“It’s OK to say NO” From Dinar Recaps Archives
(Note: This Article can apply to Lotto-Winners, A Big Inheritance and Dinarians!)
This story appears in ESPN The Magazine's Dec. 8 Big Money Issue.
HERE'S A CHALLENGE: Imagine what it feels like to be 21 years old, extremely successful, famously wealthy, wildly stressed and unbearably miserable. How, you might wonder, can all those conditions exist simultaneously?
Start here, with Cowboys All-Pro offensive tackle Tyron Smith, talking to his mother on the phone one day in 2012, his second year in the NFL, during a time of growing tension between him
"We've found a house," Frankie Pinkney told her son.
(Note: This Article can apply to Lotto-Winners, A Big Inheritance and Dinarians!)
This story appears in ESPN The Magazine's Dec. 8 Big Money Issue.
HERE'S A CHALLENGE: Imagine what it feels like to be 21 years old, extremely successful, famously wealthy, wildly stressed and unbearably miserable. How, you might wonder, can all those conditions exist simultaneously?
Start here, with Cowboys All-Pro offensive tackle Tyron Smith, talking to his mother on the phone one day in 2012, his second year in the NFL, during a time of growing tension between him
"We've found a house," Frankie Pinkney told her son.
By this stage, wariness had become as intrinsic to Smith's identity as his brown eyes and bookcase shoulders. Silently, he awaited details. He had agreed to purchase a home in Southern California for his mother and stepfather. They would live in it; he would own it as an investment.
The agreed-upon budget was roughly $300,000, but over the course of the conversation, Frankie dropped the bomb. List price: more like $800,000.
Smith, now 23, is sitting at a polished wood table in the conference room of his lawyer's Dallas office. Surrounded by his girlfriend, accountant and lawyer, he fixes his eyes on a spot somewhere high on the floor-to-ceiling window. "Yeah, my parents wanted a house," Smith says. "But it was way bigger than mine and cost way more than mine."
It's not an easy topic for Smith to discuss -- recounting the conversation appears to be nearly as hard as being on the phone in the first place. He long ago gave up trying to pinpoint when it all went wrong, when the combination of family and money turned corrosive, when one ceased to exist without the other. He recites facts, stripped of emotion, as if determined to turn a painful time in his life into an after-action report.
"That call," he says. "That was the point where I said, 'That's enough.'"
At that precise moment, as he hung up the phone without giving his mother assent or encouragement, something hardened inside him. Reclaiming his finances, that was the easy part. Demystifying his new life -- being something other than a conduit for the wishes of those around him -- that was more complicated.
It works like this: We lack the linguistic dexterity to explain the myriad paths of young men who emerge from poverty -- or a simple lack of privilege -- and achieve riches by playing a game. When words fail us, a creation myth must fill the void, and so the modern professional athlete becomes our Sedna, a massive woman of Inuit legend who lives at the bottom of the ocean, controlling the underworld by providing fish to keep her people from going hungry.
Our version of Sedna frees himself from the streets -- the temptations, the poverty, the turbulent flow of every Bad Part of Town -- through a ceaseless, unquenchable devotion to his sport. Visions of The Escape accompany every rep on the bench press, every free throw in an empty gym. In short, his life is a series of made-in-Akron, Beats by Dre moments.
Yes, he will rise up to leave it all behind, but here's where the mythological sleight of hand appears: He'll bring it all with him too. He can't forget where he came from. The myth mandates loyalty and strikes down the ingrate.
And all those people who toiled alongside, those who believed in him and sheltered him and sacrificed for him? They'll also come along, for he's the sin-eater, absorbing all debts -- moral and financial -- so others can be absolved. And his people will never go hungry again.
Jeff Wilson His family's demands for money isn't an easy topic for Smith to discuss.
IT LONG AGO became easier for an athlete to subscribe to this myth than to defy it with his personal story. Easier to nod and smile and tacitly agree to be a benign receptacle for our society's need to bundle its fairy tales into color-coded boxes.
Why else would newly minted professional athletes -- and let's cut the pretense: It's nearly always young black athletes -- invariably be asked whether they've bought their mother a new house? Or a new car? Or both? Does anyone know whether Aaron Rodgers moved his stay-at-home mother and chiropractor father out of their Chico, California, home and into a beach mansion? Has anyone ever thought to ask?
But could it be possible, ever so slightly possible, that athletes who come from similar backgrounds can have wildly dissimilar stories?
Smith's story is best told chronologically. And it begins, as so many do, in a van filled with cleaning supplies rattling down a desolate highway somewhere in the Mojave Desert.
Smith spent much of his elementary school years working for the family business. Pinkney's Cleaning Service specialized in cleaning new buildings after construction was complete but before tenants moved in. Family members would often climb into that van, drive from their home in Moreno Valley, California, to Phoenix or Sacramento or anywhere in between, clean a building and then pile back into the van for a return drive that could last seven hours.
They'd pull into the driveway at 4 or 5 a.m., and Tyron and his five siblings -- a mixture of half brothers, half sisters, stepbrothers and stepsisters -- would be at school by 8.
Introspective and shy, bigger than his peers, Tyron felt detached, like an asset rather than a son, someone valued primarily for his ability to clean tall windows. The detachment might have been rooted in a moment he was too young to remember: the death of his father, Jerry Lee Smith, when Tyron was a year old. Tyron was told that Jerry Lee was murdered and that someone is in prison for the crime, assertions he's been unable to substantiate.
"Growing up, it's hard to feel separated," he says. "You don't know which direction to go. ... It got really complicated. I was the one who always asked, 'Can I get my own job? Can I do my own thing?' I didn't want to work in the janitorial business my whole life."
Smith doesn't remember watching football as a kid; he had neither the time nor the inclination. He was too big for Pop Warner, and besides, there were van rides to take and windows to reach. But he began to play in high school, and his size and natural ability immediately meshed with his work ethic. He didn't so much find football as it found him. He was huge and nimble, eventually reaching 6-foot-5 and 310 pounds, and by his junior year everyone had a pretty good idea where this was headed.
He was excused from janitorial work if he had a weekend camp to attend, and he remembers thinking, "It was a little weird they let me do my own thing." When he's asked if that created friction between him and his siblings, he says, "It probably did, but I never knew about it." It sounds like the first time this possibility has occurred to him.
Was this the beginning of Tyron's embrace of the myth? When he climbed into the van after Friday night games, heading for another empty building, did he close his eyes and dream of The Escape, when he could direct schools of fish to the surface and rid everyone of this burden?
"When I was out there, I was just enjoying playing," Smith says. "For me, playing a sport was my own space, away from reality. You don't have to worry about anything because you're out there, and you can just play freely."
He did it well enough to earn a scholarship to USC, and in his junior season, something shifted in the family dynamic. NFL decision makers began seeing Smith, with his 85-inch wingspan and sub-5.0 speed in the 40, as a potential first-round pick in the 2011 draft.
The conversation at home took on a sharper edge. Family members wondered how much he might get and what percentage of that they might get. There was talk of cars and houses and jewelry. "All of a sudden, people's perception of me started to change," Smith says.
As Leigh Costa, Smith's girlfriend, puts it, "He's always told me he felt like nobody ever really cared about him until coaches started saying, 'You could be really good.'"
HE PLAYED ALONG with the myth. Everyone else was, so what choice did he have? When he was chosen No. 9 in the draft, he was 20, the youngest player in the NFL. He signed a four-year, $12.5 million contract, bought his mom a Range Rover and vowed to pay off his parents' mortgage and retire the family's debts.
"I didn't think I owed them anything," Smith says. "I just really wanted to help out. I know how hard the struggle is, and growing up we always had to worry about debt. That was my thing: Use this money to pay off your house, pay your debt and be free of all that stuff."
Later, Smith discovered the money he provided wasn't used for those purposes. Asked how it was spent, Smith shrugs, betraying no emotion. "We don't know," he says.
A direct line could be drawn connecting that moment to the moment he hung up the phone because it marked the beginning of a gradual erosion of trust and control. His humanity vanished beneath a barrage of requests. He was no longer son or brother or friend. He began to feel like a human Santa list, robbed of his capacity to be generous.
"The things that were asked for as gifts shocked me," he says. "All I could think to say was, 'Hey, that sounds really expensive.'"
He paid for airline tickets so strangers and near strangers could accompany his parents to games in Dallas. He paid for game tickets (players get only two comps), parking and food. He paid for hotel rooms or let the guests stay in his home.
"Tyron deferred to the mom, who deferred to the stepdad, who had his own mindset on what he deserved and what he should get," says a family associate with knowledge of the situation. "Tyron's a great kid. He was young and overwhelmed."
And so he relented. The myth, after all, demanded he remember where he came from, and a sort of achiever's guilt took over. His family was still back in Moreno Valley, still doing the job he had worked so hard to avoid. He started to think: Maybe I don't deserve all this money. When his financial adviser would call for authorization to transfer funds to his family, he'd say, "Yeah, just transfer it over." They wore him down. Inside, it tore him up.
Studies indicate that 78 percent of NFL players are bankrupt within two years of retirement. How many of those bankruptcies can be attributed to the gradual erosion of control, the constant drip of family and friends asking for money and the unwillingness to confront it? John Schorsch, Smith's lawyer, estimates that the family received roughly $1 million from Tyron's accounts over one year.
"I'm not trying to be hurtful, but I'm not making this money so other people can live off it," Smith says. "You have to understand: This game doesn't last long at all."
AFTER HIS ROOKIE year, Smith was moved from right tackle to left, a huge promotion in an offensive lineman's world. When he texted his parents to tell them, the response he received did not convey joy or congratulations. Instead, it referenced his next contract and how it would be bigger now that he was playing a more valuable position. "It was hard to have a straight-up conversation," Smith says. "I love my family -- I do -- but I didn't love what they became."
A financial adviser who works with numerous professional athletes says, "As players get more, their families want to be paid more. People lose their humanity. We call some family members 'backup point guards' because that's how they believe they should be paid."
Smith's issues went beyond money. Costa, four years Smith's senior and a former account executive for a Dallas sports radio station, was caught in a story as old as time: She, the newcomer, brunette and pretty, was blamed for separating him from his family and controlling his life and finances. Members of his family allegedly made death threats against her. "I brought her into the middle of all this stuff," Smith says. "They bashed her any way possible, and she didn't do anything wrong."
After his mother's request for the $800,000 home, Smith made a last-ditch effort. He placed a call to Moreno Valley, saying, "I love you all, and you mean the world to me, but all this money stuff is stressing me out. Can we just have a great relationship?"
But the lines had been drawn. "We kept getting voice mails and emails threatening all kinds of things," Costa says. Smith and Costa enlisted Schorsch to handle the legal affairs.
