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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Tuesday Late PM 11-17-20

.Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion & News Tuesday Late PM 11-17-20

Zig: Welcome to zig's place, a chat room for dinar speculators and others....discuss any topic that you wish here.Xyz Kurdistan sends a new delegation to Baghdad

Tuesday 17th November 2020 87 Baghdad: Mustafa Ibrahim

The Kurdistan government has shown its willingness to resolve the existing financial disputes between the center and the region, as a Kurdish delegation will visit the capital, Baghdad, this week, to discuss the 2021 budget, and the delivery of oil imports and border crossings.

A source said, in a press statement, that a delegation headed by the Vice President of the Kurdistan Regional Government, Qubad Talabani, which includes the Ministers of Finance and Planning and the Secretary of the Council of Ministers will visit Baghdad for the sake of understanding and dialogue on the 2021 budget.

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion & News Tuesday Late PM 11-17-20

Zig:  Welcome to zig's place, a chat room for dinar speculators and others....discuss any topic that you wish here.Xyz   Kurdistan sends a new delegation to Baghdad

Tuesday 17th November 2020 87  Baghdad: Mustafa Ibrahim

The Kurdistan government has shown its willingness to resolve the existing financial disputes between the center and the region, as a Kurdish delegation will visit the capital, Baghdad, this week, to discuss the 2021 budget, and the delivery of oil imports and border crossings.

A source said, in a press statement, that a delegation headed by the Vice President of the Kurdistan Regional Government, Qubad Talabani, which includes the Ministers of Finance and Planning and the Secretary of the Council of Ministers will visit Baghdad for the sake of understanding and dialogue on the 2021 budget.

He added, "The delegation will focus on the amount of oil that will be delivered to SOMO, the revenues of the border crossings, and how to manage them."  LINK

xyz    Al-Kazemi: Great pressure prevents the prosecution of the corrupt https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Feconomy-news.net%2Fcontent.php%3Fid%3D22745

Xyz   Al-Kazemi: The implementation of agreements and memoranda of understanding depends on the 2021 budget, and there are pressures to prevent the prosecution of the corrupt

Baghdad / Al-Masala: The Prime Minister, Mustafa Al-Kazemi, said, Tuesday, November 17, 2020, that the implementation of agreements and memoranda of understanding with Arab and foreign countries depends on the approval of the budget for the next year 2021, adding that there are pressures to prevent the prosecution of corrupt individuals and corruption whales.

Al-Kazemi said during the cabinet session: We reassure businessmen and investors of extortion, indicating that the implementation of agreements and memoranda of understanding with Arab and foreign countries depends on approving the budget for the next year 2021.

He pointed out that the current government is the first government to hold sessions with institutions not associated with a ministry, pointing out that there is a parliamentary will that has contributed to deleting some important obligations in the law on financing the fiscal deficit and borrowing.

He continued to say that the Council of Ministers voted to extinguish the debts of the Commission to other institutions and ministries, and we are working to overcome all circumstances for conducting the elections, stressing that the Electoral Commission is the first to be affected by the borrowing law for not allocating funds to it, adding that it authorized the Minister of Finance to contract with solid international companies to automate customs, ports and other sectors.

Al-Kazemi said that great corruption and exaggeration of automation contracts for customs and e-government in previous successive governments, denying the existence of any cancellation of the Sino-Iraqi agreement, the country is available as an investment for all countries wishing to invest.

And he continued: We have paid some financial obligations to secure the anti-Coronavirus vaccine, and that the Ministry of Health

xyz   And he continued: We have paid some financial obligations to secure the anti-Coronavirus vaccine, and that the Ministry of Health is preparing the supplies to store the vaccine in high health conditions, indicating that there is cooperation by some parties to limit weapons to the state’s hand only.

He concluded by saying that a cabinet of ministers voted to postpone conducting the population census at the end of this year, and we have achieved more than 70% of the government curriculum. LINK

Spectra   Parisians protest against 'Global Security' bill

Spectra     https://youtu.be/Ewrv602SzcQ

Xyz   Iraq Reparations to Kuwait Extended to 2022   17th November 2020 in Iraq Banking & Finance News, Politics

The United Nations Compensation Commission (UNCC), which was established to pay compensation for losses and damage as a direct result of Iraq's unlawful invasion of Kuwait in 1990, has made available $230 million to the Government of Kuwait towards the Commission's remaining claim with an outstanding award balance.

With this payment, the Commission has paid out $50 billion of the $52.4 billion in awarded compensation, leaving approximately $2.4 billion to be paid to the only claim with an outstanding award balance.

The Commission had been on track to pay the outstanding compensation award in 2021. In light of the effects of the pandemic, the Council noted that the timeline for the completion of the Compensation Commission's mandate is now expected to extend into 2022.

Funds to pay compensation are drawn from the United Nations Compensation Fund, which currently receives 3 per cent of the proceeds generated by the export sales of Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products. https://www.iraq-businessnews.com/2020/11/17/iraq-reparations-to-kuwait-extended-to-2022/

Dave   xyz extend till 2022.....arrg~

xyz   Dave poor Z report you decide, fair and balance ... conspiracy manufacturer keep excelling in dark world

Dave   taking a very long time to pay 2.4 billion

Dave   seems to be stuck there for several yrs......

Dave   a condition of not yet being ready to exit UN sanctions and going global with its currency?

Sheila   convergence

Dave   Bantor of a GCR......Can the Deep state in conjunction with the UN/IMF impose a rate change on CBI.....?

Zig   Dave : :Shhh: LOL....You do realize whom this conversation will bring in here, right?

Zig   Dave : Have you ever listened to @Abe on PTR calls??....a GCR proponent....claims he is in on the meetings about it....as an attorney....

Zig   Seems like BS to me but who knows....

Sheila    Zig At least Abe is saying GCR, not great reset. GCR is a good sign.

Dave   sheila Sign Sign everywhere a Sign....good tune too

Sheila   Dave do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign?

Dave   sheila lol

Dave   just got a seat belt infraction 185 bucks

Dave    i guess not.....

Sheila   Dave revenue producers. no longer peace officers. enforcers. sad, so sad.

Dave   cant speed either esp through school zones.......

Dave   huge fines for that

Sheila   Dave personally, I won't drive without seat belt on. got rear ended by 3/4 Ton pickup. Without that seat belt, I probably not be here today or if here, severely damaged.

Dave   the one time i was not .........they got me

Dave   no speeding tickets in over30/yrs.......

Dave   Karma......

Dave    legalized pot here  (Canada)  .....oblivious to not having to follow all those rules....sheeple?

Dave   our Socialistic Govt has us all Goose stepping in time........Mostly.....?

Spectra   Even Elon Musk said something strange is going on with threw covid Test. He took 4 tests 2 positive 2 negative .The same nurse the same test?

Zig    Amazes me how different people view all of this though....just shows how divided we are in this country now.....

Zig   Dave : As a medical professional you aren't allowed to smoke weed there, are you?

Dave   I believe that law does not discriminate,,,,,,

Dave   at work.......impairment......different story

NORV   Governmental "intentions" to print the Iraqi currency are emerging again, and "finance" is commented

2020-11-17 05:20  Shafaq News / The Parliamentary Finance Committee disclosed, on Tuesday, that the federal government intends to print the local currency to address the economic crisis, indicating that the Iraqi parliament rejects such trends that cause the collapse of the country's economy.    http://rssiraq.com/news/1-6344/

Zig   NORV : Hey @Kap!

NORV   yo

Zig   We want less currency not more!!.....lol

Zig    Well hopefully most of us have only risked what we could afford....and now we just wait.....

NORV    Any idea of a RV is a scam. Never happen. Only with the success of Iraq's economy can the dinar appreciate. And that could take several more years.

NORV   Zig very few do.

Zig    If I knew something would happen within that time frame I would be okay with that.....

Zig   I realize that there are no guarantees with this....

Zig    Not even a penny RV?.....lol....come on!!!

Zig   5 cents and I am gone....lol

Zig   10 cents and I am  :Happier:

Zig    I gave up on thinking $3.....LOL

Zig    I remember my first month in this....thought I would soon be a multi millionaire....listening to BS calls every day....LOL

Zig    I still hold out hope of profiting from this though....just won't become filthy rich....but many out there still think they will reap instant riches....so actually I am in the minority.......

Zig   So even though I hope you are wrong, Kap....I have not seen anyone else be right so who knows....

Zig   The difference between me and most others here is that you don't bother me as long as you do no name-calling.....

Zig  I just started this chat for a little experimenting and some fun.....lol....not to get all upset about what someone thinks, etc....not much bothers me....only one person forced me to do something....well you did too for a bit....lol....you gave me no choice....okay....carry on...............

Professor Dinard   Overnight riches is a dream. Reality is only way to profit is through float of same currency series

Professor Dinard   Which I dont think will happen. That country will have another dictator as soon as western influences leave that dusty butthole of a country

Professor Dinard   Ludacris to believe these people finally sang kumbaya after we destroyed their govt. Their culture is deep rooted in strong leadership and any democratic process will not survive there in the next 10 years imo

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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion Sunday Late PM 1-1-20

.Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion Sunday Late PM 1-1-20

Zig: Welcome to zig's place, a chat room for dinar speculators and others....discuss any topic that you wish here.

Professor Dinard You win

Yachtman Professor Dinard Exactly they said Iraq changed to Oct. from Jan 1 I told them they were wrong. Its always been Jan 1 yet every year they say no its changing to Oct 1. Well 11 straight years for me and still Jan 1.

Yachtman Professor Dinard Didn't want to win. Just gets old the same crap year after year. They are getting things done and it will happen I truly believe that!

Professor Dinard Me no thinks it's happening anytime soon

Yachtman I think next best chance is end of year or Jan 1 timeframe. If not reevaluate at that time.

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion Sunday Late PM 1-1-20

Zig:  Welcome to zig's place, a chat room for dinar speculators and others....discuss any topic that you wish here.

Professor Dinard   You win

Yachtman   Professor Dinard Exactly they said Iraq changed to Oct. from Jan 1 I told them they were wrong. Its always been Jan 1 yet every year they say no its changing to Oct 1. Well 11 straight years for me and still Jan 1.

Yachtman   Professor Dinard Didn't want to win. Just gets old the same crap year after year. They are getting things done and it will happen I truly believe that!

Professor Dinard   Me no thinks it's happening anytime soon

Yachtman   I think next best chance is end of year or Jan 1 timeframe. If not reevaluate at that time.

Professor Dinard   Yea that's cool and all but I dont see the IMF revaluing a country with so much corruption. Or at least corruption that's so careless and apparent as Iraq's govt

Professor Dinard   For all we know a dictator could rise again next year and they go back to the old Saddam days without a central bank and then your dinars are worthless

Professor Dinard   Honestly I wouldn't even blame iraq for that I wish the US got off the ce tral bank system

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Firefarmer   I am so ready for the Iraq people to benifit from the revaluation of the IQD against the US$

Sheila   Firefarmer Yes, agree wholeheartedly.

