Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Sunday 8-16-20

Zig  :Thanks Dinar Recaps...Appreciate it https://dinarrecaps.com/our-blog

Xyz   Turkey Hit By Bank Runs, Currency Panic As Locals Sell Their Cars And Houses To Buy Gold While Lira Implodes https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/turkey-hit-bank-runs-currency-panic-locals-sell-their-cars-and-houses-buy-gold-while-lira

xyz   Another QaNon .... Conspiracy theorists believe a type of shadow government exists and is working to undermine President Donald Trump and his agenda. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/conservative-journalist-arrested-jailed-ahead-shadowgate-documentary-release

xyz   Al-Kazemi meets with a Kurdish delegation in Baghdad to negotiate the outstanding issues

https://www.almaalomah.com/2020/08/16/490154/

The information / Baghdad ..Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi is scheduled to meet, today, Sunday, a delegation from the Kurdistan region that will arrive in the capital, Baghdad, to negotiate setting the financial ceiling for the region, with the latter’s commitment to pay the resulting oil dues and border crossings to the central government.

A member of the Parliamentary Finance Committee for the Kurdistan Alliance, Jamal Cougar, said in a statement to / information /, that “after a contact took place between Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi and Masrour Barzani yesterday, an official delegation from the Kurdistan Regional Government will arrive today in Baghdad to meet Al-Kazemi.”

Cougar added, "The delegation will negotiate with the central government to determine the financial ceiling that is required to be paid by the central government to the region in exchange for the final commitment to pay the resulting oil dues and border crossings," noting that "the meeting will resolve the dispute between the region and the center."

And Kurdish media sources have confirmed that Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi has agreed to spend 320 billion in the region for the purpose of paying the salaries of the region’s employees after a phone call took place between the latter and Masrour Barazni. End

xyz  Barzani: Baghdad will send 320 billion dinars to Erbil  -- Posted: 15.08.2020 | 22:40 GMT |Arab world news  The President of the Iraqi Kurdistan Regional Government, Masrour Barzani, announced that the federal government decided to send 320 billion Iraqi dinars to Erbil as part of the employees' salaries.

He said in a press statement: "Today, during a phone call with Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi, we discussed together the problems between Erbil and Baghdad, and we stressed that invoking the Iraqi constitution is the decisive factor in resolving all points of disagreement, with the specificity of the Kurdistan region and the interest of all Iraqis taken into consideration."

He added, "Together, during this contact, we referred to the progress made by the talks that have been going on for several months between the two delegations that negotiated with the two sides in accordance with the basis of the understanding reached earlier on the problem of salary recipients in the region."

He continued: "It was decided that Baghdad will send an amount of 320 billion Iraqi dinars as part of the salaries to the Kurdistan region as soon as possible, in line with the current financial situation of Iraq, and we stressed together the need to continue the talks with the aim of resolving all problems."  LINK

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Xyz   Minister of Planning: The government will send the draft budget law for the remainder of 2020

https://www.mawazin.net/Details.aspx?jimare=118450

Minister of Planning Khaled Battal confirmed, on Sunday, that the government will send the draft budget law for the remainder of 2020.

"The government will send the draft budget law for the remainder of 2020, " Battal said in a brief statement that Mawazine News received a copy of. .

Battal added, "The government is obligated to appoint all cadres to whom the medical graduation law applies, and there is no effort in that."

The Secretary-General of the Council of Ministers, Hamid Al-Ghazzi, revealed earlier that there is a tendency to approve the current year’s budget.

xyz   An Iraqi delegation leaves for America in preparation for Al-Kazemi's visit

https://www.mawazin.net/Details.aspx?jimare=118472

MP Ikhlas Al-Dulaimi announced, on Sunday, that an Iraqi delegation headed by Foreign Minister Fuad Hussein will leave for America, in preparation for the visit of Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi, scheduled for the 20th of this month.

Al-Dulaimi said in a televised interview, "A delegation headed America today, headed by Foreign Minister Fuad Hussein and a large number of financial and economic advisers and experts, to study the situation and relations between the Iraqi government and the American administration."

