estimated at 80 trillion Iraqi dinars, with a circulation volume ranging from 38 to 40 trillion dinars, but less than half of the last number is found in government banks. And eligibility, and the rest is stored with merchants and families in their homes, which led to the government facing a crisis in borrowing from banks because of Iraq’s reliance so far on the circulation of paper currency without relying on electronic trading and credit cards.

Iraq witnessed a large cash liquidity crisis following the decline in global oil prices due to the Corona virus pandemic, which led to difficulties the government faced in providing Iraqi cash to meet the requirements of public employees' salaries and operating expenses.    LINK

Knowitall   lol

Knowitall  (Kaperoni)  And about the size of the monetary block in Iraqi dinars, Rashid revealed, "Iraq has a printed cash block issued by the Central Bank estimated at 80 trillion Iraqi dinars, with a circulation volume ranging from 38 to 40 trillion dinars, but less than half of the last number is found in government banks. And eligibility, and the rest is stored with merchants and families in their homes, which led to the government facing a crisis in borrowing from banks because of Iraq’s reliance so far on the circulation of paper currency without relying on electronic trading and credit cards.

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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Monday 9-7-20

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Monday 9-7-20

Xyz   Deputy: Sending the budget to Parliament aims to introduce a new borrowing law

Member of the Parliamentary Finance Committee, Jamal Cougar, on Monday considered the federal government's "desire" to send the current year's budget as a "preemptive step" aimed at obtaining an opportunity to present a new law for borrowing.

Cougar said in an interview with Alsumaria News, "The desire of the federal government to send a budget for the current year to the House of Representatives, although the fiscal year is nearing its end, is because of its need for a new borrowing law," indicating that "the internal and external borrowing law that was legislated within the Council Previously, MPs had two ceilings, one of which was time and the other financial."

Cougar added, "The financial ceiling has been set at five billion dollars externally, and 15 trillion dinars locally," pointing out that "the time limit represents the expiration of the law when the new federal budget comes to the dome of Parliament."

He pointed out that "according to these ceilings, the government decided to adopt a pre-emptive step and create a new opportunity by sending the budget to the House of Representatives in order to obtain space for submitting another law to borrow and obtain additional funds to fill part of the fiscal deficit in the budget next year."    LINK

xyz   A member of Parliament resolves the controversy over including a decision in the 2021 budget for borrowing

A member of the Parliamentary Finance Committee, Jamal Cougar, confirmed, Monday, (September 07, 2020) that the 2021 draft budget does not include a legal text that allows the government to borrow internally and externally.

Cougar said in an interview with (Baghdad Today), that "the inclusion of external and internal borrowing in the draft budget law for 2020 came as a result of the financial crisis that the country is going through," indicating that "oil prices have begun to recover globally as well as the government's control over the revenues of many outlets."

He added that "the draft federal budget law for the country for the year 2021 does not need the decision of internal or external borrowing because it will cripple the Iraqi economy, and add more difficult situations to fulfill these loans."

And the decision of the Finance Committee, Ahmed Al-Saffar, was likely on Sunday (September 06, 2020), that the 2020 budget will reach the House of Representatives in the middle of this month, while he indicated that Parliament needs two weeks to pass the budget and vote on it.

Al-Saffar said in an interview with (Baghdad Today), that "the 2020 budget arrived at the Council of Ministers 4 days ago, and the Council also needs a period to discuss and then vote on it, and after that, it is sent to the House of Representatives."

He suggested, "Perhaps in the middle of the ninth month of this month, the budget will arrive in Parliament, and within two weeks the vote on it will be completed, because the budget does not bear a delay and is short." LINK

Xyz   The Central Bank urges electronic payment companies to tighten procedures on their agents and points of sale

September 07, 2020

The Central Bank urges electronic payment companies to tighten procedures on their agents and points of sale

The Central Bank of Iraq urged the electronic payment companies licensed by this bank to tighten procedures that regulate the work of agents and points of sale for these companies .

This bank directed the payment companies to withdraw the agency granted to agents who do not have movement or activities to pay the salaries and entitlements of retirees within a period of (6) months from the date of the license, otherwise the Central Bank will take punitive measures against the company that gives the agency .

The Central Bank of Iraq   information Office   https://cbi.iq/news/view/1549

xyz   Did the parliamentary system fail in Iraq? .. A legal expert answers 6 points

The legal expert, Ali Al-Tamimi, analyzed, on Monday, the reasons for the failure of the parliamentary system in Iraq through six points.

Al-Tamimi said in a statement, which "People" received a copy of (September 7, 2020), that "the failure of the parliamentary system in Iraq is due to the following:

1- The constituents of the parliamentary system are the economic and social conditions ... which are indispensable for the growth and development of this system, i.e. the basic infrastructure for the political superstructure. With its interests and achieve its goals of living, and so was the parliamentary system.

2- The first appearance of the parliamentary system in Europe, specifically in England or capitalism in 1720, and then in France and Germany after that and Italy, and this system did not succeed in these countries until after their industrial stability and the rise in the societal standard of living, as happened in Germany after the Second World War. The rich European countries that adopt a parliamentary system are among the richest countries in the world.

3- In a parliamentary system, the people adhere to this system, which increases public wealth, achieves societal well-being and increases national income.

4- But if the parliamentary system is found in a country that is lagging behind in economic growth and suffers from social poverty, then this is a great risk and the possibility of the parliamentary system failure is certain, because in these countries it is deviating from its course and perhaps civil wars in these countries may occur as a result of divisions, dispersal of decision-making and unemployment.

xyz  5- In Iraq, the experience is new, that is, the experience of the parliamentary system and it was not based on the foundations of the capitalist system because the economic system in Iraq is gelatinous, neither socialist nor capitalist, in addition to the fact that the relationship between the three authorities is vertical and not horizontal, as is required by the principle of separation of powers and thus the existence of the parliamentary system In Iraq, with the lack of even electricity and the loss of capital, this parliamentary system deviated from what it should be, and these results were what we see today. 

6- I am with the calls that want to return to the better presidential system for Iraq, whose rhythms can be controlled through a temporary constitution, not permanent, and the term of the president of the republic being limited to 4 years, and the parliament monitors the president ... as is the case in Egypt. https://www.nasnews.com/view.php?cat=39712

Sheila  Are all revaluations a scam or just the one connected with the Iraqi dinar?

Doug_W  Revaluations are rare but this one is SOO full of gurusn "hyping" it its sad

Dave  Seen nodda from CBI to create any hype?

Sheila  Before the last 15-20 years, the world did not have access to an information system like the internet. Research prior to using the word "rare" pertaining to economic history. Wars around the world throughout history generally includes currency devaluations and revaluations. War and plunder of a country's treasury are stable sources of income, including DVs and RVs, even in what we consider modern times.

Dave  \CBI gonna advertise a RV

Dave  ?

Joe (Kaperoni)  sheila not with 42 trillion they dont!

Joe (Kaperoni)   Dave Of course they wont because it will never happen.

Joe  The numbers just don't support that kind of event. Dream all you want, but there is no overnight RV.   You will either see a LOP or a float like other countries do.

LeLe  @Joe how miserable are you? Why are so worried about currency holders? You sold yours. So now you should move on.

Joe  (Kaperoni)  LeLe That's not how it works.  When they float the dinar will gradually rise and maybe I will buy in then. In the meantime, I educate those less fortunate to think for themselves and provide solid facts that there is NO RV.

Sheila   And yet you are going to continue to watch and when "they float the dinar will gradually rise and maybe I will buy in then"??? So you do believe the dinar will revalue to a "float" --- what value is that float supposed to be, according to you?

Sheila  With that logic, you are going to pay significantly more for your dinar than all of us have paid. Buy and hold is what we have done. You bought, threw a temper tantrum when it didn't happen when you thought... and now you bully and use name-calling to fuel your long-term tantrum. At least you are committed and consistent.

Joe   sheila the value of the dinar is 1190. The central bank will never revalue, but they will move from off the peg and float. If you know anything about central banks, they are in the business of making money. Therefore the rate is the rate...1190 and it will float from there.

Sheila  Float to what value? Tell us Oh Great Seer.

Joe  I will buy it like any other currency.

Joe   sheila Who knows what the potential is. That is up to Iraq.

Joe   (Kaperoni)  sheila I am not a guru, I just show the facts. And the facts are well documented they will float and let it rise as the economy grows, That is what the IMF wants and we will have to wait and see the potential.

Sheila  Did not say you were a guru. You keep telling us it's a scam. Then you tell us you see the dinar going "float". So which is it?

Sheila   @Joe No, I want to hear what you have to say. Clear and concise about the dinar floating to what value -- then you will buy dinar.

Joe    sheila I'll buy it whenever it starts. No sense hoping now when they have not even created the conditions for foreign investment!

Sheila   None of those guys said what you said about the dinar going to a "float". They are already in the game. No, I want to hear what you have to say about the Dinar "float" and what rate that "float" will be? Tell us Oh Great Seer.

Sheila   @Joe So you are a dinar revaluation believer. What is that "float" value? Tell us Oh Great Seer.

Joe  (Kaperoni)  sheila That's right! Because they get paid ***** and sell dinar. But anyone with a brain can read how emerging markets and central banks work with the IMF and would know it;s all bull crap!

Sheila   @Joe I am agreeing with you. Just want to know what that dinar "float" value is that will make you jump all in? Tell us Oh Great Seer.

Sheila   @Joe Awe, Joe. I am not swayed by other guys on the internet. I bought dinar before I knew anything about any of those guys. They cannot "sell: anything to me. I am asking you again, what is the dinar "float" rate that you keep referring to get you in the game? Tell us Oh Great Seer.

Joe  (Kaperoni)  Tohme indicates that "all countries of the world follow a policy of floating currency except in Iraq because the currency auction is one of the gates of corruption that feeds the pockets of spoilers," stressing that "floating the Iraqi dinar will protect Iraq's reserves from hard currency from loss and waste."

Joe  Love that! Don't get any better than that!  When they stop the auctions, what will they do? hmmmm

Sheila   Have no arguments with Joe-Kap... I really want him to share what this dinar "float" rate is going to be -- and, will get him back into this "scam" that he is hammering all of us.

Sheila   it is so much fun to challenge this great mind, this Great Seer. Maybe one day he will share his knowledge about this "float" rate he is waiting on that will get him back into this "scam". All of us bought in at 1190-1260. Most of us. And he wants to get in when the dinar hits a "float" rate.

Sheila   So he's the smart one waiting for a "float" and we are the "stupid", we are the "idoits" buying in at 1190-1260 dinar per dollar. And he is going to be the "smart" one waiting for a "float" rate?

Zig   sheila : I actually agree with a lot of what Kaperoni says....and have for a long time....but I have an open mind and consider everything....because I just don't have the answers, just questions....I don't attack others....we should be able to disagree without being disagreeable......

Sheila   Zig Well, he seems to be able to "See" our downfall into this "scam"... so what's the "float" rate? What "float" rate would get him to buy dinar and join us in this "scam"?

Zig  sheila : I think he would buy back when it started to float....at the beginning IMO

Sheila   Zig I find it funny strange that he thinks we are being scammed buying dinar at 1190 to 1 dollar. And he is going to wait for a "float" rate? Hypothetical: Say the float is .86 cents to 1 dollar. And we are being scammed at 1190 to 1 dollar? Who taught him mathematics?

Sheila  Zig What kind of math was he taught? We bought in @ 1190-1260 to 1. And he wants to buy in when there's a float rate? Suppose it's 1:1 for a few weeks or months. We paid 1K for 1M dinar - at 1:1, that's 1M dinar for 1K original purchase. He will have to pay 1M dollars for 1M dinar. Waiting is waiting is waiting. Yet paying 1K to eventually get 1M. Wow, what an exchange!!! Yet he wants to wait for a "float" rate. And he considers all of us to be stupid and idiots??? lolol lolol lolol

Zig   sheila : No...Kap thinks it will float from where it currently is, that it won't jump up to start, so he would buy back at a rate close to where it is now.....

Zig     When I got into this I listened to all the Gurus who told me it would RV every weekend...then I heard one of Kap's calls and it sounded more realistic to me...but I don't know anything for sure obviously....I keep my Dinar and hope that someday I will profit....the mechanism?....i.e. how that increase will occur?....I don't know....and since I do not need the money I invested I will hold on and wait....simple.....

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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Sunday 9-6-20

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Sunday 9-6-20

 Xyz   Refer the fiscal year 2020 budget to the Council of Ministers

Baghdad: Tariq Al-Araji   The Ministry of Planning referred the budget for the year 2020 to the Council of Ministers for approval, and then referred it to the House of Representatives for approval so that the borrowing law can be approved in order to release the entitlements of employees and citizens for the remaining months of the current year, confirming work with the relevant authorities to prepare the 2021 budget.

