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IQD CALLS Chat Saturday Night 10-12-19

IQD CALLS Chat Saturday Night 10-12-19

Zig   Kaperoni : Does the IMF have final say?.....or just strong "influence".....

Sergio   The only reason the CBI is following The USA was to take out Isis because they were about to lose their country

Sergio   Influence

Kaperoni   Zig I can only go by the definition of trusteeship. Because that was the word that was used in the agreement

Kaperoni   And subsequently if you look back over the last two years tremendous progress has been made within the banking system including the 2% compliance, the introduction of several banking reforms all things that Iraq seem to not be able to do on their own which were accomplished in very quick order

Zig   One definition I found of trusteeship: "supervisory control"

Sparky   Sergio ...Isis not until 2014, when Maliki created the chaos...after losing pm..

Kaperoni   Sparky keep in mind when oil prices dropped Iraq was unable to meet their budget. And they knew it. So they needed substantial loans to fill the Gap just so that they could pay their people and those loans came with conditions known as stand by agreements. The CBI also signed one at that time as well due to the reforms that were necessary with the banking system

Sergio   Backing troops out put Iraq in danger

Kaperoni    I wish I had more time but Zig had sent me a message telling me to comment so I did but I really have things to do this afternoon so I'm sorry this is an interesting topic but I can't participate anymore today have a good day everyone

Sergio   Kaperoni thanks for the chat

Sergio   As always we wait

Sparky      ...pulling out of Syria, and at the same time sending more troops to the gulf... fascinating...

Crazycrypto   one thing i learned is their is more to life than this dinar

Sparky   ... Israel , Saudi about to take out Iran... while Turks stomp Kurds...

Crazycrypto   some really need to re evaluate their time spent on something we cant control

Zig   Crazycrypto : Right.....it has become too much of an obsession for many people......including myself.....lol

Sparky   Crazycrypto ...go find another hobby if you don't like this one...

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Dave   ​Demonstrators in Baghdad and the provinces plan to hold a large demonstration on Friday, 25 October, to continue to demand legitimate rights, fight corruption and hold accountable spoilers.

Issued activists important points for these demonstrations , including

1 - raising images of Imam Hussein , peace be upon him , and the banner of Ya Hussein , being a symbol of the revolution

2. raise the Iraqi flag

3. Each graduate wearing the uniform of his profession

4. Each craftsman wearing the uniform of his craft

5. Our demands raised means media formerly the first of toppling the government

6. There are no leadership for the demonstrations is the leader of the people are the same

7- present the absent knows the date of demonstrations

8. all the provinces in their regions ... and all areas of Baghdad , heading to Tahrir Square on 25/10

9. repeat our demands , we announced the first of previously reported claim the homeland

10. is not allowed for any point of partisan or political revolution ride

11. taking caution and caution and follow Olaimat safety of tear bombs and firing live and other instructions that we've noted previously reported.

http://albaghdadiyagroup.com/news/akhbar-iraq/daoat-ltzahrt-kbert-fe-gmea-almhafzat-eom-algmat-25-tshren-alaol

Dave   thought they gave them 2weeks .........10 days ago......

Dave   they care little about partisan politics...... all about jobs and the get those corruptors........

Francis AlbertI see whee Kaperoni states that oil credits as I have posited could never happen. I see no evidence to support that conjecture. if these alleged credits are in the $30 range, as I believe they may be, Iraq can get oil out of the ground for about $11 a barrel.

Kap will say it cost more, I believe it's this low for Iraq. Kuwait and Saudi oil. Countries "claim" it cost more and then they put $50 in the budget which leaves lots of room to skim dollars, which JP Morgan/NY Mellon skims. This, IMO is where all the stolen money has come from. Plus, all countries lie and cook the books over actual costs.

Sparky   Francis Albert ... to get oil out of ground depends...$2 tops anywhere in Iraq.

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Francis Albert   And again, which Kap probably has not seen. Even IF the oil credit scenario is bogus...(and it's possible it is), I don't have secret sources. Even if it is a fantasy.

Bit picture we must understand that the big banks who own the FED, IMF, World Bank, BIS are the ones who initiate these "wars".

Thus, every bank in the FED system can monetize IQD, (create the dollars) because all currencies are debt instruments just like a mortgage or car loan) they can monetize the IQD and have up to 10 years to have Iraq take them back...and/or they can simply destroy the IQD if it serves their interest to have Iraq be stable, w/o revolution etc. and happy people who don't see the magic going on with Invaders slurping up their oil at cheap prices for years and years.

Sparky   Francis Albert ...best , cleanest oil...imo... maybe a little sulfer...still premium grade, for minimal extraction cost...

Francis Albert   I've not seen $2 cost Sparky, where do you get that?

Francis Albert   So, the last two posts, I believe, renders Kap's long time argument that with all the Dinar out there a significant rise in the value is not possible.

Sparky   Francis Albert ... read it years ago,...dudes stepping through oil fields...as always, jmo...

Francis Albert   Remember, Central Banks don't need money. They create it. Their mission is to stay in control, don't expose the light of day to what they do. They often extinguish assets (paper) at their choosing. And, again to Kap's 40 Trillion Notes out there. That may be a close number.

 But, can he tell us who has all these Dinar? No. No one can. But, I think a reasonable answer is Central Banks, which have total discretion if, when and how to use them.

Sparky   Francis Albert ...hope I can accumulate more, 4 this goes down...4x...