She added, "The Iraqi foreign minister will meet with his US counterpart, Mike Pompeo, during the visit," noting "the existence of agreements to strengthen relations between the two countries."

Showed that " the two presidents meeting of Iraqi ministers and ministers debaters them to discuss the situation between the two countries" will have to visit a positive impact , especially that there is a great chill in relations between the United States recently and Iraq because of the reflection of international problems negatively on the Iraqi arena. "

Went on the MP said:" usher Better than this visit to enhance economic and security cooperation, and we expect that the visit will have an international response in the coming days, especially with the great American interest in Iraq to restore confidence between the two countries. "Ended 29 / A 43

xyz   Barzani: The opportunity is ripe to solve the problems between Erbil and Baghdad https://www.almaalomah.com/2020/08/16/490204/

xyz   Al-Halbousi’s advisor to “the information”: The Presidency of Parliament may call for the sessions to take place next week https://www.almaalomah.com/2020/08/16/490177/

Xyz   Fox News Poll: Trump gaining on Biden nationally https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/fox-news-poll-trump-gaining-on-biden-nationally

xyz  8-16-2020 Newshound/Intel Guru Mnt Goat Article: "OUT OF 186 COUNTRIES, IRAQ IS RANKED 181 IN ECONOMIC FREEDOM" So this an excellent article because it tells us the list of factors used in determining whether investors should flock to Iraq or not. Why haven’t they been knocking down the door to get in?

So the rating for Iraq is not very good (almost on the bottom) and they will have to change this if they want to move ahead. Note “monetary freedom” is one of the factors. So this is not just rumor. Iraq will need to reinstate their currency so that investors can freely transfer it. Note other factors such as trade investment and financial freedom. Both of these Iraq is now lacking too.

Butterfly   FYI: Robert Trump died from brain bleeds caused by a fall, aggravated by blood thinners.

Sheila   ARTICLE: Al-Fateh calls for Al-Kazemi to consolidate economic, health and investment cooperation on his visit to Washington -- The independent representative of the network component of the Al-Fateh Alliance, Qusay Al-Shabaki, called on Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi to consolidate cooperation with America in the fields of health, economy, culture and science, calling for the need to distance Iraq from the politics of axes.

link https://www.ikhnews.com/index.php?page=article&id=224135

Sheila  ARTICLE: Al-Fateh calls for Al-Kazemi to consolidate economic, health and investment cooperation on his visit to Washington  link https://www.ikhnews.com/index.php?page=article&id=224135

The independent representative of the network component of the Al-Fateh Alliance, Qusay Al-Shabaki, called on Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi to consolidate cooperation with America in the fields of health, economy, culture and science, calling for the need to distance Iraq from the politics of axes.

Al-Shabaki told Al-Ikhbariya, “Al-Kazemi’s visit to Washington should be an opportunity to increase economic, cultural, scientific and health cooperation, especially with the Corona crisis.”

He added, "Al-Kazemi is required to implement his government approach through developing the health, service and security sectors and investment, and to consolidate this in his visit to Washington to put forward several files, most notably the security cooperation between the two countries within understandable and clear frameworks."

Al-Shabaki indicated that "Iraq cannot be part of an axis at the expense of hostility or loyalty to another axis, as it is the only loser from the politics of the axes in the Middle East."

Dave   yepp Iraq could be doing so much better......15 yrs still waiting

Sheila   ARTICLE: Parliamentary Finance reassures employees: salaries will be delayed only "a few days"   link https://al-iraqinews.com/archives/54285

The Parliamentary Finance Committee announced today, Sunday, that the salaries of employees will be delayed "for a few days" only because of "technical" issues.