The Undersecretary of the Ministry Maher Hammad Johan said to “Al-Sabah”: The federal financial budget for the current year 2020 that was sent by the Ministry of Finance to the Council of Ministers last Wednesday is the same budget that was prepared earlier and contains a financial deficit estimated at 80 trillion dinars, and was based on an amount A total of 146 trillion dinars.

A promise to send the budget is necessary, stressing that the budget has not undergone any change, and also contained the launch of bonuses and promotions for all employees, indicating that the available job grades for retirement were added to the federal budget for 2021.

And Johan revealed that the Ministries of Planning and Oil, in addition to the Central Bank, Customs Authority and Public Debt Department, are currently reviewing the amounts that could be supplied to the 2021 budget, which now lacks the existence of final figures.   LINK

Xyz   A member of the Kurdistan Patriotic reveals the duration of the financial agreement between Baghdad and Erbil

Baghdad today - Kurdistan 5-9-2020

Member of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, Hassan Ali, revealed, on Saturday, September 05, 2020, the term of the financial agreement between the central government in Baghdad and the Kurdistan Regional Government.

Ali said in an interview with (Baghdad Today), "The financial agreement between Baghdad and Erbil is in effect until the end of the current year," indicating that "Baghdad will continue to send an amount of 320 billion dinars to the region allocated for the salaries of employees until the end of the current year, after which the region’s share will be approved according to For next year's budget agreement."

He added that "there is a prominent Kurdish delegation headed by Qubad Talabani, who will arrive in Baghdad at a later time for an understanding with the federal government."

And Ali pointed out that "the Federal Ministry of Finance will send in the coming days the sums allocated to the salaries of employees and place them in the account of the Central Bank, Erbil branch," pointing out that "the regional government is required to distribute salaries completely without deduction, and this is what it promised in light of the improvement in financial conditions."

Earlier, Samir Hawrami, a spokesman for the Vice President of the Regional Government, Qubad Talabani, confirmed, today, Saturday, that the Kurdistan Regional Government delegation will visit Baghdad to complete the round of talks.

Hawrami said in a statement received (Baghdad today), "The delegation of the Kurdistan Regional Government headed by Vice President of the Regional Government Qubad Talabani will visit Baghdad soon to complete the talks with the federal government." LINK

xyz   Kurdistan government: a high-ranking delegation to Baghdad to fix the region’s financial dues in the budget

On Sunday, the Kurdistan Regional Government announced its intention to send a high-level delegation to Baghdad, while indicating that the delegation will discuss the file of fixing the region's financial dues in the draft budget in 2021.

The spokesman for the Deputy Prime Minister of the Kurdistan Regional Government, Samir Hawrami, said in a statement to the official agency, followed by "People", (September 6, 2020), "It is likely that, today, Sunday, a high-level delegation from the Kurdistan Regional Government headed by the Vice President of the Kurdistan Regional Government, Qubad Talabani, will visit. The capital, Baghdad, to discuss the outstanding problems in the issue of the budget. "

He added, "This visit will complement the previous meetings, and its aim is to stabilize the financial dues for the Kurdistan region, in the draft federal budget for 2021."

For his part, the deputy of the Kurdistan Democratic Party, Sherwan Dubardani, said, "The delegation will be accompanied by a number of officials, especially those responsible for the files related to the visit, such as the oil and gas file, employees' salaries, outlets, peshmerga salaries, and the file of the disputed areas."

He pointed out that "these problems remained pending with Baghdad, and the regional government has shown its willingness to solve these problems in light of the Iraqi constitution."

And, "the personnel file, the oil file, and the ports file, all of them will be submitted in a transparent manner to the federal government, in order to end all these problems in cooperation with Baghdad." https://www.nasnews.com//view.php?cat=39593

Xyz   Parliamentary Finance: Parliament will not allow the renewal of borrowing

The Parliamentary Finance Committee confirmed, on Sunday, that the general budget for the next year did not reach the House of Representatives, while it indicated not to allow renewal of borrowing.

The head of the committee, Haitham al-Jubouri, said in an interview followed by Al-Iqtisad News.

Al-Jubouri added, "It is assumed that the government will find solutions other than borrowing to increase its revenues through non-oil revenues, such as customs taxes and the collection of services, fees and other chapters," noting that "the draft federal budget law for 2021 has not yet reached the parliament."

The Parliamentary Finance Committee revealed, earlier that the Budget Committee at the Ministry of Finance has begun preparing a draft budget for the next three years, while it indicated that it is awaiting the arrival of the draft budget for the current year 2020. https://economy-news.net/content.php?id=21745

Xyz   9-5-2020 Newshound/Intel Guru Mnt Goat Article: "AL-KAZEMI: THERE ARE PARTIES WHO LIVE ON CHAOS, AND WE ARE WORKING HARD TO RESTORE THE PRESTIGE OF THE STATE" ...the governor of the CBI has told us many times in the past that this “prestige” does include bringing the value of the dinar to values of the past. The only way they can do this is by getting investors to buy the dinar and the only way they can do this with an RV’d rate is to get back on the currency exchanges (FOREX). We know that one of the demands of the protestors is to stop the currency auctions.

Xyz   Finance: The 2020 budget contains a deficit of 80 trillion dinars

Today, Wednesday, the Ministry of Finance confirmed that the 2020 budget that the ministry sent last Wednesday to the government contains a deficit of "80 trillion dinars."

The Undersecretary of the Ministry of Planning, Maher Hammad Johan, said in a press statement, that "the federal financial budget for the current year 2020 that the Ministry of Finance sent to the Council of Ministers last Wednesday is the same budget that was prepared earlier and contains a financial deficit of 80 trillion dinars, and was approved For a total amount estimated at 146 trillion dinars. "

He added that "the budget has not undergone any change, and also contained the launch of bonuses and promotions for all employees," indicating that "the available job grades for retirement assignment have been added to the federal budget for 2021."

He pointed out that "the ministries of planning and oil, in addition to the Central Bank, the Customs Authority and the Public Debt Department, are currently reviewing the sums that could be supplied to the 2021 budget, which now lacks the existence of final figures." https://www.ikhnews.com/index.php?page=article&id=225787

Xyz   Parliamentary Finance: The budget reaches Parliament in the middle of this month, and we need two weeks to vote on it

Today, Sunday (September 06, 2020), the financial committee reporter, Ahmed Al-Saffar, suggested that the 2020 budget will reach the House of Representatives in the middle of this month, while indicating that Parliament needs two weeks to pass the budget and vote on it.

Al-Saffar said in an interview with (Baghdad Today), that "the 2020 budget arrived at the Council of Ministers 4 days ago, and the Council also needs a period to discuss and then vote on it, and after that, it is sent to the House of Representatives."

He suggested, "Perhaps in the middle of the ninth month of this month, the budget will reach Parliament, and within two weeks the vote will be completed, because the budget does not bear a delay and is short."

Earlier today, the Undersecretary of the Ministry of Planning, Maher Hammad Johan, said in a press statement, "The federal financial budget for the current year 2020 that the Ministry of Finance sent to the Council of Ministers last Wednesday is the same budget that was prepared earlier and contains an estimated financial deficit. With 80 trillion dinars, and it relied on a total amount estimated at 146 trillion dinars. "

Johan emphasized that "the budget has not undergone any change, and also contained the launch of bonuses and promotions for all employees," indicating that "the available job grades for retirement referrals have been added to the federal budget for 2021."

"The ministries of planning and oil, in addition to the Central Bank, the Customs Authority and the Public Debt Department, are currently reviewing the sums that could be supplied to the 2021 budget, which now lacks the existence of final figures," Johan said. https://baghdadtoday.news/ar/news/130117/المالية-النيابية-الموازن

Dave   Al-Kazemi prepares for the start of the major battle with the corrupt

Dave    BAGHDAD – Iraqi Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi has formed a special committee to investigate corruption files and major cases, directing to grant it exceptional powers, in the first indication of the prime minister’s intention to confront the big whales in his country.

Given the composition of the new committee, and the security authority that will carry out the tasks of chasing and arresting the corrupt, it seems that there is a real intention to target figures who may be from the first row.

Al-Kazemi assigned the human rights team, Ahmed Taha Hashem, who had previously served in high-ranking intelligence sites within the Ministry of Interior, to head the Special Investigations Committee. He is supported by a senior official in the intelligence service, provided that the Counter-Terrorism Service, led by General Abdel Wahhab Al-Saadi, who is popular after the defeat of ISIS, will take over the task of implementing judicial arrest warrants against wanted corrupt individuals, if issued.

Al-Kazemi strengthened the committee with representatives of other oversight and security agencies, while supporting it with a large number of employees.

According to the order that bore the signature of Al-Kazemi, the Special Investigation Committee has the right to summon any Iraqi to give his testimony, except for those who were actually accused in a fundamental way in a case that falls within the powers of this committee, as these are treated through the judiciary.

According to interpretations of experts in law and procedural issues, this committee can summon all former heads of the republic, government and parliament, along with all ministers, officials, employees, politicians, merchants and businessmen, who are not officially accused of corruption cases.

Dave   The committee also has the right to open any closed corruption file against any person, and to investigate former defendants who were acquitted, convicted, or are still under review, provided that judicial orders are issued to do so, to prevent interfering investigations.

The news of the announcement of the formation of this committee, especially its composition, sparked an enthusiastic reaction on social networking sites, where many bloggers saw that the actual war on the corrupt in Iraq had already begun.

General Al-Saadi, the commander of the US-armed counterterrorism service, is one of the main opponents of the pro-Iranian militias and politicians close to Tehran, and observers see his assignment of this type of mission as an indication of the approaching confrontation.

Professor of Political Science at Baghdad University Ihssan Al-Shammari believes that “mandating the Counter-Terrorism Service to implement decisions related to corruption cases is an indication of armed friction with leaders and mafias of corruption.”

Observers place this development in the context of urging the countries of the region and the world to urge Iraq to confront the militias loyal to Iran and to put an end to its dominance over the country’s political, security and economic decisions.

Political analyst Ahmed Al-Abyadh says that the zero hour seems to have approached a lot in Iraq, pointing to the link between these developments and the visit by French President Emmanuel Macron to Iraq.

Al-Abyadh added that the visit of the French President can be translated as “a mediator to convey the final warning to the militias.”

“Now the difficult test for Al-Kazemi’s seriousness has begun to impose the prestige of the state,” he explained.

Al-Kazemi’s government previously had contact with former Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, through one of his in-laws, when it issued a decision to freeze his properties after he exploited state property in an unorthodox manner.

Dave   Al-Maliki is among the most prominent targets that the angry Iraqi street demands to pursue, for causing a third of the country’s lands to fall at the hands of ISIS militants in the last year of his eight years of rule, in addition to his responsibility for the theft and squandering of about a thousand billion dollars between 2006 and 2014.

However, Al-Kazemi’s efforts in pursuing senior corrupt individuals are surrounded by many doubts, given the political immunity they enjoy, and most of them close ties to Tehran, which is able to move its armed militias inside Iraq to confuse the situation.

Therefore, observers suspend their expectations regarding the seriousness of any legal campaign to prosecute the corrupt to the extent of the readiness of the Iraqi armed forces for a direct confrontation with the Iranian militias that protect them, which could reveal in the next few months.

Arabs    الكاظمي يجهّز لانطلاق المعركة الكبرى مع الفاسدين

Dave   squandering of about a thousand billion dollars between 2006 and 2014.chump change

Dave   Wonder if maliki is going to run again?

Dave   Very popular too...like last time kept his seat....

butterfly   https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-06/trump-ended-2018-france-trip-having-art-loaded-on-air-force-one

butterfly   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL5PZFjkvSw

butterfly   The state of Oregon votes by mail, has for years. We in KY are voting by mail now because of the pandemic. Other states vote by mail-in. They say that is the safest way to vote. Machines can and have been hacked. Ivanka Trump has the trademarks on the voting machines. So it is a free country (so far) and people have to option to chose mail-in or machine voting.

Dave   Battle of the Masks.....

Butterfly   With the mail-in ballots, you can track your mail-in and see if it was counted.

Doug_W   mail in is great when teh voter requests it YES

Doug_W   not millions sent uhnsolicited NO

Butterfly   In Oregon, it is automatically sent to them.

Doug_W   so every registered voter gets one or they have to be requested?

Dave   Masked States Yes unmasked NO?

butterfly   There is a gentleman stating he hasn't lived in CA for 10 yrs and received a ballot. Question is, how the hell do you know that you received a ballot since you haven't lived in CA for 10 yrs. He posted it and it was slammed down that it was NOT even a ballot. There is so much crap being spread that people need to use their common sense.

butterfly   Doug_W My VN Vet in Oregon says that if you are a registered voter, no matter what party, an automatic ballot is sent to your latest residence.

Sheila   Maybe the people that live in that house actually know that man and let him know about the ballot?

Sheila   Plausible story yet could be false.

butterfly   10 yrs sheila?