Anonymous   Hi, www.dinarguru.com has a list of 17 points. The Obama administration achieved 2 points in 8 years. The Trump administration achieved 10 points in a single 4 year term. Joseph Biden (Presidential candidate) policy when he was Obama's deputy to divide Iraq into Sunni, Shia, Kurd control. Also, Joseph Biden is interfering in Brexit which may delay the GCR. Anonymous

Firefarmer   I wonder if there is anything we as individuals we can do to make this rv to happen

Anonymous   http://www.projectspeak.net has a .pdf file with list of 800 numbers of you ask them to upload it again. Anonymous

Firefarmer   @Anonymous I am pretty slow with all due respect what did your post mean/

Sheila   Firefarmer Look on the left side panel of dinargurus... There are 17 points listed with dates done.

Firefarmer   sheila thanks .. I have herd of them

Firefarmer   @Yachtman what has changed since 2009 with the dinar

Professor Dinard   Probably the last group of people on earth to communicate and chat via phone call are gurus

Firefarmer   I have been told by many of my peers to sell my dinar that I was chasing a scam.... It is really hard to keep hope...

xyz   Trump win Florida and Pennsylvania

Firefarmer  xyz tonight?

xyz   Firefarmer rv tonight?

Firefarmer   xyz maybe next week

Sheila   @Firefarmer This will happen. You have to remember as part of the military industrial complex aka war machine, a countries currency is always reset, revalued to reflect their global financial position. This may very well be the last country to experience a revaluation of this magnitude.

Firefarmer   sheila Thanks

EYEGUY   the sooner the nicer

Firefarmer   EYEGUY I will agree with that

Firefarmer   EYEGUY and your guess is??

EYEGUY   the date or the rate

Firefarmer   yes

Firefarmer   both

EYEGUY   as far as date only the shadow knows ....I can tell you @ 1to1 I will be happy ....and the more the merrier

Firefarmer   I sure like the way you think

Sheila   Thinking it needs to be at least 1 to 1 in order to depeg from the petro-dollar. Rates after that look to parity with other country's rates in that region.

EYEGUY   I am hoping it is soon tonight would be impressive so many mechanism`s involved that I or we are not aware of soooooooooooooo................We WAIT :Think:

Firefarmer   sheila You are pretty sharp on this ....Thanks

EYEGUY   yepper

Sheila   Firefarmer These are not my original thoughts. These a compilation of reading many other people posting their opinions.

EYEGUY   we too .....we have to be careful to use common snse

EYEGUY   $en$e

Firefarmer   sheila I would really consider jumping out at 1:1

EYEGUY   at least a portion ....maybe be debt free with some investment ......and of course some play $

Firefarmer   I would just put it on the bill as far as it will go

Sheila   Firefarmer Some not all. Recently a friend told me to exchange a small amount to stabilize my financial needs. Then hold. It will most likely go up because of hedge funds. Then sell when it hits between 8 and 10. May go up to 16, but that would rise quick and fall like a ton of rocks. That's where the big boys play. We are not in that league. So they told me to exchange as soon as it hits that sweet spot of 8 to 10.

EYEGUY   as much as I would love that rate .....I dont feel it maybe 4

Firefarmer   I will not get greedy maybe keep 20% for the 8 to 10

EYEGUY   it might take awhile .....out @1 and we should shine with it life is short .....to each his or her own

Firefarmer   Life is short .... I have been in this since 2004

EYEGUY   17 Im close to that too an old fart

EYEGUY   not saying your an old fart LOL

Sheila   Firefarmer Maybe not greed - opportunity. Can always exchange at 6... lolol

EYEGUY   so true

Firefarmer   being debt free appeals to me

Firefarmer   EYEGUY I think that I qualify as an old fart

Sheila   Firefarmer don't have any debt. living a very frugal life that feels like debt.

EYEGUY   even though at times this is frustrating ......best lottery ticket one could have bought into .....

Sheila   EYEGUY each day is full of hope for me

Firefarmer   EYEGUY agree

EYEGUY   aw sheila that is terrific

Sheila   it's like Christmas every day, waiting to see what's under the tree. yet with this, I get up, do my stuff, turn on the computer and check to see what's shaking. lolol

Sheila   knowing it will show up that one fine day

EYEGUY   when it happens it will be remarkable ....I hate to think I spent all this time following it ......for NaNa but on the other hand I will not get rid of any for fear of missing it

Firefarmer   That is why I say next week.....it seems to always be this week and next week is always in the future. When it happens I will take advantage of it and deal with the new problems that being debt free bring

Sheila  One man's opinion - (11-01) OMG #2 -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO9T-KtTLOE

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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion Sunday 1-1-20

.Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion Sunday 1-1-20

Zig: Welcome to zig's place, a chat room for dinar speculators and others....discuss any topic that you wish here.

Vic Hi Zig, please check your email

Zig @Vic : Hi Vic...okay will do...

Vic Mod's and all here this is Vic from the gatekeepers, I'm wanting to do a very intense call either today or within the next day. I need all of your support to get out info.,

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion Sunday 1-1-20

Zig:  Welcome to zig's place, a chat room for dinar speculators and others....discuss any topic that you wish here.

Vic   Hi Zig, please check your email

Zig   @Vic : Hi Vic...okay will do...

Vic   Mod's and all here this is Vic from the gatekeepers, I'm wanting to do a very intense call either today or within the next day. I need all of your support to get out info.,

Sheila   @Vic What is "gatekeepers"?

Vic   Hi Sheila, I have a call that I use to do weekly. The Gatekeepers.

Sheila   @Vic Can you post link or numbers?

Vic   I'll will after Zig and I have a call in regards to my call. Thank you. IQD calls has my years of calls in their archives.I'll

Sheila   @Vic got it. never mind. thx

Zig   sheila : I thought you have been in this a long time...never heard of Vic??....I believe he started out as part of the IQD Team....then branched out....right, Vic?

Vic   I hope you all saw the TRUMP Train escorting the Biden bus out of Texas on i35!

Vic   No, my first call was with the MTT with Wayne

Sheila   Zig don't go to iqdcalls very often. there is only so much waking time in the day. lolol

Sheila   @Vic yes, saw that video

Zig   sheila : I am talking about years ago....

Sheila   @Vic are the number/pin still good for dial in? when is this call taking place?

Vic   Yes, Sheila. The Gatekeepers team conference call was, Joey, T Dawg, Whiskey 6, Ashley my daughter in the background and myself, Vic

Sheila   @Vic last CC on iqdcalls shows mid 2018. so nothing since then?

Vic   Yes, I sent Zig a message to call me when he can. Will get all info., for all here

Sheila   @Vic will keep this web page open -- thx for including us here in Zig's chat.

Vic   Yeah, I've been in the back ground watching a lot of Non-sense being spoken bye many that really do not have a Road Map! I'm going to cover a lot of ground in this call. I Always said and many can agree that through the years, I always reminded many that Brexit and Basel lll are important measures to keep our eye's on

Zig   @Vic : IMO as I indicated in my email to you, you are better off going via IQD Calls as they have lots of traffic...this site gets very little exposure....a tiny amount of traffic

vic   Will do, thanks. Grace and Peace to you all. Make sure you all get out and Vote

Sheila   @vic @Vic Still would appreciate you posting your Call info here. I will send it to my email list.

vic   Thank you

Sheila   @Vic Will www.iqdcalls.com be posting your CC for Sunday?

Zig   sheila : He is not doing a call yet....last one was a long time ago....

sheila   Zig okay... will watch iqdcalls. figure must be something worth listening to since he hasn't done a call since June 2018. Do you know this Vic guy?

Zig   Only know @Vic via emailing

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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Monday 10-19-20

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Monday 10-19-20

Sheila Not sure if this article is discussing 1:1 or .86:1 or 3.22:1 ... ??? Anyone have an interpretation?

A director in the central bank sets his forecast for the dollar exchange rate within days and reveals a forthcoming measure

News source / Baghdad today Baghdad today – Baghdad The General Director of the Central Bank branch in Basra Governorate, Qasim Raheeb, suggested that the exchange rate would continue to decline in the coming days.

Raheef said in a press statement, followed by (Baghdad Today), that “the statements made by some members of Parliament, and other parties, that there is an intention to raise the exchange rate of the dollar in the coming days, created a crisis through the increase in demand for the dollar, which led to an increase in its exchange rate. For high numbers ”.

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Monday 10-19-20

Sheila   Not sure if this article is discussing 1:1 or .86:1 or 3.22:1 ... ??? Anyone have an interpretation?

A director in the central bank sets his forecast for the dollar exchange rate within days and reveals a forthcoming measure

News source / Baghdad today   Baghdad today – Baghdad   The General Director of the Central Bank branch in Basra Governorate, Qasim Raheeb, suggested that the exchange rate would continue to decline in the coming days.

Raheef said in a press statement, followed by (Baghdad Today), that “the statements made by some members of Parliament, and other parties, that there is an intention to raise the exchange rate of the dollar in the coming days, created a crisis through the increase in demand for the dollar, which led to an increase in its exchange rate. For high numbers ”.

He continued: “There is no truth to the news that talk about an overnight decision by the central bank to raise the dollar exchange rate,” noting that “the central bank will launch sums of money to reduce the dollar’s exchange rate to 121 or 120 for every 100 US dollars, on selling exchanges. And buy the dollar, within days. ” 

https://search4dinar.wordpress.com/2020/10/18/a-director-in-the-central-bank-sets-his-forecast-for-the-dollar-exchange-rate-within-days-and-reveals-a-forthcoming-measure/

RodTahoe  sheila My read on that article, by the way is great, it is 1:1. In other words from the way it is written would say the value is $1.20 or 1.21. Seems like a leak from a CBI branch, with the main CBI office submitting a denial, or cover up.

Ubique   Martin Geddes On Q

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Ubique   Now that the Dems backs are ‘against the wall’, what can the American people expect in the next 2 weeks? (and perhaps beyond?) Blame culture - Russia for example? Cyber attacks? Arming the radical left? Missile attacks?

Ubique   Scary thoughts! But nothing anymore would surprise me.

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Xyz   Talks between Al-Kazemi and his French counterpart: to strengthen cooperation and restore Iraq to its international status

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Talks between Al-Kazemi and his French counterpart: to strengthen cooperation and restore Iraq to its international status

Baghdad – people   On Monday, Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi discussed with his French counterpart Jean Castex ways to strengthen joint relations between the two countries and return Iraq to its international status.

 Al-Kazemi's media office said in a statement that "People" received a copy, (October 19, 2020), that "the prime minister held his first talks on Monday morning in the French capital Paris, with his meeting with French Prime Minister Jean Castex, in the presence of a number of ministers from the two countries."

According to the statement, "during the meeting, they discussed ways to develop bilateral relations between the two countries and to strengthen them in the economic, investment, security and health fields."

He added, "The situation in the region was discussed, and views were exchanged on a number of issues."

Al-Kazemi stressed "the importance of strengthening cooperation between the two countries in many sectors, as the government seeks solid relations with the countries of the world based on common interests, and to restore Iraq to its international status."

For his part, "the French Prime Minister affirmed his country's keenness to support Iraq at various levels." https://www.nasnews.com/view.php?cat=43084

xyz   Member of Parliamentary Finance: The Central Bank does not need to print the currency ... the dinar is threatened with collapse

10/19/2020 09:53  Baghdad today – Diyala  The member of Parliamentary Finance, Representative Sherwan Mirza, confirmed today, Monday (10/19-2020), that printing amounts of banknotes are linked to hard currency at the Central Bank of Iraq.

