IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Evening 3-3-20
IQD CALLS Chat Tuesday Evening 3-3-20
Dave As of March 2, 2020, 27 cases of COVID-19 have been confirmed in Canada.
Dave wonder how many confirmed thousands of cases of the regular influenza virus
Dave hand sanitizer 4 bucks now 30 if you can find it went to Costco....near empty of stock
Dave Costco sold out of TP.....could make Dinar inviting postponing protests due to covid now?
Baxter DAVE.... I have a lot of Patience.. but after 15 years... its plum gone
Dave hold on.....Ramadam starts NEXT month.......
Dave Baxter Maliki and buddies not dumb.......how many yrs keeping their necks from that noose?
Baxter well... im goin to the airport...think I will throw a million dinar out the window... I doubt if anyone will even pick it up Be back later
Dave gosh was it ten yrs ago when we chatted about not seeing anything until Maliki was in CHAINS
chattels Tuesday, March 3, 2020 Allawi Gives Up Forming Govt As Iraqi Elite Fail Again
http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2020/03/allawi-gives-up-forming-govt-as-iraqi.html
chattels The ruling parties are still divided about how to move forward leaving the government in continued crisis.
chattels “ the ruling class is set in its ways. They run an oil rich state which makes them independent of the public because they don’t rely upon them for taxes despite the democratic system. Now they are being called on to be accountable, which they have never been. In the face of massive protests they simply wanted to replace one figurehead premier with another while maintaining all of their power and privilege. The result is that Baghdad finds itself in political limbo unwilling to change in the face of a popular revolt."
chattels The House of Representatives reveals a new list of candidates for the presidency of the interim government Tuesday 03, March 2020 " Mustafa Al-Kazemi, the head of the intelligence service, who seemed to be the favorite and closest to the position, as well as re-offering the candidacy of Asaad Al-Aidani, who had previously apologized to the president. Muhammad Allawi, Qusay al-Suhail, Muhammad al-Sudani and Adnan al-Zarfi .. "
chattels Blackshart: The 15-day period to nominate an alternative to Mohammed Allawi is not sufficient to reach a political agreement 03, March 2020 https://ninanews.com/Website/News/Details?key=815528
chattels The United Nations Special Representative in Iraq, Hennes-Blackshart, warned on Tuesday that efforts to choose an alternative for former Prime Minister-designate Muhammad Tawfiq Allawi were risky, while she considered that the 15-day deadline set by the constitution for the President of the Republic was not sufficient.
chattels "The rule of law and the chances of a solution in Iraq are getting more and more narrow."
Dave Good news is sure getting scarce in Iraq
Zig Dave : Do you ever see the day when you will quit on this...lose interest?
Dave chattels thanx for being so tenacious
Dave Zig once their potential wealth disappears
Dave losing interest......YES
Dave what have they accomplished other than traffic laws
Kaperoni Well, well, well. the clowns are back
Zig Kaperoni : Have time to chat with Deano??
Dave Mr Floatie....
Kaperoni zig depends
Kaperoni Dave that IS how monetary policy works. Take it or leave it
Zig PLEASE ALLOW KAP AND DEANO TO CHAT UNINTERRUPTED....Thank You
Deano Ready
Kaperoni i am not going to dig for any research
Deano I'm not going to ask you
Kaperoni Ok , what's up?
Deano But I will start with this. @Kap why is it that when you bring in your intel/information, the same as other guru's do, they're wrong and you're always right?
Kaperoni Do you want to know if it is going to RV in the next 30 days? lol no it wont
Kaperoni Deano Because I am. I study how monetary policy works. Not some mythical BS that gurus make up
Deano I didn't ask you that. But before I go any further I will respect you so I ask that you respect me
Kaperoni Deano you are smart to see the difference correct?
Kaperoni I am respecting you But ask your question
Kaperoni I assure you, nothing from Frank or Delta or Jeff or Tony or Mtn Goat or any other gurus is true
Deano @Kap. What makes you think that you're the only one? I've read info you've brought here that truthfully, I heard it from Frank 26 first. But yet you bash him. Why is that?
Kaperoni Frank and Delta used to sit on DA years ago for intel. lol that is how I know.
Deano @Kap. Aren't you doing the same thing he's doing? Without getting paid for some site?
Kaperoni Deano I already told you. No. I research and present facts on monetary policy. Nothing I talk about is 'intel' or 'contacts' or stories
Deano @Kap do you have contacts in the CBI?