Doug_W   butterfly ty 4 clarifying that 4 me

Sheila   Yes, 10 years. Maybe he just moved to another house in same community and they know each other. Yes, 10 years is plausible.

butterfly   If I did not make a request of sending my mail forward, then it is not the "new" resident's responsibility. When I get mail that does not belong to me, where do you think I put it? If you guessed File13, you are correct.

Dave   still get mail for folks that lived here 25 yrs ago

butterfly   No, he moved on the East Coast from the West Coast.

Sheila   There are communities out there. Have family member that moved bought house just 2 miles away from their previous property. New owner was coming by bringing them mail for 5 years. It is possible.

Sheila   They still might know each other and keep in contact.

Butterfly   West Coast MOVED to East Coast........thousands of miles away. You can try to resolve this in your mind, but he put something out that he said was the ballot..........it wasn't even a ballot.

butterfly   It wasn't even a "request" for a mail-in ballot.

Sheila   I do not know anything more than what you have brought here to chat. Just saying it is plausible that this man kept in touch with people who bought his house, regardless of the miles between. PLAUSIBLE!

butterfly   In CA you have to request for a mail-in, just like it is here in KY. In OR it is automatically sent to you.

butterfly   Have a great Holiday.

Sheila   butterfly You go out and enjoy the day! It is beautiful. Let your spirit be light today.

TWW   Interesting Vid, SDR & GOLD & other stuff. Hope thiz has not been posted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=55&v=w5ln3T2hjP4&feature=emb_logo

Sheila   @TWW Only question is when?

Sheila   @TWW great video

Sheila   TWW it was a good video, full of possibilities

Sheila   TWW Next couple of weeks should be extremely interesting - good and bad.

TWW   I emailed Mike & ask where found the link, he "Recaps" lololol dont know he read recaps...he said only once in a while...but now he views here too

TWW   sheila oh yes

Sheila   TWW whose Mike?

TWW   Mike is a gentleman that was in the military with my dad & both then served together in the WH. Mike is now in his 90' in FL but alert & sharp minded

  Sheila   one man's opinion - (9/6) Iraq RED HOT News   - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmrHK9_M830

TWW   sheila i will view it in a moment

Sheila   TWW no hurry, just posted it for anyone to consider his viewpoint.

TWW   sheila im already on it listening

Sheila   me too

Sheila  TWW all those news sources point to this month - September. guess Iraq will wait until the very minute to rv.

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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Saturday 9-5-20

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Saturday 9-5-20

Xyz   A Kurdistan Regional Government delegation will visit Baghdad tomorrow to resume talks

Shafaq News / A high-ranking delegation from the Kurdistan Regional Government headed by Qubad Talabani, Deputy Prime Minister of the region, is scheduled to visit tomorrow, Sunday, the capital, Baghdad, to resume talks with the federal government to resolve differences and outstanding issues between the two sides.

Talabani’s spokesman, Samir Hawrami, told Shafaq News that the delegation will visit Baghdad to complete dialogues with the federal government on the issue of the budget and financial dues for the region and confirm them in the draft budget law in 2021.

He added that the previous meetings were positive to reach a comprehensive agreement to resolve the differences between Erbil and Baghdad.

The provincial government delegation had previously made several visits to the capital, Baghdad, after the previous federal government headed by Adel Abdul Mahdi stopped financing the salaries of employees and workers in the public sector in Kurdistan .

The differences and outstanding issues between Erbil and Baghdad are based on the region’s share of the financial budgets, the entitlements of the Peshmerga forces, the export of oil, and the disputed areas covered by Article 140 of the permanent Iraqi constitution .

And on several occasions and times, the Kurdistan Regional Government has shown its willingness to deliver 250 thousand barrels of crude oil per day in exchange for the Iraqi government funding of employees' salaries by 450 billion Iraqi dinars per month.   LINK

Xyz     Iraq is moving to join global trade ... and an Arab country: We will facilitate its mission

Iraq opened the file for its accession to the World Trade Organization.

A statement by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, of which the Euphrates News Agency received a copy, stated, “ The Chargé d'Affairs, Minister Plenipotentiary {Abbas Kazem Obeid} met in Geneva the head of the working group on Iraq's accession to the World Trade Organization, Ambassador Omar Hilal / Permanent Representative of the Kingdom of Morocco to the United Nations in New York In the presence of the Director of the Accession Department at the World Trade Organization, Mrs. Maika Oshikawa, and her assistance at the headquarters of the organization. "

The two sides exchanged, according to the statement, " talking about ways to activate the file of Iraq's accession to the organization and the importance of continuing work in completing the technical documents to complete the requirements for accession and overcome the obstacles and challenges facing the accession process."

The statement indicated that "it was agreed to prepare training programs for the members of the national negotiating team, as well as discuss the importance of setting a new date for the high-level conference on Iraq's accession to the World Trade Organization , which was supposed to be held in Baghdad for the period 26-27 / 11/2019. " .

And last Thursday, Moroccan state television - Channel 1 - announced that Moroccan Ambassador Omar Hilal, head of the working group concerned with Iraq's accession to the World Trade Organization, held a series of meetings last week in Geneva with the parties participating in the World Trade Organization, in order to repeat Activating the file of integrating Iraq into this organization.

Xyz    On the other hand, identical sources clarified that these meetings follow a telephone conversation that Ambassador Omar Hilal held during the month of July with the Minister of Trade, Alaa Ahmed Hassan Al-Jubouri.

The same source added that during the aforementioned meeting, the two sides agreed to activate negotiations, with a view to speeding up the process of the Iraqi Republic’s accession to the World Trade Organization.

Here it is noteworthy that Ambassador Omar Hilal, Chairman of the Working Group on Iraq’s Accession, had a discussion with the Director General of the World Trade Organization, Roberto Azevedo, and held a working session with the Deputy Director General in charge of accession operations, Alan Wolf, as well as with Mika Oshikawa, Director of the Accession Operations Department, Wolff pledged to work to educate the countries of the World Trade Organization, in order to facilitate the process of joining Iraq.

On the other hand, according to a report by MAP, he highlighted that Ambassador Omar Hilal held bilateral meetings with ambassadors and permanent representatives in Geneva, and the main countries participating in this process, especially the European Union, Switzerland, Russia, China and Saudi Arabia, in their capacity as coordinator of the Arab Group He also had a fruitful phone conversation with the United States representative, who was in Washington.

The report also highlighted that the interlocutors of Moroccan Hilal were unanimous in expressing thanks and appreciation for Morocco's tireless efforts aimed at re-launching the process of Iraq's accession to the World Trade Organization, in the difficult context of the "Covid-19" epidemic.

Xyz   On the other hand, the aforementioned source added that the Moroccan diplomat held a virtual working session from Baghdad, with Adel Al-Masoudi, Director General of Foreign Economic Relations at the Ministry of Trade and head of the delegation in charge of negotiations, and this meeting constituted an occasion for the Iraqi side, in order to reaffirm his commitment to redouble efforts in order to prepare All documents required to join.

To this end, the Iraqi side requested technical assistance for the benefit of the various ministerial sectors concerned in order to form an effective negotiation team, capable of enabling Iraq to better negotiate its interests during this long and arduous process, and this virtual working session was completed by coordination meetings held with the mission. Al-Iraqiya, with Abbas Kazem Obeid, the Iraqi ambassador to Geneva.

In order to mobilize the necessary financial contributions for technical assistance, training and strengthening the capabilities required by the Iraqi authorities, Hilal held a virtual working session with representatives of the World Bank in Baghdad and Beirut, on the other hand, the head of the working group called in a meeting with the director of technical assistance for the mall International to strengthen technical support for the benefit of the Iraqi delegation.

The re-launch of the process of Iraq's accession to the World Trade Organization comes in a positive context, reinforced by encouraging signs following the formation of the new Iraqi government led by Mustafa Al-Kazemi, as the latter expressed his aspiration to open up to its regional and international surroundings.

Thus, Al-Kazemi aims to fight corruption, and to carry out many reforms in the country, especially at the level of the judicial system, as well as to implement the necessary economic transformation in order not to rely primarily on oil as a main source of Iraq's GNP, by focusing on diversifying his income through Promote the sectors o

Xyz   Thus, Al-Kazemi aims to fight corruption, and to carry out many reforms in the country, especially at the level of the judicial system, as well as to implement the necessary economic transformation in order not to rely primarily on oil as a main source of Iraq's GNP, by focusing on diversifying his income through Promote the sectors of agriculture, livestock, agricultural industries and trade.

On the eve of these preliminary discussions, led by Hilal Maghribi in Geneva, the World Bank published a report on the economic situation in Iraq.

This report stresses the importance of the country’s accession to the World Trade Organization, which will help complete many reforms, through binding international commitments, and enable Iraq to benefit from a multilateral trading system that is transparent, extrapolable, and based on rules.    LINK

Xyz   Parliament approves a deputy’s request to address a verbal question to the finance and planning ministers

(Baghdad: Where's News) The Presidency of the Council of Representatives agreed, on Saturday, to direct a parliamentary question to the Ministers of Finance and Planning about the reform program.

The media department of the council stated, in a press statement, that "the presidency agreed to MP Muhammad Sahib Al-Darraji's request to address an oral question to the Ministers of Finance and Planning."

The department added, "The question comes to answer the reasons for the failure to reach the reform paper stipulated in the recent lending law, and it will be answered in a session on Tuesday or Thursday."

It is noteworthy that the Iraqi Council of Representatives held, today, Saturday, the first session of its new legislative chapter, headed by Muhammad al-Halbousi and attended by 169 deputies.

The session’s agenda includes the completion of the House of Representatives election law, the first reading of the draft law amending the Federal Supreme Court’s law, the draft ministers ’and ministries’ law, in addition to the proposed Personal Status Law No. 188 of 1959 amendment law, and proposals for other laws and general issues will also be presented and discussed http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=99538

Xyz   Postponing the visit of the Kurdistan Regional Government delegation to Baghdad

Shafaq News / Samir Hawrami, spokesman for the Deputy Prime Minister of Kurdistan Region, Qubad Talabani said on Saturday that the visit of the regional government delegation to Baghdad has been postponed to the middle of this week .

Hawrami told Shafaq News that the visit of the regional government delegation headed by Talabani to Baghdad was postponed until Monday or Tuesday of this week .

He attributed the reason for the postponement to the failure to complete the agenda for the resumption of the talks, indicating that there are no other factors behind the postponement of the visit .

A high-ranking delegation from the regional government headed by Qubad Talabani, deputy prime minister of the region, was scheduled to visit the capital, Baghdad, tomorrow, Sunday, to resume discussions with the federal government to resolve differences    LINK

Xyz   A parliamentary committee calls for Al-Kazemi to reopen files sent to the Integrity Commission

On Saturday, the head of the Parliamentary Health Committee, Jawad Al-Mousawi, called on Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi to reopen the files of the committee sent to the Integrity Commission again and to address the commission to find out the reasons and the fact that it was not opened. http://rssiraq.com/news/لجنة-نيابية-تدعو-الكاظمي-لاعادة-فتح-مل/

Xyz   Parliament holds its first session in the new legislative term https://www.alrasheedmedia.com/2020/09/05/283537/

Xyz   Nuclear experts predict that Iran is now just 3.5 months away from the "breakout time," a measurement of how close the country is to having the technology and materials to construct a nuclear weapon. It also now has the fuel to potentially construct two separate bombs.

Xyz   https://freebeacon.com/national-security/iran-caught-stockpiling-enriched-uranium-needed-for-bomb/

Xyz   Tebow Here are 5 key things workers should know about the payroll tax deferral. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/02/here-are-5-key-things-workers-should-know-about-the-payroll-tax-deferral.html

Tebow   xyz how am I wrong? I didn't say it would have to be repaid! The money goes in to the general funds. There is no SSI money in an account!      Cnbc fake news, not a reliable source!

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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Thursday 9-3-20

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Thursday 9-3-20

Xyz   Al-Halbousi discusses with a Kurdish official the problems of Baghdad, Erbil and the upcoming elections

Speaker of Parliament, Muhammad al-Halbousi, discussed, on Thursday, with a Kurdish official the problems of Baghdad, Erbil and the upcoming elections.

A statement by Al-Halbousi's office, of which Mawazine News received a copy, stated that "Parliament Speaker Muhammad al-Halbousi received today the co-chair of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, Lahore Sheikh Genki."

The statement added, "The meeting discussed developments in the country, stressing the importance of continuing dialogue, and resolving the outstanding problems between the federal government and the regional government, according to the constitution."

He continued: "The meeting also discussed the issue of elections, and emphasized the need to complete all preparations for the upcoming elections." https://www.mawazin.net/Details.aspx?jimare=120936

Xyz    In the document .. Al-Kazemi makes several changes in economic positions

A document issued by the office of the Prime Minister, Mustafa Al-Kazemi, indicated the measures taken by the latter to transfer and name a number of personalities in economic positions in the state.