They cut ties with Smith's financial adviser and made the myth-defying move of hiring Bill Saplicki, a Dallas accountant who was recommended to Costa and who works primarily with doctors and dentists and precisely one professional athlete.
In the summer of 2012, Schorsch filed to have a protective order placed against Smith's parents and siblings, prohibiting them from having contact with him. The event that precipitated the protective order occurred on June 16 when Smith's mother and stepfather confronted him publicly while he was working at a youth football camp at his alma mater, Rancho Verde High School in Moreno Valley.
"We did as little as possible to accomplish as much as possible," Schorsch says. And yet on the night of Saturday, Oct. 27, 2012, with Smith at the team hotel on the eve of a home game against the Giants, two of his sisters arrived unannounced at the home Smith shared with Costa in North Dallas.
The doorbell rang, and Costa looked through the glass in the door and froze.
"You need to let us in this house," one of them said.
"Why?" Costa answered. "You've made threats against my life. I don't know what you have on you right now, and your brother's not here."
Costa said she called the police after the women repeatedly said, "We're not leaving until you let us in." Three days later, on Tuesday afternoon, two of Smith's sisters were among three people who returned to the house. This time, Smith called 911 and police cited the women for disorderly conduct. A Dallas police report noted that Smith's sisters were there to "harass and torment ... in the pursuit of collecting financial gain."
Frankie Pinkney turned down an interview request. She directed questions to her manager, Mark Wayne, who runs an entertainment company with offices in Seattle and New York. Pinkney, according to Wayne's website, is part of a group attempting to sell a reality show called Football Moms.
"She's been painted as an extortionist to her own son, which is not true," Wayne says. "There's so much friction between her and her son. She loves her son with all her heart and wants to reunite. I don't think she's had a fair shake."
Wayne refused to elaborate, except to say, "The truth will come out. It's not for me to share; it's for Frankie. She took the heat for a lot of stuff. Her reputation has been damaged."
What is she waiting for? "She needs to heal," Wayne says. "A lot of healing needs to take place."
night loss to the Redskins on Oct. 27, Smith exhibits the second-day inertia of an NFL offensive lineman. It's quite a contrast. On game day, he's powerful and punishing, remarkably light on his feet -- like a dancing oak. Two days later, he lowers himself into his chair slowly, as if every vertebra moves independently. "My back -- ooh," he says, wincing. "Really stiff today."
Schorsch has a standard answer when questioned about Smith's financial responsibility to his family. "I am certain none of them ever took a hit for him," the attorney says. "None of them had to get a shot so they could get up and go to work. And they're not entitled to share in this. No matter what they did, they're not taking the risk."
That risk, short- and long-term, is significant. In his fourth year as a pro, Smith has already had a career longer than the NFL average according to the NFL Players Association. He has avoided serious injury but has had periodic ankle issues. Sedna might live forever, but an offensive tackle is not as lucky.
Smith is mellow, with the voice of a late-night DJ on a smooth-jazz station. He is almost allergic to attention; rather than speak to reporters, he sometimes stays in the training room after practice or games while a team employee delivers his clothes.
He plays with a composed, almost detached air, like a man at peace with the violence of his profession. (During a game in late October, however, he did trade punches with Giants defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul.) His ability is unquestioned:
He is widely considered one of the top three offensive tackles in the game, and for his play against the Seahawks in Week 6, he became the first offensive lineman in 10 years to be named offensive player of the week.
He treats money the way most people treat a gym membership: It's there, and he'll use it if he needs it. In July, he signed an eight-year extension, making his contract now worth a potential $109 million, with $22.1 million of that guaranteed.
Many in the business felt the deal was too team-friendly -- Pro Football Talk called it "nuts" -- because it leaves one of the league's brightest young stars with no bargaining power for an entire decade.
But the criticism fails to account for Smith's loyalty to Jerry Jones and the Cowboys, whose security team has assisted Smith and Costa and was once called on to remove one of Smith's brothers from the team's training camp in Oxnard, California.
Smith, who drives a Jeep he gets as part of an endorsement deal, values stability
and craves normalcy. When he goes out to a four-star restaurant for a weekly dinner with Cowboys offensive linemen, they tease him for wearing clothes Leigh has chosen.
"I have no style whatsoever," he says, holding his hands out to show off his workout shirt, sweats and shower shoes. "The guys know I don't dress myself. I wish it was like the early '90s, when you could wear jumpsuits."
When Costa asks him if he likes something -- whether it's a couch or a shirt or a toaster -- he answers her question with a question. To demonstrate, Smith holds a coffee cup over the table and says, "It could be something as cheap as this mug, and my first question is, 'How much does it cost?'"
"You're very conservative," Saplicki says.
No," Smith corrects. "Cheap."
"I know the amount of money I make in the NFL could be over any day," Smith says. "It has to be put aside for me later down the line or for when I have a family."
Listen to Smith long enough and you'll pick up a pattern: He repeatedly uses the word "work" to describe what he does. He says it so often, it begins to feel intentional, or maybe it's a reflexive response to the weight of his success.
The distance between the word "work" and the word "play" is immense: He plays football for a living, while the nonsports world -- the janitorial world, for one -- goes to work. "I saw the daily struggle," he says. "It taught you to live within your means and know what it means to actually earn a dollar."
The demystified truth is this: He suits up for the Cowboys not because he loves football necessarily; he's playing because he's darn good at it. For the love of the gameis largely an external phenomenon anyway, promoted by those who link generational bonding and the passage of time to a particular uniform.
No matter how much it gets sexed up -- and in Dallas, in Jerry's world, they do their best -- there is nothing romantic about slamming your massive body into another massive body as a way of making a living. It's exactly what Smith says it is -- work -- and he speculates that half the players in any NFL locker room would walk away from the game if they were offered the same pay to do something else.
Is that heretical? Or is that how myths die and reality survives?
Understand this: Smith wasn't eager to talk. Things are quiet, the way he likes them. The stress is gone. He can go home and hang out with his rescue dogs -- he and Costa have five, including a 110-pound French mastiff named Beast -- and not worry about the next phone call or knock on the door.
But he knows his story is important. When he finishes playing, he's got an idea to travel the country telling it to top college players. He wants them to know that he said no and they can too. He wants them to know it's OK to stand up to the pressures from family and friends. He wants them to take control of their money and understand how long it has to last.
"It's so personal, and nobody really talks about it," Smith says. "'Hey, this sibling or family member is screwing me over.' You won't hear that, but it's a real issue. I'm not trying to bash my family at all, but it's hard to talk about this without doing that. And a lot of people aren't willing to tell their story."
It's getting late. The traffic in the throbbing Metroplex, 13 floors below, is starting to ease. Smith begins the process of standing, his back working like an elevator in a fleabag motel, refusing to be rushed. The men in suits stand at his sides like reverse bodyguards, and Smith says, "It's OK to say no," as if to remind himself one more time.
Don’t Let This Happen to You
From Recaps Archives
Note: All Dinarians should read this.....So it will NOT happen to you!
Investorchick at TNT: Lotto Winner Loses It All
I had the pleasure of meeting a very charming senior in the last few weeks. It's my friends mother and this lady is in her 70's.
She won 5 million dollars in the year 2000. I saw a copy of the cheque on the fridge at her son's house. I did a double take because I've never seen a cheque that large.
From Recaps Archives
Note: All Dinarians should read this.....So it will NOT happen to you!
Investorchick at TNT: Lotto Winner Loses It All
I had the pleasure of meeting a very charming senior in the last few weeks. It's my friends mother and this lady is in her 70's.
She won 5 million dollars in the year 2000. I saw a copy of the cheque on the fridge at her son's house. I did a double take because I've never seen a cheque that large.
Of course me being a Dinarian and riding this crazy ride along with all of the others, I have been fortunate enough over the past 5 years to have been educated by people like Tony etc and I have done my research about this kind of thing.
All of us have been told the statistics and I do realize that all of this waiting has been hard, although the real challenge comes after our blessing arrives.
My friend told me the story of how his mother had won the lottery and how she had come to "lose it all".
I was fascinated because although we hear about it, I had never met someone in this unique situation. This is her story in a nutshell.
She won 5 million dollars and was not financially educated in any formal way. She made her decisions quickly and without professional help. Her son told me she wanted to "show them all" who she was and rub it in their face, whoever "they" are.
She gave $500,000 to her sister and then $600,000 to each son. She was down 1.7 million to start and it gets dramatically worse from there.
Her sons accepted the gift and my friend was in a not great marriage and of course since he had just received $600,000 from his mother that was not his own lotto winning or an inheritance, his wife when she divorced him was entitled to half.
The other son burned through his quickly as he also had no formal education or did not seek professional help.
My friend however did the wise thing and invested his remaining $300,000, he still has it 15 years later and it's making him money daily.
I repeat, it's invested professionally and it makes him a return daily!
This lady bought a brand new house, hired an interior designer and of course the new performance car, fully loaded. She spent 30-40 THOUSAND per month at the casino because they were "so nice to her", no kidding!
She brought her sister for company and of course her sister didn't spend any of her $500,000. She had an addiction to scratch tickets and lotto tickets even though she had already won.
She handed out $50 tips at the grocery store to the cashiers etc. She had the life she always wanted and she sure made a big splash doing it.
It didn't take long for the money to run out and her to be in a worse situation then when she won the money.
I sat and listened in sheer amazement! I gave her a ride home that night because the battery on her car was going and she didn't have the money for a new one, imagine!
Her son was taking it to be fixed the next day for her and footing the bill.
I drove her home and she went on and on about her house etc. I drove up and although it's a beautiful place it was overgrown and unkept, no money for maintenance, the neighbours must be thrilled.
She invited me in and was proud to show me all of her treasures. My heart truly went out to her as there she was and now it's all gone and the house will be going soon too.
I looked at her and gently asked if she had to do it all over, what would she do different? She looked down and thought about it, looked up at me and said she would have got some help.
Everyone was my friend, she said, until the money ran out. I wished her good night and got in my car and thanked God for that experience in person and up close.
It's real, it happens and it will happen to some of you.
I told her son about this investment and he has some currency, I know she will be looked after but it sure makes you think.
How many shots at wealth does a person generally get in their lifetime?
I'm thinking not too many.
The sad thing about it, is how much she gambled away looking for money and "the win" again.
Folks, when this blessing arrives, your ship came in and this for most of us will be the one shot you get at wealth. Don't waste it!
There are several lessons to be learned from this story.
Be wise, move with caution and be deliberate with your actions. I truly hope by sharing this story, it can help at least one person, my eyes have sure been opened!