Francis Albert    Remember. Their goal was to get to use the U.S. to do the dirty work, in exchange for Dinar to trade for cheap oil and to establish Iraq as a solid base of operations to look after their "National Interests" in the Middle East: Oil, gas, WATER, rare earth minerals and massive amounts of fertile soil. When you have the vision of controlling the entire World...this is what they do.

Sparky   Francis Albert ... excellent post...imo...

Francis Albert   So, if they can help Iraq be International, fat and people happy, it is to their advantage to make the Dinar exchanges work financially for Iraq. In every crime the first question is who benefits?

Sparky   Francis Albert ... except slightly backwards...

Sparky   ...US took over energy producing nations...and also pulled a war, boom, bust economy here in the States...

Sparky   ...ie Middle East...and, we ain't leavin'

Sparky   Francis Albert ...key word water... Francis Albert ...think CBIs can make changes... absolutely...

biff   Big Mass protest on the 19th October New York and around the country. They want trump and pence out. ;secret;

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Sparky   biff ... wonder why ?

Sparky   biff took

Sparky...    too greedy...

Sparky   biff ...or just two buffoons... trying to get straight after wards...

Sparky   ... greatest tax relief... turned into more taxes... wtf ?...Wake up...Trump almost destroyed our country...let's not let him finish the job...

Sparky   ... unofficial end of monologue...

Sparky   ...Trump U best me for a thousand...liar, and theif mf...

Sparky   ...in cohorts with rich man, poor man author...

Sparky   ...Kyosaki...?...(sp )...

sandyf   @Dave 1000 dinar for a coke in IRAQ

Around 80 to 100 thousand for a beer in Vietnam. My flight is hand baggage only, no room for the wheelbarrrow, how on earth will I manage.

sandyf   @Dave TWWIII look at the UAE did in a few decades ......from nothing

A large part of the infrastructure in the UAE was built by the British army. I was stationed with the RAF just outside Dubai in 1970, known then as the Trucial Oman States. Before the smell of oil drifted to the USA.

sandyf   @Zig The decimal point is in the wrong place.....error.....

Unlikely - many financial institutions post to 4 significant digits and to get the most accurate information they quote in terms of 1 thousand rather than just 1. There has been many false alarms over the years due to this.

sandyf   @Zig Kaperoni : "Sergio" As some of those who know me on here, know I have spoken to the IMF and was told flat out that the currency rate of any country is in the hands of that counties central Bank"

That is true as far as it goes in respect of currency. What people fail to appreciate is the difference between the currency and the monetary unit. Any change to the monetary unit would require an act of parliament and that would be the case with a redenomination. Introducing another currency with a new ISO code, as opposed to a new series, is a change to the monetary unit.

Matt   Bitcoin BTC Price $8,374.24

Sparky   sandyf ... hello

Sparky   ... Scotsman are famous for having grit...

Sparky   ...also recognize you are a traveler, allowed to see what is not allowed in USA media coverage...

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 TWWIII   Sparky On the other side of the coin, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait can pump a barrel of oil for less than $10, on average. Iraq can produce oil for about $10.70 per barrel. https://money.cnn.com/2015/11/24/news/oil-prices-production-costs/index.html

Sparky    ...$8.70 to corruption...$2 out of ground...

TWWIII   In the United States, production costs are $36 a barrel -- still below the trading price.

Sparky   ...ppb...

Sparky   TWWIII ...all oil prices manipulated...as is stock exchange, indexes, and all else... etcetera...

TWWIII   Sparky that goes with out saying yet itz true

Sparky   TWWIII ... Just gotta get lucky, and catch the wave...imo...

TWWIII   Sparky I have hit plenty nice waves in my dayz bk home

TWWIII   b bk in a few, gotta light up

Sparky   TWWIII ... regardless of anyone s opinion,... I like my investment... albeit slow ride...

TWWIII   Sparky yes I too love my entire investments

TWWIII    I have made very good returns in the past buying/selling/trading currencies, silver, gold, coins diamonds etc. So investing in different currencies is nothing to me. Trends is something to really good to follow

TWWIII   **Nothing new to me

TWWIII   gezzz I need to proof read before posting

Sparky   TWWIII ...no, your ok...I understand...

Sparky   TWWIII ... trends...key...

TWWIII   Sparky what part of the country do u live

Sparky   TWWIII ...ne coast... Boston area...

Sparky   TWWIII ... actually, just outside of Boston.... why do you ask ?

Sparky   ... guess I scared chicken...

Sparky   ...anywho... large gas field s just discovered...lol...only half of Iraq ever surveyed...

Sparky   ...the probability of this endeavor losing is very slim... imo...

Sparky   ...at least triple my investment, even with a lop...

Sparky   ...it goes 1:1...oh my gosh...yaughts, hookers, and casinos...be broke in 3 years if I do it right...

Sparky   ... pretty good poker player...fyi...

Sparky   ... that's why I got electric LLC...

biff     Sparky lol

Sparky   biff ...roll with me, we'll have fun for a minute...

Sparky   biff ... or, be conservative, and have boring generational wealth...

Sparky   ...rather have fun now... kids can make their own way ...

Sparky   biff ... what's happening in the big easy ?

biff   ok im back

biff   a nomad

biff   south

Sparky   biff mad no... madman, ...

PM biff   no

PM biff   good man

PM biff   the saint

Sparky   biff ... think I can ever get my money out of Warka ?

Sparky   ... heard seals en route...

Sparky    ... sesquipedalian...

Sparky   ...means talk about talk... circular logic.

Sparky   ...good night now...

 

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