According to the document, the Prime Minister decided to transfer the services of Khaled Salah al-Din Murad, Director General of the Iraqi Fund for External Development to the position of Director General of the Public Debt Department in the Ministry, and decided to assign Mrs. Brian Abdul Salam Qasim al-Khafaf the duties of the Director General of the Iraqi Fund for External Development.

In addition to the transfer of the senior director from the economic department in the ministry, Rashad Khudair Waheed, to the Agricultural Cooperative Bank and assigning him the duties of the bank’s general manager, and Mrs. Najah Abbas Ali, Director General of the Insurance Bureau, was transferred to the Economic Department and assigned the duties of the Director General of the department.

In addition to assigning Hussein Ali Muheisen Al-Zubaidi, Assistant General Manager of Al-Rafidain Bank, with the duties of the General Manager. https://www.ikhnews.com/index.php?page=article&id=225505

Xyz  Parliamentary Finance: The 2021 budget will arrive in Parliament soon

https://www.almaalomah.com/2020/09/03/493167/

The Parliamentary Finance Committee confirmed, Thursday, that the draft federal budget law for 2021 will arrive in Parliament soon.

A member of the committee, Abdul Hadi Al-Saeedi, said to / the information /, that "the cabinet is now in the process of completing the provisions of the draft federal budget law for the year 2021," noting that "the budget will be different from previous years."

He added that "about 230 degrees and functional will be within the draft budget," indicating that "the Council of Ministers will send the project to the House of Representatives soon."

The Parliamentary Finance Committee revealed, earlier, that there are more than 240,000 job degrees within the draft federal budget law for 2021.

123789   Any new updates today? Are we any closer to RVing? Any GESARA news? Third day of QFS system supposedly live and working, any evidence to this? Is there anyone in the RV community that thinks ANY of these things are in the works?

Xyz   9-3-2020 Newshound/Intel Guru Mnt Goat Article: "IRAQ BRINGS IN $72.1M IN CUSTOMS REVENUE FOR AUGUST: FEDERAL CUSTOMS AUTHORITY" Al-Kazemi is getting these financial reforms in place and fianally they are working...

Sheila   One man's opinion - (9/3) You Decide! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlT_KRhZfFc

xyz  9-3-2020 Intel Guru MarkZ …just big anticipation that tonight starts the rollout somewhere between 11pm and 2 AM.

Xyz   Dinar guru Kaperoni said that revaluation of Iraqi dinar is not too far because everything is almost ready. http://www.iraqidinar123.com/revaluation-iraqi-dinar-far-kaperoni/

xyz   kaperoni: This chat will be an outline of the causes, reasons, and solutions for the delays pertaining to the revaluation of the New Iraqi Dinar. Today we will focus on "everything is now in motion" as it pertains to the pending revaluation https://www.dinarguru.com/dinar-guru-member-blog/guru-kaperoni-talks-iraqi-dinar-and-the-rv

Sheila  Kap's posting was from September 1, 2014

Sheila  And that second one is from 11-28-2011 Guru Kaperoni Chat "The Truth and Reality of the Iraqi Government Part III

Sheila    It would seem at one Mr. Kaperoni was quite the Iraqi Dinar guru.

Professor abp  Saw this and wanted to share:

A young couple moved into a new neighborhood.

The next morning while they were eating breakfast, the young woman saw her neighbor hanging the washing outside.

"That laundry is not very clean; she doesn’t know how to wash correctly. Perhaps she needs better laundry soap."

Her husband looked on, remaining silent.

Every time her neighbor hung her washing out to dry, the young woman made the same comments.

A month later, the woman was surprised to see a nice clean wash on the line and said to her husband, "Look, she’s finally learned how to wash correctly. I wonder who taught her this?"

The husband replied, "I got up early this morning and cleaned our windows."

And so it is with life… What we see when watching others depends on the clarity of the window through which we look.

So don’t be too quick to judge others, especially if your perspective of life is clouded by anger, jealousy, negativity or unfulfilled desires.

"Judging a person does not define who they are. It defines who you are."    — Jonathan Kestenbaum

Sandyf   Been a lot of focus on SWIFT, but then the US doesn't know much different. Europe moved off SWIFT and on to IBAN decades ago and the middle east have been following suit. Iraq adopted IBAN a few years back, an an event that was supposed to trigger the mythical RV. I have been moving money from UK(IBAN) to Thailand(SWIFT) in a matter of hours for 20 years, maybe it is time it was speeded up but not going to be a world changing event.

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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Wednesday 9-2-20

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Wednesday 9-2-20

Xyz   Barzani: The United Nations can help Baghdad and Erbil to turn the page on differences

Within a series of his meetings in Baghdad, the President of the Kurdistan Region, Nechirvan Barzani, met, on Wednesday afternoon, with the Special Representative of the Secretary-General of the United Nations in Iraq, Mrs. Jenin Blashart.

In a statement by the region’s presidency, Barzani and Blashardt discussed the political process and the situation in Iraq and the Kurdistan Region, pointing out that they shed light on the relations and dialogue between Erbil and Baghdad and the recent understanding between the two sides on the issue of the budget and salaries of Kurdistan Region employees. The statement noted that the latest developments regarding the outbreak of the Coronavirus epidemic and how to address it, the upcoming Iraqi elections, the election law, and the conditions of displaced and refugees in the Kurdistan Region camps were other axes in the meeting.

Barzani referred to the role of the United Nations team in Iraq that can help Erbil and Baghdad to urge them to conduct a serious dialogue for a radical and final solution to the problems on the basis of the constitution, highlighting the report of the representative of the Secretary-General of the United Nations in Iraq, which she submitted to the UN Security Council on the importance of implementing the constitution and order Federal (federal) in Iraq http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=99388

xyz   Al-Kazemi nominates his advisor for the post of governor of the Central Bank and a deputy, reveals: a suspicious figure

On Wednesday, a member of the Parliamentary Integrity Committee, Alia Nassif, considered the nomination of the Prime Minister’s advisor, Salem Chalabi, for the position of Central Bank Governor as an entrenchment of corruption, given that the information available to us is that he has suspicious links to a foreign country and possesses the nationality of that country. She advises Kazemi to withdraw the nomination.

Nassif said in a statement to "the information", that "the nomination of the advisor to the prime minister for the post of central bank governor came as a result of imposing this personality by a country of nationality that possesses its nationality."

She added that "Chalabi was a consultant in the government of Adel Abdul Mahdi and was excluded by Al-Kazemi due to indications of corruption against him. Then he returned to his post without knowing the reasons for his return, and this gave birth to our great doubts."

She explained that "the position of the governor of the central bank is an important sovereign position, and a professional and honest person must be named for this position and go to nominate the competing candidate, director of the legal department in the central bank, as he has full specifications to occupy the position." https://www.almaalomah.com/2020/09/02/492911/

Clydesdale   There is no Judy Fleming. The poster wrote Judy "/" Fleming. Judy is Judy Byington and is a mini dinar recaps and is posted pretty much daily there.. And she picks up Flemings' post which explains him.

Zig    Clydesdale : Uh oh...I invited her...would be interesting if she came....lol

Xyz   MP: Macron’s visit to Iraq will lead to international openness on all levels

The MP for the Patriotic Kurdistan Alliance, Almas Fadel, considered today, Wednesday, that the visit of French President Emmanuel Macron to Iraq will lead to international openness at all levels, while confirming that the visit comes to support the sovereignty of Iraq and this is also one of the important priorities for the meeting between Iraq and France.

Fadel told Al-Akhbariya, "There will be a joint statement by the Iraqi government and press conferences in this regard because the visit of French President Macron to Baghdad is part of the mutual international relations between the two countries, as well as the Iraqi international openness at all levels with all countries, arranging its priorities and the security, economic and political situation and its relations." Reciprocal, which must be based on mutual dealings and common interests. "

She added that "good dealing with all countries of the world is the basis of the international exchange known to it," noting that "all these visits will always be in the interest of the joint dialogue on the basis of supporting the Iraqi government, as President Macron previously stated that the reason for his visit is to support the economy and politics of Iraq."

Earlier, the President of the Republic, Barham Salih, held a press conference with French President Emmanuel at the Baghdad Palace, while Saleh stressed that the elimination of terrorism requires the support of friends and the international community, indicating that Iraq is looking forward to a pivotal role in the region, and we do not want it to be an arena To conflict. https://www.ikhnews.com/index.php?page=article&id=225485

Zig  Clydesdale : Are you optimistic about this now?

Clydesdale  Zig Somewhat with the visit from the Iraq admin but reading all the gurus BS and seems all have a "different" plan from their contacts does nothing to make me get too excited. If it happens, it happens but surely not holding my breath and putting zero trust in anything a guru says.

Zig  xyz : Thanks for posting news in here...we could use another Newshound in here...

xyz  Barzani to Kazemi: The Kurds are proud of their Iraq and are determined to work for the sovereignty of Iraq

Baghdad today - Baghdad 2-9-2020  The Prime Minister, Mustafa Al-Kazemi, received, on Wednesday (02 September 2020), the President of the Kurdistan region, Nechirvan Barzani, while the latter confirmed that the Kurds are proud of their Iraq and work for the sovereignty of Iraq.

A statement by the Prime Minister's Office, received (Baghdad today), said that "during the meeting, important files were discussed that would enhance integration and cooperation between state institutions in both the federal government and the regional government, within the framework of principles and work drawn up by the constitution."

He added, "The national efforts to combat the Corona pandemic, as well as the continuous efforts and coordination to combat ISIS sleeper cells, and pursue the remnants of terrorism that has no place on the land of Iraq, were addressed, as the importance of the role that the Peshmerga Regional Guard plays as an integral part of the security system was emphasized. Iraq. "

For his part, Barzani expressed, according to the statement, "his optimism about the steps taken to strengthen the mechanisms of joint action between the regional government and the federal government," stressing that "the Kurds are proud of their Iraq, and they are determined to continue working for the sake of Iraq's stability, security and sovereignty." 

Barzani affirmed, "The Kurdistan region's pride in the role that Iraq began to represent at the regional and international levels, and in light of the mutual visits at the highest levels between Iraq and friendly countries, and the basic understandings in the interest of Iraq, security and regional stability." https://baghdadtoday.news/news/129809/%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%B2%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A-%D9%84%D9%84%D9%83%D8%A7%D8%B8%D9%85%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%83%D8%B1%D8%AF-%D9%8A%D8%B9

Zig  Clydesdale : Do you think there is anything real about that "GCR" (Global Currency Reset) scenario that some think will happen in the near future, with countries going to asset-backed currencies, etc??

Clydesdale   Zig I'll believe it only when I see it. Lots of people have jumped on the Charlie Ward bandwagon but as I stated earlier, lots of people are just grasping at straws for someone to follow and he is the newest toy in d'land. I have watched a few of his videos and I think most of his ideas come from his guest and then later they become his own.

With the number of videos he is making and with the message being basically the same, plausible that he is addicted to the youtube money. as he has lots of subscribers. Same goes for the pimpy dude....... and even he and Charlie have teamed up on a few videos. Personally I think a GCR is needed but fear it is just the latest hopium being dosed at this time and a way to keep peoples' minds off the real prize we seek (as it may be awhile)

Zig   Clydesdale : Thanks for posting your views...hope you will participate more often in the future....

Sheila   France's Macron arrives at Iraqi presidential palace on first Baghdad visit | AFP -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYYakio2ghk

This is very good news. More countries wanting to do business with Iraq.

Spectra   Mandatory Flu Vaccines, Being Arrested For Anti-COVID FB Posts & Canada Now Using PreCrime... https://youtu.be/rSW9TWpQMP0

Spectra  Canada sounds like a terrible place to live...PREDICTIVE PROGRAMMING

LeLe  Zig have you heard Jamaica over on IQD?

TWW  It now sounds like everyone here today uis of one accord. Thrash the wierdos!! Nice place ZIG :)

Sheila  TWW I read messages not caring about messengers. Filter. Then move on.

TWW  sheila Well, mayb itz a good sign

Sheila  TWW You mean, France showing up in Iraq?

TWW  not really, Macrooni is just an *kisser, just kid at times but with no follow up

Sheila  TWW What I find amazing is how much energy is now being directed toward the dinar "community". Good, bad, indifferent. Like rats on cheese.

TWW  yes

Sheila     TWW Still about Macron. France would not be in Iraq to talk business unless they were relatively sure their investments would be well protected. Hitching a ride on the skirt tails of the USA signing MOU's.

TWW  I will bk in a few minutes, Mr Lin is on the from Taiwan

TWW  he will steal anything he can get his hands on including contracts

Sheila  One man's opinion: (9/2) The Iraqi Factor -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhpD7wUodtg

John Frank has stated   TWW question Iraq recently signed many international MOU’s / Contracts. Can Iraq make payments for these contracts in USD or only Dinar?

TWW  not shur do to all the MOU passing thru...its possible the dinar could b used..I kno POTUS wants them to use dinars vs the USD...we'll see...to stand alone with dinar or not. The reserve holds most foreign currencies I thing thats the 2% -- the dinar at this point is only 0.00084 to our dollar

TWW  France & other countries would be smart being paid with the IQD, then when the RI/RV happens, they'd get a lot of money back with the new exchange rate.