A statement by a member of the committee, MP Ahmad Hama Rashid, reported by the correspondent of the Iraqi Media News Agency, stated that "salaries may be delayed, but the government cannot cut them because it is the citizen's sustenance," stressing that "the government is obligated to pay it, whether by borrowing or withdrawing from Reserve cash or anything else. ”

Rashid explained that "the central bank promised to pay salaries for the coming months," explaining that "the government needs 6 billion dollars a month to cover its expenses, of which more than 3 billion are paid in salaries and therefore there is a deficit of about two billion dollars."

Rashid pointed out that "it is possible that the salaries for the current month of August will be delayed for a few days because the state does not have revenues in the federal treasury, because the oil revenues and other other revenues do not arrive in a timely manner that leads to their delay," stressing that "the delay is due to technical issues.

Sheila   ARTICLE: Today .. Al-Kazemi meets with a Kurdish delegation in Baghdad to negotiate the outstanding issues   link https://www.almaalomah.com/2020/08/16/490154/

Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi is scheduled to meet today, Sunday, a delegation from the Kurdistan region that will arrive in the capital, Baghdad, to negotiate the determination of the financial ceiling for the region, with the latter’s commitment to pay the resulting oil dues and border crossings to the central government.

Jamal Cougar, a member of the Parliamentary Finance Committee for the Kurdistan Alliance, said in a statement to / information /, that “after a call between Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi and Masrour Barzani yesterday, an official delegation from the Kurdistan Regional Government will arrive today in Baghdad to meet Al-Kazemi.”

Cougar added, "The delegation will negotiate with the central government to determine the financial ceiling to be paid by the central government to the region in exchange for the final obligation to pay the resulting oil dues and border crossings," noting that "the meeting will resolve the dispute between the region and the center."

And Kurdish media sources have confirmed that Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi has agreed to spend 320 billion for the region for the purpose of paying the salaries of the region’s employees after a telephone call took place between the latter and Masrour Barazni

Dave   how can Iraq do trade with the rest of the World when still under ch7 sanctions?   IMF wont allow that?

Xyz   White House chief of staff pledges USPS won't dismantle sorting machines between now and Election Day https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/16/politics/mark-meadows-usps-sorting-machines-election-day-cnntv/index.html?

Sheila   America is a Republic -- not a Democracy. Please show anywhere in the Constitution where democracy is written in the text.

xyz   Thanks for civics lesson however ...   Is the United States a democracy or a republic?

The United States is both a democracy and a republic. Democracies and republics are both forms of government in which supreme power resides in the citizens. The word republic refers specifically to a government in which those citizens elect representatives who govern according to the law.

The word democracy can refer to this same kind of representational government, or it can refer instead to what is also called a direct democracy, in which the citizens themselves participate in the act of governing directly. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/democracy

Sheila   If the founding fathers had wanted to state "democracy" they would have done so. Then are you a US Citizen or an American? Words matter. When written, Words are Contracts.

Quote"Most people often mistakenly refer to our nation as the greatest democracy on earth. They are mistaken because we are not an absolute democracy; we are a constitutional republic." Posted at 7:57 am on September 16, 2011 by Daniel Horowitz

xyz   sheila absolutely words do matter ... Please show anywhere in the Constitution where ALASKA is written in the text.

Sheila   United States of America

John Frank has stated Real Intel: our DELAY - Iraq’  Delay: iraq’s government must have stability Kurdistan/ Baghdad agreement must be reached before the rate can change. Yesterday’s news stated Baghdad is now sending salary money to Kurdistan. Kurdistan / Baghdad are on track to reach an agreement in September, which is near the beginning of the middle of their fiscal year. These are very important facts for the rate change.

Dave   xyz kurds/baghdad,,,,,,done done done fer yrsv and yrs and yrs    in the comming session.....

Dave   John Frank has stated t art 140 hcl done?

John Frank has stated   HCL / 140 are approved. The constitution needs to be amended and have both items added for implementation. Both are post RI reforms waiting on the RI for implementation.

Dave   xyz yeah just requires final reading fer yrs now

John Frank has stated  HCL / 140 are approved. The constitution needs to be amended and have both items added for implementation. Both are post RI reforms waiting on the RI for implementation.

