Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Thursday 8-27-20

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8/07/20 Dinar Perspective Roundtable Pre-Recorded Call With Pat & Bobby  1 hr 21 mins  Replay LINK 

8/26/20 Dinar Perspective Roundtable Pre-Recorded Call  1 hr 19 mins  Replay LINK 

xyz  ‘Corruption remains endemic’ in Iraq: UN rep

ERBIL, Kurdistan Region — The perpetuation of corruption in Iraq amongst a deepening economic crisis was emphasized by the Special Representative of the United Nations Secretary-General (SRSG) for Iraq at a Wednesday Security Council briefing.  “Corruption remains endemic, and its economic cost untold as it continues to steal desperately needed resources from the everyday Iraqi, eroding investor confidence,” said Jeanine Hennis-Plasschaert in her virtual address to the council.

The top UN representative to Iraq reports that poverty is trending upwards by over 10%, and that more than three million Iraqis cannot meet their food needs.

“Economic trouble is never far from humanitarian concerns. Iraq is expected to experience a 9.7% decline in GDP. Oil revenues, severely affected by a steep crash in oil prices, have nearly halved,” said Hennis-Plasschaert, demanding that the Iraqi political class allow for reforms to take hold.

The Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) was not spared from criticism in the SRSG’s address.

“In my briefing in May, I emphasized that, in the Kurdistan Region, as elsewhere in Iraq, transparency, fighting corruption, freedom of expression and fundamental reforms are of critical importance. I must repeat that message today,” she added.

Large protests have erupted in the Kurdistan Region in recent weeks, with demonstrators, predominantly in Sulaimani province, demanding their months-delayed civil sector pay from the government and denouncing a recently introduced wave of pay cuts to cope with the economic crisis gripping the Kurdistan Region and Iraq. https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/260820204

8/07/20 Dinar Perspective Roundtable Pre-Recorded Call With Pat & Bobby  1 hr 21 mins https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com/wall/recorded_audio?audioRecordingUrl=https%3A%2F%2Frs0002.freeconferencecall.com%2Fstorage%2FsgetHD%2FD9RMW%2FaHyxz  

8/26/20 Dinar Perspective Roundtable Pre-Recorded Call   1 hr 19 mins  https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com/wall/recorded_audio?audioRecordingUrl=https%3A%2F%2Frs0002.freeconferencecall.com%2Fstorage%2FsgetHD%2FD9RMW%2FaHZzI

  Xyz  The Central Bank warns a UAE bank

On Wednesday, the Central Bank of Iraq warned the "Abu Dhabi Islamic Bank" that contracts must be concluded with companies licensed by the bank, indicating that a commission will be imposed in the event of non-compliance.

The Central Bank said in a statement that "based on the decision of the board of directors and taken in its session numbered the number five hundred and ninety-six after one thousand, it was decided to approve the granting of Abu Dhabi Islamic Bank a final and final deadline until December 31 of 2020 to contract with companies licensed by this bank." .

He added, "Otherwise, a commission will be imposed on every movement that passes through the national exchange of 500 dinars, to be borne by your bank and not the customer."

The Central Bank of Iraq was established as an independent bank under its law issued on the sixth of March of the year 2004, as an independent body, and is responsible for maintaining price stability and implementing monetary policy, and supervises 10 commercial banks, 26 private banks, 16 Islamic banks, in addition to 19 foreign banks. About 6 financial institutions and 31 money transfer companies http://www.sotaliraq.com/2020/08/26/البنك-المركزي-ينذر-مصرفاً-إماراتياً/

Xyz  Deputy Speaker of the Iraqi Parliament: We hope to reach a strategic agreement between Erbil and Baghdad

Deputy Speaker of the Iraqi Parliament, Dr. Bashir Haddad, expressed his hope for a long-term strategic agreement between the Kurdistan Regional Government and the federal government, referring to a recent visit by a delegation from Erbil to Baghdad to complete the talks in this regard.

Dr. Bashir Haddad said: "A delegation from the Kurdistan Region will soon go to Baghdad, for dialogue on oil issues, the budget, border crossings and Article 140 of the constitution."

He added, "It is not clear at present whether the head of the Kurdistan Regional Government will personally go to Baghdad or not, but it is certain that the Kurdistan Regional Government’s delegation will head to Baghdad."

Bashir Haddad: Iraq is looking for support from NATO to stabilize the foundations of stability

The Deputy Speaker of the Iraqi Parliament explained, “What is important for us is that the two parties reach a long-term strategic agreement, on the condition that the Iraqi government adheres to the agreement and deals with it in accordance with the constitution and sends financial dues to the Kurdistan Region and applies the terms of the agreement as it is, and the Kurdistan Region must also abide by the agreement.” He applies it as it is, only then can a long-term strategic agreement be signed.