John Frank has stated   Iraq is not Art-8 yet, but they are required to follow Art-8 rules and guidelines (can only use dinar under Art-8). That’s why they’ve had to delay the reconstruction because they can only and it has to be internationally recognized!

TWW  i understand, then why did u ask for my thoughts

John Frank has stated    Many of the MOU’s on 8/20 were for reconstruction. Those MOU’s signed on 8/20 most likely have a 30 day execution period of 30 days.   that means RI on 9/20!!!!

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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Tuesday 9-1-20

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Tuesday 9-1-20

Xyz  Parliamentary Finance reveals the fate of state employees' salaries for the coming months https://aynaliraqnews.com/index.php?aa=news&id22=138025

The Parliamentary Finance Committee clarified, on Monday, the fate of employees ’salaries after the end of next September .

Committee member Abdul Hadi Al-Saeedi said that "the external and internal borrowing law voted by the House of Representatives will pass until the end of this year," noting that "the government has not yet gone towards external loan ."

He added that "the loan will continue until the end of the year, as the government has not used it fully, as a ceiling for loans has been set at $ 5 billion and this cannot be exceeded," noting that "the revenue generated from oil is not sufficient to meet salaries ."

And the Parliamentary Finance Committee confirmed, earlier, that the general budget for 2020 will be brief and will focus on the operational side, while it indicated that the next budget will be different.

Zig  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD1oizg6T2c&lc=Ugx9UcLCCLZdY39LYvN4AaABAg by Jeff (Dinar Investor)

Spectra   The Vast Majority of Positive COVID Results Should Have Been Negative https://youtu.be/gzxKUaKJOts

Spectra   One America News Network   829K subscribers

Sheila  From Dinar Investor: (9/1)) RI Date?-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRh3pmnNVv0

Tebow  9/20/20?

sheila   Here's hoping: (9/1) Key Point -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOBVdy1OviU

Sheila   Another one from Dinar Investor: (9/1) An effective return to Iraq internationally needs a comprehensive political consensus -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7D9gq0nCwk

Sheila  Is this for real? The Quantum Financial System (QFS) -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN6gTF2Sum0

Zig  Since Jeff (Dinar Investor) has been mentioned often, here is his Youtube Channel where you can access all of his videos, etc. if you wish https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe_hv6JGHCdoh6Z-mN2-Nvw/featured

sheila  Zig his videos appear to have basis in facts and sources. hoping they are all right one fine day.

Zig  sheila : Someone will be RIGHT someday....the question is: Who will that "someone" be??

xyz   Zig Z will be right!!!!

Sheila   Zig forget right - want to be happy living in financial comfort

Xyz  Iraq is heading to approve an investment budget for three years

Money  and business  The reporter of the Parliamentary Finance Committee, Ahmed Al-Saffar, revealed, on Tuesday, details of the 2021 budget, indicating that what is new in the general budget is the part of the investment budget, which will be over three years. The committee’s rapporteur continued, “What is new in the general budget is related to the investment budget, which will be over three years and the sums will be divided over it,” adding that “no project is being completed in one year, so an investment budget will be allocated for three years divided into years, and this is what It is called annual budget performance, and changes are expected in the budget structure and in matters related to the operational and investment side.

Al-Saffar said in a press interview that "Al-Eqtisad News" reviewed, that "the Council holds its sessions intensively and on a daily basis to compensate for what has been missed due to the disruption due to the circumstances of the Corona pandemic," adding that "the specialized committee in the General Budget Department at the Ministry of Finance has begun preparing the draft budget for 2021, and from It will definitely be completed by the end of this year. "

He noted the completion of the 2021 draft budget, which will be necessary to put the government's financial disposal in a legal framework.

He indicated that "the current year is nearing completion, and the 2020 budget project, which will be sent for approval in the House of Representatives, will be based on the operational side and not on the investment, because no budget has been issued for the allocation of investment funds, and there are no projects that can be implemented during the remaining four months of the year. The sums that were disbursed from 1-1 to the ninth month, and the rest of them will be speculative in terms of spending and revenues. "

xyz  And Abizaid Al-Saffar, as for the sums that will be estimated for investment according to the 2020 budget, it may be added to the investment budget for 2021 https://economy-news.net/content.php?id=21676

Spectra  CDC Report 22 Aug: Pandemic Is Over ??? https://youtu.be/dOlFm-ikPJQ

Spectra  And no one is reporting on this

Xyz  Spectra citing YouTube is laughable jejeje

Sheila   Where should our sources be from to be deemed credible and have integrity?

Zig  sheila : In the "Internet Age" that is hard to determine...so much crap online...anyone can post anything...make any video, etc....

Dave  CDC says pandemic done?........

Dave  "leaders need to be Hung"........?

Sheila  .... out to dry?

Dave  wet behind ears.....Shelia

Dave  5 G killing people not Covid......?

Dave  electomagnetic weapons.....world wide

123789     Judy/Fleming had theorized that today, Sept 1 we could see the RV start, emails/800#s, the banks off SWIFT system and several other big things to begin. Any thoughts on this?

Zig   123789 : Has this Judy Fleming been around long?...I stopped listening to people like that long ago but others might comment....Bring some of her stuff into the room if you wish....

123789    I'm not informed on how long she's been around but archives show many years of recycled rhetoric. I don't want to bring it here, as I no longer believe the info she provides.

Sheila  Not familiar with Judy Fleming

123789  This is what I was referencing, this is the posting today Judy Byington and her military contact Fleming: https://operationdisclosure1.blogspot.com/2020/09/restored-republic-via-gcr-as-of-sept-1.html

Dave  oops. https://youtu.be/dOlFm-ikPJQ

John Frank has stated t

When is the rate going to change and what are we waiting for?

John Frank has stated  Sheila I know you’re smart can you please tell me when the rates going to change and what we’re waiting for

John Frank has stated BOOM

Dave  30 sleeps away....or less

John Frank has stated Zig why don’t you tell us what the delays are and when the rate might change

Zig  John Frank has stated : If I knew that I would sell everything that I own and buy more Dinar....Nobody knows.....but of course I hope you and Sheila are right....we'll see....

Sheila  CORRECTION: IMHO - If it's true, the QFS was executed today, Sept 1, 2020. Then all the countries and financial entities have 30 days to be on board or left behind. After studying this today, have come to believe those countries and their banks and financial entities cannot do international trade without being on QFS - including Iraq. So between Sept 20 and Sept 30 would be the window for Iraq to go international. IMHO

Abp   I see we have another window for this to happen...

Zig  abp : I'm ready to be rich, Azbop!!.... :Happier:

abp  Zig Me too. I'm tired of working!

Sheila  IMHO - This window is based on news sources and MOU's signed on August 20, 2020. This window also based on the quiet execution of the QFS. Of course, CBI and Iraq could always execute their currency changes before September 20th. We can hope.

Abp   Why are posts being deleted?

 John Frank has stated ”Killing In the Name https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXazVhlyxQ

Zig   Hey I hope you peeps are right!!

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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Monday 8-31-20

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Monday 8-31-20

Spectra   The Best States to Live in and Move to (if You’re Contemplating a Mass Exodus from Your State)

Spectra   let’s face it, if there’s one thing that 2020 has made us re-evaluate, it’s where we are living. We saw states that we thought stood for freedom shut down, state governors sell out their residents and become total dictators, businesses forced to close, the muzzle replace several state flags, freedoms become restricted or altogether disappear, and legislators on a power trip use our inability to gather to their advantage — pushing through legislation that would otherwise never have passed.

Add to that the riots, “new normal,” ridiculous changes to our educational system, cancel culture, and covert infringements upon our second amendment rights and it’s no wonder all of us who are “woke” and see Covid19 “version 2.0” (coming to a fall near you) are wrestling with whether we should stay and fight or make it to better ground while we can.

Spectra  Ranking States from Best to Worst

If you’re confused about whether you should stay or leave your state, look no further than the first ever (best ever) list ranking states from best to worst using the criteria that are most important to parents who value their rights, freedoms, and a natural healthy lifestyle.

These criteria include: vaccine exemptions, homeschooling regulations, second amendment, political ideology (which tells you a lot about how a state is run and the type of agenda and policies you can expect to deal with), governor approval rating, covid19 response, personal reviews, and cost of living.

A large group was then polled to see how these criteria ranked in importance. Numbers from 1 to 10 (with 10 being the best) were ascribed to the chosen criteria for each state, and then the automated spreadsheet ranked states first via their raw score and then via importance.

For example, people polled stated that the second amendment was super important to them, so a state could score high in every area, but if it scored a “2” under the second amendment category, it was going to drop in the rankings. Make sense?

Spectra   Under each state, you’ll see the big pros and cons, as well as the “raw score” where you can look and see how each criteria scored, which may help you in choosing a state that ranks highly in the areas that are most important to you.

If you’re wondering whether you should stay or go, where you can find your people, or where you’ll be able to safely weather out whatever crazy conspiracy deep state plot is going on behind the scenes to remove your freedoms, this list is for you.

Spectra   Many people are moving due to this insane ideology

https://www.livingwhole.org/best-states-to-live-in-and-move-to/?fbclid=IwAR2B5m74MxaCvH10jwjyNjI3PpXuTL2t0b2A66a9qysRxQxD2cMYlRc_Jso

Zig    Spectra : Or live on your yacht after you get rich

Spectra   but then you wil be living on maritime law ..

Spectra   Big Shift Coming! Cashierless Stores Popping Up at Gas Stations, Stadiums and Even Dunkin'-Pretty soon you might find Amazon Go-like concepts just about everywhere.

Mastercard on Friday said it's joining the effort to create more of these kinds of cashierless stores, unveiling a platform it calls Shop Anywhere. It teamed up with retail tech company Accel Robotics to create a handful of new test concepts that let customers check into a store, grab what they want and walk out.

Spectra  https://www.cnet.com/news/cashierless-stores-are-popping-up-at-gas-stations-stadiums-and-even-dunkin/

Spectra   New wORLD oRDER   OR Nephilim world order lol

Stephen   So been around a long time. Since Steve Irwin passed away (PEOPLES DINAR)...Crazy roller coaster ride . My first post in a couple years. Even listen to FRANK sometimes. Seems pretty well organized with his peeps. Kinda like his eccentricities. Anything to get away from Mtn Goat, talk about pot calling kettle black, glad I ain't married to her or whatever that denomination is, lol. Well thanks for the room and some place to vent. I first bought from TD Bank way back in 05 I think it was. Gave most of it away as gift already. So to say hello from NH'   Hello

John Frank has stated  KIM CLEMENT PROPHECY ABOUT DINAR: KIM CLEMENT:  This is for you.

The tide is turning for you.  Very strange thing shall happen in September.  Watch how the rain comes to America.  Watch how the rain comes to my kingdom.  For God says beginning in September I’ll turn everything around.  And my people shall see an intervention of a kind that they have never seen before.

Tebow  Dinar Investor - Baghdad: Al Furat News Proposed 3 year budget with Kurds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOosWe4IQfE

Sheila  One man's opinion: (8/30) OMG THE LAST DELAY! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOosWe4IQfE

Sheila  Baltic Dry Index https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/BDIY:IND

John Frank has stated   yesterday a wreck announced they’re going to approve a three-year budget that means the rate will stay in the same range for that period of three years.

John Frank has stated  Do you guys think that’s a one dollar range or three dollar range for the next three years. Remember they do have to hit the ground running to play catch-up because the value of oil has been down.

xyz  8-31-2020 Newshound Guru Hammerman There are still some who believe a significant overnight RV is possible. I have two articles that contradict the possibility of that ever happening...Iraq's net worth is only $16 trillion dollars.

xyz  8-31-2020 Guest Guru Austin-Powers-For-PM ...I believe September will be an unbelievable month for all of us. What that looks like or how that will happen is yet to be seen...

Sheila  Question: If it doesn't happen like flipping a switch from program rate to international market rate, then how will it happen?

Spectra  Economy pevails.

Sheila  I worked a while doing software updates. When we loaded those updates, they were instantly seen across the system (less than 6 seconds). Or are you just really talking about rates?

Spectra  FANTASTIC 'tell us more

Sheila  Nothing more to tell. I am wondering how all these people say it won't happen "overnight" (or instantly). Then how will it happen?

Spectra  Then Let them explain . Thus for me I've seen to many years of this.  The speculation game is over for me

Sheila  cracks in a dam - time and pressure. law of physics cannot be denied. lolol

Sheila  Is this goodbye?

Spectra  goodbye as what do you mean? I was just saying i have nothing to actually add in as far as the conversation regarding the dinar.

Spectra  just wait someone will jump in

Sheila  okay, misunderstood your comment

Spectra  no problem

Tebow  How can they Iraq change wages, prices for goods, contracts, on a daily ever changing gradual rate change.