Mirza said in an interview with (Baghdad Today), "The printing of any sums of Iraqi cash is mainly related to the size of the financial cover for hard currencies at the Central Bank," noting that "any printing operation without a financial cover will lead to the collapse of the exchange rate, and thus lead To the collapse of the Iraqi dinar."

He added, "The central bank has sufficient cash reserves, and it does not need to print any additional cash notes."

"The talk that has spread recently about printing a new currency and pumping it into the Iraqi markets by the Central Bank is not correct, and it was denied in official statements by the Central Bank, which confirmed that even the exchange rate of the dinar against the dollar," he said.

Yesterday, a member of the Parliamentary Finance Committee, Naji Al-Saeedi, saw that printing currency by the Central Bank is a legal violation, and will harm the country's economic position and float the currency.

Al-Saeedi said in an interview with (Baghdad Today), "The Central Bank used the method of printing currency, although it is a step inconsistent with the bank law, which confirms that printing banknotes is a routine technical procedure practiced by the bank according to the requirements of cash circulation." https://baghdadtoday.news/news/135066/%D8%B9%D8%B6%D9%88-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84

Tebow  Unemployment Rate (August - most recently available unemployment data for all 50 states & DC):

Blue States: 10.6%   Purple States: 7.8%   Red States: 6.6%

Total COVID Deaths per Million People (through 10/14):

Blue States: 779   Purple States: 530   Red States: 556

Note on methodology: These are not simple averages of the states, but are actual totals. So, for example, the “Blue State” calculation for deaths per million equals the total number of COVID deaths in the Blue States divided by the total population of the Blue States (converted to a rate per million).

TWW   A prominent politician: The Iraqi delegation will discuss in London the "normalization" between Baghdad and Tel Aviv   19th October, 2020

TWW   Bahrain and Israel .. 7 memoranda of understanding and an embassy in Manama

18th October, 2020................The UAE government ratifies the normalization treaty with Israel  19th October, 2020

Zig   TWW : Interesting how some countries are improving relationships with Israel now....Thanks.....

xyz   Member of Parliamentary Finance: The Central Bank does not need to print the currency ... the dinar is threatened with collapse  

10/19/2020 09:53   Baghdad today – Diyala   The member of Parliamentary Finance, Representative Sherwan Mirza, confirmed today, Monday (10/19-2020), that printing amounts of banknotes are linked to hard currency at the Central Bank of Iraq.

Mirza said in an interview with (Baghdad Today), "The printing of any sums of Iraqi cash is mainly related to the size of the financial cover for hard currencies at the Central Bank," noting that "any printing operation without a financial cover will lead to the collapse of the exchange rate, and thus lead To the collapse of the Iraqi dinar."

He added, "The central bank has sufficient cash reserves, and it does not need to print any additional cash notes."

"The talk that has spread recently about printing a new currency and pumping it into the Iraqi markets by the Central Bank is not correct, and it was denied in official statements by the Central Bank, which confirmed that even the exchange rate of the dinar against the dollar," he said.

Yesterday, a member of the Parliamentary Finance Committee, Naji Al-Saeedi, saw that printing currency by the Central Bank is a legal violation, and will harm the country's economic position and float the currency.

Al-Saeedi said in an interview with (Baghdad Today), "The Central Bank used the method of printing currency, although it is a step inconsistent with the bank law, which confirms that printing banknotes is a routine technical procedure practiced by the bank according to the requirements of cash circulation." https://baghdadtoday.news/news/135066/%D8%B9%D8%B6%D9%88-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84

TWW   Zig Me being Jewish, it sooooths my soul to see all this happening,

xyz    Newly released videos show Michigan militia training for Gretchen Whitmer kidnap plot https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/gretchen-whitmer-militia-kidnap-michigan-training-videos-court-latest-b1106900.html

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Xyz CBI NEWS/ANNOUNCEMENTS

The Central Bank comments on the comments to reduce the price of the dinar against the dollar

October 18, 2020 The Central Bank of Iraq confirms that the statements that have spread recently regarding (reducing the exchange rate of the Iraqi dinar against the dollar) represent the viewpoint of those who stated it and do not represent the official position of the Central Bank, and this was accompanied by a number of rumors launched by speculators, which affected the price (temporarily).

This bank declares that the exchange rate is fixed and unchanged, and that its monetary policy is clear and transparent. Note that its foreign currency reserves are "very good" according to all international indicators, in a way that enables it to overcome the current crisis that the country is going through.

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Sunday 10-18-20

Xyz    CBI NEWS/ANNOUNCEMENTS

The Central Bank comments on the comments to reduce the price of the dinar against the dollar

October 18, 2020  The Central Bank of Iraq confirms that the statements that have spread recently regarding (reducing the exchange rate of the Iraqi dinar against the dollar) represent the viewpoint of those who stated it and do not represent the official position of the Central Bank, and this was accompanied by a number of rumors launched by speculators, which affected the price (temporarily).

This bank declares that the exchange rate is fixed and unchanged, and that its monetary policy is clear and transparent. Note that its foreign currency reserves are "very good" according to all international indicators, in a way that enables it to overcome the current crisis that the country is going through.

This bank hopes that the media will rely exclusively on the sources of the Central Bank in this regard.

The Central Bank of Iraq   Media Office https://cbi.iq/news/view/1580

Xyz   Iraqi Prime Minister Heading to Europe for Official Visits     kadhimi

Iraqi Prime Minister Mustafa al-Kadhimi will pay an official visit on top of a high-level delegation to meet with officials in London, Paris, and Berlin.

In remarks, the German embassy was quoted as saying that Kadhimi will tackle bilateral ties, including cooperation in the war against terrorism and the economic crisis during his upcoming meeting with Chancellor Angela Merkel.

Kadhimi’s agenda for his visits to London and France is believed to be similar.

According to a statement by Iraq’s Central Bank, whose director is accompanying PM Kadhimi, the trip is said to last four days. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/50225/Iraqi-Prime-Minister-Heading-to-Europe-for-Official-Visits

EYEGUY   Come on Iraq !!!! do it already ......Z I know you KNow where the button is Please push it   I think it is SOON

Ubique   Insurrection & Violence  A Citizens Guide - Sept 2020

https://unconstrainedanalytics.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Insurrection_and_Violence_Final.pdf

xyz   Russian millionaire Sergey Young invested millions in the so-called "science of immortality", today, Sunday, spending about 100 million US dollars on biotechnology to extend human life for a period of up to 200 years. https://www.dijlah.tv/index.php?page=article&id=266893

xyz   "the white paper included reducing salaries and adopting austerity in monetary policy," noting that "the matter raised concerns of merchants and capital owners and pushed them to withdraw hard currency from the market, which led to its rise ." https://aynaliraqnews.com/index.php?aa=news&id22=139922

xyz   The Central Bank Will Participate In Al-Kazemi's Visit To Europe To Raise The Name Of Iraq From The High Risks

On Sunday, the Central Bank of Iraq revealed that its governor is part of the delegation headed by Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi to visit several European countries.

A statement by the Central Bank's Media Office, received by Al-Mustaqilla, said today, Sunday, that the bank’s governor, Mustafa Ghaleb Mukhaif, “will participate in the company of a high-level government delegation headed by the Prime Minister this Sunday on a visit to France, Germany and the United Kingdom.”

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The statement indicated that frightening will meet "during the four-day visit with counterparts to discuss a number of common issues, especially removing Iraq from the European Union's high-risk list as well as discussing the development of banking relations and financial investment between Iraq and these countries because of the economic weight they constitute in Europe and the world ”.

A government source previously reported, to Shafaq News, that Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi made a European tour at the head of a high-level government delegation.

He indicated that the tour includes all of London, Paris and Berlin, during which a number of agreements are concluded at various levels. (End) https://www.mustaqila.com/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B1%D9%83%D8%B2%D9%8A-%D8%B3%D9%88%D9%81-%D9%86%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%83-%D8%A8%D8%B2%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%83%D8%A7%D8%B8%D9%85%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%89-%D8%A7/

xyz   Iraq’s Central Bank is at risk of losing its independence https://www.rudaw.net/english/analysis/16102020

EYEGUY   come on Iraq!!!!

xyz    Iraq's Central Bank "at Risk of Losing its Independence"

18th October 2020 in Iraq Banking & Finance News, Politics   Finance Minister Ali Allawi said in a press conference following the adoption of the White Paper for Economic Reform by the Council of Ministers on October 13:

"... we have a solid and strong relationship with the Central Bank for the purpose of unifying monetary and financial policies, and this will provide us with the possibility to cover all the requirements and entitlements of the salaries of employees and retirees."

This statement went unnoticed by all journalists, pundits and analysts. Nobody noticed the attempt of the Iraqi government to undermine the independence of the Central Bank of Iraq (CBI) to implement the financial policies approved by the government. https://www.iraq-businessnews.com/2020/10/18/iraqs-central-bank-at-risk-of-losing-its-independence/

Xyz   Report warns of Possible Collapse in value of Iraqi Dinar

17th October 2020 in Iraq Banking & Finance News, Politics

By John Lee.

An Iraqi government white paper has warned of a possible collapse in the value of the Iraqi dinar.

According to Farhad Alaaldin, writing for Rudaw, the recently-approved white paper refers on page 37 to the danger of using the Central Bank of Iraq (CBI) as a source of financing, saying that the authors believe it "will lead to severe pressure on the CBI's reserves and the resulting unsustainable future consequences."

He adds that this view was further confirmed by the group of experts writing the White Paper on page 42, who state that:

"Indirect monetary financing by the CBI is the only remaining source... The need for this reserve to finance imports of goods and services means its will drop dangerously to low levels within nine months, which will ultimately lead to a real crisis in value of the Iraqi dinar, accompanied by the possibility of a collapse in its value."

More here.   (Source: Rudaw) https://www.iraq-businessnews.com/2020/10/17/report-warns-of-possible-collapse-in-value-of-iraqi-dinar/

xyz   Cougar said {to the Euphrates News} that "there are no expectations to raise the dollar exchange to 1500 dinars," noting that "the exchange rate will be fixed in the budget and it determines its paths."

He pointed out that "in the event that the state budget is updated at a new exchange rate that differs from the context of the supply throughout the 17 years in the budgets, it will affect the purchasing power of the currency and the citizen will be the main victim."

Couger said, "The decline in the exchange rate or its rise occurs when the required liquidity is not available or vice versa is more than necessary," calling on the central bank to "provide the market with its needs of the currency https://alforatnews.com/news/كوجر-سعر-صرف-الدولار-سيثبت-في-الموازنة-ويحذر-من-تداعيات-ارتفاعه-الى-1500-دينار

xyz   Iran says US arms embargo on Tehran has been lifted https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iran/18102020

EYEGUY   Sure hope any negative news out of Iraq is meant as a distraction

xyz   Finance Minister: There is a political will to implement tough reform http://www.sotaliraq.com/2020/10/18/وزير-المالية-هناك-رغبة-سياسية-لتنفيذ-إ/

xyz   The State Department announces the formation of a committee to schedule the redeployment of US forces outside Iraq http://www.sotaliraq.com/2020/10/16/الخارجية-تعلن-تشكيل-لجنة-بشأن-جدولة-إع/

EYEGUY   HUmmmm interesting

TWW   Nawar Al-Saadi: It is not in Iraq's interest to float its currency. Do you support floating the dinar during the current stage?