Dr. Bashir Haddad stated, "It is not logical that there is a new agreement every year, or for the region to enter into new negotiations with Baghdad whenever the Iraqi government changes," stressing that "this situation cannot continue, and we hope that there will be a long agreement." Duration within the framework of the constitution ». http://www.sotaliraq.com/2020/08/26/نائب-رئيس-البرلمان-العراقي-نأمل-في-الت/

xyz  Parliamentary Finance asks the government about the economic reform program

The Parliamentary Legal Committee telegramed to the government to ask it about the reason for the delay in sending the economic reform program despite the end of the prescribed period.

The head of the committee, Deputy Haitham al-Jubouri, wrote to the government in a document - (Al-Mada) obtained a copy of it: We refer you to the law of domestic and foreign borrowing to finance the fiscal deficit for the year 2020 No. (5) of 2020 that Article Seven obligated the introduction of the economic reform program within 60 days, and because the date The vote was on June 24, the legal period has passed, and this is a clear violation of the law.

The House of Representatives voted in its session held in the last quarter of last June, on the domestic and foreign borrowing law.

Article 1 / (a) of the law stipulates: A percentage of not less than 15% of the loans shall be allocated to be spent on investment projects and the development of regions, and priority is given to the governorates with less funding.

B: The ceiling of external borrowing is (5) billion dollars, and (15) trillion dinars of domestic borrowing, by authorizing the Minister of Finance to issue treasury transfers and bonds.

Article 7 of the law stipulates that: The Council of Ministers shall present a program for economic reform to the House of Representatives within a period not exceeding 60 days from the date of approval of this law.

While Article Eight stipulates that: This law will be in effect until the end of the fiscal year 2020 or until the approval of the Federal Budget Law, whichever is earlier. http://www.sotaliraq.com/2020/08/26/المالية-النيابية-تسأل-الحكومة-عن-برنا/

xyz  The Supreme Judicial Council participates in a meeting to discuss the evaluation of the legislative and institutional framework for the anti-corruption system http://www.sotaliraq.com/2020/08/25/مجلس-القضاء-الاعلى-يشارك-باجتماع-لمنا/

Zig  If a link takes you to the Arabic version and there is no "English" link on that page, simply copy the URL and google it....usually you will see a "translate" this page link in the first listing......

Xyz  8-26-2020 Intel Guru RayRen98 [Did Ray say what his text was about?] THE TEXT WAS FROM A BANK SOURCE - INDICATING "THIS WEEK" AS THEIR EXPECTED LAST WEEK WAITING TO EXCHANGE. TIME WILL TELL!!

Xyz  Fox News host Tucker Carlson says teen who shot protesters was ‘maintaining order’ https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-host-tucker-carlson-125000164.html

sheila  One man's opinion: (8/27) Iraq News https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrlzAUl6S1w

Zig  No offense intended to the so-called "Gurus" that I have recently invited to come here via their Youtube channels and emailing....I am a joker.....Love all of you peeps!   :hug: lol

Zig   This Chat can have a maximum of 1,000 registered members.....FYI....but if people register and never post I will eventually delete those....always can register again......

123789   @Zig...I think ppl want to have discussions about the RV and the details we hear daily. Once ppl see the three word bickering posts btwn 3ppl its a turn off. This new room needs to have thoughtful adult discussions about what we are all hoping for...the RV and our exchange.

123789   We read daily, through different channels, that the RV and Gesara are right around the corner...it will happen Tuesday..yada yada yada. Many folks are on the brink of eviction and other horrible life disruptions, so we all want to have this exchange . Lets all talk about this...what is real? What is utter BS?

123789   I for one want to either **** or get off the pot, this incessent kicking of the can is tiresome and makes disbelievers out of honest ppl who simply want security and a bit of piece of mind.

Doug_W  when / IF it happens we will all know almost instantly   that is my 2 cents

Zig   123789 : Discuss anything here that you wish....but always expect to get opposing views....hopefully respectful.....lol

123789   @Doug....We should discuss what we read every day. If it's all BS, which I kinda agree, than why are we all here. I am here bc I want to believe its true, but every day it's lost hope and I certainly am not one to believe any of the other "info" that surrounds this RV... I don't buy into the deep state cabal, rescued kids on cruise ships, celebrity arrests. So what info on these sites is real and what info is horsecrap?

123789   Heres an honest question for everyone: If the gurus like Judy and her Fleming Military guy, Bruce, MarkZ are putting out info/intel every day...do you think they believe it? Do you think they know the dates will pass with no new intel? Are they knowingly sending out bad intel? If so, what is their motivation? What do they get out of leading on eager honest folks? How can they still believe after years of false info?

123789    I know Bruce sells pills and presentations..so I see his angle...

123789   I'd be ashamed if I were wrong everyday and thousands of ppl were affected by my actions/words.

Zig  123789 : Yes, many of those people are making money from this....one way or another....so I would watch for that....some of it is obvious but some is not to most people.....