Kaperoni nobody does all made up crap
Deano @Kap do you have contacts in the IMF?
Kaperoni Anyone can write the IMF. They will answer. But again..the IMF documents everything for us to read in English Nobody has any contacts..especially these gurus. Wake up
Deano @Kap.No I'm not fooled by anyone. But the same can be said about you. See I take in intel/information and what doesn't taste good, I spit out.
Kaperoni Deano Believe what you want. But what I do is research and present written facts
Deano @Kap so what you're saying is everyone is wrong and you're the only one that's right?
Kaperoni The IMF was very clear, they will float the dinar at the right time. This is in writing. Who presented that? I did. Not the gurus.
Kaperoni If you never read another thing. Or listen to another comment. Read the IMF below...It is what will happen. It is how monetary policy works.
Kaperoni “14. The de facto fixed exchange rate has served Iraq well. The authorities agreed that a stable nominal exchange rate provides a valuable anchor for inflation expectations in an uncertain environment, and intend to continue implementing this policy for the foreseeable future.
In the medium term, staff encouraged the authorities to consider creating the conditions which would make possible a move to a more flexible exchange rate policy. Such flexibility could allow a predictable and gradual appreciation of the nominal exchange rate, triggered by strong oil revenues and the Balassa-Samuelson effect, to accommodate a possible real exchange rate appreciation while keeping domestic inflation low.”
Deano Bacically you're just as much as a guru as others that re out there. You see when Frank makes a mistake he admits it. I didn't ask about a float either. See I remember a time you presented a post, dolled it all up to make it look good. Thing is remembered that post, found it and presented the rest of it. If you're going to post articles, why not the whole article?
Kaperoni staff encouraged the authorities to consider creating the conditions which would make possible a move to a more flexible exchange rate policy.
Kaperoni Such flexibility could allow a predictable and gradual appreciation of the nominal exchange rate, triggered by strong oil revenues and the Balassa-Samuelson effect,
Kaperoni Deano not a guru but a fact finder you go study. I am - don't have time to convince you to stop listening to loser con men have a good day
Deano @Kap I'm not asking you about monetary policy or anything else. But what you've done is prove a point. You're trying to chisel what you bring into my head. You may disagree with that, but I seen you try to do this to many people.
Deano @Kap one more question. I remember you saying a while back that after reading what was being put out there, you decided that you were going to be everyone's savior. Who ask you to be their savior???
Zig Okay Peeps....Thanks for letting Deano and Kaperoni chat uninterrupted.....Deano requested that.....
Doug_W CHAT room now OPEN again THANKS all
Deano You also talk about no overnight rv/ri. You still have never answered the question. What makes you think they have not been working on this for a few years to do overnight?
Dave https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=translate+no+in+40+languages&&view=detail&mid=CA2EC2F49C1082093679CA2EC2F49C1082093679&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dtranslate%2Bno%2Bin%2B40%2Blanguages%26FORM%3DHDRSC3
Wilder Zig throw in the towel.
Deano Much appreciated everyone Guess I'll have to wait for him to show back up to have those few little questions answered. Whether he or anyone else agrees. I believe I proved my point.
Dave Ask him wheelbarrows or wallets for me please
crazy crypto didnt kap recently state their will be NO overnight RV and it wil most likely take years to make any money off the dinar? so whats his incentive to stick around? it cant be to keep teling dinarland to study imf files right?
Kaperoni Deano they could never overnight RV
Deano Why do you say never???
Kaperoni not possible even if they wanted to and were working on it for years. not how things work
crazy crypto never say never?
Dave Kaperoni but load those ATMs up with those LDs .lol
Kaperoni go become a student of your investment, study and learn how banking works. How monetary policy works
Deano You keep saying never. Why are you so sure of that?
Kaperoni Deano because it is NOT how it works There will never be a RV
Kaperoni to much dinar in circulation for 1
Deano Maybe not. But who's to say they won't reinstate?
Dave Deano just forget everything CBI has stated
Kaperoni it would through the entire financial system in Iraq into caos it would bankrupt Iraq of everthing
Deano So who's to say they're not working on that. Hence why I asked if you had inside contacts.
Kaperoni Dave the CBI has never said they would RV lol
Dave 1000 fils for that coke sounds inflationary
Kaperoni Deano They are working on two ways...A LOP and a float
Deano But wasn't it the CBI that stated that they would never float?