Sheila  https://www.nytimes.com/1991/03/25/world/after-the-war-no-electricity-but-kuwait-reopens-its-banks.html

Spectra  My husband was in Iraq .Yes that did happen..The sudden change back to what it was

UNEEK  sheila Spectra Good Morning - I really do not have any verifiable intel but I still CHOOSE to be here and read all that is made available and watch and hope - simple -

Sheila  Me, too. hopeful. happy to be alive. each day is good day.  free will

Spectra  yes everyday is one to value

UNEEK  I will say it does kinda bother me to hear all the bashing from those who never read anything or contribute anything

Spectra   I use too post ton's of Articles..in the other chat room but few people read...Now i let other people

Sheila  agree. free speech - even the bad stuff. pendulum swings both ways. good and bad.

Spectra  Yes but we are loosing that free speech as we speak we already have on the internet..

sheila  guess we have to get wise and find those loop holes.

Spectra   or stand up to it\and fight for those freedoms 

Spectra  That is what i believe is needed..complacency kills, look at the German people ...They went through much similar things like us as far as the economy! Then look at how desperate they got.They went along with all the horrible things H did because they were afraid and complacent .

Spectra   (((Dinar Dinar Dinar)))) i wonder how many are really worthy of such a great fortune if it was to change for the better? They speak of doing great things with this overnight sensation...Yet how many do great things now? Why wait ?

Spectra   Gifts of Love and Caring do not always cost you money.You can do great things and they pnly cost you your time...Too many fake people in the world . Especially in this community.Yes there are decent people but not all.

Sheila  One man's opinion: (8/30) IRAQ DINAR: THE TRUTH -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jtsmCV8eaw

Spectra   sheila What i know about my own personal exsperiences with the dinar ..I will tell .Many people know my story  I can tell 1 thing My husband had a inside tip  tHAT IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW

Sheila  Spectra wonderful for you. now it's just about the waiting.

Spectra  waiting ? sure.i guess there is no other thing you can do..Have fun waiting  ive waited since 2003

xyz  Erbil confirms its readiness to conduct the census and sets a condition regarding the disputed areas

An official at the Ministry of Planning of the Kurdistan government confirmed, Monday (August 31, 2020) that the region is ready to conduct a census, while setting a condition regarding the disputed areas between the governments of Baghdad and Erbil.

The Director General of Statistics at the Ministry, Sirwan Muhammad, said in an interview with (Baghdad Today). That "the time is not suitable for conducting a general census of the population in Iraq."

He added, "We have continuous communication and discussions with the Federal Ministry of Planning, and on our part in the region, we have full preparations for conducting the census."

Muhammad explained, "The problem is in the disputed areas between Baghdad and Erbil, and these areas need to arrange the situation in terms of security and administration in order to ensure a transparent census and accurate numbers, so it is better to wait a little while until the conditions of these areas stabilize and the problems around them are resolved."

And the Minister of Planning, Khaled Battal Al-Najm, announced, earlier, that the Higher Authority for the General Population and Housing Census had submitted a recommendation to the Council of Ministers, to postpone the implementation date of the census, which was scheduled for November of this year, to the last quarter of next year 2021.

And the Ministry of Planning media stated in a statement received (Baghdad today) that the minister, during his presidency of the fourth meeting of the commission that was held last Sunday, said that “the recommendation to postpone the census came because of the exceptional circumstances that Iraq is going through, represented by the Corona pandemic and the financial crisis.”

The minister pointed out that "the High Authority for the Census decided to continue the preparation and preparation work for the

Sheila  thank you, I have and will continue. Just decided that's the way it's going to be for me. To each his own.

xyz  The minister pointed out that "the High Authority for the Census decided to continue the preparation and preparation work for the project, and to request the Ministry of Finance to secure the required financial allocations for the requirements of the census, which include securing tablets for the implementation of the census electronically, as well as training enumerators, and implementing the pilot census and the numbering and counting operations All the way to counting day link

https://baghdadtoday.news/ar/news/129610/%D8%A3%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D9%84-%D8%AA%D8%A4%D9%83%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%B9%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%87%D8%A7-%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AC

xyz  Washington unveils anticipated Iraqi-American "meetings" to deal with the trade and investment files

Policy

On Monday, the US ambassador to Baghdad, Matthew Toller, considered that Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi's visit to Washington had given great impetus to the relationship between the two countries, and while he confirmed that his country was ready to cooperate with Iraq regarding economic reform, he revealed upcoming Iraqi-American "meetings" that deal with trade and investment files.

Tueller said in a telephone interview with a number of media outlets, including Alsumaria News, "Al-Kazemi's meetings are in Washington It is an extension of what was held on June 11 hypothetically, and we believe that the fact of the meetings shows the seriousness of both countries about the strength of the relationship between them.

He added, "Unnatural challenges facing an economy Iraq Because of Corona and the economic crisis, especially that the Iraqi economy is centralized and unable to attract foreign investment, "noting that" Al-Kazemi and Iraqi officials have shown their vision for economic reform and America has shown its willingness to cooperate with Iraq In these efforts."

He continued," in addition to the encounters Washington There will be trade and investment meetings to improve the environment for foreign companies to invest in Iraq And we have signed an agreement for e-government, financial reform, expanding partnership in trade, and promoting and strengthening trade between the two countries. "

He expressed his hope that "the Iraqi parliament will not reject the signed agreements because they serve the common interests in the relationship between the two countries," adding that "the strategic framework agreement was ratified by the Iraqi parliament in 2008 and is in effect as a law and any agreements we make within this agreement, and we believe that everything we have done." At this stage, it is consistent with the spirit of the strategies

xyz  He expressed his hope that "the Iraqi parliament will not reject the signed agreements because they serve the common interests in the relationship between the two countries," adding that "the strategic framework agreement was ratified by the Iraqi parliament in 2008 and is in effect as a law and any agreements we make within this agreement, and we believe that everything we have done." At this stage, it is consistent with the spirit of the strategic agreement."   LINK

xyz  Corruption begins with the criminal Nouri al-Maliki .. Can you investigate him? Al-Kazemi forms a committee to combat corruption

Observers: Al-Kazemi’s problem is that he opens all files at once, and the movements are purely media. The problem of Prime Minister Mustafa al-Kazemi is that he is dispersed and does not want to focus on a single file to complete and present it to the Iraqi public opinion.

He wants to move in all files, and this is good, as the Iraqis say, but he needs governmental effort and decisions on the ground. It is not an informative appearance, opening all files at once and talking in them.

The Iraqis know their issues well, and are fully following them up in various websites, newspapers and forums .. However, the government’s role stands at the limits of action and implementation to eliminate problems.

During the last hours, Al-Kazemi announced the formation of a committee with wide powers to combat Al-Fasa, which is an incurable disease in Iraq and the cause of which is the men of Iran and Iran's militias.  LINK

Sheila  @xyz thank you for these articles. will take some time today to read.

Zig  xyz Thanks...Not enough people thank you for doing that...it does take time and effort to find and post articles....appreciate it..... :Yes:

Zig  "John Frank has stated t"......Yesterday Iraq announced they’re going to approve a three-year budget that means the rate will stay in the same range for that period of three years...

"Do you guys think that’s a one dollar range or three dollar range for the next three years? Remember they do have to hit the ground running to play catch-up because the value of oil has been down."

Zig  John Frank has stated : I would be thrilled with any rate over 25 cents....honestly.....

Sheila  Still waiting to hear from those adamant that this won't happen overnight. Please explain how they perceive revaluation of dinar forex trading rate will happen. Waiting.

Zig  sheila : I don't care HOW it happens, just that it does....lol  RV...RI...Float....WHATEVER

Sheila  Zig Agree.

xyz  Two delegations from the Kurdistan Regional Government arrive in Baghdad

Shafaq News / Samir Hawrami, spokesman for the Deputy Prime Minister of Kurdistan Region, Qubad Talabani announced on Sunday that a committee from the Ministry of Peshmerga has arrived in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad, to discuss two files.    LINK

Zig   FYI: This chat room stands alone...i.e. it is not located on any website which would automatically make it have more "traffic" and most likely more active, but not necessarily...That is because only about 5% of those who visit a chat will ever post...I know that from experience....It gets some exposure on Dinar Recaps and I posted about it at Dinar Daily....I have also sent out many emails about it....but my recruiting efforts are over....

Now it is pretty much up to you members as "word-of-mouth" is the best way to spread the word....I will no longer make posts encouraging LURKERS to participate as I have done in the past elsewhere...that never works....so it is what it is as the saying goes....

Dave   An IOATA of good news,,,,Kazemi reopening corruption files on all.......?

Spectra  CDC Says 94% of COVID Deaths Had Other Medical Issues, New Mask Health Study & Israel Attacks Syria

Spectra  https://youtu.be/gNqBWJ7LXFg

John Frank has stated Very accurate intel on the Iraq Dinar:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD1oizg6T2c&lc=Ugx9UcLCCLZdY39LYvN4AaABAg

Spectra  94% of Americans who died from COVID-19 had contributing conditions: CDC https://nypost.com/2020/08/31/94-of-americans-who-died-from-covid-19-had-contributing-conditions/

Spectra   Ninety-four percent of Americans who died from COVID-19 had other “types of health conditions and contributing causes” in addition to the virus, according to a new CDC report.

Using provisional data on coronavirus-related deaths from the week ending Feb. 1 through Aug. 22, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention concluded last week that “for 6 percent of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned.”

“For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death,” the report said.

Respiratory conditions such as influenza and pneumonia, respiratory failure and respiratory arrest, as well as circulatory conditions such as hypertensive diseases, cardiac arrest and heart

Spectra  failure are on the list.

Other conditions included sepsis, diabetes, renal failure and Alzheimer’s disease.

The counts are based on death certificates, which the agency called “the most reliable source of data.”

However, the provisional data is not yet complete, the counts are not final, and they should not be compared across states, the agency warned.

As of Monday, the US has surpassed 6 million coronavirus cases and 183,000 deaths, Johns Hopkins University statistics show.

Spectra  https://nypost.com/2020/08/31/94-of-americans-who-died-from-covid-19-had-contributing-conditions/

Spectra  https://fox4kc.com/news/new-cdc-report-shows-94-of-covid-19-deaths-in-us-had-underlying-medical-conditions/

Spectra   https://fox4kc.com/news/new-cdc-report-shows-94-of-covid-19-deaths-in-us-had-underlying-medical-conditions/

Spectra  :Whisling:

John Frank has stated  Very accurate intel on the Iraq Dinar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD1oizg6T2c&lc=Ugx9UcLCCLZdY39LYvN4AaABAg

xyz  Parliamentary Finance reveals the fate of state employees' salaries for the coming months https://aynaliraqnews.com/index.php?aa=news&id22=138025

The Parliamentary Finance Committee clarified, on Monday, the fate of employees ’salaries after the end of next September .

Committee member Abdul Hadi Al-Saeedi said that "the external and internal borrowing law voted by the House of Representatives will pass until the end of this year," noting that "the government has not yet gone towards external loan ."

He added that "the loan will continue until the end of the year, as the government has not used it fully, as a ceiling for loans has been set at $ 5 billion and this cannot be exceeded," noting that "the revenue generated from oil is not sufficient to meet salaries ."

And the Parliamentary Finance Committee confirmed, earlier, that the general budget for 2020 will be brief and will focus on the operational side, while it indicated that the next budget will be different.

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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Saturday 8-29-20

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Saturday 8-29-20

Zig  :Thanks Dinar Recaps https://dinarrecaps.com/our-blog

 Sheila  We wait. MOU's were signed on August 20, 2020. Waiting 30 days or less for the final contracts to be signed. To do that, there needs to be international rate. We wait.

Sheila   Zig Thank you Zig. I came into this chat to contribute good stuff, like facts, hope and respect. It would seem I am in the minority. Guess it's easier to spew negatives than positives. Will continue to be my true self. Do appreciate you keeping this chat open for a little more time. Well, just enough to see the revaluation/s executed. lolol

Zig  sheila : Well I suppose I should tell you that I do not think you will see any RV any time soon....I tend to agree with Kaperoni about a lot of things....believe it or not....though I do not like the way Kap treats people.....LOL....but I have kept my opinions to myself in here for the most part....I never criticize what someone else may think, etc...we all have our views.....

Sheila  Zig Define "soon" - days, weeks, months, years?

Zig  Have no idea...we all have different opinions...Have heard we are CLOSE for years.....

Sheila  My post on the MOU's was taken straight from internationally reported news . Then contracts are executed within certain time frames. That post was fact based. Not BS, guru stuff.

Zig  Many people I know have said that I was GULLIBLE for even buying Dinar....as they know that I have been scammed before in other stuff....a long list....lol

Sheila  Many people I know said I was bat crazy. lolol And many other people bought currency and still holding it. Those that thought I was crazy - well, maybe so, but I will be laughing all the way to the bank. Cracks in a dam - time and pressure - one day that dam breaks.