Dave   John Frank has stated t approved not passed.....RI .....????

Xyz   Dave which means it's not done ...

Dave   bingo.....

John Frank has stated   Dave there’s nothing to be passed. You amend then constitution and add both items to it!

John Frank has stated   RI = re-in statement

Dave  John Frank has stated t thats why they are still having disputes.....

John Frank has stated   Rate Change

Dave   John Frank has stated t how is that tied together?

John Frank has stated    wrong.... the disputes are over oil / budget money / border taxes between Kurdistan/ Baghdad. Not 140 / HCL individually.

Dave   according to whom?  who owns that oil from the disputed territories?]

John Frank has stated    Kurdistan has the Oil / Baghdad controls the Money.

Dave   who owns the oil from the disputed territories?   lots of oil there

John Frank has stated   Not necessarily disputed areas. It’s sharing the money from Kurdistan Oil Ports & borders. How much do they get to keep and how much does Baghdad take. Kurdistan makes the money.

Dave   Not necessarily disputed areas.??????

Spectra   Much of this is all about the silk road.....  Th brics ..The Brics are trying to form a 1 World Nation.

Dave    Strange i read Kurds and Baghdad still at odds fer months still over the same stuff

Sheila   The Art of War by Sun Tzu

Dave   want him to teach or show me......?   confused?

Sheila   xyz Misdirection or Misinformation - Tactics as described in "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu

Spectra   Sheila   https://youtu.be/Ip5_bkKRP9E

Spectra   The unification of the ARAB countries into the Silk road is playing a major part...  The pipeline

Sheila   Spectra Kushner is 13th warrior.

Spectra   sheila ?????

Dave   Silk road leads us to those Chinese elders.......connect the dots

Spectra   warrior??? on wich side??

Sheila   Spectra USA's side... so goes America, so goes the World.

Spectra   sheila True America plays The most important part...The Babolyn Empire being reestablished again...

Dave   empires rise and empires fall so i have told

Sheila   agree

Spectra   Watch IRAQ join up with them...  They will Join The Brics  The bRics will establish one world currency...

Dave  Brazil/India really rich?????   thought those folks in India were making a buck/hr

Spectra   Dave When you consider China,Russia,Iran Brazil and many more they will be a force..Now The Arabic nations as well..   Israel has joined them too ...

Dave   ...and force Iraq to RV......when they can not sustain it?

Spectra  Sounds to me like they are building A Kingdom of the Beast...

Spectra   Government of Iraq @IraqiGovt  ·Aug 13 Commander-in-Chief PM@MAKadhimi chairs a meeting of the National Security Council to discuss security developments in Iraq. The Council strongly condemned Turkey’s aggression against Iraqi territories and the targeting of Iraqi military officers.

16 Aug 20, 12:06 PM Spectra  Ahriman we sneak into slumbering humanity.   Dullwitted only apply...

Spectra  Knowledge of the spirit and soul is a necessity for survival. So many do not give the spirit or soul intrinsic value. The is disparaging .   They take from mainstream nature and knowledge what they think is of value.

Spectra   They engage only in the material.Material substance is not good if it is all that you devour...

Spectra  HandshakeOCHA’s new Head of Office and the Minister of Migration and Displacement had a productive meeting last week. They discussed the importance of coordinating humanitarian assistance and the need to assist 1.4 million displaced Iraqis to find solutions to their displacement.

Spectra  ((((((((1.4 million displaced ......Emphasis ...))))))))) :Roll eyes:   :Sad:  What did you all say you think is comming to you again?   Pathetic....

Dave   Zig could it possibly mean that there aint millions of us in Dinarland....?  its going to be a race to the bank.........

Zig  Dave : LOL...who knows...I have heard all kinds of numbers, from thousands to millions....my guess is that less than 200,000 have Dinar.....

Sheila  Who Moved My Cheese?

Dave  Zig agree.....