9 Surprising Items Professional Movers Won't Move
Did you know movers won't handle your nail polish remover? Seriously. Here's what your movers won't move under any circumstances.
Dan Thorp-Lancaster Wed, July 3, 2024
Professional movers will pack and transfer just about anything in your home, but they won't even touch some things. Federal regulations limit moving companies from handling anything deemed hazardous. That includes common household items such as nail polish remover.
Here's a list of other things you'll have to make alternate plans for before you move. You could squirrel some of them away and take your chances, but movers may make you sign a document to state you won't move any of the following items.
Potentially hazardous items you'll need to move yourself
Did you know movers won't handle your nail polish remover? Seriously. Here's what your movers won't move under any circumstances.
Dan Thorp-Lancaster Wed, July 3, 2024
Professional movers will pack and transfer just about anything in your home, but they won't even touch some things. Federal regulations limit moving companies from handling anything deemed hazardous. That includes common household items such as nail polish remover.
Here's a list of other things you'll have to make alternate plans for before you move. You could squirrel some of them away and take your chances, but movers may make you sign a document to state you won't move any of the following items.
Potentially hazardous items you'll need to move yourself
Batteries
You may think your batteries are harmless, but they have the potential to become little, toxic fire starters. Sitting in the back of a hot truck can cause them to combust, so movers will avoid transporting them. Even if they don't start a fire, heat and punctures can cause batteries to leak, leaving toxic chemicals in their wake.
Gas, nail polish remover, and other flammable liquids
If you keep gas or oil in your garage for lawn equipment, you'll have to move it yourself. For the same reason as batteries, flammable liquids are a no-go in hot trucks where they can leak and catch fire. Even nail polish remover is a hazard, so sweep your home for flammable liquids and securely transport them yourself or properly dispose of them.
Ammunition and explosives
It should probably go without saying, but we'll write it anyway: your movers won't handle explosives. And while they will sometimes move unloaded firearms, ammunition is prohibited. If you're crossing state lines, check the local laws and regulations for how to legally transport guns and ammunition.
Corrosive chemicals, poisons, and cleaning products
Toxic chemicals can easily leak during the moving process. Not only is this a health hazard to your movers, but corrosive chemicals can damage the rest of your belongings or the moving truck. Your movers will also refuse to handle household cleaning products because of their potential to form a toxic gas when combined.
Pressurized gas cylinders
If you or a loved one has ever used an oxygen tank, you probably know how dangerous they are. The potential hazards from a puncture or leak, stray spark, or excessive heat aren't worth the risk of loading them into a moving truck. This is also true for other pressurized containers like propane tanks, fire extinguishers, hairsprays, and anything else that can pose a fire or projectile risk.
Live plants and animals
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/common-household-items-movers-wont-move-190007904.html
Possible Bank Perks to ask for at your Exchange Appointment .
Occasionally Dinar Recaps will be posting Exchange Tips and information from our archives for our newest readers that may be helpful for you at our exchange appointments and Post RV. Not all information may apply to you and your personal situation…..Take what you like and leave the rest: Some you may want to save for your own personal records! We hope all our dreams come true very soon ~ Your Dinar Recaps Team
From Recaps Archives:
Possible Bank Perks to ask for at your Exchange Appointment .
AUM - Assets Under Management
1. No fees ever for foreign currency exchanges
2. Provide a Private Banker/Wealth Manager at the time of exchange to initially park the funds in an non-interest-bearing account overnight and sweep those funds into other non-interest bearing accounts within your bank the following day; until I meet with bank advisers and other financial professionals and make some general guidelines for the management of these funds and the distribution of a portion of these funds through your bank, trust, and LLCs.
Occasionally Dinar Recaps will be posting Exchange Tips and information from our archives for our newest readers that may be helpful for you at our exchange appointments and Post RV. Not all information may apply to you and your personal situation…..Take what you like and leave the rest: Some you may want to save for your own personal records! We hope all our dreams come true very soon ~ Your Dinar Recaps Team
From Recaps Archives:
Possible Bank Perks to ask for at your Exchange Appointment .
AUM - Assets Under Management
1. No fees ever for foreign currency exchanges
2. Provide a Private Banker/Wealth Manager at the time of exchange to initially park the funds in an non-interest-bearing account overnight and sweep those funds into other non-interest bearing accounts within your bank the following day; until I meet with bank advisers and other financial professionals and make some general guidelines for the management of these funds and the distribution of a portion of these funds through your bank, trust, and LLCs.
3. Family Office Services
4. Perks can be based on AUM (Assets Under Management) in a tier grid
5. Discounts on AUM fees
6. No fees ever - no fee to deposit/wire transfer money
7. No Broker fees ever
8. Free Safe Deposit Box, Certified Checks, Notarized, Courier Services
9.Provide Excess Deposit Insurance (i.e. Lloyds of London and/or Travelers) or Abbott Downing
10.Provide Senior Wealth Managers/Investment Bankers for selection
11.Tax/Business/Estate Attorney & CPA
12. Private transactions representation –assistance in buying a house/car/anything ( my trustee will purchase through my bank) 13.
Free Due Diligence Services provided for outside investment opportunities(research on any person or service) they will get it
14.100% funding availability (immediate Funds) before we leave
15. Unlimited Platinum or Black Visa Signature Debit & Credit Card with no ATM fees
16. Line of Credit available
17. Group Health Insurance - to cover the signers and families of depositors
18. Guarantee 12-15% interest per year on deposits
19. Bank Trading Platforms & Repurchase Agreement Sweep Accounts
20. Short Term/High Yield Interest Rates
21. Assist in opening an offshore bank account with affiliate bank for foreign investments
22. Access to information on great investment opportunities
23. Pre-IPO deals
24. Provide free Executive Privacy Plus subscription with Reputation.com
25. Sports tickets in suites and on the floor (Football, Basketball, Baseball, Boxing, Tennis, Golf, NASCAR & etc.) Also, special events like the Super Bowl, NBA Finals, College Bowls, NCAA Final Four, World Series &the Olympics. Based on AUM in a tier grid
26. Entertainment & Concert tickets in suites and on the floor (Music Concerts, Entertainment Awards Shows, Premier Movie Screenings, TV Show tickets & etc.) Based on AUM in a tier grid
27. Limousine & VIP transportation based on AUM in a tier grid
28. Private Jet Travel (5-25 flight hrs. per mo.) based on AUM in atier grid on flight hours per month
29. First Class seats/commercial airlines based on AUM in a tier grid
30. Private Yacht access/usage (40 hrs. annually) based on AUM in a tier grid on access/usage hours per year
31. Donations to our favorite charities (Banks matching a certain percentage)
32. Prime seats at charity events
33. Suites at Luxury Hotels & VIP Dinners at Restaurants based on AUM
34. Membership fee & Annual fees to Inspirato Core resorts & residences
35. Membership fee & Annual fees to Exclusive Resorts & Residences for 60 days with Priority Holiday Access annually
36. ClubCorp Private Membership based on AUM
37. Spa & Massage Club Membership based on AUM in a tier grid
38. Concierge Services 24/7 based on AUM
39. Provide a free cell phone & concierge subscription service for members with $1 million and over AUM
40. Free Family Financial Education provided for group family members
41. Provide any and all other perks that was not mentioned
Example of an Exchange Appointment Checklist and Tips For the Big Day
Occasionally Dinar Recaps will be posting Exchange Tips and information from our archives for our newest readers that may be helpful for you at our exchange appointments and Post RV. Not all information may apply to you and your personal situation…..Take what you like and leave the rest: Some you may want to save for your own personal records! We hope all our dreams come true very soon ~ Your Dinar Recaps Team
Bank appointment for Currency EXCHANGE Instructions/Checklist
Bank Name_________________________________________
Bank 800#__________________________________________
“I am calling to schedule a foreign currency exchange”
My name is___________________________________________
My zipcode is__________________
My e-mail address is (If they ask for it)________________________________
Occasionally Dinar Recaps will be posting Exchange Tips and information from our archives for our newest readers that may be helpful for you at our exchange appointments and Post RV. Not all information may apply to you and your personal situation…..Take what you like and leave the rest: Some you may want to save for your own personal records! We hope all our dreams come true very soon ~ Your Dinar Recaps Team
Bank appointment for Currency EXCHANGE Instructions/Checklist
Bank Name_________________________________________
Bank 800#__________________________________________
“I am calling to schedule a foreign currency exchange”
My name is___________________________________________
My zipcode is__________________
My e-mail address is (If they ask for it)________________________________
For your own information or at your exchange appointment : No one is supposed to ask how much currency you have until you are at the exchange appointment.
I have________________________ IQN (Iraqi) currency
I have________________________VNN (Vietnamese) currency
I have________________________ IDN (Indonesian) currency
I have_________100Trillion,________50Trillion,_______20Trillionand_______10Trillion
2008AA notes of ZWN (Zimbabwe) currency
FILL IN THE BLANKS for EXCHANGE appointment information that you get from the call
center representative:
Your appointment Information:
Date_________________________
TIME_________________________
The Location____________________
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The Day of Your Appointment- Things To Do
1. Make sure you know where you are going. Arrive early so you can “get yourself together, take a deep breath”.
Do not loiter. If you are too early, stay SECURELY in the general area but not in the bank parking lot!
2. Remember to get in and get the EXCHANGE done, there a lot of other people behind you in line so be thoughtful of their time as well.
You will have time for questions at your second appointment with your new Private Banker/Wealth Manager.
3. Be discrete, be professional, and be alert and aware of your surroundings. BREATHE! Seriously consider hiring security to accompany you to your appointment or bring a trusted friend.
4. Collect business cards from everyone or take their name and phone numbers as well as the location of their regular branch office.
5. Read and Sign the NDA. If it is simple and states you cannot tell anyone except your spouse, lawyer, or CPA (These are the people that need to know how you came about your money for tax purposes) how you came about all of your new found wealth, sign it and move forward with your exchange.
Be prepared to uphold it!
If you break the terms, you could lose your newfound wealth.
If the NDA is more complex and you are not comfortable with it, simply let them know you would like to explore your options with another banking institution. They may or may not waive the NDA.
REMEMBER TO GET A COPY OF THE NDA IF YOU SIGNED IT.
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The Day of Your Appointment Things NOT To Do
Do not demand anything while at the bank or act like a lunatic, you will be escorted out.
Remember the Golden Rule “Treat others the way you wish to be Treated”!!!