Deano Or lop?
Kaperoni I have a question...How many of you will go find these gurus when they LOP?
crazy crypto whats the point kap? we are all adults
Deano @Kap are we going to come find you when they don't
Dave crazy crypto Kaps point not CBIs
Kaperoni Deano We know they would like to LOP because they said they need parliament permission. if they were even thinking RV the CBI can do that without parliament
Kaperoni Deano I am not wrong
Deano So again. I agree with you on no overnight rv/ri. But again who'sto say they have not been working on this.
Kaperoni in excess of 42 trillion is not possible to RV. That is over 2 times the entire worlds money supply and over 2 times Iraq's entire net worth of all minerals
Dave Deano IQDTEAM may have what CBI calls the Delete 3 zeros project
crazy crypto So Kap a question you tend to dodgge alot is what is your plan? wait for a float?
Kaperoni What they have been working on and this is fact and provable is a market economy/private sector. If they launch it and it succeeds it will give them an opportunity to gradually raise the value.
Deano @Kap their you go again. I'm not wrong everyone else is. But you even said it yourself. CBI can rv/ri without parliament.
Kaperoni crazy crypto what does my plan have to do with anything.
Deano So if they want investor to come in, why would they on a program rate?
crazy crypto so you are researching a failing investment?
Kaperoni Deano no such thing as a program rate. that is guru bs the rate is the rate.
crazy crypto if not to make anythng off it whats the point lol
Dave Kap mentions 16 trillion in assets 150 billion in oil reserves.......that just went up almost 4 times in recent weeks
Kaperoni Deano You have been mislead and lied to for so long you dont even know what is fact or fiction
Dave barells
Kaperoni Dave 16 trillion is total assets in the ground for Iraq. that did not change
Kaperoni Deano Investors come into Iraq with dollars not dinar
Dave Kaperoni posted an article numerous times from Saleh,,,,,,,guess you missed it
Deano @Kap.I do know this. I for one, and I will speak only for myself. Never asked you to be my savior as you so put it a while ago. You claim all of your theories are correct when CBI has contradicted you. And if this currency is such a dead body in the water, why do you waste your time?
Dave Deano Read from CBI or Kap .......you will figure it out
Kaperoni Deano because I have a passion to research and find the truth and facts. Because I own dinar
Deano @Dave I have read articles from the CBI that contradict what he says.
Dave Deano nO WAy?????
Kaperoni The CBI wants to LOP. They said so. They though are told no and are being guided to create a market economy
Dave SEE
crazy crypto kap we gonna be millinaires in 10 years?
Deano @Kap another point that I will prove is this. You like to call people names when they don't agree with you.Do you have a guilty conscious???
Kaperoni crazy crypto The dinar could rise in value. But it would take a significant amount of success to make to happen passing laws, creating the right environment for global investors to come and rebuild, create a private sector. Only then can the CBI gradually raise the value
Kaperoni Deano I call people names because I have little restraint left after over 10 years of research convincing people ***
Deano @Kap. I agree with you on some things. But on a lot others you are wrong.
Deano @Kap so it's these guru that are crooks that makes you call people names? Why is it their fault.
Wilder I THINK THEY NEED A GOV'T. untill then we wait.
Kaperoni Deano I have no idea how long you have own dinar. But clearly you are a dreamer and believe this BS. You should quickly spend your time reading facts and learn the truth. There is no RV nor will there ever be an overnight event. All BS
Deano @Kap and you're doing the same thing. Again the only difference is you're not selling dinar. You're not doing videos and you're not running a site charging people. Instead you're trying to force your beliefs onto people and when they don't agree that's when the name calling starts.
Kaperoni The dinar may rise if the conditions are created. but at this point I see at least a few more years
Kaperoni Deano I am presenting facts truth You dont like to hear truth or facts
Kaperoni fact contacts fake stories of friend and contacts and such lol
Wilder This discussion is like a waterlogged float. Tine to pitch it
Deano @Kap.No I'm a realist. I'm not buying in on a lot of the BS you try to force down people's throat. Which makes you a pretty good story teller yourself. I read facts. And some of those facts don't fall in line with the BS you present.
Kaperoni I dont need to pitch anything. If they build a market economy, they cannot stay pegged
Kaperoni Deano that your choice
Kaperoni Deano not telling any stories. obviously you dont study the dinar or research.