Sheila  Iraq would not have been meeting with Administration to sign MOU's unless there was forward movement in their economic and financial standings.

Zig  sheila : I admire your positivity and perseverance....

butterfly  Check out the Iraq Parliament. Hope, nope, they post the information and you wait with anticipation........but it never appears. Meetings good lord they have meetings all the time with NO conclusions.

Sheila  We watch and listen because we are looking for signs like an olive branch. Believe it's out there, we just cannot see it - yet.

123789 @butterfly....so with all the blatant misleading info...what makes you think it will happen. Lots of intel saying it won't happen and not possible. What makes you "old timers" still believe? Honestly?

Sheila  butterfly I like to watch anything that points to banking and financials. Always follow the money.

123789 After people tell me a lies more than a couple times, I tend to not believe anything they say from then on...they have zero credibility in my book.  Ok, sorry for the negativity...I got it all out. Thanks for leading the way guys...Hope you are all right about this. Have a thoughtful day.

Sheila  Had a friend many years ago that worked for doctors on the psych ward at major hospital. She was taught on how to deal with aberrant violent behaviours. So she taught me a few things on how to handle encounters with public displays of illogical behaviours in the work place. Temper tantrums of co-workers who didn't get their way. Workplace bullies, etc. What she taught me does work - even in chat rooms. lolol

Sheila  @123789 We all have days where we question why are we here. We are here because we want financial comfort. True financial freedom from worry of how we will survive and provide. I have my days. This is not one of them.

butterfly  123789 Got caught up in the drama. Bought the dinar. Have put it away and I was wondering the other day, where did I actually put all that dinar I bought? I think I know, but it has not been a concern for me in years. I use to post thousands of articles in this other website for a friend. Now I am seeing "similar" articles being posted.

Sheila  butterfly effect

All of our choices matter. This speech by Andy Andrews is an amazing testiment to how we can positively or negatively effect those around us, even for genera...

Sheila  The Butterfly Effect by Andy Andrews -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo6fBAT8f-s

Sheila  eye on the prize

John Frank has stated  Let’s study our investment, research on the internet and try to find how much Dinar is remains inside the country of Iraq. That’s actually VERY IMPORTANT.

Dave  seems some people take Deenar stuff very seriously, some like myself invested what they could afford to loose......over 10 yrs with Kap shooting down any hope does get old.....esp when reminded constantly what idiots we are....

Dave  this not a speculative investment?   i just keep asking myself what Iraq has done to attract foreign investment...same old arguments between Kurds and Baghdad,still no money to pay salaries etc.No federal court laws as promised to root out corruption.......Read now that CBI is not autonomous,same 47 trillion in mattresses when it used to be 35 trillion yrs ago.CBI auctions been taking in 3-4 Trillion a month from auctions? GCR

Dave  hear about a GCR going to fix this.....How for Iraq?...still cant pay salaries...how could they sustain our dime.....My small city has more banks and Atms than the entire nation of Iraq?

Sheila  Dave Iraq just signed multiple MOU's last week while in Washington. Signed on August 20, 2020. Then 30 days to sign final contracts for economic, financial and infrastructure projects. White Papers signed off when they did MOU's.

Dave  sheila MOU's........fer yrs and yrs still no hydro?

Sheila  Would not hydro come under infrastructure?

Dave  yep  GE many MOUs fer yrs still no reliable npower   buy watts from Iran.......

Dave  Mou\s   through the wazooo

Sheila  Believe part of the agreements was getting Iraq to separate from Iran for electric.   White Papers

Dave  YRS and YRS. of MOu's...ask Doug

Dave  White papers.......TP_?

Sheila  Differences today, IMF told Iraq no more loans to bridge them on their budgets.

Dave  yeah grow up- guys enough is enough....sdupposed to be a wealthy nation

Dave  IMF not know Iraq is one of the most corrupt nations in the World Today?

Sheila  Pot meet kettle.

Dave  Strangely EU Canada Australia GOVT websites Still indicate UN CP7 sanctions

Sheila  All because currency still program rate.

Dave  SANCTIONS on banking

Sheila  All part of sanctions.

Dave  Private banking laws for foreign investment not yet ratified

Dave  thats some of the stuff id like to see happen in my opinion

Sheila  MOU's -- promissory notes, 30 days to execute or expire.

Dave  sheila Seen 100s if not 1000s of MOus    from Iraq   yadda yadda

Sheila  Could be these are it for actual progression to revaluation.

Dave  Protesters/demonstations new leaders,,,,,,now Corona....reprieve fer those corrupt politicians

Tebow  "Seen 100s if not 1000s of MOus', you've seen? OK Dave! :Funny:

Dave  sheila Would you invest in Iraq now?

Dave  Tebow Yes Tebow......100s

Sheila  If I could, would very much consider. With USA military in the mix for security and protection. Yes.

Dave  10 yrs of this easy

John Frank has stated Iraq has announced to us factually what the 2 delays were stopping Iraq from going international.

John Frank has stated  1: Kademi needed to form the Government. 2: Kurdistan & Baghdad must reach / Sign a comprehensive agreement. Then they can Change the rate.

Sheila  here, here - loving it!!!

John Frank has stated  Sheila knows, she’s seen it print.

John Frank has stated  Those were the 2 conditions that allowed American companies to invest 8 billion in Iraq 2 weeks. US companies only invested in Iraq on 8/20/20 be a they’ll be international on 9/20/20.

John Frank has stated 30 day Inrernational contracts / MOU’s. US companies signed contracts on 8/20/20 because they’ll mature on 9/20/20 = international status.

John Frank has stated Spectra your not smart enough to realize US companies signed agreements on 8/20/20 with Iraq because they’ll have a 30 mature period allowing them to go international on 9/20/20. That’s when Iraq will go international changing the rate.

Sheila  Or they can execute before the MOU's 30 days.

Dave  wowsers....we be rich in 20 sleeps!

Zig  Dave : :Yes:

Dave  Zig Iraqi Time...19 sleeps?

Sheila  Spent enough time in my younger days being negative. Positive works better in most situations. You know that old adage - catch more flies with honey, not vinegar.

Spectra  Not negative

Spectra  Like i said to the lady shiela ..Please show me that's all .When you open your self to throwing out sommething such as the rate change people should exspect that!

Spectra  When new people read this they dont need to be lured into spending money.People out there do your own research....I hope you seriously do!

Sheila  Generally, the videos I post have sources to support what they are saying.

Spectra  i mean it is your life BUT IM JUST DOING A THOUGHTFUL REMIDER OUT THERE.

Spectra  sheila Wonderful news.I have not seen your video's so i can not say.

Spectra  i try not speak in generalities my self.

Sheila  today was full of hope. on another chat there were couple experiences being shared. good day.

TWW  sheila here is the bad bad list:

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Sheila  Lynette Zang: The Currency Reset is Here -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I6Lg8nR0c0

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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Thursday 8-27-20

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Thursday 8-27-20

Zig  :Thanks Dinar Recaps https://dinarrecaps.com/our-blog

8/07/20 Dinar Perspective Roundtable Pre-Recorded Call With Pat & Bobby  1 hr 21 mins  Replay LINK 

8/26/20 Dinar Perspective Roundtable Pre-Recorded Call  1 hr 19 mins  Replay LINK 

xyz  ‘Corruption remains endemic’ in Iraq: UN rep

ERBIL, Kurdistan Region — The perpetuation of corruption in Iraq amongst a deepening economic crisis was emphasized by the Special Representative of the United Nations Secretary-General (SRSG) for Iraq at a Wednesday Security Council briefing.  “Corruption remains endemic, and its economic cost untold as it continues to steal desperately needed resources from the everyday Iraqi, eroding investor confidence,” said Jeanine Hennis-Plasschaert in her virtual address to the council.

The top UN representative to Iraq reports that poverty is trending upwards by over 10%, and that more than three million Iraqis cannot meet their food needs.

“Economic trouble is never far from humanitarian concerns. Iraq is expected to experience a 9.7% decline in GDP. Oil revenues, severely affected by a steep crash in oil prices, have nearly halved,” said Hennis-Plasschaert, demanding that the Iraqi political class allow for reforms to take hold.

The Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) was not spared from criticism in the SRSG’s address.

“In my briefing in May, I emphasized that, in the Kurdistan Region, as elsewhere in Iraq, transparency, fighting corruption, freedom of expression and fundamental reforms are of critical importance. I must repeat that message today,” she added.

Large protests have erupted in the Kurdistan Region in recent weeks, with demonstrators, predominantly in Sulaimani province, demanding their months-delayed civil sector pay from the government and denouncing a recently introduced wave of pay cuts to cope with the economic crisis gripping the Kurdistan Region and Iraq. https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/260820204

8/07/20 Dinar Perspective Roundtable Pre-Recorded Call With Pat & Bobby  1 hr 21 mins https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com/wall/recorded_audio?audioRecordingUrl=https%3A%2F%2Frs0002.freeconferencecall.com%2Fstorage%2FsgetHD%2FD9RMW%2FaHyxz  

8/26/20 Dinar Perspective Roundtable Pre-Recorded Call   1 hr 19 mins  https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com/wall/recorded_audio?audioRecordingUrl=https%3A%2F%2Frs0002.freeconferencecall.com%2Fstorage%2FsgetHD%2FD9RMW%2FaHZzI

  Xyz  The Central Bank warns a UAE bank

On Wednesday, the Central Bank of Iraq warned the "Abu Dhabi Islamic Bank" that contracts must be concluded with companies licensed by the bank, indicating that a commission will be imposed in the event of non-compliance.

The Central Bank said in a statement that "based on the decision of the board of directors and taken in its session numbered the number five hundred and ninety-six after one thousand, it was decided to approve the granting of Abu Dhabi Islamic Bank a final and final deadline until December 31 of 2020 to contract with companies licensed by this bank." .

He added, "Otherwise, a commission will be imposed on every movement that passes through the national exchange of 500 dinars, to be borne by your bank and not the customer."

The Central Bank of Iraq was established as an independent bank under its law issued on the sixth of March of the year 2004, as an independent body, and is responsible for maintaining price stability and implementing monetary policy, and supervises 10 commercial banks, 26 private banks, 16 Islamic banks, in addition to 19 foreign banks. About 6 financial institutions and 31 money transfer companies http://www.sotaliraq.com/2020/08/26/البنك-المركزي-ينذر-مصرفاً-إماراتياً/

Xyz  Deputy Speaker of the Iraqi Parliament: We hope to reach a strategic agreement between Erbil and Baghdad

Deputy Speaker of the Iraqi Parliament, Dr. Bashir Haddad, expressed his hope for a long-term strategic agreement between the Kurdistan Regional Government and the federal government, referring to a recent visit by a delegation from Erbil to Baghdad to complete the talks in this regard.

Dr. Bashir Haddad said: "A delegation from the Kurdistan Region will soon go to Baghdad, for dialogue on oil issues, the budget, border crossings and Article 140 of the constitution."

He added, "It is not clear at present whether the head of the Kurdistan Regional Government will personally go to Baghdad or not, but it is certain that the Kurdistan Regional Government’s delegation will head to Baghdad."

Bashir Haddad: Iraq is looking for support from NATO to stabilize the foundations of stability

The Deputy Speaker of the Iraqi Parliament explained, “What is important for us is that the two parties reach a long-term strategic agreement, on the condition that the Iraqi government adheres to the agreement and deals with it in accordance with the constitution and sends financial dues to the Kurdistan Region and applies the terms of the agreement as it is, and the Kurdistan Region must also abide by the agreement.” He applies it as it is, only then can a long-term strategic agreement be signed.

Dr. Bashir Haddad stated, "It is not logical that there is a new agreement every year, or for the region to enter into new negotiations with Baghdad whenever the Iraqi government changes," stressing that "this situation cannot continue, and we hope that there will be a long agreement." Duration within the framework of the constitution ». http://www.sotaliraq.com/2020/08/26/نائب-رئيس-البرلمان-العراقي-نأمل-في-الت/

xyz  Parliamentary Finance asks the government about the economic reform program

The Parliamentary Legal Committee telegramed to the government to ask it about the reason for the delay in sending the economic reform program despite the end of the prescribed period.

The head of the committee, Deputy Haitham al-Jubouri, wrote to the government in a document - (Al-Mada) obtained a copy of it: We refer you to the law of domestic and foreign borrowing to finance the fiscal deficit for the year 2020 No. (5) of 2020 that Article Seven obligated the introduction of the economic reform program within 60 days, and because the date The vote was on June 24, the legal period has passed, and this is a clear violation of the law.

The House of Representatives voted in its session held in the last quarter of last June, on the domestic and foreign borrowing law.

Article 1 / (a) of the law stipulates: A percentage of not less than 15% of the loans shall be allocated to be spent on investment projects and the development of regions, and priority is given to the governorates with less funding.