The demand to float the dinar is a big mistake, because the poor will pay the price. It is not in the interest of the Iraqi financial system to raise the exchange rate of the dollar, because it will lead to a decrease in the price of the Iraqi dinar and a decrease in purchasing power and will lead to inflation, and that the classes with limited income and salaries will be the first affected by this decision.

In a simple arithmetic process, if $ 100 = 120,000 dinars after the float, it will be = 150,000 dinars at the very least, and therefore if your salary is 600,000 dinars, its real value is 400,000 dinars. Obtaining it or the habit of buying it here leads to a significant increase in inflation, with the rest of the current problems such as facing Corona, unemployment, poor services, security challenges, and debts all lead to a complete economic collapse.

Sheila   date and rate - linchpin?

TWW   lolololol

Sheila   @TWW Do you have opinion on Monday being another Black Monday like October 19, 1987?

TWW   Has happened many times like in 1989

Sheila   Keep reading about the Big Bang for Monday? Ominous.

TWW   sheila 1929: The Crash of '29.

1973: The OPEC Embargo.

1981: The Early-'80s Recession.

1987: Black Monday.

2001: The Dot-Com Crash.

2008: The Great Recession.

Sheila   Remember all of those. lolol lolol

Sheila   Except 1929. lolol - heard about that from my grandfather.

TWW   Dates & numbers r easy to remember

Sheila   experienced all except 1929

TWW  me too

Sheila   gosh darn, eye am getting old... lolol -- eye sure am laughing a lot today.

TWW   laughing is great for ur body & soul

TWW  do u own ZIM notes

Sheila   got a few   you?

TWW   yes, readin something now abt it...bk shortly

TWW  ZIM$ going GOLD Backed????  https://dailynews.co.zw/articles-2019-11-07-amg-boss-proposes-gold-backed-zim-currency-to-rbz/

Sheila  excellent news!!!

TWW  May need to 'copy & paste' https://dailynews.co.zw/articles-2019-11-07-amg-boss-proposes-gold-backed-zim-currency-to-rbz/

Sheila   So this article appears the day before the supposedly big bang Monday?

Sheila   Well, not the day before... Nov 7, 2019? Guess we all had almost a year's notice.


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Zig Too bad that there are people out there who love ruining things for others...I would have loved to keep this room OPEN....

Tebow Zig Are you closing the room again?

Zig Tebow : LOL....No....the room is actually always CLOSED....except to those who have STARS....

Zig See, when I CLOSED the room, or LOCKED it in the past, you have seen that I could always get in and post....that is because I am an ADMIN....Any ADMIN still has access to the room when it is CLOSED....so every member is made an ADMIN and can always get in....

Zig Referrals will be the only way we will acquire new members going forward...If you would like to refer someone address me in the chat...when I see your post I will ask you to "PM" your referral's desired username and preferably a 5 or 6 digit number for his/her password...

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Zig   Too bad that there are people out there who love ruining things for others...I would have loved to keep this room OPEN....

Tebow   Zig Are you closing the room again?

Zig   Tebow : LOL....No....the room is actually always CLOSED....except to those who have STARS....

Zig  See, when I CLOSED the room, or LOCKED it in the past, you have seen that I could always get in and post....that is because I am an ADMIN....Any ADMIN still has access to the room when it is CLOSED....so every member is made an ADMIN and can always get in.... 

Zig   Referrals will be the only way we will acquire new members going forward...If you would like to refer someone address me in the chat...when I see your post I will ask you to "PM" your referral's desired username and preferably a 5 or 6 digit number for his/her password...

Zig   I will register your referral and post when he/she is now activated and may post...OR your referral could register on their own once you PM their username to me...then I will post when he/she is activated, etc...Thanks...hopefully you will start referring....Also, if anyone out there recognizes someone here and would like to be referred, contact them..

UNEEK   I found this out late last night - President and wife tested positive to Covid-19

UNEEK   https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-first-lady-test-positive-covid-19-n1241769?fbclid=IwAR26nvUkR_kYhoTh0kVZPwtIuaZNLDCmEjqbTM57qtSNZbCwujy-lxMbKjg

Zig   UNEEK : I am amazed that President Trump went this long without testing positive because of the amount of exposure he has had for months.....

UNEEK   Zig yes I get what you're saying but I feel it is kinda the same with others as well - many people - what about the protesters? It is a very unfortunate situation we all face right now - there is much to be considered even with wearing masks and not wearing the masks - so much still we may not know - The virus is very real but there are many who "feel" that they are less susceptible to it - and live their lives being safe and aware without being afraid to go out in public - I myself do not take the flu shots - I will not take them - My choice - but I do wear the masks as it is mandatory in some places - I am hoping that the President and wife will get through this with little to no complications

Spectra   The problem with antibody testing is that there are seven different coronaviruses known to cause respiratory illness in humans. 2 Four of them cause symptoms associated with the common cold:

Spectra   Trump will be fine unles someone is purposly trying to hurt him

Spectra   Red Line War Room Ep17 (Trump has mild Covid-19 symptoms) by Dr. Paul Cottrell https://youtu.be/vdd9i_GWhjQ

Spectra   https://youtu.be/vdd9i_GWhjQ

Spectra   MILD

LeLe   Spectra thanks for the video. My prayers are with Our President and First Lady and all who has, had or have the virus.

123789   So did the QFS system start yesterday Oct 1 2020 as has been touted for some time now? Is any of the intel we've been fed coming to fruition here in Oct? Is it all BS? Please, lets start a dialog about this. What is everyone here for if not to discuss the RV/GESARA/QFS

Zig   123789 : All topics are fine here...as you have seen...so all you can do is introduce whatever you wish and see if anyone has interest...Yes, the chat was established to discuss currency speculations, etc...Iraq news...rumors, intel, whatever...but not limited to that....If you know anyone that you would like to refer please do....invite anyone with similar interests, etc...

Zig   Someone did post a video link regarding "QFS" so perhaps that person will reply...I do not remember who posted it.....

Spectra   Trump is doing an interview tonight on Hannity. Looks like he is not too sick...

sheila   I really don't like to join any organized groups any more. Really enjoy my freedom to think for myself. I actually watch the speeches. I read the reports. Then I make my evaluation based on what I hear and read for myself. Don't always like what's there. Yet take the best and leave the rest. No one is perfect. I look for progress and the intent to do the best they can given the situation at hand.

LeLe   Keep Our President and First Lady in our Thoughts and Prayers. Also pray for those who are in paths way of the virus.

Sparky   LeLe ...heard he's taking a flight out of Walter Reed straight to Moscow...

Sheila   What if this weekend is "THE" weekend? Such a great thought to have right now.

Sparky  ... https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/05/biden-2020-president-facts-what-you-should-know-campaign-121422 ...

Sparky   sheila ...yes, a wonderful thought indeed...

Sheila   heard from some people today. they said to look for it this weekend. I laughed. I look for it every weekend. lolol lolol lolol

Sparky   ... sheila ...have you thought about the when / if scenario ?

Sparky   ...say, if it comes in one to one ?

Sheila   1:1 is good for me. You just have to decide that enough will be enough. 1:1 or 1:3.80 plus. Just have to scale up or down. I am frugal by nature. I have always shopped consignment and bought used, even when I made a very good salary. I do not pay full retail for depreciating assets like clothes and cars.

PM Sheila   And when I donate to a charity, it is directly to that cause. In the past, I have sponsored many displaced children (county homes?) and sponsored them after they foster out of the system. Provided funds to get them into trade programs or apprenticeships. That is what I plan to do again, except larger scale.

Spectra   sheila God Bless you

Spectra   sheila  :)

Sheila  And I always remained Anonymous. Did nothing for the recognition. Thanks. Yes, I am blessed. Every day I wake up and I'm still breathing - that's just bonus!!! lolol lolol

Spectra  sheila You are contributing beautifully. This is exactly what we need more of in this world.

Sheila  Got into trouble at work many years ago because I wouldn't donate to United Way. My money went straight to the county home. Manager wrote me up as being anti-social. He was a **********.  And he got fired a couple of years later for discrimination. karma --- lolol

Sheila  no accolades necessary. decided in my 20's how I wanted to give back. chose that path. never wavering in that commitment.

Sheila  my contribution now is books. don't have the extra funds like I once had. yet I pick up used books at local flea markets at bulk prices. so I donate those as I find them.

Sparky   sheila ...good stuff...

sheila  every drop makes a mighty ocean

Sparky   sheila ...what you said previously was straight I am frugal by nature. I have always shopped consignment and bought used, even when I made a very good salary. I do not pay full retail for depreciating assets like clothes and cars.

Sheila   you do this?

Sparky   sheila ...of course...always...everything is negotiable...have been since I was on my paper route...

sheila   even when I was young, wore hand-me-downs from cousins. or from people in the community. people would swap clothes to help out - lived deep in farm country.

Sheila   common ground - cool

Sparky   ...I didn't realize how rich I was, until many years after...

Sparky   ...it is the relationships that I remember...

Sheila   I know that we were not even close to middle class. Widowed mother, about two weeks pregnant when daddy died, her raising four kids, one on the way, burying husband/father. We were definitely loved and wanted. Learned work ethics at very young age. Never fully appreciated all that until later in life.

Sheila   love my life. made my choices. I am here, I am now, then forward... we are in the middle of an amazing opportunity.

Sheila   Anyone else thinks it's going to happen this weekend?

Sparky   sheila ...I am hopeful...

sheila   You will become one of the "haves"... Let me know when your viewpoint shifts. lolol

Zig   Some of the people reading may wonder why this room is "Via Referral Only"....It is because there was some trouble here that I let go for too long..I wanted this to be an "open room" but it seems that always leads to problems from my experience...Keeping it this way makes it easy to stop any problems as access can be quickly denied....hopefully our members will refer others and if you recognize anyone here from elsewhere, contact them and ask to be referred....

Zig   If your referral would rather just register on their own that would be fine....as long as you tell me via PM the name that he/she will be registering....I would have to give them access and would post when I do....Thanks....

Zig   People who just discovered this chat and have not read my older posts will not know that you can't just register and post without further action on my part....and that  MOST new members will be via referrals from existing members....but from time to time I will take a chance....

 Zig   You are still able to register here though you can't enter unless I activate you...I may take a chance and do that from time to time for a non-referral....you'll know if I do so because I will post and tell you....depends on my mood....lol....it is a risk so I won't do it often but ya never know....lol

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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Wednesday Afternoon 9-30-20

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Zig People who just discovered this chat and have not read my older posts will not know that you can't just register and post without further action on my part....and that MOST new members will be via referrals from existing members....but from time to time I will take a chance....Now Kathy, seeing that she could not post after registering, may not return if she is unfamiliar with the room......

Zig You are still able to register here though you can't enter unless I activate you...I may take a chance and do that from time to time for a non-referral....you'll know if I do so because I will post and tell you....depends on my mood....lol....it is a risk so I won't do it often but ya never know....lol

Zig I am kind of surprised that Dinar Recaps still posts some of this chat...not often as there hasn't been much news, etc. posted here lately...but they posted some of it from yesterday https://dinarrecaps.com/our-blog/zigs-place-chat-room-discussion-and-news-tuesday-9-29-20

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Wednesday  Afternoon 9-30-20

Zig   People who just discovered this chat and have not read my older posts will not know that you can't just register and post without further action on my part....and that MOST new members will be via referrals from existing members....but from time to time I will take a chance....Now Kathy, seeing that she could not post after registering, may not return if she is unfamiliar with the room......