John Frank has stated   Zig what’s sad is I’ve started some good informative group discussions and tried to include you. You SEEM to not even CARE TO JOIN. What kind of message does that bring to the GROUP. Suggests you don’t really care to much.

Zig   John Frank has stated: Just observing at this time..

John Frank has stated    So Zig what’s your point doing this without involvement!

Zig   Hopefully I can learn from smart folks like Dave....lol....

John Frank has stated   Point made thanks Zig!

Zig   Look I believed in Kaperoni's float scenario....now I hear of a GCR....asset-backed is coming....on and on with different views....and people like Sam saying it is all a scam....I consider everything but have reached no conclusions....I have no idea but will hold onto my Dinar and see what happens.....

Spectra  Zig The dinar.I Think along the same lines as you as far as what it will do..I put no credence in any forum or Guru ect . The whole thing may never come.I have already accepted this...

Spectra   Then if it does that will be Good as well.I won't loose sleep or live in a bubble of deniel ...

Zig   John Frank has stated: Well people can bring whatever they wish...I have no control over that....no control over what anyone wants to discuss.... what people think....what they believe is going to occur.....PTR people think the GCR is close....they have an attorney named Abe on every call who claims to know everything.....LOL....it's funny....people follow and believe different people like sheep.....

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Spectra  Alright im off to work see ya' later ..Have fun be nice to each other ..Life is short...

Spectra   https://youtu.be/oLuJ6ZghBqs There's the link to the New News Network....on u tube

Spectra  Chicago Shuts Down Its Business District, Raises Bridges, Launches Social Media Surveillance

16 Aug 20, 02:19 PM Spectra   https://youtu.be/O0kXAe06E30

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TWW  Sheila   how long hav been in this??

Sheila   10 plus years

TWW   wow

Sheila   Know people that bought dinar in 2003...2005. Did not hear about this speculation until December 2009. Bought some couple months later.

TWW   glad u did

Sheila  TWW How long have you been in this speculation?

Sheila   very glad

Sheila   Devalued and revalued currency is splattered throughout history.

TWW   Since the 70" buying/trading/selling currencies, gold, silver & diamonds    Not blood diamonds

Sheila   TWW Was offered internship to be Stock Broker in 1983. Was working 60-80 hours a week. Did not pursue. Wish I had. Oh well, shoulda, coulda, woulda.

Sheila   TWW That thought never entered my mind.

TWW   I was recruted (sp) for the stock market but, no way

John Frank has stated    Question every Guru claiming to be smart has always said we’re just waiting for a date and rate. It these individuals were intelligent they would tell you what we’re WAITING FOR / ON. NONE have ever done that, be careful what you choose to RECEIVE!

Sheila   All TWW would say was "just hang on".

John Frank has stated     RATE WILL NOT CHANGE UNTIL KURDISTAN/ BAGHDAD REACH / SIGN AN AGREEMENT IN SEPTEMBER. ALLOWING THEM TO RI IN LATE SEPTEMBER.

Sheila   International contracts take about 30 days to mature/cure. So that sounds about right. Mid to late September and before October 1st.

TWW   John Frank has stated t Only Zig has direct aces to my private contact info, I keep it this way

John Frank has stated    TWW HAVE A PRIVATE GROUP WITH THOUSANDS OF FOLLOWERS WAS SIMPLY GOING TO ASK IF YOU WANT TO SHARE DETAILS PRIVATELY. SHEILA CAN VOUCH FOR ME.

TWW   cant...at this point

sheila   Frankly, don't want that responsibility of knowing any more than I do now. "just hang on" was enough said for me.

John Frank has stated     Use facts to walk us to the finish line not secrets, yes you can

TWW   John Frank has stated I have sign 2 NDA’s in Jan 2020

John Frank has stated    Use facts / events happening not Sectets: Example: the Washington / Iraq meeting on 8/20 Might be a 30 day precursor to the rate change happening on September 20th!!!

John Frank has stated    Tww The rate can only change out of one day of the week for Iraq what day is that?