B: The ceiling of external borrowing is (5) billion dollars, and (15) trillion dinars of domestic borrowing, by authorizing the Minister of Finance to issue treasury transfers and bonds.

Article 7 of the law stipulates that: The Council of Ministers shall present a program for economic reform to the House of Representatives within a period not exceeding 60 days from the date of approval of this law.

While Article Eight stipulates that: This law will be in effect until the end of the fiscal year 2020 or until the approval of the Federal Budget Law, whichever is earlier. http://www.sotaliraq.com/2020/08/26/المالية-النيابية-تسأل-الحكومة-عن-برنا/

xyz  The Supreme Judicial Council participates in a meeting to discuss the evaluation of the legislative and institutional framework for the anti-corruption system http://www.sotaliraq.com/2020/08/25/مجلس-القضاء-الاعلى-يشارك-باجتماع-لمنا/

Zig  If a link takes you to the Arabic version and there is no "English" link on that page, simply copy the URL and google it....usually you will see a "translate" this page link in the first listing......

Xyz  8-26-2020 Intel Guru RayRen98 [Did Ray say what his text was about?] THE TEXT WAS FROM A BANK SOURCE - INDICATING "THIS WEEK" AS THEIR EXPECTED LAST WEEK WAITING TO EXCHANGE. TIME WILL TELL!!

Xyz  Fox News host Tucker Carlson says teen who shot protesters was ‘maintaining order’ https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-host-tucker-carlson-125000164.html

sheila  One man's opinion: (8/27) Iraq News https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrlzAUl6S1w

Zig  No offense intended to the so-called "Gurus" that I have recently invited to come here via their Youtube channels and emailing....I am a joker.....Love all of you peeps!   :hug: lol

Zig   This Chat can have a maximum of 1,000 registered members.....FYI....but if people register and never post I will eventually delete those....always can register again......

123789   @Zig...I think ppl want to have discussions about the RV and the details we hear daily. Once ppl see the three word bickering posts btwn 3ppl its a turn off. This new room needs to have thoughtful adult discussions about what we are all hoping for...the RV and our exchange.

123789   We read daily, through different channels, that the RV and Gesara are right around the corner...it will happen Tuesday..yada yada yada. Many folks are on the brink of eviction and other horrible life disruptions, so we all want to have this exchange . Lets all talk about this...what is real? What is utter BS?

123789   I for one want to either **** or get off the pot, this incessent kicking of the can is tiresome and makes disbelievers out of honest ppl who simply want security and a bit of piece of mind.

Doug_W  when / IF it happens we will all know almost instantly   that is my 2 cents

Zig   123789 : Discuss anything here that you wish....but always expect to get opposing views....hopefully respectful.....lol

123789   @Doug....We should discuss what we read every day. If it's all BS, which I kinda agree, than why are we all here. I am here bc I want to believe its true, but every day it's lost hope and I certainly am not one to believe any of the other "info" that surrounds this RV... I don't buy into the deep state cabal, rescued kids on cruise ships, celebrity arrests. So what info on these sites is real and what info is horsecrap?

123789   Heres an honest question for everyone: If the gurus like Judy and her Fleming Military guy, Bruce, MarkZ are putting out info/intel every day...do you think they believe it? Do you think they know the dates will pass with no new intel? Are they knowingly sending out bad intel? If so, what is their motivation? What do they get out of leading on eager honest folks? How can they still believe after years of false info?

123789    I know Bruce sells pills and presentations..so I see his angle...

123789   I'd be ashamed if I were wrong everyday and thousands of ppl were affected by my actions/words.

Zig  123789 : Yes, many of those people are making money from this....one way or another....so I would watch for that....some of it is obvious but some is not to most people.....

Zig   Some have monetized Youtube channels, etc....

123789  And why do so many folks just believe without questioning anything. They simply Trust the Plan...after years and years. At some point you stop believing the kid fell down the well.

123789  Desperation leads to blind faith

123789  Sorry for the ranting guys, best of luck to all. Hope someone posts here if/when the RV happens.

Doug_W  they will

Zig   123789 : Rant all you want here...and don't be a stranger....do what you want in here....not kidding about that....NO MODS....and mostly I am not here....this is rare for me today....

Justthefact!  Hows the RV coming? lol   :$$$: :$$$: :$$$:

Dave  Justthefact! Thought Iraq parliament still aint in session......fer months and months.....Still no art 140 hcl etc.......

Dave  private banking laws for foreign investors been passed yet.....?

Dave  Justthefact! you mention Iraq still ch7.......can they go global with their currency while under Ch7?

Zig   In case anyone does not know: "Justthefact" is KAPERONI

Justthefact!  Dave UN chapter 7 has nothing to do with IMF Article VIII which is needed for more acceptance internationally.

Dave  odd that sanctioned countries cant trade currency internationally

Dave  what would be the pupose of sanctions then?

Justthefact!  Iraq needs to meet the conditions of IMF Article VIII and then ask them to accept them into it so as the IMF says..." sends a positive message and a favorable business climate."

Justthefact!  Dave UN sanctions has nothing to do with monetary policy

Dave  so sanctioned countries can trade internationally.....?

Justthefact!  The dinar is already internationally recognized

Dave  go trade it on the Forex........NOT!

Dave  Banks wont touch it here

Justthefact!  Just not accepted or convertible by most financial institutions because the Iraqi banking system is not in Article VIII

Justthefact!  Dave That is because the financial system in Iraq, not the dinar

Justthefact!  There is no trust in Iraq as long as they sit in Article XIV

Dave  but INTERNATIONALLY recognized.....just not traded OK.....

Xyz   9 arrested after 'suspicious vehicles with out-of-state plates' stopped on 4th night of protests in Kenosha https://www.fox6now.com/news/9-arrested-after-suspicious-vehicles-with-out-of-state-plates-stopped-on-4th-night-of-protests-in-kenosha

Xyz  8-27-2020 Newshound/Intel Guru Mnt Goat I am told to expect details on the rollout of the lower denominations sometime in October with the rollout in late November thru December. If this does not happen it will be delayed further. This news tells me that they plan to complete the project to delete the zeros late this year, but will not move to the global markets on FOREX with the currency until very early next year 2021. They are still currently under OFAC sanctions. My contact sees things maybe changing as a result of Al-Kazemi’s visit to the US this week.

Sheila  @TWW been busy?

xyz  Spectra Tell me in my face. What were trying to prove in the morning?

TWW  sheila oh yes...did u read my email I sent u

Sheila  @TWW been away from laptop. just read email. thank you.

TWW  did it sound familiar

TWW  They all have their own Time table but r now talking abt it thanx to the UAE

Sheila  come one, come all

TWW  yeppers

Sheila  middle east time table is like watching grass grow.

TWW  Im not a complete fraud as say here, when Im in the know, Im in the know just cant share some thingz

Sheila  face value until proven otherwise is how I operate

Sheila  Mind is like parachute. Neither one helps you in any way unless it's open.

TWW  :Smile:

Sheila  just want more financial comfort than what I have at this moment.

TWW  the big confort is our way

TWW  *coming

Sheila  hope so. help myself. help family, friends with medical situations. help strangers anonymously.

TWW  but all needs some help. only many peeps want to known due to pride

Sheila  I need no accolades when helping people. Doing that now. Will continue to help, just on larger scale.

TWW  it i wonder how many dinarians will help the needy when thizbreak thru. Or will they b like many lotto owiners will b broke in the matter of yrs

Sheila  I have gained so much peace in my life the last 20 years or so. Many will suffer lottery syndrome. Hungry soul. Lack contentment. Money will go almost as fast as it came.

TWW  selfish people agree

Sheila  spend slow, spend smart

TWW  invest smart, beware

Sheila  spend my money's money before touching principle

Sheila  (8/27) EXCELLENT NEWS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYrmX5fK4hA

Justthefact!  sheila You need to educate yourself there is no RV. No possible cannot happen not how monetary policy works. Might as well believe Santa is coming. Just guru nonsense.

Sheila  Justthefact! You need to find someone else to pick on cause I am not listening to you. You lack background in socio-economic history pertaining to currency values throughout war-time cycles. Get some learning from this perspective. And quit stamping your feet like a child throwing a temper tantrum. It's quite boring. lolol lolol

Justthefact!  sheila socio-economic history? lol How about 42 trillion? That is basic math! There cannot ever be a significant RV of the dinar.

John Frank has stated   Kuwait Devalued & ReInstated both in One Night.

Justthefact!   John Frank has stated   I disagree that they did that..but even if I am wrong, Kuwait never had 42 trillion in circulation.

sheila  Justthefact! I will be quietly laughing on my way to the bank. Have a great life!!!

Sheila  Justthefact! I do not accept your words. They stay with you. Your words are a reflection of your true self. Again, have a great life!

John Frank has stated   As 5 to 8 Trillion Dinar in the country rest is Unrecognized outside of the country ignorant moron

Justthefact!  All you need to do is google Kuwait and the central bank to learn they never had that much currency.

John Frank has stated  Rec only has 5 to 8,000,000,000,000 Dinar inside the country and the rest is outside of the country to be used and applied for basil three compliant you dumb ass

John Frank has stated   Iraq only has 5 to 8 TrillionDinar within their country and the rest is outside the country to be used for basil three complaints you dumb ass

Justthefact!  sheila It is easy to try and turn it on me. But I am just the messenger. The facts don't lie. If you read the documents you would know the truth and you would not blame me.

Justthefact!  John Frank has stated Show me proof they RV in Kuwait. Prove the money supply

Justthefact!  The truth hurts. You have been scamed

Justthefact!  Iraq has over 42 trillion in Iraq. That does not include what is outside the country. That is well documented

John Frank has stated   The money supply has nothing to do with the rate

Justthefact!  Its called chunky money.

John Frank has stated   The money supply just that it’s the amount of money physically in circulation has nothing to do with the right

TWW  Justthefact! U R wrong abt the RI Kuwait in the early spring of 1991...Was 05 cents & overnight went to #.48usd, I know that for a fact

TWW  * 3>48

John Frank has stated  Iraq only has 5 to 8 TrillionDinar within their country and the rest is outside the country to be used for basil three complaints

TWW  *3.48

TWW  sheila u know what Im talking abt from last week

Sheila  @TWW Yes

TWW  sheila The Open Society pays him very little to spread misinformation for him to go to chat rooms and to spread :Crap:

TWW   50usd weekly

Sheila  TWW petty cash yet enough to buy 1 million vietnamese dong. he is a closet foreign currency speculator!

TWW  sheila I think I bought for 75usd for a Million dong bk a few yrs ago

sheila  TWW That's why he does the chat trolling. To support his currency purchases.

sheila  TWW Never heard of The Open Society.

TWW  sheila Open Society is a foundation Soros owns & funds with

sheila  well, now we all know the RV is real

TWW    Thatz were he funds Antifa, Caravans at our boarder, USA riots & the DEMONRATS

WW  sheila how do u kno the RV is real now

sheila  Don't know about those connections. Just know if someone as powerful as Soros is trying to dissuade the masses from having foreign currency, then this is definitely real.

TWW  aaaa yes

TWW  I wish all countries would freeze his assets all over world starting their own countries first

Sheila  working from the ground up

TWW  sheila George Soros,[a] Hon FBA (born Schwartz György, August 12, 1930)[1][2] is a Hungarian-American[b] billionaire investor and philanthropist.[10][11] As of May 2020, he had a net worth of $8.3 billion,[12][13] having donated more than $32 billion to the Open Society Foundations.[14]

xyz  BUMMED OUT Melania Trump ‘refused to move to White House until the Obamas’ toilet had been ripped out & a new one installed’ https://www.the-sun.com/news/1379443/melania-trump-refused-white-house-move-obama-toilet/

sheila  I just remember the story I read about him breaking the Bank of London on currency trade (believe it was 1980's).

TWW  he done that through out the world

sheila  he has been busy

TWW  he is not allowed to return to his birth country of Hungry

8/07/20 Dinar Perspective Roundtable Pre-Recorded Call With Pat & Bobby  1 hr 21 mins LINK

8/26/20 Dinar Perspective Roundtable Pre-Recorded Call   1 hr 19 mins  LINK

Zig  GM As I posted yesterday, I have provided the materials and now it is up to the current and future members to do the sculpting  This Chat Room is 3 weeks old today, still too early to predict how it will go...but it is not up to me, it is up to you as I have no control over who participates here, etc....so if you like a chat with NO MODS and NO BANNING please participate....

Zig  I realize that it is very early in this "experiment" but I am already seeing things that I don't like...quite a few people have posted once or twice and then have disappeared...quite a few people have registered but have not posted....the chat room is showing early signs of becoming a small group chatting daily...I hate that...

If this trend continues into late October I probably will close the chat...and then open it again if something should occur in a positive way with the Dinar...I don't need to do this...wanted to try things MY WAY....Again, it is still early but trends are starting that I don't like....Just wanted to tell you this as you folks out there have the power to keep this going....Okay....later....Stay Safe!!!!....   :)

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