Items to Bring to the EXCHANGE Appointment
(Check off the list as you put all items needed together to make sure you remember everything)
“Driver’s License
“Second form of ID (accredit card or passport)
“Your most recent utility bill (Water, power, etc.) to confirm residency in case you have never held an account with the bank you will be exchanging with or for another form of ID
“Power of Attorney Paperwork (If you are exchanging for someone else)
“A pad, pen to take notes, calculator
“Receipts for all currency purchased or gifting letter if they were a gift in case they are needed (Do not offer them, only do so if they are requested)
“IQD / VNN / IDN / ZWN currency
“Have your TOD designees (Transferable on Death) full legal names, phone numbers, addresses and Social Security Numbers written down that you want listed on your accounts.
You can have multiple TOD designations per account (Wife/Husband, Children, Grandchildren, Nieces/Nephews, etc.)
“Have a list of Cashier’s Checks you will need, if any, along with the exact amounts and who they need to be Payable to
“Decide in advance if you will be requesting cash for “Pocket Money” beforehand and how much……if allowed
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New Account Numbers for each Currency EXCHANGED (If You decide to have separate accounts) For your own records. At one time it was suggested to use separate accounts for each currency in case of different tax liabilities……That may no longer be the case
Name of Bank Exchanger____________________________________________
Bank____________________________________________
Branch___________________________________________
IQD Checking Account Number__________________________________________
IQD Checking Routing Number__________________________________________
IQD Savings Account Number (Deposit 50% of your Exchange for Taxes just in case and do not touch until Tax Time)_________________________________________
Add TOD (Transferable on Death) Names to Accounts (Checking and Savings)
“Make sure you receive copies of the deposit slips and all account information
“Get Clean and Clear Certificates – at least 10 or more (Documentation that your money is not tied to anything illegal)
“Get starter checks if needed until your checks arrive
“Get ATM card if you want one
“Set up Online Banking if wanted
“Inquire about Extra Insurance for your funds __________
(Use the same format for VND, Rupiah, Zim and Rial or other currencies if they are also exchangeable at this time)
DID YOU GET A COPY OF YOUR SIGNED NDA?
Set second appointment with a Private Banker or Wealth Manager (The bank will guide as to who you need to speak with based on your EXCHANGE/deposit amount
This appointment will be the one in which you discuss all of your options for investment and
your “perks”. Also Trusts and all other questions you may have.
Private Banker Name__________________________
Telephone Number____________________________
Appointment time______________
Location___________________________
Notes: ___________________________________________________________________
____________________________________________________________________
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"Don't Let This Happen To You! " From Dinar Recaps Archives
Occasionally Dinar Recaps will be posting Exchange Tips and information from our archives for our newest readers that may be helpful for you at our exchange appointments and Post RV. Not all information may apply to you and your personal situation…..Take what you like and leave the rest: Some you may want to save for your own personal records! We hope all our dreams come true very soon ~ Your Dinar Recaps Team
Note: All Dinarians should read this.....So it will NOT happen to you!
From InvestorChick at TNT
Lotto Winner Loses It All
I had the pleasure of meeting a very charming senior in the last few weeks. It's my friends mother and this lady is in her 70's.
She won 5 million dollars in the year 2000. I saw a copy of the cheque on the fridge at her son's house. I did a double take because I've never seen a cheque that large.
Of course me being a Dinarian and riding this crazy ride along with all of the others, I have been fortunate enough over the past 5 years to have been educated by people like Tony etc and I have done my research about this kind of thing
Occasionally Dinar Recaps will be posting Exchange Tips and information from our archives for our newest readers that may be helpful for you at our exchange appointments and Post RV. Not all information may apply to you and your personal situation…..Take what you like and leave the rest: Some you may want to save for your own personal records! We hope all our dreams come true very soon ~ Your Dinar Recaps Team
Note: All Dinarians should read this.....So it will NOT happen to you!
From InvestorChick at TNT
Lotto Winner Loses It All
I had the pleasure of meeting a very charming senior in the last few weeks. It's my friends mother and this lady is in her 70's.
She won 5 million dollars in the year 2000. I saw a copy of the cheque on the fridge at her son's house. I did a double take because I've never seen a cheque that large.
Of course me being a Dinarian and riding this crazy ride along with all of the others, I have been fortunate enough over the past 5 years to have been educated by people like Tony etc and I have done my research about this kind of thing
All of us have been told the statistics and I do realize that all of this waiting has been hard, although the real challenge comes after our blessing arrives.
My friend told me the story of how his mother had won the lottery and how she had come to "lose it all".
I was fascinated because although we hear about it, I had never met someone in this unique situation. This is her story in a nutshell.
She won 5 million dollars and was not financially educated in any formal way. She made her decisions quickly and without professional help. Her son told me she wanted to "show them all" who she was and rub it in their face, whoever "they" are.
She gave $500,000 to her sister and then $600,000 to each son. She was down 1.7 million to start and it gets dramatically worse from there.
Her sons accepted the gift and my friend was in a not great marriage and of course since he had just received $600,000 from his mother that was not his own lotto winning or an inheritance, his wife when she divorced him was entitled to half.
The other son burned through his quickly as he also had no formal education or did not seek professional help.
My friend however did the wise thing and invested his remaining $300,000, he still has it 15 years later and it's making him money daily.
I repeat, it's invested professionally and it makes him a return daily!
This lady bought a brand new house, hired an interior designer and of course the new performance car, fully loaded. She spent 30-40 THOUSAND per month at the casino because they were "so nice to her", no kidding!
She brought her sister for company and of course her sister didn't spend any of her $500,000. She had an addiction to scratch tickets and lotto tickets even though she had already won.
She handed out $50 tips at the grocery store to the cashiers etc. She had the life she always wanted and she sure made a big splash doing it.
It didn't take long for the money to run out and her to be in a worse situation then when she won the money.
I sat and listened in sheer amazement! I gave her a ride home that night because the battery on her car was going and she didn't have the money for a new one, imagine!
Her son was taking it to be fixed the next day for her and footing the bill.
I drove her home and she went on and on about her house etc. I drove up and although it's a beautiful place it was overgrown and unkept, no money for maintenance, the neighbours must be thrilled.
She invited me in and was proud to show me all of her treasures. My heart truly went out to her as there she was and now it's all gone and the house will be going soon too.
I looked at her and gently asked if she had to do it all over, what would she do different? She looked down and thought about it, looked up at me and said she would have got some help.
Everyone was my friend, she said, until the money ran out. I wished her good night and got in my car and thanked God for that experience in person and up close.
It's real, it happens and it will happen to some of you.
I told her son about this investment and he has some currency, I know she will be looked after but it sure makes you think.
How many shots at wealth does a person generally get in their lifetime?
I'm thinking not too many.
The sad thing about it, is how much she gambled away looking for money and "the win" again.
Folks, when this blessing arrives, your ship came in and this for most of us will be the one shot you get at wealth. Don't waste it!
There are several lessons to be learned from this story.
Be wise, move with caution and be deliberate with your actions. I truly hope by sharing this story, it can help at least one person, my eyes have sure been opened!
Possible Bank Perks to ask for at your Exchange Appointment . From Recaps Archives
Possible Bank Perks to ask for at your Exchange Appointment .
AUM - Assets Under Management
1. No fees ever for foreign currency exchanges
2. Provide a Private Banker/Wealth Manager at the time of exchange to initially park the funds in an non-interest-bearing account overnight and sweep those funds into other non-interest bearing accounts within your bank the following day; until I meet with bank advisers and other financial professionals and make some general guidelines for the management of these funds and the distribution of a portion of these funds through your bank, trust, and LLCs.
3. Family Office Services
4. Perks can be based on AUM (Assets Under Management) in a tier grid
Possible Bank Perks to ask for at your Exchange Appointment .
AUM - Assets Under Management
1. No fees ever for foreign currency exchanges
2. Provide a Private Banker/Wealth Manager at the time of exchange to initially park the funds in an non-interest-bearing account overnight and sweep those funds into other non-interest bearing accounts within your bank the following day; until I meet with bank advisers and other financial professionals and make some general guidelines for the management of these funds and the distribution of a portion of these funds through your bank, trust, and LLCs.
3. Family Office Services
4. Perks can be based on AUM (Assets Under Management) in a tier grid
5. Discounts on AUM fees
6. No fees ever - no fee to deposit/wire transfer money
7. No Broker fees ever
8. Free Safe Deposit Box, Certified Checks, Notarized, Courier Services
9.Provide Excess Deposit Insurance (i.e. Lloyds of London and/or Travelers) or Abbott Downing
10.Provide Senior Wealth Managers/Investment Bankers for selection
11.Tax/Business/Estate Attorney & CPA
12. Private transactions representation –assistance in buying a house/car/anything ( my trustee will purchase through my bank) 13.
Free Due Diligence Services provided for outside investment opportunities(research on any person or service) they will get it
14.100% funding availability (immediate Funds) before we leave
15. Unlimited Platinum or Black Visa Signature Debit & Credit Card with no ATM fees
16. Line of Credit available
17. Group Health Insurance - to cover the signers and families of depositors
18. Guarantee 12-15% interest per year on deposits
19. Bank Trading Platforms & Repurchase Agreement Sweep Accounts
20. Short Term/High Yield Interest Rates
21. Assist in opening an offshore bank account with affiliate bank for foreign investments
22. Access to information on great investment opportunities
23. Pre-IPO deals
24. Provide free Executive Privacy Plus subscription with Reputation.com
25. Sports tickets in suites and on the floor (Football, Basketball, Baseball, Boxing, Tennis, Golf, NASCAR & etc.) Also, special events like the Super Bowl, NBA Finals, College Bowls, NCAA Final Four, World Series &the Olympics. Based on AUM in a tier grid
26. Entertainment & Concert tickets in suites and on the floor (Music Concerts, Entertainment Awards Shows, Premier Movie Screenings, TV Show tickets & etc.) Based on AUM in a tier grid
27. Limousine & VIP transportation based on AUM in a tier grid
28. Private Jet Travel (5-25 flight hrs. per mo.) based on AUM in atier grid on flight hours per month
29. First Class seats/commercial airlines based on AUM in a tier grid
30. Private Yacht access/usage (40 hrs. annually) based on AUM in a tier grid on access/usage hours per year
31. Donations to our favorite charities (Banks matching a certain percentage)
32. Prime seats at charity events
33. Suites at Luxury Hotels & VIP Dinners at Restaurants based on AUM
34. Membership fee & Annual fees to Inspirato Core resorts & residences
35. Membership fee & Annual fees to Exclusive Resorts & Residences for 60 days with Priority Holiday Access annually
36. ClubCorp Private Membership based on AUM
37. Spa & Massage Club Membership based on AUM in a tier grid
38. Concierge Services 24/7 based on AUM
39. Provide a free Vertu Ti cell phone & concierge subscription service for members with $1 million and over AUM
40. Free Family Financial Education provided for group family members
41. Provide any and all other perks that was not mentioned
TNT Members: Services You Get As You Get Richer
TNT:
RayRen98: Services You Get As You Get Richer
1. Housecleaning Services (Your time is worth more than the effort it takes to maintain your living space)
2. Personal Trainer (Reduces stress, improves your health)
3. Personal Chef (Customize your nutrition. Saves time from planning/cooking)
4. Advisors in All Areas (Attorneys, tax planning, estate Planning, etc.)
5. Luxury Concierge Services (Eliminate micro detailed planning, travel planning, events, etc. Luxury of time and peace of mind)
TNT:
RayRen98: Services You Get As You Get Richer
1. Housecleaning Services (Your time is worth more than the effort it takes to maintain your living space)
2. Personal Trainer (Reduces stress, improves your health)
3. Personal Chef (Customize your nutrition. Saves time from planning/cooking)
4. Advisors in All Areas (Attorneys, tax planning, estate Planning, etc.)
5. Luxury Concierge Services (Eliminate micro detailed planning, travel planning, events, etc. Luxury of time and peace of mind)
6. Private Medical Care (Healthcare becomes proactive. Access to specialists. Enhances wellness).)
7. Executive Coaching (Improves your decision making, helps in making strategic decisions)
8. Home Security Services (State of the art surveillance systems, background checks on hired staff)
9. Private Travel (No waiting at airports. Flexible travel, Maximize your time, schedule, etc.)
10. Exclusive Country Club Membership (Rub elbows with the right people. Access to Milken Institute Global Conference-$50k, the Bohemian Club-$25k, etc.)