Zig   You are still able to register here though you can't enter unless I activate you...I may take a chance and do that from time to time for a non-referral....you'll know if I do so because I will post and tell you....depends on my mood....lol....it is a risk so I won't do it often but ya never know....lol

Zig   I am kind of surprised that Dinar Recaps still posts some of this chat...not often as there hasn't been much news, etc. posted here lately...but they posted some of it from yesterday https://dinarrecaps.com/our-blog/zigs-place-chat-room-discussion-and-news-tuesday-9-29-20

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Spectra   I am not voting . Because I don't like any of them.Trump will win though watch... The lesser of both evils...or is he?   na they both work for bad people   We never see a really decent person Run for the presidency .The whole thing makes me sick..

UNEEK   This should help a few people understand.......

If you go to the southwest desert and catch 100 red fire ants, as well as, 100 large black ants and put them in a jar, at first, nothing will happen.

However, if you violently shake the jar and dump them back on the ground, the ants will fight until they eventually kill each other.

The thing is, the red ants think the black ants are the enemy and vice versa, when in reality, the real enemy is the person who shook the jar.    This is exactly what’s happening in society today.

Liberal vs Conservative  --  Black vs White  -- Pro Mask vs Anti Mask  -- Vax vs Anti Vaxx  -- Rich vs Poor  -- Man vs Woman — Cop vs Citizen  -- Healthy vs Sick  -- Young vs Elderly  -- Science vs Fear

The real question we need to be asking ourselves is who’s shaking the jar and why?

Spectra  Good point .The only problem i see is not enough people care.

UNEEK  I feel like people care but feel more incapable of doing anything -- if they would even know what that would be - it is probably even scary to go up against the one shaking the jar -

Spectra  Thats the problem right there people lack courage.

UNEEK  agree - not everyone has warrior courage / skill

Spectra  These days everyone wants to along with the crowd , each is too fearful of being different.

Spectra  To be your self takes confidence

Zig  Welcome to "Profound Thoughts" with your hosts, Spectra and UNEEK..... :Popcorn:

Spectra  Zig your funny

UNEEK  todays world/society has more bullying and shaming and even physical abuse than I have ever witnessed - and its not just in the Ghettos but everywhere - in grammar school - AMONG KIDS!! It is just difficult for me to accept that kids can kill other kids (and even their parents) - it is scary to think about - so much violence - I really don't know what I would do if I lived in these cities and towns that have been so heavy into the protesting and rioting - I would hope I could move -

Spectra  UNEEK I personally would do whatever it takes to leave. Because my children always come first.

UNEEK   I was very disappointed in the debate last night - such behavior among grown men - leaders of our country - no manners - no respect - whether deserved or not - it was a disappointment that those men BOTH of them could not honor the guidelines of not interrupting

Spectra  Ive done evrything with my husband to ensure my children always had the best we could give them.When even we had to go without to make sure they had decent schools and could go outside and play in the country like normal .Believe me to ensure this we went through hardships financial ect.

Spectra  The debates are a reflection of the people in this country ..look in here for examples .Do the people act mature ? No   The word respect no longer is in the English vocabulary. The country is in bad shape.Because of lack of morals. Moral decay!

UNEEK  Spectra right another disappointment - grown men ughhhh acting out like 2 yr olds - little bullies - name calling it does not make either of them right or even credible IMHO

Spectra  Immature men acting like fools.They are not to smart in my opinion.  That pretty much explains their lack of knowledge.  This country is in troubled times.

UNEEK   Pointing out imperfections or any difference in another person to "define" them DOES NOT define them -- IT DEFINES YOU !!!!

Spectra   Face it we all will die.My only asperation is i left my children with the tools to survive this place in a healthy manner.

Zig   If you have no intention of being an ACTIVE member here there is absolutely no reason to request membership....what for???.....there were quite a few people that I deleted a long time ago because they had registered but never posted.....for at least a month....makes no sense....

Zig   I am kind of surprised that Dinar Recaps still posts some of this chat...not often as there hasn't been much news, etc. posted here lately...but they posted some of it from yesterday https://dinarrecaps.com/our-blog/zigs-place-chat-room-discussion-and-news-tuesday-9-29-20

abp   Good day everyone. Been a few days since I've been in. Been slammed with work.

abp   UNEEK Loved your post on the ants. Was right on target. Thank you.

abp   Well what a fiasco lasts nights Debate was. I can't believe I actually sat through the whole thing.

Dave   howdy folks.... UNEEK covered it all very eloquently........

Spectra   WAKE UP CALL-----LIVE

#COVID19 #DigitalPassports #Iraq https://youtu.be/PeC41Zi-xKk

US Airstrikes On Iraq, WEF's 2030 Vision Of YOUR life, MP Urges Mandatory Vaccines/Digital Passports

Spectra   We are bombing Iraq NOWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Professor Dinard   Radical.

Spectra  Tell me how this will help the dinar???

Dave   Spectra WHAT????

Spectra   WAKE UP

Dave   embassy get attacked?

Spectra   call

Spectra   investigate yourself and find out...

Spectra   Dont believe me believe what you research

Professor Dinard   I heard that the 1-800 numbers are painted on the bombs. If you want to exchange you gotta parachute with it and write the number down before it explodes

Spectra   Zig Thanks

Spectra   US Airstrikes On Iraq, WEF's 2030 Vision Of YOUR life, MP Urges Mandatory Vaccines/Digital Passports

Zig   https://youtu.be/PeC41Zi-xKk

Spectra   ty :)

Professor Dinard  What do you guys and gals make of all these middle east peace signings?

Spectra  nothing good

Spectra   it is not for us it's for Israel   Not for our dinar quest

Spectra   We live in a broken system  :Sob:  last word

Dave   Spectra actually listened to that........makes one ponder

Professor Dinard   I dont think dinars are going to RV anymore

Spectra   he is very intelligent guy

Spectra   and brings articles to back up his speeches

Dave   Spectra dont shake the jar?

Dave   ant jar

Spectra   what ever .I will shake whatever i want

Professor Dinard   I'm starting to wonder if the whole economic system we have globally will come to an end soon.

Professor Dinard   Globalists are not looking good these days.

Dave  world not getting smaller?

Sheila   Iraq Budget News summarized - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfYWkYozw1I  -- and - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yg-462Hll4

Professor Dinard   I think it is getting smaller in a sense. Information and connectivity among the people are awakening people more and more. And it's harder for the globe holes to hide how the fiat currency system works

Dave   Professor Dinard Iraq ready to be uber wealthly now?

Dave   Some chatter about WTO

Sheila   What's the chatter on the WTO?

Professor Dinard   Lol nope. Maybe more stable but I think that region is doomed for the foreseeable future. Too many clans and ethnic groups fighting for power

Dave   iraq joining......

Sheila   sweet news

Professor Dinard   Oh snap that's cool

Dave   never said when......though had heard no chatter about thast fer yrs

Professor Dinard   https://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/acc_e/a1_iraq_e.htm

Professor Dinard   That link shows the process of Iraq becoming a member. They still got a lot of stuff to do

Professor Dinard   They got a neat easy chart on there lol

Dave   yep sanctions banking laws

Professor Dinard   Is iraq still under sanctions? I forget

Dave   kuwatii stuff.....3billionish usd

Sheila   Believe Iraq has been taken off the OFAC List. Not sure if they are still on the EU List?

Dave   https://www.international.gc.ca/world-monde/international_relations-relations_internationales/sanctions/iraq.aspx?lang=eng

Professor Dinard   Theres a lot of lists lol

Professor Dinard   https://docs.wto.org/dol2fe/Pages/FE_Search/FE_S_S006.aspx?Query=(%20(@Symbol=%20(wt/acc/irq/*%20or%20wt/acc/spec/irq/*%20%20or%20wt/gc/m/90))%20or%20(@Title=%20(accession%20of%20iraq)))&Language=ENGLISH&Context=FomerScriptedSearch&languageUIChanged=true#

Dave   Australian the EU report the same

Professor Dinard   That link is the documents pertaining to iraq in WTO

Professor Dinard   Most are classified and labeled "agenda"

Professor Dinard   Anyone here have wto clearance? Lol

Dave   Professor Dinard some iraqi mp talked of wto accession about 1=2 weeks ago

Dave   Professor Dinard mentioned some of these details

Professor Dinard   Dave they seem to have some morrocon ambassador dude doing a co signing of their worker party and all the other steps are pretty much application fill outs which is probably not going to take long

Dave   corruption/immunity issues imo

Dave   invest in that?

Dave   CBI knows better...so not yet?

Sheila   Article - 9/30 (LOP) DELETE THREE ZEROS -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvvNeCrTEQs

Butterfly   Remember when they stated that Kuwait had to be paid full from Iraq? Here is some information to help all: The UNCC said in November that Baghdad should finish paying by the end of 2021 compensation for damages to states, companies and individuals caused by Iraq’s invasion and seven-month occupation of Kuwait under former president Saddam Hussein. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-kuwait-un/iraq-resumes-payments-of-gulf-war-reparations-to-kuwait-idUSKBN1HR26Q

butterfly   Several articles here. You will notice that they are wearing masks so that indicates nothing is going to change until the virus is gone, JMO! https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/iraq

Sheila   Just caught the news on wearing masks in various states. I find it amazing (sarcasm) that most of them have said 5 more weeks of wearing masks. LOLOLOL -- Politicians count on the sheeple not being able to count calendar dates. Right up to the Election. Virus real yet Policies all about the Election... What crapola!!!

butterfly   The United States has made preparations to withdraw diplomats from Iraq after warning Baghdad it could shut its embassy, two Iraqi officials and two Western diplomats say, a step Iraqis fear could turn their country into a battle zone. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/9/28/threat-to-evacuate-us-diplomats-from-iraq-raises-fear-of-war

Sheila   Leverage

butterfly   United States Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has urged US airlines to delay tens of thousands of furloughs set to begin on Thursday if a bipartisan deal on a broad coronavirus relief package was in sight.

US airlines have been pleading for a second $25bn bailout that would protect jobs for another six months. The current payroll support package is set to expire at midnight. https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2020/9/30/us-airlines-urged-to-delay-layoffs-if-relief-deal-in-sight

Zig   butterfly: Thanks...you're hired as our new Newshound...Congrats!!...:clap:

butterfly   I am about to run out of time Zig, so don't send the check just yet.

butterfly   The Senate on Wednesday passed a short-term funding bill just hours before the deadline to prevent a government shutdown.

Senators voted 84 to 10 to keep the government funded at current levels through Dec. 11, setting up another funding fight after the November elections and right before the holidays. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/518978-senate-passes-spending-bill-to-avert-shutdown-hours-before-deadline

Spectra    digital coming your way soon

Zig   Some of the people reading may wonder why this room is "Via Referral Only"....It is because there was some trouble here that I let go for too long..I wanted this to be an "open room" but it seems that always leads to problems from my experience...Keeping it this way makes it easy to stop any problems as access can be quickly denied....hopefully our members will refer others and if you recognize anyone here from elsewhere, contact them and ask to be referred....