TWW   Kuwait did in 1991

Sheila   You would know about that. lololol

TWW   sheila r u sure???

Sheila   Thought you were the Kuwait story.

Tebow   signed NDAs for what? LOL

John Frank has stated     TWW on why day of the week will the rate change, only 1 Day allowed!

Sheila   badgering will get you nowhere

TWW   sorry, I waz blocked out   I had to sign a summary report

Sheila    very cool

John Frank has stated    Please share bro

TWW   Tebow I remember u on the chat room on IQD

Sheila   he already did. "just hang on" "I had to sign a summary report"

TWW   John Frank has stated t what Frank

John Frank has stated    TWW on why day of the week will the rate change, only 1 Day allowed!

TWW   WHo knows Frank

John Frank has stated    Let’s talk privately but I’m asking you what day of the week that is.

John Frank has stated    Don’t worry about me bro I’m asking you what day the week that is.

TWW   Dude, I have not time for ur discussion, Im exhausted from flying across America, ok?

Sheila   we thank you very much. please go take care of yourself. hope to see you later.

John Frank has stated     Please share the DAY

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Tebow   sheila THere are no NDA for withholding information. IF some one tells you otherwise they are a fraud.

LeLe   sheila what's a summary report?

Sheila   Tebow You're kidding me. "no NDA for withholding information" Where did you learn about contracts requiring privacy? Have you not ever heard about "sealed" settlement cases? Pre-IPO's sometimes require NDA contracts... there are other instances for NDA when dealing with contracts.

Sheila  LeLe Sometimes a "summary report" is created as a section of or a supplement to a contract to provide the highlights or primary points without having to read the entire contract. Something like a brief to a court case.

Sheila   @Tebow Another instance for NDA is platform trading. Big time NDA requirements for that one.

Spectra   What about NDA? wHAT THE POINT HERE?

Sheila   scroll back to Tebow's post

Spectra   is someone telling you they cannot tell you something in regards to the dinar.Because of a NDA?

Tebow   sheila talking Iraqi RV info.

Spectra   i says anyone who tells you they cannot tell you about the RV because of a NDA is ful of caca

Sheila   Tebow You did not say anything about Iraqi RV info. Please reread your chat post.

Spectra   There's a few in here posing as VIP who are also full of caca

Xyz   Serious Questions on the Appreciation of Iraqi Dinar

https://www.iraq-businessnews.com/2020/02/01/serious-questions-on-the-appreciation-of-iraqi-dinar/

Firstly, that the “independence” of the CBI was compromised in negotiating and signing a ‘Stand-By Agreement’ with the IMF in late 2005.

Secondly, by following the IMF programme in Iraq, the CBI’s administration focused its attention on limited instruments of monetary policy as dictated by the IMF, and much less on contributing to national economic growth and leveraging badly needed major structural changes in the economy.

Xyz  Back in February……    @Kaperoni does that document state float? Don't be shy

Kaperoni  “14. The de facto fixed exchange rate has served Iraq well. The authorities agreed that a stable nominal exchange rate provides a valuable anchor for inflation expectations in an uncertain environment, and intend to continue implementing this policy for the foreseeable future.

In the medium term, staff encouraged the authorities to consider creating the conditions which would make possible a move to a more flexible exchange rate policy. Such flexibility could allow a predictable and gradual appreciation of the nominal exchange rate, triggered by strong oil revenues and the Balassa-Samuelson effect, to accommodate a possible real exchange rate appreciation while keeping domestic inflation low.”

Kaperoni   Direct from the IMF> staff encouraged the authorities to consider creating the conditions which would make possible a move to a more flexible exchange rate policy.

Such flexibility could allow a predictable and gradual appreciation of the nominal exchange rate triggered by strong oil revenues and the Balassa-Samuelson effect, Doesnt say RV  lol

Xyz   @Kaperoni your favorite cited IMF is in the document

Kaperoni   IMF runs the banking system, Think they know

Sheila   Central Banking systems runs the banking system. BIS... not IMF.

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