11. Wealth Transfer Specialist (Spheres of influence)
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Beth in Greensboro: Here is the video that goes along with the discussion in Open Mic this afternoon.
Services You Get As You Get Richer
From Recaps Archives: Cheat Sheet for Exchange Appointment From Fleming
Occasionally Dinar Recaps will be posting Exchange Tips and information from our archives for our newest readers that may be helpful for you at our exchange appointments and Post RV. Not all information may apply to you and your personal situation…..Take what you like and leave the rest: Some you may want to save for your own personal records! We hope all our dreams come true very soon ~ Your Dinar Recaps Team
Cheat Sheet for Appointment with Supplemental Information, Fleming (Rev. 5.21.2021)
The information in this document is based on the most recent information available. It is not intended to be the authority on the GCR/RV or appointment process. It is expected that there may be changes once final instructions are received. This information is based on exchanges/ redemptions done in the USA. Each country will have its own process and information should be available for all once notifications have been issued.
The redemption/exchange process is streamlined and will be easy and straightforward. The appointment will only be about 15-20 minutes. You will be in and out quickly.
Occasionally Dinar Recaps will be posting Exchange Tips and information from our archives for our newest readers that may be helpful for you at our exchange appointments and Post RV. Not all information may apply to you and your personal situation…..Take what you like and leave the rest: Some you may want to save for your own personal records! We hope all our dreams come true very soon ~ Your Dinar Recaps Team
Cheat Sheet for Appointment with Supplemental Information, Fleming (Rev. 5.21.2021)
The information in this document is based on the most recent information available. It is not intended to be the authority on the GCR/RV or appointment process. It is expected that there may be changes once final instructions are received. This information is based on exchanges/ redemptions done in the USA. Each country will have its own process and information should be available for all once notifications have been issued.
The redemption/exchange process is streamlined and will be easy and straightforward. The appointment will only be about 15-20 minutes. You will be in and out quickly.
The current understanding (and subject to change) is there will be a “Safe Web Link” or 800# sent to those who purchased currency/bonds online with a registered dealer. This would include: Banks, Travelex, Great American Coin or with the aggregating sites (example: Dinar Recaps, Dinar Chronicles et al). Currently there are approximately 2 million email addresses.
Emails should be coming from Wells Fargo, HSBC, Chase, Bank of America and possibly Fifth Third.
If you do not receive an email, the information will be posted on aggregating sites and/or with those who provide RV Intel.
If you receive an email directly, you may forward it to anyone you gifted currency and/or bonds.
If you received as a gift, you may get the email forwarded to you.
Follow the instructions provided in the email.
You may be asked to verify who you are by answering questions based on publicly available information. This process is similar to when you apply online to open a bank account or a loan.
You may be required to electronically sign an NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement). Read carefully so you understand what you are agreeing to. The NDA is to protect you. Print a copy for your records and for future reference. At the appointment, you will be signing a paper copy of the NDA.
You may be given an 800# or a unique 800# to schedule an appointment. The number may be to a specific location or you will be giving your Zip Code, to be directed to the closest location.
When you call you may be asked if you have Zim, Currency or both. This is because not all locations will be able to redeem Zim. NEVER say how much you have, and they cannot legally ask.
Remember that bonds (Zim) is redeemed, and Currency is exchanged.
You are free to redeem anywhere inside the United States. You are not required to exchange in your home state. It is recommended that if you live in a small town, that you go far enough from home, so you are not recognized. This is for your safety. There are no restrictions if you want to go to another state. You cannot go to another country to exchange. If you are a US citizen living abroad, check with place of exchange on what options you have available to you.
What to bring to appointment:
2 picture IDs – driver’s license, passport, government ID or anything with your picture
2 recent utility bill statements – this verifies your address
If homeless or no permanent address explain this at appointment.
Social Security card and/or Birth certificate. These may not be necessary, but bring especially if you have no picture ID.
If you have a bank account with a Tier 1 bank (HSBC, Chase, WF, Bank of America) bring your account number and routing number (a blank check will have that info.).
If you have a trust, bring the cover and indemnification pages (notarized pages). You may bring the entire trust, but they should only need copies of those pages.
Currencies/Bonds – Separate by country and denomination, large to small, facing in same direction. Place each currency into a small plastic bag.
If you have a lot of currency, recommend you create a tally sheet of how much of each currency/bond you have.
On day of appointment dress professionally. Do not dress to a point that you are uncomfortable.
Allow yourself plenty of time. Know where you are going and where to park if in a large city/urban area. Do not use Uber or Lyft type services. You might consider hiring a professional security company for transportation if safety is a concern.
Do not share with anyone purpose of your appointment or what you are doing.
Make a list of anything that you need in the first 10 days. Do you have any emergency needs like housing or medical, etc.
Rates on currencies are based on Street rate, International and Contract rate. Not all currencies have a Contract rate. You can ask if there is one. You will want to know if there are conditions for receiving the contract rate and what they are. *See supplemental information for definitions.
The Redemption Centers will have a default package. This package includes rates, fees, services and benefits/perks. The default rate will be the International rate. If this is agreeable, you simply will follow through on signing all documents.
Leave with copies of all signed documents and any business cards.
Banks are reporting that there will not be time to create a skeleton trust at appointment. If possible, set up appointment for immediately after exchange to meet with a trust attorney or Trust Co. representative to have a trust created. Be prepared to have a unique trust name picked out. Also, who your beneficiaries will be and a successor trustee (person who will take over for you should you not be able to manage duties). Trust name should not be something associated with you directly.
When you get to the actual exchange process:
They will run your currency/bonds through the DE LaRue machine. This machine counts and verifies the authenticity of your currency.
If you do not like what is being offered, you can ask if any portion is negotiable.
You may be asked what you plan to do with funds. If you are redeeming Zim, the expectation is that you would do humanitarian projects, but is not required. At end of this document is a list of projects that you can choose from to support if you wish. (No longer 80/20 requirement on the Zim)
Historically, they have been looking for the following things in projects:
i. Projects are global in nature – start local and grow outward
ii. Job creation
iii. Duration – multigenerational
iv. Improves economy and helps businesses impacted by Covid
The best way to talk about your projects is to explain a problem and then how you want to fix it. Example: Homelessness – want to build safe affordable housing.
Your project should be typed up in a 1-3-page format with bullet points. This just makes it easy for them to read. Attached at end of this document is a cover sheet for your project. A copy of your project write up will be left at Redemption Center.
Discuss what fees they are charging for exchange. It may be that the fees have been calculated in the rates. It is ok to ask if you can negotiate fees. In many cases, you may be further ahead to just pay the fees. This is something you can ask about. The same is true for services and perks.
If all is agreeable, sign and get copies. Remember that any agreements can be rescinded within 72 hours/3 days by law. You may ask if that time can be extended to allow you time to meet with professionals and to come back and renegotiate in your best interests.
You will open a new bank account for each currency and/or bond you are redeeming/ exchanging. These accounts will be under trust account name if you have one.
Each person should be given a US Treasury Account in the QFS.
You can take your spouse to appointment or not. You do not want to take anyone who is not familiar with this process as they may end up slowing everything down with too many questions.
Below are some questions to ask and some may not be necessary under the new QFS:
a. Do the funds from each currency/bond need to be in separate accounts?
b. What about fund protection: Does FDIC still apply, or do I need a Lloyds or Cdars Insurance for amounts over $250,000? Is this something they can assist with?
c. I have been told that these transactions are non-taxable, if not, should that not be true, will you provide in writing that I will have access to the funds to pay taxes.
Ask for a full explanation of what the CAP’s and restrictions are and how they work. How are they scaled and what are the benchmarks for restrictions to be removed?
Read everything they give you including the NDA. If you do not understand, ask until you do. OR if you feel you need help, ask if there is an attorney available who can help.
Be respectful – they are not trying to trick you or deceive you.
Discuss Bank Perks – on the private banking side there are perks that you can request. Understand that you will be paying for them. They typically are tiered – so the more AUM (assets under management) you have, the more options you have.
Let them know you are aware that there will be a number of essential tasks to be addressed in the next 10-15 days. Tell them you will be needing help in setting appointments and managing those tasks. Ask if they can provide you with someone who can help.