Zig   Some have monetized Youtube channels, etc....

123789  And why do so many folks just believe without questioning anything. They simply Trust the Plan...after years and years. At some point you stop believing the kid fell down the well.

123789  Desperation leads to blind faith

123789  Sorry for the ranting guys, best of luck to all. Hope someone posts here if/when the RV happens.

Doug_W  they will

Zig   123789 : Rant all you want here...and don't be a stranger....do what you want in here....not kidding about that....NO MODS....and mostly I am not here....this is rare for me today....

Justthefact!  Hows the RV coming? lol   :$$$: :$$$: :$$$:

Dave  Justthefact! Thought Iraq parliament still aint in session......fer months and months.....Still no art 140 hcl etc.......

Dave  private banking laws for foreign investors been passed yet.....?

Dave  Justthefact! you mention Iraq still ch7.......can they go global with their currency while under Ch7?

Zig   In case anyone does not know: "Justthefact" is KAPERONI

Justthefact!  Dave UN chapter 7 has nothing to do with IMF Article VIII which is needed for more acceptance internationally.

Dave  odd that sanctioned countries cant trade currency internationally

Dave  what would be the pupose of sanctions then?

Justthefact!  Iraq needs to meet the conditions of IMF Article VIII and then ask them to accept them into it so as the IMF says..." sends a positive message and a favorable business climate."

Justthefact!  Dave UN sanctions has nothing to do with monetary policy

Dave  so sanctioned countries can trade internationally.....?

Justthefact!  The dinar is already internationally recognized

Dave  go trade it on the Forex........NOT!

Dave  Banks wont touch it here

Justthefact!  Just not accepted or convertible by most financial institutions because the Iraqi banking system is not in Article VIII

Justthefact!  Dave That is because the financial system in Iraq, not the dinar

Justthefact!  There is no trust in Iraq as long as they sit in Article XIV

Dave  but INTERNATIONALLY recognized.....just not traded OK.....

Xyz   9 arrested after 'suspicious vehicles with out-of-state plates' stopped on 4th night of protests in Kenosha https://www.fox6now.com/news/9-arrested-after-suspicious-vehicles-with-out-of-state-plates-stopped-on-4th-night-of-protests-in-kenosha

Xyz  8-27-2020 Newshound/Intel Guru Mnt Goat I am told to expect details on the rollout of the lower denominations sometime in October with the rollout in late November thru December. If this does not happen it will be delayed further. This news tells me that they plan to complete the project to delete the zeros late this year, but will not move to the global markets on FOREX with the currency until very early next year 2021. They are still currently under OFAC sanctions. My contact sees things maybe changing as a result of Al-Kazemi’s visit to the US this week.

Sheila  @TWW been busy?

xyz  Spectra Tell me in my face. What were trying to prove in the morning?

TWW  sheila oh yes...did u read my email I sent u

Sheila  @TWW been away from laptop. just read email. thank you.

TWW  did it sound familiar

TWW  They all have their own Time table but r now talking abt it thanx to the UAE

Sheila  come one, come all

TWW  yeppers

Sheila  middle east time table is like watching grass grow.

TWW  Im not a complete fraud as say here, when Im in the know, Im in the know just cant share some thingz

Sheila  face value until proven otherwise is how I operate

Sheila  Mind is like parachute. Neither one helps you in any way unless it's open.

TWW  :Smile:

Sheila  just want more financial comfort than what I have at this moment.

TWW  the big confort is our way

TWW  *coming

Sheila  hope so. help myself. help family, friends with medical situations. help strangers anonymously.

TWW  but all needs some help. only many peeps want to known due to pride

Sheila  I need no accolades when helping people. Doing that now. Will continue to help, just on larger scale.

TWW  it i wonder how many dinarians will help the needy when thizbreak thru. Or will they b like many lotto owiners will b broke in the matter of yrs

Sheila  I have gained so much peace in my life the last 20 years or so. Many will suffer lottery syndrome. Hungry soul. Lack contentment. Money will go almost as fast as it came.

TWW  selfish people agree

Sheila  spend slow, spend smart

TWW  invest smart, beware

Sheila  spend my money's money before touching principle

Sheila  (8/27) EXCELLENT NEWS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYrmX5fK4hA

Justthefact!  sheila You need to educate yourself there is no RV. No possible cannot happen not how monetary policy works. Might as well believe Santa is coming. Just guru nonsense.

Sheila  Justthefact! You need to find someone else to pick on cause I am not listening to you. You lack background in socio-economic history pertaining to currency values throughout war-time cycles. Get some learning from this perspective. And quit stamping your feet like a child throwing a temper tantrum. It's quite boring. lolol lolol

Justthefact!  sheila socio-economic history? lol How about 42 trillion? That is basic math! There cannot ever be a significant RV of the dinar.