Zig   If your referral would rather just register on their own that would be fine....as long as you tell me via PM the name that he/she will be registering....I would have to give them access and would post when I do....Thanks....

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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Tuesday 9-29-20

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Dave Mulla Talal: More than 20 officials have been arrested on charges of financial and administrative corruption September 29, 2020 Walter https://www.ikhnews.com/index.php?page=article&id=227788

Dave not sure what that means, heard it before,,,,,but it seems timely with all that anti corruption banter as of late

Zig Dinar Perspective Conference Call Recording from 9/25 LINK

Zig For those of you who may be interested and have gone to https://www.theiqdteam.com/ to get your news in the past: Kimberly and Deb have been dealing with personal issues and have not posted since 6/29....they posted about that....I have been in touch with Kimberly who is Whitelions here...she has been busy with other things......

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Tuesday 9-29-20

Dave    Mulla Talal: More than 20 officials have been arrested on charges of financial and administrative corruption September 29, 2020 Walter   https://www.ikhnews.com/index.php?page=article&id=227788

Dave   not sure what that means, heard it before,,,,,but it seems timely with all that anti corruption banter as of late

Zig    Dinar Perspective Conference Call Recording from 9/25 

https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com/wall/recorded_audio?audioRecordingUrl=https%3A%2F%2Frs0002.freeconferencecall.com%2Fstorage%2FsgetHD%2FD9RMW%2FaoCo0

Zig   For those of you who may be interested and have gone to https://www.theiqdteam.com/ to get your news in the past: Kimberly and Deb have been dealing with personal issues and have not posted since 6/29....they posted about that....I have been in touch with Kimberly who is Whitelions here...she has been busy with other things......

Butterfly    https://tradingeconomics.com/iraq/currency

Butterfly   https://www.reuters.com/article/us-kuwait-emir/kuwait-mourns-emir-sheikh-sabah-veteran-defender-of-arab-unity-idUSKBN26K2FH

Butterfly   They have mention of closing the Embassy in Iraq. That would be a sad day.

butterfly   There is over 1M infected with the covid virus. Nothing is going to happen with anything this year and possibly not even next year. I don't know if you read that all Google employees are working from home and will until July of next year. All the companies I deal with, are working from their homes. I kinda like that because I don't have to wait on the phone anywhere near how I use to when they were working in their offices.

butterfly   Violence mounts against Iraqi doctors as COVID cases spike https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-iraq-healthcare/violence-mounts-against-iraqi-doctors-as-covid-cases-spike-idUSKCN26E1SR

Butterfly   I got word that my Marine grandson in Hawaii shut it down for two weeks to stay in.

butterfly   Just a few days to see if what has been reported/rumored until October 1.

Zig   You are still able to register here though you can't enter unless I activate you...I may take a chance and do that from time to time for a non-referral....you'll know if I do so because I will post and tell you....depends on my mood....lol....it is a risk so I won't do it often but ya never know....lol

Zig   Some of the people reading may wonder why this room is "Via Referral Only"....It is because there was some trouble here that I let go for too long..I wanted this to be an "open room" but it seems that always leads to problems from my experience...Keeping it this way makes it easy to stop any problems as access can be quickly denied....hopefully our members will refer others and if you recognize anyone here from elsewhere, contact them and ask to be referred....

Zig   If your referral would rather just register on their own that would be fine....as long as you tell me via PM the name that he/she will be registering....I would have to give them access and would post when I do....Thanks....

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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Tuesday 9-22-20

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Butterfly Well I am proud of you Zig for cleaning up this mess in here. I thought it was a dinar chat room, not a mud fight room. I have not looked for anything lately, but with the Covid-19 hitting them "strongly", my feeling is nothing is going to happen with the dinar. I did post a few articles yesterday and they confirm, everything is on hold AND they have a lot of problems that still exist over in Iraq. When I have the time to search for more information, I will post them.

butterfly This is a site that members can look at and bookmark it because this is where the action/decisions are made. LINK

Zig butterfly : :Thanks: This room will be different now I can assure you of that...never perfect but much better....hope you now will become a more regular contributor....when you can find the time...take care.....

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Tuesday 9-22-20

Butterfly    Well I am proud of you Zig for cleaning up this mess in here. I thought it was a dinar chat room, not a mud fight room. I have not looked for anything lately, but with the Covid-19 hitting them "strongly", my feeling is nothing is going to happen with the dinar. I did post a few articles yesterday and they confirm, everything is on hold AND they have a lot of problems that still exist over in Iraq. When I have the time to search for more information, I will post them.

butterfly   This is a site that members can look at and bookmark it because this is where the action/decisions are made.    LINK

Zig   butterfly : :Thanks: This room will be different now I can assure you of that...never perfect but much better....hope you now will become a more regular contributor....when you can find the time...take care.....

butterfly   Here is another one: https://www.pmo.iq/pme/indexe.htm

Zig   butterfly : Thanks for those link....good sites....will save the links....

butterfly   Remember this if nothing else. Iraq has only 1500 words in their language, so trying to figure out what they say, is very different from what we think they are saying.

butterfly   Here is another one: https://cbiraq.org/

butterfly   Gurus, etc. are giving you their thoughts/opinions on what is happening, but in reality it is just their thoughts and opinions. We have all been in this "dinar" investment for many years and we have heard the same (cough cough) crap from the gurus. Even some pay to hear the same crap that has been put out there for many many years. Each to their own.

butterfly   As a dinar dealer, who is still in business, told me that NO one will know ahead of time, if it happens, everyone will know at the same time. He also told me years ago to STOP listening to the "so-called gurus". Have a great day and I hope those sites help everyone with their investment.

Zig   butterfly : Yeah but I thought that Abe guy at PTR knew everything!!....lol

butterfly   This is the latest I just heard, so I will c/p what I can in here. You can believe or not believe it. I will still stand with what I have posted before, it will be announced for all to read/hear at the same time.

butterfly   My information on the RV, Nesara/Gesara does not just come from the many who post rumor on the internet.

butterfly   The large contract holders will begin being paid tomorrow through the 29th of this month and then Oct 1 is reportedly the Restored US fiscal year to begin. 10 days of public announcements and education on the new world financial system will be publicized.

butterfly   All will be revealed soon.

Zig   butterfly : Do you believe any of that stuff??

Tebow   National Economic Security and Recovery Act (NESARA) was a set of proposed economic reforms for the United States suggested during the 1990s by Harvey Francis Barnard. Barnard claimed that the proposals, which included replacing the income tax with a national sales tax, abolishing compound interest on secured loans, and returning to a bimetallic currency, would result in 0% inflation and a more stable economy. IT WAS NEVER PASSED. NESARA has since become better known as the subject of a cult-like conspiracy theory

Butterfly   I am trying to get confirmation right now. I still stand with what I said, I will believe it when it happens. Guess we have to wait and see if it is true. Also there are two Nesara's and the Gesara is global.

Zig   Been reading about that stuff for years...

butterfly   me too zig

butterfly   gold standard October 1 back

Tebow   NESARA supporters often tell their readers that the NESARA announcement is going to happen in a matter of days. These claims have been made too many times to enumerate, without ever coming to fruition. According to the documentary Waiting For NESARA, the claim was also made prior to March 2003 that George Bush was planning the war with Iraq only to further delay the NESARA announcement. It was prophesied that spiritual beings and UFOs would intervene with Bush's plans and prevent the war.[15]

A June 2006 complaint to the Washington consumer protection division accused Goodwin of using the NESARA story to defraud a 64-year-old San Francisco woman of at least $10,000. The woman's daughter said the actual amount is much larger, in the hundreds of thousands.

Zig   That is also a long standing rumor about a gold standard and countries going back to asset backed currencies with the Dinar being revalued during the transition....I highly doubt that....PTR Forum lives by that rumor.....

Zig   But that would be great obviously if true....lol

Butterfly   I was told that one of the biggies has had it turn over.

Butterfly   This has nothing to do with the dinar.

Zig   butterfly : It would affect the Dinar if Iraq was in the group of countries going to asset backed currencies...if any of that were true....IF...

Butterfly    I am still on the phone getting educated on all of this.

Butterfly   It would affect all countries.

Butterfly   I will say we all have to wait and see if this is true like we have throughout these looooong years.

LeLe   Zig by the way everyone at PTR doesn't believe everything that Abe says.

Zig   Some of the people reading may wonder why this room is "Via Referral Only"....It is because there was some trouble here that I let go for too long..I wanted this to be an "open room" but it seems that always leads to problems from my experience...Keeping it this way makes it easy to stop any problems as access can be quickly denied....hopefully our members will refer others and if you recognize anyone here from elsewhere, contact them and ask to be referred....

Zig   If your referral would rather just register on their own that would be fine....as long as you tell me via PM the name that he/she will be registering....I would have to give them access and would post when I do....Thanks....

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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Saturday 9-19-20

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Dave 100 US dollars is equivalent to 100 Iraqi dinars .. Is it possible? An economic expert answers.

Dave Baghdad / Obelisk: The economic expert, Salam Sumaisem, said that the government is now obliged to reduce the value of the Iraqi dinar against the dollar in order to obtain greater quantities of Iraqi money against the dollar without printing more, and thus preserving the currency from collapse.

In an interview with the “obelisk”, Sumaisem said that in the pre-2003 era, the currency was printed without cover and in large quantities, and it was reduced without a balance. Today, it can be reduced with a balance, indicating that this reduction increases the amount of exports because it pays people They import from abroad to the demand for local goods, which will lead to a devaluation of the currency and the demand for it becomes more.

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Saturday 9-19-20

Dave   100 US dollars is equivalent to 100 Iraqi dinars .. Is it possible? An economic expert answers.

Dave   Baghdad / Obelisk: The economic expert, Salam Sumaisem, said that the government is now obliged to reduce the value of the Iraqi dinar against the dollar in order to obtain greater quantities of Iraqi money against the dollar without printing more, and thus preserving the currency from collapse.

In an interview with the “obelisk”, Sumaisem said that in the pre-2003 era, the currency was printed without cover and in large quantities, and it was reduced without a balance. Today, it can be reduced with a balance, indicating that this reduction increases the amount of exports because it pays people They import from abroad to the demand for local goods, which will lead to a devaluation of the currency and the demand for it becomes more.

Several countries resorted to writing off zeros of their currency, with the aim of restoring some confidence in the national currency by trying to absorb inflation represented by high prices and the erosion of purchasing value.

Sumaisem indicated that the time is not appropriate to manipulate zeros or the currency because its value will change, and with regard to removing zeros, this requires monetary stability and that was decided during the era of Sinan al-Shabibi administration of the Central Bank.

The economic expert called for improving the status of the dinar so that every 100 dinars would be equal to 100,000 Iraqis, and thus raising the zeros so that every 100 dollars equal to 100 Iraqi dinars, and thus the dinar would be equal to the dollar.

But Sumaisem believes that raising the zeros is not possible at the present time, due to the monetary and economic crisis that Iraq suffers from.