Below is a list of possible tasks and list of professionals for short term and long term.
a. Establish primary irrevocable trust and any additional trusts or structures. Basic trust components may include:
i. Complex
ii. Non-grantor
iii. Discretionary
iv. Spendthrift
v. Asset protection
b. Meet with Security and Risk management team
c. Wealth Management Team
d. Attorneys and CPAs
e. Establishing short- and long-term priorities
f. Education for self and family – ask what time frame is for completion
There will be a number of decisions that will need to be made post-exchange appointment including meeting with or hiring professionals to assist you. The list below is intended only as a guide.
a. Accounting / Tax
b. Acquisitions
c. Administrative Assistant
d. Art/Advisory Collection
e. Asset Management
f. Aviation Safety Training
g. Brand Identity / Web Design
h. Charity / Philanthropy
i. Compliance / Oversight
j. Concierge
k. Consultancy
l. Precious Metals
m. Digital Privacy / Cyber Security
n. Education Consultancy / Private Tutor
o. Employee Screening
p. Hiring Advisors / Human Res. Search Team
q. Events/ Lifestyle Management
r. Family Office / Software Solutions
s. Family Video Biographies
t. Genealogy / Family History
u. Governance Specialists
v. Home Entertaining / Party Service
w. Ind. Wealth Mgmnt
x. Insurance
y. Interior Design/ Consultancy
z. Intern. Foreign Exchange
aa. Legal
bb. Medical / Health
cc. Mobile/ Telecomm
dd. Private Banking Adv/instructor
ee. Multi-Dimensional Governance
ff. Family Office
gg. Public Relations/ Comm
hh. Private Aircraft Mgmt/Charter
ii. Property / Hotel / Comm &Res
jj. Security / Risk Mgmt
kk. Security / Protection Services
ll. Succession Estate Planning
mm. Training / Wealth Transition Adv
nn. Trust/Fiduciary
oo. Venture Capital Investments
pp. VIP Travel
Supplemental Information
Many are new to this and often terms are used incorrectly, switched, or interchanged. It is more important that you understand what terms mean when you get to your appointment.
DEFINITIONS
Tier 1 Bank: Tier 1 banks are those that hold the highest assets. They include: include: HSBC, Wells Fargo, Chase, Bank of America.
Full-Service Banks: Banks that offer a full range of services including a foreign exchange department. Credit Unions are not usually Full-Service.
Types of Rates:
Front screen/Street Rate: This is the rate you see when you look to purchase or sell currency. The buy rate is higher than the sell rate and the bank always includes a fee. The fee includes the bank portion and the UST portion.
International Rate/ Back Screen/ Default: This is the rate that is used for trading. It is higher than the front screen/street rate. Example: Street rate per million Dong: $1180. International rate: $470,000. To receive international/default rated does require that you sign an NDA. This protects you and the bank.
Contract Rate: This is a rate that is agreed to between countries. Any contract rate is a written agreement between two parties. When you hear “contract rates” associated with the RV, it is often being misused.
Unless you have a written agreement with another, you do not have a contract rate.
If you negotiate for something different than the default, then you will be signing a written agreement and that would be your contract rate.
In the context of the US, it has written agreements with other countries, specifically Iraq and Vietnam.
With Iraq, it is sometimes referred to as “contract for oil”. This is an agreement between governments. The US holds Iraqi Dinar and will receive that contract rate.
Not all currencies have contract rates.
Currently, if you hold Zim, contract rates will not be available. This is because you will receive more from the Zim than you will with a contracted currency rate.
NDA – Non-disclosure agreement
The NDA is a written agreement between two parties that specifies what cannot be disclosed or shared. Usually there is a time limit, 90 days +. As relates to the RV, you are agreeing to not discuss what rate you received for your currency and Zim. The RV transaction is a private transaction. The UST does not want you talking to the public about your private transaction.
If you choose not to sign an NDA, you will go with the public (Tier 5) and will receive Street Rate.
Who can participate? Generally speaking, you can participate in the RV if you are not and have not participated in gangs, legalized crime, murder, human trafficking etc. If you are unsure, make appointment and ask when you get there.
RV Tiers:
T1 = Governments
T2 = Military, those who put this together, groups
T3 = Humanitarian Organizations/Groups and SKR groups
T4 = Internet group – those who follow what is going on with the RV
T4A = Individuals with SKRs, now part of T3
T4B – Individuals, Internet Group
T5 = Public
SKR: Stands for Safe Keeping Receipt. This is where someone who is licensed and authorized to be a Paymaster (usually an attorney) represents a group of currency holders (were originally done prior to Zim being in the offering). They sign a contract and agree to a specified rate. There are not and have not been any new SKR groups for several years.
Prosperity Packages: These cover a very wide area. Includes funds from large trusts such as St. Germain, Rodriguez, Heritage and Mitterrand Trusts will be used to assist the Common Man and help with some debt relief.
Adjudicated Packages: These are lawsuits where plaintiffs won the legal cases. The largest are: CMKX, Native American Claims, Farm Claims, and others. You will know if you are already a part of these.
CMKX: A diamond mine that oversold stock with the help of the SEC. They were sued by key stockholders and won – often referred to as an Adjudicated Package.
Farm Claims: Lawsuit that involved farmers who were unfairly taken advantage of by bankers. They sued and won.
Currency Basket: Originally there were a few baskets with different countries’ currencies revaluing approximately six months apart. There are 22 currencies that are scheduled to go initially.
Once all currency are asset backed, that currency will be exchanged at 1:1 and it will not matter if it is a Mexican Peso or a Dinar. The RV is about creating a level playing field. Not all currency rates will rise in value and some will fall.
List of currencies:
• US
• UK
• Kuwait
• Canada
• Mexico
• Russia
• China
• Venezuela
• Iranian Rial
• IRAQ
• Indonesia Rupiah
• Malaysia
• Vietnamese
• Brazil
• Saudi Arabia
• Qatar
• United Arab Emirates
• Turkey
• Afghanistan
• India
• Libya
• Japan
If you do not have a project but wish to help, below is list of 15 categories of projects from which you can choose. Each category is associated with an Executive Order (EO). You can look up the EO to learn what the focus is. This will help if you do not have an existing project.
• Infrastructure – (There are 5 EOs related to infrastructure. One is #13807 8/15/2017 – Review purpose and what is needed)
• Energy
• International and American business
• Security
• Violence and criminals
• American Indians, refuges and pacific islanders
• Housing
• Technology and space
• Agriculture, oceans, water
• Health
• Spiritual
• Terrorists
• Education
• Financial and money
• Veterans
Project Cover Sheet
Name of Project
Name of Submitter
Phone number
Email Address
Date of Submission
Description of the project – give as much detail as possible. (If you have a plan or outline prepared, attach this form to front of that plan).
Post RV Tips & Suggestions
Post RV Tips & Suggestions
From OOMF By Just Da Truth (Repost From Our Archives)
While there are numerous ways to prepare for the RV I feel this will assist you in preparation for that most awesome day. When you see RV in big letters on your favorite currency forum, , or when you hear me scream hallelujah from wherever you are in the world…that is when you will know that glorious day has arrived. But will you be ready?
Prepare: I realize many of you have done your research on how to invest, donate, and spend your money (Lord knows we have had plenty of time to do that, LOL) but time should also be allocated to how you are going to receive your investment.
Preparation is not a huge task and I believe it is essential.
Post RV Tips & Suggestions
From OOMF By Just Da Truth (Repost From Our Archives)
While there are numerous ways to prepare for the RV I feel this will assist you in preparation for that most awesome day. When you see RV in big letters on your favorite currency forum, , or when you hear me scream hallelujah from wherever you are in the world…that is when you will know that glorious day has arrived. But will you be ready?
Prepare: I realize many of you have done your research on how to invest, donate, and spend your money (Lord knows we have had plenty of time to do that, LOL) but time should also be allocated to how you are going to receive your investment.
Preparation is not a huge task and I believe it is essential.
Many of us have our dinar stuffed in the sock drawer, safe deposit box at the bank, or maybe even locked in the pages of your Bible but when that day arrives for you to exchange your currency there are a few things you should consider. Here are some simple steps and advice…
Give thanks: First and foremost hit your knees!
Keep Quiet: On the day you discover your investment has RV’d your first reaction is to scream with excitement and to tell the world. Think of your safety and your family’s safety first. Handle your affairs as quiet as possible.
Even though this event trumps all events you could ever post on Facebook and Twitter…it is better not to tell anyone about this particular event.
Identification: If you decide to use a bank or your currency trader at time of exchange both are going to ask for 1 to 3 different forms of identification.
Make sure your id’s are current. You will likely use your driver’s license, passport, credit cards, student ID, work ID, and/or a utility bill.
Banking: If you are dealing with small banks, go straight to the VP or upper management. If your bank has a foreign currency exchange department immediately ask for the VP or President of the department.
With larger national banks, go to their Private Banking or equivalent division for customers with great wealth. I think you get the point I am trying to make…
If the new exchange rate is considerably higher and you have several dinars to exchange you will be dealing with a high amount of cash in exchange. This step will only move the process along and further protect your asset.
They may have more options when it comes to banking, and have a better grasp of the disclosure and security procedures in the bank.
It would also be beneficial, if you know your banker, to have his/her name and phone number ready in case there is a technical challenge wiring the funds.
If not, have the banks phone number and address readily available…go ahead and log into your contacts in the cell phone.
Also, research your own bank options, banking fees, bank account features, return rates, FDIC insurance, NCUA insurance, etc.
If you are utilizing the services of a currency trader make sure you have all the needed account numbers that the exchange office will require in order to wire funds to your bank of choice. So you will need your bank name, bank account, routing number, and wire transfer numbers. Also add the phone number and address into your cell phone for quick access.
Contingency Plan: Lets say you plan to go to your local bank to cash in your dinar. You find out there is something you are not too familiar with or maybe…they do not offer a currency exchange service.
If they are going to ship your Dinar out-of-state (out of your sight) for 3 or 4 days, the cash in spread is too high, etc etc. What do you do?
Do some calling around before you leave to see what services your institution offers. Ask about the rates and if there will be a delay for the money to be deposited into your account.
Take a preventive measure today by writing down a list of banks near your home, next major city, or an adjacent state that you can contact if a problem with your initial bank arises.
Depositing your Cash: Regardless of the method you use to exchange your dinar into dollars you will likely deposit a large sum of cash into a bank account. If you are in the United States banks are required to report to the IRS any single deposit exceeding $9,999.99. This is to identify potential criminals dealing in fraud, theft, or even terrorism.
Furthermore, funds deposited in the amount of $10,000 or more can be “frozen”by the bank or by the bank on behalf of the IRS if the deposit appears“suspicious”. These frozen funds can by tied up to 10 days or until you can provide valid proof where these funds originated.
There are suggestions on how to avoid your bank account from being frozen but none will guarantee you will not wait to have access to your funds. Banks can hold wired funds, checks and cashier checks until funds are honored by the issuing institution. Much like a second party check each bank has a “clearing”period based on different transaction types.
Prior to making the deposit (especially if it is a large deposit) talk with the manager and explain the situation as an investment payout. You may need validation of some kind such as a written statement. This may avoid the IRS from being directly involved and shorten the time frame you will have access to your entire deposited funds.
Please discuss this with your banker, attorney, and/or CPA for further clarification and understanding.
“Walking” out with your money: If you were cashing a check for a few thousand dollars it is likely the banker would place your bills in a zipper bag and let you walk out the door.