John Frank has stated   Kuwait Devalued & ReInstated both in One Night.

Justthefact!   John Frank has stated   I disagree that they did that..but even if I am wrong, Kuwait never had 42 trillion in circulation.

sheila  Justthefact! I will be quietly laughing on my way to the bank. Have a great life!!!

Sheila  Justthefact! I do not accept your words. They stay with you. Your words are a reflection of your true self. Again, have a great life!

John Frank has stated   As 5 to 8 Trillion Dinar in the country rest is Unrecognized outside of the country ignorant moron

Justthefact!  All you need to do is google Kuwait and the central bank to learn they never had that much currency.

John Frank has stated  Rec only has 5 to 8,000,000,000,000 Dinar inside the country and the rest is outside of the country to be used and applied for basil three compliant you dumb ass

John Frank has stated   Iraq only has 5 to 8 TrillionDinar within their country and the rest is outside the country to be used for basil three complaints you dumb ass

Justthefact!  sheila It is easy to try and turn it on me. But I am just the messenger. The facts don't lie. If you read the documents you would know the truth and you would not blame me.

Justthefact!  John Frank has stated Show me proof they RV in Kuwait. Prove the money supply

Justthefact!  The truth hurts. You have been scamed

Justthefact!  Iraq has over 42 trillion in Iraq. That does not include what is outside the country. That is well documented

John Frank has stated   The money supply has nothing to do with the rate

Justthefact!  Its called chunky money.

John Frank has stated   The money supply just that it’s the amount of money physically in circulation has nothing to do with the right

TWW  Justthefact! U R wrong abt the RI Kuwait in the early spring of 1991...Was 05 cents & overnight went to #.48usd, I know that for a fact

TWW  * 3>48

John Frank has stated  Iraq only has 5 to 8 TrillionDinar within their country and the rest is outside the country to be used for basil three complaints

TWW  *3.48

TWW  sheila u know what Im talking abt from last week

Sheila  @TWW Yes

TWW  sheila The Open Society pays him very little to spread misinformation for him to go to chat rooms and to spread :Crap:

TWW   50usd weekly

Sheila  TWW petty cash yet enough to buy 1 million vietnamese dong. he is a closet foreign currency speculator!

TWW  sheila I think I bought for 75usd for a Million dong bk a few yrs ago

sheila  TWW That's why he does the chat trolling. To support his currency purchases.

sheila  TWW Never heard of The Open Society.

TWW  sheila Open Society is a foundation Soros owns & funds with

sheila  well, now we all know the RV is real

TWW    Thatz were he funds Antifa, Caravans at our boarder, USA riots & the DEMONRATS

WW  sheila how do u kno the RV is real now

sheila  Don't know about those connections. Just know if someone as powerful as Soros is trying to dissuade the masses from having foreign currency, then this is definitely real.

TWW  aaaa yes

TWW  I wish all countries would freeze his assets all over world starting their own countries first

Sheila  working from the ground up

TWW  sheila George Soros,[a] Hon FBA (born Schwartz György, August 12, 1930)[1][2] is a Hungarian-American[b] billionaire investor and philanthropist.[10][11] As of May 2020, he had a net worth of $8.3 billion,[12][13] having donated more than $32 billion to the Open Society Foundations.[14]

xyz  BUMMED OUT Melania Trump ‘refused to move to White House until the Obamas’ toilet had been ripped out & a new one installed’ https://www.the-sun.com/news/1379443/melania-trump-refused-white-house-move-obama-toilet/

sheila  I just remember the story I read about him breaking the Bank of London on currency trade (believe it was 1980's).

TWW  he done that through out the world

sheila  he has been busy

TWW  he is not allowed to return to his birth country of Hungry

8/07/20 Dinar Perspective Roundtable Pre-Recorded Call With Pat & Bobby  1 hr 21 mins LINK

8/26/20 Dinar Perspective Roundtable Pre-Recorded Call   1 hr 19 mins  LINK

Zig  GM As I posted yesterday, I have provided the materials and now it is up to the current and future members to do the sculpting  This Chat Room is 3 weeks old today, still too early to predict how it will go...but it is not up to me, it is up to you as I have no control over who participates here, etc....so if you like a chat with NO MODS and NO BANNING please participate....

Zig  I realize that it is very early in this "experiment" but I am already seeing things that I don't like...quite a few people have posted once or twice and then have disappeared...quite a few people have registered but have not posted....the chat room is showing early signs of becoming a small group chatting daily...I hate that...

If this trend continues into late October I probably will close the chat...and then open it again if something should occur in a positive way with the Dinar...I don't need to do this...wanted to try things MY WAY....Again, it is still early but trends are starting that I don't like....Just wanted to tell you this as you folks out there have the power to keep this going....Okay....later....Stay Safe!!!!....   :)

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