And deleting zeros from the currency is the process of replacing the old currency with a new one whose price is less than the old currency by the number of zeros that will be deleted, for example deleting three zeros from the Iraqi currency means that one dinar from the new currency is equivalent to 1000 dinars from the old currency.   The Iraqi

Dave   odd no mention of a float but rather deleteb3 zeros

Dave   nor any mention of those 47 trillion deenar in circulation

Dave   stuffed in mattresses

Dave   amazing that most iraqis dont have enough dinar to buy any smokes

Zig   Short email from Kaperoni regarding the article posted above: From the article: "one dinar from the new currency is equivalent to 1000 dinars from the old currency".....................Kaperoni: "That's a LOP...They will either float from 1190 or Parliament will get involved and LOP."

Zig   Please don't shoot the messenger....lo

Will   @Zig. Breaking news. Ruth Bader Ginsberg just died at 87. WOW!

Sandyf   @xyz And deleting zeros from the currency is the process of replacing the old currency with a new one whose price is less than the old currency by the number of zeros that will be deleted, for example deleting three zeros from the Iraqi currency means that one dinar from the new currency is equivalent to 1000 dinars from the old currency. - A Redenomination.

sandyf   The term "strengthen the national currency" is regularly used by central banks and usually means they have to try and stop the currency from further weakening.

sandyf   A redenomination means a change in the monetary unit and any such changes must be approved by parliament. Normal timeframe is around 2 years.

Tebow   Article: "The first statement of the new Iraqi central governor: We drew up a plan to strengthen the national currency" The first sentence is very very very important... "....the new CBI governor of the central bank of Iraq announced on today Thursday a plan to strengthen the notation currency." A plan to strengthen the national currency! There's only one way they can do that...it's to raise the value. REDENOMINATION DOES NOT ADD VALUE.

Kaperoni    sandyf Is correct. Strengthening the currency does not mean raise the value. It means reducing the spread in the country closer to the official rate. This has been a must for years with the IMF telling them to keep the market rate within 2%. Currently they are 5%.

Tebow   Don't you just love it when gurus can not comprehend what an article from the Governor of the CBI means. They try to put a spend on it to fit their opinion. A plan to strengthen the national currency not some 2% spread. They did not get rid of the old CBI governor just so they could fix the so called spread. LOL

Kaperoni   If you go read any previous CBI articles whether from the CBI or IMF and they talk about strengthing the dinar, they are referring to the spread not a RV. Figure it out! Your dreaming!

Kaperoni   And if they are ever going to raise it exchange rate against foreign currencies it wont be via a RV. Not how monetary policy works. The CBI is in the business of making money, not giving it away.

LeLe   Never fails. Can't agree to disagree without the name calling. For someone who doesn't hold Dinar and not planning on coming back to the chatroom. Sure can't make up their mind.

Kaperoni   LeLe No reason to hold dinar. When it floats everyone can play it like any other currency.

Spectra   Ralph Waldo Emerson "There is overwhelming evidence that the higher the level of self-esteem, the more likely one will be to treat others with respect, kindness, and generosity."

Spectra   We choose love by taking small steps of love every time there is an opportunity. A smile, a handshake, a word of encouragement, a phone call, a card, an embrace, a kind greeting, a gesture of support, a moment of attention, a helping hand, a present, a financial contribution, a visit—all these are little steps toward love.

Spectra   A generous person will prosper; whoever refreshes others will be refreshed… Good will come to those who are generous and lend freely, who… Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart… You will be enriched in every way so that you can be… Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed…

Spectra   If we all want a better world let's just start with our selves..

xyz   The Kurdistan Regional Government is "optimistic" to reach a final agreement with Baghdad

Shafaq News / On Friday, the Prime Minister of Kurdistan Region, Masrour Barzani expressed his optimism that a final agreement would be reached to resolve the differences and issues between Erbil and Baghdad.

Barzani said in a tweet on social networking platforms "Twitter" that "despite the many obstacles, we have a strong negotiating team that represents all parties to the regional government, which is united in its goal."

He added that he was "optimistic about reaching a final agreement with the federal government" in Baghdad.

The provincial government delegation had previously made several visits to the capital, Baghdad, after the previous federal government headed by Adel Abdul Mahdi stopped financing the salaries of employees and workers in the public sector in Kurdistan .

The differences and outstanding issues between Erbil and Baghdad are based on the region's share of the financial budgets, the entitlements of the Peshmerga forces, the export of oil, and the disputed areas covered by Article 140 of the permanent Iraqi constitution.

On several occasions and times, the Kurdistan Regional Government has expressed its willingness to deliver 250 thousand barrels of crude oil per day in exchange for the Iraqi government funding of employees' salaries by 450 billion Iraqi dinars per month.   LINK

Tebow   What wars? GO RV! I see some some a clearly unable to comprehend and understand what the Governor of the CBI has said.

Xyz   Source: The 2020 budget will arrive in Parliament tomorrow, Sunday

A parliamentary source said, on Saturday, that the 2020 budget will arrive in Parliament tomorrow, Sunday.

The source said in an interview with Alsumaria News, "The representative of the government in Parliament, Torhan Al-Mufti, informed the General Secretariat of Parliament that the 2020 budget will arrive tomorrow, Sunday, to the House of Representatives." LINK

Spectra   "Watch Within the Next 48 hrs" - People Need To Know  https://youtu.be/MwCfHIe5leo

Dave   Spectra TRUE Freedom.........

Spectra   Dave Well people better wakeup

Dave  unfortunately now a control system.......cant smoke in public places seat belts, speeding tickets, etc etc.........

Spectra   Dave yep a real slave society alright

Dave   rules not entirely a bad idea

Spectra   They want population control read the GEORGIA GUIDE STONES

Dave   if we could all live by the Golden Rule

Spectra   Dave The Dinar is not going anywhere right now ...

Dave   agrrreeeeeeee

Spectra   its not up in value thats for sure

Dave  never knew it was other than on ebay

Spectra   Thats why i would rather not talk about the * thing

Dave  New CBI Govniner

Spectra   yeh' a new CBI guy just another IMF pUPPET

Dave  According to whom?

Spectra  me

Dave   Alaq was by Proxy

Spectra   No one gets that job unless they get on their knees

Spectra   I know Alaq was proxy been saying it for years

Dave   PM promices to go after the corrupt

Spectra  who cares   not me lol

Dave  they may tho

Spectra  sick of Iraq talk   They all washed up

Dave  have hope.......

Spectra   They LOOSE

Spectra  NO i do not believe in hope   I believe in action and what i see    all the talk in the world means nothing

Spectra  I see the world in realtime   bull **** Tallks    NO La la land for me

Dave what be happening in Canada that i really need to reconcile?

Spectra Dave ?

Dave We our generally happy.....

Spectra  Ok good for you lol   i guess i could be happy too if i was wearing blindfolds over my eyes

Dave  what should i be seeing?

Spectra  Living in a bubble wont work for me

Spectra  Dave if you cant see it by now you may never see it.  just put your mask on be a good boy   do as your told

Dave  rant about masks?

Dave  huge fines fer not wearing one here now

Spectra  The mask / IS SYMBOLIC . i am not going to tell you why if you think its natural and you like it then cover your face......

Spectra  Dave well it sounds like you live in a SCIFI movie world.

Dave  yeah ...no virus floating around

Spectra   Dave no one i know has had a virus  NO NONE

Dave  I do.....!

Spectra  i have a strong DNA

Dave that helps yes

Spectra  Nver seen a doctor since i gave birth 30 years ago

Dave  I am a Dr.....

Spectra  oh yeh  i remember

Spectra  Good Dna is important my mother is 82 she has never been to a doctor ever  she is strong and healthy

Dave   healthy lifestyle helps

Spectra   it helps  but i smoke she smokes    my mom smokes at 82    no cancer in my family

Dave   helps yes

Spectra   yes   so i dont worry .I am careful and i always wash my hands .After i leave a store.Plus a lot of people dont think about this but should clean your nose     I nevr stood close to people any where i go even before this virus

Spectra   BUT YOUR HAIR WILL CATCH ALL THE GERMS IN THE AIR SO THIS MASK CRAP IS A JOKE

xyz   An official and a deputy in Kurdistan affirm: Erbil will hand over any accused against whom an arrest warrant has been issued to Baghdad

09/19/2020 14:27  Baghdad today – Kurdistan   With the launch of security operations to pursue those accused of corruption, some accused parties are trying to flee and seek refuge in the territories of the Kurdistan region, in order not to arrest them. However, the regions of the region confirmed that the region was not allowed to be a haven for what it described as "corrupt."

The Director General of Asayish Erbil, Major General Tariq Nouri, confirmed that the Asayish is an executive body, and it implements any judicial order issued to it against the accused.

Nuri said in an interview with (Baghdad Today), "The Asayish is a body affiliated with the Kurdistan Regional Security Council, and any warrant against suspects residing in the region who has arrest warrants that reaches us by the regional security council, and we are committed to implementing them."

He added, "Any suspect against whom an arrest warrant is issued, whether it is criminal or corruption cases, we are carrying out our mission after the arrival of the warrant to the regional security council."

Major General Nuri described "the security cooperation between Baghdad and Erbil is good, which recently resulted in the arrest of many wanted persons with terrorist and criminal cases, and their extradition to the judicial authorities in the Iraqi provinces."

For his part, a member of the Kurdistan Democratic Party, Repin Salam, affirmed that the Kurdistan region is ready to cooperate with the federal government in handing over the corrupt persons who are based in the region's cities.

Salam said in an interview with (Baghdad Today), "There is good security cooperation between Baghdad and Erbil, and the region is not a safe haven for the corrupt and those who steal the people's livelihood, and anyone who takes the region as a headquarters and an arrest warrant is issued

xyz   https://baghdadtoday.news/news/131340/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%A4%D9%88%D9%84-%D9%88%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%A8-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D9%83%D8%B1%D8%AF%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%86-%D9%8A

Zig   I started this chat room just to have a little fun...never tried anything like it before...but after experimenting with some things, and dealing with some problems, I found that I just don't like doing it that much...It isn't just one or two things...Hey it only cost me $20 to find that out...LOL...Had fun playing around in my back office...

There really was not that much activity here either other than a small group...so what I will do is close it for now...but if anything SIGNIFICANT should happen with the Dinar I will open it again...I highly doubt anything will happen with the Dinar any time soon...I wish everyone well...You won't be seeing me any longer around the Dinar Community as I am tired of it...I will keep my Dinar though....Take care and stay safe!!..

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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Friday 9-18-20

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Zig Dinar Perspective Round table Conference Call recording....9/17 LINK

Xyz The first move of the new Iraqi central bank governor

The Governor of the Central Bank of Iraq, Mustafa Ghaleb Al-Kitab, announced, on Thursday, the development of a studied banking plan to develop the bank’s work and strengthen the national currency.

The bank said in a statement, "Nass" received a copy of it, (September 17, 2020), that "the Governor of the Central Bank of Iraq, Mustafa Ghaleb Al-Kitab, met with the President of the Supreme Judicial Council, Judge Dr. Faiq Zaidan."

"During the meeting, the governor of the Central Bank confirmed that a deliberate banking plan had been developed that would develop the work of the central bank, strengthen the national currency and deal with negatives, in cooperation with the courts specialized in joint work with the central bank," Al-Baya added.

Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Friday 9-18-20

Zig  Dinar Perspective Round table Conference Call recording....9/17 LINK

Xyz   The first move of the new Iraqi central bank governor

The Governor of the Central Bank of Iraq, Mustafa Ghaleb Al-Kitab, announced, on Thursday, the development of a studied banking plan to develop the bank’s work and strengthen the national currency.

The bank said in a statement, "Nass" received a copy of it, (September 17, 2020), that "the Governor of the Central Bank of Iraq, Mustafa Ghaleb Al-Kitab, met with the President of the Supreme Judicial Council, Judge Dr. Faiq Zaidan."

"During the meeting, the governor of the Central Bank confirmed that a deliberate banking plan had been developed that would develop the work of the central bank, strengthen the national currency and deal with negatives, in cooperation with the courts specialized in joint work with the central bank," Al-Baya added.

During the meeting, the President of the Supreme Judicial Council stressed, according to the statement, that "the selection of independent personalities from among the employees of state institutions to manage these institutions gives an indication of the government's seriousness in pursuing the professional institutional approach in building the state as well as emphasizing the importance of preserving the independence of the Central Bank in accordance with the constitution and the Central Bank of Iraq law."

Zidan stressed "the necessity of adhering to banking laws, the anti-money laundering and terrorist financing law, and the instructions issued pursuant to them, to build a solid banking sector capable of facing financial and economic challenges and providing real opportunities for development."

On Monday, Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi made changes to a number of important positions, which included 16 personalities in senior positions. https://www.nasnews.com/view.php?cat=40530

xyz   The new central bank governor: We have put in place a deliberate plan to develop work and strengthen the dinar

The new Central Bank Governor, Mustafa Al-Kuttab, revealed, on Thursday, that a "deliberate banking plan" has been developed to develop the bank’s work, strengthen the national currency and address negatives, while the President of the Supreme Judicial Council, Judge Faik Zaidan, stressed the need to adhere to banking laws and the anti-money laundering and terrorist financing law.

The media office of the Central Bank said in a statement that Alsumaria News received a copy of, that "the Governor of the Central Bank of Iraq, Mustafa Ghaleb Al-Kitab, met with the President of the Supreme Judicial Council, Judge Faik Zaidan."

The statement quoted the book as saying that "a deliberate banking plan has been developed that will develop the central bank's work, strengthen the national currency and address negatives in cooperation with the courts specialized in joint work with the central bank."

For his part, Zaidan said, "The selection of independent personalities from among the affiliates of state institutions to manage these institutions gives an indication of the government's seriousness in pursuing the professional institutional approach in building the state, as well as emphasizing the importance of preserving the independence of the Central Bank in accordance with the constitution and the Iraqi Central Bank Law." LINK

Xyz   Parliament will proceed to include borrowing in the General Budget Law 2020

Baghdad / The Parliamentary Finance Committee disclosed that the House of Representatives has proceeded to include borrowing in the Federal Budget Law 2020, which was recently approved by the Council of Ministers.

The committee's rapporteur, Ahmad al-Saffar, stated in a statement to the Iraqi National News Agency -, that "the House of Representatives decided to stop external borrowing in the 2019 budget, but the Finance Committee was forced to pass a law on domestic and external borrowing for the purpose of paying salaries, and we stipulated not to agree again to borrowing."

He added that "there are trends with the inclusion of borrowing in the general budget law 2020, within the limits of the necessary expenditures related to the payment of salaries, ration card items and medical drugs only," indicating that "the only issue that may delay discussions to approve the general budget law is the rate of internal and external loans that the government wants."

He explained that "the authority of the House of Representatives, according to the constitution, is to reduce the total amount of the budget or the transfer between the chapters, except for the increase that should be in coordination with the government and its approval."

During its extraordinary session held last Monday, the Council of Ministers voted on the Federal Budget Law of the Republic of Iraq for the fiscal year / 2020, and referred it to the House of Representatives based on the provisions of Articles (61 / Clause First and 80 / Clause Second) of the Constitution. https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=857003

Xyz   Governor of the Central Bank of Iraq meets with the President of the Supreme Judicial Council https://cbi.iq/news/view/1555

His Excellency the Governor of the Central Bank of Iraq, Mr. Mustafa Ghaleb Al-Kitab, met with the President of the Supreme Judicial Council, Judge Dr. Faiq Zidan.

During the meeting, His Excellency the Governor of the Central Bank affirmed that a thoughtful banking plan had been developed that would develop the work of the Central Bank, strengthen the national currency and address negatives in cooperation with Courts concerned with joint work with the Central Bank.

In turn, the President of the Supreme Judicial Council stressed during the meeting that choosing independent personalities from among the employees of state institutions to manage these institutions gives an indication of the government's seriousness in

Following the professional institutional approach in building the state as well as emphasizing the importance of preserving the independence of the Central Bank in accordance with the constitution and the Central Bank of Iraq law, stressing the need to adhere to banking laws, the Anti-Money Laundering and Terrorism Financing Law and the instructions issued accordingly to build a solid banking sector capable of facing challenges

Financial, economic, and real opportunities for development.

xyz   Parliamentary Finance pledges the country's economic reform with a paper to be presented within weeks

Shafaq News / The Parliamentary Finance Committee pledged today, Thursday, to reform the financial system and address the problems of unequal salaries for state employees and retirees, on the implementation of the economic reform paper to be presented by it in the coming weeks.

Committee member Jamal Ahmed Cougar said to Shafaq News, "The contents of the economic reform paper agreed upon and decided by Parliament and the Ministry of Finance include amending the salary scale, ending the differences and discrepancies between the salaries of state employees, organizing retired payrolls and the Federal Service Law," noting that "Parliament and the Committee Finance has not yet seen the economic reform paper due to be presented on the fifteenth of next month.

Cougar pledged "the application of the reform paper to the extent of the government's seriousness in implementing it and within the 2021 budget or the 2022 budget at the farthest borders," considering that "the reform paper is an end to the financial problems in the country and the problems of employees' salaries that take over a large part of the federal budget . "

He added, "Failure to implement the reform paper is a threat to the country's financial system and exacerbate new problems in the coming years ." LINK

Xyz   Central Bank of Iraq (CBI). Mustafa Ghaleb has been named the CBI’s new governor after long service as its head of legal affairs. A nonpartisan figure with a history of resisting political pressure, he will now take the lead on implementing bank reforms and protecting the dollar auction process against interference from Iran, militias, and other corrupt actors. https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/kadhimis-rolling-reshuffle-part-2-protecting-iraqs-economic-institutions-an

Xyz   100 US dollars is equivalent to 100 Iraqi dinars .. Is it possible? An economic expert answers.

Baghdad / Obelisk: The economic expert, Salam Sumaisem, said that the government is now obliged to reduce the value of the Iraqi dinar against the dollar in order to obtain greater quantities of Iraqi money against the dollar without printing more, and thus preserving the currency from collapse.

In an interview with the "obelisk", Sumaisem said that the printing of the currency in the pre-2003 era was done without cover and in large quantities, and it was reduced without a balance. Today, it can be reduced with a balance, indicating that this reduction increases the amount of exports because it pays people who They import from abroad to the demand for domestic goods, which will lead to a devaluation of the currency and the demand for it becomes more.

Several countries resorted to writing off zeros of their currency, with the aim of restoring some confidence in the national currency by trying to absorb inflation represented by high prices and the erosion of purchasing value.

Sumaisem indicated that the time is not appropriate to manipulate zeros or the currency because its value will change, and with regard to removing zeros, this requires monetary stability and that was decided during the era of Sinan al-Shabibi administration of the Central Bank.

The economic expert called for improving the status of the dinar so that every 100 dinars would be equal to 100,000 Iraqis, and thus raising the zeros so that every 100 dollars equal to 100 Iraqi dinars, and thus the dinar would be equal to the dollar.

But Sumaisem believes that raising the zeros is not possible at the present time, due to the monetary and economic crisis that Iraq suffers from.

And deleting zeros from the currency is the process of replacing the old currency with a new one whose price is less than the old currency by the number of zeros that will be deleted, for example d

xyz   And deleting zeros from the currency is the process of replacing the old currency with a new one whose price is less than the old currency by the number of zeros that will be deleted, for example deleting three zeros from the Iraqi currency means that one dinar from the new currency is equivalent to 1000 dinars from the old currency.

The Iraqi Finance Minister suggested reducing the price of the Iraqi dinar as a measure to confront the financial crisis, as Sumaisem believes that this proposal will be the closest scenario .. and will prevent compromising the storage in the central bank. LINK

xyz   Is that float?

Zig   No, would be great!!....  :Yes:

Xyz   Iraqi political parties on Wedneaday rejected the new changes brought by Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kadhimi to senior positions in the security, economic, administrative and financial government bodies.

In separate statements, the Sairoon Alliance, the Al-Fatah coalition and State of Law Coalition rejected Al-Kadhimi’s government reshuffle saying they were surprised by the new appointments.

The Sairoon Alliance, supported by Shia cleric Muqtada Al-Sadr, said in a statement that the new appointments are dominated by party and political frameworks which “represents a setback in the reform project”.

Hadi Al-Ameri, the head of Al-Fatah coalition, which includes most of the Popular Mobilisation Forces, also rejected Al-Kadhimi’s changes, saying they represent “a return to the quota system”.

The State of Law Coalition said the new changes radicalise the quota system, adding that it had warned of such changes since the inception of the current government.

Al-Kadhimi announced on Monday changes to 15 high-ranking positions, including the governor of the central bank, the head of the Shia endowment office and the head of the Public Integrity Commission. https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/Story/49771/Iraqi-parties-reject-PM-Kadhhimi-s-government-reshuffle

Xyz   Trump campaign plots winning maps without Florida (but insists they won’t be needed) https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article245760810.html

Xyz   Republican Senator Ron Johnson, who was due to join President Donald Trump in Wisconsin on Thursday, has instead entered quarantine after being exposed to someone who tested positive for the coronavirus, his office said in a statement. https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-senator-johnson-quarantined-covid-202506485.html

Zig   To delete a post you have made:...Go to the far right within the post and you will see 3 dots stacked vertically...click on them...you will see a trash can...click on that to delete your post...To PM (Private Message): make sure both of you are logged in first and wish to PM...click on those aforementioned dots within any post the person with whom you wish to PM has made....you will see an envelope....click on it to send a PM....you will see a lock and check marks within a post that you have successfully PMd at the far right.....then the person replying does the same clicking on the envelope in one of your posts,etc...

Referrals: If anyone has someone to refer just make a post and address me telling me you wish to do so...and if I am not here I will find you later...then you will "PM" this to me: the username desired by your referral and the password desired....please tell the person you are referring to make it a short password....maybe a 5 digit number...Any questions about anything in this post, please ask in chat....

Zig   I may try something new soon but it will be short lived the VERY FIRST TIME that it leads to trouble...so anyone could sabotage it easily...but I like experimenting...and remember that if someone comes in here to cause trouble, name-call, insult me, etc., he/she will be quickly denied access...and I am good at recognizing people, their posting style, etc....lol....

I have an email that I created when I opened this chat...I may make it available soon to anyone wishing to become an ACTIVE member here...don't bother if you don't intend to post much....he/she would send me the name and password they desire...I would register them and then they could post...but I have a feeling that it would lead to trouble....lol...stay tuned....

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