However, if you ask to walk out with lets say a few hundred thousand dollars be prepared to wait.
Banks refrain from having large bulks of cash on hand for security purposes and most transactions are electronic.
However if you desire to have “cash” be prepared to make a request anywhere from 24 to 72 hours prior to your withdrawal in order for the bank to make arrangements.
Trusts, LLC, and Other Legal Entities: There are many ways to suggest how to set up your financial portfolio. Some have suggested to set up a trust(s), some have suggested establishing a LLC. Some just plan on cashing in as a single person.
However you decide to set up your arrangement make sure all of the legal documents are close by so that you can refer to them, if need be.
If you desire to open a bank account under a Trust, LLC, etc. these documents will be required. See bank accounts above.
Be careful of online offers and Dinar forums offering trust advice or assistance. Do you research…you don’t know who these people are..Don’t send anyone funds prior to a thorough investigation. Call the Better Business Bureau for advice.
Wills: I realize this sounds morbid but it is essential. I hate to say it but here is a scenario…you cash in and deposit $1 million in your bank account. On the way out of the bank you do your best impression of the Snoopy dance.
Not watching where you are going you come face to face with a large RV…not revaluation but a recreational vehicle! Your RV came twice that day…first to make you wealthy and the second time to meet your maker. So what happens to your $1 million?
This is why it is essential to draw up a will. Even a simple notarized will is better than nothing. Easy wills are found at places like Office Depot…some are free online as well.
Tax: The ugliest three letters ever made up. But it is something we all will deal with. Don’t try to avoid it as you will find yourself regretting you ever did. Its better to place a certain percentage aside allocated just for taxes and never touch it!
These percentages have been quoted all across the spectrum but whatever you decide to allocate..remind yourself not to spend it till you decide to send that check to Uncle Sam.
My advice would be to look up the phone numbers of local CPA’s, CPA/Tax Attorney’s and have their numbers available to make appointments with them post RV.
Get their advice and reconcile their thoughts. Once you pick someone you are comfortable with he/she can walk you through the needed forms and steps.
Of course, choosing a CPA or a Tax Attorney is not that simple…so keep your ears open for a well-qualified person to handle your taxes.
I understand some are saying their are methods to avoid paying taxes on currency exchange. Listen! Be Smart! Get the advice of a tax professional and don’t end up owing money or perhaps be under investigation.
Don’t be fooled…the IRS follows every transaction at banks so just be cautious and pay your taxes.
Post RV Investments: The only advice I can give you here is to… get advice.
Seek the services of a financial consultant, go to the library, Google everything that comes to mind. I will admit that just about any financial advisor that exists would likely roll of out of his chair in laughter if he heard about this investment pre-RV but I would also place a handsome bet that he or she would want your business when you are in search of advice post-RV.
Do your due diligence before you spend money. Don’t be afraid to get second opinions and ask around.
This kind of blessing will likely never happen like this again so be wise.
Also..Be wary of fellow dinar investors asking you to partner with them in an investment. Just because they are a fellow investor doesn’t mean they have your best interest at heart. Be Smart!
Donations/Tithe: I think it is imperative we should all give back, pass it forward, and donate. But do your homework and give your money to honest charities. It’s shameful to think that people make up fraudulent organizations and never spend donations instead they line their greedy pockets. Give to organizations that are close to your heart.
Tithe to your church. The tax man is going to take a chunk of your wealth you might as well offset the tax man by giving those funds to something meaningful and worthwhile.
Document Everything; This can’t be emphasized enough. If you are fortunate to gain a large sum of wealth remind yourself to treat your accounts appropriately and be careful not to let others mishandle your money.
You may have more money than you ever had before but that doesn’t mean you will always have it. Keep records, bank statements, receipts, contracts, agreements, etc.
If you hire a financial advisor be actively involved with your account and have understanding of what your advisor is doing with your money. Also, be aware of all of the fees advisors charge for their services.
After all how many times have you heard of celebrities discovering they are broke because they trusted someone else with their money?
Debt: When the RV occurs you will have been blessed with a sudden amount of wealth. No matter how small or large the sum of your return find it in yourself to reduce your personal debt.
Pay off the mortgage, pay off the credit cards, pay off the installment loans, pay off the student loans, pay it all off. Stop being a slave to debt and avoid at all costs reentering into a lifestyle of owing a creditor.
Pay yourself: There is nothing wrong with spending money on yourself. Take a vacation, buy a car, pay off some bills, go to the mall. Withdraw some “fun”money but take the rest and let the interest and dividends accrue.
Remember to buy smart: Many of us have lived modestly most of our lives and with a sudden amount of cash in the bank your buying potential could be endless. But remember to be smart when making purchases.
Sure you can afford a 10,000 sf house but remember the taxes, utilities, and cost to maintain the home. Sure you can afford a Ferrari, Lamborghini, and a Porsche but remember the maintenance cost associated with these high end cars. Enjoy your wealth…learn to keep it.
Loose Lips, Sinks Ships: Its sad but true…the minute you have money in your bank account will be happy. But if friends and family that are non-dinar investors hear of your recent influx of wealth they are going to want a piece of your pie.
I am sure you are going to want to help your friends and family but do it under your own will and not because of their solicitation. Be quiet and serve your fortune to those with gratitude and need.
Safety: Lets just be honest. There are some cruel people in this world and they will do anything they can to harm you or your family in order to obtain a portion of your wealth.
This refers back to being quiet. Fly under the radar. Live as normal as you can. Enjoy your life but be aware of your surroundings and the people you invite into your life.
Enjoy your life: Money does not buy happiness. Some of the richest people in history were the most miserable. Let the happiness in your life result from living your life right, spending your wealth of time with your family, and being debt free.
Now that you are rich avoid falling into the temptation the desire to become wealthier.
Don’t let money be a driving force in your life. It is perfectly fine to invest and protect your wealth just don’t allow it to consume your life.
These are just a few tips and suggestions. This is my soul my opinion and I am not a financial consultant, CPA, lawyer, and in no capacity have the power to give financial or legal advice however I am a concerned investor that wants all of us to be informed.
Exchange Appointment Cheat Sheet and Supplemental Information From Fleming
Occasionally Dinar Recaps will be posting Exchange Tips and information from our archives for our newest readers that may be helpful for you at our exchange appointments and Post RV. Not all information may apply to you and your personal situation…..Take what you like and leave the rest: Some you may want to save for your own personal records! We hope all our dreams come true very soon ~ Your Dinar Recaps Team
From Recaps Archives
Cheat Sheet for Appointment with Supplemental Information from Fleming
The information in this document is based on the most recent information available. It is not intended to be the authority on the GCR/RV or appointment process. It is expected that there may be changes once final instructions are received.
This information is based on exchanges/ redemptions done in the USA. Each country will have its own process and information should be available for all once notifications have been issued.
The redemption/exchange process is streamlined and will be easy and straightforward. The appointment will only be about 15-20 minutes. You will be in and out quickly.
The current understanding (and subject to change) is there will be a “Safe Web Link” or 800# sent to those who purchased currency/bonds online with a registered dealer. This would include: Banks, Travelex, Great American Coin or with the aggregating sites (example: Dinar Recaps, Dinar Chronicles et al). Currently there are approximately 2 million email addresses.
Occasionally Dinar Recaps will be posting Exchange Tips and information from our archives for our newest readers that may be helpful for you at our exchange appointments and Post RV. Not all information may apply to you and your personal situation…..Take what you like and leave the rest: Some you may want to save for your own personal records! We hope all our dreams come true very soon ~ Your Dinar Recaps Team
From Recaps Archives
Cheat Sheet for Appointment with Supplemental Information from Fleming
The information in this document is based on the most recent information available. It is not intended to be the authority on the GCR/RV or appointment process. It is expected that there may be changes once final instructions are received.
This information is based on exchanges/ redemptions done in the USA. Each country will have its own process and information should be available for all once notifications have been issued.
The redemption/exchange process is streamlined and will be easy and straightforward. The appointment will only be about 15-20 minutes. You will be in and out quickly.
The current understanding (and subject to change) is there will be a “Safe Web Link” or 800# sent to those who purchased currency/bonds online with a registered dealer. This would include: Banks, Travelex, Great American Coin or with the aggregating sites (example: Dinar Recaps, Dinar Chronicles et al). Currently there are approximately 2 million email addresses.
Emails should be coming from Wells Fargo, HSBC, Chase, Bank of America and possibly Fifth Third.
If you do not receive an email, the information will be posted on aggregating sites and/or with those who provide RV Intel.
If you receive an email directly, you may forward it to anyone you gifted currency and/or bonds.
If you received as a gift, you may get the email forwarded to you.
Follow the instructions provided in the email.
You may be asked to verify who you are by answering questions based on publicly available information. This process is similar to when you apply online to open a bank account or a loan.
You may be required to electronically sign an NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement). Read carefully so you understand what you are agreeing to. The NDA is to protect you. Print a copy for your records and for future reference. At the appointment, you will be signing a paper copy of the NDA.
You may be given an 800# or a unique 800# to schedule an appointment. The number may be to a specific location or you will be giving your Zip Code, to be directed to the closest location.
When you call you may be asked if you have Zim, Currency or both. This is because not all locations will be able to redeem Zim. NEVER say how much you have, and they cannot legally ask.
Remember that bonds (Zim) is redeemed, and Currency is exchanged.
You are free to redeem anywhere inside the United States. You are not required to exchange in your home state. It is recommended that if you live in a small town, that you go far enough from home, so you are not recognized. This is for your safety. There are no restrictions if you want to go to another state. You cannot go to another country to exchange. If you are a US citizen living abroad, check with place of exchange on what options you have available to you.
What to bring to appointment:
2 picture IDs – driver’s license, passport, government ID or anything with your picture
2 recent utility bill statements – this verifies your address
If homeless or no permanent address explain this at appointment.
Social Security card and/or Birth certificate. These may not be necessary, but bring especially if you have no picture ID.
If you have a bank account with a Tier 1 bank (HSBC, Chase, WF, Bank of America) bring your account number and routing number (a blank check will have that info.).
If you have a trust, bring the cover and indemnification pages (notarized pages). You may bring the entire trust, but they should only need copies of those pages.
Currencies/Bonds – Separate by country and denomination, large to small, facing in same direction. Place each currency into a small plastic bag.
If you have a lot of currency, recommend you create a tally sheet of how much of each currency/bond you have.
On day of appointment dress professionally. Do not dress to a point that you are uncomfortable.
Allow yourself plenty of time. Know where you are going and where to park if in a large city/urban area. Do not use Uber or Lyft type services. You might consider hiring a professional security company for transportation if safety is a concern.
Do not share with anyone purpose of your appointment or what you are doing.