Dave Deano figured that out 10yrs ago
Deano @Kap that's right my choice on who and what I listen to. But I guess it's foolish to listen to the CBI as well right.
Kaperoni go read any transitional document for emerging markets
Kaperoni I will give you a few links to get started
Kaperoni https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2004/wp04188.pdf
Deano @Kap yes I can do that. And chances I'll find something that contradicts what you're saying and you'll swear up and down that you're right.
Kaperoni https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/op/256/op256.pdf
Kaperoni https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2004/wp04126.pdf
Kaperoni https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2004/wp04126.pdf
Kaperoni https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/issues/issues38/ei38.pdf
Kaperoni https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/op/193/chap3.pdf
Dave Kaperoni https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=translate+no+in+40+languages&FORM=HDRSC3
Kaperoni that is enough to show you how countries transition
Dave https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=translate+no+in+40+languages&FORM=HDRSC3
Dave thats what CBI states about float https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=translate+no+in+40+languages&FORM=HDRSC3
Deano @Kap you make it sound like you're the only one here that does any research. If we don't agree with you, then we're fools, idiots or anything else you like to call people.
Kaperoni If you take time and read those you will quickly learn that Frank26 and his flunkies are all liars and nothing they say is factual
Kaperoni Deano go read. come back in two weeks and we will talk monetary policy
Dave chattels Gosh I still figure they are stioll in Ch7 sanctions...lol
chattels Kap, IMO, may be right, but I cannot forget the look on Shabbibi's face at the press conference in Washington years ago when he was asked about the timing of an increase in the value of the dinar. He said that he did not know and if he did that he could not say.
Rand I respect all opinions here, but it still boils down to our own.
Dave Rand Cbi never gave date or rate
Dave did give us the delete 3 zero project
Deano I don't mind someone expressing their opinions. It's when they don't give their opinions and try to cram their information down people's throats and say that everyone else is wrong. That's what I have a problem with.
chattels Question: Revaluation
With respect to the ongoing and need of stability in Iraq and its exchange rate, we did not follow that there is a direct need for a potential revaluation of the currency to its due for domestic and foreign investment in Iraq, and in regard to that, how far you believe we are from a potential revaluation of the Iraqi currency.
chattels Shabibi answer:
Well thank you very much for this question and the … ahmmm ……. even if I know the answer I cannot tell you .. (laughter) the thing is … you cannot have an economist saying without….the answer depends, so the question here is if revaluation is really going to depend on what extent we are going to continue controlling the inflation.. as you know, if you go to the Central Bank website … the first job is maintaining price stability .
chattels https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=ol8wve53-ME&feature=emb_title
Dave good answer?
Rand We can debate this until ** freezes over, but what does it accomplish. We will believe what we want.
Dave chattels read that art from Saleh regarding the missing persons file and sanctions from last week
Deano Yeah but Kap would disagree
Rand LeLe Your Welcome. As they say, opionion are like as90pjles, everyone has one. We can only agree or disagree as our conscience dictates, no reason to fight it.
Dave Saleh: The UN Security Council sanctions still apply to Iraq 2/26/2020
Dave Iraq still suffers from some restrictions imposed by the United Nations Security Council since the beginning of the nineties of the last century because of Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait and the economic sanctions that followed that overthrew the Iraqi industry and made Iraq unable to use and invest those fortunes.
Economic sanctions were not lifted despite the collapse of the regime The former and the entry into Iraq of a new political era, it was hoped that the country would restore its industries and production, but the scale of corruption that accompanied the political process and the restrictions and sanctions imposed by the UN Security Council kept those industries intact
Dave economy-news.net/content.php?id=19127
Dave economy-news.net/content.php?id=19127
chattels Dave http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=19127
chattels Dave There are some residual sanctions. Mostly regarding a list of companies and arms / weapons. The 5% fund for repayment of Kuwait is no longer in place and I am unaware that the residual restraints per se are disabling for Iraq economically.
chattels Dave But, what do I know ?
Dave UN security council and Iraq in the same sentence....does not ring well with me
chattels In Baghdad, prominent activist attacked with knives & clubs by group chatting this is the revenge of Muqtada Sadr. https://twitter.com/Newsofiraq/status/1234930794143109120 Translation by David M Witty https://twitter.com/DavidMWitty1/status/1234971793447780353
Dave worth finding that other art regarding missing persons file.....was a few days prior possibly?