Make a list of anything that you need in the first 10 days. Do you have any emergency needs like housing or medical, etc.
Rates on currencies are based on Street rate, International and Contract rate. Not all currencies have a Contract rate. You can ask if there is one. You will want to know if there are conditions for receiving the contract rate and what they are. *See supplemental information for definitions.
The Redemption Centers will have a default package. This package includes rates, fees, services and benefits/perks. The default rate will be the International rate. If this is agreeable, you simply will follow through on signing all documents.
Leave with copies of all signed documents and any business cards.
Banks are reporting that there will not be time to create a skeleton trust at appointment. If possible, set up appointment for immediately after exchange to meet with a trust attorney or Trust Co. representative to have a trust created. Be prepared to have a unique trust name picked out. Also, who your beneficiaries will be and a successor trustee (person who will take over for you should you not be able to manage duties). Trust name should not be something associated with you directly.
When you get to the actual exchange process:
They will run your currency/bonds through the DE LaRue machine. This machine counts and verifies the authenticity of your currency.
If you do not like what is being offered, you can ask if any portion is negotiable.
You may be asked what you plan to do with funds. If you are redeeming Zim, the expectation is that you would do humanitarian projects, but is not required. At end of this document is a list of projects that you can choose from to support if you wish. (No longer 80/20 requirement on the Zim)
Historically, they have been looking for the following things in projects:
i. Projects are global in nature – start local and grow outward
ii. Job creation
iii. Duration – multigenerational
iv. Improves economy and helps businesses impacted by Covid
The best way to talk about your projects is to explain a problem and then how you want to fix it. Example: Homelessness – want to build safe affordable housing.
Your project should be typed up in a 1-3-page format with bullet points. This just makes it easy for them to read. Attached at end of this document is a cover sheet for your project. A copy of your project write up will be left at Redemption Center.
If you do not like the default package (rates, fees, services and perks) you may be able to request to talk to someone about what you plan to do and why you need something different than being offered. You may be given a Safe Keeping Receipt (SKR). This is where your currency/Bonds are recorded, and you are given the SKR. You will then work with a Trust company and/ or Wealth Manager to assist with negotiations and preparing the needed information.
Discuss what fees they are charging for exchange. It may be that the fees have been calculated in the rates. It is ok to ask if you can negotiate fees. In many cases, you may be further ahead to just pay the fees. This is something you can ask about. The same is true for services and perks.
If all is agreeable, sign and get copies. Remember that any agreements can be rescinded within 72 hours/3 days by law. You may ask if that time can be extended to allow you time to meet with professionals and to come back and renegotiate in your best interests.
You will open a new bank account for each currency and/or bond you are redeeming/ exchanging. These accounts will be under trust account name if you have one.
Each person will be given a US Treasury Account and be in the QFS.
You can take your spouse to appointment or not. You do not want to take anyone who is not familiar with this process as they may end up slowing everything down with too many questions.
Below are some questions to ask and some may not be necessary under the new QFS:
a. Do the funds from each currency/bond need to be in separate accounts?
b. What about fund protection: Does FDIC still apply, or do I need a Lloyds or Cdars Insurance for amounts over $250,000? Is this something they can assist with?
c. I have been told that these transactions are non-taxable, if not, should that not be true, will you provide in writing that I will have access to the funds to pay taxes.
Ask for a full explanation of what the CAP’s and restrictions are and how they work. How are they scaled and what are the benchmarks for restrictions to be removed?
Read everything they give you including the NDA. If you do not understand, ask until you do. OR if you feel you need help, ask if there is an attorney available who can help.
Be respectful – they are not trying to trick you or deceive you.
Discuss Bank Perks – on the private banking side there are perks that you can request. Understand that you will be paying for them. They typically are tiered – so the more AUM (assets under management) you have, the more options you have.
Let them know you are aware that there will be a number of essential tasks to be addressed in the next 10-15 days. Tell them you will be needing help in setting appointments and managing those tasks. Ask if they can provide you with someone who can help.
Below is a list of possible tasks and list of professionals for short term and long term.
a. Establish primary irrevocable trust and any additional trusts or structures. Basic trust components may include:
i. Complex
ii. Non-grantor
iii. Discretionary
iv. Spendthrift
v. Asset protection
b. Meet with Security and Risk management team
c. Wealth Management Team
d. Attorneys and CPAs
e. Establishing short- and long-term priorities
f. Education for self and family – ask what time frame is for completion
There will be a number of decisions that will need to be made post-exchange appointment including meeting with or hiring professionals to assist you. The list below is intended only as a guide.
a. Accounting / Tax
b. Acquisitions
c. Administrative Assistant
d. Art/Advisory Collection
e. Asset Management
f. Aviation Safety Training
g. Brand Identity / Web Design
h. Charity / Philanthropy
i. Compliance / Oversight
j. Concierge
k. Consultancy
l. Precious Metals
m. Digital Privacy / Cyber Security
n. Education Consultancy / Private Tutor
o. Employee Screening
p. Hiring Advisors / Human Res. Search Team
q. Events/ Lifestyle Management
r. Family Office / Software Solutions
s. Family Video Biographies
t. Genealogy / Family History
u. Governance Specialists
v. Home Entertaining / Party Service
w. Ind. Wealth Mgmnt
x. Insurance
y. Interior Design/ Consultancy
z. Intern. Foreign Exchange
aa. Legal
bb. Medical / Health
cc. Mobile/ Telecomm
dd. Private Banking Adv/instructor
ee. Multi-Dimensional Governance
ff. Family Office
gg. Public Relations/ Comm
hh. Private Aircraft Mgmt/Charter
ii. Property / Hotel / Comm &Res
jj. Security / Risk Mgmt
kk. Security / Protection Services
ll. Succession Estate Planning
mm. Training / Wealth Transition Adv
nn. Trust/Fiduciary
oo. Venture Capital Investments
pp. VIP Travel
Supplemental Information
Many are new to this and often terms are used incorrectly, switched, or interchanged. It is more important that you understand what terms mean when you get to your appointment.
DEFINITIONS
Tier 1 Bank: Tier 1 banks are those that hold the highest assets. They include: include: HSBC, Wells Fargo, Chase, Bank of America.
Full-Service Banks: Banks that offer a full range of services including a foreign exchange department. Credit Unions are not usually Full-Service.
Types of Rates:
Front screen/Street Rate: This is the rate you see when you look to purchase or sell currency. The buy rate is higher than the sell rate and the bank always includes a fee. The fee includes the bank portion and the UST portion.
International Rate/ Back Screen/ Default: This is the rate that is used for trading. It is higher than the front screen/street rate. Example: Street rate per million Dong: $1180. International rate: $470,000. To receive international/default rated does require that you sign an NDA. This protects you and the bank.
Contract Rate: This is a rate that is agreed to between countries. Any contract rate is a written agreement between two parties. When you hear “contract rates” associated with the RV, it is often being misused.
Unless you have a written agreement with another, you do not have a contract rate.
If you negotiate for something different than the default, then you will be signing a written agreement and that would be your contract rate.
In the context of the US, it has written agreements with other countries, specifically Iraq and Vietnam.
With Iraq, it is sometimes referred to as “contract for oil”. This is an agreement between governments. The US holds Iraqi Dinar and will receive that contract rate.
Not all currencies have contract rates.
Currently, if you hold Zim, contract rates will not be available. This is because you will receive more from the Zim than you will with a contracted currency rate.
NDA – Non-disclosure agreement
The NDA is a written agreement between two parties that specifies what cannot be disclosed or shared. Usually there is a time limit, 90 days +. As relates to the RV, you are agreeing to not discuss what rate you received for your currency and Zim. The RV transaction is a private transaction. The UST does not want you talking to the public about your private transaction.
If you choose not to sign an NDA, you will go with the public (Tier 5) and will receive Street Rate.
Who can participate? Generally speaking, you can participate in the RV if you are not and have not participated in gangs, legalized crime, murder, human trafficking etc. If you are unsure, make appointment and ask when you get there.
RV Tiers:
T1 = Governments
T2 = Military, those who put this together, groups
T3 = Humanitarian Organizations/Groups and SKR groups
T4 = Internet group – those who follow what is going on with the RV
T4A = Individuals with SKRs, now part of T3
T4B – Individuals, Internet Group
T5 = Public
SKR: Stands for Safe Keeping Receipt. This is where someone who is licensed and authorized to be a Paymaster (usually an attorney) represents a group of currency holders (were originally done prior to Zim being in the offering). They sign a contract and agree to a specified rate. There are not and have not been any new SKR groups for several years.
Prosperity Packages: These cover a very wide area. Includes funds from large trusts such as St. Germain, Rodriguez, Heritage and Mitterrand Trusts will be used to assist the Common Man and help with some debt relief.
Adjudicated Packages: These are lawsuits where plaintiffs won the legal cases. The largest are: CMKX, Native American Claims, Farm Claims, and others. You will know if you are already a part of these.
CMKX: A diamond mine that oversold stock with the help of the SEC. They were sued by key stockholders and won – often referred to as an Adjudicated Package.
Farm Claims: Lawsuit that involved farmers who were unfairly taken advantage of by bankers. They sued and won.
Currency Basket: Originally there were a few baskets with different countries’ currencies revaluing approximately six months apart. There are 22 currencies that are scheduled to go initially.
Once all currency are asset backed, that currency will be exchanged at 1:1 and it will not matter if it is a Mexican Peso or a Dinar. The RV is about creating a level playing field. Not all currency rates will rise in value and some will fall.
List of currencies:
• US
• UK
• Kuwait
• Canada
• Mexico
• Russia
• China
• Venezuela
• Iranian Rial
• IRAQ
• Indonesia Rupiah
• Malaysia
• Vietnamese
• Brazil
• Saudi Arabia
• Qatar
• United Arab Emirates
• Turkey
• Afghanistan
• India
• Libya
• Japan
If you do not have a project but wish to help, below is list of 15 categories of projects from which you can choose. Each category is associated with an Executive Order (EO). You can look up the EO to learn what the focus is. This will help if you do not have an existing project.
• Infrastructure – (There are 5 EOs related to infrastructure. One is #13807 8/15/2017 – Review purpose and what is needed)
• Energy
• International and American business
• Security
• Violence and criminals
• American Indians, refuges and pacific islanders
• Housing
• Technology and space
• Agriculture, oceans, water
• Health
• Spiritual
• Terrorists
• Education
• Financial and money
• Veterans
Project Cover Sheet
Name of Project
Name of Submitter
Phone number
Email Address
Date of Submission
Description of the project – give as much detail as possible. (If you have a plan or outline prepared, attach this form to front of that plan).